Charlie Kirk's Alleged Assassin Taken Into Custody, and Remembering His Incredible Life and Legacy | Ep. 1147

30:11We have kids who need to go to college. We have kids who need to live in this world. We have kids who are going to grow up and go to work in New York City buildings like we saw two months ago where a shooter showed up and started firing, taking out innocents there. we have to figure out the motivations here because it's happening too frequently. And, you know, our side, the side of reason and rationality who doesn't just say, ban guns. Okay. That wouldn't have helped Irina on the Charlotte light rail, you know, like banning the guns. It's, it's totally not possible. And there's 400 million guns in the country.

30:50Okay. So it's not possible. It's not practical and it won't work because killers will kill and they'll find a way. But our side that says it's a mental health issue, and we're right about that, we're determined to figure out what was the issue. How do we intervene earlier in that person's life and get them the hell away from the rest of us? Yes, our first instinct is more good guys with guns, and that makes perfect sense. And in mass shootings, that would help, like at a sentient school in Minneapolis with the young Christian children. Yes, we needed a good guy with a gun there. Here, that wouldn't have helped.

31:30It wouldn't have helped. You know, it's like, yes, Charlie needed more security. The security plan was very obviously catastrophically flawed. But this is a mental health situation where there needed to be an intervention for this guy earlier. And it's another problem too. And this is the one that the media doesn't want to discuss. And certainly the leftist media won't touch. And that is the radicalization of somebody who was obviously mentally unwell. He was radicalized. He got more political in recent years. That's what his family is saying. That's not Megyn Kelly. That's not Fox. His family is saying he got more political in recent years, that he was filled with hate.

32:15This is what the authority said about this shooter citing his own family, that he did not like Charlie Kirk and that he thought Charlie was spreading hate. Now, there is another piece of the investigation which has to do with his roommate. All right, so who's the roommate? Is he back at college? Again, back to my question of did he only last one semester as reported in one spot or was he in college? I have no idea. Did he have some roommate with whom he was living postgraduate? No idea. These are just the questions that I would like answered and I'm vetting them with you. So the authority said that they did interview his roommate and that that roommate showed, this is after the father, I guess, had turned him in.

33:08So they're doing their investigation now. And the roommate showed them messages on Discord. This is one of those websites where a lot of disaffected folks hang out. Not all, just some there and 4chan. Anyway, showed him messages on Discord by the suspect, Tyler Robinson. And they were messages, the way they put it was messages between Tyler and his roommate's device. So the authorities not yet willing to say it was the actual roommate or perhaps what they're saying is the messages were just incoming, you know, from Tyler to the roommate who perhaps wasn't responding. They didn't fill in those blanks.

33:49The messages were that Tyler needed to retrieve a rifle from a drop point. He needed to retrieve a rifle from a drop point and references the fact that the rifle was left in a dark towel. And that's indeed what we were told by the authorities, that they found the weapon wrapped in a dark towel in a wooded tree area right to the side of the campus.

34:23and there was a reference here. Yeah. Okay. Actually, I can't understand my own notes. My note reads mentioned engraving bullets. I am not sure as I read this, whether that was mentioned to the roommate by Tyler or whether that was just the transition into the next phase of what the investigator was revealing. So forgive me. I don't want to state the wrong thing, but then they did get into the writings on the casings that were found with the gun on an area north of campus on this grassy area where they found the gun. And then the, then they got into the specific messages on there, including, as I said, notices bulges, O-W-O, what's this?

35:04Hey, fascist catch. Oh, Bella, chow, Bella, chow, chow, chow, chow. And if you read this, you're gay. Um, that's about all we know about the suspect here. We'll learn more. Once again, what we need is a facility in which we can lock these people up, a humane facility that is part mental treatment and the majority lockup. That is 65 % jail and 35 % mental health treatment, but it must be a humane facility to which a loving parent would voluntarily send her child, or you will never get the moms of people like Robinson calling up and voluntarily submitting their child. You just won't. Or look at that mom in Minneapolis.

36:01You know, you read more about that case. There's no question this kid had mental issues, young person. I mean, this person turned evil. There's no question to me. That guy looked possessed by a demon. All those pictures that he drew of himself, looking into the mirror, seeing a demon looking back at him, target practice with Jesus in the middle of the target, you know, for the children on the ammo. This is a sick MF-er who was possessed by a demon. There's evil in this world. There just is. But that mother, according to reports, she actually might not have been on board with the trans ideology that he was professing to be succumbing to.

36:46He claimed he was going from male to female and changed his name to a female name. And reportedly she actually didn't want to go along with it. And she was more of like an observant Christian. And the reports were that the father was more the one who was indulging this. My point is simply, I'll bet you that mom knew that her son was unwell. What if there were a humane facility to which you could send your child where they would be locked up, keeping them away from the rest of society while getting some mental health treatment, but not thrown into a one flew over the cuckoo's nest situation. That's no parent would call that place and say, take my kid.

37:26I mean, some would, as I've mentioned you. I've interviewed moms of sociopaths, moms who know they're raising the next school shooter, whose other children are sleeping with knives underneath their pillows because they're so terrified of their brother or sister. It's not always boys. It can happen to girls too. And they're at their wits end. And if no matter what the facility, they would send their child to it because a lot of these parents are just fed up. Like they're afraid. They're afraid for their own lives. They're afraid for their other children's lives. They're afraid for society. And they can't, they have nothing to do with this kid.

38:04Nothing they can do with this kid. You cannot find a psychologist. Look how hard it is. Have you ever tried to get therapy? It's not that easy. It's expensive. You have to have the right insurance. You don't know whether you're finding the right person. Think if you had a kid who was exhibiting sociopathic behavior, you know, like in some of these cases, hurting animals, they killed the hamster, you know, tortured it. That's what happens. Who the hell is going to take that on? Good luck finding a therapist who's going to try to therapize or talk therapize your kid out of their sociopathy. I mean, it's just, it's impossible.

38:42So what these parents have to do is wait until their teenager or young twenties child breaks the criminal law, you know, breaks the law in a criminal manner. And then they become a subject of the criminal justice system. And herein lies the problem. Because under today's criminal justice system, like under the criminal justice system we had about 20 years ago, you would get locked up and you would get mental health treatment while in jail, by the way, but you would be locked up. But in our system today, the odds are overwhelming that you won't be. I mean, especially if you add any sort of minority status into your profile.

