Disturbing New Details About Attempted Trump Assassin Thomas Crooks, Emmys Disasters, and Harry and Meghan's Rocky UK Start | Ep. 1398

15 Sep 2026 · 1 h 42 min · 31 chapters

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In short

Megyn Kelly discusses (1) the Emmys’ “lack of politics” and multiple red-carpet fashion controversies, (2) new details in the July 13, 2024 attempted Trump assassination involving Thomas Crooks, and (3) Harry and Meghan’s return to the UK, alleging public-relations missteps, security disputes, and harm to their children.

Guest backgrounds

No named guests appear in the transcript. Megyn Kelly references “Rob Shooter” (frequent guest on her show/associated with The Nerve) and “Dan Wooten” (UK reporter/anchors Outspoken), but they are not introduced as in-studio guests.

Key claims

  • Emmys: politics were effectively “left at home,” and several outfits were criticized as inappropriate or unflattering.
  • Crooks: an anonymous donor reportedly paid for Crooks’s cremation; lawmakers allegedly wanted to see his body/remains after the shooting.
  • Harry and Meghan: the King’s letter reportedly wasn’t shared in advance as they wanted; Kelly alleges their UK return includes doxing, fabricated security threats, and withdrawing children from school after two days.

Notable examples

  • Mariska Hargitay’s Emmy hosting look and her 15-year-old daughter’s dress are criticized as sexually inappropriate.
  • Shailene Woodley’s low-cut Emmy outfit and gloves are called a “thumbs down.”
  • Matthew Rhys allegedly forgot to thank Carrie Russell twice in Emmy speeches.
  • Harry/Meghan: Kelly cites claims about their Cotswolds location being revealed and school withdrawal due to traffic/security concerns.

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Chapters

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Emmys Insanity Recap

1:17 to 2:25

Megyn discusses the chaotic nature of the recent Emmys.

“It's incredible how many people clicked on those.”

Revelations on Trump Assassination Attempt

2:25 to 4:25

Details emerge about the attempted assassination of Trump involving an anonymous donor.

“I'm sorry, but we still we still don't have real answers in this case.”

Mariska Hargitay's Emmy Appearance

4:36 to 7:37

Megyn critiques Mariska Hargitay's daughter’s outfit choice at the Emmys.

“We're going to start today with the Emmys because it's fresh on the mind.”

Emmys Politics and Self-Censorship

7:37 to 10:33

Discussion on the lack of political statements during the Emmys.

“Another 13-year-old, in her case, who has been totally exploited by two fame-hungry parents.”

Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell at the Emmys

10:33 to 14:00

Megyn shares insights about Matthew Rhys' Emmy wins and his relationship with Keri Russell.

“But they were intoxicating in that show, The Americans, which Doug and I both loved.”

The Complexities of Celebrity Relationships

14:00 to 16:40

Discussion on the authenticity of celebrity relationships and public perceptions.

“You know, she sends her fellow nominees, you know, Gloria Steinem quotes about, you know, being linked and not, you know, judged.”

Emmys Fashion Critique

16:40 to 19:05

Critique of fashion choices from the Emmys, including Shailene Woodley.

“There was some buzz around the outfit of Shailene Woodley.”

Notable Emmy Acceptance Speech Oversights

19:05 to 23:28

Exploration of celebrities forgetting to thank their spouses during acceptance speeches.

“I never even heard of Meg Stalter before, but she's apparently an American comedian, actress, and singer.”

The State of Late Night Comedy

23:28 to 24:21

Discussion on the state of late-night comedy and award trends.

“You'll be shocked to learn Stephen Colbert won the late night, you know, rundown.”

Harry and Meghan's Public Image Struggles

24:21 to 28:00

Analysis of Harry and Meghan's attempts to navigate their public roles in the UK.

“And I want to talk about what's happening with Harry and Meghan.”
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Public Figures and Privacy Expectations

28:00 to 29:00

Discussion on the expectations of public figures regarding privacy and responsibilities.

“We're famous celebrities is really what they're trying to say.”

Critique of Harry and Meghan's Choices

29:00 to 31:04

Analysis of Harry and Meghan's return to the UK and public perception of their actions.

“They want little Archie to bond with little Louie, who are about the same age.”

Security Claims and Paparazzi Issues

31:04 to 33:54

Debate on the legitimacy of Harry and Meghan's security claims and their interactions with paparazzi.

“Okay, so now they're over there and Miss Privacy has posted repeated videos online with little Easter eggs about where Miss Privacy is located and all of England has figured out exactly where they live.”

Children's Uprooting and Impact

33:54 to 36:12

Exploration of the effects of uprooting children and the responsibilities of parents.

“Remember, they tried to spin that nonsense whereupon every New Yorker or any American who's been in New York immediately called bullshit saying you picked the wrong city to make that lie up in.”

Concerns Over Children's Well-being

36:12 to 42:00

Discussion on the potential risks to children's well-being in light of parental decisions about privacy and public life.

“Even with the paparazzi, they won't publish your kids' faces if you don't publish your kids' faces.”

Harry and Meghan's UK Struggles

42:00 to 46:30

Discussion about the challenges Harry and Meghan face after moving to the UK.

“in New York, or there's some absolutely compelling reason that really can't be escaped.”

Critique of Royal Security Decisions

46:30 to 50:58

Analysis of Harry and Meghan's children's school situation and security measures.

“Every kid has a little nerves going into school for the first day.”

Details of Thomas Crooks' Case

52:20 to 56:00

Insights into the case of Thomas Crooks and his background.

“It's got tons of awesome features like offline downloads.”

Understanding Thomas Crooks' Emotional Development

56:00 to 1:04:44

Explore the emotional challenges and behavioral issues of Thomas Crooks as discussed by the hosts.

“and that his stoic son rarely expressed strong emotions, hardly ever laughed, and was very difficult to read.”

The Shift in Thomas Crooks' Interests and Political Views

1:04:44 to 1:10:00

Analyze the concerning shift in Thomas Crooks' interests and political ideologies.

“because he doesn't know how, and he's extremely odd and ill-fitting.”

Analyzing Thomas Crooks' Background

1:10:00 to 1:16:03

Explore the troubling signs and background of attempted assassin Thomas Crooks.

“was turned by some foreign country, someone who may have intervened on his social media, and the facts haven't all been disclosed, why they may think that all of these are clues supportive of that theory.”

Investigation into the Assassination Attempt

1:16:03 to 1:18:16

Discussion on the investigation and political implications surrounding the assassination attempt on Trump.

“Matthew explains in other parts of the federal records viewed by the Post that he was unemployed at the time of the shooting.”

The Tragic Story of Hayden Panettiere

1:18:16 to 1:22:28

Learn about the suspected overdose of Hayden Panettiere and the dangers of fentanyl.

“It's been dribs and drabs ever since, which is why people still have such questions and then they'll get dismissed as conspiracy theorists.”

The Tragic Story of Hayden Panettiere

1:22:33 to 1:23:39

Learn about the suspected overdose of Hayden Panettiere and the dangers of fentanyl.

“and they will do everything they can to help.”

Political Insights from Jake Tapper's Interview

1:25:48 to 1:28:33

Megyn discusses Jake Tapper's unconventional interview with Gavin Newsom.

“Only on the Megyn Kelly channel, Sirius XM 111, and on the Sirius XM app.”

Lindsey Clancy Juror's Controversial Decisions

1:28:33 to 1:31:30

Insight into the reactions and implications of a juror's holdout in the Lindsey Clancy case.

“Back to Lindsey Clancy, because the holdout, I mean, the reason we call him the holdout jurors, because we don't want to name him.”

Juror's Background and Its Impact

1:31:30 to 1:34:21

Exploration of the juror's past and its potential influence on the case dynamics.

“Well, now swoops in the Boston Globe that uses the name of the holdout juror.”

U.S. Open Finals Review

1:34:21 to 1:36:33

Megyn shares her thoughts on the recent U.S. Open finals and player performances.

“Okay, a couple of other things I want to hit.”

Ben Shelton's Classy Victory Speech

1:36:33 to 1:38:04

Discussion on Ben Shelton's victory speech and its significance in the context of race.

“He's got like his temper, which is fun to watch.”

Ben Shelton's U.S. Open Experience

1:38:04 to 1:41:00

Explore Ben Shelton's emotional journey during the U.S. Open and his stance on race issues.

“On Sunday, you will step foot on Arthur Ashe Stadium looking to take your very first Grand Slam title.”

Taylor Townsend's Representation in Tennis

1:41:00 to 1:44:26

Discuss Taylor Townsend's pride in representation and the politics surrounding her patch endorsement.

“If he wants to bring it up or his coach pulls you aside and says, why don't you ask this?”
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1:07Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We've got some interesting stories to get to today, including more of the usual insanity at the Emmys last night. And remember when I took apart the pit for an hour earlier this month? It's incredible how many people clicked on those. People are into this story because it was basically the deconstruction of a woke indoctrination factory masquerading as a television show. Well, you won't be surprised to learn it's the best outstanding drama again. Again, this shit will get you awards every time in Hollywood. If you want to go check out the videos of which I speak, they're on our YouTube page right now.

1:55Steve, can you tell me what date that we dropped those? Because it was like, it was on a Thursday, I think two weeks ago. I want to say it was, this Thursday will be three weeks ago. It was September 3rd. So I was right. Anyway, check out some of those videos. We did a whole show on this. And they love it. They can't get enough of it in Hollywood. You're shocked, shocked, I know. Plus, an unbelievable report today about attempted Trump assassin Thomas Crooks. Among the stunning revelations, an anonymous donor paid for the cremation of his body. What? What? What? I'm sorry, but we still we still don't have real answers in this case.

