Creep Swalwell Floodgates Open with NEW Accusers, and Sydney Sweeney's Shock Baby Scene, with Ruthless and Steve Hilton | Ep. 1295

14 Apr 2026 · 1 h 42 min · 42 chapters

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In short

The show discusses Eric Swalwell’s rapid political collapse amid allegations of sexual misconduct, including new accusers coming forward, and the impact on California’s governor race. It also reacts to a controversial Euphoria scene featuring Sydney Sweeney.

Guests

Steve Hilton (Republican California gubernatorial candidate; former UK/US political commentator; campaign front-runner in the episode’s framing) and “Ruthless” hosts Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook (political commentary program).

Key claims

Swalwell’s resignation from Congress and withdrawal from the governor race are portrayed as the result of escalating allegations and “new accusers.” The hosts argue Democratic leadership (including Nancy Pelosi) “knew” or ignored warning signs, and that media coverage only intensified once Swalwell became a political liability. Hilton argues the Democratic establishment’s hypocrisy and California’s one-party rule drove voter backlash, and that Republican consolidation after Swalwell’s exit improves his chances.

Notable examples

Annika Albrecht (CBS) alleges Swalwell messaged her while she was in college, added her on Snapchat, and invited her to a hotel; Ali Samarco (CBS/CNN context) alleges Swalwell escalated from flirtation to explicit messages, including sending a photo of his penis from a hotel. The “Ruthless” segment also references a widely circulated video allegedly showing Swalwell with a sex worker, and claims it was ignored until he became electorally threatening.

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Introduction to AI in Enterprise

0:00 to 0:53

Learn about the capabilities of AI in enterprise environments.

“Is it possible for AI to work in the enterprise?”

Controversial Scene in Euphoria

1:15 to 1:46

Discussion on a shocking scene from Euphoria featuring Sidney Sweeney.

“The fellas from Ruthless will be here in just a bit with the latest on Trump's feud with the Pope, plus a controversial scene involving Sidney Sweeney from the season premiere of the hit HBO show Euphoria.”

Eric Swalwell's Downfall

1:46 to 2:39

Analysis of the allegations leading to Eric Swalwell's resignation.

“And it says a lot about the creator of this show.”

New Accusations Against Swalwell

2:39 to 3:21

Details about new accusers coming forward against Swalwell.

“That was a question we and many others had been asking.”

Annika Albrecht's Experience

3:21 to 4:25

A new accuser shares her inappropriate interactions with Swalwell.

“But there was a woman on CBS this morning who seems honestly like she handled this very well.”

Pamela Anderson's Cautionary Tale

4:25 to 6:36

Reflection on Pamela Anderson's principles regarding meetings with powerful men.

“She says Swalwell created a group chat with all the students and then added her as a friend on the messaging app Snapchat.”

Ali Samarco's Story

6:36 to 8:00

Ali Samarco's account of her interactions with Swalwell reveals troubling behavior.

“We also heard this morning from Ali Samarco.”

Advice for Men on Intimacy

8:00 to 8:53

Discussion on what women find appealing versus unsolicited explicit images.

“no woman wants that women don't work the same way men do when it comes to getting turned on all right you maybe send a picture of your bicep or depending on your situation your wallet it.”

Implications for California's Gubernatorial Race

8:53 to 11:10

Analysis of how Swalwell's exit affects the upcoming gubernatorial race.

“Okay, so there's some free advice for you.”

Steve Hilton's Insights on Swalwell's Scandal

11:35 to 14:00

Steve Hilton discusses the implications of Swalwell's actions on politics.

“And listen, if you currently do not have all your policies in one place, you got this broker and that broker and this policy, they will help you with that too.”
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Examining Swalwell's Political Fallout

14:00 to 15:10

The hosts discuss the implications of Eric Swalwell's controversies on California politics.

“They've got so arrogant, they're so out of touch with regular people.”

Nancy Pelosi's Involvement in Swalwell's Scandal

15:10 to 17:00

The conversation shifts to Nancy Pelosi's awareness and handling of Swalwell's issues.

“Yeah, I mean, you've been the front runner since the beginning.”

Swalwell's Campaign and Personal Issues

17:00 to 19:20

The hosts analyze Swalwell's living situation and campaign finance controversies.

“By the end of the day, we could have maybe a dozen.”

Democratic Tactics and Political Strategy

19:20 to 21:40

Discussion about the Democrats' strategies to manage Swalwell's political fallout.

“The California Post did some great reporting there, talked to all the neighbours.”

California's Political Landscape and Gavin Newsom

21:40 to 24:30

Analysis of California's current political climate and Gavin Newsom's role.

“I mean, look, they this is the arrogance again.”

Implications for Upcoming Elections

24:30 to 27:30

The hosts evaluate the potential outcomes of the upcoming primary and general elections in California.

“That's why we have the highest taxes in the country for the worst results.”

California Republican Strategies for the Upcoming Election

28:06 to 32:51

Learn about the strategies California Republicans plan to employ to enhance voter turnout and their chances in the upcoming election.

“It's very important that Republicans understand that this idea of having two Republicans in the top two, if it was ever realistic, it's gone.”

California Republican Strategies for the Upcoming Election

33:06 to 33:54

Learn about the strategies California Republicans plan to employ to enhance voter turnout and their chances in the upcoming election.

“Credit cards can keep your payments secure and provide rewards that families use to help make everyday purchases more affordable.”

Ruthless Crew Reacts to Eric Swalwell's Scandal

35:24 to 42:05

Dive into the Ruthless crew's analysis of Eric Swalwell's recent controversies and the implications for Democratic politics.

“Joining me now are pals Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook, the fellas from the Ruthless program.”

Media's Double Standards on Eric Swalwell

42:05 to 45:01

Exploration of the media's inconsistent coverage of Eric Swalwell's controversies compared to Republican figures.

“One thing that we know about the mainstream media is that they only attack a Democrat if it's in service of a second Democrat.”

The Democratic Party's Defense Mechanisms

45:01 to 48:50

Discussion on how the Democratic Party manages its members and allegations against them, especially Swalwell.

“We played a great clip on our show this morning of him during the Kavanaugh era.”

Katie Porter's Controversial Past

48:50 to 52:56

Analysis of Katie Porter's temper and media coverage surrounding her controversial divorce filings.

“take hold in the mainstream media until he presented a liability to the Democratic Party.”

Katie Porter's Controversial Past

53:10 to 54:04

Analysis of Katie Porter's temper and media coverage surrounding her controversial divorce filings.

“America can still be a dangerous place and you cannot afford to wait for help when you need it.”

Katie Porter's Controversial Past

54:07 to 54:17

Analysis of Katie Porter's temper and media coverage surrounding her controversial divorce filings.

“That's B-Y-R-N-A.com or your local sportsman's warehouse.”

Eric Swalwell's Allegations Unfold

56:43 to 59:04

Discussion on the allegations against Eric Swalwell and the implications.

“That we're going to lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems.”

Lana Drews Accuses Swalwell

59:04 to 1:03:09

Details of Lana Drews' serious allegations against Eric Swalwell.

“I said to my team, let me guess with Gloria Allred.”

Comparing Political Responses

1:03:09 to 1:05:45

Discussion on the differing responses to Swalwell's and Gonzalez's allegations.

“It's one thing if he's just like a pervert, and it's quite another if this is some sort of a date rape, serial rapist.”

The Nature of Congressional Accountability

1:05:45 to 1:09:27

Debate on the implications of the allegations for Congress and its members.

“But he's now being forced to resign early because he had an affair with a junior staffer who was married and he was married with six children and he was sending her inappropriate texts.”

Media's Role in Political Scandals

1:09:27 to 1:10:00

Discussion on media coverage and its impact on political accountability.

“Well, yeah, Megan, I mean, the thing that makes me a little bit uncomfortable in this whole thing is, you know, this is the United States Congress.”

Political Dynamics and Media Coverage

1:10:00 to 1:12:08

Explore how political stories are handled by the media and the implications for justice.

“And I don't like entering into that political sphere.”

Congressional Culture and Personal Experiences

1:12:08 to 1:14:18

Discuss the culture within Congress and personal anecdotes related to political events.

“But you hear about this from time to time and either it's totally untrue or the 20 years that I spent in and around Capitol Hill were a charmed existence.”

Accusations and Accountability

1:14:18 to 1:16:42

Examine the implications of multiple accusations within political and public figures.

“Maybe I'm being a Pollyanna about the law.”

Sidney Sweeney's Controversial Role

1:16:42 to 1:18:30

Analyze the troubling portrayal of characters in Euphoria and its societal implications.

“the odds of getting accused by like a dozen people of the same exact thing and there being no truth, like that just, that's a bridge too far.”

Hollywood's Moral Boundaries

1:18:30 to 1:23:46

Debate the ethical boundaries in Hollywood productions and their impact on audiences.

“Can we talk about Sidney Sweeney for a second?”

Lena Dunham's Body Image Discussion

1:23:46 to 1:24:06

Explore Lena Dunham's reflections on body image and societal empathy.

“She's gained a lot of weight and she's not afraid to discuss it.”

Empathy and Body Image in Media

1:24:06 to 1:25:58

Discussion on body image, empathy, and the societal pressures faced by women.

“That's not what my body looks like anymore, but it was, I was like full of light.”

Lena Dunham's Controversial Past

1:25:59 to 1:27:46

Analysis of Lena Dunham's comments on objectification and her past portrayal in 'Girls'.

“I watched a little of this show when it hit and my poor husband Doug was dragged along for the ride.”

Lizzo's Performance and Public Reaction

1:27:47 to 1:30:08

Review of Lizzo's recent Coachella performance and its reception.

“You know, she – and the thing is, back then, she was kind of known as being a little chubby.”

Cultural Shifts in Entertainment

1:30:09 to 1:34:28

Discussion on how entertainment has shifted from talent to exhibitionism.

“And the reason I'm raising that is because Lizzo has decided to appear at Coachella recently.”

Marketing and Shock Value

1:34:29 to 1:37:08

Exploration of how shock value is used in marketing and media today.

“And it's not something to be celebrated.”

Critique of Meghan Markle's Publicity Stunts

1:38:03 to 1:41:58

Learn about the hosts' views on Meghan Markle's recent actions and publicity efforts.

“It's never been done in the history of broadcasting, and it won't be done here.”

Discussion on Eric Swalwell's Controversies

1:41:58 to 1:44:54

The hosts discuss Eric Swalwell's personal scandals and public statements.

