Don Lemon's Lies, Sad and Narcissistic Leftists, and the Beckham Drama, with James Woods, Britt Mayer, and Will Witt | Ep. 1234

20 Jan 2026 · 1 h 41 min · 47 chapters

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Don Lemon's Lies, Sad and Narcissistic Leftists, and the Beckham Drama, with James Woods, Britt Mayer, and Will Witt | Ep. 1234

Episode Description

In this episode, Megyn Kelly discusses various provocative topics with guests James Woods, Britt Mayer, and Will Witt. The conversation spans Don Lemon's controversial actions, cultural commentary on leftist attitudes, a family feud involving David Beckham, and Michelle Obama's recent statements on race.

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Key Topics and Discussions

  1. Don Lemon's Controversy
  2. Incident at Minnesota Church: Discussion on Lemon's involvement in a protest that disrupted a church service.
  3. Potential Legal Consequences: Possible charges under the FACE Act and Klan Act due to violations of constitutional rights.
  4. Lemon’s Denial: Lemon's claims of ignorance regarding the church protest and accusations of orchestrating agitation.
  1. The Left's Racial Narratives
  2. Cultural Commentary: Woods criticizes the left's continual focus on race and its implications on societal interactions.
  3. Pam Grier’s Comments: Discussion on Grier's controversial statements about childhood experiences with racial violence and historical accuracy.
  1. The Rise of Narcissistic Leftists
  2. Discussion with Britt Mayer and Will Witt: Examination of cultural shifts leading to a rise in narcissism among the left, discussing societal values and the need for purpose.
  3. Cultural Observations: Witt and Mayer critique the behaviors and motivations behind the actions of young leftists and protestors, suggesting a lack of fulfillment in their lives.
  1. Beckham Family Drama
  2. Brooklyn Beckham’s Statement: Examination of Brooklyn Beckham's publicized grievances against his parents, particularly regarding perceived control over his life and marriage.
  3. Public Reaction: Discussion on the implications of airing family drama in public and the reactions of fans and observers.
  1. Michelle Obama’s Fashion Statement
  2. Call for Diversity in Fashion: Obama’s remarks on ensuring diversity among fashion designers in one's wardrobe.
  3. Critique of Obsession with Race: Kelly and guests criticize the practicality and motivation behind such statements, arguing that it distracts from genuine issues.
  1. California Wealth Tax Proposal
  2. Discussion on New Tax Initiatives: A proposed 5% wealth tax on billionaires, including unrealized gains, and its potential impact on the state's economy.
  3. Critique of Government Spending: Concerns over California's management of tax revenues and their effectiveness in addressing issues like homelessness.

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Key Takeaways

  • Divisive Politics: The episode highlights how media figures like Don Lemon can become embroiled in controversies that reflect broader societal divides.
  • Cultural Identity: The discussions pivot around the idea of identity politics and how it shapes contemporary culture and political discourse.
  • Family Dynamics in Public Life: The Beckham family's open conflict illustrates the complications of raising public figures while managing personal relationships.
  • Government Responsibility: Critiques of government spending and taxation underscore the ongoing debate over fiscal responsibility and public welfare.

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Conclusion This episode of The Megyn Kelly Show features a blend of political commentary, cultural critique, and personal storytelling, revealing the complexities of navigating modern societal issues. The discussions present a critical lens on how public figures influence and reflect the zeitgeist of their times.

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Beckham and Obama's Fashion Controversy

0:45 to 2:18

Discussion on the controversy surrounding Michelle Obama's comments on fashion brands.

“Brit and Witt will be here later on some of our cultural issues.”

Legal Implications of Anti-ICE Actions

2:18 to 3:05

Exploration of the legal ramifications of actions by anti-ICE protesters in Minnesota.

“and they were conspiring against people's rights.”

Don Lemon and Political Agendas

3:05 to 3:47

Megyn discusses Don Lemon's role in the political landscape and his connections.

“which, of course, we knew when we heard him on tape appearing to conspire with fraudulent Somalis about how he was going to have their back.”

James Woods Joins the Discussion

4:51 to 5:28

Megyn welcomes James Woods back to discuss recent events and his views.

“I feel like I've been trying to get the two of us together for months, for months.”

Historical Context and Current Events

5:28 to 8:01

James Woods relates historical events to the current political climate and Don Lemon's actions.

“I just feel like it was a red line to go into a church and the full force of federal law needs to be brought down on everyone who did it.”

Democratic Party Tactics and Corruption

8:01 to 9:50

Discussion on the Democratic Party's strategies and controversies regarding corruption.

“And, of course, we're all enraged, disgusted, disappointed, just ready to just eat blood red meat to stop this kind of insanity.”

The Somali Fraud Scandal

9:50 to 14:01

Exploration of the Somali fraud scandal and its implications for the Democratic Party.

“And, you know, he'll have his opinions and I'll have mine.”

Controversial Commentary on Nicki Minaj

14:01 to 14:57

Discussion on Nicki Minaj's homophobic remarks and their implications.

“He would never do that to any other religion.”

Democrats' Strategy and Legal System Concerns

14:57 to 17:08

Analyzing the Democrats' legal tactics and the consequences for the legal system.

“I mean, one hundred and thirty two indictments for a law that wasn't even on the books and all this stuff and the fake impeachments and all that stuff.”

Political Migration in Virginia

17:08 to 17:53

Exploring the political shift in Virginia and its impact on elections.

“They will not survive if they have to rely on American citizens voting for them in a federal election.”
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Don Lemon's Legal Trouble

17:53 to 18:22

Examining the potential legal issues arising for Don Lemon.

“And so they'll do they'll do what they have to.”

Lemon's Claims and Church Protest

18:22 to 19:26

Critique of Don Lemon's claims about his church protest involvement.

“people in their place of worship, intimidating them and part of the crew that was physically obstructing them.”

The Reality of Lemon's Actions

19:26 to 21:01

Dissecting the actual events of Lemon's church protest and his narrative.

“They said, well, there is this thing happening that they've been sending out flyers for.”

Intent and Criminal Behavior

21:01 to 23:36

Discussion on the implications of intent in criminal actions.

“Listen to him before the protest began on Sunday morning on site.”

Law Enforcement and Drug Problems

23:36 to 26:35

Connecting immigration and crime issues with law enforcement strategies.

“turn him into a martyr, but you do want to make it clear something Michael Knowles said yesterday on your podcast that was so right.”

Racism and Entitlement in Society

26:41 to 28:00

Exploring themes of racism and entitlement in contemporary discussions.

“And they're also targeting people of color and black people as well as brown people.”

Understanding Don Lemon's Remarks

28:00 to 28:39

Discussing Don Lemon's comments and their implications.

“He's literally MAGA coded as if you're white or if you have the American flag.”

The Role of Law Enforcement

28:39 to 29:52

Exploring the responsibilities of law enforcement regarding illegal immigration.

“Look how casually he throws that out there, James.”

Personal Anecdotes on Immigration

29:52 to 31:25

Sharing personal stories about legal and illegal immigration experiences.

“You know, I have a friend who's a poker player.”

Critique of Don Lemon's Views

31:25 to 34:10

Analyzing Don Lemon's criticisms of ICE and the media's portrayal of immigration issues.

“You are the poorly educated that Donald Trump loves.”

Defending Working-Class Individuals

34:10 to 39:11

Defending the dignity of working-class individuals against elitist attitudes.

“We've played the soundbite for our audience many times of him with those two other losers from the Lincoln project, making fun of Trump voters with their maps.”

Racial Politics and Media Bias

39:11 to 42:01

Discussing the intersection of race and media bias in contemporary politics.

“crossed an ethical line or treated anybody poorly.”

Discussion on Don Lemon's Race Obsession

42:01 to 42:43

The hosts critique Don Lemon's focus on race and its implications in media.

“This guy was on Omaha Beach, living in a trailer park.”

Pam Grier's Childhood Story on The View

42:43 to 45:06

Pam Grier shares a poignant story about her childhood experiences with racism.

“This, let me show you what happened on The View yesterday as Pam Greer, actress Pam Greer, who's also, what do we know her from?”

Critique of Current Racism Narratives

45:06 to 47:27

The hosts question the validity of Grier's claims about racism in her childhood.

“It was, I think, completely forbidden, but I may be wrong.”

The Role of Power in Politics

47:27 to 48:58

A discussion on the motivations behind political power and governance.

“I'm afraid to ask what pinching a loaf means.”

Walkout Against ICE Discussion

51:00 to 53:14

The hosts discuss a planned walkout against ICE and its implications.

“Well, you better, because at 2 p.m., there's going to be some sort of a walkout by all weird leftists in support of, I don't know, against ICE.”

Narcissism in Today's Activists

53:14 to 56:00

The hosts analyze the narcissism seen among modern activists and their motivations.

“No, I made sure to go and get my latte before this, you know, just to make sure for the long lines that are going to be happening with all the baristas out of work after this.”

Social Contagion and Aesthetic Trends

56:00 to 57:50

Exploration of the social dynamics and aesthetics that influence groups in Minneapolis.

“Like my life choices that got me this terrible hair and this ugly nose ring and this hideous outfit were good.”

Commentary on Youth and Connection

57:51 to 1:00:02

Discussion on the struggles of young people to connect and find happiness in modern society.

“I think if we got this gal in our clutches, we could turn her life around in five days.”

The Martyr Complex in Activism

1:00:03 to 1:02:04

Analysis of the psychology behind individuals portraying themselves as martyrs in social movements.

“I do think if they would be less homely, they would be happier.”

The Impact of Nihilism and Purpose

1:02:05 to 1:09:09

Discussion on the rise of nihilism in America and its role in the lack of purpose among individuals.

“it will not be because of anything that i did i'm saying this because i need you to understand what you're supporting and what you're fighting against and possibly reconsider.”

The Case of Lizzie and Relationship Dynamics

1:09:10 to 1:10:01

Introduction to Lizzie's unconventional dating profile and the societal implications of her approach.

“Here's the first video that we were going to play when we first got introduced to this gal and her pitch.”

Ice Car Chase and Rage Against Men

1:10:01 to 1:11:31

The hosts discuss a woman who expresses her rage while confronting ice cars.

“She should do so, Will, to wind up with you, Will.”

Unpacking Emotional Turmoil

1:11:32 to 1:13:11

Discussion about the emotional struggles and behaviors of certain individuals.

“All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out.”

Introduction to the Beckham Family Drama

1:13:11 to 1:13:40

Transition to discussing the drama involving Brooklyn Beckham and his family.

“Okay, I wanna keep going because it's not just people like Lizzie or the weird pink haired, blue nailed gals who are struggling, April, right?”

Brooklyn Beckham's Family Feud

1:13:41 to 1:17:11

Brooklyn Beckham reveals the issues with his family's control and public narrative.

“So I don't think she cares about her husband's money or her in-laws' fame.”

Consequences of Public Family Disputes

1:17:11 to 1:18:44

Discussion on the awkwardness and societal expectations around public family disputes.

“And for the first time in my life since stepping away from my family, that anxiety has disappeared.”

