In short
The episode argues that newly released Anthony Fauci diary entries (via Rand Paul) show Fauci as vain, politically manipulative, and responsible for COVID policy harms—especially school closures—while also discussing Trump’s WHCD comedy backlash and “DSA madness” in Democratic politics.
Guest backgrounds
Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of The Counter-Revolution, The Fall and Rise of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement (out September).
Key claims (as presented by the hosts/guest): Fauci allegedly prioritized fame and image over public health; he allegedly misrepresented COVID origins (pushing a pangolin/bat narrative while privately acknowledging lab possibilities); he allegedly used federal power and grant funding to reward researchers who aligned with his preferred narrative; he allegedly helped suppress dissenters (e.g., Scott Atlas, Jay Bhattacharya, Martin Kulldorff) and coordinated with compliant journalists to shape coverage; he allegedly influenced mask and vaccine guidance and overrode independent advisory recommendations; he allegedly pushed school closures by contacting Bill de Blasio and others.
Notable examples
Fauci diary entries dated March 21–22, 2020 about Washington Post front-page praise alongside thousands of deaths; Fauci allegedly calling de Blasio to close NYC schools; Fauci allegedly texting/pressuring CDC leadership (Rochelle Walensky) to override a 9–6 vote against boosters; diary notes about dinners/texts with Jake Tapper and praise from major media figures; Fauci diary entries mocking critics and tracking celebrity/press attention.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFauci's Diary Revelations
1:08 to 2:00
Discussion about Dr. Fauci's diary entries and his self-image during COVID.
“Thanks to Senator Rand Paul, we now have Anthony Fauci's diary entries during the height of COVID.”
The Impact of Fame on Decision-Making
2:00 to 3:14
Megyn reflects on how fame influences public figures like Fauci.
“When I was coming up the ranks as a very young reporter at Fox News, like the Washington Post did a profile on me and it was Howie Kurtz long before he had joined Fox News.”
Headlines and Political Shenanigans
3:14 to 4:16
Overview of recent political news and a humorous take on Trump's performance.
“just a moment where you got a little attention, I get it.”
Headlines and Political Shenanigans
5:18 to 6:21
Overview of recent political news and a humorous take on Trump's performance.
“He is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of the forthcoming book, The Counter-Revolution, The Fall and Rise of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.”
Fauci's Narcissism and Public Health
6:31 to 7:48
Victor discusses Fauci's narcissism and its effects on public health.
“These Fauci headlines are unbelievable, Victor.”
Corruption and Misrepresentation
7:48 to 12:36
An analysis of Fauci's misrepresentation of COVID data and its consequences.
“He was the same type of person, but General Mark Milley.”
The Consequences of Poor Leadership
12:36 to 14:03
Examining how Fauci's actions negatively impacted public health during the pandemic.
“If he had come out on day one and say, you know what, we were mistaken, gain-of-function research was outlawed the United States, I understand that.”
Fauci's Diary Insights
14:03 to 18:23
Discover significant revelations from Dr. Fauci's diary regarding his role during the pandemic.
“Front page in Washington Post yesterday and op-ed by Maureen Dowd in New York Times today about me.”
Controversial School Shutdowns
18:23 to 21:46
Explore the debate surrounding school closures and Fauci's claims.
“Unemployment, GDP, inflation, everything was booming in the last quarter of 2019.”
Media Complicity and Praise
21:46 to 22:52
Analyze the relationship between Fauci and the media in shaping narratives.
“But I think we may get a lot of Fifth Amendment or we may get him just admitting, you know, when when he when he lied or possibly just going with the I don't recall, because even admitting he lied, that's fine.”
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Political Weaponization of Science
22:52 to 28:00
Learn about the political implications of Fauci's actions and their effects on public perception.
“And the Biden administration canonized it.”
Fauci's False Narrative and Media Response
28:00 to 30:00
Explore how Fauci shaped the narrative around COVID's origins and the media's complicity.
“They did the same thing because Jay was also a Hoover fellow and they did the same thing to him.”
Revelations from Fauci's Diary
30:00 to 36:20
Delve into the insights from Fauci's diary regarding his knowledge of COVID's origins.
“He knew in January that the quote market was not the source.”
Political Manipulation and Public Perception
36:20 to 42:00
Discuss the political implications of Fauci's actions and public perception during the pandemic.
“Maga Barbie, who we had on our show, who got caught at the Capitol on January 6th.”
Critique of Fauci's Legacy
42:00 to 52:33
Explore Victor's insights on Fauci's actions and their implications.
“And finally, this, Victor, just a couple of examples of how more examples of how much he was loving the love.”
Media's Relationship with Fauci
55:09 to 56:01
Examine the media's complicity in Fauci's narrative and its broader implications.
“And I didn't raise it because that actually is normal.”
Fauci's Impact on Public Trust
56:01 to 1:04:05
Explore how Fauci's lockdown policies led to public distrust and social divides.
“And they were just mimicking that no one ever said we owe him all this things.”
Trump's Return to the White House Correspondents Dinner
1:04:06 to 1:08:42
Discuss Trump's controversial jokes at the Correspondents Dinner and media reactions.