39:21If you're black, if you're trans, if you're a furry, I don't know what this guy was, but that'll all help you instead of raising even more alarm bells. If you say you're a furry or you're trans in today's criminal justice system, it will help you. And I mean, times 10, if you happen to be a person of color, that, that greatly will help you. That should not be an enhancing factor or something that should alarm people like the others, but it certainly shouldn't change your sentencing for the better. And so that's what's happening. These people, they don't get locked up in today's society. They get put through that revolving door and sent right back out to us.

39:59And that's what happened in the case of the Charlotte light rail murder of the Ukrainian refugee. And in this man's case, we have no idea. No idea. What if any signs he had shown of mental illness? Certainly seems like the roommate knew more than was volunteered. I mean, I've got questions that the Utah governor said there's not another suspect and they don't anticipate at this time any other arrests. OK, so the roommate got these texts and obviously knew his roommate was the shooter. I mean, is there any world in which he didn't know his roommate was the shooter? And he's texting him about retrieving the rifle on the grassy knoll that's been folded into a towel when all the news reports say that's exactly what happened outside of the church.

40:47Charlie Kirk shooting. I suppose it's possible the roommate had his head in the sand, but I'm going to guarantee you that's not the case because if you live with the shooter, you know, that's another person who knew there was something off with Robinson. That's the way this works. That's my guess. All right. But it's a good one. So why didn't he contact authorities? Maybe I'm being too hard on him. Maybe he did. They got 7 ,000 tips. Maybe his was one of them and they hadn't gotten to him yet. I don't know. I kind of feel like if I had received those text messages and they hadn't yet caught anybody and you could see that there was a national manhunt on, I think I'd be walking down to the local field office at the FBI with my phone.

41:30I think that's what I would do. Thank God nothing else happened with this suspect from the time Charlie was assassinated forward. Thank God. It's truly like what if he had killed somebody else? How would the roommate feel then? if you see something, say something. You know that saying was all over New York after 9-11. Yeah, that applies when it comes to these young would-be shooters too, like the guy who did Sandy Hook. Forget the guy who did Charlotte, North Carolina. That guy was such a fucking hot mess. Everybody saw something and did say something. And you had a woke DEI-pushed judicial system that said, let him out.

42:13He's homeless and he's an addict. Oh, and he's a black man in America. And that's what happened there. This guy, time will tell. Um, oh boy. My husband was talking to me this morning and told me that Charlie's podcast has been off the charts this week. We were both just kind of lamenting. He's number one on the charts, and he's not here to celebrate it. He can't. What an achievement. People are interested in him. They were interested in him before he died. But I will say, there's something, can I just say this is a petty moment, but it's really bothering me how Fox News is talking about Charlie like he was theirs, like he was one of theirs.

43:11Well, he wasn't. It's a lie. Just stop, okay? There were some people on Fox who I think really did like Charlie and got along with Charlie and were friends with Charlie. But Fox News, they wouldn't put Charlie on, okay? I know this from my own behind-the-scenes conversations, and I'm not going to specify from whom. But they were annoyed on Team Charlie because he was banned. They wouldn't put him on. He had been too supportive of Tucker. He was considered just other. They put him on in July to co-host Fox and Friends, which was a shock. They finally caught on to his magic and they had him on Will Kane's show, I think in August.

43:47And prior to that, that's it. Years and years ago, 10 years ago. Yeah. Okay. But it's just, all right, it's fine. You know, like I'm not saying they shouldn't mourn Charlie's loss. It's just all I want to say is he was one of ours. He was someone who was an insurgent. He was in the digital lane. He was independent, fiercely independent. And while he was a rising star, who would say yes to anyone? I mean, he was on everybody's podcast doing the shows like Surrounded, going to the Oxford Union. It's funny because a lot of these things I've also been invited to do, but I say no to most of them because I'm not as into like appearing in public as Charlie was.

44:34Um, and I really want to be present for my children who are at an age where they need their mom. Um, I mean, at every age, you need your mom, but you know what I'm saying? Um, Charlie was ubiquitous in his appearances. Uh, anyway, he, he was loving, forgiving, and would say yes to anyone. It's just, he was independent. He built his own thing. He created his own platform. He rose to power on his own, notwithstanding the absence of help from a lot of these big platforms that did their level best to demonize Charlie and Turning Point. You know, so it's just, okay, just don't want revisionist history to try to fold him in where he wasn't and try to, you know, make him out to be some sort of a platform player, which he wasn't.

45:28In any event, his show today, which was put out, starts with an empty chair and Charlie's team commemorates him. Let's watch it. So badly to do this show for all of you today. And I wanted the friends of this show and of Charlie that knew him best, the ThoughtCrime crew, to be here in the studio, to commemorate our friend, our dear brother, for this sacred and solemn moment, this occasion none of us ever dreamed we would have to do. And here we are because Charlie would want us to be here. He would be upset if we weren't here. and we of course have left his chair open and empty because nobody will ever fill it nobody could ever hope to that's andrew colovitt charlie's right hand man we've dealt with andrew countless times anytime they want to book you anytime you want to book charlie he and i would laugh many many times when i go on charlie's show and we'd be waiting you know for the hit to start.

46:47And, you know, he's, he did, he did everything for Charlie. I used to say he's like a Charlie's executive producer and his Abby all in one. Like he just did everything for Charlie. They were extremely tight and man, he had Charlie's back. I mean, the amount of pain that poor Andrew must be going through this week is hard to really understand. This is coming in now. NBC News spoke to a neighbor of the accused shooter. Her name is Kristen Schweierman, a neighbor of the suspect's family. She described him as smart, quiet, that he never caused any problems. It was a shock. I am shocked, very shocked, she said.

47:29Quote, my son texted me and said, hey, this is Tyler Robinson that lives three doors down. And I'm like, no, it can't be. It's shocking, She said, that's not who's in our neighborhood. I feel for his mom. She's a great mom and he has a great dad. Yeah, that tracks. Not surprised. It tracks based on what we saw on their social media. So what happened? Something. I can't help escaping the irony of why was Charlie killed on a college campus? because that's where he spent his time. He was there by design. James Rosen of Newsmax did a great obit on Charlie the other day. We'll drop it in here for the podcast listeners in part, and the YouTubers need to see this piece that I'm referencing.