Balancing Public Life and Family Privacy

1:18:45 to 1:20:48

Hosts debate the challenges of maintaining family privacy within celebrity culture.

“It makes me feel like I'm supposed to take a side and I don't even know what's going on.”

Mother-in-Law Dynamics

1:20:48 to 1:23:57

The group reflects on the importance of mother-in-law relationships and boundaries.

“saying, but I also kind of look at it and I'm like, is this kid going to return all the money from his family?”

Navigating Mother-in-Law Dynamics

1:24:00 to 1:26:00

Learn how to maintain healthy boundaries in family relationships.

“who I know is listening to this, who has done the most incredible job of being the most loving mother-in-law and never causing any issues in our marriage.”

Meghan Markle's Netflix Series Failure

1:28:51 to 1:30:54

Explore the reasons behind the cancellation of Meghan Markle's show.

“Okay, guys, so I mentioned Meghan Markle as an exception to the rule that the mother of the groom has to bow down in a way to the woman who's being added to the family.”

Public Perception of Meghan Markle

1:30:54 to 1:33:38

Understand the differing perceptions of Meghan Markle in the UK and US.

“I didn't know there was ever an era where we did care about Meghan Markle, but I suppose this is a surprise to me.”

Michelle Obama's Closet Diversity Comment

1:33:38 to 1:36:13

Discuss Michelle Obama's call for diversity in fashion choices.

“So it's interesting that she's lost both sides of the pond on this.”

California's Wealth Tax Proposal

1:36:13 to 1:38:01

Examine the implications of a proposed wealth tax in California.

“Don't you think, Britt, like the average person is just, do I like this or don't?”

Debate on California's Wealth Tax

1:38:01 to 1:39:08

Discussion on the implications of California's proposed wealth tax and its fairness.

“But here's Kara Swisher, leftist, who is angry at the billionaires who are already leaving California over this.”

Consequences of Wealth Tax on California

1:39:09 to 1:40:26

Exploring the potential negative effects of the wealth tax on the state's economy and job growth.

“She said you made the money, which should be the indicative thing right there that if you made the money, what entitlement does the state have to any of that money that you made?”
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0:00Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon East.

0:12hey everyone i'm megan kelly welcome to the megan kelly show there is big drama in the world of david beckham i mean i don't think we've ever begun a show that way but boy there really is uh and michelle obama is disappointed in us yet again um she really really doesn't like the fact that people are buying white-owned fashion brands. She really, really wants you to buy black, okay? You never go back, apparently. We'll play you the soundbite. Brit and Witt will be here later on some of our cultural issues. That's Brit Mayer and Will Witt. But we begin with the continued fallout from that outrageous action at a Minnesota church on Sunday from anti-ice agitators and Don Lemon.

0:59But I repeat myself, as we told you on AM update, the Department of Justice is now looking into potential face act. That's that act that prohibits you from messing with people outside of an abortion clinic or as luck would have it, a religious institution. They're looking into potential charges under that, as well as the so-called Klan Act, which says basically you can't conspire with somebody to deprive somebody else of their constitutional rights like the freedom to worship. and so that second act is more serious that's you get charged under the Klan Act it's a felony on number one your first offense you get charged on the FACE Act it's a misdemeanor if it's your first offense and it's basically slap on the wrist territory but if it's like a multiple you know if it's like your third violation under the FACE Act that's how they throw grannies in jail outside of abortion clinics but I think the reason we're talking about Klan Act charges is because those are all felonies and it's very serious and no one wants to be charged with that.

2:02And it's really not, it's sort of analogous to what happened in the South when we were trying to desegregate it and the government was trying to make that happen and local citizens, Democrats, were not complying and they were conspiring against people's rights. So anyway, it's just an interesting way to think about it. Potentially bad news for Lemon, especially if he's taking legal advice from Minnesota's far left attorney general, Keith Ellison. I mean, that guy, like it's been a long time since I've practiced law, though I remember it well. He's actively the practicing law as the attorney general of Minnesota right now, and he doesn't seem to understand it at all.

2:43He thought, for example, that FACE Act ended after protecting abortion clinics. Isn't that just so leftist? like, OK, as soon as I'm done hearing what's good for my side, I'm going to close the law book and pretend nothing else is in there. It's sad, though, because he's the state's top law enforcement officer and he doesn't appear to know his legal ass from his elbow, which, of course, we knew when we heard him on tape appearing to conspire with fraudulent Somalis about how he was going to have their back. he's not an honest broker by the way how does he even have time to go on Don Lemon's podcast to try to rehabilitate him yesterday doesn't he have a damn like community to indict in Minneapolis all these Somalis oh wait I forgot he was running cover for them back to my first point here to react to all this and more one of our very favorite people film producer songwriter multiple Emmy award winning actor James Woods who has a new album out right now called Tombstone Opera.

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5:09So it worked out for the better. But now here we are finally at long last. We missed you. And I have to say— Yes, we always love talking to you. I watched you yesterday and I thought, oh my God, I better not light a match anywhere near Megan. She's so—she's like fuming. I never saw you as angry as you were yesterday. I was stunned by you. I know. Are you feeling it? I just feel like it was a red line to go into a church and the full force of federal law needs to be brought down on everyone who did it. Right. But there's something here that you're going to be – look, I know what you wanted to hear me say is James Woods is going to come on and he's going to rip Don Lemon, a new asshole.

5:45Not that I'd be the first person to have done that, by the way. Oops. Anyway. So – but the bottom line is this is all a dog and pony show. It's a trick. I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about. Did you ever see the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson? At the end of the Patriot, the militia guys, the hardworking colonials who want to build this beautiful country, stand on the line against the British regulars. They have no chance of surviving. They break and they run over a hill. The British now, they've got them. They're going to go over and slaughter them all. And as they come over the hill, the entire colonial army is waiting for them and wipes them out.

6:26sends Bannister Talton to Yorktown to hide with Cornwallis, and they end up surrendering to Washington, and America is born. I am a ninth generation descendant of one of the patriots who was one of the militia men at the Battle of Cowpens, which was just a few days ago, short of 245 years ago. It was in January of 1781. Now, why am I bringing this up? Because they were a diversionary tactic. Don Lemon, a journalist. I mean, this guy, a journalist. Here's another soundbite for you. They're going to love this one. Don Lemon is the dingleberry hanging off the ass of American journalism. OK. And let me tell you, when CNN got rid of him, they didn't wipe hard enough.

7:13But all of that's colorful and it'll be a headline tomorrow. I know everywhere. Not as good as Nicki Minaj, by the way. And they can't deport me because my family's been here. She brought it. She was great. James Woods and Nicki Minaj, whoever would have thought, two peas in a pod. No way. You know, my family's been here since 1721. So I have a pretty good chance of not getting deported, I think. But here's the bottom line. This is a trick. It's a diversion. This small man, Don Lemon, is, you know, he was aware of everything that was going to go on. Oh, we're MAGA coded. He knew all the strategies.

7:53It's because he planned it. He wasn't just embedded. He was literally one of the ringleaders of this heinous act. And, of course, we're all enraged, disgusted, disappointed, just ready to just eat blood red meat to stop this kind of insanity. And that's what they want us to do. Because you know what they really are trying to do? Divert us from the one thing. Distract from their fraud scandal? You betcha. And it's not just a scandal, Megan. The Democratic Party, every single thing they do is centered on one strategy. How can we stay in power with nothing to offer the American people? There's nothing they have to offer.

8:41Nothing. They don't offer anything. All they do is take. They take trillions of dollars, it's turning out, in graft and greed and corruption. Why are they taking the money to fund their campaigns, to make sure that they can get in power. When they're in power, they open the floodgates, they let unvaccinated, unvetted illegals storm across the border to wreak whatever havoc they're going to wreak. But the one thing they're going to do is vote Democrat because they know where the money is and they know where the prizes are and they know where all the free crap is. In the old days of Tammany Hall, they stand outside a voting booth with five bucks in their hand, they pay a guy to vote.

9:19You know, my brother ran for mayor in our, my late brother, God rest his soul, ran for mayor in our little town in Ward, Rhode Island. And in Rhode Island, you have to run as a Democrat because you can't win any other way. It's like California. There are no Republicans in our... And anyway, he ran as a Democrat. And, you know, I noticed that, you know, and I support him. People say, you're supporting your brother? Aren't you right-wing? It's like, no, I'm very centrist. I believe in the Constitution. I believe in the laws of the land. My brother's a good and decent man. So I support him. And, you know, he'll have his opinions and I'll have mine.

9:57And maybe he'll listen to some of my stuff. Maybe I'll learn something from him. But either way, he's a good man and I support him. Every single fundraiser event where we sit outside supermarkets like people do in local elections, every time you were around a Democrat, the joke was, hey, vote early, vote often. and they say it like, oh, it's a little joke. Except when you say a mantra long enough, there are people who sort of feel it's okay. Why was everything they do is a scam? Why were they, no kings, no kings, Christ, it's so absurd. No kings, Trump's a dictator, all this stuff. You know why?

10:33If you took a poll of anybody in America and you said, listen, you go back in time and you could assassinate Adolf Hitler, commit a crime, murder, the leader of a country, would you do it? And yes, because according to Piaget-Kolberg, in their theories of moral development, the greatest level of moral development is even to break the standard law to do a greater good, which any decent human being would know was necessary for the survival of the race. And to rid the world of Hitler was important. So the ends justify the means. Now, if you call Donald Trump a dictator and everybody supports him a fascist and we're all Nazis and we're all pedophiles, you know, you say, listen, we got to get rid of this guy no matter what.

11:21How is it even possible that any American citizen can watch a presidential candidate, a former president of the United States and about to be the future president of the United States, get shot in the head? Oh, it was only in his ear. Okay. Three inches over and his brain to be splattered across the podium the way John Kennedy's were across the back of a limousine. Okay? And we've been watching that video, the Zapruder film, for 40, 50 years. Okay? Now, why is it there are people making jokes, entertainers making jokes from the stage? You know? I mean... Journalists questioning whether it even happened while Corey Crompetori is dead behind him, suggesting the whole thing is an op that Trump did just to make himself look good.

12:08But listen, so let me ask you this, because I agree with you. The Somali fraud scandal is of epically bad proportions for the Democrats. And don't take the bait. And don't take the bait. But, okay, but I disagree on that point, because... Well, I'm not saying that you shouldn't take the bait. You can't, like, what next? Do they storm a maternity ward and terrorize the babies, and we just say, don't take the bait? No, fuck them. Fuck them. We can fight many battles at once. When you asked that question, they saw the maternity ward. This is the party of murdered 50 million babies in the womb. I mean, you know, which is why I wouldn't want them anywhere near the maternity.

12:46But I'm just saying, like, we we we have to fight the certain tactics go beyond. And they must be answered. And I agree with you. A hundred percent. It's a new low. I agree with you. A hundred percent. But in the process of doing that, OK, we can't you know, it's that bright, shiny object. Oh, look over here. And it's like, oh, you know, when Nicki Minaj pointed out all the heinous things that this little man, this fake journalist, this pathetic, mean-spirited, racist, poor excuse for an American, decided to lead this mob into a Rockwell painting. I mean, there's little kids sitting with their parents worshiping God.