“And among other things, he's getting a lot of crap, the president is, for the jokes he told about Caitlin Collins, who is never nice to the president.”
Double Standards in Political Humor
1:08:43 to 1:10:02
Analyze the double standards in political humor and celebrity reactions towards Trump.
“You know, they didn't seem to have much of a problem when it was Wanda Sykes up there making inappropriate jokes about hoping Rush Limbaugh would die, which Obama thought was funny.”
Celebrities and Threats Against Trump
1:10:02 to 1:11:35
Discussion on celebrity threats against Trump and the perceived double standards in outrage.
“And then we had Snoop Dogg shooting him.”
Media Jabs at Trump's White House Dinner
1:11:35 to 1:13:10
Analysis of media reactions to Trump's jokes and jabs at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
“weren't allowed to exercise, which is very bad for kids.”
Obsession with Trump in the Media
1:13:10 to 1:16:18
Exploration of media personalities' obsession with Trump and its consequences for their careers.
“They always say that he's an 80 year octogenarian, near octogenarian, and he eats Big Macs and he's overweight and they have all their cartoons.”
The Downfall of Critics
1:16:18 to 1:18:16
Discussion on how various critics of Trump have harmed their own careers through their obsession.
“Look at all these people who were very prominent.”
Ryan Clark's ESPN Departure
1:18:16 to 1:24:00
Review of Ryan Clark's outspoken comments on politics and his subsequent firing from ESPN.
“Robert Mueller destroyed his reputation.”
Critique of Nancy Armour's Commentary
1:24:00 to 1:35:31
Exploration of the backlash against Nancy Armour's controversial article relating Emmett Till to sports issues.
“race, race, focus, and use it and leverage it for their own career.”
Democratic Socialists of America Insights
1:38:00 to 1:43:14
A discussion about the ideologies and strategies of the DSA and its leaders.
“OK, replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them.”
Tim Dillon's Take on DSA
1:43:14 to 1:43:24
Tim Dillon's perspective on the DSA's composition and political insurgency.
DNC's Financial Troubles
1:43:24 to 1:44:48
Discussion on the financial struggles of the DNC and recent controversies.
“And those people are a real insurgency and the Democratic Party's old and boring and bloated and corrupt.”
Transcript
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1:02Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. We have lots of news to get to today. Thanks to Senator Rand Paul, we now have Anthony Fauci's diary entries during the height of COVID. I mean, to the surprise of no one who listens to this show, Dr. Fauci was way more concerned with his fame and image than with the fate of the country. Like not since James Comey have we seen someone this narcissistic and self-aggrandizing in a public role. And I include Trump in that. I include Trump easily in that. Anthony Fauci makes Donald Trump look humble. He makes him look like a humble, insecure.
1:53I can't believe what I read in that guy's diary, Andrews. I can believe it, but it's still shocking to see how vain and pathetic he was. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you a quick little story. When I was coming up the ranks as a very young reporter at Fox News, like the Washington Post did a profile on me and it was Howie Kurtz long before he had joined Fox News. He was the media reporter and he did a profile on me and I thought it was so great and I thought it was like so cool that he had done it. So I kept a copy of it. And then I don't know who the next one was to do a big profile of me, but they did it and I kept a copy of it.
2:39And then there was another one and I kept a copy of it. And then I had like a little scrapbook only wasn't a scrapbook. It was just a pile of like five art. And then, you know what happened when we got to the sixth article, I threw them away because I understand when you, when you're first like starting to collect some attention, you're like, oh my gosh, wow, Washington Post did an article on me. That's so cool. A mile marker in time. Then maybe a second, yeah. And then when you realize you've become a public person, they all kind of blend it. You no longer have to hold on to them because you're like, I'm just doing my job now.
3:13If you think you're just going to be a flash in the pan or this is just a moment where you got a little attention, I get it. It's like, that's kind of cool. this guy was every day collecting this article and that front page piece and this magazine and this news anchor and a friendship is forming with Jake Tapper. Oh, and look, and everyone knows who I am. And not just that, I crossed the street and people yelled nice things at me and told me I was it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I've never seen anything like this in public life. I know a ton of very famous people as a result of my job. Not one is like this.
4:00Not one. Honestly, I feel like it's Comey and Fauci. How did poor Trump get saddled with both of those guys? which you know he inherited both of them um all right we'll we'll get to that in one second but also just a couple of headlines we're going to get to the democrats um continue to be in free fall as another leader is accused of throwing something at a fellow dem in anger and forced to speak to hr plus you got to hear president trump's comedy set from friday's white house Correspondents Association dinner. They got they all got back together after that attempted assassination that happened a couple of months earlier to the president's credit.
4:43He said, we are not allowing this would be assassin to cancel this event. We are coming back together. And he got up there and he made off color jokes like they always do. But CNN is very angry because these were Trump's off color jokes, you see. And so they're not allowed. Like if you do it while there's a Democrat at the lectern or a comedian hired while there's a Democrat president sitting on the dais, that's fine. Okay, that's different. But when you have Donald Trump up there being off color, well, that's evil. And CNN is very, very angry. We'll talk about it. Joining me now is Victor Davis Hanson.