48:26But in the obit, he ran the original graphic that Charlie came up with for Turning Point when he was literally in his parents' garage in Illinois as an 18-year-old. The beginning of this whole orbit is terrific. We should run that. America watched Charlie Kirk grow up. Fiscal conservatism is taking over the youth. Believe and we will win in November. In 2012, when President Obama cruised to re-election and liberal commentators were busy proclaiming the death of conservatism, 18-year-old Charlie Kirk, a college dropout from the Chicago suburbs, launched Turning Point USA, an engine for recruiting and mobilizing conservative youth across the country.

49:08The rise of TPUSA mirrored and fueled that of Donald Trump. And today the group claims more than 250 ,000 members across some 800 chapters. He inspired a whole new generation of young conservative leaders. This is Charlie Kirk from Turning Point USA, and let's discuss how Washington, D.C. is playing a game of loans on our young people. With his telegenic looks, rhetorical gifts, and carefully crafted appeals to young voters, Kirk himself became a multimedia phenomenon. America's number one young conservative on TV, radio, the internet, social media, podcasting. This is the kind of guy that you can see really becoming big in politics as he gets older.

49:59He just carries the personality, the charisma. I had a passion for something and I wanted to go after it. And the more I traveled, the more I realized there was this huge need for a youth organization in the country that embraced freedom and liberty. Kirk could throw sharp punches, as when he told a Georgia audience last year, the Democrats stand for everything God hates. But mostly he used facts and the Socratic method to disarm the young liberal students who flocked to his events to engage him and who on that basis seldom left disappointed. If it comes down to that person's life and their well-being, why should they not choose themselves?

50:35So life of the mother is extremely rare. It's not that rare though. How many times do you think that there are abortions for the life of the mother out of 1.5 million abortions every year? How much do you think? I'm not sure with the number off the top of my head. Less than 500 out of 1.5 million. At the end of his life, Kirk was more optimistic than ever, as Trump 2.0 carried forward so much of the anti-woke domestic policy agenda the young activists had pressed for more than a decade. How are you feeling overall about the health of America right now? We're making huge strides, but we also have a lot of battles to fight, don't we?

51:10Yes, we do. Look, we're in the midst of a major, let's say, fight and struggle for the reclamation of the American Republic. And President Donald Trump is doing incredible right now. Charlie Kirk was 31 in Washington. James Rosen, Newsmax. It shows just I mean, it's so rudimentary. You know, it almost looks like Charlie drew it. It's clear the guy has no professional help. He's so young. He's so green. and he had this idea of going onto college campuses to try to change people's minds about conservatism. He was a huge Rush Limbaugh fan. He would spend his free time in high school listening to Rush.

51:53You know, some people go out like into the smoking section and play hacky sack. Okay, that's back when I was a kid. Not Charlie. He was sneaking in Rush Limbaugh, which explains a lot and had this idea to build an organization that spoke directly to these college students. The irony, of course, right? Because he would never become one. So he started going on college campuses and he was convinced by a conservative mentor to like take a gap year rather than go and see out a freshman year of college, take a gap year and to consider working on his activism because this guy could see real promise in Charlie.

52:33And so he did. And his gap year turned into what he told me was a gap decade. And he spent the vast majority of that on college campuses, trying to persuade college kids to revisit their feelings about conservatism. That is what brought him to Utah Valley University this week. You know, he was there fighting the good fight because kids who go to college these days are sent into indoctrination factories. Every professor they have is a hard left liberal. The administration tends to be hard left liberals. Their fellow students are at least taught that they have to pretend that they are hard left liberals.

53:13And Charlie was trying to encourage students to, A, reject that, and B, if they were secret closeted conservatives, to come out and fight for their ideals and spread conservatism.

53:27and if that's what happened if this shooter lived a relatively normal life and then went to college where his mental health deteriorated and he was radicalized on his college campus it'll come to the surprise of no one it'll be something we on the right want to talk about and take a hard look at, and it will be something like trans ideology factoring into any shooting that will get utterly ignored. Even listening to today's reports about what was written on the cartridges, everyone's skipping right over the one about notice bulges. We're not talking about that one. They're okay with the fascist stuff, but they're skipping right over what was on the bullet that actually hit Charlie Kirk.

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56:45We're paying tribute to Charlie Kirk today and talking about the latest on his accused shooter, who is now in custody and arrested, accused of aggravated murder. Uh, his grandmother has been reached by the Daily Mail. Uh, she, they do report that the family is Republican though. Again, Michael Schellenberger says he reviewed 13 years of social media and didn't see a single political tweet whatsoever. They may be registered Republicans. Um, though the shooter was not. He had no affiliate. He was registered unaffiliated. They say, yeah, he grew up in a, quote, staunchly Republican Trump backing family, according to the Daily Mail.

57:33Breaking her silence on Friday, Tyler Robinson's grandmother, Debbie Robinson, 69, said she is stunned by the charges against her grandson, describing him as a quiet, reserve young man who never spoke politics, despite his father's staunch Trump support. My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump. Debbie, who also lives in Washington, Utah, told the Daily Mail, Tyler, the son, is the shyest person, she added. He has never, ever spoke politics to me at all. Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who's a Democrat. I'm just so confused. I mean, I wish I could say I were confused about that particular dynamic, but I'm not because it doesn't look like this kid was political one way or the other.

58:24And then he went off to the indoctrination factory that is college and appears to have had a mental break. And look, it could have been anything. You know, he could have had a mental break and been triggered by something else. But the left-wing ideology that is pushed on students on every college campus in this country is radicalizing millions of them. They don't all go out and shoot somebody, but I would be doing Charlie a disservice if I did not underscore that it is radicalizing millions of them. He was in a lifelong mission to undo it, to fight against it. I mean, the irony that it's what killed him, that it's what got him killed.

59:09One source is adding here from CNN, the man who allegedly shot and killed Charlie is now not talking to investigators, say to the sources familiar. One source said that the man was talking with some law enforcement initially, but quickly went silent after he lawyered up this morning. It's unclear what he discussed with officers before. I don't really care. I don't care. We have messages. This, this kid's fucked. He's going to be found guilty. Okay. That's just all there is to it. It's very obvious. These messages that the roommate showed, it's over. It's over. Not to mention his alleged confession to his own father.