“So she shows up after the children's cancer hospital.”
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1:12Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. The fellas from Ruthless will be here in just a bit with the latest on Trump's feud with the Pope, plus a controversial scene involving Sidney Sweeney from the season premiere of the hit HBO show Euphoria. They have her dressed as a sexy infant. That's sick. That's beyond effed up. There should be absolutely no such thing in modern America, cinnamon, big cinema, big screen or small screen. It's disgusting. And it says a lot about the creator of this show. We'll get into it. And there is a disturbing photo that they're using to promote it.

1:56First, though, the latest with the dramatic and swift downfall of Eric Swalwell. Yesterday, we did a deep dive on all the allegations against him. You should listen to that. It's the second hour of the show. And we've gotten a lot of very positive feedback on it because it goes through each woman's account and exactly what she's alleged, what their patterns are, and, you know, what the arguments are on his behalf. and, of course, obviously on the women's. We told you that the Democrat congressman had dropped out of the race to be California's next governor amid sexual misconduct allegations. And if you want to know what he's really been accused of, you go back and listen to that.

2:33Since then, though, the pressure only increased on Swalwell, and he announced last night he's also resigning from his seat in Congress. That was a question we and many others had been asking. Why is he fit to be a U.S. House member but not California governor? In about 30 minutes, we are expecting a press conference where a new accuser is set to reveal more about what Swalwell allegedly did to her. We don't know whether this is somebody who's been represented in the CBS piece at all. That's really the one CNN piece, I should say. And CBS did a piece this morning in which we had two accusers speaking out for the first time.

3:10So we're getting they're coming out of the woodwork and we're keeping our finger on the pulse so that we can figure out what the narrative is. and make sure we're not having duplicates here that were reported as new accusers. But there was a woman on CBS this morning who seems honestly like she handled this very well. Her name is Annika Albrecht. And she says Swalwell began sending her inappropriate messages. I think while she was still in, was it college, right? Still was sending her inappropriate messages. While she was still in college after they had a group event with him as like their congressman.

3:48And then an individual message popped up from him to her after the event. And ultimately, he invited her to meet him at a hotel. Annika Albrecht was still in college when she says she got what she thought was a big break. California Congressman Eric Swalwell offering to stay in touch after meeting with her student group in Washington, D.C. He offered to mentor me. Wow. That was, as someone who knew virtually nothing about politics at the time or no one, that was just an incredibly generous offer that I felt very lucky to have. She says Swalwell created a group chat with all the students and then added her as a friend on the messaging app Snapchat.

4:33chat. She says Swalwell, who was then in his late 30s, started out talking politics, but his messages soon turned flirtatious. Ultimately, it reached a point where he invited me to a hotel to meet him. It was very clear what the connotation was. At that point, I completely stopped responding. What I keep thinking back to is how lucky I am that I didn't go to that hotel. Good for her. She knew it. This reminds me of my interview with Pamela Anderson. She sat on my set when I was at NBC and it was the height of the Me Too movement. I mean, she's Pamela Anderson. Hello. Virtually every man in Hollywood took a shot.

5:21She was like the world sex symbol during the peak of her fame post Baywatch and she was doing barbed wire and all that. And she would never take a meeting in a hotel room. She's Canadian. She has a smart family and a good mom who said to her, like, they're super nice up in Canada, but she knew nice does not require me to say yes to going to meet a director in his hotel room. She knew not to do it. And she told me that it was actually a great interview. She was very smart. And now we're seeing that side of her. You know, at the time we only knew her as the sex symbol, but she's obviously very layered and very interesting.

5:59She's been doing the no makeup thing and so on. But that's why like, it's very hard to take the women who are like, and he had me meet him at his hotel room all that seriously. Like there's only one reason they want you to meet them at their hotel room. Okay. Unless there's another person with you and it's like a group meeting, do not go to the damn hotel room. So this young woman who was not connected and had no power and really probably could have used this connection, was very smart and said, not only did she say no, she cut off all contact. Good for her. Ladies, take a lesson. We also heard this morning from Ali Samarco.

6:40She was featured in that CNN story about the four women yesterday, which included the one woman from the San Francisco Chronicle, who's got the alleged rape story. We dissected that yesterday and three others. Ali Samarco is one of the three others who now makes her first on-camera appearance with CBS. Watch. In 2021, she sent Swalwell a supportive message on Twitter, and to her surprise, he messaged right back. I was so excited. I was a low-level staffer who had no, like, no real political background, and he was this established figure in Democratic politics. They began to text, but she says he soon asked if she too was on Snapchat, where messages and photos automatically get deleted after they're viewed.

7:28How did the tenor of his conversation change? It started out as professional and platonic, and then slowly they became more and more explicit, asking me what I was wearing. then one night he was on a trip and he was laying in his hotel room bed and then he sent me a photo of his penis oh okay that's lovely classy guy um i just want to state again for all men out there no woman wants that women don't work the same way men do when it comes to getting turned on all right you maybe send a picture of your bicep or depending on your situation your wallet it. Just being honest about some women, but the dick pics, it doesn't work like that.

8:19Pretty much all men would appreciate a naked photo of a woman. Women aren't dying to have a naked photo of the guy. Like, it's just not like maybe show a picture of a guy like coddling, you know, being nurturing of a baby or playing with a kid on the baseball field. You're like, That stuff turns on a woman. It's like caregiver, loving husband, loving partner. That's hot. We don't need a dick pic ever. That doesn't work. That's for you. Let's just like the sexy lingerie at Valentine's. That's for you. Okay, so there's some free advice for you. Now, this is all terrible news for Eric Swalwell. No one gives a shit about him.

8:59What does it actually mean for the California gubernatorial race? That's something we do care about. The Golden State has a unique primary system where the top two vote getters go on to the general election regardless of political party. The primary is scheduled for June 2nd, but early voting begins early May. Currently in the Real Clear Politics average of all polls, which only includes polls conducted before Swalwell dropped out, Republican Steve Hilton, our friend, yay, leads the field at 15.5, where he's been steadily all along. He's followed here by Democrat billionaire Tom Steyer at 13, Swalwell here in third at 12.5, and Republican Chad Bianco in fourth place at 11.8.

9:40Meanwhile, betting markets show that Steyer's odds have surged into the lead since Swalwell's departure. What about Katie Porter? What do you mean? If we're going to have to deal with a Democrat for four years, it needs to be the angry one for me, really, just for entertainment value. I'm sorry to the people of California. If you're smart, you will vote for Steve Hilton and you will get a better life and a better state. Here to react to this entire scandal and the latest news is our pal Steve Hilton. He's a Republican candidate for governor in California and indeed has been and remains the front runner.

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11:41They can help you consolidate everything. So it's in one place and they will run interference for you. Okay? So check it out. supersure.com slash Megan paid for by supersure insurance agency LLC a licensed insurance agency Steve welcome back uh what a couple of days in your crazy race which we've been talking about from the beginning so your reaction to what's happened to Eric Swalwell what he did to himself yeah well there's lots to say Megan great to be with you first of all I think the Katie Porter thing needs to be the mashed potato lady I think that's very important that we focus on that the throwing.

12:18She is also an alleged abuser. Exactly. I don't know. Also, thank you for the advice. I don't have a smartphone, as you probably know. So I have this flip phone, which we when we met, you saw. So I even if I wanted to, which I never would appreciate the advice. I couldn't send those kind of pictures, but I never would. So let's let's look. I mean, look, first of all, the amazing thing about this, isn't it always the guys who are the most loud and insufferable? I'm with women. I stand with women. Me too. I'm a champion. I mean, he's been going on about that for years, Eric Swalwell. It's just incredible.

12:59It always turns out to be those guys that are the worst. And these stories are just incredible. First of all, I think it shows the incredible arrogance and contempt for all of us, for regular people, for voters that Eric Swalwell ran for governor and thought he could get away with this. That, you know, clear, of course, allegations, we get it. But there's so many. And it's not just this is all coming out now. It's been an open secret. I've used that term because I'd heard about this for months. I'd heard about from heard about it from reporters, from those close to Democrats. And you've got to believe that the Democrat establishment that was moving behind Swalwell, remember.

13:41So what was happening until this all blew up was that the key Democrat figures and organizations in California politics were getting behind Swalwell as their guy. the big unions the teacher unions seiu you saw the nancy pelosi machine getting behind him with all her acolytes adam shift the leading one a bunch of members of congress all endorsing swalwell so there was this sense in sacramento for example you talked in the last few weeks everyone in sacramento they were saying yeah it's going to be swalwell he's going to be the guy but they all knew and they backed him anyway now they have their statements of outrage and distancing all the rest of it they knew if i knew then they knew it's so it shows you their total hypocrisy they have no interest in anything other than their own power and if he's the useful guy that they can put there as their puppet doesn't matter about any of this stuff and so i think that we've really got to focus on the the rottenness of this democrat establishment particularly in california where they've been in power 16 years of one party rule, no constraint at all.

14:47They've got so arrogant, they're so out of touch with regular people. Of course, their record is a disaster. That's, you know, the basis of my campaign and setting out a positive alternative. But the fact that they're now collapsing into chaos and sleaze and scandal, I just think it's one more reason that despite the odds and despite how people look at California, we really do have a shot at kicking them out this year. Yeah, I mean, you've been the front runner since the beginning. I noticed Swalwell initially when he thought he could still save his, his, you know, himself in this race, kept saying, but I'm the front runner.

15:20I'm the front runner. And I was, of course, I've been watching this because of you. I'm like, he's not the front runner. Steve Hilton is the front runner. You've been the front runner. He might've been the front running Democrat. Um, but he has not been the front runner in this race. You have been. And, and we'll get to whether that's what's behind all of this. But before we go there, You mentioned Nancy Pelosi. She's shocked, shocked, shocked to hear about Eric Swalwell. She would have us believe. Listen to this. She doesn't sound right. She seems to be spiraling here just in tone. Take a listen here to SOT5.

15:51Some of some Republicans and others are saying that Democrats turned kind of a blind eye, that they knew what he was up to. That is absolutely positive. And it's true that they may say that, but it is absolutely not. You had no idea. None whatsoever. None whatsoever. I had none whatsoever. What happens in California now? He was in many of the polls, the leading candidate. Yes, he was. That's gone. There's an army of candidates out there. And California has this quirky law, because it's ranked primaries, right? Well, you could end up with two Republicans on the ballot. How does that... I agree that it is a quirky law.

16:29I do not agree that there'll be two Republicans at the top.

16:35she's she's seen to that i mean that's my belief she made sure she i think she knifed him because she needed support to consolidate behind somebody and she did know there of course you tell me steve is there any way nancy pelosi who's san francisco is her district exactly this is her state this is where he's from too that she didn't know this i mean the women are coming out of the woodwork By the end of the day, we could have maybe a dozen. Yes. Let's just be really precise. OK, I don't know. We don't know whether she knew, but it's here's what we can say with certainty. She had heard. Right. It must be the case that she had heard the idea that she didn't pick this up.