2:38And now we're getting drips and drabs like this. An anonymous donor paid for his cremation, which you may recall lawmakers on Capitol Hill who had been trying to probe more into the shooting, the actual shooting and then the attempted assassination of President Trump had been asking to see the body. They wanted to see the remains, and they were very angry when they found out that he'd been cremated, and the body had been released to his family, I think it was 10 days after he was killed by a sniper, after he tried to kill Trump and did manage to kill Corey Combratore and shoot two others. And now we learn that that cremation was paid for by an anonymous donor.

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4:41and it's fun. Now, I've got to start with Mariska Hargaday. Everyone knows her from the Law & Order SVU TV show, which was excellent. I think it's still on. I don't know. It's the SVU. I mean, like the whole series is Law & Order. We all grew up with it. Anyway, Mariska Hargaday has been playing this character for many, many years, and she was the host of the Emmys last night and showed up in a red dress that was channeling her deceased mother, Jane Mansfield. She's like one of the original Nepo babies, although I don't like that term. I do think like if your kid gets into your line of business and you pave the way using all your connections, it's probably an okay term.

5:26But if your kid just is your kid, like running around living his life or her life, then I don't think Nepo babies applies. Am I right or am I wrong? Megan at megankelly.com. Anyway, she shows up with her child, and that's, this isn't, I'm not calling her child a Nepo baby. I'm saying she's a Nepo baby because her mother was Jane Mansfield. Anywho, she shows up with her 15-year-old daughter at her side. Nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry, would you please look at how her 15-year-old child was dressed? For the listening audience, for lack of a better term, Her tits are hanging out of her dress and she's only 15.

6:08I'm sorry, but that's what we're seeing here. Like this child has, you know, a chest to speak of. And I know that because I can see the entire top half of it. I'm sorry, but this is very inappropriate for a 15-year-old girl. What could you be thinking? If my daughter ever wore that kind of a dress downstairs and wanted to go to an event with me, I would say, get your ass back upstairs right now. And by the way, not only is that not what happened, clearly this was designed and approved in advance by her mother. You don't, like, I'm hosting the Emmys and I'm just going to wing my fashion and the fashion of my daughter, who's going to be my date, you know, on my arm.

6:54No, they had, I'm sure, a stylist work with them, a designer, design the gowns possibly. they said that it was channeling an actual dress worn by Jane Mansfield at, I don't know, in one of her movies. I'm not that familiar with Jane Mansfield, but that's what they say. And the mother's chest is more covered up than the daughter's. Okay, there's the picture of Jane Mansfield in her original low-cut dress, and she was ample bosomed. The daughter's obviously not Mariska's biological child. She's black. Mariska's white. But the point is simply, she's too exposed. This is an insane choice for a child.

7:35She's channeling Northwest vibes. Another 13-year-old, in her case, who has been totally exploited by two fame-hungry parents. Yes, it's Kanye too. Sorry, it is, because he also showed up at Northwest's recent concert where she looked ridiculous. She did not look like a 13-year-old. She's not living the life of a 13-year-old. They want her to be a pop star. The exploitation by these parents who need not only, in their case, their own fame, but to, like, jones it up off of their child's fame is very sick. It's sick. Let your child be a kid. There was a quote by Northwest in a recent interview saying, what I really want to be is a Starbucks barista.

8:27Why don't you let her do that? Where the cameras aren't constantly on her. We're not putting the pressure of being a pop star on her. Her dream is not to have a gold grill in her mouth and a piercing in between her eyes, which is apparently what she's asking for right now. She's already got a bunch of other questionable piercings and marks all over her body. I don't know what these parents are doing, but it's not going to end well. It's not. But it's not really Kim Kardashian's fault because when your mother allegedly, reportedly, markets a sex tape that you're in and wants the world to see your hoochie and some man on top of it, this is probably the kind of mother you turn out to be.

9:08It's not a great one. But anyway, back to the Emmys. So thumbs down on the outfit choice for your young teenager, Mariska. Uh, per Rob Shooter, our pal and frequent guest of the Maureen Callahan program, The Nerve, occasional guest of the MK show as well. There were no politics, virtually none at the Emmys last night because there had been a specific instruction. Leave your politics at home. He says no one was muzzled. They just knew which way the wind was blowing. He writes when even Stephen Colbert does not mention Trump, you know, everyone got the memo. This is great. This is a huge victory for the conservatives of America and right-leaning independents who have, with the power of their thumbs on the remote control, taught these losers a lesson.

10:01Do whatever you want to do. Go ahead. Wax poetic about how evil Trump is. Then you can fuck right off. We're not going to be watching. And guess what? We have Nielsen boxes, too. Our downloads count just as much as anybody else's. So go ahead. Try to go it without us. See how that works. Not very well. So it's great. What a huge victory where they self-censored out the politics. They understood, as he writes, which way the wind was blowing. And there were no long speeches about how bad, evil, Hitlerian Trump was, etc. Great. This is the road home, folks. there was the biggest the biggest sort of item making news unfortunately involves two stars whom I really love Matthew Reese I just think is the best he is the best and those of us who watch the Americans and love the Americans have been on to these two for many years now long before the Widow's Bay and like all the the the buzz around Matthew in particular carries of course, in The Diplomat.

11:08But they were intoxicating in that show, The Americans, which Doug and I both loved. Here they are on the cover of Variety from a few weeks ago. If you look at this whole photo spread, you will see a couple that appears to be madly in love. Their interview with Variety, where they sat down and talked about their careers, equally charming. They both totally adore each other. The relationship began under questionable circumstances. I'm not going to lie. They, they swear, they swear, swear, swear that she was separated from her husband. She was with her husband while they were shooting the Americans, I think in 2012.

11:44But then in, in 2013, she announced a separation right around the time they got together. So, okay. But they say there was no overlap and it seems like everything's good between Keri Russell and her ex. So it's possible. I moved out from my home with my first husband in, was it December 2005 or January 2006? Anyway, and I met Doug July of 2006, though I can document that I met Doug that we didn't even know each other. Unlike her situation where they were starring as husband and wife in very hot and steamy love scenes. Okay, so whatever, it doesn't matter. They've been together for 10 years now.

12:26The point is they were at the Emmys last night together, and Matthew Rhys won not once but twice. He won, hold on, let's see, Outstanding Lead Actor in a Limited or Anthology Series or Movie for his role in The Beast and Me. So good with Claire Danes. Excellent little series if you want to watch it. He's worth watching in anything. Such a good actor. and also one outstanding lead actor in a comedy series for his role in Widow's Bay, which I don't watch, even because I just have limited hours in the day, but he's apparently very, very good in it. My note here is saying they've been together since 2014, so maybe I have my years off, but whatever, what I said stands.

13:15He got up there both times to accept his award, and both times he forgot to thank one person, his wife, Carrie Russell. So he got up there, gave a speech, did not thank her, then sat back down and then he got back up there again and once again, forgot to thank her. After the fact, he would make a joke about it as follows, Sat 8B. It's not playful. It's all serious. I bet a lot of money on myself. The kids ran a book. I was odds on favor. It's going to be a rough week for her, and I'm sorry. I don't know if I am, to be perfectly honest. You know, she's always the class act. You know, she sends her fellow nominees, you know, Gloria Steinem quotes about, you know, being linked and not, you know, judged.

14:11I'm the one going, woo-hoo! She's always really the winner, if I'm perfectly honest. I think next year she might get one. That's my bet. Okay, so he's just totally charming. And they absolutely adore each other. And I don't care whether he thanked her in the speech or not. He clearly loves her. I mean, adores her. Look at the variety photo spread and tell me that's not a couple in love. Though I will add one asterisk. I used to think that about Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban. And I will never forget, there was a quote directly attributable to Nicole Kidman in one of the magazines about their marriage.

14:56Someone had asked her about whether they text a lot. And she said, that's just so foreign to us, like to suggest that we would communicate like that with one another. It just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of our relationship. and I remember being like, that's a weird comment. I mean, I'm madly in love with my husband and we text all the time. Like, what are you saying? People who are in love don't text? They do. Sometimes they have to. Sometimes it's the easiest way of making a point to somebody. Sometimes you share something from X or something from Instagram, et cetera, and you wanna share it with your loved one.

15:32I don't, like, what is the point? And then, of course, within, I don't know, a year and a half, they were having a massive alimony fight that spilled over into the pages of all the tabloids. I mean, a pretty contentious divorce from all reports about it and ongoing sagas about who is going to pay what to whom and in what amounts and so on. Like, very ugly. And I was left thinking, what about your wonderful marriage? The one that's so strong you never even text. What happened to that? Of course, it was all bullshit. You can't believe anything these Hollywood stars put out there. It's all propaganda.

16:11So that's my asterisk on the Variety photo spread, even though I still believe in love. And as I look at those two, you know, I recognize it. So I hope they don't prove me wrong. I'm a little worried if it started in an affair. She, again, having been married, and I don't think he was at the time, because you lose them how you get them, ladies. You lose them how you get them. So fingers crossed. Let's leave it at that. Back to the Emmys last night. There was some buzz around the outfit of Shailene Woodley. I know her from Big Little Lies. Perhaps you watched that series. She also starred in films like The Fault in Our Stars and also the Divergent series.

16:59Here is what she wore to the camis. I don't know what that is. The top looks slightly like a wrestling singlet. It's extremely low cut and it almost doesn't look intentionally so. It almost looks like she got attacked with some scissors or something. I'm not sure, but it's very, very low cut. And I don't know. It's like too droopy around the middle. Unless you've got that super tight middle with a teeny tiny waist. And trust me, I'm not one of those people. You really can't pull off a top like this because it gathers right around your belly. And that's generally not where any of us want attention going.

