In short
This AM Update covers: (1) the near-conclusion of the Lindsay Clancy murder trial in Massachusetts, where she admits killing three children but argues postpartum psychosis; prosecutors say she was mentally ill yet legally responsible.
Key claims
prosecution experts Dr. Avram Mack (major depression) and Dr. Kirk Heilbrun (bipolar II) both agree no postpartum psychosis; Heilbrun frames the killings as “suicide combined with altruistic filicide,” citing suicidal thoughts and Catholic beliefs.
Notable examples
contentious testimony about Catholic doctrine (“is suicide a mortal sin?”) led to a mistrial request; Judge William Sullivan ordered jurors to disregard religion discussion. (2) Raquel Lee Below, a former Disney child star, sues Disney for alleged grooming/sexual abuse on a 2001 set, seeking damages and punitive relief. (3) U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant’s expanded secondary sanctions campaign against Iran (“economic D-Day”). (4) The “Hawk Fire” threatening Reno: nearly 90,000 urged to evacuate.
Guests
Phil Holloway (MK True Crime co-host). Experts: Dr. Avram Mack; Dr. Kirk Heilbrun.
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Tap a time to open that second in VOLindsay Clancy Trial Update
0:42 to 1:33
Discussion on the Lindsay Clancy trial and recent developments.
“You don't really ask a lot of questions.”
Lindsay Clancy Trial Update
1:39 to 2:30
Discussion on the Lindsay Clancy trial and recent developments.
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Psychiatric Testimonies in Clancy Trial
2:39 to 11:20
Review of psychiatrist testimonies in the Lindsay Clancy trial.
“The murder trial of Lindsay Clancy nearing its conclusion more than three years after she strangled her three young children inside their Massachusetts home and then tried to take her own life.”
Disney Child Star Lawsuit
11:27 to 14:01
Details on Raquel Lee Below's lawsuit against Disney for abuse.
“from repeated sexual abuse on the set of a Disney Channel movie back in 2001.”
Disney Lawsuit Developments
14:01 to 15:16
Learn about the recent allegations against Disney and their legal implications.
“This conduct is inexcusable, and those involved, directly or indirectly, must be held accountable.”
Economic D-Day Against Iran
16:03 to 18:08
Understand Secretary Besant's new campaign targeting Iran's economy.
“the global economy, warning foreign countries and companies they could face punishment for continuing to do business with the regime.”
U.S. Military Adjustments
18:12 to 20:10
Discuss the impact of the Iran conflict on U.S. military operations.
“Those who stand with the United States will reap the rewards of our partnership.”
Wildfire Threat in Reno
20:10 to 22:28
Hear about the wildfire situation as thousands are urged to evacuate.
“Marine Corps reportedly notifying its South Korean counterpart in June that it could not deploy enough forces for the exercise, known as Twin Dragons.”
Transcript
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0:43All right. You don't really ask a lot of questions. You answer the questions. A prosecution witness drawing a sharp rebuke from the judge in the Lindsay Clancy trial before another answer prompts the defense to demand a mistrial. A former Disney child star taking the company to court over horrifying allegations from the set of a Disney Channel movie. The Trump administration threatening to cut off Iran's trading partners from the U.S. financial system as Secretary Besant launches what he calls an economic D-Day. We also encourage those folks, if they have a place to go, if they have another place to stay, to go ahead and leave the area.
1:22And a fast-moving wildfire forcing evacuations in and around Reno, Nevada. nearly 90 ,000 people being urged to leave their homes. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.
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3:02Prosecutors contend Clancy was mentally ill but still legally responsible for the killings. The defense resting Friday and prosecutors beginning their rebuttal case by calling psychiatrist Dr. Avram Mack. Mack testifying that Clancy suffered from major depression rather than psychosis, retaining the ability to appreciate the wrongfulness of her actions. Defense attorney Kevin Reddington challenging both Mack's experience and the timing of his evaluation, noting the psychiatrist did not even meet Clancy until roughly three years after the children were killed. Mack acknowledging this is only about the third time he has testified in court about a defendant's criminal responsibility while defending himself as a psychiatric generalist.
3:47Reddington then walking Mack through the symptoms Clancy experienced before the killings, including severe depression, emotional numbness, anxiety, intrusive thoughts, and desperate attempts to sleep. Mack agreeing Clancy suffered major depressive episodes after the birth of her third child, acknowledging psychological testing found no indication that she was lying or exaggerating her symptoms. The psychiatrist also saying he found no record that Clancy's providers conducted blood tests to measure how she was responding to the numerous medications she had been prescribed. The defense contending those providers repeatedly misdiagnosed and over-medicated her.