17:21Someone like her who prides herself on this iron grip on her caucus and all the rest of it. And exactly as you say, the California Democratic Party, which is she's the queen of that. And, you know, her district in San Francisco, of course she'd heard it. Now, she may not have seen evidence, let's say, or whatever, but she absolutely would have heard this because this is not new. Let's just remind ourselves over a year ago, but before you even thought about running for the race, there was a video and you've had, you've had, you know, independent investigative journalists putting out videos of this.

17:54There was a leaked conversation overheard in a Washington restaurant where Swalwell was talking in disgusting terms about how he was, I think I'm quoting, bored with his wife and he would only sleep with someone who was a 10. This is all on tape. That was over a year ago. Also, another thing, very important. And Steve, on top of that, on top of that, she saved him from the Fang Fang controversy. That whole Fang Fang Chinese spy situation got him into a lot of trouble. A Chinese spy was working for him in his office, and there was a question about whether they had an affair. He denied it. I mean, now that denial seems less plausible than ever.

18:31And Nancy Pelosi saved him. There was a push to kick him off of the intel committee, and she was like, no. She totally got behind him. She didn't have any interest in figuring out whether it was true. She just ran cover for a fellow D. Exactly, because that is what they are. The machine comes first. Their power comes first. All their endless lectures, their sanctimonious lectures about their values and all this is such total BS. And we can see that now. There's another thing, very important detail. So, I mean, he's this guy's been a hot mess for a while in this campaign. It's been scandal after scandal.

19:06One of them was whether he even lived in California. And of course, he doesn't. His home is in Washington, D.C. So there's been a lot of reporting around that and the fact that he's got this fake address in his district, which is basically a room in a house where he's never been. The California Post did some great reporting there, talked to all the neighbours. They'd never seen him. But what was discovered in his campaign finance reports was endless hotel bills in his district and in the Bay Area, including five-star hotels. That's all public, and he's charging his donors for that. Now, why would someone who claims to live in his district be billing his donors for hotel rooms in his district or hotel rooms in the Bay Area?

19:51Good question. That's been out there for ages. And it totally connects, of course, to the tape you just played of those people and their testimony about asking them to go to hotel rooms. So all of the, you know, the idea that they didn't know or hadn't heard, I just want to be really clear, hadn't heard this stuff. And therefore the fact that they were so eager to get behind him, which is exactly what was happening in the last couple of weeks, is just unbelievable. The business community, everyone. There was a real sense that he was the guy that they were consolidating behind. One thing I'd say is that one of the things you hear in the chatter around all of this, and is particularly coming from the Katie Porter camp, is that actually it was Tom Steyer who kind of engineered this coming out now.

20:34I don't quite understand the theory of how that happened because the stories have been out there for a while. Well, but it makes sense. There's no question in my mind that the Democrats did this, that they got this out because what they saw was the possibility, maybe, God forbid, on their view, of two Republicans making it to the general election, which they didn't want. Or more realistically, because the other Republican is trailing a bit, you would make it and Swalwell would make it. And then this would come out in the general. And thus ensuring your election. And so, like, to me, this is a big move against you.

21:12It's not a big move against Swalwell. I think they understood he was never going to get there because it was getting too hot. Too many of the women were speaking to CNN, now to CBS, to the San Francisco Chronicle. The one woman who was on CBS this morning talked about how she made a blog, like a blog post saying, you know, this guy's a creep, right? A bunch of young women have gone forward because her friend, this Annika, came to her and she's like, all right, I'm going to do a video. So they knew. So they had to turf him before the vote so that you were not going to be facing Eric Swalwell, who you could defeat if this had hit after June.

21:47What do you think? I think that's right. I mean, look, they this is the arrogance again. They just they think it's unthinkable that you'd have a Republican governor of California, even though their record is so disastrous. Like, let's just remind ourselves how bad it is. We have the highest poverty rate in America tied with Louisiana, the highest unemployment rate of all 50 states, the highest cost of living by far on everything that matters. U.S. News and World Report ranks California 50th out of 50 states for opportunity. Wallet Hub, 50th out of 50 for affordability. Chief Executive Magazine ranks as 50th out of 50 for business climate 10 years in a row.

22:25Homelessness, crime, the school results for disaster. Literally everywhere you look, it's a total disaster. So they know that they're vulnerable because people want to change. I mean, you look at the polls on the state going in the right direction or wrong direction. It's completely flipped on the Democrats. Like in the last couple of years, it's gone to a majority who say we're on the wrong track, you know, and sometimes that number is over 60 percent. So they know that they're vulnerable. And I think you're right. You know, they're so intoxicated with power. They think they own this state, that they have the right to rule it forever, regardless of what they do.

22:58And that kind of arrogance and cynicism, I think, is totally reflected in this story. What's amazing listening to you rattle off those stats is the current governor of California is considered by many to be the front runner for the Democratic presidential nomination. I mean, right now, according to the last poll we saw, it's between him and Kamala Harris, who's also from California, California senator before she became vice president. It's amazing, Steve, how these these politicians out there can continue running their state into the ground. I mean, Gavin Newsom has ruined California and still be treated as credible national candidates.

23:40Yes. And I just want to for everyone who's listening. And if you may see him watching and you see Newsom out there, you know, promoting his pathetic book and doing his campaign. I just want to unpack, you know, preemptively his the talking points you will get from him. Number one. Oh, we're doing a great job because we're the fourth biggest economy in the world. That is true statistically with a fourth biggest economy for two reasons. One, because of the dominant technology sector, which I'm proud of and we want to be leading in that. But it generates a huge amount of revenue, but very few jobs.

24:13That's why we have the fourth biggest economy side by side with having the highest unemployment rate and the highest poverty rate. Secondly, that number for fourth biggest economy, that includes the government. That includes just the size of the economy. They've massively, you know, they've doubled the budget of the state of California in the last 10 years. They've just bloated the government. That's why we have the highest taxes in the country for the worst results. So that fourth biggest economy, that's not the private sector apart from technology. That's the government. So let's remember that.

24:48And then when he talks about how we're dominant, he uses that word all the time. You listen to him. We're dominant in manufacturing. We're dominant in this and that. Yeah, what he means is we've got the biggest. But of course, we've got the biggest because we're the biggest state with the highest population and the largest number of most things. But when you look at the rate, the proportion, for example, of our population living in poverty, it's the highest of any other state. So we've got to read. He's so sneaky with this stuff, gaslighting everyone on a great job. He's I give one pathetic example.

25:20He did an event the other day about his ridiculous high speed rail thing. Right. And he, after, I don't know, like nearly two decades, still isn't built, billions of dollars spent. It's now going to be like 20 years late, 100 billion over budget. The last leg of it is now going to be a bus, if you can believe it. So it's a total disaster, like symbolic of the catastrophe of the whole thing. He does a press conference, right? Listen to how he speaks. And he stands in front of a train, which is not a high speed train, like pretending everything's happening. And he literally says this. we are and he has got some you know like slogan about high speed rail on track and he says we are now entering the track laying phase the words he is like making out that they're finally after nearly 20 years going to be laying the tracks they haven't laid any tracks and there's no plans to lay any tracks and they haven't got the money to lay any tracks but he's trying to spin it as something positive he says we're entering the track laying phase this guy's just so full of it As if it's progress.

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26:21I know. Amazing. So, all right, what happens now, Steve? What do you think? Because, I mean, as I said, if we have to have another Democrat in the, a Democrat in the top two, I'm voting for Katie Porter. I would like to cover her for four years if I have to. But here's, realistically, walk me through it. Because even though you're the frontrunner in this wide, weird primary, if you add together all the people who are backing the Democrat candidates in that primary, and you add together all the people who are backing you and Chad Bianco, the Democrat number is much higher. It's not much higher.

26:53It's like nine or ten digits higher, which doesn't bode well because this is a blue state and the odds of them electing a Republican have always been kind of a long shot. So what are you hoping for right now? So let's just take it in two phases, the primary and the general election. The primary, it's very important that we understand something now, and it's exactly what they want, right? which is now that Swalwell's out, you've basically got two candidates in the top tier. You've got a bunch of what I call the LPDs, the low polling Democrats, who've got no shot. They're all under 5%. And then they're never going to make it.

27:25It's Porter and Steyer. It's Porter and Steyer, exactly. According to the latest polls up there. 100%. It's those two. It's going to be one of those two. Now, here's the thing. If you do get consolidation behind them, some of Swalwell's votes, obviously, that's got to go somewhere. It's likely that it'll split roughly equally between the two of them. I don't know. We'll see. There's no polls since he dropped out. Those two could move up. And so actually, and this is what I've been saying all year, the more likely scenario than two Republicans in the top two is actually two Democrats, unless we really consolidate further on the Republican side.

27:58And that's why my argument to Republicans has been, OK, we've got to get behind the leading Republican candidate. That's clearly me. All the polls show that. You just showed the average. Yes. It's very important that Republicans understand that this idea of having two Republicans in the top two, if it was ever realistic, it's gone. We've got to be we've got to be practical, get behind the leading Republican. Then we'll be fine because there's enough Republicans to to get me into the top two. And at this point, my expectation and my plan, although we're the opposite of complacent, we're working harder than ever, is that I'll win the primary.

28:35Now let's look at the general election. The starting point for how we can win is what I said earlier. There's a majority for change in California. Well over 50 percent say we're going in the wrong direction. That is a good starting point. Secondly, in a midterm election, it's all about turnout. out. It's about who gets their voters out. And actually, this November, we've got two things that are on the ballot, ballot initiatives that have qualified for the ballot that will really help drive Republican turnout. One of them is Save Prop 13. That's about tax increases, very popular with Republicans.

29:06The second one, the really big one, is voter ID. Whatever happens with the Save America Act and all of that in California, we will have the chance to vote for voter ID this November. That's going to really get Republicans out. I'm doing town halls up and down the state. Every time I mention voter ID, huge cheers, big enthusiasm. The third thing is the fact that you've got these terrible candidates, Steyer and Porter. I mean, they're not sending their best. That's an asset to us in terms of winning. And then the final point I'd make, something big is happening in California, particularly with the business community, they've reached a breaking point.

