Colbert's PAINFUL Goodbye, Lemon's Whining About White Men, and Trump's Hilarious Rant, with Stu Burguiere | Ep. 1322

28:58You get tossed out the door. Every once in a while, CNN would recognize that half the country doesn't agree with their nonstop crazy leftism. And every once in a while, they would say, wait, weren't we supposed to be the people we're not supposed to be msnbc what if we try to at least we're supposed to be boring right not biased yeah exactly and honestly like megan it is boring and it's terrible but there's room for me in the media uh sphere i wish there was a place that did what we're supposed to believe a cnn does like a place that just doesn't have the politics yeah yeah i liked the boring version.

29:37Yeah. And honestly, I think they always leaned left to some degree. But at least I think there was a time at CNN where a good portion of the people who worked there tried. They were leftists and Democrats and stuff, but they would still attempt to do journalism. A lot of that is gone. You know, there's still some good people who work there. You'd have to put on like a serious filter when you watch them talk about politics. But anything outside of politics, you could trust CNN. They actually used to be really good for that. And even the politics were nowhere near as openly biased on CNN as they became under Jeff Zucker and remain to this day.

30:14So yeah, I agree with you. There was a time where CNN was okay and it was tolerable, but that changed. And Don Lemon is one of the main people who changed it toward the worst. He now wants you to think that it's because he was black, I guess, that he got fired by a white man. He hates white men. Okay. He's married to a white man. So I like, I don't understand it. Are they all bad? It's just the one you married. Okay. Is there anybody else who's okay? Like, how about the white men who watch your show? Oh, wait, there are none. Okay. Nevermind. So anyway, he goes on to talk about how, you know, back to himself and how sad he is about how he got fired.

30:59The network didn't like me asking conservatives hard questions. Okay, here's the truth. When Don Lemon got fired, his morning show, remember he got booted from the late night show because it was in the basement when it came to ratings. He was getting absolutely no numbers. Do I have his late night numbers here? I don't know if I have his evening numbers here. Oh, yeah, I do. When he got fired from the late night show or whatever, the primetime show, he was averaging 600 ,000 viewers in the primetime. Okay. He was averaging 150 ,000 in the demo just to give the audience a feel for where that is.

31:35When I left my primetime job at Fox, which was January of 17, we were averaging about 3 million viewers a night. Okay. He was getting 600 ,000 and we had between three and 600 ,000 in the key demo given whatever, any given night, uh, in the news cycle. I actually looked it up. We were averaging 500 ,000 when I left. So we were averaging half a million in the demo. That was what he was getting in the overall. That's why he got fired. That's why they booted him out of late night. He had no numbers. He couldn't put any points on the board. It was pathetic, pathetic. I never even looked at his numbers or anybody's numbers on CNN.

32:10They weren't relevant to me. They weren't even a competitor. It was boring for me to even consider them. Then they moved him to the morning as his promotion. Remember, they tried to spin it as a big promotion to go from a solo primetime position to a three person morning show with Caitlin Collins and Poppy Harlow. And it became the lowest rated program in a decade for CNN. That and then he made his comments about Nikki Haley. And that show, by the way, was averaging about 360 ,000 viewers in the morning. Fox and Friends was averaging 1.2 million. And MSNBC was averaging about a million, just under a million.

32:51Don Lemon, you were fired because you failed. You failed in every role they ever gave to you. Then you became offensive on top of it. Failure and offensive. That's what happened. Okay, like I it's fine. You found a niche. You're making it in the independent lane in a decent way, I have to say. So that's good. That's good for you. But there's no reason to rewrite history here. Your firing had nothing to do with Whitey. It had to do with you and a lack of talent and offensive comments that you made repeatedly and dumb comments. Everyone knew you were dumb, which was one of your major sins, which is not really overcomable.

33:27So I shouldn't hold it against you. In any event, these are the people who remain outraged about Stephen Colbert. Getting his proverbial head chopped off by, I guess, the white men in the C-suites, too. Ah, those evil white men and their vendettas against other white men. That's what happens, I suppose. You know, the other thing you mentioned of him being moved from a show that was completely failing in primetime to the morning show. If I'm not mistaken, that was a Chris Licht move, right? Like, he actually saved Don Lemon and put him in the morning show. Again, he didn't make all good decisions, but that was a terrible one.

34:04He tried not to fire him. He tried not to fire him, which is seemingly the central focus of this entire media organization for years and years and years and years was to figure out a way to not fire Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon. I don't know why they were so dedicated to that cause. It didn't work out all that well. But, you know, you talk about those numbers. You know, gosh, I remember going back when we first started in television, the first major network that I worked in, it was in the building at CNN. We worked for CNN. And at that time, they were trying to say, hey, wait a minute, we've noticed half the country won't ever turn us on.

34:41Maybe we should put a conservative on that little ugly stepchild network that we have, CNN Headline News. And they put on Glenn Beck, and I was working with him at the time. And it was amazing to watch there where, I mean, they had nobody watching that network. I mean, nobody was turning the thing on. But our numbers, when we got on there, were higher than the numbers than you're talking about with Don Lemon. That's embarrassing. That shouldn't happen. You know, there's been other developments in that time period, certainly a rise of digital and other things. But you're basically at the point now where it's just sort of one of those networks.

35:16It's like a prestige play in some executives, you know, portfolio. It's not it's they're not trying to do news or get ratings or make money or anything else. It's just this thing. Everyone kind of remembers CNN as they had this positive view. Gosh, remember when they how they covered the Gulf War? Hey, let's let's keep make sure this is this continues to go on. Remember Larry King? Well, yeah, we remember Larry King, but that was a long time ago. This thing has been dissolved and dissolved and dissolved. They've tried to remake it over and over again. It's like the person who goes in for too much plastic surgery, right?

35:50At some point, you get to that place where this looks nothing like the beautiful person we used to know. It is this, it's just this sort of revolting, weird, uncanny valley of a network. And I don't think it's savable at this point. It's so true. So here's what's happening over on NBC, where Jimmy Fallon was always sort of, I think it's fair to say, the least political of the late night hosts. Seth Meyer is, he's a jerk. I'm just going to say he's such a jerk. He was such an asshole when I was over at NBC. Like I really, I couldn't stand him. I put his wife on because she was pushing some initiative, some charity, and it was a favor.

36:27I was like, sure, okay, I'll put her on. And then like a couple months later, he was out there attacking me at the upfronts where you make your pitch to advertisers. Literally, he was out there like making jokes about what a racist I was. Like, I'm sorry about that. You're just a dick. Like if you do that, like what, who would do that? Like if you don't like me or you think bad things about me, okay, no problem. We don't have to like each other. Why would you ask me to do you a favor and to do a solid for your wife? And then I did it, which was a nice thing for me to do. And then to attack me publicly.