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6:36VDH, welcome back. Great to see you. These Fauci headlines are unbelievable, Victor. I'll just give I'll just give the audience something quickly as a specific example. This is from his private diary, March of 2020, specifically March 21st. Big front page article about me in the Washington Post. Very flattering. My national and international fame is explosive and really unimaginable. It is not hyperbole to say that today I am the most famous and talked about person in the country and one of the most recognizable persons in the world. OK, they're pointing out that the deaths that day were ninety eight hundred.
7:29So we had ninety eight hundred people dying and he was very focused on his Washington Post. Very flattering, big front page article, and his national and international fame being explosive. Your thoughts? You're right about Comey. I might add Mark Milley, too. He was the same type of person, but General Mark Milley. But the thing about it was that it bothered me the most. That was obviously the keystone that explains a lot of his behavior. He was a pathological narcissist. but did you remember what he was doing? He was, he had all this evidence. He would get experts together and then he would say, well, you know, eight out of 10 say that it came out of the lab.
8:19And then he would misrepresent that and say that it was still a pangolin. And the reason he was doing that from, as you followed the stream, I read a lot of them is that he was invested because he had helped fund this lab through Peter Daszak and echo health. and he and Francis Collins were paranoid. And so they were misleading the American people and the scientific community. And as part of that effort, Megan, he's mentioning about grants. And you got the impression, it's pretty clear that he was taking public money and the billions of dollars and doling out money to individual researchers, not just on the science, but predicated to how well they praised him or their research supported his pangolin bat thesis.
9:07And so he was utterly corrupt as well. And then he had, it's kind of tragic. I have kind of a personal prejudice because Scott Atlas is a colleague of mine, but I remember those years when they went after Scott, who was a public health expert and the world's expert on the brain and MRI technology. and they went after Jay Bhattacharya, the National Institutes of Health Director now, and they went after Martin Cullendale. Called him Fringe. Yeah, and they called him Fringe. And then you hear this Alicia, is that her name, Griffith, at The View? And she was tasked. She writes. Alyssa Farah. Farah, yeah.
9:48She's tasked as if almost she's a CNN booker or something. She says, I will help get Scott Atlas. And she's communicating with Fauci. And his crime, when you start to read about it, what he was actually saying was that masks are good for health care officials. But if you think it's going to stop everybody masking up, it's not going to do it. If you want to protect people with quarantines, go take all your resources at 65 and above. But children are not going to be subject to death from this virus. Don't shut down the schools. It'll destroy people's educate. Don't shut down the economy. It's going to have substance abuse, familial abuse.
10:37It's going to be a ripple that won't get out of this economy and social life for years. and they were all for the vaccines, the three of them. They said the vaccines are valuable, but they do not stop being infected or being infectious. They have a limited utility and the boosters - No, we were the first, I think, I'm pretty sure we were the first show to put on all three doctors - I think you were. Behind the Great Barrington Declaration. That's how we got to know Jay Bhattacharya back in the day, as he and his colleagues from Harvard and Stanford were being dismissed as fringe by Collins and Fauci.
11:11They were. And these emails are full of his smears. Yeah. If you disagreed with him, you got smeared. And then Birx was, she was trying to explain. And then Fauci, remember, was bragging that he's, he almost sounds like he's seduced Trump. He's got Trump over, I've now got a very strange relationship and I'm working on Trump. And you could see they were blackening these three people who were proven correct. And by the way, they've never, in the case of Scott, the Stanford faculty censored him. And then a few months ago, they've embarrassed people, said, let's uncensor him. And they wouldn't do it.
11:50They still censored him. They're still angry at him. And I wrote three columns on his defense. And I was told not to write them anymore. And I had all these faculty members attacking me. I had the Stanford Alumni Association president call me or write me and say, you better stop it. We have too many complaints about you. And all I was doing is saying, why don't you let these people's views be aired honestly and evaluated on the science rather than demonize them? And so the final thing, I think you're right about that to mention the deaths, because for all the narcissism and these using this federal agency to kind of like Comey used the FBI to punish enemies and help friends.
12:32They really did. What he did did result in a lot of deaths. If he had come out on day one and say, you know what, we were mistaken, gain-of-function research was outlawed the United States, I understand that. I thought that I was doing good by circulating money or greenlighting visits from scientists to go over there and give them instrumentation and advice, and that was wrong. and he was even opposed, Megan, to the travel ban from China at a time when the Chinese government had banned all travel from Wuhan anywhere in China and they were sending thousands of people to Milan, JFK, SFO, LAX. And Trump wanted to stop that immediately from all travel and he was against that because that would suggest that there was a lab origin in Wuhan.
13:25And he was convinced that the pangolin bat theory would exonerate him and cover his foot. This is all connected. It is. This is all connected because his his vanity prevented him from being able to tell the truth. Absolutely. About how covid got started or how we could best fight it. he would only recommend what would make him look good or look right irrespective of whether it was what was right for the country that's my takeaway and having read all of this now that it shows just that his vanity running amok and him protective of it at every turn i'm just going to give a couple more examples here.