59:46But we pulled up exactly what the governor said. And I was right. The governor did say that, among other things, Tyler, the accused here, mentioned the engravings he did on the bullet casings. It's kind of a silver bullet for a prosecutor. I'll read you exactly what he said. Oh, we have a shot. That's even better. Let's listen. These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to visually watching the area where a rifle was left, and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel.

1:00:46The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact, Tyler, also mentioned that he had changed outfits. I mean, all of that's going to come into evidence and it will. We don't need his confession. We don't need his talking to investigators. We don't need any. He already talked. He talked plenty. He talked to the roommate through those writings, which will be admissible. and he talked to his dad and they talked to the youth minister and then they talked to law enforcement last night before he lawyered up. So it's not going to go well for Tyler and he's looking at a death penalty case now.

1:01:27And we'll see whether the governor dials that back now, but that's what he said before the arrest last night. And he's been charged, as I pointed out, with aggravated murder. And by the way, inevitably in these cases you get some sort of insanity defense when they when as here they have the person dead to rights then that's going to be a huge uphill battle for this guy because right now no one's saying he was insane listen what i just read to you from the grandma he's like shy that's it had a roommate the roommate didn't apparently say that cops he's an insane person he did it the roommate didn't even bother to call cops from the look of it still has an asterisk next to it.

1:02:07Don't totally understand what the sequence of events was there, but haven't heard anything about people jumping up and down that, you know, he was crazy. And then you look at the way he pulled off the crime. You know, he, the, the, the like diligence with which he committed the execution, the video that they released last night, we talked about it in great detail on morning update, AM update, but we don't do video on that show. And I'll show it to you here that the video that was released by the law enforcement last night, and I think to my team, this is video two. So it shows them zeroing in and then they show the rooftop and you can see him.

1:02:50He was first prone. He runs across the roof. He hangs. He dang, there he is. If you check your top, top right of your screen, he's now into like the white corner of that. There he is. Now he's about to get down off the roof. He dangles for a couple seconds. Here it is. One, two, three, and he's down. Four seconds. By the way, they said they got a handprint on the top of that roof and they got a footprint from the grass. That handprint will be directly traceable to somebody. And they definitely got handprints from the inside of the stairwell when he walked up to get to this roof because they have, that's where they got the still shots from, where he's just wearing the black shirt with the American flag with the eagle on it.

1:03:32You can see him touching the handrails. So they're going to have fingerprints from that. They said that they got a palm print from the weapon. I mean, this is like, we don't need this guy's confession. Everything he did is a confession. But my point is simply methodical. Forgive the way this is phrased, but well executed. And I just simply mean not the erratic behavior of a crazed lunatic, but the controlled, methodical, determined, logical behavior of an assassin. So none of that is good for him in trying to wiggle out of this. I guarantee you, given the amount of evidence against him, we're going to see some sort of a mental defect defense.

1:04:16What other choice do they have? You know, neither his parents nor his lawyer are going to want to just watch him be executed. And here we may see another attempt to plead guilty with a life in prison sentence to avoid the death penalty. What will they do? Was Charlie given the chance to live if he pled out with this guy? Was he given the chance to plead for his life at all? I think we all know the answer to that. I have no empathy for this guy. None. None whatsoever. Even Trump, he had some thoughts on the death penalty. And he offered them on Fox and Friends with respect to this case this morning, Sot 3.

1:05:03I hope he was going to be found guilty, I would imagine. And I hope he gets the death penalty. What he did, Charlie Kirk was the finest person. He didn't deserve this. He worked so hard and so well. Everybody liked him. I've been watching. Even the left is having a hard time. They fired this guy, Dowd, from MSDNC, who's a terrible guy, terrible human being. But they fired him. I hear they're firing other people. MSNBC, but NBC, ABC, CBS, they're all terrible, absolutely terrible and unfair. But even they have been giving it sort of like, this can't be allowed to happen.

1:05:41Here is the information on the aggravated murder statute in Utah. An actor commits aggravated murder if the actor intentionally or knowingly causes the death of another individual under the following circumstances, any of the following circumstances. One, the actor knowingly created a great risk of death to another individual other than the deceased individual and the actor. That's the end of it. We don't have to keep reading. He took his rifle, he aimed it at Charlie, who is in the midst of a crowd of thousands, and he fired. There is a risk that you will miss and you will shoot others. There is a risk that you will inadvertently shoot more than one person, that your bullet will go through one person and into another.

1:06:29This is, I think this is a slam dunk. Two, the actor committed homicide in an especially heinous, atrocious, cruel, or exceptionally depraved manner, any of which must be demonstrated by physical torture, serious bodily, sorry, serious physical abuse, or serious bodily injury of the deceased individual before death. That one's less clear. And then it concludes with penalty for aggravated murder can be death. If a notice of intent to seek the death penalty has been filed, it's up to life in prison without notice, without notice of intent to seek the death penalty. Well, the governor already said he's going to be seeking it this morning.

1:07:11And he already knew that it was a 22 year old man named Tyler Robinson who was in custody. So he's not, you know, I just I can like already what we're getting from the left is it's a white Christian Republican kid. I don't know whether again, he does not appear to be a Republican. He comes from a Republican family. I don't give a shit. I don't care if he was a registered Republican. I don't care if he appeared at a Trump rally wearing a MAGA hat. His bullets told us the story. His his family said he hated Charlie Kirk, thought that Charlie spread hate. And his bullets said he thought Charlie was a fascist and that he, the shooter, had some weird association with the furry community and also had some weird gay reference there.

1:07:56I don't know what that one meant. But I know what fascist means. And I know it was on one of his bullets. And it was pretty explicit. Hold on, because it's been an hour now and I don't have it right in front of me. But just for those of you who want to know explicitly. This is what it said. Standby. Notice bulges. That's the one that was fired into Charlie. Notices bulges. O-W-O. What is this? And if you Google that, notices bulges O-W-O, you'll see that is a furry meme also used in gaming. Unfired casing one. Hey, fascist, catch with three down arrow symbols. Unfired casing number two. Oh, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Chow Chow, a reference to an anti-fascist song out of Italy.

1:08:45And Unfired Casing number three, if you read this, you are gay, LMAO. Okay. I want to keep going because I really want to get to what's circulating right now. So JD Vance went out to Utah yesterday with Usha, second lady Ujah Vance, and they picked up the Kirk family that was in Utah with Charlie, grieving. I'm sure Erica flew out there immediately to be with everybody, and picked them up in Air Force Two, including Charlie's remains. Even just saying that seems unbelievable to me. I'm just still like... And here you can see when they disembarked, getting back to Arizona, Erica Kirk disembarking with Usha holding hands, vice president following behind.