37:00You're such a douche. That's a fucking douche. Sorry for my language. Okay. Anyway, back to Jimmy Fallon, who is far less political than Seth Meyers. or is he? Look where he went. This is Wednesday night. This is last night. This is Jimmy Fallon, who may be starting to think he can fill the shoes of Stephen Colbert. Listen here. Trump had sued the IRS for 10 billion. What a mess. Trump controls the DOJ, told them, make it go my way. So he got immunity. No more audits. OMG. He's so happy. LOL. popping bottles like Kash Patel. DJT says DOJ. Is it illegal? IDK. DJT stops IRS. Is that sketchy? Y-E-S.

37:50Trump says NBD, okay? If FBI is MIA. Trump says, okay, BRB, I gotta watch the UFC. I-R-S-V-D-O-J-S-M-H-I-Y-K-Y-K. N-G-L, it's S-U-S-T-L-D-R-W-T-S. Oh my God, Stu. Oh, my God. That is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. I should have come up with a viewer warning. Yes. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sort of angry at you, honestly, for even showing that. Oh, God. It's like I was recoiling. You know, it kind of hit my OCD in bad ways, too. I disapprove on every level. Yes. There's that weird feeling that you get. There's certain episodes of The Office that make you really, really uncomfortable, like Scott's Tots.

38:37That's the feeling that I had watching that as if I was being tortured. You know, the show that's going to replace, I guess, Colbert is a show called Comics Unleashed, which, you know, from what I understand is, you know, gives comedians like shots that, you know, maybe people didn't know who they were. I work with Dave Landau on my show, Stuart Dave, do America. He's a comedian and he always trade. He traces back the fall of late night, and this is something he puts a lot of thought into, into the Colbert vaccine song sketch. If you remember this one. With the dancing needles. With the dancing needles.

39:13And it was the vaccine, S-C-E-N-E. And they tried to make it into this, hey, this catchy thing. You should take this shot. And it's like it became the exact opposite of what the institution was supposed to be. It was supposed to be something that was pushing back against, you know, the things that, you know, that you were hearing from the government. You're supposed to be this like, you know, this force, you know, pushing against the tides and making fun of everybody. And instead, it was like, you know, you have to embrace the messaging coming from the man. Right. It is the exact opposite. And again, it doesn't matter what you feel about any of these issues.

39:50Honestly, it was it's always it's it's good to have voices and comedic comedic voices have always been the best at doing this. who will just take shots at what we see in Washington and from our authority figures and from our institutions. We should look at them. This is America. We're supposed to look at them kind of like with a side eye and always be suspicious of what everyone's telling us. If you fold and say, hey, everybody, line up to take this medication, whether you like it or not, you're just sending the signal that we've just given in. And that is what they did throughout the Biden presidency.

40:26They couldn't find comedy in Joe freaking Biden for four years. It was the funniest thing anybody ever seen if it wasn't just for our lives all collapsing. We needed the comedians then and they abandoned their duty. No accountability. No. No accountability. Dead teenagers from that damn vax. No accountability. Nothing. Nothing about the glorifying Fauci, who's honestly, I think, a criminal felon liar. Nothing. no no accountability whatsoever we have the vaccine the dancing syringes skit quote unquote don't don't don't show another one no i know i'm sorry he actually did this

41:18it's so bad

41:24vaccine oh my lord this is embarrassing people who work at pfizer

41:38and that's saying something now they're in the audience all those poor audience members had to look like they enjoyed that this is just cruel all right that's enough that's enough i'm subjected to stew to enough here thank you so i know i i like you too much for this too i'm treating you like an enemy here what did i do to you mcg i don't understand i i don't know i guess we'll have to do this one more day because we'll see what ridiculous thing he does tonight may and may or may not comment on it but then that's it i like i'm so over him i don't care he's irrelevant like no leftist even is waking up i think asking themselves what does stephen colbert think he was never that guy.

42:13Rachel Maddow, yes, they rely on her as their queen or did when she was doing more than one hour of television a week. But this guy was never the guy setting the agenda or like the talking points or, you know, offering new ideas or new ways of looking at leftists and leftist candidates and or even right wing candidates at all. He wasn't. So whatever. Fair, farewell. Nothing against him personally, but this is it's too much. He's got to get over himself. Now, I just want to steal one moment, if you don't mind. You mentioned Glenn Beck, who I love. And Glenn, as we both know, is an enormous history buff.

42:51I mean, I don't think there's a topic he loves more than history. And he was so generous. He had on my husband, Doug Brunt, who has just published a new book called The Lost Empire of Emanuel Nobel. And it's all about this guy named Emmanuel Nobel, who was being raised in, well, Sweden and then moved to Russia around the turn of, you know, into the 20th century alongside another kid named Joseph Stalin. And one would become the richest oil baron in the world, and one would become someone who wanted what that first guy had. and the book is doing really well and I just want to tell people because the audience, I had it dug on two days ago.

43:35So the book is doing very well. Thank you to all of you for buying The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel but it's doing very well in the reviews too. Here is something lovely from our friends at Town Hall who wrote this unsolicited. We did not know this was coming and a guy named Arthur Shaper. He writes, straightforward, simple, engaging, informative, all-encompassing. If you are looking for a grand story on modern Russian history, if you're interested in a crash course on the rise of Soviet communism, or if you're simply seeking a good read that connects so much into one great history epic, The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel is the book for you.

44:13And then I'll give you one more. Apple Books has made it the book of the month. Apple's so enamored with Doug's book, it's their pick for the month. And they write, whether you are interested in the ideological clash between capitalism and communism, or you're a fan of fascinating historical deep cuts, The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel is a gripping read. That's Apple. So this is great. You got, not every book can get a review from Town Hall and one from Apple, right? Which are ideologically opposed, but it's not an ideological book. It's just a fun, interesting page turner of a story that actually will leave you knowing a lot more about world history and about the world today.

44:53Because it's like, as Doug was saying the other day, you know, the more things change, the more they remain the same. with the oil turf wars and oil ruling the world and everyone fighting over it and governments fighting over who's going to control it. It's like, and by the way, just such a fascinating background on how communism came to be, which I didn't know before I read it. Okay, so point of personal order there. I appreciate you indulging me on it, Stupor Gear. Oh yeah, I mean, first of all, I can't wait to read this book. I know it just came out, but I'm going to definitely read it. And I think Glenn's level of, understanding of history and the reason why he loves it so much, and I'm sure the reason he wanted to talk to Doug, is because history has that way if we just, you know, we let it go and we don't pay attention to and we don't understand those lessons, we wind up repeating it over and over and over again.