17:44It's not a great place to have the eye brought to. I think there's an attempt to distract us with the cleavage, but I'm just going to say only the Halle Berry's of the world can really do that. There's a few others, Zendaya, I don't know. But unless you've got like an absolutely stunning rack. It's probably not a great idea to show that much of the boobs, like that much of the girls. A little, I'm fine with a little. I've shown a little in pictures, but like a little goes a long way, I'd say. And then the pants, are they pants? They look like pants to me with, I don't know if that is cheetah, dots, leopard.

18:24I can't tell from any of the pictures. I just know it's ugly. It's ugly. It looks like a tan burlap sack that she put on not one, but both legs, which is also pooling on the floor as if she didn't have the extra money to hire a tailor to come and give her a proper hem. The hair is not doing her any favors either. Not sure what's going on there, but the whole thing is unflattering. And then to top it all off, Some terrible stylist said, why don't we add elbow length brown leather gloves? Which also doesn't work. I'm sorry. I like you, Shailene. It's a thumbs down. I blame your stylist. Not you.

19:05Then there's Meg Stalter. I never even heard of Meg Stalter before, but she's apparently an American comedian, actress, and singer. The only reason she came to my attention is because of what she chose to wear to the Emmys. And I would say to you, if you ever get nominated for an Emmy, the last thing you should wear is this. Literally the last thing. It's her as a little Emmy statue. It's like literally her holding up the gold to match the coveted statue that all the other stars were trying to win. And this is back to the old Malcolm Gladwell. If you want your kid to wind up a winner, don't name them win.

19:41Name them loser. Like it tends to be the opposite of what you project. It's the same rule as like when you're driving home and the traffic's flowing and you're getting all the breaks. Don't say anything about it. Everybody knows that. Keep your mouth shut. As soon as you utter, oh my God, the traffic's amazing. We all know what's about to happen to you. So you don't wear the Golden Globe outfit to the Golden Globes, whatever it is, Emmy outfit to the Emmys because you're basically guaranteeing that you're not going to win. And indeed, she was nominated for a primetime Emmy Award. She played Kayla in the HBO Max comedy Hacks, and she did not win.

20:25Now, one other point on the Matthew Rhys double forgetting of Keri Russell. I have to tell you, I feel compelled to mention that this has happened before with other actors. And, you know, I don't know if it's a curse or the forgetting is a subliminal telegraph of where the marriage is. But I do have to tell you, this has happened before and it hasn't ended well. So there's reason for concern. We should say a little prayer for a marriage, which I admire from the outside. Hilary Swank at the 2000 Oscars. This is the classic example. She won best actress for Boys Don't Cry. She thanked numerous people, but she omitted her husband, Chad Lowe.

21:11Guess what? Divorced. Splitsville. Sean Penn at the 2009 Oscars when he won Best Actor for Milk, Harvey Milk. He did not thank his then wife, Robin Wright Penn, who, let me just cut to the chase, now goes by Robin Wright. Didn't work out. Divorce. Emma Thompson, who I love from Sense and Sensibility, among many other great movies, in 1993, won the Oscar for Best Actress for her role in Howard's End. And she praised her co-star, Anthony Hopkins, but did not thank her then-husband, Kenneth Branagh, who it turns out was reportedly cheating on her with every skirt in Hollywood, divorced. Not great.

22:00Then, just one more for good or bad measure, Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck got up there when he, what was he getting nominated for? The 2013 Oscars. I don't remember what he was nominated for. What was it for? Maybe Argo, yeah. And he was married to Jennifer Garner at the time, and here's how that went. I want to thank my wife, who I don't normally associate with Iran, but I want to thank you for working on our marriage for 10 Christmases. It's good. It is work, but it's the best kind of work. And there's no one I'd rather work with. Oh, my God. OK, you didn't exactly have to be, you know, Dr. Ruth to sniff out that that marriage might need some help.

22:56Um, that didn't work out. As we all know, they are divorced, hard divorce. Didn't talk about how much he loves her, how grateful he is to her, how thankful he is. Wanted to thank her only for the work that they've been doing on their marriage for 10 years. Can you imagine if Doug ever got up there and started talking? I'd be like, no, it's a no, it's nay. I'm the marriage. A talk, The work A. We are not telegraphing what we want to telegraph. So that's the Emmys. Congrats to them for not getting political. You'll be shocked to learn Stephen Colbert won the late night, you know, rundown. What a shock, obviously.

23:39And I'm sure next year Kimmel will get it because have you heard Kimmel's been canceled now? Okay. I mean, obviously he's been canceled. They got him past the whole drama of six paid days off when his free speech was canceled by Trump's FCC commissioner. And as soon as they got past that controversy, they canceled his ass. So he's done. And I'm sure he'll be getting that award next year. And this award is maybe not the harbinger of the end of your career, but it's like your Timex watch at the retirement party. Goodbye. bye, farewell, here you go. You won the award. Enjoy it. Enjoy sitting at it, remembering when you were relevant.

24:19I'm sure you'll enjoy that. Okay. I want to keep going. There is plenty more news to get to. And I want to talk about what's happening with Harry and Meghan. Okay. Because a lot of shit has gone down. Can I just show you, this is my Harry and Meghan packet that I've been trying to get to over the past like two weeks, but we've had a lot to get to. There's been a lot of breaking news and the stories we've been covering, and I haven't been able to do it. So today I want to spend some time. These two grifters have already upset the majority of Great Britain with their antics over there. As you may recall when we last left off, the king had issued a statement to everybody in Great Britain saying, FYI, nothing's changed about their status.

25:05They're private citizens and they're not working royals. and you should behave accordingly. As for security, that's being dealt with by, you know, this other group that looks into whether royals get security. That's not the king's call. And that's that because apparently they'd been trying to book themselves at all these events and people have been calling the palace like, are we treating them like we would treat Will and Kate? Like, what are they now? And so the king issued a sort of blanket statement saying, nothing's changed from the way it was six years ago when they stormed out in the Megxit drama.

25:40They're private citizens and they basically don't have anything to do with us. I mean, they have these titles, but that's it. They're not working royals, so they're on their own. Then these two made sure to leak it to the press that they were pissed. They were angry that it wasn't shared with them in advance, as if the king has an obligation to share his thoughts on what's happening with the royal family, with this Nimrod who left them and called them all racists, along with his loser wife. But it turns out the king had shared the letter with the Duke and Duchess of Duplicity. He had shared it with them an hour and 10 minutes earlier.

26:16Basically, CC'd them, gave them an hour heads up on what he had planned to issue. So it was a courtesy, and they were mad because they felt that they should be part of the drafting process. Who do they think they are? They've wanted nothing to do with him for years. They paid one visit to him like weeks before they announced they were moving back to the UK. And now they want him to run his formal letters by them for their fucking approval before he issues it. That's absurd. It didn't happen. Good for the king who understands it looks like his place finally. And then they ran around issuing their own obvious statements to the press, pointing out that they prefer public figures to private citizens.

27:05Now, Mr. and Mrs. Privacy, which is the lie they've been putting to us for six years, want us to know they find that term offensive and they want to be referred to as public figures. I can't. I can't with these two. Remember the South Park? We want privacy. We want privacy. The greatest little vignette ever to embody their lies and their character, you know, as they immerse themselves in parade and public event after public event. They don't want privacy. They never wanted privacy. They want privacy the way Hoda wants to be at home with her family. They wanted fame and fortune without having to go to the ribbon cutting ceremonies.

27:51Hello, everybody knows that. But the gall, like the humiliation of having to come out and say, we're not private citizens. We're public figures. We're famous celebrities is really what they're trying to say. We're famous. We're not private. What are you saying? How offensive. And what a nit to pick in the king's letter. Like what? It just goes to show you how much bad will there is. You know, if she's such a public figure, why doesn't she just own that? Why? Why did they have to act so aghast at the fact that they would be expected to do some of the boring public figure responsibilities if they stayed in the UK?

28:38No, they've been telling everyone that they wanted their privacy for six years. And now only because the jig is up. I mean, they're back in the UK. Clearly, they're back in the UK for among other reasons. She wants the kids to be with their far more relevant, more powerful, richer, cooler cousins, the children of Will and Kate. They want little Archie to bond with little Louie, who are about the same age. They want Princess Charlotte to be like a big sister to Lilibet, who we shouldn't even call her that. We should not be calling her that. The queen didn't like it, but they stole the name, and now they're trying to dine out on it.

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29:22They want to be in the country where some people do care about royals. And you and I know exactly what happened in Montecito. You know exactly how it would be for you and your family. If you met the royals, this is back when they did Mexit, you might have been like, oh, cool, some royals are here. that's an actual Prince of England. Neat. That's the woman they write all the bad stuff about. Okay, let's see if we like her. We're going to have our dinner with her. I'm talking about the Montecito neighbors. Going to have a cocktail, whatever it is. Time two, you might be like, there they are again.

29:51By time three, we in America are over your fake royalty. Fake, because you're not doing any of the business of the royal family and they've excommunicated you because you called them all racist and you left without wanting to do any of the work, but took a bunch of millions on your way. We don't care. Even with the real royals, it's like King Charles came over. We were super nice to him. He was very charming when he went before Congress. But like, we don't really care about your royal title. It's kind of a novelty. You know, it's like, oh, this is interesting. What does he do? What does it mean to be a royal?