29:45And so for the first time in 20 years, you're seeing real engagement of business, prompted by the fact that everything's such a disaster, but also this ridiculous billionaire's tax. And they're getting engaged in the fight. And if it's... Steven Spielberg and so many others have moved out where I am. Yeah. And so, you know, I've got an event in LA tomorrow night, it's mainly Democrats. And so there's a sense of, you know, we can't go on like this. Something's got to change. even if you know we don't have to sort of become republicans but it's it's 16 years of one party rule is not healthy we need a bit of balance and so i think that actually i understand that it's it's going to be difficult i'm the opposite of assuming that the terrible results of this democrat rule will turn into an automatic victory but people are really it's changing in california And so the point about the business community is that for years, Republicans have faced a totally uneven playing field because you've got the unions, especially the government unions, massively spending to elect Democrats.

30:46And the business community has kind of been absent, honestly. That's changed. They've had enough. And so I think that actually, as we go into the general election, and if it's me against Steyer or me against Porter, the business community in California is going to say that is unacceptable. We cannot let that happen. And so for the first time in at least 20 years, we may have a fair fight in terms of the resources that we'll have to get our message out there. I think you would do best against Katie Porter because at least Steyer has a reputation of being more reasonable. She doesn't. And you should be getting ads made for her right now talking about how she's been treated wrongly because she's a woman, about how anger is an acceptable emotion and that people have been too hard on her.

31:34Try to rehabilitate her a little, Steve, so that she can be the one. Do it for me. I would love to watch that race. There's no way she beats you. I'm seeing her. The next TV debate is next week, the 22nd. So we'll see how that all plays out. Yeah. Oh, I have one piece of advice for you. Stay the fuck out of her shot. She doesn't like that. Exactly. Exactly. By the way, one last thing. Okay, tiny thing. We'll be watching. Megan, just a very quick thing. Just an indication that this is going to be possible. The first TV debate, it was me against six Democrats, statewide TV audience. Oh, they canceled it.

32:07No, no, the one before that, the very first one, isn't that a couple of months ago? It was me against six Democrats, statewide TV audience, not a Republican audience. And they said, who won the debate? Who made the best impression? They were all basically under 10 % apart from one. I won that with 66%. So that tells you something about the appetite for change. Something's happening in California. Plus, you're very charming. They're just getting to know the charming men we've known for years, and they're responding well. So this is great. I never thought you'd be this strongly positioned only because it's such a blue state.

32:40So I'm thrilled that you are. And you raise a good point about the other Republican. Chad, no offense, but get out. Consolidate behind Steve. Do it for the love of country. Great to see you, my friend. We'll continue watching. Thank you, Megan. Great to be with you. All right. Coming up, the fellas from Ruthless are here. They will react to that interview and to the craziness of what's happening in Democrat politics right now. Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and that now they're messing with your credit card. They say your credit card and the security it offers are under attack and that Senators Dick Durbin and Roger Marshall want to change the nation's payment system to benefit corporate megastores like Walmart and Target at the expense of everyday Americans.

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35:45You know, it's sometimes fun, sometimes not fun being on the pointy end of the spear, but usually fun. Usually fun. Usually fun. So good to be back with you. It's like my old pal at Tom, Tom Lowe Fox used to say, darling, you like to go to the place that hurts. That's what he used to say. So good. It's very true. Okay. So you may have missed the top of the hour where we gave free advice. Not that you guys need it, but don't ever send a dick pic. Just don't do it. Period. End of report. It shouldn't be a thing. But it's amazing to me that this Eric Swalwell was sending that. I mean, think about like as a sitting congressman, and this is this is your business, right?

36:25Advising these politicos who want that job that he has. And think about like the recklessness of like texting young college girls who had just met you on Capitol Hill on a like a one on one. Come come see me at a hotel or like, hey, that bathing suit picture. But think of the hubris it takes to actually take down your pants and send a naked photo of your member. It's what is that? Because that's what she wants. They're all begging for that. I mean, a couple of observations off the top. We've long contended here in the Ruthless Variety program that the first time that you see something like that is most definitely not the first time somebody has done it.

37:07That is a tried and tested move. It's not something that you just sort of, like, do. You know? I mean, we've thought about that all the way back. Just try it out. Yeah, right. I mean, it's just like this is part of the plan, apparently. Like sending an emoji. Yeah, right. It's like, wow. Totally. Same thing. But then like the second observation was the circumstance in particular with which this one arose with Swalwell, which is you had a young Democratic staffer who is interested in working on Capitol Hill, had met Eric Swalwell, somehow they exchanged numbers, he agreed to have an interview with her.

37:42And like, lo and behold, a couple of days later, powie, right in her inbox. You know, it's like, what? What? It's so hard to even process. Like you said, the hubris, the arrogance, all of that. But on that junior staffer, she's what I'm calling accuser number one because she's the most prominent one. She hasn't yet gone on camera. Well, she has, but not outside of silhouette. And an important fact on her allegations, I'm not excusing anything Swalwell did. But the way she told the story was he first asked her if she would send him nudes and she did. Come on. So I got to say in his defense, at that point, you're probably feeling OK about sending your own nudes.

38:25That might be don't hate the player, hate the game territory. I mean, he's got success. Do we want to stay married after this segment? Because I have a lot of thoughts about this. But like, you know, I think it's interesting. Your wife agrees. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. But what strikes me, Megan, is these California Democrats who live this charmed life. And I know you had you had Hilton on earlier where they've ruled the state for so long that they have gotten incredibly reckless. Right. And he was like a made man in the Pelosi orbit for a very long time. And clearly that went to his head.

39:04But now that she's sort of on the way out, what is she, Speaker Emeritus, some made-up title, like it's a tenured professor? Yeah. Clearly, that's all sort of crumbled now. Yeah. She doesn't get – she's just on camera. We played it with Steve Hilton of her being like, no idea. I had no idea. I mean, nonsense. You guys tell me whether that is plausible. It's absolute nonsense. I mean, under no circumstances is it true that she had no idea. that she and Swalwell share a team. Yeah, like Swalwell's, one of Swalwell's fixers went to work for Nancy Pelosi. Like 100 % she knows. Oh, like an actual team member.

39:45She is lying through her teeth, as she often does. But the point is, Democrats have gotten away with this for a very long time, and they always do. And you look at other states, and maybe it's not as explosive as the Swalwell situation. but in every single state where Democrats have full control of not just the legislature in the governor's mansion but also the media they are never asked tough questions nobody ever presses them and therefore they get away with things year after year after year and then they start getting loose and they start thinking they can get away with it and then next generation of Democrats thinks they can get away with a little bit more and so I mean I blame Democrats but I also blame the media here because easy press makes me I mean I think that's a really good point Megan like can you imagine a scenario where some democratic leader has appointed somebody is the attack dog the number one voice of opposition to an incumbent president that person is on TV all day and every day and imagine that person is a Republican do you think for one second and if it was widely known on Capitol Hill that they were sending dick pics and propositioning women and worse that that wouldn't have come out of course because if you're a republican and you are the point person it doesn't matter whether you did something or not somebody's going to allege it and the media is going to report it holmes they took mit romney's binders full of women and made him into a misogynist they turned him into harvey weintzine can you imagine a republican basically has to adjust himself through his pants and they will i mean that's it he's done never mind like he's rubbing himself on the airplane and sending me pictures on camera with a woman.

41:28And he still thought he could withstand it. The first couple of days, he's like, I'm not going anywhere. He's like, bitch, I'm Eric Swawa. I got Nancy Pelosi in my back pocket. You don't want to know what I have in the front pocket. And I'm going to weather this storm. Sort of like a baby carrot, if I'm guessing. I'm not saying, I'm just saying. You all thought it. You all thought it. It could be. But you know, the way that the media is patting themselves on the back in the wake of this Swalwell story is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in modern journalism. I don't know if you saw Brian Stelter, who went on CNN and starts talking about how great the media is doing these investigations.

42:12One thing that we know about the mainstream media is that they only attack a Democrat if it's in service of a second Democrat. You just had a great conversation with Steve Hilton. I hope to God that that guy can get over the finish line in California because what good would it do for the state? But my point is the media, while they're patting themselves on the back about how well they're doing on Swalwell, all of a sudden they have no interest. You know that video, for example? There's a famous video that's flying all over Twitter of Swalwell French kissing some sex worker, right? I love French kissing.

42:48he's grabbing her and pulling her back on a bed i've never i've never once heard a single reporter ask who took that video who is that sitting next to you on the bed whose nikes are those whose beard is that i'm not saying it's ruben gallegos because we have no evidence he hasn't said it's him or hasn't said it's not him but nobody's asked the question this is a guy who eric swalwell and he loved to travel with eric swalwell that was his bff he was the chairman of his presidential campaign the video was taken during the time that eric swalwell was running for president my point is if this you're you know what you said earlier if you were republican it would be very different circumstances if he were republican every mainstream media reporter would be like who took the video who is that in there with you and make him deny it very true yeah in a weird way in a weird way hilton being so successful in this jungle primary is the reason all this swalwell stuff's coming out.

43:40Right? Because they are so nervous they're going to get locked out of the runoff in this thing. And so the Democratic establishment, these other campaigns, the whole grassroots component of the Democratic Party are now trying to get rid of swalwell for that reason. And Duncan, you saw it. He is charming. Steve Hilton, yes, he's a Republican. Yes, it's California. But Hilton is charming in a very disarming way that I'm sure they find extremely threatening. And to your point on the media, what would the San Francisco Chronicle have done if this woman came to them when it was a general and it was Steve Hilton versus Eric Swalwell?

44:20Oh, you know what they would have done. Oh, yeah, that would have been a real catch and kill situation. They would have been like, ah, they would have been doing the fair and balanced report that I did yesterday, which brought a little bile into my stomach because I have zero desire to help Eric Swalwell. But I did take a hard look at the allegations and I raised points about she sent him the nudes first, according to her testimony, you know, like all those points. They would have read all that and they would have been like, she's not really not a credible accuser. I don't think we can go with it.

44:51You know, this is you're in the middle of a general campaign. You know, you don't want to interfere in a way that's unfair. That's how it would have gone down. They all jumped on board. It was like CNN, Sarzesko Chronicle, CBS News, queuing up these women like within hours because they knew he had to go. The stakes are too high. We played a great clip on our show this morning of him during the Kavanaugh era. I think he was on with Ari Melber or somebody from MSNBC back in the day and was saying like, well, either four women who have never met each other, don't associate with each other, but all have similar stories about Kavanaugh.

45:28are telling the truth or he's the most unlucky person in the history of the world. Meanwhile, he's got all that going on. And no one asked him the question. I guess that's the point, right? It was widely known now according to X and you read all the stuff that beat reporters were talking about. My favorite, by the way, was like, oh, yeah, I knew all that stuff, but it wasn't my beat. I couldn't report it. I couldn't talk about that. They are actually saying that. Here's the question. Okay, so San Francisco Chronicle's interested in the story. Got it. And he's from the San Francisco region, right?