14:10March 22nd of March of 2020. So 3-22-20 was the date. Cases continued to soar. 30 ,000 in the USA with 400 deaths. And here's what he writes. Press is going wild with me. Front page in Washington Post yesterday and op-ed by Maureen Dowd in New York Times today about me. Profiled by Peter Nichols on me in the Atlantic. He tracked the body count and his press clippings on the same pages. That's what his diary entries released by Rand Paul point out. The body count and his press clippings on the same pages. It's almost as if the worse it got, the more important he got. And he enjoyed that. You mentioned Dr.
15:00Birx, Deb Birx, I should say, at the at the White House. This is from April of 2020, the next month after the ones I just read after the presser, Deb Birx texted and then called me. This is obviously a White House presser involving Trump saying it was good that I wasn't there since after the presser, the president called her into the Oval and started yelling at her, saying you and Fauci have destroyed the country and the economy. I should never, ever have listened to you. You have completely destroyed us. He kept saying this over and over again and was yelling at her. I encouraged her that we are okay.
15:32And at the end of the day, she and I will be loved by the people we care about. She was relieved and after wrote me a text sincerely thanking me. He's not talking about Mrs. Fauci there, Victor. He's talking about Jake Tepper and Maureen Dow and the folks who write at the Atlantic and the lefties who are allegedly stopping him on the street to call him a hero and definitely not Jay Bhattacharya, Sunetra Gupta, who is at Oxford and Martin Kulldorff at Harvard, whom he refers to as the three stooges, a three, the three stooges one week prior to them coming out with the Great Barrington Declaration, which he clearly knew was on its way.
16:14So there he is at every turn. We will be loved by the people who matter to us. F the president, F the people. We need to manage the press and we need to manage lefties who clearly are on our side because they're stopping me on the street, calling me a hero. Yeah. And when there's a there's one exchange with about Scott Atlas where they were demonizing because all of those four people said that there was this ancient concept of herd immunity. They didn't say that it would stop the virus. They said that in conjunction with the initial vaccinations, it would lessen the epidemic, pandemic, and it did.
16:54And they said eventually that the various variants and mutations would be less toxic because people would have antibodies and not all antibodies just from the vaccinations, but from earlier infections. And then Fauci, and the thing he writes about Atlas, he said, I've talked to him. And then he has let it rip in quotations. He never said let it rip, Scott Atlas, but they had said Scott Atlas means just let it rip and get, you know, as if don't do anything and just let people die. And he has it in quotation marks. So even he knew it was a lie. And yet they were promulgating that and uh when they when you have to to call somebody in the white house and to try to get somebody fired because he disagrees with you and he was all those people were proven right and there was you know we have people at the hoover institution have studied the educational fallout and those two years that were missed people never caught up it's that was especially in grades second two through three and four there and think of all that i think the george floyd you know the riots and all that reaction that four months of looting and burning was all these people were i'm not excusing it but i'm saying that an amplifier of that was this lockdown everybody was cooped up they didn't get news they didn't talk to people they were terrified we have those clips of people and remember in Tim Walz's Minnesota where you had people trying to shoot rubber bullets at people on the porch and here in California they were stopped they were pouring sand and roller you know skate rinks outdoors it was crazy and all that came cutting down the nets on basketball courts outside it was all from these people that were convinced and you know when I went back when I was reading and looked at the fourth quarter economic news of the Trump economy It had just kicked in.
18:55Unemployment, GDP, inflation, everything was booming in the last quarter of 2019. And that all came to a stop. And then when we're reading about all of this multibillionaire fraud in Minnesota, Somalia, when you start to look at it very carefully, it was part of that pay protection plan and build back better. The$7 trillion. It's true. That's when it all started. And that's when we just lavished money. We inflated the economy. There was no productivity. Everybody was cooped up inside. They were getting stir crazy. It was really, in some ways, as bad as that. It was a bunch of big, fat Christmas presents to people who wanted to defraud the system.
19:39And they did. Here on this point about the schools, which is just so galling. I mean, the audience remembers we at this show, and many in conservative or independent media, fought the same to get those schools reopened and to call out the villains who refused. Chicago Teachers Union, among others. And listen to this. So David Zweig, who is an independent journalist, and he tweeted this out yesterday, reminding us that Fauci told the New York Times in 2023, show me a school that I shut down. Never, never, he said, I never did. Show me a school that I shut down. And in these diary entries released by Rand Paul in advance of a hearing that's happening on Wednesday, we will be all over it.
20:25Fauci recalls calling Bill de Blasio and convincing him to close New York City's schools. He writes, I spoke with Bill de Blasio, mayor, New York City, and convinced him, based on what I was saying publicly and my conversation tonight, to close the New York City schools. to close. And then he has the nerve in 2023 to the New York Times. Show me a school that I shut down. Never. I never did. If his lips are moving, he's lying, which Rand Paul knew from the start because he, too, is a medical doctor and he understood the snake oil salesman who was across from him time after time after time. So, Megan, you're a lawyer.