30:21He gets to wear crown jewels. That's neat. And then a couple of times into it, I think every American virtually would be like, there's George, Charles, Louis, Wills. And certainly with those losers out in Montecito, where, by the way, we have our own American royalty. I mean, it's a who's who of billionaires who live in this. They really won't care. They didn't like it. I guarantee you this was the problem. They didn't like being irrelevant. No one thought that they were special because they're not. And worse than that, they are grifters. They're narcissistic grifters where they think the whole world revolves around them.

31:04Why weren't we consulted by the king? Because you're nobodies. Why would he consult you? Okay, so now they're over there and Miss Privacy has posted repeated videos online with little Easter eggs about where Miss Privacy is located and all of England has figured out exactly where they live. And so she's doxed herself. So now everybody knows that they live in the Cotswolds and they've figured out where they're sending their children. There aren't that many schools where they could be going. And they started school on Thursday. And guess what? They claim that now the kids have to come out of school because the drive to school was so covered in traffic that it's not safe.

31:54It's not safe for, it's safe for your loser children, people of England, but it's not safe for these children because people want to kill them. I want us to know people are out to kill their children and them. Unspecified who. The only proof we've ever seen of this is some memo from Harry's staff. Okay, sure. And by the way, it's so absurd. He's like terroristic threats about Harry. He's on an Al Qaeda target list. I mean, didn't I tell you about the time that Doug got a call from the FBI? This is years ago, saying he was on such a list. Doug? Why? He's an author. He writes first fiction, now nonfiction.

32:40It was the weirdest call ever. But like, sure, we could have used that if we were grifters like these two to amp up our our security. And in their case, they want the British taxpayers to fund it because they're using these bizarre little, oh, I got a threat here. I got a threat there. I guarantee you, I'm sorry to say this. I'm not proud of it, but I guarantee you the death threats I've gotten over the last year are far worse and more specific and real than the ones those two have gotten. I guarantee you. And you know what I did? I hired security. I pay for them myself, Self, me, out of my pocket with money that I earned.

33:17That's how we do it. That's how Taylor Swift, arguably the most famous woman in the world, does it. Our government does not protect her. Sorry, it doesn't. She pays for it with money that she gets from singing her songs. That's how it works. Apparently, we missed that lesson when we were growing up in allegedly Compton and the Castle in his case. So they want the British taxpayers to fund it. So they came up with what are clearly a bunch of fake security threats. And now they came up on the heels of their fake car chase in New York. Remember, they tried to spin that nonsense whereupon every New Yorker or any American who's been in New York immediately called bullshit saying you picked the wrong city to make that lie up in.

34:03You cannot have a car chase in New York City. Oh, we have that? Yes, let's watch it. Do we have that pap on the scooter again? Yes, ma 'am. Oh, we do. Same guy? Same guy. Oh, my God. I watched him go into this park. Are they with us? Yes, sir. He was just ahead. There's a lot of people who think they've got such a problem with paparazzi. Yeah, there was the guys in the basement of the building, too, as we were doing that walk. They were recording, too, just so you're aware. Back in my mom's day, it was physical harassment. You know, cameras in your face following you, chasing you.

34:44Just following us. This path. Worst case scenario, safety first. Worst case scenario, we're going from one garage to another. Like, it's... It's one guy on a Vespa. Safety first. That guy's more likely to get hurt than you two losers. Literally one guy on a Vespa. It was a fake car chase that they used to try to amp up the drama in their Netflix series where they sold out their whole family for$100 million. Great. Nice. No, I wouldn't do it. The average person wouldn't either. And they were never under any threat. And they're not under any threat now. They're not. And if they are, they can pay for it.

35:27Again, like Julia Roberts, I've mentioned her before. She's an actual star, unlike Meghan Markle. and she, there was a report in the papers, I don't know, 10 years ago, I can't remember, but around there, where she was bringing her child to school and the paparazzi was photographing her child. And Julia Roberts went over and knocked on the window of the pap and said, do not photograph my child. My child is not a public figure. And while the paparazzo could have overruled her, if your child is on a public street or in any public venue, they do have the right to photograph him or her. It's unfortunate, but it's the truth.

36:09He didn't. He didn't publish because there is, it's an unwritten agreement. Even with the paparazzi, they won't publish your kids' faces if you don't publish your kids' faces. If you keep your children private, the paparazzi will respect that. And that's, so Julia Roberts understood that. But I'm saying Julia Roberts is far more famous than Meghan Markle. Julia Roberts also has money. Julia Roberts, if she needs to secure their well-being, will pay for a guard. That's what you should do, you absolute fools. Why does the British public need to pay for it? Now, they come back and they say, well, we can't have guns, can't have the same levels of protection in security.

36:52Again, this is also absurd because the notion that what's the danger awaiting anybody involved with the Sussexes is not that the notion that there's like a sniper on a roof waiting to take them out is made up. That is not a thing. And what you generally need, if you have security issues like they allegedly do, is a very large man or potentially a small one who is trained in how to kill a man in two moves, who can bodyguard you, literally bodyguard you if somebody tries to attack you or grab your child, et cetera. And by the way, there are a lot of other weapons that they can have. So, and this is all a made up fiction to try to make them feel more important than they are.

37:38That's what's happening there. Dan Wooten, our pal who we love, who's anchors his own show, Dan Wooten Outspoken, after he got the middle finger from GB News over an absolute nothing, got completely screwed by them. It was very sad. In any event, he is back on his feet and crushing it with his own show, Outspoken. But he is a legit reporter in the UK and he broke Mexit. I mean, he's broken a lot of the stories over there around these two and around the royals. And here's what he said just moments ago on these two. The 10 million pound annual fraud Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are conducting on the British government and hardworking British taxpayers as they now disgustingly put their own children's safety and happiness at risk.

38:25First by doxing them in a social media post, revealing that they're at the house of the billionaire Ian Weiss in the Cotswolds, and then withdrawing them from school after just two days. How is this not abusive behavior to us, to the kids? Right. Well, that's the other piece of it is the kids. Imagine uprooting your children from their Montecito schools. And their friends, the only friends that they've ever known are American now. That's where they've grown up. They're five and seven years. Archie was in the UK for a little bit of that, but he was just a baby. And now you're ripping them out of their home environment, their school environment, and what's become their home state.

39:10Ask Dr. Laura Schlesinger, who's been doing family and related counseling for her entire life, many decades, what that does to young kids. She's very against uprooting children and moving them unless you have to, unless you really have to. She and I have talked about the fact that we moved our kids from New York. And she said, I mean, what was happening to them in these New York City schools was abusive. You had to. That's how Doug and I felt. We had to. We weren't gonna let them sit and indoctrinate our children into transgenderism. By the way, there's a story right now in the news, Fox News broke it, Lauren Green, on a Catholic family that had its kids in a Massachusetts school.

39:56and without telling the parents, they transed that family's Catholic daughter into a so-called boy and then reported the parents to Division of Child and Family Services for alleged, quote, abuse for not affirming the gender switch. There's still a question about whether the parents even knew or whether they had just found out and said, what is this? Either way, the school thought it was abusive. The school had been transiting the child, alleges the family, and that they've lost custody of their daughter. And now the state wants to shoot her up full of massive doses of testosterone, which will change her voice down to hair.

40:40And, you know, not even a good man's voice. Like it never gets to like a good deep resonance where you're like, oh, it's a man's voice, but it's pleasant. It's like that Elliott Page voice that sounds like this. And it's just whiny and like nasal. It doesn't sound manly. It's so bad. Can you imagine somebody doing this to your sweet, beautiful Catholic daughter without your permission? That's what they're trying to do right now. Not to mention if she goes through with the procedures that they typically give. Puberty blockers into cross-sex hormones, which will sterilize her. Not to mention give her sexual atrophy so she will never ever achieve sexual climax in her life.

41:20This is all without the parents. Okay. And then ultimately double mastectomy. Of course, we know from Chloe Cole, among many other detransitioners, the pain and the ongoing regret that can be associated with that. And then the ultimate, the ultimate, they can actually try to construct a phallus by gouging out your forearm down to the bone. It's sick, sick shame on this school district. But my point is simply, you don't uproot children and send them to another school without really thinking it through. And the only reason you should do it is truly if there's an abusive situation like the family of Massachusetts was looking at, like the ones we were looking at in New York, or there's some absolutely compelling reason that really can't be escaped.

42:08And these two didn't have that. I mean, honestly, as I said, I think it was their quest for fame and relevance. Of course, there was the report from Tina Brown that she, in fact, was seeking a role, Megan was, in The Gentleman by Guy Ritchie, which has not yet officially been renewed for season three, but they're in talks. Apparently, there was another subsequent report that it was never an offer, that he had met her. They had like one conversation at a party and that she turned that into, oh, I'm in talks for a role in The Gentleman. Whatever is true, the blowback against Guy Ritchie and The Gentleman for even considering this was so enormous, it was off before it began.

42:50That's what happens when you call millions of people racist, when we know your terrible antics obviously helped kill the queen, not to mention her husband. And when you show the world that you're a narcissistic small person. That's like, we don't like you. And it's spread from the New York Times. I read that article a couple of weeks ago to the people in Great Britain, their approval ratings are below 20%. I think she was at 17%. 17 % of the British populace likes her. And I mean, like, who are they? There's like some woke people who think somehow this is like a A race thing with her. That's it.

43:34By the way, did you see the UK's? UK has an SNL now. And they took a shot at these two, just proving my point of nobody likes them. I mean, SNL there or here is not a right-wing property. And over there, they did the beginning of their SNL on Saturday night, taking on the fact that these two losers had moved home. Watch this.

44:00You, Camilla, nothing like a quiet Saturday in Balmoral. Clean Scottish air, dirty Scottish people. Bliss. I do so love our weekends away. No responsibilities, just like every other day. What in the devil is that racket? Daddy.