13:32I mean, when that all happened, the only thing that the liberal press reported in the newspaper was the unfortunate word that she used. And when we start, you know, the only thing Michelle Obama— I believe the word you're looking for is cocksucker? Yeah. Is that what we're talking about? The Nicki Minaj tweet. Yeah. Just to put a lovely spin on it, let's see. She tweeted out about Lemon. Don Coxsucking Lemon, forgive me, is disgusting. How dare you? I want that thug in jail. He would never do that to any other religion. Lock him up. And then a picture of the maniacal doll. I don't actually know this particular doll.

14:12This is probably somebody from some horror movie, but I don't do horror. It's too disturbing to her. Her name actually is Megan, but we'll talk about that another time. Oh, that's Megan? Oh, I did see Megan. I did see Megan. I didn't recognize her. The wrong spelling, though. So she's got the Democrats. And now people are ripping on another ripping on Nicki Minaj for being homophobic. Hello. Beside the point is not homophobic. She's using a slur to rattle him because she's ticked off. Says nothing of how she feels about gays. But here's what I think you were right about. But when the Democrats invested in the kind of lawfare that it was so egregious that it literally undermined the fabric of our of our legal system and of our nation.

14:57I mean, one hundred and thirty two indictments for a law that wasn't even on the books and all this stuff and the fake impeachments and all that stuff. Well, of course, it backfired on them. I agree that we've got to do. we've got to just honor the law. Our job is to obey the law and enforce the law. Our

15:23law enforcement officers, whether they be the immigration services, Homeland Security, FBI, local police, they swear an oath to uphold the laws of the land. You may not like the laws. I'm a Roman Catholic. I think abortion is murder. I'm not going to go out and shoot an abortion doctor because I disagree. I'm not going to shed a tear if those people have an unfortunate life, because in my mind, they're killers. But I've got to obey the laws of the land. These people have decided that they're going to recreate the Constitution out of whole cloth. And it's ironic. It's during the 250th anniversary celebration of the Declaration of Independence, which was centered on...

16:05You point out that this is like, this is all part of the Democrats' plan to get elected because they want illegals here and they want them ultimately voting. They need them here. And look at Virginia. Just as recently as 20 years ago when I started at Fox News, Virginia was red. It wasn't purple. It certainly wasn't blue. It was red. And it was pretty firmly deep red state, southern state. And it quickly, quickly migrated into purple and then into blue. And what is Abigail Spamberger's first act when she becomes, when she gets sworn in as governor there? She stops the cooperation with ICE. She wants to make it easier for every illegal in Virginia to do whatever the hell they want.

16:49She doesn't care that they're going to be molesting children. They're going to be murdering innocent moms like we've seen. What she really cares about is that they get to vote, James. And that's obvious because Democrats keep doing it and state after state after state. But it isn't just something that they believe in fervently in their heart. They simply will not survive as a political party. They will not survive if they have to rely on American citizens voting for them in a federal election. OK, if it were only American citizens and you could take away all the fraudulent mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting and all the rest of the nonsense that they do, if you could get rid of all the pallets of ballots coming in, you know, and the trunks of cars when the pipes break at four in the morning and, you know, nine days of counting and, you know, I mean, we just have elections.

17:43They count all the ballots by 10 o 'clock at night. But they have to have this because they cannot get elected with the numbers the way they are. What percentage did you think? Absolutely. And so they'll do they'll do what they have to. I mean, at some level, you almost have to admire it because they're so ruthless. I mean, I don't admire unethical people, but my point is simply they will do what they have to do in order to win these elections. And they're kind of open about it. I do want to get back to Lemon for this. It's interesting to me that he's lying about it. So he I think he's scared.

18:20He doesn't I don't think he realized that he was breaking federal laws when he entered that church and disturbed people in their place of worship, intimidating them and part of the crew that was physically obstructing them. I don't think he understood. And I think now he understands there actually is a real chance that he's going to be in serious legal trouble, especially if he gets charged on that Klan Act, because now we're talking felony. At a minimum, he trespassed. However, trespass is not a federal crime. So what are the odds of him getting charged for that by Minnesota officials? So it's got to be one of these federal crimes, which means it's likely serious.

18:52And we'll see whether or not they have him. It actually is fact specific. They're going to be looking at how much he did that sounded more like protester versus how much he did that sounded more like journalist. But he's lying about his behavior, which is a tell. He went on the crazy podcast of that very angry, weird faced woman, Jennifer. What's her name? Welch. All she does is yell. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. All she does is yell hateful things about Republicans. And I guess that's her shtick. Here he is. Listen, Listen, he claims he didn't know that he and his cabal were going to a church. Listen for it.

19:29They said, well, there is this thing happening that they've been sending out flyers for. Perhaps you want to cover this. So I said, sure. And I went, OK, I'll cover. And then when I went to cover it, they said, we're doing this this protest that is sort of similar to the civil rights movement where they show up places and they sort of disrupt the peace, like sitting in at lunch counters or, you know, drinking out of out of water fountains. that were only supposed to be for white people. And I said, sure, I'll go, I'll chronicle it. And they ended up at a church. I didn't even know they were going to a church.

19:57And they ended up at a church. And so once they went in and did their thing, other journalists started going in and I went in. So I'm not exactly sure, Jen, how I became the face of it unless they just think I'm the bigger name, but it's bizarre. And I reported on it. I interviewed everyone there, the pastor, some of the congregants and the protesters. And that was it. And now all of a sudden it blew up into this big thing where I am the one who is leading the protest and somehow I'm the agitator here when I'm just the journalist. Okay, just let me just make a couple points before I play you the soundbite of him before he went in.

20:31He didn't, oh, and I just interviewed, I just documented it. No one wanted to talk to him. The pastor made clear, no one wants you here. No one wants to talk to you. Get out. Put your stupid mic away and get out. Yeah. So he knew very well, he wasn't just there. I was innocently documenting. No, you were part of the harassment. You were you were pushing that mic into the faces of people who did not want you there and you had no right to be there and they had every right to eject you. And your harassment continued. But here, as for his claim that I had no idea we were going to a church. Listen to him before the protest began on Sunday morning on site.

21:08It's hot too. As Nakeem has said, this is clandestine, the clandestine operation. And then we can tell you what's going to happen after. We don't know what's happening. We kind of do, but we don't know how it's going to play out. Okay, so we are here. Now, do you think if you just have it, I think maybe if you just have it on the church, but they see me. On the what, Don? They're going to know. Yeah. no I don't it just depends what don't name the location I'm not blaming the name the location but I mean I mean I'm just wondering if you see me I mean the folks inside are the congregants really on live instead of in service right now no but they'll be like why is Don Lemon here Sunday morning church yeah okay we'll see like well what else it's Sunday and we already said the church.

22:08No, we didn't. You said it. Okay. They didn't name the church, James, but they said repeatedly at the church, the congregants, has the service started and this idiot let him get away with, I didn't even know we were going to a church throughout that interview. So he's trying to rehabilitate himself by lying, which shows a consciousness of guilt. Right. You know, almost every crime that is committed gets escalated when intent is involved. intent, conspiracy. These things are very serious when a person has a plan in mind that is not what they try to make it appear when the event takes place. You know, if a person says, I'm going to defend my household and they stand outside and they're looking for trouble and, you know, they make comments and wise guy, wise acre comments about shooting people in their houses and so on.

23:04You have to be very careful about those things, because they sometimes can indicate intent, and other times just frustration and so on. Look, this was an operation. I mean, it's an operation. It sounds like he's in Delta Force. I mean, he's just such a buffoon. But the bottom line is, the last person you want to turn into a martyr is this ridiculous clown. Okay. He's just a ridiculous person. And you don't want to turn him into a martyr, but you do want to make it clear something Michael Knowles said yesterday on your podcast that was so right. You have to stand up and enforce the law and you have to be tough about it.

23:48You don't like it too bad. You're going to go to jail. Look, our drug problem is killing thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of Americans. Okay. Our drug problem is our immigration problem. Our immigration problem is a Democrat strategy to stay alive as a political party. You know where they don't have a drug problem? Singapore. They catch you with drugs, they cut your head off, okay, or hang you, whatever they do over there. That'll do it. I mean, you know. That would do it. That would put an end to it right quick. You know, there are times. Look, years and years ago, there was a movie that was written based on a book by George Higgins called The Friends of Eddie Coyle.

24:31And in that day, these guys decided they're going to heist a bank or something. I can't remember what the crime was. And one of the guys, they give Robert Mitchum, who plays Eddie Coyle, a machine gun, I think. I'm not remembering it just right. But the point being, in Massachusetts, for years, it may still be the law, if you committed a crime with a machine gun, it was unequivocal, mandatory, mandatory, not up to discretion of some liberal judge, mandatory life imprisonment without parole, without exception in every case. That's it. You're going to jail till the day you die. Okay. Even the mafia, they didn't use machine guns.

25:12They don't use a machine gun. Are you crazy? If we get caught, that's it. We're done. There's no way out. Now in Chicago, where you have a mass murder every weekend, these gangs shooting each other, they have a thing called a giggle switch on their Glocks. It's a Glock switch. It's a switch you can put on your handgun. You squeeze the trigger. And if you have a 30 round magazine, you can rip off 30 rounds like a machine gun. And they do it all the time. It's like they use them all the time now. The police are up against these lunatics with basically machine guns. But nobody enforces that law with any force.

25:51You start enforcing the law. Look, how many times have we watched Kamala? Kamala, I've been to the border. You haven't been to the border. I've been to the border. No, you haven't. Well, I've been to Europe. That Kamala Harris, the border czar who'd never been to the border. You know, how many times do you have to listen to her and Mayorkas and Biden? Poor Biden. I don't make fun of him because he's got Alzheimer's. Stop that right now. We're not ripping on Kamala anymore until she gets the nomination. Like, just keep your powder dry. Let's let her sail right in there. She really believes she can do it.

26:22Wait, I want to keep going. We have a ton to get to. I only have you for an hour. I got to show you this. So separate and apart from, you know, the criminal charges and all that, and we actually are going to have a deep dive on the criminal charges tomorrow with Dave Ehrenberg and Mike Davis on this program. So you won't have a better legal debate anywhere. But here, of course, he goes back to his priors. he's all excited that he's the center of attention and he's got to raise all the things that he always raises like first i'm a gay black man in in responding to nikki minaj and then also these accusations which we heard from him in one way shape or form throughout his entirety on cnn and certainly since he's gone quote independent sought for i think that there is obviously this there's racism and at the whole point of it is that they're trying to they're detaining people on the streets because of accents and the color of their skin.

27:12And they're also targeting people of color and black people as well as brown people. So there is a certain degree of racism there. And there's a certain degree of entitlement. I think people who are in religious groups like that, it's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled. And that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy. And they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country when actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom. It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male, pretty much.