1:09:40And Usha Vance just seems like the person, the perfect person for that job. She's so smart. She's such an empathetic person. I've met her. She's totally beautiful in the truest sense of that word. I don't know. Maybe God sent her, you know, maybe, maybe Charlie sent her to go be with Erica. I can see her being a great comfort. in a moment like that. And the video of J.D. Vance walking as a pallbearer on the front of Charlie's casket as it approaches Air Force Two is something remarkable. For the listening audience, we're showing it now. The wind is blowing in Utah. You see, I count one, two, three, four, four or more service personnel in the military.

1:10:31Of course, J.D. Vance is a retired Marine. On the front of this casket, a brown casket, which they took from the hearse, inching toward Air Force Two. I know for a fact Charlie rode on Air Force One. I'll bet he rode on Air Force Two because he and J.D. were quite close. And just the thought of Charlie having been on Air Force Two with J.D. Vance as a friend and a colleague and a supporter. And now his final trip back home to Arizona on that Air Force Two again, though this time in a casket. It's just awful. Poor Erica. Her long blonde hair blowing in the breeze. This woman is spectacular. She's stunningly beautiful, but she's equally smart.

1:11:22you always can find her in a crowd because of the long blonde hair, you know, the long flowing blonde hair, the sparkling blue eyes. And there's a great video circulating online. It's about 10 minutes long. I think it was a turning point production with both of them. It's just, just cuts between Erica and Charlie on how they met. We have about two minutes of a cut. You're going to enjoy this. Our only, our toughest decision this morning was deciding what not to put in. Watch this. What was it like dating Erica? Very fun. I mean, she's incredibly loyal, a great sport about traveling and about always having my back.

1:12:03You know, for those people that know me, you know, I sit around most times and don't do much and adverse to traveling, very shy, trying to find my purpose in life. So she was obviously very helpful at fixing all those things. I truly feel as if every piece of my life prepared me to date him and eventually obviously marry him but to date him and I say that because ever since I was little and even after college and adult years I traveled all the time and I was used to being living out of a suitcase I was used to a very unconventional schedule I was used to the entrepreneur mindset and just in the mode of building and building and building.

1:12:48And so I got him. I understood that. I understood his sporadic schedule because mine was just as sporadic. And I understood the sleepless nights. And I understood, like, having to make the time for someone. It's not just, it doesn't just come to you. You have to, you have to work at it. You have to invest into it. And so dating each other, it was, I, I loved it. I mean, we got to know each other. You, I tell you what, you learned something. about someone a lot more quickly by traveling with them than you do just seeing them on a weekend for just a getaway. When you travel with someone and you have to go through TSA and you have to go through all the different airports and you have to deal with hotel rooms not being ready and car rentals not working out and missing your flight and every logistic you can imagine because you see every flavor of someone's humanity.

1:13:40And we just, I don't, God literally made us for each other. She was always such a great sport with all the chaos that is my life and Turning Point USA and my biggest fan and my biggest cheerleader. And always being just so full of grace and wanting to see me succeed. In the video, they talk about how they met at Turning Point. Erica was actually seeking a job. She was living in Manhattan at the time. and she was seeking a job. And Charlie said, he sent her a text, I guess, saying, I'll meet you at, I think he said, like Bill's Burgers in New York, where he didn't live. You know, he's in Arizona.

1:14:20And she said she'd been living in Manhattan for years. She'd never even heard of Bob's Burgers or Bill's Burgers. Same, by the way. But she said, okay, fine. She wanted the job. So she and Charlie met at Bill's and sat there for three hours talking. And she's thinking she's on a job interview the whole time. And it cuts to him sort of being like, I moved past whether I wanted to hire her and it moved on pretty quickly to whether I wanted to date her. And at the end, she said something like, did I get the job? And he said, no, I don't want to hire you. And she was like, oh, okay. She already had a job.

1:14:57So she was like, okay, I'll just keep doing my current job. And he said, I want to date you. And she said something to the effect of, can I think it over? And he said, sure, you can think it over until tomorrow night when I'm going to take you out again. This is so great. Charlie had such swagger. You know, that was something that we loved about him. He had swagger and confidence, but in a gentlemanly way. I played that soundbite the other day of him on courtship, you know, when he was talking to those two young podcasters on, of course, you must pay for the first date as the guy when you are courting a woman.

1:15:28That the money you save is not worth the honor you sacrifice. and I guarantee you he paid at Bill's Burgers and that he paid the next night too because he was a gentleman. He was an old school gentleman. And by the way, people, this is one of those things that people give Charlie a hard time for. He used to say they were living a Christian life. I mean, deeply Christian, both of them. And he used to say, he said, on I think a few, more than one occasion that I heard publicly, women submit to your husbands. Oh, well, that drove leftist women in particular. Absolutely nuts. Now, I am not living that kind of a life.

1:16:04I don't live like that with Doug. I don't submit to Doug exactly. Like we kind of both submit to each other, to be honest with you. But I understood exactly what he was saying. They had a traditional Christian marriage where Charlie was the head of household. He was the patriarch. And she was the matriarch. And she explains in this video what that means, you know, how she enjoyed making a home that would rise up to meet Charlie when he got home. and she would ask him, how can I make it more comfortable for you? How can I support you when you come home from these busy trips where you're building for our family and taking care of us?

1:16:38And they would wake up every day saying, you know, how can I make your day better and more aligned with our faith and our belief in Christ and live in a more God-like manner? That's what they meant. He was the head of household. He would make certain decisions and she was fine with that. You could see she's a very assertive, smart, young woman. It's not like, Erica, you do exactly as I tell you. You know, it's not, it's not the way I live, but I had absolutely no judgment for the way they lived and it totally worked for them. They were mad for each other. And I can't help but think about it now because she must feel so lost.

1:17:13She must feel so lost without him. And so in need of him right now, you know, like the, the person she needs to get her through this is the person she's lost who is at the center of what she's going through. This is a picture of her in the car being taken from the, I think from the plane back to her house. There's one where she's holding up a cross. There's one where she's holding up a rosary. She, thank God, is a God-fearing woman. There it is. You can see she's holding it. She loves God. She's connected with her faith and that will help her and she will need that mightily now. Can't help but think of the fact that who ultimately convinced the shooter to turn himself in?