44:32I'm home. Harry, what are you two doing here? This castle is for royals only. Oh, Charles, don't be such a grump. Hello, sweet Harry. And beautiful Meghan, as brown as ever. Gee, thanks. Hey, step queen. I brought you a gift. Oh, Meghan, you shouldn't have. It's ice. I made it myself. I can give you the recipe. I'm kind of was in the kitchen. It's true. She hires the best cooks

45:08I love you. I love you more. No, I love you more. I love you more

45:16What do you two want we're moving back to the UK and we need your help Don't tell me you spent all your Netflix money already Daddy, it was$60 million. How long was it meant to last? What a waste you've become. You're lucky your father isn't around to see this. What? What? What? What?

45:40Some very clever jokes in there. There have been about King Charles not being the father. Many people thought it was that polo player that Diana had the affair with. the remark as brown as ever is because the actress playing Meghan Markle is an actual black person, unlike Meghan Markle. The knock on Meghan's cooking skills. I made this for you. It's ice. That's a good one. Clearly a reference to her attempt to be Martha Stewart, which failed. and Harry is portrayed as a balding, disheveled, little baby brat whiner, which is what he's proven to be. So yeah, the UK is not welcoming them with open arms.

46:29But back to their pulling their children out of two days, okay, after two days. So it's bad enough they've moved them all the way to another country, not to another state full of more Americans like they're used to, or a school system that seems familiar, but to the UK where everything is different for these two. And they, you know how it is. Every kid has a little nerves going into school for the first day. They go in, they get past the nerves. They have not one day, but two, and they get yanked out of the school by these same ridiculous, absurd, safetyism-obsessed parents who now must be communicating to the children that this school isn't safe for them Why?

47:10Because the traffic on route to the school is too thick. And so their security team says it's not safe because they were not able to fully assess this drive when school was not in session. And the convoy that they take the children to school in got separated. There's so many things wrong with this. They don't need a convoy. First of all, that's ridiculous. that's like for presidential candidates and presidents and dignitaries. But okay, I can see you wanna use it here or there when you're in like an emergency situation or like it's a high profile situation, you know, like whatever. We had convoys when we landed in certain cities because that's just how they treat it when someone's coming who's of note and it's been pre-announced.

48:01Obviously, in our case on that tour, there were some other considerations given what just happened with Charlie. But a day-to-day convoy for these private citizens, children? Okay, that's a bit much. But even so, if you're in a convoy and you have a good security team, they will not get separated. I've seen that done many times. The aggressive drivers will make sure that there will be no separation no matter what. They are tailgate to tailgate. And it works. But okay. Also, you didn't look into the traffic patterns? Like you were worried about driving a convoy and it getting broken up and you didn't bother to factor in what the traffic might look like during the school year.

48:43I mean, did you not ask a single mother in the Cotswolds? Because literally every mother on earth knows what the traffic is like between 7 and 8 a.m. between her house and the school. We all know. Doesn't matter if you're rich, poor, famous, private, irrelevant. We all know. We do that drive because we love our children. Even if you put your kid on the bus, you have to do that drive. some days of the year, things go wrong, whatever. We've all done it a million times and we know what the traffic is. What is the problem? How is it that they want everybody to know it wasn't the school's fault? Oh, we know.

49:13We know it was you two losers, but I'm not convinced there wasn't something about the school. Maybe they didn't feel special enough there. Was that the problem? They didn't quite get the royal carpet rolled out for them even there, uh, that they needed to pull the children. They're just, they're, they're so full of drama. And again, if, if it is as they say it is, then it's just this obsession with safetyism that is made up, right? It's like, it's made up. So by the way, the other thing is Harry and Meghan continue. They say, this is the protection they have right now. They've been given the phone number of a police liaison officer rather than continuous police protection, but that's fine.

49:52I mean, do you have a police liaison officer who you can just call on a moment's notice? No, they gave them something and they They continue to pay for their own private security, but personnel cannot provide the same armed protection, as I pointed out, or intelligence capabilities available to British authorities. Then they also say, OK, then they are also making sure that we know about this private assessment. The Duke's private security company prepared, as I pointed out. And here's my response to that. They knew about all that. They knew. They knew. Even if you want to say they believe the nonsense report from his private security, they knew all of that when they moved back to the UK because the threat, the alleged threat outlined by this company says his security is in more jeopardy in the UK than it is in America.

50:45Five of the six alleged terrorist plots involving Harry originated in Britain. So why did we move to Britain? you knew exactly what the security situation was. You've already been denied the public protection that you asked, and yet you came back. So in the law, we have a phrase for that assumption of the risk. Had it with these grifters and so have the rest of the world. Thank God. Let's talk about something that isn't always the most comfortable subject, but it is incredibly important. Making sure the people you love have financial security if something happens to you. Now hear me out. Life insurance.

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53:26A couple of serious matters to get to this hour. There is news about Thomas Crooks, the man who shot and killed Corey Comparatore and also attempted to shoot and kill Donald Trump, who was then running for president of the United States and was about to accept the Republican nomination in Butler, Pennsylvania in July of 2024. The FBI, for some reason, is just now releasing this information, and it is rather stunning. I've got to tell you, here's what we know about why it's coming out now. Okay, some of this is from New York Post exclusive. But what happened was documents were provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley.

54:17He's been conducting an ongoing inquiry into the Butler assassination attempt. And the New York Post reports that it has obtained exclusive access to these documents. And they have a stunning report today that you should read for yourself, but I'll give you the highlights. They interviewed, the FBI did, Thomas Crooks's father, Matthew. And this is mostly based on their discussions with Matthew, who I've got to tell you, like, he paints a story of this man's childhood, his son, which is just so sad and pathetic and foreboding that it really does make you wonder. I'm not blaming the father for what the son did, but it really does make you wonder why, why didn't they intervene earlier in this young man's life?

55:10It's not like he had future presidential assassin written all over him, but I would say he's got all the stuff that you'd see in a school shooter. He had all the stuff, I mean, other than being a pothead and addicted to SSRIs. But for all I know, he was on SSRIs. I actually don't know the answer to that. Okay, so here's the story. The father Matthew tells the FBI, when Thomas was born, he did not scream and he was always quiet from that point on. That's just eerie. The child didn't cry when he was born at all. And he was always quiet, always. Let's see. He reveals he, quote, never really had a father-son bond with his son Thomas.

56:02and that his stoic son rarely expressed strong emotions, hardly ever laughed, and was very difficult to read. You never really had a father-son bond. Okay, if that's the case, it's your fault. It's the father's fault. It's not the child's fault. It's the parent's obligation to make sure that bond is formed. And if it's not forming naturally with the hours you spend together, most of which are full of love and affection and kindness, if you're doing things right, then you're going to need to change something. You're going to need to make different choices to make sure the child does feel loved and bonded.

56:43And if he still cannot, then you're going to have to have the child tested to see if there is something wrong with him. You know, from being someplace on the autism scale where they struggle, some versions of those who are on the scale spectrum struggle with emotions and expressing them to, you know, something else entirely, which is a full sociopath. They have no emotions. And that's why they are so good at committing crimes. They feel no empathy whatsoever for their victims. But you got to figure out what you have in your house, sir. And you can't just chalk it up to the way we had no bond. What?

57:19Again, I don't know the full story here. I'm just gleaning what I'm gleaning from the New York Post report, but I'm disturbed by his characterization. That's in quotes, never really had a father-son bond. That's his characterization. Thomas occasionally acted out in elementary school because he was bored, says his father, recalling one instance in which he damaged a desk and other school property in a bid for attention. By the time he got to middle school, Matthew said both, again, Matthew's the dad, both he and his wife Mary, quote, thought Thomas had ADHD and were concerned he had fallen in with a bad group of kids for a brief period.

57:57I mean, my first thought when I read that was, thank God he's fallen into some group of anything. I think I'd rather my kid fall in with like a naughty group testing limits than have no one, just no one, not a friend. And the post reporting here, Matthews, frustration with his son's dispassionate nature once boiled over at home after Thomas, that's the shooter, dumped an entire container of fish food into his sister's tank after an argument. All right, so that is actually quite concerning. Now I'm thinking sociopath because, look, I realize that's kind of, you could make the argument a childhood prank dumping the fish food in, but you're intentionally killing somebody's pet.

58:46And I'm just guessing if you've got that instance of intentionally killing your sister's pet, you probably have other instances of torturing animals or killing pets, et cetera. I'm gonna mark money right now. That wasn't his only instance of harming animals or pets. So again, disturbing. He said he pushed Thomas to the point that Thomas started crying one time, just trying to elicit some kind of an emotional reaction from the boy. Nowhere in here that I read is there news of him taking him to a child therapist, psychologist, school guidance counselor, anything, to get some help in figuring out what is wrong with Thomas Crooks.

59:36What's going on with this kid? Believe me, I know it's all like, be careful. And I agree, be careful what psychiatrist you take your kid to or therapist. because we all know, thanks to Abigail Schreier and many others, that most of them want to either trans your kid or make him ruminate about all the bad things that have happened to him and also get them hooked on SSRIs. All this is bad, so you're going to have to do some research. But there should be some intervention when you're at the point where, from birth, he's shown no emotion. Now he's killing the family pets, and he can't even cry unless you really abuse him emotionally as the dad.

1:00:16Between his freshman and sophomore year of high school, Matthew, the dad noticed a shift in his son's behavior. He had grown a little more quiet and reserved. Amazing. Sounded like he was that way from day one and started having issues with speaking to his teachers. He said he frequently caught Thomas talking to himself. However, a quirk that became more noticeable over the years. He lamented the fact, the dad did, that his work schedules hampered his ability to pick up and drop Thomas from extracurricular activities, expressing sadness that if he had done so, it may have been a positive social outlet for his lone wolf son.