45:46And, you know, look, there's a lot of dark roads. When you're talking about Joseph Stalin, there's a lot of dark roads that we, there's a, I think, an increasing percentage of people who look back at those days. I think we see this a lot of times, even on social media. You look at these people who are protesting outside of events here in America, and they start to embrace the types of worldviews that influenced Joseph Stalin to do all the terrible things that he did. So thank God he wrote this book. We need more people pointing back a bright light at history so we don't wind up going down those dark roads again.

46:21Well, I'll tell you something. I would love it if the audience would buy a copy and you can get one in time for Father's Day, which is June 21st. If you order right now, you'll get it before they sell out because they tend to sell out and then you have to wait. So order it now, Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel, and do it, please, also, because one of the main competitions in nonfiction this month is the Trump-hating Andrew Wiseman, who was at the DOJ and now is an MSNBC contributor. And we can't have that guy make the list and not Doug, who, you know, that's just wrong, who's been a Trump fan, who, unlike his wife, has actually been defending the Iran war.

46:56Doug and I are on different pages when it comes to that. He's a patriot and he's been very good to Trump. So anyway, you got to support Doug Brump, please. I appreciate it. OK, moving on. I there's so much to talk to talk about, but I'll start with Spencer Pratt, because it looks like now Trump may not give him an official endorsement, which I think is probably smart, given that he's not running for, you know, mayor of Houston. He's running for mayor of L.A. And a Trump endorsement could do more harm than good. But Trump is telegraphing how much he likes Spencer Pratt now. And then Spencer Pratt, I think, is leaning in a little bit more.

47:34he had to run as a partisan, like either a Republican or Democrat. So he chose Republican, but he had said early on he was an independent. And now he's leaning a little bit more into his Republican identity, Stu, which is interesting to me, here in SOT 20. Why are you a Republican? Well, you want to break some news here? Sure. It's in my, you know, I've told this before, and this is the only time I've ever said this. So this is breaking news. Everyone's going to freak out. When I was a hated reality star, I got so many death threats. I had so much security and police. And what did they tell me to do?

48:08Get a gun. This is real. I know people don't like guns, but L.A. was dangerous if you're hated. So I got a gun. My wife got a gun. And then we needed CCWs. The only people that supported a CCW was the Republican. That was what I aligned with my safety, my personal safety, my family's safety. I know people don't like guns. But when people are threatening your life and your own security is telling you, you need to have home protection, train to, it's not like just, I went to the, you know, go through the proper steps. That was my, that's it. Amen, brother. I mean, that's how it is too, right? Everybody, not everybody, but a lot of people don't like guns until you need one.

48:52And then they're your best friend in the world. And you're very happy that you trained with them. But if you live in the People's Republic of California or New York, for that matter, they do make it very difficult for you to get one unless and to carry unless you can prove that you have a specific threat, you know, like a stalker, etc. Yeah. So your thoughts on Spencer explaining that rationale? I mean, in front of a California audience, it's an interesting one. I mean, look, I think when you get to a position where your family's life is in danger, you know, people tend to see that Second Amendment as kind of valuable.

49:29And it is. You should be able to protect your family and protect your own life from people who are threatening it. This is something that I do think that almost everybody agrees upon in principle. I mean, I think that, you know, there's a very, I think, core part of progressivism in general, which kind of pushes people to think that everybody else can't handle themselves. Right. We have to be able to help them. You know, when it's me, when it's my family at risk, of course, I should have a gun. We know this with people like Michael Bloomberg, who have armed security. Right. They can afford it.

50:06But it's not like they don't want guns around them. They want to ban you from having a gun because they don't trust you with your own life. They're the educated ones. They're the ones that are your betters, and they're going to help guide you through this world. I think Spencer Pratt, it's a risky territory. I mean, the Trump endorsements in the same way, like obviously that would help him probably raise money. There's a bunch of things that would be beneficial from that. But on the other side, like this is an area that Donald Trump lost 70 to 28 to Kamala Harris, right? So any any thinking of him as a Republican is, you know, it's why he's looking around.

50:42He looks terrified. He's like, my people are going to get on me for this, because reminding them that he's a Republican and not just a guy just speaking common sense and saying, hey, maybe we should let our cities burn to the ground. That's probably his direct path to victory here, if there is one. Yeah, I think it was just honest. I think he was like, I'll tell you the real reason. And I mean, I think a lot of us have been there where you run headfirst into the reality of leftist policy and it can radicalize you. Yeah, I can relate on a number of levels. Stu stays with us, thankfully, but we're gonna take a quick break and we will be right back.

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53:27Stu Bergeer, host of Predictable with Stu, and Stu and Dave do America is back with me now. I forgot there was one other thing I wanted to mention in the Don Lemon sound substack that I didn't get to. Here's the best part. His ending, the ending to it. I was a warning. My arrest was a warning. Colbert's cancellation is a warning. The question is whether anyone is paying attention to what all of these silences have in common. Don't cry for Stephen Colbert. Cry for the First Amendment. Cry for the journalist arrested in Beverly Hills at midnight for covering a protest at a church. Cry for me. Cry for me.

54:06Don't cry for him. He's going to be fine. Cry for me. I love how he refers to himself in the third person. The journalist arrested in Beverly Hills at midnight for covering a protest at a church. Cry for the comedian canceled two days after he criticized the wrong corporation's deal with the wrong president. For every voice that has gone quiet while we debated whether the economics made sense. And then he goes on. They will cancel Colbert. Watch what he builds next. It never works out the way they think it will. And they never learn. Show up. Okay, Don. All right. So he wants you to be crying for him.

54:41Well, we won't. We're not. And back to Spencer Pratt. Here is what Trump said on camera about him that wasn't exactly an endorsement, but again, came close. Sat 21. I'd like to see him do well. He's a character. I don't know. I don't know him. I assume he probably supports me. Does he support me? I think so. I think so. Yeah, I heard he does. I heard he's a big MacGap person. He's doing well. I don't know. You have a rigged vote out there. That's the problem. The votes are rigged. I think he supports me. Does he support me? So that's the president coming close to endorsing, but saying nice things about him.

55:19And then I've got to show you this. A great new ad about Spencer Pratt. Watch.

55:30This mayor race is really heating up. Who are you guys voting for? Haven't decided? Same. Haven't really been following it. Same. Same. Same. I'm not MAGA or anything. But the city's kind of gone to shit though, right? Oh yeah. Jessica stepped on a needle at the playground the other day. I'm not MAGA or anything though. I'm not MAGA or anything, but have you been downtown lately? Looks like an episode of The Walking Dead. Not that I'm MAGA or anything though. Spencer Pratt seems like he has some good ideas. Not that I'm MAGA or anything. He does seem really angry all the time though. Well, they did burn his house down.