46:04I think that's his hometown or it's near his hometown. And so they're super interested in the Eric Swalwell story now. Where were they over the past three, four, five, six years? Okay, because Ronan Farrow, had he been hired by the San Francisco Chronicle, would have been looking at this 100%. As it turns out, he's devoted the past four years to taking down Sam Altman. in a devastating piece that he just released. But my point is simply, if you have the interest in this kind of story, you do hear the rumblings. I'm wondering about the New York Times. Like, where was Megan Toohey? Like, sort of those, the Me Too beat reporters.

46:43Where were they? Because the whiff around this guy for years now has been, he's a perverted creep. From Fang Fang, which was very public and in front of the scenes, to like, look how little it took. One little thread was pulled. by the San Francisco Chronicle, like the one woman. And now they're in the midst of a press conference. I'm going to play you the soundbite in two minutes of the latest accuser. They came running, running. Just one reporter need to pull a little thread. So yeah, where was the interest from the San Francisco Chronicle and others two, three, four years ago? He's a useful pervert.

47:19He's a useful pervert. He was out there willing to say the most incendiary things possible about Donald Trump and Republicans. That's it. And that's it. Right there. Because in this whole story, we can't lose what a Trump antagonist he has been. He's been like the face of Trump antagonism. And he and Adam Schiff, who just got promoted to senator from what state? Oh, California. Right? And then there's Nancy Pelosi. Oh, wait, where's she from? Okay. Right? So it's like the cabal protects its own until you're no longer useful. and then you will get Nancy Pelosi's stiletto up your ass. No, it's true.

48:00And, you know, look, like we used to have, Johnny and I used to work in Senate leadership. And if allegations surfaced in any material way, certainly like that video that you were talking about last segment where, you know, he's talking about I only bang tens and things like that. Like if that stuff comes out, you have a very serious conversation with your member. You certainly don't appoint them to be the point person to attack a sitting president of the United States because you know the liability associated with that. They didn't think anybody would care. And they thought they could just steamroll the media.

48:33It doesn't matter what information people have. It's the information flow that they think that they control that matters here. And that is the way that democratic leadership has worked in perpetuity for so many generations. It's crazy. You get a new media environment and some of this stuff starts coming out like that video that we were just speaking about, but it didn't really take hold in the mainstream media until he presented a liability to the Democratic Party. Now everybody's interested in it. The women can't wait to come forward. Everybody's talking about it. It's like, I don't think that you can divorce anything that we've learned here in the last 48 hours with a partisan opportunity that Democrats have by having Eric Swalwell exit stage left.

49:15They do control the information flow. That was very well said. And it's not just Eric Swalwell. You were talking about Katie Porter and her volcanic temper. Old potato. Yeah, we call her mashed potatoes and crazy over here at the Ruthless Variety Program. Katie, can we just before you make that point, let's just, you know, for old time's sake, let's let's watch that 10. Let's just watch that. Oh, yes. This is why I didn't want to. I need the lights off, the bright lights. I'm so sorry but I am about to get on Bernard I need you to turn these off these that are killing me oh no Bernard hang on one second everybody yes yes we should have yes okay everybody I'm not that dark it's too dark there's the turn oh god just a minute okay everybody I'm sorry about that I am in a TV studio getting ready to go on Cuomo.

50:15And so I had all those studio lights on me and I couldn't see myself or see you guys. We have more coming, of course. We've got the money shot as well that everybody wants to see. But keep going. She's an absolute lunatic. And that divorce filing that described her throwing the steaming mashed potatoes on her husband's head, It also described how she took a broken coffee pot and went after him with the glass. Like, there's story after story about her very early in her career. This is 2018 when she first ran for Congress. And a lot of reporters were presented with this filing and they were like, nah, I don't want to write it.

50:56You know why they didn't want to write it? Because she was an acolyte of Elizabeth Warren. She was a made woman in their machine. And therefore, the media was not going to tell the true story about her. She was running in a primary against other Democrats. There was a Democrat who probably would have voted up and down for Pelosi. She was closer to Elizabeth Warren and closer to the power structure. Therefore, she was protected. And it wasn't until like three cycles later that the media was like, OK, well, you know what? We're willing to write the story based on the divorce filing, which is a court document.

51:30You know, it's not all available. It's not like some Republican researcher digging something up and saying, no, trust me, this is a story. These are official documents. And her temper, obviously, you've got great video you just played and more to come. It wasn't until a Democrat pitched the story. Exactly. Everyone knew it. It wasn't until a Democrat pitched the story so it's in service of another Democrat that you learned anything about Katie Porter, which is the same as Wola. You don't even have to read the divorce filings. If you just watch that video and you see her eyes change. It's in the eyes.

52:01Oh, yeah, you can tell crazy eyes are definitely scares Yeah, there's another great interaction that she had with a reporter from CBS reporters like so why are you running for Congress? And she was she was like, fuck you Just loses her mind on this kid No, it was amazing. That's why I kind of I secretly love her Her absence of anger management makes her very interesting and fun to watch whatever she does it needs to be higher office Like, I don't care if it's California. She needs to, like, she needs to become more prominent in the Democrat Party. I think she should consider throwing her hat into the presidential list.

52:35Oh, yeah. A1 content. But, yeah. So she, whatever. We'll see whether she's the one who takes on Steve Hilton. But they knifed him. There's no question they knifed Eric Swalwell. The Democrats did it. They were the ones who knew it. I don't know how they orchestrated it. But they're very good at orchestrating. They are. And now we have this other woman coming forward right now. I'm going to show you this soundbite. It's actually rather disturbing. I mean, this guy may, he may be some kind of monster. We're going to show it when we come right back, but like shit's getting even more serious and much, much more to come.

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56:49That we're going to lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems. And the state could lose. Get out of my fucking shot. I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrect. It's not that it's electric vehicles. It's that if we don't meet the commitments under the Paris climate accord. Okay. It does. Okay. You also were in my shop before that. stay out of my shot okay i'm going to start again with um electric vehicle saving us money perfect okay i was that team katie team k that's the next governor of california possibly right there welcome back to the megan kelly show the fellas from the ruthless variety program are my guest today guys how can you not love her a little yeah i mean that's the way smug operates with all of us around here it's a shame he's gone today but that's that's basically yeah he's not at all We're all in our shot today.

57:43It's the same feel that we get. I mean, she's just such a monster. It's hilarious because you're right about the crazy eyes. Like you see there's something that provokes and then all of a sudden she flips into like pure sociopathy. No, I'm telling you, I'm team Katie. That girl should not have been in the shot correcting her as she was issuing her information. I don't care. I'm on team Katie there. I think she should give me an interview. I think we would bond. I would be like, you know what? She had no right doing that to you. She had no right. It would be, everybody would watch this. Okay, wait, there's more though.

58:22So now, now it just got, shit's getting real for Eric Swalwell. So we found out yesterday that Alvin Bragg, the DA in Manhattan, infamous DA, is opening up a criminal probe into Swalwell because the young woman who is alleging that she had not one but two extremely drunken interludes with him, including both, where she says they had sex, which she says she was blacked out. If that's true, there's not consent, and it could potentially be rape legally. And the second of those incidents happened in New York City. So Alvin Bragg is now opening a legal probe into Swalwell, which now that's serious as a heart attack.

59:03And now this woman, they had teased that she was going to come out. I said to my team, let me guess with Gloria Allred. It's Gloria Allred's daughter, Lisa Bloom, her lawyer. Yeah, that's the lawyer. And so, you know, anybody, I have to be honest, anybody who comes out with Allred or the daughter, there's a segment of the population that's going to say, I don't believe a word you say because you're looking for publicity. I will say these are good lawyers. You know, they know what they're doing. So, you know, keep an open mind. But here she is, this latest accuser. And I mean, this is next level.

59:38Her name is Lana Drews. She says this happened in 2018. She's in the entertainment industry. She's not a journalist. One thing just to point out, as I said, for an hour, we went through the Swalwell allegations yesterday as we knew them. And the one thing I kept saying was that these women seem to be intimating that there might have been a date rape drug used by him. No one said it explicitly. but the women, there was a pattern emerging as you looked at the stories of like, I was extremely intoxicated. I blacked out and he was on top of me. And no one said it. I just was gleaning that they might've been intimating.

1:00:18Well, this woman does more than intimate. Listen. In 2018, while I was living and working as a model in Beverly Hills, and I also owned a fashion software company. I had contact with Eric Swalwell on three separate occasions after meeting him socially. He offered me connections to further my software company. And I also had an interest in local politics. He invited me to two public events.

1:01:00I knew he was married at the time and that his wife was pregnant. He was my friend. On the third occasion, I believe he drugged my drink. I only had one glass of wine.

1:01:26He, we were supposed to go to a political event and he said he needed to get paperwork from his hotel room.

1:01:37When I arrived at his hotel room, I was already incapacitated and I couldn't move my arms are my body. He raped me.

1:01:54And he choked me. And while he was choking me, I lost consciousness. And I thought I died. I did not consent. Oh, my God. Different level. One more. This is from her lawyer, Lisa Bloom. Immediately, we will be filing a police report with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office, which is the law enforcement agency that has jurisdiction over incidents that happen in West Hollywood. Lana is committed to fully cooperating with law enforcement, and we will do everything possible to assist and support her in that. We will be providing all of her evidence there, including text messages, journal entries, photograph, and witness information.

1:02:59Lisa Bloom also adding that three more women have contacted her about Swalwell. Guys, this just took a turn in a very, very dark one. It's one thing if he's just like a pervert, and it's quite another if this is some sort of a date rape, serial rapist. He denies all charges. He claims they're completely untrue. The ones that are accusing him of sexual assault, he says. He says everything else is a matter between him and his wife. And we don't know anything about this woman, I have to say, in his defense. We have no idea what her credibility is, whether she's got an ax to grind. All of that needs to be investigated.

1:03:34But just on its face, that's extremely serious and devastating. No kidding. No, I mean, it's where it travels from being a creep to being a monster, right? And, you know, you hate to hear it. And you can see the pain in that woman's face. It's just, it's awful. And I do understand conceptually the idea that when a whistle is blown on a potential monster, as is being alleged of Swalwell here, how other women could find the courage to come forward and wouldn't do so before. Mm-hmm. What irritates me about this entire situation is that, you know, her pain or somebody else's could have been prevented in the first place if somebody did a little bit of due diligence on what appears to be a pattern over a long period of time.