4:26The cross-examination repeatedly growing contentious as Reddington pressed Mack on whether Clancy's distorted sense of reality could be a symptom of psychosis. Judge William Sullivan eventually stepping in when the witness did not directly answer. Delusional beliefs, distorted reality is a symptom. Yes or no. Not waxing and waning with your answer. Yes or no. Are you referring to an authority there? Doctor, hold on. Here's the way this works. All right. You don't really ask a lot of questions. You answer the questions. All right. I told you before, if you can't answer a question the way it's framed, just let me know and I'll tell counsel to frame it in a different way.
5:10All right. So that's the rules. That's how it works here. So go ahead. It's rigged. Prosecutor's next calling, forensic psychologist Dr. Kirk Heilbrun, who interviewed Clancy for several hours and reviewed her medical records, phone data, police reports, surveillance footage, and previous expert evaluations. Heilbrun and Mack conducting part of their evaluation together, but reaching different diagnoses. Mack diagnosing major depressive disorder, Heilbronn concluding Clancy has bipolar 2 disorder, although he acknowledged that he struggled to identify a clear manic episode before the killings.
5:49The two prosecution experts agreeing, however, that Clancy was not experiencing postpartum psychosis when she killed the children. Heilbronn focusing on the distinction between a hallucinated voice and an intrusive thought. Clancy reportedly telling him that some of the disturbing thoughts she experienced in the months before the killings, including that her brain was damaged and that she needed to kill herself, felt like her own thoughts rather than a separate voice. Heilbrunn offering a different explanation for the killings, describing the case as, quote, suicide combined with altruistic filicide, meaning killing your children out of what you think is love.
6:30The psychologist believing Clancy intended to end her own life after months of suicidal thoughts and killed her children because she believed they would suffer without her. Heilbronn pointing to Clancy's long-standing anxiety about leaving the children, along with her reported expectation that she and the children would be reunited in heaven. His testimony then veering into Clancy's Catholic upbringing and the church's teaching against suicide. If you could describe for us the evidence that you saw for suicide combined with altruistic filicide. One of the things that she said when asked about what happened is that in the course of strangling each child, she said, go to God, baby, go to God.
7:14And that was part of her expectation that she and the children would be together in heaven with God. She was raised as a Catholic. And this, as I understand, Catholic considerations, that's not necessarily what happens. But when I asked her about that, when I said, isn't suicide a mortal sin? Yeah, can I see counsel over here? The jury leaving the courtroom, Reddington immediately moving for a mistrial and accusing prosecutors of intentionally eliciting improper testimony by invoking religion. Prosecutor Jennifer Sprague denying misconduct, arguing her question was unrelated to Clancy's religion.
7:59Judge Sullivan openly questioning how any discussion of Clancy's faith was proper, but declining to declare a mistrial. The judge instead ordering jurors to disregard Heilbrunn's understanding of Catholic doctrine and warning prosecutors to keep the witness from discussing it again. We spoke with the MK True Crime show co-host Phil Holloway, who explained why Heilbrunn's reference to Clancy's Catholic faith was especially problematic after the judge had already excluded similar testimony earlier in the trial. The testimony about someone's religion or what a different religion's tenets might be and how it plays into a case is the kind of thing that's it's really just irrelevant to any issue in the case.
8:44It has no bearing on what her state of mind was at the time the children were killed. And so the big objection is really not that somebody talked about religion, but it's that they brought in something that's A, irrelevant to the case, and B, that invokes religion which can inflame sort of people's passions, and you don't want the jury's passions to be inflamed for the wrong reasons. Holloway breaking down how Heilbrunn's theory that Clancy killed her children out of what the doctor calls altruistic filicide could work for either side. The idea that she would kill her children out of love, thinking that they would be better off dead if she were also dead.
9:33That's the kind of disjointed sort of irrational thinking that, you know, the defense is going to play into, especially in a case like this, because whether or not she fully appreciated what was right from what was wrong, that's really the core issue in the case. And so the prosecutor is going to argue that it shows that she knew what she was doing is wrong, whereas the defense is going to say she knew that what she was doing was, at least in her mind, in her twisted mind, was for the benefit of the children. In other words, the defense is going to say in her mind she was helping the children by killing them.