1:00:56Sir, yes, obviously. I mean, all parents have an obligation to do this, if they can, anything. Like, okay, we have to work, and I get it. A lot of parents have to work who have kids in school and they can't leave in the middle of the day. I get that. That's true for a lot of people, especially working class people. But this guy knew he had a problematic son. And you have an obligation to society to figure out what's going on there and to make time around your work schedule if you have to. Or get somebody to sub for you one day so that you can pick him up and drop him off at his extracurricular activities.

1:01:34and then stand there and watch him and see how he's doing. It's just, this is a fail up and down the schedule. Crooks, he said, then very much feared, Thomas did, that he wouldn't get into college. He reports that he threw himself into college prep courses because he feared he may not get in, putting a lot of pressure on himself. Despite his lack of social graces and street smarts, as Matthew described, Thomas could have been a promising student. He scored a 1 ,400 on his first attempt at the SAT without studying, later improved to a near-perfect 1 ,500. Matthews said Thomas expressed vague interest in certain professions over the years, but with little, if any, real commitment.

1:02:16That's no shock, you know, without somebody in high school. At one point, he wanted to join the military to work in nuclear submarines, but it was just an idea. He never seemed to have a love interest. He never showed interest at all in girls. He repeatedly denied being gay. He began developing an obsession with guns. He had little interest in the outdoorsman life, but the dad, Matthew, said he briefly took interest in hunting, but then said he couldn't envision his son actually killing an animal. He also hated fishing. I mean, tell that to the fish, but okay, whatever. He also asked if he could have his grandfather's guns.

1:02:56His conversations with his son, Thomas, during this period, I think this is high school and immediately thereafter, were usually brief and gun-related, such as the then teen wondering if he would have to do a background check to buy his dad's Glock, a question he told investigators he the dad considered odd. Thomas started going to the gun club around the time of the pandemic and was a terrible shot. He could not hit the paper target, said his dad, estimating it took four to five years of practice before he could do that. Eventually, with practice, he became a better marksman, coming home with range targets showing off to his dad how well he did with a target placed over 100 yards away.

1:03:32After he questioned his son about why he was going out so far, Thomas explained he wanted to see how far he could shoot with rudimentary sights. I think it was 100 yards from which he took the shot in Butler. He found he was able to shoot even further distances after he bought a prism sight. Indeed, he had a sight on sight with him at Butler, eventually becoming very knowledgeable about how to measure and zero in on a target and knew exactly how many clicks it would take to change the specific angle on the sight. The Panther Arms A15 semi-automatic rifle used by Thomas Crooks to carry out the assassination attempt was given to him by his father the morning of the shooting.

1:04:14I mean, look, note to parents out there, if you've got the loner kid who never emotes, who doesn't seem to feel empathy for people, who has at least one instance of killing a family pet, who, as we're going to get to a little later, could be heard dancing by himself behind his bedroom door. It's just sad. It's sad. This is an isolated, lonely kid who can't make friends. because he doesn't know how, and he's extremely odd and ill-fitting. Do not give that kid a fucking gun. Don't give him a gun. All right? This isn't about the Second Amendment. This is about responsible Second Amendment ownership.

1:05:01And the responsible gun owners I know would know this. They'd be the first to say this to you. Not everybody is going to be responsible with a gun. And a kid like that, right in the time when they have their psychotic breaks, you know, between 18 and say 25, that's the hobby you encourage him to pick up and you foster it. And you gave him the gun on the day the president is in town, former president and running to be again. Come on. Again, I'm not blaming this dad for the assassination attempt and the killing of Corey, but I'm saying let's all use our heads so we can prevent the next one. We need to talk sense amongst ourselves as adults.

1:05:42This is fucked up. These are bad decisions. So he did. He gave him that rifle the morning out. He said he took the rifle out of his locked gun safe, for which he changed the combination frequently after noticing his son would look over his shoulder to see the code he was entering, another red flag, and gave it to Thomas thinking he was heading to a shooting range on July 13th, 2024. As Thomas's interest in guns grew, he started buying large numbers of Amazon packages, including parts, tools and items to increase the capacity of his rifle. Hello? He took to using the pseudonym Bob Dole for his delivery address.

1:06:21A bit of misguided paranoia he picked up after his father's citizen's bank checking account had been hacked and several fraudulent Bet MGM charges were made on his account. He tried to explain to his son that all the purchases would still show up on their bank account and be registered to their bank account, but the son still wanted to use it. The son coached the father on how to use identity-obscuring software like CyberGhost VPN and the BraveNet browser, which would make them less likely to be compromised by outside actors. The father, Matthew, further recalled Thomas using multiple, different, privacy-focused, encrypted email providers, including GMX and MailFence.

1:07:10So now you've got your kid using encrypted mails and internet service providers, using a pseudonym to receive gifts, not gifts, Amazon packages, including parts, tools, and items. There's another whole bit in here about how he once made a gun. He obtained a 3D printer, once brought home a large container of unknown substances. He claimed he needed to clean it. Matthew, the dad, once said he tried to fashion his own handgun, which nearly ended in disaster. He used carbon fiber plastic, a dryer, and a toaster oven. He did once create a Glock 19, said the dad. He also built a gaming PC after dismissing his dad's suggestion that a laptop would serve him better, and a security camera using a Raspberry Pi, a simple low-cost microcomputer.

1:07:58And on and on it goes. I mean, now his politics, this has already been reported. He was very much a Republican. He didn't like the welfare state. He was against woke ideology. The dad says he never really espoused the Republican ideology, but that was the kind of thing he was saying. And then he seemed to switch to Democrat. He made Democrat donations, and there's been previous reporting by the New York Post, Tucker Carlson and others who got a hold of his social media and showed these two distinct phases, 2019 to 20, aggressively pro-Trump, militant, sometimes racist, openly violent, 2020 onward, sudden shift toward anti-Trump, pro-lockdown, left-leaning rhetoric, escalating into discussions about terrorism-style attacks and political assassinations.

1:08:41Miranda Devine also reported of the New York Post, he appears to have been interested in furries and exploring gender identity, described himself with the pronouns they, them in the platform DeviantArt, which is one of the biggest online hubs for furry art in the furry community. It kind of goes back to what we're seeing with Tyler Robinson. You know, like the parents didn't say he was incredibly political. You know, he had some comments. He definitely made some comments about Charlie, but it's not like this guy was like showing up at political rallies and, you know, touting all the signage, et cetera.

1:09:14but he was getting dragged into the furry community. And there are some, you know, mysteries around Tyler Robinson too. And that's why people think was he and was Thomas Crooks like recruited by some third party who wanted to kill these targets, Charlie and President Trump? You know, did someone swoop into their lives and radicalize them politically and then somehow used them to commit the crimes, which is, again, back to the fact that some anonymous donor paid for Thomas Crooks' body to be immediately cremated, is suspicious. I completely understand why people who think Crooks was turned by some foreign country, someone who may have intervened on his social media, and the facts haven't all been disclosed, why they may think that all of these are clues supportive of that theory.

1:10:19Totally get it. On the other side of the ledger, you always got to do the other side of the ledger. This is what my therapist, who I love, is more like my life coach tells me. If you want to obsess over something that is bad, that's going to happen, you know, this terrible thing's going to happen to me. You can do that, but you have to fill out the other side of the ledger. You're required. So, you know, let's say you're obsessing that you're going to get run over by a New York City bus. You can obsess over it. Okay, it could happen. What is all the evidence that you're probably not going to get run over by a New York City bus?

1:10:51Well, you've been living in New York for this number of years. You've been on the sidewalk or the corner thousands of times. You've never come close to getting run over by a bus. It's not a story that you hear about that often. We just have to do that exercise. So what is the other side of the ledger for Thomas Crooks? Well, he was odd, extremely odd and emotionless from birth. He did kill the family goldfish. I know I'm probably making too big a deal out of that, but I'm just saying it's a tell when we know how this kid wound up. A murderous adult who tried to kill the president of the United States.

1:11:23Again, former, but about to be again. And did shoot three others, killing one of them. So, yeah, I think it's a good clue. So, and on that side of the ledger is furry community, incel, you know, both of them were into furry community and had possibly been an incel in Tyler Robinson's case prior to meeting Lance Twiggs. And in Thomas Crooks' case, seems to have been one, involuntarily celibate. He was obsessed with movies like Saving, well, not obsessed, he enjoyed watching movies like Saving Private Ryan, Full Metal Jacket, the John Wick series, and he was an avid gamer, Crooks was in high school, playing Grand Prix, strategic style military confrontation, and first person shooter games.

1:12:14He would later lose interest in a hobby after high school, expressing regret about putting so much time into building a gaming PC. Thomas never showed any signs indicating something was wrong, his father told investigators. And there is the cherry on the sundae. He did, sir. He did. He showed a lot of signs. A lot that something was wrong. I mean, this is like, it's so sad because, you know, Corey's widow right now would beg to differ that there were no signs that there was anything wrong with Thomas Crooks. And Corey's widow needed Matthew Crooks to be paying closer attention to his boy and to intervene sooner in that young man's wellness.

1:13:09It's the same as the shooter at Newtown, who was among the oddest young men we've ever heard about. Odd-looking, had been bullied, spent all of his time in the mother's basement, all of it. And what did she do? She happily encouraged his gun habit, and he took his guns and shot a bunch of kindergartners and first graders. I just, the parents do have a role and an obligation to society to keep us safe. You keep the guns away from the very odd, emotionless, potential sociopaths who are your sons, especially between the ages of 18 and 25. Let's go younger. Let's go 14 to 25. That's when the psychotic breaks happen.