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27:43And so, yeah, absolutely 100 percent. But it's an intimidation tactic. I mean, it's unbelievable. I guarantee you all the people in that church are supreme versus Don Lemon. But I speak of intellect and class and manners. Well, Don Lemon is a bit of a racist himself, if I'm not mistaken. He's always a bit. He's literally MAGA coded as if you're white or if you have the American flag. It's like, you know. Great. A lot of people in my family were white and had the American flag and shed blood for it. You know, my dad had two Purple Hearts in World War II, you know, and in the Korean War. I wasn't wounded in the Korean War.

28:23But, you know, I just took it for granted that, you know, Americans have shed blood for more people shed blood in the Civil War for people with black skin than in every war since combined. More Americans died. Look how casually he throws that out there, James. He smears just these people sitting in a church in Minnesota, minding their own business. He has no evidence that any of them supports ICE or doesn't. There was an unconfirmed report that one of the pastors may have had an affiliation with ICE. So what? That's it. Nothing about anybody in the church, all the members who were there, the children, all smeared as white supremacists and not practicing his brand of Christianity.

29:06based on what? You know, Megan, it's really pretty simple. If somebody's breaking the law or has broken the law, the law enforcement people that we hire or vote for are responsible, are obligated to rectify that. And, you know, ICE in particular has been going after, There was a statistic yesterday that Homeland Secretary Noem broadcasted the news. 70 % of the people that I have arrested so far either have outstanding warrants or have committed violent crimes in the past. I mean, why? You know, I have a friend who's a poker player. He was in a Mexican gang. His last name is actually Irish. He's a great guy.

30:00We're friends and he goes, hey, man. Dinner at your house is going to be fun. But if you saw this guy, this guy gangbanger, he's one of the greatest poker players. He has three bracelets, World Series bracelets. He's a genius poker player. And we've become great friends. He goes, hey, man, I hear you're against immigrants. I said, there's not a single person in the United States who isn't an immigrant, including the so-called, you know, tribes that actually came across the Bering Strait into North America. But, you know, I'm against illegal, illegal immigration. There's such a thing as legal immigration.

30:38And the people who actually work hard to have legal immigration work so hard to do it. They have to get a lawyer and they study. And then I guarantee you, by the time they get their citizenship, so many of the legal immigrants in this country know more about the Constitution than half the people probably sitting in Congress. Certainly the Democrats. Although I will say a lot of these Somalis have become naturalized citizens and now there's a push to to denaturalize them, take away that citizenship if they've committed any sort of fraud or crime or, you know, welfare fraud, what have you. And I'm totally behind that, too.

31:16You don't get to come here, game the system just to get yourself declared an American just so you can mooch off the rest of us. Get out and stop with the mooching. Here's one more from Lemon. His thoughts on ICE, Sat 6. attention ice let me just say something that most people most journalists will not say they can't say it i understand that but uh i'm an independent journalist now so i can't say it fuck off ice fuck all the way off you are low-life losers and you feel empowered by your dear leader donald trump you have never had this position of power before small person and you are treating people in an inhumane way and you don't even understand why because you're too dumb to figure it out.

32:07You are the poorly educated that Donald Trump loves. That's who you are. And you're out there doing his bidding, doing things that are illegal, doing things that are unconstitutional, doing things that are inhumane, like killing someone because you're pissed off. You are fat fuck losers who just crawled out of a trailer park from some Proud Boy meeting, or if not worse. You know who lives in trailer parks? People who have sacrificed their lives or limbs for this country in wars throughout its history. You know, the fat people that he derives and so on. Yeah, you know, they're working hard. I'll tell you who's really, really disgusting people.

32:57The people who don't speak English with a driver's license in a truck, killing eight-year-old children in crosswalks, drunks, the ones who rape all of these women. We see, you know, page after page on X. I look at all these stories about the illegals who are raping and murdering. And, oh, we can do that. Where are we going from? We can rape 12-year-olds. it's just, it's appalling. And when he said, regular journalists can't say this, but I can say it. So in other words, there's a special class of journalists. Here's what journalism is about, getting the facts, reporting the facts, and doing it without fear or favor and without bias.

33:40When you say, fuck ICE, what you're saying is fuck the federal government in their obligation, their sworn obligation to the Constitution, oath on a Bible, to enforce the laws of the land. So when he says that, he just, I didn't think it was possible for him to degrade himself any further. He's a buffoon, but he's managed with this dog and pony show he did. This is a strain with him. This is a strain. We've seen this from him time and time again. We've played the soundbite for our audience many times of him with those two other losers from the Lincoln project, making fun of Trump voters with their maps.

34:20Yeah. Like Ukraine, like, oh, that their maps and their math, um, in like, you know, the fake Southern accent, like what a bunch of idiots down there in the South. And now you hear it again, the poorly educated that, oh, so you're shit. If you're poorly educated in Don Lemon's world, trailer park, fat fuck losers. Oh, what is wrong with the trailer park? Honestly, Don Lemon, the only reason he has tons of money, James, is because he's done serial lawsuits against people over and over and over to pad his wallet because he's too incompetent when it comes to talent to earn the money the old-fashioned way.

35:00That's why Don Lemon is rich. He's suing Elon Musk. That's not his first lawsuit. Trust me on that. I have documented many of them. And he now sits there at his ivory tower looking down on the people who made him a name, who helped him get at least some portion of that money from CNN. But he looks at them like they're shit. He finds them disgusting if they commit the one sin of wanting to see illegals who molest their children get kicked out. Don Lemon is a small man. He's a small man, period. That's it. Yeah, I mean, honestly, man is a stretch for Don Lemon. I don't know what he is. He's definitely been stretched.

35:52I mean, just man, the word man is almost a compliment. You know what I mean? Like an actual man connotes character above all, in my mind. He doesn't have it. I don't know what he is. He's just a little worm, just a little. I look forward to seeing him have to handle this whole controversy. You know, it's back in, I'm older than you, obviously. When I was in my college years, the Vietnam War was raging. People had different opinions. The opinions were, you know, people were inflamed, enraged. But you could at least say, okay, I disagree with so-and-so vehemently. But the one thing I can do is I can understand where they're coming from, where they think they're coming from.

36:37It makes sense. The one thing I didn't approve of, even if you were against the war and there were people who were passionate, they didn't believe that our presence there was justified. But then they'd spit on soldiers and go, oh, these guys, they're drafted. They can't do anything. They've got to go over there. They've got to do their thing. Or they volunteered. Very heroic people like Jim Stockdale. I played him in a movie once and got to know him. A magnificent man, great war hero. um ross perot is running me yeah but but here's the thing i don't understand what these people are on about i don't understand how don lemon is thinking i just don't understand what he's in right i mean if you do look what what do you want if you if you have a nation what do you want you want borders you have to have borders that defines a nation you have to have borders.

37:33They have to be enforced. You have to have a military for enemies foreign. You have to have law enforcement for enemies within. You have to have regulations in place to have an economy. And more than any of it, you need two things. You need free and fair elections, and you need the right of the populace to bear arms in case these motherfuckers don't do what the Constitution tells them they must. Mm-hmm. It's just, it's so, I'm sorry, but it is infuriating. Like I think about my, so my dad died when I was in high school. Mine did too. But my mom remarried. Yeah, we talked about that at one point.

38:21But my mom remarried and the man she remarried when I was young, like 19, had three kids of his own that he brought into the family. And ever since they've been part of my family. And one of those children was a young man named Patrick, who unfortunately died at age 47 of a heart attack. And it was tragic. But my point is simply, Patrick did not go to MIT like you, James Woods. He was a dear, sweet guy who wound up managing a Rite Aid, which is fine. There's, there's absolutely nothing wrong with managing a Rite Aid. It was actually a lot of work for the guy and he was really good at it. And you know where he lived?

38:59He lived in a trailer and he married a nice woman who loved him and helped him raise his kids. And he was a genuinely good man, like absolutely a person of character would never have crossed an ethical line or treated anybody poorly. And to hear this elitist fucking snot sit there and dismiss anybody who lives in a trailer as some sort of scum that can't be in the presence of Don Lemon while in the same breath, ripping people who are poorly educated. I don't know. I had my team just check. I had no idea where Don Lemon went to college. Brooklyn College, okay, and some other university he appears to have left.

39:36But he spent the rest of his life looking down on people who didn't take that step, mocking anybody who votes Republican. That's the underlying implication. As stupid idiots. And honestly, it's no accident that he became one of the faces of CNN. Oh, of course. That's what the CNNs and the MSNBCs of the world. That's exactly what they're looking for. They're not news organizations. They're propaganda organs for the Democratic Party. Don't kid yourself. I'm going to tell you something about a trailer park. My beloved mother, my beloved mother used to love to play cards at night. And she used to play with all these ladies, you know.

40:11And there was this couple, George and Lou Loof. and George and Lou, they're both like, they look like Tweedledum and Tweedledee. They're two little round people and so on. And my mom would say, hey, I'm going to go out with George and Lou. And I'd say, she said, why don't you come to lunch with her? I go, ma, you know, Lou's always like laughing and giggling. George doesn't say a word. I don't know what to do. I mean, but okay, I'll do it because I'd be visiting and I didn't get to see her as much as I'd like to when she was in Florida. So I go out to lunch with him and one day she said, we're going to go to the beach.

40:40We're going to go to Clearwater Beach. It's so beautiful down there, Clearwater, one of the most beautiful beaches. in florida and i said okay george you're going to go to the beach he goes oh i said okay okay good so we go to the beach and the lady said let's get down and dip our toe in the water and we'll take it one they go come on george dip our toe in the water he goes no thank you nope i said so george i guess i'll sit here with you yeah i said so george you like it there in the in the trailer park he goes yeah it's nice we got a little clubhouse and yeah it's nice i like it yeah And I said, but you don't like the water much, do you?

41:15He said, nah. I'm not crazy about the water. I said, well, how about boats? You can get in the boat. You don't have to be on the boat. He goes, I really don't like boats. I said, well, Jesus, George, I mean, would you ever have on a boat? He goes, oh, yeah. I said, what, did the boat sink or something? He goes, yeah. I said, you were on a boat that sunk? He said, yeah, I was on four of them. I said, what? You were on four boats that sunk? He said, yeah. I said, where? He said, Omaha Beach, June 6, 1944. I brought those boys on shore, and they died. I managed to get the boat halfway back. Some of the boats sunk.

42:01This guy was on Omaha Beach, living in a trailer park. And Don Lemon would have to stand on a stepladder to be able to sniff his ass. that's a worthless. Perfectly said. His obsession with race. I mean, again, I'm the face of this because I'm a black gay man. His last words practically before CNN fired him, he wanted to remind new managers, I'm black and I'm gay. I'm black and I'm gay. As this is a force field around you cannot, you cannot fire somebody like that. And he is not alone in this weird race essentialism that continues to permeate some factions of the left. Most factions of the left, let's be honest.