56:12Also, apparently he's staying at the Bel Air Hotel, not the trailer on his property. Well, yeah. They burned his house down. Okay, we're all adults here. How about on three, we just say who we're voting for? One, two, three. Spencer Pratt. Yeah. Spencer Pratt. Spencer Pratt.

56:34Can you imagine if our wives knew? It reads, you are not alone. Vote Spencer Pratt. We're all voting for Spencer Pratt, right? Of course. Obviously. I wish I could vote like yesterday. So good. So that was created by, not starred in by, but created by Damalari Zanoiki, who's been on this program. And it's so good. That can happen. That could happen even in L.A. where you're definitely not supposed to be voting for Spencer Pratt. You're not to admit that you like Spencer Pratt. You certainly shouldn't be talking about openly voting for a Republican to run the city. And yet it's in, you know, in the way we saw before Trump's last election, where there were so many crossover votes, I'm sure you are having conversations where people are kind of nosing up to it slightly still, you know, like Spencer Pratt is interesting or fascinating.

57:27He's fascinating. Right. And then seeing whether somebody takes the bait. Yeah. I mean, it's really interesting. I remember those conversations, having those conversations with people in 2016 when they were like, I don't know. I mean, I kind of like what Trump's doing, right? Like that was a thing. And it's the same sort of momentum that seems to be building for Spencer Pratt. It's hard to know whether it's real or if it's just an online phenomenon. I guess we don't know that yet. We'll know eventually. but And it's so central to the possibility of a rise of Spencer Pratt that you have to, by default, do such a terrible job, which is what Karen Bass has done.

58:14This isn't something that can just happen. Like, you know, like a Republican can't get just elected because they're interesting and they run a bunch of ads, right? Like, you have to have your city burned to the ground while you're in Africa, right? You have to watch homeless person after homeless person. Yeah, that really happened. Literally, her city burned down. She wasn't there. She doesn't seem particularly sorry. And they're seriously thinking about reelecting her. Yeah, and she's leading right now. I mean, we talk about prediction markets all the time on my show. She's leading by a large margin.

58:47Spencer Pratt's still only at about a 25-26 % chance of winning that race, according to these markets. And this is after, after I watched Karen Bass. while she's realizing this threat is out there to go out in front of people and talk about how the big problem they have is that meth addicts don't have teeth and that she needs to have full health care for everyone, not so that we can cure meth addiction, but so that we can get nice new choppers on the mouth of meth addicts. So I guess they can bite you more efficiently. I don't know what that... I mean, she's like, no, no, thank you. I'm OK with that.

59:28And this is when she knows she's already got a legitimate challenge here. This isn't, you know, in a period, you know, 12 years ago. I mean, you know, when Barack Obama was running, people were pulling out these clips of him five, six, seven years before the election and saying, look, all these crazy things. And he believes he was smart enough to not say them during the campaign. Most of the time, Karen Bass is still out there just blathering on about this stuff. And, you know, the ads are being run. Some of the best ads running for Spencer Pratt are ads running against Spencer Pratt. When they say, hey, Spencer Pratt is against multiple millions of dollars going to build homes for the homeless, or the unhoused, as they called it in the ad.

1:00:09There is a level, there's a certain thing that can happen in politics, it's pretty rare, where things can get so miserable, even people who are ideologically opposed to a conservative viewpoint can throw their hands up and say, look, we just got to have this. I mean, it happened with Rudy Giuliani in New York years ago, and it could happen here with Spencer Pratt. It would be unbelievable to watch that happen. Today is Thursday, the Thursday before Memorial Day weekend. Sadly, here in the Northeast, it's going to be a complete washout. It's very sad. It's supposed to rain all day, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

1:00:45Well, part of Monday. And that's going to hamper a lot of people's weekend plans. I'm not sure if that's the reason why Donald Trump Sr. isn't really committing to going to the wedding of his son, Donald Trump Jr., which is this weekend. But this soundbite just hit. Look at this.

1:01:07He'd like me to go. It's going to be just a small little private affair and I'm going to try and make it. I'm in the midst. I said, you know, this is not good timing for me. I have a thing called Iran and other things. That's one I can't win on. If I do attend, I get killed. If I don't attend, I get killed. By the fake news, of course, I'm talking about. No, but he's got a very person who I've known for a long time, and hopefully they're going to have a great marriage. Mr. President.

1:01:47he'd like me to be there i'm so busy in his defense it's a second marriage um and reportedly this is out there this is not um i'm not revealing anything it's not already out there but reportedly it's in the bahamas so it's a hike it's not like you know just popping over to mar-a-lago or if they're in D.C., you know, to wherever in D.C. So I don't know. I'm thinking I'd probably go. I know Trump adores his children, but what do you make of that? I mean, look, it's very, very, very Donald Trump, that entire clip. Look, he is president of the United States. I'm sure Donald Trump Jr. would, of course, understand that if there was some big breaking thing, he couldn't be there.

1:02:32But it's funny. I love how he's like, yeah, you know, I hope it's a good marriage. I hope it lasts for a while. The way he thinks about everything going on, there's not necessarily that classic fatherly warmth that you get out of the clip. But, I mean, you do get Donald Trump. And, again, his kids have turned out pretty well here. So he must be doing something right. The thing is, Trump does love his kids and actually is very sweet with his kids. I think he only calls Don Jr. honey. He calls all of his kids honey. I think it's honey. And he's very loving toward them. Some of the behind-the-scenes footage of him with his children is actually quite heartwarming.

1:03:14So he definitely loves his child. He's just busy. I guess when you're president, it's different. I can't imagine missing my child's wedding first or second, but he is busy. There is another funny Trump clip that I have got to show you. So Trump, it is not a mystery to anybody, is obsessed with looks maxing, you might say. He very much appreciates people who are hot. He does. He remarks on it all the time. You know, he's very focused on looks. And let's face it, we're a looks-based society. I focus on people's looks too. He's not alone in that. So he goes to speak at the Coast Guard graduation ceremony yesterday, Stu.

1:03:56and let me play you what he said before I show you what happened next. Sat 10. For the last four straight years, which I think may be an all-time record, congratulations to Thomas Rhodes. Thomas, get up here, please. I want to see. I want to check him out. Oh, he's... We're not going to fight with him. I'm not fighting him. I'm not... This is not UFC. Please understand that, Thomas. Look at this guy. Look at the muscles on this guy.