1:13:54That's the age of virtually all school shooters. I realize that we're not talking about a school shooter in either this case or the Charlie case, but you get my point. He never showed any signs indicating something was wrong. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Now, we've talked before in the past about what do you do when you have that son? Because if your son or daughter can happen to a daughter, absolutely can have spoken with those mothers. Is a sociopath, most therapists can't treat that. You can't be therapized out of sociopathy. It's very dark. So these mothers, many of whom I've interviewed, some of which I've played for you in the past as we discuss this subject, typically after a mass shooting, are at their wits end trying to find a facility to which they can voluntarily commit their child.

1:14:47Their other children are sleeping with knives under their pillows, doors locked with dressers up against them so that their potential sociopath sibling can't hurt them in the middle of the night. This is how these families have to live. And the mothers are hoping slash dreading that their child will commit a crime so that they can go into the penal system. and at least be behind bars. They don't really want that because they love their children, even though they know that they're off, to put it mildly. But they don't feel safe. The parents and the families are the first ones to know this person is not a safe person to be around.

1:15:28So I'm not buying that dad's statement at the end. Never showed signs indicating something was wrong. A, he did. I know that just from the things you said in quotes. And B, I just don't believe that you would be saying that. I think you'd know, given how well publicized this case has been. We almost lost Donald Trump. That there would be a massive backlash against you. I'm sure there's already been. In any event, back to the cremation, and then we'll move on from this. The Post reporting that an anonymous donor then paid for the cremation of Thomas Crooks remains. the father it was an anonymous donor who paid for the cremation reads a note at the end of a summary of an interview with the father Matthew the information appears to have been gleaned from a lawyer for the family according to the document the addendum noted that Matthew the father was retired his wife was on leave from work suggesting the family could not come up with the money for his funeral arrangements.

1:16:31Matthew explains in other parts of the federal records viewed by the Post that he was unemployed at the time of the shooting. So it was either unemployed or retired. And then you've got Representative Clay Higgins, Republican from Louisiana, who was infuriated and disturbed that the body was turned over, as I mentioned before, to the family less than two weeks after the assassination attempt. Quote, my effort to examine Crooks's body on Monday, August 5th, remember the shooting was July 13th, caused quite a stir and revealed a disturbing fact. The FBI released the body for cremation 10 days after July 13th.

1:17:06Higgins wrote a letter to the bipartisan congressional task force investigating the security failures around the shooting. And no sooner do I report this to you than President Trump has now just issued a statement on this reporting on Trump, on Truth Social. Quote, everybody knows the crooked Joe Biden FBI didn't do what they should have with respect to the lunatic who shot me in Butler, Pennsylvania. By the time I got into office on January 20th, most of the information was missing, altered, corrupted, or gone. New info was just found. Why wasn't it seen long ago? This was all a Democrat plot to get me out of the election that failed.

1:17:47Dirty cop Christopher Wray should pay a price for the way he handled this assassination attempt and certainly for the things he said. God bless America. Make America great again. Well, that's, I mean, you know, Trump is very loose with his accusations and his language, but he's suggesting the assassination, I think, was a Democrat plot. We don't have the evidence for that. But we do have a mysterious story around this shooting that requires more answers. And we haven't been getting them. We really haven't been getting them. It's been dribs and drabs ever since, which is why people still have such questions and then they'll get dismissed as conspiracy theorists.

1:18:29Well, stop it. Stop it. You can have legitimate questions about what really happened here and want more answers. both in Charlie's murder, like about Trantifa, for example, and President Trump's assassination attempt without going conspiracy theorist. You know, I just, we have to make room for people to be questioners of official narratives, even if we ourselves become satisfied with those narratives. I just, questioners of the official narratives are part of the national conversation and the equation. And if we didn't make room for them, we'd still be pushing lies about COVID coming from a wet market in China.

1:19:16All right. So like we have to be able to ask questions. I want to keep going. Hayden Penetier. There is now, we reported this on AM Update today, a working theory reports TMZ of how she died. And that working theory is that she took and oxycodone laced with fentanyl.

1:19:41What a waste. It's just such a waste. Don't take oxycodone from some sketchy drug dealer off the street. FYI, educate your children. One pill can kill, as our friend Eric Bolling says in his charitable organization after his son, Eric Chase, died the same way. In Eric's defense, this happened years ago at a time, I think it was 2018, when we weren't that educated on this. This problem was just beginning and he didn't know. And I'm sure his son didn't know. But now we know. Hayden Pennington knew better. Someone's got to go to jail for this. I mean, her dealer, whoever gave her that pill, has to fucking go to jail.

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1:26:02I'm going to get to the Lindsay Clancy verdict in one, or the fallout for the juror in one second. But first, I got to tell you, from the world of politics, Jake Tapper decided to go interview Gavin Newsom, which is fine. For some reason, they did it while fly fishing. I'm in the field. I'm a normal man. Here's how that went. A lot of Democrats. 31 flavors. You're not even the only Californian. No, right. You've got Ro Khanna, Kamala. Yeah, I don't know if she runs, but we'll see. I know she's called around. Yeah, but I wouldn't run if she ran. If she runs, you will not? Of course not. Why would I?

1:26:38I wouldn't do that to her. I wouldn't do it to me. Why would I? I wouldn't do that to you. I wouldn't waste everyone's time. Who needs that? What do you mean? That doesn't even make sense to me. I just, I wouldn't, no, I wouldn't. First of all, electorally, it's a gift from God for everybody else. They enjoy the hell out of it. Mutual assured destruction. It services no greater good. I mean, you do whatever you want. I don't care. But like, counter argument would be like, you know, she had a shot. Yeah. And you've never run and she's run twice. Yeah. I mean, that would be the approach to the campaign, certainly.

1:27:13That would be the case you'd make. Pretty good one, actually. You know, that's that's objectively true. I just but I know what that means. I know her base of supporters. I know her friends. The Zen diagram on that is just pure crossover. It's not I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. Okay. So we made a little news. He's not running if Kamala Harris runs because no Democrat voter from California is going to go for the white man over the black woman. That's really what the truth is, though he won't say it. Yeah. And then you heard him immediately be like, yeah, you make a good point. Jake Tapper's like, well, she's run twice.

1:27:52She didn't win. And you've never run. Yeah, that's a good point, actually. He clearly doesn't want her to run. He wants to run. And maybe he's trying to amp up the pressure on her via her donors just to let people know nice and early, it's me or her. It's me or her, but you're not going to get both. In a season where the Democrats have realized they think running a woman is not a smart move. They tried it with Hillary. They tried it with Kamala. They lost both times. I would submit to them that the problem is not a woman, but those women. But whatever. you do you Democrat party. I thought it was interesting.

1:28:33Okay. Back to Lindsey Clancy, because the holdout, I mean, the reason we call him the holdout jurors, because we don't want to name him. And there's really not a better way of quickly identifying him. The holdout juror has spoken again with the New York post, a couple of exclusives for the post. Good for them. And here's what he has revealed about his brother. You'll be shocked, shocked to learn that his brother and family are in hiding. His wife, they just got married.

1:29:07She came by yesterday, he said, and asked me to put new wheels on her car. She said the media has been crazy that they're going to lie low for a while because the harassment of this guy has been so bad. One man in the juror's life, he owns a local garage, says this juror is a really nice guy. He goes to church. He said he paid for a lady the other day who couldn't pay for her gas. She said, I can't pay. And he went right over and paid her bail. This is the monster that these lunatic hens on the jury want us to believe is out there. The brother says, my family can't leave the house. They are leaving notes at my mother's house.

1:29:48They won't leave us alone. We don't know anything. People have been calling me like crazy. It's crazy. None of the family even had any idea that their brother, this guy, was serving as a juror on the Lindsey Clancy trial because he didn't tell any of them. We didn't know. That's why I was shocked, said the brother. He didn't tell us anything. When asked whether he thinks religion had anything to do with his brother's holding out, which is one of the theories being put out there by his detractors, he said, I do not think so. I don't think religion had anything to do with it. He looked at the case and made the call.

1:30:21And now he's getting relentlessly hounded by true crime gawkers and reporters since he refused to agree with the 11 others. His big sin, refusing to agree. And yesterday when we talked about this juror, I told you that Boston's, the NBC Boston affiliate, NBC10, had done this deep dive on this juror and how he at one point had a request for a restraining order against him and assault charges which were dropped. and that at the time he served as a juror, that incident had resulted in a restraining order filed by his 13-year-old nephew, who is now 19, I believe doing the math because the first incident was six years ago, because they had an altercation in which he allegedly hit the now 19-year-old.

1:31:15He was angry about the confrontation years earlier, which he blamed on the young man for ruining his marriage. Anyway, they outed all that at NBC Boston, and they did not, however, name him, name the juror. Thank you. But they gave enough breadcrumbs that the entire Internet had it within an hour. Well, now swoops in the Boston Globe that uses the name of the holdout juror. And they want you to know the Globe has confirmed his identity through photos published online, court records, and an interview with one of his fellow jurors. Yeah, that's kind of a problem. That's what you shouldn't have done.

1:31:55Repeated efforts by the Globe to reach him were unsuccessful. Right, what does that tell you? He doesn't want to be famous. He doesn't want to talk about his damn jury duty, which he was basically conscripted into, which is how it happens for all of us. This is so, it's so nuts. One of the jurors, Paula Devlin, told the Globe that she did not believe this guy should have been allowed to sit on the Clancy jury given the active restraining order. However, there is no prohibition against that. Kevin Reddington declined to comment on Monday about this guy's so-called criminal background. The criminal charges against him were dropped.