21:13I'm going to ask your question on Wednesday he comes in under oath and I understand he has a pardon for everything up to the date of the pardon but what happens under oath if Ron Paul ask him and says you said and you've testified that you never and you in your or your you've said in the past that you never shut down schools did you or did you not call uh the mayor of New York to shut down the And what if he says no? Is he subject then to prosecution for lying on? New lies, new lies, new lies would expose him. I would. Sure. But I think we may get a lot of Fifth Amendment or we may get him just admitting, you know, when when he when he lied or possibly just going with the I don't recall, because even admitting he lied, that's fine.
21:57Like he can do that with his pardon. He got this the greatest pardon you could possibly get under Joe Biden. and so I imagine he's going to be feeling footloose and fancy free and expecting all of his media buddies to cover for him. That's what I think because I remember when James Comey testified to the House Oversight Committee 245 times he said he couldn't remember he didn't know or it was outside of his expertise so that's what I think he's going to do and I think as bad as all of this is I still think that there will be people who will still canonize him and because it became... They have to.
22:37Because their interests and their reputations are perfectly aligned with his. He goes down, they go down. CNN, MS, all the network, PBS, NPR, they've all praised this person and they've demonized his critics. And I think they're so... And the Biden administration canonized it. Victor, watch this. Watch this. This was put together by Graibian. They do a good job of collating. But this is media praise of Fauci. Look at these examples.
23:32that we can trust in Dr. Anthony Fauci. The perfect person to answer our questions today. Joining us now, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Dr. Anthony Fauci, appreciate your candor. Dr. Fauci, appreciate the candor. We appreciate your service to this country. We appreciate your service. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. Greatly appreciate your service to America. Thank you for your 37 years of service, I believe, to seven presidents. And thank you for your work over the past year. The great news is you're sticking around in the Biden administration. We are so grateful to you, Dr. Fauci, for everything you do.
24:02Thank you so much for everything you do. Thank you very much for everything that you do. Thanks so much for the work that you do. Thank you very much for the reassurance. And as always, for all of your public service. Thank you, Dr. Fauci. Yeah, it's so gross. Let me give you just a couple more. OK, just a couple more from the notes. OK, Dana Bash, who is featured there of CNN in April of 2021 after his Fauci's heated exchange with Ohio Representative Jim Jordan. at a hearing Fauci wrote in his diary, Dana Bash sent me a text. And then he quotes the text. This is what a sad little pathetic man he is.
24:40Who writes down their texts that they've received from people who are on television just so they could keep a note of how many famous people texted them. Dana Bash sent me a text, quote, I just watched the whole Jordan thing. Again, you're a better man than I. Well, what do you mean? You're not a man. As our friend Wolf Blitzer said to me yesterday, no one would have blamed you if you said simply, Mr. Jordan, go F yourself. So this is Dana Bash, who's still interviewing him on her show as though she's an objective news person texting him this behind the scenes. Then there's Jake Tapper. He writes, had dinner over at Jake Tapper and Jen Tapper's home in D.C.
25:19Terrific couple. Friendship building. Again, so weird. When in your life, Victor? And you and I got to know each other. Were you running home, putting down in your diary? Was I friendship building? No, that normal people don't behave like that unless they're users. Right. Which clearly he was. Then Tapper, the most revealing aspect of these pages, writes the Rand Paul team, or how Fauci worked with compliant journalists to shape media narratives. On July 26, 2020, while watching the assistant secretary for health and a fellow member of the White House task force be interviewed on CNN State of the Union, Fauci writes that the assistant secretary for health was talking bullshit about testing with Jake pressing him.
26:01Quote, I gave Jake some questions to ask him. And then Tapper and he were making fun of Laura Ingram of Fox News. After my Laura Ingram hit, Jake Tapper texted me saying sarcastically, quote, hard to believe Laura Ingram went to Dartmouth, isn't it? All of us alumni are very proud. What the hell? He's this is a federal official whom he should be cross examining and pressing and cynical of and pessimistic about. That's what you get paid to do. Not chum chum. We Dartmouth alum can't stand Laura Ingram. All of it is so stomach turning. Yeah, I remember the interviews. The problem they had with Laura was that unlike the rest of them, she started uncovering who he was and then he would get angry.
26:45And then have you noticed that all of those all of those identifications of those networks were all left wing. So very quickly, he understood there were people at Fox, independent people as well, that were starting to question him in the media. And so at that point, he completely dropped all of the pretense, the veneer that he was disinterested, and he became a hardcore political. And then he began leaking about Trump, and they weaponized the entire thing. And I think we forget that Joe Biden picked that up in the 2020 campaign. That was a theme, a meme of that entire, that we follow the science.
27:29We follow the science. Dr. Fauci, we're going to keep him. We promised to keep him. And it was as if anybody who was for Trump or for these four scientists were somehow cracked. But Martin Kalender lost his job at Harvard. And as I said earlier, you walked across the Stanford campus with Scott Atlas and people that he'd known his whole life. I would be walking with him and they would turn the other way and walk in the opposite direction. You and I talked about it a few times while it was going on. You were horrified. We were horrified too. They did the same thing because Jay was also a Hoover fellow and they did the same thing to him.