1:18:03It was a minister. It was a Christian minister. I just got the chills. Who knows how the hand of fate works? who sent that youth minister there? Who inspired the dad to call to call a minister into the house to convince the shooter to turn himself in? Who was behind those wheels as they spun? I don't know. It's interesting to think about as Eric is there holding up the rosary and holding up the cross. And now we know the shooter was within hours of confessing and turning himself in. It's pretty remarkable. And, you know, there's been some criticism of Kash Patel. We'll get to that in a bit, but I give him all the credit.

1:18:51They got the guy and it's not just they got him because he turned himself in. They got him because they released the photos. They kept turning up the pressure and it was the photos that led the dad, you know, Robinson's dad to recognize his son. That's exactly what law enforcement's hoping will happen when they release those photos. Someone, a friend, a family member, et cetera, will recognize the photo and do something. It's how they caught Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, too. His brother recognized the writings that were in his manifestos that were published in the papers. Why were they published?

1:19:25Why did these newspapers agree to publish the rantings of a lunatic who was bombing people? They were hoping it might trigger something for somebody. Like, they'll recognize—and that's exactly what happened. So, he's taking some heat. I'm going to get to the criticism on cash in a minute, but let me just stay on Charlie and Erica. So he convinced her. She said she went home. She talked to her mom. The mom said, did you get the job? She said, no, I didn't get the job, but I think I got a date. And mom said, that's great. Terrific. Awesome. And it seems like from that point forward, there was no turning back.

1:20:02And these two are clearly perfect for each other. They're both absolutely gorgeous. It's actually kind of funny because no offense, Charlie, but I mean, Erica is objectively gorgeous by any person's measure, but Charlie, I had a very funny conversation with somebody on his team who was telling me that they, that Charlie used to be a little more nerdy, you know, like 10 years ago, he was certainly a little bit more nerdy and he was very much always in the suit and almost looked like he was playing dress up because he was so young, like an Alex P. Keaton type. And that they, they recently persuaded him to ditch the suits and put on a black t-shirt and maybe let's ruffle the hair a little and go out there looking less than perfectly coiffed.

1:20:46And they were saying that it worked. I mean, like his, his youth following, especially with the female persuasion, went through the roof. And that's great. Whatever you can do to get people to pay attention to your message, you do, you know? So all these young women started falling in love with Charlie because he suddenly went from like a kind of nerdy, uh, smart kid to like this cool MAGA type. And boy, but Charlie never looked away. He, Charlie had zero interest in anyone other than Erica. And that was really clear. Just if you talk to Charlie at all. I mean, when I met Charlie the first time in person, we were backstage at a turning point event down in Florida and, uh, They had just had their first child, their daughter.

1:21:32And he's got this crazy event going on. There are people everywhere. There's, you know, the president's coming in. He was not the president at the time, but Trump was coming in. All these people are coming in. And who's backstage? There's Erica on a blanket that's spread out in the middle of the chaos. Backstage, yes, but like in the middle of the chaos. She's sitting there with their baby daughter. And Charlie had been sitting there with her. I mean, his life was so crazy that day. And he had been sitting there with her for a bit. And, you know, that's just the kind of relationship they had. She would go on the road with him.

1:22:02And I made the point that in AM Update the other day that I love these pictures of them at the beach with their kids. And Charlie's in a suit. This is so great. It's so on brand because he told me personally he doesn't know what to do with himself while he's on vacation. That he was unable to, like, kind of sit and veg and meditate. I feel the same a lot of the time. I'm like, I cannot get massages because all I do is think about the million things that are in the news. What do we run this right soundbite? Could we have done that better? Maybe it could have been tighter. Tomorrow I'll do a different thing.

1:22:35And he was exactly that same way. It's not that you can't ever relax. And it's certainly not that you don't enjoy time with your family that he did. And that I do as well, but that kind of sitting on the beach doing nothing was not his thing, which is why I laugh when these pictures are, you know, of him in the suit. He was a doer. He was a go-getter. And that's how he built Turning Point from that little operation in his parents' garage when he was 18. And, like, basically hand-sketching his own logo to this juggernaut with the fire when you'd walk out. And the lights and, you know, the pyrotechnics and the great montages that made all of us look cooler than we are.

1:23:17And Charlie would just do it all. He would, if you wanted to give a speech, you'd give a speech. If you wanted to be interviewed by him, which I think is a little bit easier as the person appearing, that's no problem. He'll interview everybody. Like, he'll just do it. He can do it off the top of his head. Then he'd say, let's do a podcast behind the scenes. Okay, we'll go do that too. Like, endless, endless, endless energy. As I was pointing out yesterday, he went to Oxford recently. He was in Japan on Sunday, Sunday, doing speeches. And then he, of course, was in Utah kicking off his Great American Comeback Tour.

1:23:53And then it was going to be two months of that. And he and I were supposed to meet in either Indiana or Virginia. Over the next weeks after, Andy was coming to be with me out in California in Anaheim. This is the two of us backstage in July at the Turning Point event. I love, love, love this picture. For the listening audience, I'm right in front of him. We're about to walk out to stage. I sort of have the hand motions going if that means something to you by listening. And Charlie's got the double thumbs up with a huge smile. We were having fun. We're both doing exactly what we love to do. Talk about the news.

1:24:33And it came at a very high price for Charlie. Too high. too high. He was a happy warrior. He loved what he did. It was so good to people, me included. And he did not deserve to die the way he did. He did not deserve to have his life cut short. He did not deserve to miss the childhood of his daughter or that of his 16-month-old son. You know, the child just begun to walk. Here we sat two months ago, having no idea what was coming. I keep thinking about this soundbite that we had, this exchange we had when he came on the show. Was it, gosh, it was right after Trump won. It was in November. My team has it.

1:25:33And it was when he was talking about the fact he was so in awe. We ran that soundbite of him on his show just saying, glory be to God, when Trump won. And we were talking about it. And here's that exchange in November of 2024. I was humbled and blown away because I, throughout this entire thing, I'm getting emotional thinking about it. And I'm sure you agree, Megan. I said, there's no way they're going to let us do this. Something's going to happen. Right. And again, call it paranoia, call it just trying to be ahead of the curve. And I'm sitting in the seat right here where I saw Trump got shot.