1:04:43Just hit him on the shoulder. I hurt my hand. It's like hitting a rock. That's great. Thomas, that's fantastic. Okay. Okay. So it's amazing because we've been laughing and sharing behind the scenes on my team, these videos by a guy named Branson Dietz, who, sorry, Gates, who long before this has been taking various Trump clips. It's not a politics thing. It's just a comedy thing. And like mouthing them, he does, he mouths over them with Trump's voice as though he's gay, Like from the perspective of being a gay man. Okay. Let me just, I can't explain it. Just watch. He just, he did this one just now.

1:05:27Watch. I hate good looking men.

1:05:32We also have the only cadet who earned a perfect score on every single fitness says now we're talking fitness. Do you know who this is already? Wow. This guy must be something. I think we'll have to invite him up. I want to check it out. Congratulations to Thomas Rhodes. Thomas, get up here, please. I want to see. I want to check him out. Whoa. Come on. Look at this guy. Look at the muscles in this guy. Just hit him on the shoulder. I hurt my hand. It's like hitting a rock. That's great. Thomas, that's fantastic.

1:06:12Oh, for the podcast listeners, you just see this guy who looks gay, acting kind of gay, doing gay hand movements, if there is such a thing, to that same soundtrack. It's very clever. This is the way in which the internet is used for good, Stu. Yeah, it is. And by the way, going back to our previous conversation, here we are, people who appreciate a lot of the stuff that Trump does. He's, as president of the United States, we like as many of his policies. Here we are laughing, right? Because you can laugh at your own side. They could have laughed at Joe Biden on Colbert. They could have. It's not that we have a problem that you're making fun of Donald Trump.

1:06:51It would be nice if you just did it in a way that prioritized the comedy. Like if you actually cared. Yeah, make me laugh. Make us laugh. It brings us together. That's what the late night shows used to do. If you had a president, if you loved Ronald Reagan, you loved Barack Obama, in theory it would be great that you could go on there You get someone who's criticizing your own side. You laugh at a little bit. I've had a lot of laughs at Donald Trump's expense over the years, and he's had many as well. Republicans are totally ready to laugh. They will laugh at Donald Trump. They'll laugh with him.

1:07:24They'll laugh at him. They're not incapable of doing that. It's just that everything that these late night guys produce is so full of bile that you're not laughing. You're recoiling. I've got one more. He goes by Bran Hatton online. Here's thought 11. There were a number of people who were very, very scared. How worried were you that there were going to be injuries? I wasn't worried. I understand life. We live in a crazy world. I didn't want to see what was happening because I did watch because I could see what was going on at the door. I also saw a lot of very strong, physically strong, really attractive law enforcement people come through those doors.

1:08:14And frankly, it made me feel very safe. Very, very safe. There's nobody going to get by them. The counter assault team that comes in. Yeah, they were very impressive. I think they were very impressive.

1:08:28That's great. I've never seen those clips. He's playing with his necklace. Oh, my gosh. This would be so funny. It's such a funny imagining of Trump. It is funny, too. It is one of those things where you don't really think about the words that he's saying sometimes. He just kind of goes off on these things. That's a great bit. That guy's incredible. I don't know. This guy's on the lookout for anything referencing somebody's appearance. That was after, of course, the latest assassination attempt, which was an odd place to find Trump remarking on the good looks and muscles of the security team. But it's one of those things.

1:09:10I'll bet you, just like every gay man I know has wanted to know whether any personality I anchored with at Fox News was gay. I'll bet you there are a lot of gay men out there who are really hoping there's a chance on Trump because he's strong. he's older now but he's still like you know most a lot of people like a strong man yeah i don't know he's had a pretty high appreciation of uh female beauty over the years so i'm i'd hate to let those these these gentlemen down but i don't think that uh that big announcement's coming now yeah i think it's more about his appreciation for looks than is uh any attraction uh a quick last one here sat 12 look at the muscles of this guy excuse me could you stand up look at that guy You in the beautiful white shirt.

1:09:56Look at this guy. Holy mackerel. I'm looking at him. I always wanted to look like that. I just didn't want to do the work. You look good. Don't let anyone stop you. You look good.

1:10:14Those are incredible. So funny, right? He's so good. I'm really into this guy. Behind the scenes, we've been laughing about this for a long time. Okay, let's keep going. Hollywood remains woke as ever, unfortunately. Just when you think like they've learned their lesson, they prove that you are wrong. And I think you guys have talked about this on your show, but The Odyssey. Now, first of all, who decided it would be a good idea to make a movie out of the book no one wanted to read and no one enjoyed in high school, right? Like The Odyssey was like, it's like a doorstopper book that you were like, when will it end?

1:10:50Good gracious. it went on forever it was so boring that's what i remember about the odyssey like who's like homer that's a good idea anyway they're doing it and um they're hold on a second i'm trying to find my my packet on this standby um the guy who produced um oppenheimer is putting this together christopher Nolan. And instead of, for example, having a white woman play Helen of Troy, said to, you know, mythologically be the most beautiful woman in the world and described as extremely white in the book, it mentions that she's white armed and or pale armed. And there are other references. it's played by, it's going to be played by a black woman, uh, by Lupita Nyong 'o.

1:11:47Okay. So at Matt Walsh, you know, he kind of put it better than I could, but he writes, not one person on the planet actually thinks that Lupita Nyong 'o is the most beautiful woman in the world. But Christopher Nolan thinks he knows that he would be called racist if he gave the most beautiful woman role to a white woman. Nolan is technically talented, he says, but a coward, Too afraid to do anything other, anything that even slightly challenges the spirit of the age. We're told we should not object to Helen of Troy being portrayed by a black woman. And yet if a major Hollywood studio made a film set in Africa and cast a white woman as the most beautiful woman in Africa, those same people would literally riot in the streets.

1:12:31He's 100 percent right. And it's not just the role of Helen of Troy. Nyong 'o also plays Helen of Troy's sister from the novel. And in addition to that, you've got Elliot Page. Hello, Ellen Page, who's masquerading very badly, by the way, as a male these days, who's going to be cast in it reportedly as Achilles, who's male. Again, the character is male, and they've chosen a fake male who's not in any way heroic. And Achilles is a tragic Greek hero who Odysseus meets in the underworld. Odysseus is played by Matt Damon. So you've got Elliot Page in there. And then you've got Travis Scott, who I think is the father of one of the Kardashian babies and a singer, is going to be in the movie as well as a professional poet, singer, and storyteller.

1:13:35I don't know why, but we both know that Hollywood has these diversity rules now that lead to all sorts of weird and inappropriate casting decisions. And Christopher Nolan is hashtag part of the problem still. Yeah, it's a very strange story. I mean, you know, I get, granted, these are mythological figures, right? I mean, you know, it's not like it. And we wouldn't put this past Hollywood where they have done this and they've taken actual, you know, African-American actors and put them in the role of real historical figures who were white. I mean, you know, that's even more offensive to me than this.