42:40They're not over it. It's just a mantra. It's a worthless mantra. This, let me show you what happened on The View yesterday as Pam Greer, actress Pam Greer, who's also, what do we know her from? This is before my time. Foxy Brown. She was Foxy Brown. And she's done some other stuff too. But she's on The View because she's an actress. and this is how she described her childhood in Ohio. Watch this. You faced a lot of racism growing up in Columbus, Ohio. How did that shape you? Well, the military wouldn't allow black families to live on the base, so you had to live in an apartment. And you couldn't take a bus.

43:27You couldn't afford a car. You walked. Your dad's walked to the base. and sometimes we would go from tree shade to shade to get back to the apartment, my brother and I and my mom with bags and my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look and she'd pull us away because there was someone hanging from a tree and they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left and it triggers me today to see that a voice can be silenced. And if a white family supported a black, they're going to get burned down or killed or lynched as well. Oh my God. Okay, so James, she was born in 49.

44:18She wants us to believe as a young girl, so what are we talking about, maybe 59, 10 years later, 1960? Well, first of all, let me just interrupt you. Black people lynched in Ohio? More importantly, I did a movie called Distance years and years and years ago. We filmed it in Georgia, right outside of Hinesville. And it was about integration in the Army. And the Army was integrated in 1954. You could, you know, it was Eisenhower was responsible for making sure that the army was completely integrated in 1954. So I find it hard to believe. I don't know for a fact, but I find it hard to believe that there was segregated housing in the army after 1954.

45:06It was, I think, completely forbidden, but I may be wrong. And, you know, and I don't think they were lynching people. She claimed that she walked by and saw black bodies lynched on the trees in Columbus, Ohio, where there were approximately zero lynchings and only 11 in the entire state, with the last one being in 1911. 1911. This woman was born in 1949. But the whole, all the cast of The View, oh, it's horrible. The audience, oh, like as if she were born in like 1870, James. But that's so representative of the left. There's been no progress. It's just we're lynching people. And today, to this day, the whites want to lynch the blacks.

45:54That's how she landed it. The only massive discrimination that I see in the world today is Christian churches being burned all over the world. They're being burned at rates that are just astonishing. Big cathedrals, I mean, all over the world. Christian massacre in Africa going on in all these places. And in the United States now, if there's this mantra that's been starting, oh, you know, white people are horrible, white supremacism, white this and white that. It's like, you know, when I grew up, you just lived your life. You know, Republicans get elected in the old days. It's like, okay, we're here.

46:36Democrats get elected. Now Republicans, when they get elected again, they got to clean up the mess. The Democrats are never satisfied. They are the party of misery. If there is no real misery, they have to create misery. Because if you have misery, you can do the grift, okay? They've spent$24 billion. It worked out to$170 ,000 per person after they took a census of homeless people in California, okay? $170 ,000 per person. That's what we have spent. And the homelessness is there everywhere you look. I mean, there's always some. It's like you're trying to create more of it with that money. I mean, we're driving down the street.

47:20Yes, you're in beautiful Brentwood and there's some guy pinching a loaf on the sidewalk. I mean, it's just horrible. It's horrifying. It's horrifying how we live. I'm afraid to ask what pinching a loaf means. Use your imagination. Some sort of defecation. Is that what you're suggesting? Is that what that is? Yeah. Or is it a sexual thing? No, no. Okay, okay, so I got it. Yeah. That's so gross. Yeah, I mean, you have to look at it. Look, I have to say, my beloved wife, Sarah, I love her so much. You know, we're always everywhere together. We're like a little nation of two. We're always hanging out.

47:52We love each other. We have a great time. Everybody goes, oh, you guys. We've been together 10 years. We missed one night apart when I did a sleep study, and that was it. Okay? And so, you know, I had a Porsche. I was driving around in a SUV, and she was with me. But I had this little Mini Cooper. And I said to Sarah, you know, why don't you just use the Mini Cooper when you're going into Beverly Hills or something? Because it's easy to park. It has front wheel drive. So you don't have to do three-point parking and all that. She's a great driver. But she's great. Finally, she said, if I have to see one more naked man at eye level in Los Angeles, I'm going to just stay home.

48:30I said, what do you think? I'm like at eye level. It's like all the time. I swear to God. She started taking pictures. In the Mini Cooper. Hooper. You're just, you know, it's like, oh, my God, it never ends. But I figured it out one day. And everything that the Democrats do or allow to be done has a motive. And the motive is always about one thing. It's about power, because when you have power, you get elected and election is power. And once you have the power when you're elected, then you can set up all the NGOs and all the USAID and all the, you know, fire for the Palisades, you know, all this bullshit that they do, and then pocket all the money yourself.

49:12Give you a perfect example. Yes. Trained to nowhere. You want to hear a statistic? Here's a little mathematics for you. I'm going to tell you. Here's a little arithmetic. There are 39 million Americans, Californian citizens. If you were to take every citizen in California and you were to send them to Tokyo,$1 ,200, $200 to take the bullet train to Kyoto and then stay in the Ritz-Carlton overnight, $700,$700, total of$2 ,800. You would spend sending every Californian on a beautiful trip to Japan on the bullet train and going to Kyoto,$109 billion. And you'd still have$19 billion left over for Gavin Newsom to grift for the train to nowhere, which has never in all the years we've been funding it, ever laid one foot of track.

50:00That is so horrifying and something people are going to be hearing a lot more about as we approach 28. Got to run, James. Thanks so much, James Woods, everybody. His new album is Tombstone Opera. Check it out on YouTube, Spotify and more. Lots of love. We're back with Brit and Wit. From Amazon MGM Studios comes Melania. Every detail, every decision, every stitch intentional. This new film takes you inside the 20 days leading up to the 2025 presidential inauguration through the eyes of the first lady herself. From fittings to critical meetings to private moments, witness the precision behind her return to one of the world's most powerful roles, Melania.

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50:49All right, we've got a lot to get to this hour. cultural news, including the latest in the Beckham family bombshell. And it is now 1 p.m. in the east. Do you know where your employees are? Well, you better, because at 2 p.m., there's going to be some sort of a walkout by all weird leftists in support of, I don't know, against ICE. They're trying to make a point about ICE. I'm going to play the soundbite, but first let me introduce my panel. Britt Mayer is here. She's founder of Rooted Wings and host of The Britt Mayer Show. and Will Witt, who is author of Do Not Comply, which is my own advice to my own employees if they're thinking about getting up and walking out at two.

51:30Let me give you a heads up. If you do it, don't bother coming back. You're all fired. But I don't employ crazy people, so I don't have to worry about this. Yeah, so I don't think Britt and Witt are worried either. I know your name is Will, but I just kind of like the Britt and Witt thing. I don't think you guys are worried either about having people in your orbit walking out, but let's just look at the people who are encouraging it and we'll keep an open mind. You know, like maybe they'll maybe they'll convince us. Let's watch. I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. On January 20th, we are walking out to free America and walking in to remove the regime.

52:04We're walking out of work, walking out of school. We're walking out of anywhere and everywhere because it's past time and we stop cooperating with fascism. Starting at 2 p.m. local time, we'll start a wave of walkouts across the nation. Send a clear message that we demand freedom from this hostile and lawless takeover of our country. Then we'll start walking in. Congress has the power to remove a tyrant from office. It's not an option. It's their sworn duty. So at 3 p.m., we'll start walking in to local congressional offices to demand impeachment and removal. Donald Trump has committed tyranny and obstruction of justice.

52:41And turning ICE into a paramilitary force is an act of treason. On January 20th, we are telling our congressional officials that it is their duty right now to impeach, convict and remove. OK, I'm not sure, well, whether they're going to get her done. And I also have an issue with just saying 2 p.m. local. Like what what does it mean exactly? Because, you know, 2 p.m. here in the east is different than 2 p.m. in California, like where Brit is. I think there's going to be chaos. I'm not sure I like the planning or the faces of the movement. But what do you make of it? No, I made sure to go and get my latte before this, you know, just to make sure for the long lines that are going to be happening with all the baristas out of work after this.

53:23Right, right. Good point. But they obviously don't have very much organization. You know, this is some social media marketing campaign. But all it really shows is how much of a religion all of this is to these people and how unserious they are. You know, it's so easy to just go online and make some silly video about, oh, we're all going to walk out and we're so tough and we're so brave and we're really fighting against fascism. And when reality, I mean, look at what they're doing. They're on their phones with free speech talking about being able to be let out of their job to go and protest the president or ICE agents or whatever it is.

53:53Like you live the most comfortable, wonderful life throughout human history ever. And you're sitting here complaining about this just solely to get virtue signaling points over other people. It's not going to be successful. It's very disorganized. And I think a lot of people are probably going to lose their jobs if they're actually serious about leaving. You know, Britt, we were talking to Adam Carolla earlier this week, and he was saying all of these people are narcissists. That's what we're seeing everywhere is just raging narcissism. I'm going to show you one video. I'm not sure if it's narcissism in this person's case.

54:24It's kind of shocking if it is. But she's kind of indicative of the vast majority of these women that we're seeing online, these little white, woke liberal warriors out there and how they think and talk and look. Here she is in SOT 36. With the current state of the world and specifically the country. Bob, huge glasses, nose ring. maybe being single and childless oh boy is actually

55:03my biggest asset i'm not trying to sound like oh wow i'm gonna save the day because fuck if i know i'm not i'm just one person but all my friends who have children they can't go to a protest and risk getting arrested or worse so i guess those of us who don't like

55:32let's fucking go i i genuinely want to discuss this with you because the tell is right there brit you don't see a brit mayor out there at any of these protests because you're together you're beautiful You have a loving husband. You have a happy home life. You've got stuff going on professionally as well. Things are good. The girl, she gave it up at the top, right? Like maybe being single and childless is an asset. She's trying to talk herself into it. Like my life choices that got me this terrible hair and this ugly nose ring and this hideous outfit were good. I feel validated because I see all these other women who look like me doing what I'm doing.

56:17And I found my army. I finally belong. There's definitely a big element of that in what we're seeing in Minneapolis. Yeah, I think it goes into like the social contagion aspect where they all look the same. No offense, but that's just from a very neutral perspective. They all look the same. They look weird. They look out of place. They look like the old theater kids from high school who never really figured out how to do adulthood, and they're clinging on to the weird hair, the teddy bears, the oversized jewelry, the loud colors. I think it's sad. And I was actually watching last night. There was some little video clip of, it must have been like a parade of these people.

57:03I don't even know where it was. But it just occurred to me, It is so sad that so many of these people just look mentally ill. It's like there's become this pride in not fitting into society because you're so weird, because you don't have a marriage, because you don't have kids, because you like you don't fit in. And so you've made that your flex. And I think it's very sad. It looks like a mental illness. It doesn't look like anything I would be drawn to or most normal people, critical thinkers, independent thinkers would truly be drawn to. It looks like it's a club for the misfits. You know, the misfit toys movie, like my kids watch it during Christmas.

57:42It's like that. It's like Island of the Misfit Toys trying to be important and make that their flex. But yeah, you're never gonna see me. Let me ask you a question about this gal. I think if we got this gal in our clutches, we could turn her life around in five days. Oh, sure. I really do. I think we would make her over. We'd give her a meaningful job. We would talk to her about getting rid of the nose ring and those big blue nails. we would give her like a cute little wardrobe that, you know, she looks petite, unlike most of her brethren who are out there. And I like, I think that girl really just wants, I mean, I've said this about others in this protest.