28:08I had people, I won't mention names, colleagues that came up to me and said, that's enough. You've done enough. Don't write any more about this guy. And so what I'm saying is this guy, Fauci, created this whole false narrative that this was a pangolin bat accident and he was on top of it and he had the he was going to shut down the economy the schools and then somewhere along the line these people wouldn't shut up and they started making persuasive arguments and they started talking about i remember the you'll know him he was the science writer for the new york times they fired he was he's been there for 40 years and he wrote he wrote oh yeah because he because he repeated the n-word yes after someone said it to him yeah he was yes It was like someone said it and he was saying, well, this person said it.
29:03Could they, you know, should they be in trouble for saying it? He wasn't saying it like calling someone the N-word. No. He was repeating it because somebody, it came up like, should this person have suffered a consequence for saying it? And he said it in that context. And they fired him for that. Yeah. And he wrote a brilliant exegesis about the whole. Don McNeil. Yes. About the whole status of the debate. And it was very fair. and basically he said the dominant narrative is no longer can be supported by the evidence and then Fauci cooked up that fake Lancet investigation remember he had Peter Daszak and they picked like eight people 100 percent and they went all the way before you get to that before let me just set that up Victor let me just set that up okay because that's a huge piece of what's come out.
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29:45We knew this, but it's just evidence. Okay. Fauci knew in January of 2020, January, the COVID pandemic hit America, the mid middle of March, 2020. He knew in January that the quote market was not the source. It was the amplifier. He wrote in his diary on January 26th. Now we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier. So he knew that. Then we get to February 1st, 2020 and 12 scientists and he get together. Only two concluded this had a natural origin per Fauci's own notes. Quote, the rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible. deliberate insertion of the the the cleavage site basically the piece of the covid virus that made it more transmissible and more deadly to humans it was man inserted they could tell in the early versions of the of the virus they could tell all of these top virologists we reported this to our audience at the time again we were one of the first we went out with a very long Talking Points memo in January 14th, it was, of 2022.
31:07And we laid out exactly, exactly, today we have proof, I'm reading here from our Talking Points that day, that Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins have been willfully misleading the public on COVID's origins in an effort, it turns out, to protect China and themselves. House Republicans finally got their hands on emails between Fauci, Collins, and some of the world's top virologists discussing early on in the pandemic whether COVID came from a lab. It turns out the very officials who dismissed that as a fringe conspiracy theory in the press were being told exactly the opposite by the world's top experts as early as February 2020.
31:41They've known from the start. On February 1, 2020, Fauci and Collins had a teleconference about COVID's origins with 11 of the world's top virologists. Emails were exchanged the very next day that made clear several of those advising Fauci and Collins believe this virus came from a lab, not some bat or other animal from a wet market or a cave. And this talking points memo goes through how Fauci then rewarded several of the virologists who flipped from saying national origin to, sorry, from saying it looks like it came from a lab, just saying, oh, it must be natural origin, with grants from the NIH, multi-million dollar grants, for he was so, so super grateful that they had reversed.
32:28And this proves that he knew that himself a month earlier. Now we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier. And it only goes on from there. He knew, Victor, he knew all along and he knew it was Peter Daszak and EcoHealth Alliance. He was just shoring up his supporters to try to tell us a bunch of bullshit So he did not get tarred with causing the thing. He was being universally praised for fighting. That's the key. And if you talk to a lot of scientists, we published at Roger Kimball. I'm on the board of Encounter Books, but he published Stephen Quay's analysis of the COVID, which overwhelmingly showed that it was manufactured in the lab under the direction of People's Liberation Army.
33:21and whether it was accidental, nobody knows. But that was true. But essentially, if you put all the pieces together, Megan, you get this thing that it's just incredible that a U.S. official with a 50, I don't know how many billion, but he really inflated the role of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases to almost equal to any CDC or the National Institute of Health under his 40 years or how long he was there. But you get the impression that a U.S. official, when that was illegal to conduct that type of research, was very interested in Wuhan. Maybe he wanted the information from it for scientific, maybe for intelligence.
34:03Who knows what he was doing? But he allowed Peter Daszak to be a funnel of money and hide that source. But even more importantly, he green-lighted scientists in the United States that were cooperating via email with that lab. And they would not have been able to get instrumentation and all of that support if it hadn't been for him. And so that was the key to him, that he had to keep that narrative quiet. it, because if he did not, somebody was going to say, this is so staggering, that the police, who's going to police the police? This man is telling us all the ways to fight COVID, and yet he was at the center of its birth, in some sense, in a foreign country.
34:54And so then, how that developed, then he appointed that Lancet, he got all of his friends on the, he thought, well, you know what? The most respected journal is Lancet, and Peter's going to go head a team and go over to COVID. The Chinese wouldn't even meet with him unless they towed the line. They came out and said it was not from the lab, and even they destroyed the reputation of Lancet. Then they exposed them all, that it was all set up. And when it was all said and done, it was all weaponized, and that fed into the Biden administration, and that became a key campaign talking point. Donald Trump is a wacko.
35:32The people around him are amateurs. We are the science. I am the science. And you can't. Victor, we're still dealing with this. I've been making the point lately about people say, like, how how are all these people in America now so conspiratorial? Right. Like they have major conspiratorial instincts. This is how This this is exactly how they were lied to by government officials at the highest levels. I know over and over with a complicit media that amplified the lies and chat on anybody who called them out as lies, no matter whether they were Stanford and Harvard doctors or, you know, the who was it?