1:26:12And like they tried to kill him and indict him. And it's like at every turn, I'm like, here we go. The regime is striking back. Right. And it's just you don't think you're actually going to get there because we've been programmed to just say that like powerful people get what they want. Right. And it's yeah, he was one millimeter from this whole country just going into bedlam. And what if one of these trials would have went differently? Right. What if Jack Smith would have rushed his cases in this? I mean, like a million different things. Right. And there you go. And you hear the words that Donald Trump is president elect.

1:26:49I just again, glory be to God is all I can say, because I believe there's a divine element. I asked the question, is God done with this land? I don't think it was. He is. I think that the evil that you've covered of this butchery of children is going to come to an end. This evil of allowing men and female sports is going to come to an end. And we were blessed to play a small role.

1:27:17Ten months later, he was executed.

1:27:24He had doubts about whether the regime was going to let Trump win or whether they would kill him or imprison him. And never for a moment was he thinking he would be the one who was executed. Was it the regime? Was it a lone lunatic shooter who was having a mental break and had been radicalized by bullshit messages about Charlie that were untrue? I don't know. Like I, at some level I don't care. I've got to be honest. Like I do care because we need to know, but I just feel like who gives a shit? He's gone. None of this is going to fix that. None of this is going to fix that. Erica was talking about Charlie in May of 2025 for a political event for the Arizona, our U.S.

1:28:22representative Andy Biggs running for Arizona governor. Here she is in side eight. He is my husband, Charlie Kirk is a force. He is a force. He is bold when the world demands silence. He is fearless where others flinch. And he has taken on the battle of the next generation, changing these hearts and minds. I know you guys I've seen it at the college campuses, changing the hearts and minds of these kids. It's not a career to him. It's a calling. And it's so incredible to see as a wife, how God has prepared him, how God has molded him and used him all while he's doing that. He's still the spiritual head of our family.

1:29:14It is my honor to be able to introduce you guys to one of the greatest fighters that I know, who is so intentional, who is so amazing, and he never backs down from the fight because he knows who and what he fights for, and that is God, it's his family, and it's country. I want to introduce you guys to my husband, Charlie Kirk.

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1:34:07Charlie, hey, it's Megan Kelly, can you hear me? Yes, I can, hi Megan, how are you? I have one request Yeah, lay it on me Would it be possible at some point that I call the soft? Just one, just one because I love watching you do that I thought, okay, if I ever do her show, I'm going to ask that I just activate one SOT. Is it time? It's time. Play SOT 5. Charlie Sheen. His life has been a wild ride. I was really hard to control. I'm by winning. I win here and I win there. That one. I had found some different level of, I don't know what. I am on a drug. It's called Charlie Sheen. A Hollywood legend.

1:34:50What do you care if your brother ditches school? This cameo just falls out of the sky into my lap. I think I've made a big mistake coming in. Films like Platoon, Wall Street, and The Rookie. You want a do-over? No, I don't want a do-over. The highest paid actor in television history. But all of that success came with challenges, addiction. Drugs are undefeated. It's like 20 million to zero. To get through that, you know, several times. and tumultuous relationships. You write about how you paid people blackmail money. It's exhausting. And to always, anytime the phone rings or you see an email from a lawyer, if this is prison, the only thing that's missing is the bars and the guards.

1:35:34Eight years sober and back to tell his story his own way. From the deepest reaches of myself, you know? Like, I didn't know anything about your long friendship with Nick Cage. It's like we found each other right when we needed to. Can we both agree that Daryl Hannah was miscast? I think you owe me. She was, and she knew it. I mean, she could feel it. His new memoir, The Book of Sheen, tells all. And we do mean all. I hope he doesn't mind that I'm sharing this with the world, you know? Oh, we're ready to go? And a new Netflix documentary, a.k.a. Charlie Sheen. You've already proven you can do all this shit to your body and still stay standing.

1:36:14I'm the guy that lived it and survived it, and I still don't completely know how.

1:36:23Well, we did an interview with Charlie Sheen on Tuesday that was set to air today, and we're holding it, given everything that's going on. But we are going to air it over the weekend. We're going to release it on Saturday, and you're going to love it. It's only an hour long. He's in full flower. He is so fun and funny. I loved our conversation and I think you are going to love this conversation a lot. Totally unexpected. Not at all what I thought he was going to be. So enjoy that tomorrow because you don't always get fresh Saturday content, but this Saturday you will. I did want to get to what's being said about Cash Patel.

1:37:00Our friend Steve Bannon is not so happy with how that presser this morning went. Cash got up there and basically said, this is what happens when you let cops be cops and kind of gave a back patting a few comments to the rank and file. That was about all, most of the details were given by the Utah governor. And here's what Bannon had to say about it. So many unanswered questions and I do not understand why law enforcement did not step up to the microphone and give some details. It appears The kid had said something to the family. The family had confronted him, and the family turned him in. I'm not seeing the great law enforcement working.

1:37:38We don't need a governor to step up and give us basically a political pep talk and a rally. And let's just all come together. When you have an Antifa, you get details in here about the theme song for Antifa on the bullet. You got the symbology that Antifa uses all the time. you clearly have a young, progressive left-wing hater that assassinated Charlie Kirk in cold blood. What I want to see is some law enforcement people step up to the microphone, give some details, and take some questions from the media. I don't know why cash flew out there thousands of miles to give us, hey, working partnerships and our great partnership in Utah.

1:38:18Okay, I got that. No offense to the law enforcement guys in the future of this. the public assumes that you're working together as partnerships.

1:38:30Fair, like a fair. What happened was you had the Utah governor get up there and just sort of gloss over some of these facts. It was like, wait, what? What was on the bullet? You know, somebody said, what are those? He was like, I'll leave it up to you to figure out what that means. What? I mean, I think like what Bannon is saying is it was up to cash to get up there and spin the narrative and say, this is what we've gleaned from here. It didn't happen. And that's why now you have all these people online saying he was a white Republican MAGA, you know, whatever. They're going to do what they're going to do.

1:38:58It's very clear. Just read the bullets. You want to know what his motivation was? Read the bullets. It's obvious. He loathed Charlie Kirk because he thought he was a fascist. It's all there. Black and white. Read. That's all you have to do. His own family says he didn't like Charlie Kirk. He was raising it at dinner. He was growing increasingly political. Do we think he was growing increasingly Republican? That he hated Charlie Kirk because he was a diehard Republican who really hated fascism and that he was into like furry culture at the same time? I don't think so. So all week long, I've tried to avoid elevating the leftists who are melting down about Charlie because I just don't really give a shit about them.