1:32:39He had a restraining order against him reportedly at the time he served. That's very interesting that Kevin Reddington is saying nothing. Why? What's he doing? Is he trying to strike a deal behind the scenes? Tim Cruz, the DA, has also said nothing. So I can only imagine that they are furiously going through juror questionnaires trying to find this guy's. You know, the thing about the jury questionnaire, and this article does actually point this out in part, they speak to a retired superior court judge named Jack Lew, who said, look, standard jury questionnaires are extremely short and can be confusing to non-lawyers, making it understandable for prospective jurors to inadvertently omit details.

1:33:22He stressed that a passed civil order or dismissed criminal charge does not strip a citizen of their right to be a juror, their right, I think a lot of us would love to lose our right, our right to be a juror. Anyway, that's true. And in that case that I was telling you about, Rochelle Neese in the Scott Peterson case, she argued exactly that. She said, the reason I didn't disclose when I was asked about current court proceedings that I've been involved in, et cetera, that I had a restraining order against my boyfriend's ex-girlfriend was because I didn't think it qualified. That didn't seem to fall within what they were asking.

1:33:59And the court actually issued a ruling in that case saying, I believe her. I don't think this was malfeasance. I think she was genuinely confused. And is it so hard to believe that this guy might have been confused? I have no idea. But I'll bet you whether the DA and Kevin Reddington, I'll bet you that they are pouring through forums right now to see how he answered those questions and what they can do with it. Okay, a couple of other things I want to hit. The U.S. Open finals were this past weekend. Really enjoyed them. They weren't the most exciting ever, not going to lie, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching them.

1:34:32Except, like most of the world, I could not stand Zverev's bouncing of the tennis ball incessantly before his serves. Talk about delay of game. There's a shot clock on the first serve, but there's not one on the second. So, you know, you're out of control on that second. You can keep it. And the other opponent is supposed to be at the baseline ready to receive the serve like right away. and Ben Shelton, who was a, that's the American, Zverev is German. And we really wanted Ben Shelton to win, but he didn't. Anyway, but he was like, he was not standing at the baseline because he's waiting, basically twiddling his thumbs, waiting for Zverev to go through his obviously OCD routine before he served.

1:35:17And he got admonished by the, by the umpire there saying like, get at the baseline. He's like, why, why, why should I have to sit in a crouched position, muscles tightened, you know, ready to receive when we all know this is going to take another 20 seconds. I'll get there when I get there. It's up to me, by the way, if I want to risk losing the point. That was absurd by the ump, and Zverev has got to work on his problem. I objected to it as a person who has mild OCD to just like the constant like, you know, it's like, it was, I too was counting the ball bounces. It was kind of getting in my head.

1:35:52The numbers were annoying and they weren't all the same, which didn't make sense to me. If he's got OCD, doesn't they have to hit the same number of bounces each and every time. Sometimes they were 12, sometimes they were 18. It just completely throws off the pace of the open. And it's one of the reasons why the play was boring, because you had these long breaks in between every point. No one liked it. Shelton didn't like it. Jimmy McEnroe complained. So did Shelton. There was another announcer, I think, who complained. So it's just Andy Roddick. He's announcing for them now, I think, for the Tennis Channel.

1:36:24Anyway, he's been doing a good job. So that was annoying. I like Zverev. He's not like a sexy player. It's a good looking man, but he's not a sexy player. He's not like exciting to watch in the way Nadal was or Djokovic is or Federer or even Medvedev. I like Medvedev. He's got like his temper, which is fun to watch. This guy's kind of boring. Seems sweet to me. Took a bunch of shit because he called out Ben Shelton's girlfriend, who's Tiffany Rodman, the daughter of Dennis Rodman, who notwithstanding that it seems to have turned out very well, Trinity. And he said something like, oh, Trinity, you're here rooting for him.

1:37:00Good for you. You're his good luck charm. You know, not today, but you know, good for you. And people are like, oh, he's dragging Ben Shelton by like talking to his girl or trying to steal it. Like, what do you, I thought that was actually just sort of kind of sweet and spur of the moment, but I saw the dragging online, but I wanted to point out this. Ben Shelton, who's been the picture of class, he's biracial. His mom is white. His dad is black. It's interesting. He has a sister who's whiter than I am, and he looks mixed race. I'm going someplace with this. He, when he won the semis last week, he gets questioned by this former tennis player, now commentator, Chris Eubanks, who is black, which is also relevant to what's about to happen here, who has to, has to inject race into the victory.

1:37:49And Ben Shelton, to his credit, didn't go there. Watch. 2003, since the last time an American man won this title, but it's been since 1972 that a black man has played in the final of the U.S. Open, and it was Arthur Ashe. On Sunday, you will step foot on Arthur Ashe Stadium looking to take your very first Grand Slam title. When you hear that, what goes through your mind as you prepare for Sunday? Yeah, it's a lot of emotion. My dad and my mom have sacrificed a lot for me to be in this position today. My dad lost his mom earlier this year, and she's the reason that he was able to play tennis. This one is for her, and I'm going to need you guys on Sunday to bring the energy.

1:38:40Let's do this for the USA. And one more thing.

1:38:48and one more thing it's a uh it's a difficult day to be out here playing um my thoughts and prayers go out to all the families who are impacted by 9-11 picture of class good for him not everything has to be about race and i would submit to you that this eubanks character is working out his own issues on all of us, Ben Shelton and everyone in attendance there. And shame on him. Just stop. If Ben Shelton wants to play the race card and raise that, or if you in writing up the Ben Shelton win want to write about that. But that's the question you ask him after he wins the semifinals as this young 22 year old whippersnapper going into the finals of the U.S.

1:39:36Open. That's where you want to take him. piss off. And good for Ben Shelton for seeing it. He clocked it and he didn't do it. And can I tell you, this reminded me of Sage Steele, who has the same racial makeup in her family as Ben Shelton. Her dad is black. Her mom is white. And she got in trouble at ESPN when she was there. Thank God she no longer is because she didn't understand why Obama considers himself a black man, why why he would want to say that in a way that she thought would alienate him from his white parent, his mom. That's, Sage has said, and I'm not going to say it as articulately as Sage does, but she's made the point that like, I never want to really sort of say I'm black or I'm white, because I feel like it's going to divide me from the one parent who isn't that thing.

1:40:26So, you know, she's mixed race. I don't think she really wants to talk about her race at all. And I guarantee you if Sage does well, either playing athletics or covering athletics or just as a political commentator now, and somebody wants to compliment her on doing that, she certainly doesn't want you to bring up her damn race and saying, what does it feel like to be this race and to do that thing? My God, stop. That in and of itself feels racist in the way of you're focusing on somebody's race as opposed to their accomplishments. That's for Ben Shelton to do. If he wants to bring it up or his coach pulls you aside and says, why don't you ask this?

1:41:10That's one thing, but that's not what happened here. This is this guy working out his agenda. Shame on him. Go Ben. And I personally look forward to years more of Ben Shelton dominating. This wasn't his time. He's still very young. He played two years at the University of Florida not long ago. I mean, can you imagine? I wish I could have seen some of those matches, but he's going to be around, I think, for a very long time and winning a lot of trophies, just as his very classy opponent, Sasha Zverev said. Then there's Taylor Townsend. She won, I think, was it women's doubles? And she had this to say after the win, SOP 20.

1:41:49I also just take a lot of pride in this, being a black woman here. It's two black women here in finals. There are two black men in the semifinals. And this is a phenomenal time for tennis, for inspiration, for representation. Chanda, it means a lot for you to be standing here as well, because you paved the way for us as well. So thank you. This is a phenomenal time for tennis, and it's just getting started. Okay. It's better than having the announcer shove it in your face. Just FYI, you're nowhere near the first black woman to dominate tennis. Obviously, Serena and Venus Williams are the OGs who completely dominated.

1:42:31And to this day, good luck watching a tennis match without seeing four commercials featuring one or both of them, especially Serena. Okay, like Coco Gauff, same. She's a star. She's all over the ads. Like, it's really not that rare to see a black person in the finals of a major. but you do you. The real problem with Taylor Townsend is she's been wearing a patch on her arm or someplace. I don't know where the patch goes that promotes Benjamin Crump, race hustler Benjamin Crump, who sponsored her and is very proud of his association with her. And she's very proud of her association with him. And Benjamin Crump is still out there pushing race hoax lies like that Michael Brown was murdered by police, which isn't true even according to Barack Obama's DOJ run by Eric Holder.

1:43:28An investigation that was based, the conclusion that it wasn't murder, that Michael Brown was in the process of attacking that officer based on the eyewitness testimony of five black people. Black president, black AG, five black eyewitnesses say in that case it was the black man aggressing on the white officer. and there's DNA on the car to substantiate it as well. But we're still getting that kind of a lie pushed by Megan Rapinoe. Just Today is in the news for that. And by Ben Crump. So I would reconsider the patch, especially if you want to be taken seriously as any sort of a leader in tennis, which is known for its elegance, its reserve, its class, and really not for its politics.

1:44:15which generally stay off the court and out of the matches. None of us wants to hear it. We are there for an athletic event. Okay, we'll save the rest for tomorrow. Plenty more days together this week. I hope you have a great day. Thank you all for tuning in. And don't forget tonight to tune in to MK Confidential. It comes out on our podcast feed and on our YouTube feed. If you're not already subscribed, please go there and follow. but we are in the midst of our series on Casey Anthony. Tonight is night two. You've only missed one night. Catch up and we'll see you then. Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.

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