36:16turning point Barbie who we had on our show, not turning point. What was her name? Maga Barbie, who we had on our show, who got caught at the Capitol on January 6th. She was like a normal lady who all of her businesses got shut down. I remember. And she was just so distraught. But my point is simply they did it to us. They caused it. You know, it's very funny. And I had this conversation with somebody whom I won't mention, who called me up and said, you should be ashamed of yourself because you wrote on behalf of Scott Atlas and these other three. I did a lot. And I said, you know who these people are?
36:53Do you have any idea? They have authored hundreds, thousands of peer-reviewed articles. I said, you know that if you are in neuroradiologists, there's this huge tone. You can't even lift it. It's so big. It's called MRI and the Brain, edited, authored by Scott Atlas. It was the definitive work on how to use the MRI. And they were all experts. They had just as impressive, if not more impressive, credentials than Fauci. And they were rendered as cranks, nuts, amateurs. They had no right to do anything and when they start then finally trump started to consult with them and they started to get a public profile and that when you look at the fauci files that's when he went nuts and they organized a comprehensive effort to destroy them and i remember tom and alex berenson too alex berenson and tom cotton on x remember he wrote an op-ed saying this thing came from the lab and they went after tom yes they went after anybody and it was the media and they pressured the social media companies to censor people like baronson they did they do have their accounts shut down have to have them flagged as nuts youtube complied uh the old x which used to be twitter at that time complied person after person who raised questions about this got shut down because if fauci used all that media clout in order to bully people into doing this you mentioned peer review tom graby sorry uh tom elliott who's the founder of great who just put together that that soundbite we just played on his sub stack wrote about these Fauci files.
38:35He writes across 1141 pages by the nation's senior infectious disease official during the largest public health event in a century. Here's how often certain terms appear. Peer review. Not once. Not once. Meta analysis. Nothing. Risk benefit. No. Learning loss. No. Mental health. No. Never. One time mentions. N95. zero prevalence cost benefit twice cloth mask school closure natural immunity and then judge it against this award 80 hero 49 instagram 36 bobblehead 23 selfie 19 entries headed press 641, Victor. That's Fauci's diary. And I remember 2020, the whole subtext behind all the files was 2020 was an election year.
39:34And Trump had been very controversial, but finally people were starting to agree that the economy was really taking off. So then they shut it all down. And then anybody who objected was a partisan, they called them, and they were following the science and they systematically through 2020 basically blew up the deficit destroyed the economy destroyed the educational system and then they characterized that destruction as over the objections of the yahoos and then when joe biden uh was selected strangely when everybody dropped out and he was the nominee then it was that was his campaign thing i'm going to retain fauci he is the science.
40:20We're not going to let these people. And they were even lying about, you know, Joe Biden said no one was vaccinated. 17 million people were vaccinated before he even got in there. And then you remember when Pfizer was going to announce that the so-called elect, the mRNA vaccinations worked and they were going to do it before the election. And there was so much pressure to delay that announcement until after the election. They said, Well, the board was not there was no politics, but it was everything was politically driven in that cycle about covid. And he he was pulling the strings behind every public official.
40:58I mean, he it was all Fauci. He writes in here, Rochelle Walensky. Remember her over at the CDC? May 13th, 2021. Walensky calls to say she is changing the mask guidance for vaccinated Americans. Fauci, she will take my advice. I'm very pleased that she listened to me. Then he writes, the radical right wing maniacs who blame me for the rigidity of the CDC recommendations will probably not realize at all that it was me that triggered this change on vaccines. He writes in September of 2021, the CDC's independent vaccine advisory committee. Well, this is what was happening. Voted nine to six against the booster recommendations.
41:38The White House wants Fauci text Walensky and writes in his own words that he, quote, begged her to. override the vote. His entry, alas, Rochelle, listen to me. She overruled the recommendation of this independent advisory group. He congratulates her on finally showing, quote, clear leadership. So both masks and vaccines and boosters, he was pulling the strings. And finally, this, Victor, just a couple of examples of how more examples of how much he was loving the love. When I left the White House and crossed Pennsylvania and 17th Street, Several cars honked their horns and shouted, thank you out the window.
42:17This is so bizarre. Wait, let me read you a couple more. Pointing out that he got invited to go on Dancing with the Stars and was super thrilled that he received that invitation. Okay, great. Good for you. That's not tough to get. But then he kept the Washington Post column comparing a Rand Paul cross-examination of him to, quote, watching Albert Einstein being disputed by his dry cleaner. He then kept the Joan Baez portrait and her calling him an American hero. He kept the cookies from Joe and Jill Biden with the note, you are our hero. And Julia Roberts gasping on an Instagram live stream that he was her personal hero.
43:03There was every person who ever paid him a compliment is documented in here. And you know what? There was also a class element. It was all of these legacy media people who had these degrees they felt from impressive places and this sense of self. And he was right on one thing when Fauci said, I am the science. He was wrong about science, though. What he was really saying is, I am the official face of the establishment version of the science. And that was true. But I think he even said, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, I read it this morning in depth. But he said, I think he called Laura Ingraham or somebody wrote to him, Poria.