1:39:48I just don't care. They don't, they didn't know him. You know, one of the things that I heard, I think it was at the New York Times. I can't keep my leftist straight. I think it was, was saying about Charlie was, oh, he was very controversial. You know, he, he said things like, like Mike, uh, Martin Luther King was a bad guy. Yes, he did say that. You know why? Because MLK's own biographer, a Pulitzer Prize winning biographer, broke the story that MLK was in back rooms allowing women on his staff to get sexually molested by others right in front of him and seemed to kind of enjoy it. That's what Charlie was talking about.

1:40:29The stories no one else would talk about. That Charlie had questions about the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You know why? Because Charlie actually studied people like Shelby Steele, who wrote all about how the black middle class was rising prior to the reign of Lyndon B. Johnson, who infantilized the black community, setting them back by generations with his great society programs. Do some homework. This is a mainstream school of thought within the intellectual African-American community. Never mind. That's where Charlie got it. Fuck you for not doing your homework and just trying to paint him as some some crazy racist.

1:41:07It's just ridiculous. That's that's the New York Times's take. OK, so I have been avoiding taking all this on because I just like you're not going to convince these people. And why should we bother? Who gives a shit? We've already moved on without them like that. You can't persuade them. You can't persuade these lunatics who are online celebrating that Charlie's dead to be kind. Save it, Utah governor. You can't. All right, just stop. It's like these people need to be defeated, not reasoned with. All we can worry about is motivating our side. It's like Don Jr. said. We had somebody who reached out to the other side and would listen to them and debate on fair terms.

1:41:44And to quote Don exactly, they fucking killed him. He's not wrong. But I've got to play this soundbite of this asshole, Nate Burleson, on CBS This Morning, interviewing former Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy about the assassination earlier this week. Not everyone took to his words or his rhetoric. You know, at times, they were offensive to specific communities. But with that said, this is not the time to focus on that. We are focused on this tragedy. Speaking of this tragedy, is this a moment for your party to reflect on political violence? Is it a moment for us to think about the responsibility of our political leaders and their voices and what it does to the masses as they get lost in misinformation or disinformation that turns in and spills into political violence?

1:42:39You absolute asshole. What a dick. I. Is this a time for your party, Mr. Former Republican speaker, to reflect on political violence? Whose candidate almost got his head blown off a year ago? You total fucking douchebag. My God. It's time for Republicans to reflect on political violence that your party and your leader needs to reflect on his rhetoric on his rhetoric. Have you taken a look at blue sky? Did you look up and down what's left of the leftists on Twitter to see what they're saying in response to Charlie being shot down in the prime of his life? I'm infuriated by that guy. How dare he?

1:43:31And then he kicks it off by saying, oh, yeah, Charlie was offensive. He's basically saying Charlie was a bigot. You know what he said about certain communities. Fuck you. You don't know the first thing. You believe the bullshit that you read on blue sky. Then you go sit in that seat and you try to blame Republicans for political violence when Charlie isn't even buried yet. You utter asshole. You are too stupid and partisan to be in front of a camera. You should be fired. Your ass should be fired. Now they have a new CBS ombudsman that's supposed to reach out to Republicans. Great job. Great job.

1:44:04You suck. Welcome to the new boss. Same as the old boss. somebody needs to call call the ombudsman because you have a lunatic sitting on CBS this morning who is the balance Gail King Gail who said oh well I think both parties engage in it oh that's the balance it's the Republicans who have a violence problem and a rhetoric problem and Trump is the problem and Charlie was a bigot oh but you know both sides both sides kind of engage in it a little bit? Oh, thanks, Gail. To the moon. Sorry. That's just like, that one's been sticking in my craw. You know, I'd rather have like the lunatic blue haired because then you know that they're nuts.

1:44:50But this guy is like in the suit on the CBS set and like, oh, I'm just being super reasonable in his tone. Go F yourself. What did you say, Steve? You're giving me my timing. Do you need me to rap? I don't know. My team's like trying to, no. Okay. Yeah. Do we have time? All right. We have, we have three minutes. So we have a little time to do, to do one more. Ilhan Omar. Let's do that one. SOT 22. Here she is in an interview. Wait a second. Yeah. Isn't it, is this the one with, with Mehdi Hassan? Yeah, that's the one I wanted. SOT 22. What, what I do know for sure is that, you know, Charlie was someone who once said, you know, guns save lives after a school shooting.

1:45:41Charlie was someone who was willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd in the hands of Minneapolis police. I think he called him a scumbag. Right. Have no regard. Because he was. slavery and what black people have gone through in this country by saying Juneteen should never exist. Right. He was right about that, too. And I think, you know, there are a lot of people who are out there talking about him just wanting to have a civil debate. A complete rewriting of history. Yeah. There is nothing more effed up, you know, like than to completely pretend that, that his words and actions have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade or so.

1:46:32I can think of something that is more effed up. What if you married your brother? That'd be weird and messed up, wouldn't it? Like marrying your brother, that's definitely fucked up. Why'd you do that? Your own home paper, Minneapolis Star Tribune, couldn't conclude conclusively that you hadn't. that that's kind of fucked up literally everything she just said was a lie all of it was a lie or he was she was making points about charlie that were totally valid juneteenth is a stupid thing to do and like down the line the thing she was saying this is what they do they want to rewrite the history they want to ignore the millions of clips of charlie being bringing people together and they go with their bullshit lies like the new york times tried to tell like martin luther king He never did a bad thing.

1:47:17Charlie was so wrong to say he wasn't a good guy. Oh, maybe he didn't quite, as a Christian, support the way MLK was behind the scenes. Okay? This was a massive news story that was all over the papers a couple years ago. Maybe you missed it. It's not good for me. It raises my blood pressure too high to be thinking about these people. We're going to think about Charlie. We're going to think about Erica. We're going to say a prayer for their family. We're going to say a prayer for our country. We're going to say a prayer for ourselves that we maintain or reclaim, in my case, our dignity, our class, and that we lead by example in the lives that we live the same way Charlie did, whether they know it or not.

1:47:58Tomorrow, a special tribute to Charlie Sheen and the next day to Charlie Kirk.

1:48:07Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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