1:04:23But as long as this man was saying the right things to the right people and the wrong things about the right people, he was fine in Democratic Party politics. He was protected. He was a made man. He was put in charge of things. I mean, this guy sat on the intelligence committee for crying out loud. Will you trust this guy with your secret? I mean, I guess he knew how to keep a secret. But other than that, what an absolute monster. And it's just it's the sickening part of politics and in particular, Democratic politics, where they think if you don't find out about something, that's perfectly fine.

1:04:55as long as somebody like Eric Swalwell is in service of their larger mission, which is to try to destroy conservatism, Donald Trump, or the Republican Party. Enough or nothing, guys, but that was 2018, she said. Yeah, I mean— He got married in 2016, and as you heard her say, his wife was pregnant at the time, which she knew when she was, you know, seeing him. But it's just so disgusting. Not that it's great to cheat 10 years in either, but like two years? You didn't even make it two years before you cheated on your pregnant wife? Like that's just next level demonic. But Holmes, unfortunately, it's not just Democrats because this guy Tony Gonzalez is going to go too.

1:05:39And his allegations are awful. They're awful. Now, they're not the same as Swalwell. But he's now being forced to resign early because he had an affair with a junior staffer who was married and he was married with six children and he was sending her inappropriate texts. There's a record of them. Her husband found out. Her husband was livid and she set herself on fire and killed herself. And this guy has been lingering on in the House. He said, I'm not going to seek re-election. But he didn't step down. And no one made him step down because the Republicans have a very, very slim majority in the House.

1:06:29I mean, and now in the wake of Eric Swalwell being forced out, he's like, OK, I'll go too. You know, and now the Republicans are like, OK, we can we can sacrifice one because they're losing one, which is also very skeevy. Yeah, I think it's different, honestly. I mean, if you look at the sequence of events on the Gonzalez thing, which is horrible, absolutely ridiculous in both in terms of power structure within that office, the fact that it was a staffer, the fact that obviously there was mental health issues involved in what ultimately became a very tragic situation. But when all this came to light, it was presented to Speaker Johnson and he immediately said, this guy needs to go.

1:07:09You should not run for reelection. I mean, it was very close in proximity to when this comes out. And it wasn't driven by Speaker Johnson. Like these were evidence. These were things that were happening that we were all learning at at the same time. And appropriate action was taken. Now, should he have had a vote to expel him? I mean, that's an argument that you could make, certainly. But as this happened, Republicans had no, it was all harm. And yet he went out and said he should not run for reelection when he was in a tight reelection race, thereby risking the seat altogether. There's not a single Democrat that did that.

1:07:48In fact, Swalwell, it wasn't until he posed a problem to the Democratic Party that we started learning this. And I would suggest this whole thing was pitched by the Democratic Party to begin with, which is certainly not the case. with the Gonzalez thing in terms of its politics. Now, in terms of its practical impact, they're both horrible situations, obviously very different in a lot of different ways. And they should both have no business representing anybody in the United States Congress. But there is a different political impact in how the leaders have handled each situation. Yeah, and it doesn't stop.

1:08:24I don't know. It doesn't stop with those two. I don't think we can rehabilitate anybody on Tony Gonzalez. He's disgusting. He's a filthy pervert. To her credit, Anna Polina Luna was among the first to say he's got to go. Get him out of here. And he is getting out of there. But like – and look, this is – I think the Swalwell thing suggests a conspiracy at every level of Democrat politics. I just think – I think Nancy Pelosi knew. I think Hakeem Jeffries knew. I wonder if Gavin Newsom knew. I think Adam Schiff knew. Totally. This is just my supposition based on their power and their party and the fact that this seemed to be an open secret.

1:08:59And they know everything. You know, they're California Democrats. So I just think it's very different if you know you've got a serial possible rapist on your hands versus a guy who's a disgusting, filthy pervert who had an affair with one woman. And by the way, there's a second woman alleging he sent her dick pics and had naughty texts with her. Another staffer in his office. So he's he's going this Gonzalez character. But it's they're equally I mean, they're they're both awful, but there are degrees of awfulness. Well, yeah, Megan, I mean, the thing that makes me a little bit uncomfortable in this whole thing is, you know, this is the United States Congress.

1:09:33It's like not the NFL draft. It's not like two teams that get to trade picks with a player determined later. It's like who we kick out of Congress. I think it cheapens the whole process. And what I would hate to see happen is it's like, oh, well, you get one. We get one. They're both gone. We wipe our hands. And then we don't actually get to the bottom of all this stuff with Swalwell. Well, that's really my concern is like there is a process of justice here that victims, if they are actual victims, deserve. And I don't like entering into that political sphere. You won't read anything about Eric Swalwell in three weeks.

1:10:07They solved the problem. They solved the problem. So true. There is no problem. How many other problems are there? Well, yes, but it's not until it becomes a problem for the democratic hierarchy that you learn about it. And once that's solved, it's over. Like this victim, I feel horrible. This tape that you just played. She's not going to read a single thing about any justice administered until or unless they bring charges and he has to stand before a court. It will not be covered. The problem is solved from a media perspective. Everyone's talking about this old Madison Cawthorn soundbite. he was a member of the house who got pushed out for being kind of awful i don't like what was the general buzz around him no that's i think that's a fair assessment but and now he's renewing this comment online and there are some who are in the house saying take a seat madison which i guess is not the best phrase because he is wheelchair bound um but here he is in a warning about what really goes on behind the scenes in congress before he was pushed out in 2022 a sexual perversion that goes on in washington i mean it being kind of a young guy in washington with the average age of probably 60 or 70 and i look at all these people a lot of them that i you know i've looked up to through my life i've always paid attention to politics guys that you know then all of a sudden you get invited to like well hey we're gonna have kind of a sexual get-together at one of our homes Jesus.

1:11:40What did you just ask me to come to? And then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy. Or the fact that there's some of the people that are leading on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country. And then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you. And it's like, this is wild. I mean. Okay. I don't know that I've been invited to an orgy. Have you fellas? Where was this stuff when I was 22? Yeah. I mean that was like that at 22 that would an orgy I've been like you got to be kidding you think you would have done it no he'd have been in on the orgy Megan he's not telling the whole truth no I the funny thing is you hear this stuff from time to time and that guy is like the least credible person in the history of the world to talk about any of it maybe that was his experience I would suggest it's probably the friends that he chose that provided that opportunity for him.

1:12:33But you hear about this from time to time and either it's totally untrue or the 20 years that I spent in and around Capitol Hill were a charmed existence. And one that... Or just nobody wanted you, Holmes. Do you think? Megan, that's harsh. I feel like I'd be invited to orgies. That's unbelievable. I think you would. I think you would, my friend. But this is, I mean, look, I don't know if I'm just like most blessed to have had the experience that I had. Or unblessed. Or unblessed. I mean, look, there would have been some things to write a great tell-all if I would have had a different experience.

1:13:20It's like Trump. Unfortunately, that's just the way it's been. Women let the celebrities grab them by the P word and they don't complain. And unfortunately or fortunately, it depends on how you look at it. I wasn't famous. I wasn't famous. They didn't let me do it. Okay. I don't know what's going on in Capitol Hill, but I will say, you know, having lived on this earth as a professional for a long time, every business is gross. There are gross people in every business who are going to pervert it, corrupt it, do the wrong thing. It's life. You know, maybe some industries are worse than others. I would certainly say news is pretty disgusting up and down the business.

1:14:00Politics seems equal. They're kind of the same gig. I would say my law days, I didn't see this kind of stuff. Lawyers can be skeezy. At my level where I was, it wasn't like this. Lawyers have to take a whole ethical oath and test to pass the bar. And I think they work so hard for their careers. They know they could lose them so easily and get disbarred. I don't know. Maybe I'm being a Pollyanna about the law. But I don't remember anything like this stuff. There were affairs and things like that, but like, this is crazy. So I don't know. I'm disappointed to see so many of our elected representatives be disgusting.

1:14:33And I really, I'm very, very pro throwing them out. Like as soon as we find out, get out. There's another one where that came from. But I also want to caution that a touch in that, A, that has not been my experience. But B, you know, I was reminded when people are surfacing these kind of things about how, like you yourself being a public figure had to undergo just incredible, salacious, ridiculous, rumor mongering, untrue bullshit in your career, just simply because you were successful. and the network you were on was successful. And so people wanted to talk about it and allege things and almost became incumbent upon you to sort of defend yourself with completely untrue things that are being said about you.

1:15:18I don't want to do that to Congress as a whole. Are there some bad folks? No question about it. I genuinely believe, and at least it's been my experience, the vast majority of them that are up there are doing the people's business and they're doing the best thing that they possibly can. I do not think that there are Swalwells at every corner. And so I just... ...to it myself, to get the throw the bums out, get them all out of here. They're all jerks and pedophiles and thieves and everything else. And I just don't think that personally that is the case. See, this is why you don't get invited to the orgy.

1:15:54I know, it's why I'm not at the orgy. It's just... No, this would get him invited. invited. This is what gets you invited. He's like, let's be slow to judge. I'll defend. I'll defend. I don't know. I didn't see anything myself. The heart wants what it wants. I want to correct myself. Tony Gonzalez, according to San Antonio Express. I think we got an audio issue. I just want to say, because Tony Gonzalez did not send a dick pic. He solicited a nude photo from another staffer, and he sent sexually explicit messages. So just to be clear, he wanted the sexual photos to be incoming. He didn't yet send one outgoing as far as we know.

1:16:37So that's that. I don't know. I will say this, like the odds of getting accused by like a dozen people of the same exact thing and there being no truth, like that just, that's a bridge too far. It's one thing like, well, you take the Gonzales situation. Like if, if it had been one staffer who came forward and it was like, well, is this a consensual affair that these two had and whatever, but like this thing spun so out of control and the woman's results were so devastating. You know, I mean, she died by suicide in the most horrific way. She clearly was very manipulated and traumatized by this guy, but then she was manipulated and traumatized by the fact that her husband found out about the affair.

1:17:17That was part of the driving factor there. Um, it just, it couldn't be ignored. But with Swalwell, it's like, I don't know how many we're going to get total. And it seems to be on a downward slope toward more and more severe. It's just like, in my experience, you don't get a dozen accusers coming forward when there's absolutely no there. With Trump, it was different because he was at the highest levels of politics and they threw everything at him. And he had had years as like a playboy man about town where, you know, he admitted that he was a bit of a bore with women. And so it was hard with Trump to actually understand exactly like what's the boorish behavior of a celebrity playboy and what's a Me Too situation?