1:14:11But again, you know, I look at this and I say, you know, you're trying to tell the story. There's no reason to do this. And you would, as you point out, never do it the opposite way. I was looking back at this. I think it's been about 20 some odd years since something like this happened, right? Where the opposite occurred, where you put a white person in a role of an African-American. You can't do that. You can't do that. And, you know, look, it did happen for a real long time. That was a real thing that happened in our history going back a long ways. I don't think it's something that we want to come back, having some sort of historical accuracy.

1:14:49And again, while it is a mythology, they do say the pale arms thing is in there, right? Like there is a description. So it would make sense. We saw this with Snow White, right? Where you're like, wait a minute, White is in the title? You know, you'd think that they would do this. Yes. And then you have the sad, sad story of Ellen Page, who I think actually was great. Like when she was, I mean, Juno is a great movie. I love Juno. I stand by that movie. I think it's a great movie. She was pretty, too. Very pretty. And I honestly think that whole movie, that particular movie, Juno, which wound up being viewed positively by pro-life people like me, really screwed with her head, honestly.

1:15:30Ever since that happened, she's been on this constant tour to prove she swears that she doesn't actually like people who are pro-life or something. There's been this kind of retribution against what people wound up perceiving her as after that movie. And again, she's an actress. Again, I didn't think that she agreed with me on that issue. They just put a somewhat positive light on 50 % of the country for an hour and a half. And just that was seemingly enough to throw her into this spiral that winds up her being Elliot and playing some role in this movie. Which I don't know if it's Achilles. I've heard that maybe it's not.

1:16:08Maybe it's another role. But whatever it is, if she's credited as Elliot, she's already playing a role before the movie begins. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's sad to me. What's happened to Ellen Page is sad to me. I mean, she was this pretty and very talented actress who America fell in love with in that movie. And she's obviously very unwell. I mean, that's what's true. She's obviously very unwell to have done this to herself. And we're supposed to celebrate this. she she poses like proudly with her scarred chest showing where her breasts used to be and we're supposed to celebrate her and we're actually supposed to buy the lie that she's a man this is like you know they just there's been a big debate on the left about whether they should release the dnc should release this autopsy report about why it lost the 2024 election which is like okay i mean i don't care whether they do or they don't i mean i know why they lost the election.

1:17:04There are a lot of reasons. Number one is Kamala Harris sucks. But really above that is their far left insanity. You know, they're chopping off the body parts of healthy children. OK, how's that? I've summed it up for you. You don't need to see your autopsy. But it is now they've released it, I guess. This guy who's running the DNC who nobody knows about. What's his name? Ken Martin. He, while under pressure from the guys at Pod Save and elsewhere, finally said, okay, I'll release it. It seems to be rather boring based on what I've seen. I've just read a summary. But one of the things they do point out in the summary is the trans stuff.

1:17:43And in particular, they point to that transgender-focused ad that Trump released. Kamala's for they, them. Trump is for you, remember? And it pointed out that she wanted to pay for the sex change operations of prisoners in California, which was a real thing. And like Elliot, whether it's Elliot Page in Hollywood doing this and forcing this character on us as a male, as like someone who's supposed to be like a badass male in folklore or it's Kamala Harris trying to make us get involved in actually pay for chopping people's healthy body parts off so they can pretend there's something they're not.

1:18:24But this is what this is why Republicans have still at least a shot in the midterms still. You know, it's like they've been quiet. The Democrats have been smart, very, very uncharacteristically smart over the past four months. They've kept their mouths shut and let Trump twist in the wind over the Iran war in the economy where he remains. Because the latest polls out of from Fox News are dreadful for Trump and the Republicans. but this kind of thing does remind us of what's behind the other curtain and it's no good yeah no you're totally right i mean really what they need to do is just get out of the way if they get out of the way of themselves and allow nature to take course in the midterms likely they're gonna win not because of anything magical that they have on their own but because history a year election after election after election in the midterm the party in power when it comes to the president of the united states almost always loses seats outside of massively uh outlier type situations like you know 9 11 right it's very difficult we did a thing on this on on my show predictable where you go back and you look through history and it's something like nine percent of the time nine percent of the time you're able to defend the house going back a century it's incredibly difficult to do then add on to that that we are looking at four and five than$6 gas around the country right now.

1:19:47You have a very unpopular situation in Iran. This isn't something that is testing well at all. You have economic problems. You have even, you know, you look at the core of who moved toward Trump in 2024. A lot of those gains happened among Hispanic voters who have been kind of turned off as some of the policies of this particular run for trump and you know all that adding up this should be just cake frankly for uh democrats they honestly if they just don't yell out things like you defund the police and that boy is actually a girl because of a series of magic words we've contrived if they can stay away from that stuff trans men are women trans men are women they should be playing they should be uh wrestling against your daughter and throwing them to the ground and spiking volleyballs into their heads These are not difficult policies to stay away from.

1:20:41An open border is humane. Right. You don't need to do a lot. Again, go back to Los Angeles. Just don't burn down the city and you win. That's how easy this is. But they can't even stay out of their way that much. And because of, you know, we were, you look at the prediction markets, we had the Democrats rise from about 58 % before November's election all the way up to about 85%. That has now drizzled down a little bit to 72, 73 percent, largely because a lot of these rulings when it comes to the redistricting offerings of Virginia getting overturned, the Supreme Court case that has the southern states now redistricting and getting rid of some of these majority minority districts.

1:21:23all that boring stuff aside, it is giving the Republicans now a chance that if they can turn around some of these things that are affecting real people when it comes to the economy, when it comes to gas prices, when it comes to them seeing a vision of a war that might not be ending for years and years and years and years, that type of stuff, if they can cure that, and there's a small window for it here in the next few months, they can turn that around and put it behind them. People could see things going in the right direction. There actually is an opportunity here only because Donald Trump is based, is blessed with the dumbest enemies possible, right?

1:21:58It is really something he has. And if they just continue to do the stupid things that they continue to do, there is an opportunity. There's a small window. It's not going to be easy for Republicans, but it does exist. They're going to need it. They're going to need to be reminded of what is over on Team Blue, because honestly, like these Fox News polls are so bad, Stu. Horrible. And the audience should know, I know the Fox News polling unit very well. I've worked with them for years. Even though it's Fox, which leans right, the polling unit is independent. They don't lean right. So if there's ever like a good poll for Trump, the left will say, oh, well, it's Fox News.