10:13And so this is the kind of hard, hard question that the jury is going to have to resolve when they reach the deliberation room. As for Dr. Avram Mack, Holloway calls the defense's cross-examination of him a, quote, masterclass. Holloway arguing Mack's evasive answers may have damaged his credibility with the jury. When a judge tells a witness, particularly an expert witness who has been in court before and is supposed to know better, when the judge has to tell that witness to listen and answer the questions posed to him, then obviously the jury is going to get the message that the witness is perhaps not trying to be as forthcoming as he needs to be.
10:56And so it's not the kind of thing that you want the judge to have to do if it's your witness who is drawing the ire of the court. These were simple questions, and the witness went went out of his way to obfuscate and basically not answer simple questions. And the judge got tired of it. And you know, if the judge was tired of it, that the jury was tired of it. Testimony set to resume later today, closing arguments expected to begin as soon as tomorrow. Former Disney child star Raquel Lee Below suing the company, alleging it failed to protect her from repeated sexual abuse on the set of a Disney Channel movie back in 2001.
11:37The now 39-year-old actress filing a civil negligence lawsuit Friday in Los Angeles County Superior Court, according to People Magazine. Below accusing an unnamed middle-aged male Disney employee of grooming and repeatedly sexually assaulting her back in 01 when she was just 14 years old. The alleged abuse reportedly occurring during production of The Poof Point, a Disney Channel movie starring Mark Curry and Don Lewis as scientists whose experiments caused them to become younger. Below playing their daughter alongside fellow child actor Taj Mowry. The lawsuit alleging the unnamed employee gave Below alcohol before sexually assaulting her inside a Salt Lake City hotel room where the cast was staying and later during a flight back to California.
12:26Below claiming Disney employees had encouraged her to, quote, bond with the man, while production staff allegedly separated the teenage actress from her on-set guardian. The complaint also alleging the employee tormented Below in front of other adults, making comments about the alleged abuse while she and other cast members were wearing microphones. Below contending Disney personnel could see a dramatic change in her appearance, behavior, and performance, yet no one intervened or even investigated. Instead, the lawsuit claims Disney executives reportedly labeled the teenager, quote, out of control, blamed her for her worsening performance, and canceled another planned role.
13:06Below now seeking damages for alleged economic losses and emotional distress, along with punitive damages, attorney's fees, and other costs, according to People. The complaint not specifying a total amount. Below able to pursue the case because California expanded the statute of limitations for childhood sexual abuse claims in 2020, the law allowing survivors to file until their 40th birthday or within five years of discovering that the alleged abuse caused lasting psychological harm, the 39-year-old below filing just before that age deadline. California law also allowing a plaintiff to seek up to three times the actual damages if a company or institution is proven to have covered up child sexual abuse, according to Deadline.
13:51Her attorneys, Douglas Wigdor and Jane Kim, releasing a statement, quote, as former government prosecutors, our message to the entertainment industry is simple. This conduct is inexcusable, and those involved, directly or indirectly, must be held accountable. Deadline reporting the attorneys first approached Disney in June in hopes of reaching an out-of-court settlement, but the two sides reportedly failed to reach an agreement. The outlet also reporting Below previously reached a confidential settlement for what was described as a small amount of money with a man who worked on the poof point.
14:26That agreement reportedly negotiated back in 2015 with the help of prominent sexual assault attorney, Gloria Allred. The settlement remains confidential, deadlines suggesting that may explain why the allegedly abusive employee is identified only as John Doe in the new lawsuit. Disney declining to comment to Deadline on the lawsuit or its allegations. Coming up, Secretary Besant launching what he calls an economic D-Day against Iran. And nearly 90 ,000 people urged to leave their homes as a raging wildfire closes in on Reno.
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16:30dollar. Secretary Besant comparing the broader economic offensive to D-Day during World War II. The secretary outlining a campaign targeting the oil shipping aviation gold technology and digital asset networks keeping money flowing to Tehran. Beginning today, the actions of Treasury and other agencies will tighten the noose and block every potential source of revenue that funds the IRGC and the evil Iranian regime. We are enforcing a zero-leakage approach. There will be no minimal breathing space for the regime to rebuild its capacity to inflict terror against America and the world. The final refuge of this regime is a mistaken conclusion of nations that still finance the Iranian threat in the hopes of evading it.