1:18:04You know, like that ridiculous person who sued him claiming that he raped her and Bergdorf Goodman. I didn't believe one word from that E. Jean Carroll. Not one word. Which is my right, by the way, E. Jean, in case you're getting any ideas of suing me. I don't believe you. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. In any event, okay, let's keep going because there's other news to get to on Capitol Hill and I want to get to a lot of it. But before we do Capitol Hill, now we're on the subject of perversion. Can we talk about Sidney Sweeney for a second? Terrific. Yes. Yeah. So Sidney Sweeney, who I think you're in favor of.

1:18:39Yes. She stars in the show Euphoria, which I've never seen. But that's how I guess she kind of became a star, starring in that. And then she was in that. She was in a couple of other things. But this is where like her main vehicle. And they are teasing the next season of Euphoria. Okay. This thing is made by Sam Levinson, who is a filmmaker and actor and the son of director Barry Levinson, who's very famous. He, Sam, is the creator of Euphoria. and they have just teased the third season of Euphoria with a little video showing what's going to be happening with Sydney Sweeney's character, where I guess she's going to become a social media influencer and she's going to be like an OnlyFans actress.

1:19:29I'm sorry, forgive me, viewer warning. This is her spread eagle. A little heads up on that, Megan. Sorry, sorry. Good God. On a couch. It's definitely R-rated. Sorry. Oh, and we're zooming in. I'm sorry. Holy cow. This is going to change the trajectory of my day, Megan. You could have given us a heads up. She's dressed as a baby. She's in a baby's outfit. She's sucking on a binky, pacifier, and her legs are completely spread. And I, like, it's, you can have a laugh, of course, because it's just, I shocked you. But the truth is, this is like, this is sexualizing infancy. That's what this is. And some of the write-ups about this are like, it's a pretty common kink.

1:20:18What? Wanting, getting turned on by a baby? Like, what? What are you, what? I've never heard, no. Okay, so this is sick. And this guy is promoting this. I can't believe she agreed to this, frankly, and was in this. Like we just took the screen grab from the trailer. There's also a picture of her dressed as a dog being led around on a leash. And I think this guy's sick. This guy, Sam Levinson, like, because there are reports of him injecting nudity into the Sydney Sweeney scenes. So often she went to him and said, please stop doing this. It's very gratuitous. And now all these other women have come forward saying he injected nudity into their scenes, too.

1:20:58He constantly wants the women to take their clothes off for like scenes that don't require them to be nude at all. And he just keeps putting in every scene and all these women want to be stars. And so, you know, few say no, but the ones who do somehow it leaks, you know, because they're clearly trying to tell us that this guy is at a minimum a jerk and more than likely a problem. So I think this is another example, guys, of Hollywood not understanding at all where the line is and how most normal people are going to recoil, even Sidney Sweeney fans, in response to what's essentially the sexualization of a child, of a baby.

1:21:39It seems to be wanting to bring down your defenses on the most disgusting crime imaginable on earth. Your thoughts? Well, it makes you question the strength of the plot line. Yeah, you have to wonder how that meeting went when they're going through the script. They were like, okay, is this essential? Or is like, to your point, Megan, is the director working out his own sick fetish here through the production of this show? It's like the Quentin Tarantino thing. Allegedly, you know, he's really in defeat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember the rumors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe it's something like that.

1:22:14But also, I have no context to this because I don't watch Euphoria. I hear the whole show is disgusting like this. But I have to wonder, because I assume a lot of this stuff was in context of this character starting an OnlyFans page. Maybe it's a commentary on the sickos who are asking her to do these things. So maybe it's a commentary on that. Although, having seen some of the clips online, it seems like the entire show is just perversion. There are probably other ways to present that sort of commentary. It's just my own opinion. I feel like Hollywood is just begging for the San Andreas fault to ship.

1:22:48You know, like they're, it's like they're, they're throwing up prayers every day. San Andreas move, put California into the Pacific ocean. You know, they also don't even see. My geology professor in college told me that that was going to happen within like 10 years, that California is going to fall into the ocean as a result of the San Andreas. Here we are all these years later. Keep going. Oh, it's just 10 years, Megan. That seems about right. 10 years ago? That feels right. This might be the year. Almost there. You never know. This might be the year. And it may be biblical. Exactly. Yeah, no kidding.

1:23:22The rapture is upon us. Speaking of nudity in California, that brings me to Lena Dunham. Oh, Jesus. And I know this is, yeah, come on. I'm giving you lots of content for the Ruthless Variety Program. Lena Dunham is back. She's hawking a memoir that she's written, and she's got a lot of thoughts. She wants to talk about her body image because she's very large now. She's gained a lot of weight and she's not afraid to discuss it. She wants to talk about how the intense rage she faced about her body, like as a result of that show, Girls, etc., have like really affected her. And also here she is talking about how people cannot empathize with her on the weight issue.

1:24:10Here's top 47. Let's start there. And I felt sad that that person didn't have a sense that she said even just about being normatively beautiful, although like the, although the way that I was spoken about, I mean, that's what so many women's bodies look like. That's not what my body looks like anymore, but it was, I was like full of light. And if, and it's interesting, as I looked at the photos over the course of the show, I could see, it's such a cliche, but it was like the lights just went out. Somehow my health picture kept getting less clear, not more clear, which also makes it very, I understand very hard for other people to empathize with because it seems abstract, amorphous, like.

1:24:57They lose sympathy or think you're making it up. And the highest value is just to be able to go and go and go. and it took me a really long time to understand that wasn't like my only value that actually I could have a fragile body and a strong mind and have a lot to offer without um like betraying my own physical self over and over and over again okay now I pardon you if you're confused by her messaging but she appears to be saying that when she did girls which was a hit I don't know 10 15 years ago, whatever it was. She was objectified, you see. And she was thin back then. And people talked about her in a way that was objectifying and it created rage in her.

1:25:45And so now she's fat. Now she's morbidly obese, I guess, because she ate her feelings, because we all created rage by objectifying her when she looked like most women. And I am here to tell you that if anybody objectified Lena Dunham on the show Girls. It was Lena Dunham. Because let me tell you something. I watched a little of this show when it hit and my poor husband Doug was dragged along for the ride. And he was tolerating it. You know, he's a good guy. He's like, all right, fine. And then it was this scene that Doug said, I'm out. And I had my team pull it because I remember the moment vividly.

1:26:24Watch.

1:26:27it's a ping pong table i haven't played this a lot but i'm just i'm very naturally she's naked we've learned that people are impressed

1:26:46she's got underwear on but no top and she's exposed that so now she wants to do a revisionist people made comments about my hot body when I would look like that, which is why now I look like this. All society's fault for objectifying me. Guys, this is not a well person. You guys get the feeling that Megan, like when they produce the show, when we come on, that she's like, can I get these guys to break? Yeah. Like, can I break them? Like, maybe if we do Sidney Sweeney and then Lena Dunham, like they won't be able to talk about it. That's really tough bookends. A topless Lena Dunham. I'm not sure they can handle that.

1:27:27But nothing tells me that Doug Brunt is a normal dude. Quite like when he gets to that point, he's like, ah. Okay. Listen, I'm going to go watch baseball. I've had it. This is it. Oh, man. That was it. We never watched the show again. It was so in your face. You know, she – and the thing is, back then, she was kind of known as being a little chubby. Like, she talks about herself now. like she was Elle McPherson, but like she was known as being like a little on the chubby side, but like very, very quick to take off her clothes on throughout this series. And now she's like blaming whatever positive feedback there was about that body on her.

1:28:09She blames her eating problem on it. At least that's how I glean her. She's very, she's almost incomprehensible now. And on top of that, she's ripping on her co-star, Adam Driver, suggesting that he has been violent, that he's been throwing things around. Do we have that, you guys, where she accuses Adam Driver of being a hothead and throwing the chair? Oh, geez. Oh, it's not a stop, but she did allege that. So in any event, this is, again, to your point about the San Andreas, John. Yeah, shifting very soon. I you know the thing is about all of this and you alluded to the when you said I don't really remember any of us forcing her to go Be public and have a public career, but there's few things on this planet that I find more annoying than somebody who foists themselves in the public spotlight And then complains about the their own Way of dealing with it.

1:29:06It's like no dude. You could have just been an accountant yeah you could have done what I like it nobody's at your fat your thin Lena Dunham I haven't thought about her name since it was foisted upon me 15 years ago at that shitty show right you know like I've never announced she is she's back she's like well now I'm fat and unhappy because of all the things that right I never remember asking about it then or now about how she's doing she could have just written the show she didn't have to be topless playing ping-pong horribly by the way. She's very bad at ping pong. That's really what did it for Doug.

1:29:42Yeah, it was the acumen of the ping pong. No authenticity. He's a very good ping pong player. I'm sure you objected to that. I was just thrilled the guy had short time. Well, you know, another person who's been complaining, this gal I'm about to show you, to your point of trying to break you guys, she's complained, too, about her media coverage. She doesn't like when the press comes down on her. At one point, she actually, I think, said she was quitting music altogether together because she didn't like what people were saying about her. And that woman is Lizzo. And the reason I'm raising that is because Lizzo has decided to appear at Coachella recently.

1:30:18And she went, here's the, here's my team's note. Lizzo twerking with life-size La Boo Boo on stage at Coachella. I only understand two of those words. Here it is in SOT 40, right? Is it SOT 40? I think that's the one. It's either 40 or 39.

1:30:39Come on.

1:30:44It's like a big blue is like a stuck animal. They're basically... She's doing her twerks with him basically doing her from behind. I don't know. Here's another one. What are you doing to us? We're going to keep going until I hear the words surrender. Here is Saw 39.

1:31:30Entertainment media will see that and write up like, you know, So she's an accomplished flautist. And nobody will present it that way. The brave introduction of the flute in today's R &B world. Exactly. She's basically naked, jiggling like 100 pounds of fat through cellulite on stage with no clothes on while playing the flute. This passes for entertainment in 2026 America. Remember when they used to sing at these events like Coachella? That was nice. They'd go out there. Yeah. Remember those days? Or like, remember when it's like low cleavage was considered risque? And we'd have talks about whether, like, how low did it go?

1:32:14The J-Lo dress that went down to the navel. Oh, my God. Like, we are now at full exhibitionism. And you are a sexist if you notice or comment on it. That's really the other side of this coin. You know, I wasn't so sure about Lena Dunham's Dick Tracy get up with the silver ribbon on the lapel. Yeah, did you notice that? I wanted to talk about that, too. But I was kind of wishing that that was... She looked like Secretariat. Oh, my God. You can get away with it. We cannot. Oh, my Lord. You were wishing that Lizzo had something? Yeah, I was kind of wishing that was the costume they chose for the night of that concert that we just saw.