58:16They really just want a boyfriend or a girlfriend, like the ones that are like, you can tell these are sad saps out there. Well, I don't like part of it is a commentary on America and young people today, their inability to connect, to like be happy, to find love. They're just so miserable and they lean into unattractive, which never served anyone well in the history of the world. I mean, why would you go and dress up like that if it wasn't for some sort of reason? There has to be some sort of mental cognition behind that to be able to go and do something like that. I find it very sad as well, but I honestly, I think I have to say I disagree with you with being able to change that person.

59:00I think that there are some of these people who are out there who have made this such a deep-seated part of their personality, their morality, their reason for living, that I think it would take longer than five days for most of these people. Now, I think that if they had someone who truly loved them and a boyfriend or whatever, like you were saying before, then you could assuage a lot of these different things that are going on inside these people's psyches. But I mean, when you get validation from every corner of America, I mean, you're talking about American society and our culture right now.

59:28What is it? I mean, it's disgusting. It's horrible. I mean, you have Megan Thee Stallion getting Artist of the Year, Fauci getting National Geographic made out of them, Black Lives Matter getting the Nobel Peace Prize or nominated for the Peace Prize. The culture is just daft and awful. And so these people doing these weird things and being these kind of people are getting that validation from everywhere. And so if they continue to get that validation and that sense of meaning from this nonsense, then it's going to be very hard to change these people. And I don't really see a world where any of us three could come together with these people and have a unified America, which might be a good thing.

1:00:03I do think if they would be less homely, they would be happier. I'm not trying to be mean. I genuinely believe it. I think it could start with some Mozempic and some Accutane in 90 % of the cases that we're seeing out there. And they'd be on their way to They don't have to terrorize ice. I'm just being honest. I really think these things could help. Raw milk. And maybe some Invisalign. That could also be very helpful. There's, on the narcissism front, this woman, she tracks. She was on my Twitter feed this morning. And I think, like, the self-aggrandizement is representative of what we're seeing from a lot of these little weekend warriors out there.

1:00:47They're like, if ice crosses my path, I'm going to fucking kill them. You're not like, OK, you know, you've been saying that I'm not trying to encourage it. Trust me. But I'm just saying, like, they're super tough, like looking into their iPhone. Here's this woman who went a different way. She went the martyr route. All I know her as is liberal white woman, according to the Internet, who's got very bleached hair and a Minnesota sweatshirt on for the listening audience. She looks probably 40 to me here at watch. this is a message from my mom if i am executed by ice officers today it will not be because of anything that i did i want you to know a couple things first i don't carry weapons on me second i won't be holding any signs there will be no indication from me that i'm a violent person or a threat to anyone I do not plan on following anyone.

1:01:47I do not plan on screaming or shouting or even speaking to anyone. I am there to observe and document. okay this is a historical moment for me in my lifetime for the state of minnesota and no matter what the outcome is i believe it deserves to be documented if i am executed today by ice officers it will not be because of anything that i did i'm saying this because i need you to understand what you're supporting and what you're fighting against and possibly reconsider. Megan, what is it called when you set up in legal terms, like when you set up a defense ahead of time? Not a defense at all. Because that's what it means.

1:02:40Yeah. Oh, and of course, it's all about her. Like, this is, this is a big day for me. I'm part of history. I'm going to get executed. We're all Renee good who was unfairly executed by a terrible ice agent. And I'm basically her, this woman needs it. She needs it. You guys, like it's doing something inside of her that like is, is bringing her alive for the first time. She feels needed and relevant. And like, she's actually convinced herself that she's going to be a martyr that ice is just executing like heavyset, blonde 40-year-olds in the street because they're doing that for the fun of it. I think it's Marxism.

1:03:19It's this whole, the wave of Marxism that's been pushed on, you know, the youth and even that age, whatever age that is, is the oppressor, oppressed narrative. And so she has embraced that she is a part of the oppressed and she's out to get the oppressor. And so if anything happens because she is a part of this minority, oppressed community, then it's the oppressor because it's nothing she did. it's the whole Marxism narrative recycled, repackaged for 2026. It's boring and usual. Don't you think if she, like, even if she had a job, Will, and I'm really genuinely trying to solve their problems, what if we got her a job in, like, data processing or something, like, the small wins are good enough.

1:03:59You know, you just have little wins in your day where, like, you completed a task and you maybe had a boss who said, good job, April. I'm just taking it a shot. And like these little, these little moments of victory could maybe make a whole person who doesn't feel like she's got to go out there and talk about how she's definitely dying and she, but she's part of history. Meanwhile, no one's going to lay a finger on April. No, of course. But to be honest, this might make me sound a little Gen Z millennial was saying this, but in terms of the current American job, HR, bureaucratic corporate world, I think there are a lot of issues with it.

1:04:38And I think that it kind of kills a lot of people inside when they see the processes at their work and, and the processions and HR world and all that kind of stuff. It makes people really down about having to work in America today. There's not a lot of meaning. You live the life exactly as everyone else, answering emails all day, staring at a screen, you go back home and watch Netflix and your life is, I don't want to say basically worthless, but you basically view your life as worthless because that's all you are. If you died, your company would replace you the next day. So I don't know if necessarily getting a job for like a data analyst for this woman would be the end all be all of changing her life.

1:05:13It would be a small win. But what I really think is that these people need more. They need some sort of purpose. They need something that is going to give them the drive when they wake up every day and say, man, life is great. I love my life. It's a miracle that I am here, a complete blessing that I get to live in America and be this person. But unfortunately, I think for a lot of people, especially I think for the younger generation, they don't have that. And I think the atomization of people in this country is just going to get worse and worse off of that. And you're going to find more people to radicalize by these things.

1:05:44I want to follow up with you, Will, on this because I know you're big on the raw milk. You're into Maha. You are too, Brit. But we're all taking steps to improve the quality of the food that we put in our bodies and how we take care of ourselves and hopefully extend our longevity and our wellness while we're here. And I actually think that this is all part of it. Like I think that, look, it's no accident that virtually all these women are very heavy. And I do believe that like you sit there, whether you're male or female, you stare at your phone all day and you shove in potato chips mindlessly.

1:06:20You never work out. You never go for a walk. You don't have a rich social circle, you know, of people who you love or who love you. I've said it before. I'm going to say it again. You're not getting action. Like whether it's from a spouse, a boyfriend or girlfriend, but like there's no, no one touching you in a way that makes you feel loved or adored or hot. You're certainly not having any euphoria that comes from an active, healthy sex life. All of this, I think these are building like these weird little empty shells of people who can be powder kegs or they can just be sad little, you know, like April, just like sad.

1:06:55You know, I, what do I, I need something to make me feel special. And I, I actually do kind of think we need to like backward quite a ways to try to get rid of this problem. And it starts with like, how do we start filling people up? I mean, the real answer Brit is it's your mom and dad. They have first responsibilities in this department, but like the iPhone dependence is bad. The ubiquitous streaming options. You can, you never have to leave your TV if you don't want to. That's bad. Will's point about what corporate America looks like right now is bad. The absence of real human to human contact and ways of meeting people is bad.

1:07:30The increase, I would argue in like ubiquitous gummies and cannabis is not great. Even though alcohol use is going down, that stuff's going up. All these seems like, seem like recipes in a toxic stew that's creating those people we're looking at. I think a big part of it, Megan, is, and you know, I like we share the same faith. And I think a huge part of it is that we have seen this trend toward nihilism in this country where it's God is dead. You are the God of your own life. We're just these little machines that have there's really no purpose because there's nothing ever after. And so that sense of nihilism that's really infected us in America in 2026, I think, is a huge culprit in why we're seeing people who lack purpose, who go home and they get on their screens endlessly because they have no purpose beyond the moment.

1:08:21And I think that the antidote to that is to re-infuse purpose and meaning, not just in the ever after, in our faith, but also in things like patriotism, having love for country and hoping that this country withstands the next 250 years, having purpose for the next generation, that our children will grow up with the freedoms and liberty that we enjoy. Even the purpose of defending against radicalism that can create a new future with AI, you know, spiraling out of control. But I think when you have a lot of people who have been given no sense of identity and purpose beyond the moment, you end up with what we're seeing right now.

1:09:05Let me show you something on this. Well, we've kind of been following. We haven't been able to get these sound bites on all week, but we on the show have been following the plight of this person, Lizzie. Oh, yeah. Sister needs a date. Here's Lizzie. Here's the first video that we were going to play when we first got introduced to this gal and her pitch. Take a listen to Top 50. Here we are at my official dating profile request. I am 42. Actually, I'm almost 42. I am a relationship anarchist. I am on the lookout for somebody who right now, I'd be able to call and say, hey, get in the passenger seat and let's go fuck some shit up.

1:09:46If you're interested in fucking some shit up, if you're not afraid of a woman who can speak her mind, if you're interested in sitting in a side seat, message me. We got shit to do. Okay, she blew a kiss into the camera. Is that real? She's 42. I caught the kiss. That's real. Oh. She should do so, Will, to wind up with you, Will. We did actually play that soundbite, but there's an update in her case. Okay, so she, well, I'll just play it. Here's Sot 2, 52, 51, 51. Curing borders. Buck ice, we ain't gonna play nice. Oh, you wanna fight? Putting on a gas mask. Oh. Buck ice, we ain't gonna play nice.

1:10:29Oh, you wanna fight? She's not kidding around. She's putting on the protective safety goggles. I mean, come on. And the cafea.

1:10:41The cafea over the gas mask.

1:10:48Get the gear and get outside. If you can, of course. Those are swim goggles. I don't believe this is real. There's no way this is real. It's the huge protective safety goggles we all got in shop. And, you know, if you didn't wear them, somebody could lose an eye and then they were mandatory. Tori. Here's the epilogue where she checked back in and let us know a little bit on how she got this way. Sot 53. You know, one thing that hating men has trained me for is literally trained me for chasing fucking ice cars off of my street. Five of them right now. Following down the neighborhood, honking, blowing whistles, telling them to fuck off.

1:11:36All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out. I have been trained for this moment. Bitch, I will follow you everywhere. Okay, so, well, we went from trying to find a passenger princess who wants to date and fuck some shit up, to dancing in our ice goggles. Yeah, okay. To the rage I have against men is coming out. So it doesn't seem like she got a lover out of her tactics. I don't know whether this whole thing is a massive dating scheme for some of these women, but Lizzie, she's a live one. Yeah, I hope that she's still single. I'd love to message her. I don't think I'd ever be bored in a relationship like that, you know, if you love a good debate.

1:12:19But obviously these people, again, I mean, it really goes back to this whole thing. How can you do these things if you had anything of any sort of interest going on in your life that brings you joy? Obviously there is nothing that is bringing this person joy because you would not act like that. I mean, even if you had like a good book to read or something like that, your life would be completely turned around in a day. But these people harp on these things and they get so invested in it and they want to say they hate men and come at me, bitch. Oh my goodness. I mean, it's like, it's laughable, obviously.