17:21Yesterday, the Treasury Department sanctioning nearly 60 companies, individuals, and vessels allegedly supporting Iran's nuclear, missile, cyber, and oil operations. Those targets allegedly operating across the UAE, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, Switzerland, and more. Secretary Besant separately declining to publicly identify which countries will face the new penalties or reveal how long they have to end the activity identified by Washington. The secretary refusing to announce a firm deadline, saying, quote, I'm not going to set a timeline, but we do not have infinite patience here. Asked whether the broader secondary sanctions campaign could also target China itself, reportedly Iran's largest oil customer, Secretary Besant declaring, quote, no one is above this.
18:06The secretary issuing a warning to other governments. Nations that facilitate any interactions with the regime should quickly heed our message. Those who stand with the United States will reap the rewards of our partnership. Those who tether themselves to the Iranian regime should expect to share in the isolation of a withering regime. Teams from Treasury, State, and the U.S. military are now meeting with their global counterparts to tell them that the United States expects action. Every country has a defined timeline to shut down activities we have identified. If they do not take action, we will do so unilaterally through Treasury authorities.
18:53And let me be clear, any entity that facilitates money laundering on behalf of Iran will be removed from the U.S. dollar system. Axios reporting the expanded secondary sanctions are expected to remain the administration's primary strategy against Iran through at least the midterm elections before renewed military action could return to consideration. The campaign's success likely hinging on cooperation from Western allies and a more aggressive approach toward major Iranian trading partners, including China, Russia, and India, according to Axios. Iranian parliament speaker and chief negotiator Mohamed Bagheer Ghalibaf dismissing the threat, writing on X, quote, Americans know that no one buys their bombast.
19:39Iran's trading partners, both in the media and through messages sent to us, have made it clear that they don't take these statements into account anywhere. Markets remaining largely unmoved following Secretary Besant's announcement, the war also straining American military resources beyond the Middle East. The New York Times reporting the U.S. military canceling a major amphibious landing exercise planned next month alongside South Korea, citing constraints on the forces available because of the war in Iran. The U.S. Marine Corps reportedly notifying its South Korean counterpart in June that it could not deploy enough forces for the exercise, known as Twin Dragons.
20:20Nearly 90 ,000 people being urged to leave their homes as a massive wildfire closes in on Reno, Nevada. The Hawk Fire, scorching more than 15 ,000 acres since first igniting Saturday morning in the foothills northwest of the city. Roughly 42 ,000 residents ordered to evacuate immediately, with another 45 ,000 people in the surrounding warning zone being told to prepare to leave. Officials expanding the mandatory evacuation zone to the edge of the University of Nevada, Reno, covering large residential areas and part of U.S. Route 395, though stopping short of downtown. Residents describing the chaos to Fox News and ABC7 as the fire forces them from their homes.
21:03I didn't even pack anything. Took the dog, the dump trailer, and titles to vehicles and left. The power went out. My husband's in Oregon. The smoke was filling in our house. You could smell it, and it was just time for us to go. It's just surreal because you never think that it's going to be you or you're in that situation. And I loaded up all my photo albums from parents and families. I called maybe 20 hotels. I had two hours of sleep. All the hotels were booked within the entire city of Reno. At least six people reportedly injured, including three emergency responders. Multiple homes reportedly damaged or destroyed.
21:45Officials now assessing the full extent of the destruction. Nevada Governor Joe Lombardo declaring a state of emergency in Washoe County, directing state agencies to reinforce the local response and mobilizing the National Guard to assist firefighters and law enforcement. Truckee Meadows Fire and Rescue Chief Richard Edwards Monday on CNN, discussing the investigation into the fire's origin. We do know that it's human-caused because there was no natural ignition sources that are present in the area. It's kind of a more remote area outside of the city center. But the investigators are still working to determine exactly how it was caused, but we are fairly certain it's human-caused.
22:27And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for The MK Show, live on SiriusXM's The Megyn Kelly Channel, 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.
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The Lindsay Clancy trial nears its conclusion after a prosecution witness draws a sharp rebuke from the judge and another prompts the defense to demand a mistrial - The MK True Crime Show co-host Phil Holloway weighs in. Former Disney child star Raquel Lee Bolleau sues the company, alleging it failed to protect her from repeated abuse on a Disney Channel movie set. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent launches a sweeping campaign threatening Iran’s trading partners with sanctions and exclusion from the U.S. financial system. A fast-moving wildfire burns more than 15,000 acres near Reno and forces nearly 90,000 people to evacuate or prepare to leave their homes.
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