1:32:53Not much of a concert, though. And I think part of the problem here, Megan, you're talking about our exhibition culture, like an event like Coachella, it's not even about the music anymore. People show up there to be influencers or quasi influencers and take a bunch of pictures in the VIP lounge. It's not really about the music anymore. It's about being seen at the thing. So the quality of what you see on stage is kind of secondary or tertiary, really. Yeah. I think there's something in what Lizzo is doing where she's trying to say, like, I can be sexy even though I'm 250 pounds. But if I have to choose.

1:33:26I'm still saucy. But if I have to choose Lizzo or Lena Dunham. I'm going Lizzo. I'm going Lizzo. Yeah, you know what? There's talent there. Yeah. At least, you know, she's being her and she's not, you know, making it our fault. Right. She's not complaining that we were the problem. Should we drop Sydney Sweeney in there? Don't you dare. don't you dare talk negatively about Cindy, sweetie you haven't turned on her because of the poor decision making there's director's issues, there's producer's issues, she's an actress she's doing what she needs to do simply trying to make a living Megan, it's a hard world I think I think Lizzo is trying she's like making us think that this is sexy it's sexy whether you know it or not I'm going to get up there and I'm going to jiggle this enormous bottom with all the cellulite in your face.

1:34:22Like you will watch the jiggly cellulite and like it. Or you are a pig. Or you are the sexist pig. And I'm sorry, it's just, it's gross. It's like, it's disgusting. It's really, it's beyond exhibitionism. It's just like offensive. And it's not something to be celebrated. It's not to be celebrated with a skinny girl. It's not to be celebrated with a fat girl. But I really don't want to watch it. And then you play the flute. Really, truly. To your point, like, what a demeaning way, right? Like, can you imagine every other flautist at, like, you know, the philharmonic? Birth chair. Lazy boy. Can't we just play the instrument?

1:34:59Why do I? I feel like the tuba would have been more appropriate there. Yeah. Yes. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The old sousaphone. What's with the giant stuffed animal? That's the thing I don't understand. Well, those are a thing now. come from. Those are a thing now. They're apparently hard to get and you've got a whole rash of moms who are trying to get these things for the kids playing absorptive prices. Why do they have to get sexualized? Why did the one have to do her from behind? You know what's so crazy? Look at this. I know. I don't want to look at this. Maybe there's a nexus between you read a lot about how this youngest generation is not having sex.

1:35:42They're not having fun. and they don't know how to interact. They're all online or whatever. And then you see the toys banging Lizzo. Maybe we figured out where the problem is here. They're like, yeah, that doesn't look great. Yeah, that's weird. That's something maybe I'm not interested in. But it's kind of similar to the Sidney Sweeney thing, if you think about it, which is like sexualizing something having to do with children. Yeah, it's terrible. Like you take a child's toy, you put it on stage. And by the way, who owns La Boo Boo? because you would have had to have a licensing agreement to have the animal stand up there in the costume, right?

1:36:19Like if you can't just like show up, you can't have like a guy in a goofy costume show up at a Lizzo concert and have him start pretending to do her from the back. The what, Megan? The what? What were we doing? I didn't catch that whole thing. I don't know what she was going for, to be honest. I'm not sure exactly the sex act. I think you hit the nail on the head with your point about they're not singing. You know, there is an audience in this country who goes to a concert because they're like, oh, this person is going to sing. Oh, they have talent. Oh, there's a song that's pretty clever. And I like going to a concert to listen to that sort of thing.

1:36:58And yet the people who produce this sort of content are completely disconnected from that audience, which makes up the majority of our country. It's why, like, you know, I'm not going to a Taylor Swift concert, but so many people want to go to that because she sings and she does, you know, plays musical instruments. I mean, it's the same thing with Hollywood. And the clip or the screen cap of Sidney Sweeney, it's like they didn't even see the jeans ad, you know. And most people interacted with or talked about the jeans ad because it was a little bit more normal than what this show is about to, like, produce.

1:37:34I also think the shock factor is so high now. And a huge part of marketing all of this stuff forever has been, how do you get to public consciousness by just shocking someone? Yeah, well, that's probably. And now we've verged into just outright offensive in order to get anybody's attention at all. And I do think it's part of the marketing. It's sad. I wish there would be like a revolution of normal at some level, which I kind of thought that Gene's ad was, to be honest with you. yep one step forward two steps backward obviously um okay we have we have to finish with the straight of hormuz no just kidding we're gonna go i'm just gonna say that's a real transition normally you do the hard news first and then you move to the cultural stuff uh so i think we're just gonna stick right over culture for now you can in no world do you go from lizzo's enormous bottom to the straight.

1:38:31Thank you. It's never been done in the history of broadcasting, and it won't be done here. Okay, so we're going to stick with culture and Meghan Markle, your favorite topic. She, those two grifters are back at it. So do you remember when they were dating, they went on an Australia tour together, and that was the tour in which she allegedly famously said, I can't believe I'm not getting paid for this. I can't believe I'm doing this crap for free. And she was exhausted. She was like, oh my, it was so, I was so tired, you know, it was so hard for me because I was pregnant when we did that tour. And it was like, you were royal.

1:39:12You had a whole like cabal of people there to massage your feet at night. You know, no one cared that whatever you're pregnant. So she's back at it. They have terrible publicity. They're approval ratings are in the basement. And so they've gone to Australia to have another tour. This is where Diana crushed and she thinks she's Diana. So she's back there. I think the Aussies are just like grateful whenever anybody comes. I don't think they get visited that often. It's far. I just think anyone could, Lena Dunham could show up there. They'd be thrilled. When they stopped sending the prisoners, they welcomed everyone.

1:39:52Yeah. So she gets there and what does she do? She goes to a children's hospital where they focus on cancer victims and makes it into a photo op for her. Of course, God forbid they just go and visit the sick children in Melbourne. No, no, no, no, no. They have to have cameras and get there. cheers and applause reports the Daily Mail on their trip to meet young cancer patients in the hospital where they spent 45 minutes chatting. And we, of course, have video and pictures of it, guys, because does it ever matter if it's not on camera, right? Like, how many times have you gone to do a charitable work and you just make sure you've got your cameras in tow so that you get the credit.

1:40:48That's the bottom line. Sick, dude. I mean, but that's been, it's kind of what you've come to expect, right? It's unearned contracts to do Netflix movies and podcasts and things like that. And then it is attempting to portray something you are not, which is a selfless individual. Meanwhile, I mean, everybody knows the backdrop of all that. I mean, I guess people like to show up and still see them. I don't know. I don't know. The whole thing kind of feels schizophrenic. It's like, did you want to be part of the royal family or not? Right. You know, like, I thought you didn't like doing any of these things.

1:41:25So why don't you just go away? But I think at the end of the day, a person like Meghan Markle is just addicted to the attention. And so she's going to try to get that attention any way she can. Like Holmes said, I mean, when they made this whole schism with the royal family, It was nothing but Netflix deals and a podcast that never got produced and all these sorts of things. And it all fell apart. And so now she feels like she's sort of crawling back to the public consciousness by doing all the things she complained about when she was in the royal family. It makes no sense. She's a fake royal now.

1:41:58Yes. So she shows up after the children's cancer hospital. She went solo as she served frittata at a woman's refuge, wearing$1 ,100 heart earrings, Princess Diana's Cartier watch, and a Tiffany gold bracelet. So there she is, just one of you. She said, just call me Meg. Meanwhile, we know that she requires you to yell out Duchess of Sussex before you meet her at a townhouse in New York City as a journalist, just the two of you. So who is she kidding? When the cameras are there, though, oh, it's just Meg. Just call me Meg. And she wears her Cartier jewelry while she's helping women's shelter females who come to see her.

1:42:41Nice. Right on brand. And then finally, she jets off to do her, like, little, her girls weekend. It's$1 ,400. That's in pounds. So it's, what, about$2 ,000 per person girls weekend, a retreat in Sydney, which they billed as being sold out almost as soon as it started. it's not sold out. They're still begging people to buy tickets. They cannot get just the 300 person event sold. The retreat has failed. Just an intimate 300 guests, which they can't get people to fill. And no one wants to spend her best life weekend with Meghan Markle because they know she's a grifter. It's$3 ,100 for a VIP ticket,$2 ,700 for a regular ticket.

1:43:28If you go, if you pay for the VIP experience, she will give you a group photo. All the VIPs can spend several hundred dollars and you just get a group. You don't even get a one-on-one. Not like on the MK tour. Our audience knows that's not how it went with us. So you tell me, is her 15 minutes finally up, guys, or what? I think so. You know, the last time her name, before you've raised it, came up, I saw an ex. Did she date Rory McIlroy at one point oh did are you did she oh well there's pictures of them together they were at least friends but you know she sort of has a type a little bit if if she likes the limeys well and rich and famous well yeah he's a star effort sort of sort of so to speak which i think is very consistent with what you've just outlined for us megan so i appreciate it yeah i mean harry was the first dope to actually go for it she tried with a lot of guys he it's just like swalwell he told that one accuser, the one who's in shadow on CNN, I've never cheated on my wife with anyone other than you.

1:44:32The worst line in the history of lines. And now this woman too predated that. He's cheated so many times. Women, don't believe that. Don't believe my wife doesn't understand me. Don't believe you were the first one ever. Don't believe I love you when he's got a wife and children who are not you. So we end where we begin. Again, Harry fell for it. Lessons from Megan. Good advice. There we go. I didn't hear the magic word of surrender, but it's never too late. You got close. You got really close. This was as close as it's been. It's great to see you guys. Great to see you. Great to see you. All right.

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Megyn Kelly opens the show discussing new accusers going public about creepy Eric Swalwell behavior, the Democratic elite now running him out of politics completely, and more. Then Steve Hilton, GOP candidate for California governor, to discuss how the Democrat establishment knifed Eric Swalwell to try to stop his California governor race rise, what to make of alleged Swalwell victims coming forward now, how Nancy Pelosi is trying to pretend she wasn't aware of Swalwell’s behavior, the overall state of the governor race, how Eric Swalwell was protected by Democrats until he was no longer useful, the disgusting corporate media response to the story now that the floodgates are open, the Eric Swalwell story taking a horrifying turn with new accusers coming forward publicly, new accusations that could lead to criminal charges, Sydney Sweeney dressed up as a baby in disgusting scene from the "Euphoria" season premiere, the stories about the creator of the show inserting nudity when it's not necessary, Lena Dunham and Lizzo, Meghan Markle pretending she’s a royal as she begins her trip down under, her treating a children's hospital visit as a photo op, and more.


 

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