1:12:50Can you imagine approaching this woman in a bar, not knowing that this was like a tycoon Lizzie, typhoid Lizzie? Like it was like, I hate men. I'll get my poison over everyone. Yeah, it's not great. So the problem becomes self-fulfilling, right? It's like one thing leads to another, leads back to the same thing and so on. And then next thing you know, they're out there harassing an ICE officer. Okay, I wanna keep going because it's not just people like Lizzie or the weird pink haired, blue nailed gals who are struggling, April, right? There's not just the Aprils of the world who are struggling in their family relationships.

1:13:23That's my presumption. It's also people at the upper echelon of society when it comes to money, fame, privilege, access, you name it. And that brings me to David Beckham, Victoria Beckham, and their son, Brooklyn Beckham, and his wife, Nicola. And the wife is an heiress herself. She comes from a very wealthy family. So I don't think she cares about her husband's money or her in-laws' fame. And this may be part of the problem because Brooklyn Beckham just went jihad on his mom and dad, David Beckham and Victoria. And forgive me because he posted it in a written post. So I have to read it. He says he had no this is page six reporting.

1:14:12He had no choice but to break his silence on his longstanding family feud. The mother and the wife do not get along. But it's beyond that. Now we learn in a lengthy Instagram story statement. he said his parents had been controlling narratives in the press about his family and tried to ruin his relationship with his wife, Nicola Peltz Beckham. Okay, here is what he wrote. I've been silent for years and made every effort to keep these matters private. Unfortunately, my parents and their team have continued to go to the press, leaving me with no choice but to speak for myself and tell the truth about only some of the lies that have been printed.

1:14:46I do not want to reconcile with my family. I'm not being controlled. I'm standing up for myself for the first time in my life. For my entire life, my parents have controlled narratives in the press about our family. The performative social media posts, family events, and inauthentic relationships have been a fixture of the life I was born into. My parents have been trying endlessly to ruin my relationship since before my wedding, and it hasn't stopped. My mom canceled making Nicola's dress in the 11th hour, Victoria Beckham is a designer now, of course, despite how excited she was to wear her design, forcing her to urgently find a new dress.

1:15:20Weeks before our big day, my parents repeatedly pressured and attempted to bribe me into signing away the rights to my name, which would have affected me, my wife, and our future children. No idea what that means. They were adamant on me signing before my wedding date because the terms of the deal then would be initiated. My holdout affected the payday, and they have never treated me the same since. During the wedding planning, my mom went so far as to call me evil because Nicola and I chose to include my nanny Sandra and Nicola's nonny at our table, presumably at the wedding, because they both didn't have their husbands.

1:15:56Both of our parents had their own tables equally adjacent to ours. Sounds like Victoria was not happy. She called him evil for that. Since the moment I started standing up for myself with my family, I've received endless attacks from my parents, both privately and publicly, that were sent to the press on their orders. Even my brothers were sent to attack me on social media before they ultimately blocked me out of nowhere this last summer. My mom hijacked my first dance with my wife, which had been planned weeks in advance to a romantic love song in front of our 500 wedding guests. Mark Anthony called me to the stage where in the schedule was planned to be my romantic dance with my wife, but instead my mom was waiting to dance with me.

1:16:33Instead, she danced very inappropriately on me in front of everyone. I've never felt more uncomfortable or humiliated in my entire life. I know it's bad, it's bad. We wanted to renew our vows so we could create new memories of our wedding day that bring us joy and happiness and not anxiety and embarrassment. Almost done. My wife has been consistently disrespected by my family, no matter how hard we've tried to come together as one. My mom has repeatedly invited women from my past into our lives in ways that were clearly intended to make us both uncomfortable. The narrative that my wife controls me is completely backward.

1:17:07I have been controlled by my parents for most of my life. I grew up with overwhelming anxiety. And for the first time in my life since stepping away from my family, that anxiety has disappeared. Whoa, whoa. Dirty laundry out on the clothespins on the line. Yeah. I'm literally crying right now. What is, what's happening here? I confess I haven't been totally paying attention to this other than I knew Victoria and the new wife of her son do not get along. So get us up to speed. What are your thoughts on it? I don't know. I was hoping you were going to pitch it to Will. You want Will to go first?

1:17:44Will's got thoughts. Here is my thought on it. My thought on it is this is why my husband hates social media, because he's like, social media has ruined culture. And while I agree that there are moments like this where you see it, there is also good with social media. So that being a caveat, I think that we've reached this weird era where it's like we, instead of handling things privately, And I get that they're celebrities, so things are a little different. It's like royalty. But I've gone through stuff with family that was never made public, that was kept private, and we handled it, and relationships were broken, and a couple were restored.

1:18:21But we didn't air our public underwear, you know, is what this feels like. I don't know where to stand on it. And I think it makes the public uncomfortable because now the onus is on us to take a side. And we don't even know what's going on. So I think that this is where airing public dirty laundry like this just feels uncomfortable and wrong. And we just want it to kind of be private. And I know that celebrities are from a different world, but I don't know. It makes me feel like I'm supposed to take a side and I don't even know what's going on. I mean, it's one of the reasons why, you know, when I started to become more public and then we had kids, it was very clear to both Doug and to me we would not be putting them out there at all for consumption.

1:19:03We don't post their pictures. You know, to this day, it's very hard to find a picture of my kids on the internet. Like only one publication did it a long time ago when they were little. And that's by design because we're religious about it. We don't think just because we've chosen to be in the public eye, they should have to do it. Now, the Beckhams went a different way. But I will also say in their defense, they're the Beckhams. I mean, it would have been really hard. You know, and I think the same about Tom Brady and Giselle. Like, they're not going to have their kids show up at the Super Bowl and watch Tom Brady.

1:19:31you know, like not going to show, have their kids show up at the World Cup and watch David Beckham. So it's like it is hard to maintain the privacy when you're a megastar like those guys. I agree to an extent. I also think that one of the things that he said in that post that I read yesterday was about the branding, making your family a brand. And I've even seen small little social media accounts like cute homeschool moms do that where I'm like, I don't know if you fully understand that you're creating a brand versus a family and you're having your kid play a part and fit them into this picture.

1:20:04And I think that's the lesson in all of this, even for, you know, us normal little moms is just to be careful about how we represent our families and our kids. And we also think ahead about, you know, our kids will live the internets forever. So they live with the images that we push out. And I think it is a caution to not make your child, your brand. Yes. I never felt it was important enough to have strangers tell me how cute my kids were to sacrifice their privacy, their anonymity, and their right to grow up without the public lens on them all the time. Obviously things were different in the Beckham family and you can feel this kid's resentment well.

1:20:46Yeah. I can sympathize with everything you guys are saying, but I also kind of look at it and I'm like, is this kid going to return all the money from his family? Is he going to give up everything that they've given him and all that? Or is he just going to come on social media and start crying about it? You know, it feels kind of like a loser mentality. Now we can, because he married an heiress. Exactly. It's like loser mentality, in my opinion, where he's coming out and now saying this after all these years and putting this out there when he feels safe and confident enough and, you know, everyone's anxiety and stress and all that.

1:21:16That's all the rage now. You know, everyone wants to hear about how stressed you are because of all these things. And it's just like you look back in history and think about, like actual monarchs and empires and family drama within them. And I can't imagine these people were going to the common folk and saying, look at all how stressed my dad made me about these things. And maybe that's a weird example, but honestly, it just feels so fake and nonsensical. Talking about choosing a side, I have no side because I think they're both just ridiculous people that we shouldn't worry about whatsoever. I kind of have a side because I'm biased, obviously, because I have three kids, but I think you should respect your mother and father.

1:21:55I mean, even if they're imperfect, even if they're doing things that bother you, I think you should respect your mother and father, especially when they're public figures. That stuff he wrote about Victoria Beckham at the wedding was meant to humiliate her. And I'm sure it did. I'm sure she was mortified. And I think whatever she's doing, I trust whatever she's doing, she's doing it out of like a deep, profound love for her son. Like she's maybe not behaving well. I can't totally take him at face value, but she seems desperate to have her son in her life, Britt, and maybe she's not handling it perfectly.

1:22:31I would hope a child would remember that. And even though he's madly in love with the new wife and maybe there's some friction there, like to keep some grace there for the mother and father who raised him and obviously adore him. Yeah, and I mean, if you're the mother-in-law, note to self, like you probably don't want to jump in on the first dance. I mean, I'm just going to throw that out there. If that actually happened, probably not a good call. Not good. But, you know, we were talking about this before we went on the air. The one thing that I know, I know this. Now, I accept the royal family out of this because they're royals.

1:23:02Like, everybody comes to them. Everyone's subservient to them. So this is not about Meghan Markle, who behaved very badly, as we all know. But in general, you as the mother in particular have to make it your job that your son's wife likes you. You got to treat that like a J-O-B because he is going to prioritize her over you. And if you make it a contest between the two of you, you'll lose. I'm sorry to say it, but I know it's true. Mine are still young enough that they don't, you know, that's a ways off, but that's human nature. That's the way we continue the human race. Of course, he's going to prioritize his wife over his mom and the moms of the world, we just have to bite our lips and suck it up and pretend if we must that we love this girl in order to keep our son in our lives.

1:23:56Am I wrong? No, you're so right. And I'm so, I shout out to my mother-in-law who I know is listening to this, who has done the most incredible job of being the most loving mother-in-law and never causing any issues in our marriage. And she knows her boundary lines. She loves my husband as her son And she loves me as a daughter and has always encouraged and strengthened, you know, our marriage, but has never interfered or meddled to make it where he has to pick one side or another. So many lessons in this topic. And I think one of the part of the my mother-in-law always used to say, you know, the rule about like three, a three day, no more than a three day visit, like fish and visitors go bad after three days.

1:24:37But the one thing she, when we lost her last April, but the one thing she always said was that she was wonderful. She never gave advice unless you asked it. Like she would never just like weigh in on something she saw you doing with the kids or she saw Doug and I discussing or debating or even like big career moments that she was living through with me, tumultuous stuff. If I asked her, she would give me her opinion, but she never offered it gratuitously which I do think helped avoid resentments between us. So good. Just given the nature of the role, right? Right. The roles we don't. What do you think, Will, as the man on this panel?

1:25:15Yeah. I mean, I'm not married, so I don't have, you know, mothers-in-laws and these kind of things. But I think what you guys are saying is spot on. I think that right now in America, there is a problem with young men actually being too attached to their moms and not actually kind of leaving the coop and going out and doing things on their own and being too dependent on that feminine energy from their mother. Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung both talk about this quite extensively about staying with your mother for too long. So I think you do have to be willing to do that. And I think that if a mom can't handle that, that that's what you're going to do, then there's probably some validation needs that she has on her part that she needs to address herself.