1:22:39And no, that's not how it works. They play it straight down the middle. So this one will be no better or worse for Trump than any other outlet there. In fact, Fox polls tend to be, in my experience, the best polls. I trust the Fox polls implicitly. But what they're showing is that he now has an approval rating of 39%. It's down three points since last month. It's one point above Trump's lowest number ever, which was October 2017. So his lowest ever is 38. Fox News is showing him at 39 % approval. His net approval on the key issues shows on inflation, he's underwater with the voters by 52 points.

1:23:19By 52, he's negative 52 on inflation. He's negative 42 on the economy. He's negative 24 on foreign policy. They don't like the China summit. He's underwater there, not minus eight. He's underwater on immigration, minus eight. He's even underwater on border security, minus two. So he's underwater with white non-college men who he was plus 17 with last March, March a year ago, 25. Now he's down minus eight in the Fox News poll, which is a 25 point swing to the negative with white non-college men. That's Trump's base. His approval is at an all time low amongst Republicans. It's at 80 percent, but that's an all time low.

1:24:04and non-MAGA Republicans, people who are now calling themselves America first because Trump says MAGA means you love Mark Levin and many of us don't, that's an approval rating of just 54%. So these are bad. And I've got to play the soundbite for you of a woman named Janet, who's an MK show listener, Stu. And after we do the show live on SiriusXM 12 to 2, as you know, because you're here doing it with me right now, Monday through Friday. and then we release it as a podcast and a YouTube show. But after our show on SiriusXM, Emily Jashinsky hosts an hour of, we call it the wrap-up show. And a lot of the audience will call in.

1:24:44I actually love listening to it. Like if I leave and I can get to the radio, I always turn it on and I love listening to the audience. And some of them rip on me and some of them agree with me, but I love them all. And this particular day, a woman named Janet from Long Island called. This is just Monday. And listen to what she said. Actually, it's made some news, this woman's call. Take a listen. Heading now to Janet in Long Island. You're on the Megyn Kelly Wrap-Up Show. What's on your mind? I'm feel abandoned. I'm a Trump diehard. I'm 68, my husband's 69. We're never going to stop working. He's a contract electrician.

1:25:19We built our house. We're going to have to move out of Dix Hills because the taxes are$16 ,000. I don't want to quit working because Medicare is too much money. So I get benefits where I work. He has abandoned the middle class. He has to show us that all those people on barstools across America, you know, hardworking construction guys, plumbers, the people that stood up to him when it wasn't popular to stand up for him. He needs to help us, give us back, black tax, anything. Just make our life easier. I feel like he's listening to the wrong people. And, yeah, when he started that war, I didn't sign up for it.

1:25:55When I had my first boy, I'm a girl. I'm one of five girls. And when I had my son, the first thing I popped my head up and said, oh, my God, he could be drafted. I don't want my children or my friend's children dying in a war that has nothing to do with us. That's very powerful. And by the way, thank you for calling in, Janet, and sharing that. And I think, Stu, he's going to have to address Janet's concerns and the millions of voters who are feeling the same, who are triple Trump voters. if he wants his party to turn its fortunes around in these November midterms, which right now do not look good.

1:26:33No, they don't look good. And while there's been some maybe beneficial movement when it comes to the redistricting thing, that's not enough. You can't win. Even if things were going pretty well, it would be hard for them to win. They come in with a two, three-seat majority, right? Just minor, minor losses is going to mean the House goes away. The Senate is at risk, certainly. I mean, I think most places see it as like a 50-50 proposition as the Democrats get it when the Senate should not have been. The way the Senate is set up, the Republicans should be heavily favored. I mean, there should be an 80 or 90 percent chance of them winning.

1:27:11And the fact that it's 50-50, it's because of people like Janet. Or I'm sorry to put it so frankly, or your child has a chance of turning into an Elliott Page. Like, truly, this can't happen. Like, the Democrat Party is the one pushing this trans madness on us, open border madness on us. The only one who's abandoned that is Rahm Emanuel on the Democrat side. Gavin Newsom wants an open border. So does Kamala Harris. She's reportedly running again. I haven't seen one other Democrat say no, that they would keep Trump's border the way it is. The risks are extremely high in stacking, in particular, the Senate with more Dems.

1:27:43Sorry to interrupt. Keep going. No, no. It's true, though. I mean, I think there is a one of the things that I think hits hard about the trans issue in particular is not necessarily about trans issues. I honestly would argue that most Americans really don't want to think about it. You know, we understand that people go through things and there's difficult things they're dealing with. And honestly, like I got enough stuff going on in my own life. I don't really want to think about what you're doing with with your with your reproductive organs. frankly i i think the average american is like i just want to look the other way and move on with my life and get to the restaurant or whatever i'm doing um but what where that hit i think centrally to people as a as a campaign issue is that it hit at a very fundamental thing that we need which is truth we must have we must be able to agree that when a person is born a man or a boy and they grow up and they become a man they can't with a series of magical words they can't say abracadabra or beetlejuice a certain amount of times to change their gender we all understand everybody including those people on the left that embrace those policies and go on television and act like they believe them none of them believe that is a true thing none of them believe that is possible but they say it anyway and that feels like people have abandoned the fundamental precept of america right that we're going to be here we're common sense people and we're going to go forward and we're going to just say the things that are true.

1:29:13And all of that is really, really important and it is a core issue. But typically what happens when it comes to elections, and I would say even more central with off-year elections and midterms, is that if they are getting hit in the face constantly with issues that are affecting them more, the trans issue is really important because it hits at truth. But most people aren't interacting with those issues on a day-to-day basis. Some are, and they're really important to talk about. Janet's worried about her wallet. She's worried about her wallet. Paying her bills. Her kids or grandkids, right? That's what they care about.

1:29:49And in the absence of those issues, a lot of times people will be able to focus on other important things. When those things slap you in the face, the ideology goes out of the window, honestly, with a lot of people. Even if they believe in a lot of the things that Donald Trump cares about, They believe that he is doing a good job on a good portion. And I think there is a good portion to argue on his behalf from this presidency. If this stuff happens and the result of it is we have a president who is basically trying to convince people that their economic situation is better than it is. Hey, you should recognize we actually are in the golden age of America.

1:30:26I mean, Trump has made these arguments very recently. We've done it. We're there. We've solved these problems. That's what Joe Biden tried to do. with Bidenomics, right? He tried to say Bidenomics is working and the American people said, no, it's not. We're the ones dealing with it and we're saying no. There is an opening here, but it is, we're almost to summer here, Megan. You know, the concept of turning this around is evaporating. Let me tell you what happens too. Let me tell you what happens in the summer as somebody who's been in news for 24 years. In the summer, everybody's numbers go down.