1:25:49Oh, I'm definitely going to make sure my children do not read Freud or Jung. Get back into the basement. That is much better, yes. Don't read that. Okay. Stand by. We're going to take a break and then we're going to come back with Brit and plenty more to discuss. Don't go anywhere. Let's talk about All Family Pharmacy. They do what pharmacies are supposed to. They just do it better. They get people the medications they need fast and at a fair price. When you don't want to wait in line or deal with insurance headaches and you want your medications delivered straight to your home, All Family Pharmacy makes it simple.

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1:28:47Back with me now, Britt and Witt. That's Britt Mayer and Will Witt together. Okay, guys, so I mentioned Meghan Markle as an exception to the rule that the mother of the groom has to bow down in a way to the woman who's being added to the family. Of course, Prince Harry's mother passed, but his stepmother is the Queen of England, and so she bows to no one. So, in any event, the dynamics are different. But Meghan Markle is in the news today, and there is an interesting headline. The headline is, sadly, With Love, Meghan, her Netflix series on how to be a mini Martha Stewart will not be coming back for a third season.

1:29:28And of course, the dirty little secret with all of this is there actually was no second season either. There was only the first season, which as soon as it wrapped and hit air, they had her announced, oh, I'm getting a second season, which were just additional episodes she had already taped. Oh, no. There was no renewal. She just made it look like the first one was a success. So they gave her a second. Wrong. She had bought, they had bought like a 20 episode run or whatever it was. Maybe it's a 10 episode run. And I didn't actually wind up watching anything more than that first season, which Maureen and I parodied in one of my favorite things we've ever done on our channel.

1:30:07And now they say, because things are ranked so poorly, her show first debuted in March of 2025. It ranked 383rd on the Netflix list with 5.3 million global views in the first half of 2025. but when season two debuted last August, it didn't even make the list of the streamers top 10 that week and kind of just crapped out. So no season three for With Love Megan. Instead, she's going to be focused on building her lifestyle brand as ever. So are we officially over Megan Markle? I feel like this might be the nail in the coffin. Is it? What do you think, Will? I didn't know there was ever an era where we did care about Meghan Markle, but I suppose this is a surprise to me.

1:31:00But I think that's probably right. I mean, I think it's honestly with a lot of these things going on in movies, art, TV, things like that, I do think there's actually a shift happening in that, where people don't want this kind of, how would you say, fakeness that's in all of these things now. I mean, a lot of it, you know, I think there's a big turnaround. I think people are starting to realize that this leftism and wokeness and fakeness that we've put into our art and culture right now has not been successful. And I think there's going to be a big renaissance of people who are getting into these fields right now who are going to start making things in a much more better and diverse, in the way that I mean actual good diversity type of way, versus what we've been seeing for the last 10 years.

1:31:41And I think Meghan Markle is just a fossil of that era of these types of people who we see right through as nonsense. That's a very interesting take on her, Brett, that it's basically her inauthenticity is what doomed her as opposed to her narcissism, her disrespect, her neediness, like that just to boil it down to her inauthenticity. Yeah. I was actually in the UK just a couple of months ago. My producer and I went over there and we had an opportunity to just kind of on the ground, not about Meghan Markle. That's not why we were there, but in casual conversations, no, no. But yeah, that was my write-off.

1:32:17You We were going over to talk about Meghan Markle. No, we had opportunities with the cabbies who are from South London, and they're just real boisterous, and they like to talk. And so I frequently, I asked about Trump. I asked about America. It's funny. There are thoughts on the American Revolution. We can talk about that some other time. But one of the topics I kept bringing up was Meghan Markle. What do you guys think about her? And across the board, so negative. And it wasn't because she's not authentic. They don't like her because of her disrespect. and that was something that they kept qualifying was she's just very disrespectful.

1:32:49She came in and disrupted. She was entitled. She was arrogant, narcissist. Those were the things I heard in the cabbie accent that I love out there on the ground in London and in the UK. Over here, I think is different. I think over here, it's what Will just said is that Americans are really starting to turn toward, we want authentic. We don't want things that feel manufactured and forced. And Megan exemplifies that. She feels forced. She doesn't feel relatable. She feels like she wants to be the Sussex or whatever it is she says. But she doesn't feel like someone I want to hang with. But she was Sussex now.

1:33:26She's Sussex now. And you have to call her that. It doesn't feel like someone you want to hang with. So I think in America, it's that we don't feel like she's raw. But in the UK, they don't like her because she's disrespectful and she's arrogant. So it's interesting that she's lost both sides of the pond on this. You don't think it's authentic to when you walk into a house that she's visiting and she's the only one in there other than like the maid for them to have to call out the Duchess of Sussex. She's not even the one arriving. She's in the house. Did they do that? You're walking in and there's great.

1:33:59Remember when I came to visit you and you had the maid yell out? Yes. The former Miss California. That's how it works over here. OK. Yes, totally. I get it. It makes sense. Let's keep going because Michelle Obama is back in the news. She's obsessing over race again. I know you're shocked. Shocked. Here's a little bit of that from the Storehouse and Friends podcast this past Sunday. If I hear of someone whose fashion that I like and I know that they're a person of color, I try to make it a point. But the clothes have to be available. You know, I think we can all do some work to think about that balance in our wardrobes.

1:34:37You know, what does our closet look like and who's in it? Who are we supporting in it? Right. You know, and I think if you have the money to buy Chanel, then you have the money to buy everybody. Right. And so let us be mindful, I think, would be my advice. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Now we have to do work to make sure our closet has a diversity of designers. She's not talking about make sure you have pink, green, blue and black and white. She's like, make sure you have people of color designing the clothes or somehow you've fallen down on your inclusive whatever duties. I don't. Do you do that? Well, I'm sure when you got dressed today, did you look into Patagonia?

1:35:23Like, what is the color, the skin color of those behind the brand? Oh, yeah. If they're not white, I won't buy it. Yeah, it has to be from white people. It's imperative. Yeah. What ridiculous. They say there's all these race issues in America and racism is the biggest issue and we have to fight against these things. and you have the most famous people in America constantly always talking about race any single time that they can and you want racism to be solved just shut the hell up like you don't have to talk about these things and say anything and there will be no bad race relations in this country like the way these people proclaim that there are but they keep bringing them up and saying things like that and pitting us against each other making it so that now I have to be here looking like if I say oh I only want to buy from white people then I look like this horrible person And it's all hypocrisy and nonsense.

1:36:08And these issues only exist because of people like Michelle. Yeah. Don't you think, Britt, like the average person is just, do I like this or don't? No one's thinking about the skin color of the designer. Like, that's such a weird thing to ask us to focus on. And in that way, clothing is very meritocratist. It just screams privileged. I don't have time. I don't have time or I'm not privileged enough to have time to go and find out exactly what melanin type was a part of constructing my jeans. I just buy jeans because they look good. American Eagle. That's where I'm grabbing my jeans. I don't care if there's a black, Asian, white, Hispanic dude or woman that put it all together.

1:36:50I do care about American made. That's important to me. So if I have the opportunity to buy an American made pair of denim jeans, I'm going to go for that. Overall, the woman made labels I see now when I go shopping, like woman owned is a big label I see, BIPOC, black owned. I see all of those. And I actually avoid those because they annoy me because I think it's a part of this culture that is so obsessed with race and pitting men against women that I just want a good pair of denims. And if it's American made, that's where it ends for me. So much the better. Last but not least, in California, they are seriously considering a wealth tax that would tax individuals with a net worth over$1 billion, a one-time 5 % tax on their total wealth, which would include unrealized gains.

1:37:40So if you've made money on the stock market, but you haven't actually cashed in the stock, they're going to tax you on that. And it would apply to those who are residents as of January 1st, 2026. So like, it's a retroactive tax. Like if you live there on the first of this year, you're screwed. This is actually really scary. And I would argue illegal. I think it's going to face some serious legal challenges. But here's Kara Swisher, leftist, who is angry at the billionaires who are already leaving California over this. And I think what it is, it specifically targets about 100 people, I think it is, who are threatening to leave California, except for Jensen Huang, who's apparently staying.

1:38:19I have two minds of this. One is, you made your, and I said it to one this weekend, I said, you made all your money in California, you ungrateful piece of shit, you could figure out a way to pay more taxes, and we deserve the taxes from you given you made your wealth here. The second thing is, yes, there are different ways to do this, but the length of time it would take, the kind of vehemence you would fight, whatever happens, means nothing would happen. So why don't we just do shock and awe at this point, because you don't seem to be, you know, availing yourself to thinking that you owe your state something more.

1:38:57So if a billionaire who's paid money on all of his wealth as he's built it, Will, doesn't want to give 5 % of his entire net worth, he's an ungrateful piece of shit, says Kara Swisher. Well, she literally said it in there. She said you were working in California and made this money. She said you made the money, which should be the indicative thing right there that if you made the money, what entitlement does the state have to any of that money that you made? Right? I mean, already and you look at it. You already paid taxes on it. You already paid taxes. And then look at what California does with the taxes.

1:39:25Look at the homelessness crisis. How many billions did they put towards the homelessness crisis in California and it's only got worse? It's the worst state in the union for homelessness and they put the most amount of money towards it. Where are these taxes even going to go? It's completely worthless. So, yeah, I mean, it's totally unfair. It's exactly right. You're a California taxpayer, Britt Payer. Do you feel like they're using your money well? I just wish they would tax us more, Megan. I'm out here just thinking, man, they really need some more of my money. No, but you know, honestly, there are billionaires who are already leaving the state and moving their assets because of the risk of this, because this is how you kill a state.

1:40:00And Gavin Newsom knows that. And as slimy as that little guy is, he has been one of the first to come out against this California wealth tax and said that this will destroy California even more than it already is because you take the billionaires out. Then you take out the opportunity for job growth and creation, and it decentifies living in California if you have money and ideas. So the whole thing is a disaster. I hope it doesn't even get enough signatures to go on ballot. It's amazing. Like you ungrateful piece of shit, she says to billionaires as if they've just pocketed the money. Unlike the rest of us, they didn't have to pay any taxes on it.

1:40:35They've created no jobs and there's been absolutely no give back by these people to the community. All these are leftist lies. And what a bizarre way to treat the most successful among us, especially in California. Okay. A pleasure, you guys. Thank you so much for being here. We'll talk again soon. We're back tomorrow with our Megyn Kelly channel friends from Real Clear Politics and our Star Legal Panel. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Megyn Kelly is joined by James Woods, actor and musician behind "Tombstone Opera," to discuss the true damage from Don Lemon and his agitator friends with their church service stunt, how they are a distraction from the real scandal of the fraud in Minnesota, Lemon now lying about his role in the church disruption, his awful comments trashing the innocent parishioners, the left’s constant racial focus, Pam Grier's questionable comments about witnessing lynchings, and more. Then Britt Mayer, host of "The Britt Mayer Show," and Will Witt, author of "Do Not Comply," join to discuss what’s really behind the rise of whining and narcissistic leftists, how they need a better sense of purpose and a makeover, the shocking accusations in viral posts by David and Victoria Beckham’s son against his parents, the complicated issue of when parents have problems with their child's spouse, Michelle Obama saying everyone must make sure their closet has black designers in it, her obsessions with racializing everything, and more.


 

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