1:31:01People kind of turn off the news. please continue listening to the Megyn Kelly show, and also predictable with Stu. But in general, they always go like softer in the summer because people are out living their lives. They're outside. They're enjoying themselves. They have time off. That is not a great time for Trump to then burst onto the scene with new messaging because people aren't going to hear it. Nowhere near the number he needs are going to hear it. Now they come back in the fall, so he'll have that time. But now we're really talking about a crunch timeline. People go back to school the beginning of September.

1:31:35So now you have 60 days until the midterms. It's not a lot of time. So like he needs to be laser-like focused on not just talking about their economic problems now, but actually fixing them, you know? Because the messaging he's been saying lately that what I heard him this week was saying was, the market, the market's doing so well. That no one cares about that. That's something rich people care about. You know, it's like the market is sort of a luxury belief. You might have some 401k money in there, but that's something you're trying not to tap into when you're younger and not yet retired. It definitely isn't going to help you with your grocery bills or your, you know, tuition bill or your hope for a vacation this year.

1:32:19You know, like they need immediate relief on in particular inflation, which he's minus 52 on that in particular. And honestly, like that's directly tied to the Iran war and the increased oil prices and energy prices, which are driving everything up from gas prices to groceries. So there's the honest truth. That's where it is. All right, stand by. We got to take a break. But we come back and we have more with Stu Breguier right after this. Let's talk about an uncomfortable reality. What happens financially to our loved ones once we are no longer here? We put off thinking about it for obvious reasons, but the best thing we can do for our family is to ensure that they are not left with a financial burden of mortgage, tuition, medical bills, all of it.

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1:36:34Stu Bergeer is back with me now. Stu, there is a very disturbing legal case out of the UK right now, which is one of those cases that speaks volumes about where a society is. And our friends across the pond need help. They've just lost their way over there. They are so obsessed with identity politics. They hate white people. They've surrendered their culture to an influx of people from some very problematic countries who are now objecting to the British flag flying at all as somehow an act of aggression. We've shown the audience the videos. And now this. There was a young man named Henry Nowak.

1:37:19He was 18 years old and in his first year of college studying accounting. In December of 2023, he was walking home from a night out with friends and he had been drinking but was still at the place where he could drive legally. He did not have a high blood alcohol content. He ran into a man named Vikram Digwa, who's Sikh, who's 23 years old, so five years older than Henry. This guy, Vikram, was carrying an eight-inch long knife and along with something called a kirpan, which is a ceremonial blade. Now, in the UK, you're not allowed to carry certain knives in public unless it's a religious exemption.

1:38:08And this kind of knife is permitted under one of those exemptions. So you can see this is the type of knife that we're showing on the board, not the actual. But my God, look at it. I mean, it's amazing that this thing is legal to carry around. It looks like a long curved dagger that you would not want to find anywhere near you. So these two ran into each other and Nowak, Henry, managed to record a video on his phone. We don't have any of the elements because they haven't released them, but it shows that Henry was speaking to friends on Snapchat when he came across Vikram Digwa. They did exchange words.

1:38:48Henry is heard saying, in it bad man, what bad man? You're a bad man. Say you're a bad man. go on. And Digwa responded, I am a bad man. Henry Nowak replied, are you a B before the footage cuts off? So we don't know what he was saying there. What we do know is shortly after that, police were called to the scene. They placed Henry Nowak under arrest and Digwa claimed that he'd been racially abused by Henry, which we understand is why Henry was placed under arrest. The brother of Digwa said, we've just been attacked by someone racially. We got attacked racially by some white person. The brother said, they physically attacked my brother.

1:39:42We're Sikhs. We wear turbans and he attacked my brother. The police arrived. Their body cam footage was shown in court. They're trying to place Henry Nowak under arrest as he says to the officers, I've been stabbed. I've been stabbed. I can't breathe. They put the handcuffs on him. He was now lying down on his side, telling the officers, I've been stabbed. I can't breathe. They didn't believe him. The officer told Henry he was under arrest for suspicion of assault because that's what Digwa and the brother were saying. Nowak repeated, I've been stabbed. I've been stabbed. A male voice believed to belong to the police officer said, I don't think you have, mate.

1:40:30The prosecutor alleges that Digwa did not seek help for the man, did not step in to say to the police, he has indeed been stabbed by me. He knew he had stabbed Henry. Henry was telling the truth, and he had stabbed him in the lung. And the man, as he laid dying, was saying, I can't breathe, because he'd been stabbed in the lung. The cops did not believe him, and his assailant, who was claiming to be the victim of, quote, a racial assault, of which there is zero evidence, stood there and watched him die. After Noack collapsed, the police started rendering aid. Digwa's mother is also under arrest, by the way, and on trial because she removed the murder weapon from the scene and then hit it at her home where police later recovered it.

1:41:33The defendant was interviewed by police five times. He refused to answer any questions. Instead, he submitted a statement in which he said he was walking toward his brother's car when Nowak, who he said was intoxicated, came at me and racially and physically abused me. He claimed he was petrified and pulled out his phone to record his attack. And yet what we have here is that the victim's phone was found on Digwa. He took Henry's phone and he didn't help Henry. He let him die as the police didn't believe this kid who happened to be white was dying of injuries from that knife stuck into his lung.

1:42:12This is so horrific. Elon Musk is now promising to pay for the legal fees if Henry's family wants to file a wrongful death lawsuit against the police who did not believe him, you know, as he lay dying. And what's clearly going on here, I believe, is identity politics did not allow the police to understand that there could be a true dynamic in which the white boy was the victim and the dark skinned man was the assailant and that the claims of racial attacks were apparently untrue. Your thoughts on it? That's an unbelievable story. You know, this is the stuff that shouldn't be happening. I mean, I think we could all rewind back 50 or 100 years and think to ourselves, you could see a situation where the opposite would happen, right?

1:43:03Where maybe a time where we were doing things the wrong way and everyone can now acknowledge that where maybe, and this has happened, there are stories of this, where white people would claim they were being attacked by a black person and the police would show up and they would just, you know, assume the black person was the bad one in that action. And I kind of thought we all agreed that was the wrong way to do things. That pick, you know, deciding these incidents based on skin color was the wrong approach. And for whatever reason, the left wants to bring that back in Europe and in England and all over that entire vicinity.

1:43:39That seems to be even farther along than we are here. But we're on that same road. Suck that stuff out. Stop thinking about identity. Stop thinking about whether someone is take gender and take take skin color and all these factors out. These immutable characteristics should not be the story. And over and over again, the left and the media wants to make it the story. It's the wrong way to go. The colorblind society was right. We got something right. We should we continue to go after that ideal, even though it is difficult for human beings to achieve it. Well said. Great to see you, Stu. Everybody check out Stu over on Predictable, and we will be back tomorrow with Kelly's Court.

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