43:44Is that what they said? Poria for her Laura. and how did she ever get into Dartmouth? I mean, I think it's that one that he got from Tapper. Yeah, yes. But in that text, yeah, he did call her Pora Ingram. Yeah, like who let this person into our school? And Rand Paul is a dry cleaning person. What's wrong with a dry cleaning person? They're very important people. But he just drips this condensation. he's so condescending and he has contempt for people. And it was all part of that. Again, that picture that the yahoos had taken over Washington and he had his finger in the dike and he was protecting rational people in science the whole time he was lying and he was irrational.
44:33And all of science was absolutely antithetical to everything he was saying. And he was saying things that he knew were wrong because he was trying to protect his own culpability. and I don't know what's going to happen to him, but it makes, if you think about the number of people who died, it even makes the whole 51 experts who lied about the Hunter laptop and all that stuff look minor in comparison. And it was really terrible what he did. And the children, like the learning loss, it wasn't just New York where he got the schools closed. And we know that from his own admission. He, I mean, as I read to you moments ago, you know, I spoke with Bill de Blasio.
45:12I convinced him based on what I was saying publicly in my conversation night to close the New York City schools. I, I, I was there. I mean, we were, we were part of the school system when he did that. And my friend had her kids in those public schools for the duration. And when finally, after nearly 18 months, she attended an open the schools rally. She got called a white supremacist that and now she is more MAGA than anyone I know. She is a MAGA hat wearing Trump, you know, supporting, getting people to vote for Trump. And so is her whole family because of this stuff. But but to my point that I was trying to make, he writes, I had a similar call with Anne O 'Leary, the chief of staff for Governor Gavin Newsom of California and said, based on my TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor has decided to close the schools in California as well as the bars and restaurants.
46:10He wants credit for the learning loss that he inflicted on students in two of the biggest, greatest cities in the world, which went totally over the top with it. This is Jennifer Say, who now runs XXXY Athletics, lost her job as an executive at Levi's because she was one of those California moms who said, is this really necessary? This is going on too long. This is not good for the children. And Levi's, those villains, turned on her and basically pushed her out of her dream job just for that. Like the number of consequences, Victor, that happened to so many children, not to mention adults, because of this villain.
46:52And then the other villain, Joe Biden, who gave him with his magic wand a complete pass for it all. So on Wednesday, we'll be praying. We'll be hoping and praying that he says something new that's false for which he can be indicted, but he knows that's what's going to happen. So he's going to be super careful or he's going to forget everything or he's just going to say on the grounds of, you know, Fifth Amendment, I choose not to say anything if he thinks he's on quicksand and it will be left biting the heels of our hands again because he's a slippery snake of a man he is and the people but the thing that will save him is there's 50 or 60 marquee journalists that are invested in his lies because they put him on and on and on and they nodded their heads and they praised him like your clip showed and they they don't want him to fail they want him to be uh exonerated and they will write as soon as sure as the sun comes up the next day they will write how brave he was and how he spoke truth the power and and what a yokel ran paul or jim jordan whoever is you're right and that's how he operates he was a he have to give the reason he was so successful he turned an otherwise obscure agency into the most important medical uh department in the federal government and their statutory In statutory terms, it wasn't.
48:16But he did it because he was there so long and he knew how to play politics and ingratiate himself with the presidents. And he knew the stakes for him. He did. And he was stabbing Trump in the back all the time. And yet he did persuade Trump to do all these things. And then he was saying, we're developing this strange relationship. I'm working on it. But he was actually trashing Trump through all of his media people. and he was trying to get rid of anybody in the White House that was giving counter advice. And it worked. And he did a lot of damage. And it's just a cautionary tale that when somebody can't address the argument and can't address rational objections and then has to go back to titles and media and reputation, you know it's it's toxic and that's what he did and you know that the last thing they didn't even believe it you remember when all this was going on gavin was showing up at the french laundry with his with his lobby friends without mask he went down to la at a sporting event without a mask nancy pelosi was going to get her hair done supposedly to a store to a hairdresser it was shut down but she opened just up for nancy and we had even fauci i think he was at a baseball game He said you should wear a mask all the time and you can see and there's nobody around him and he has his mask off.
49:41They didn't even believe it. Nobody believed. Then he will never believe our public health officials again. I'm sorry. We just won't. After this, this is so devastating to faith in public officials. Never mind public health officials. We just won't. Like so many people accepted this, not unquestioningly, but ultimately accepted it because, you know, to some extent it was like you were forced to to live in New York City. Good luck going out to a restaurant if you didn't have your vaccine card with proof of all your vaccines and so on. I just think we are never going to accept the word of officials in public health again.
50:15And that's unfortunate because there actually could come a time when we need to. It is. And they really mischaracterized the opposition. Those scientists that you interviewed and Scott and others, they weren't saying that it wasn't a dangerous disease. they were saying you're wasting your resources with a scattershot approach you're going and trying to shut down the schools when the evidence the scientific proof shows that somebody five to 15 is likely to have a different immune response and can weather the virus without shutting down the entire schools and unfortunately you're taking away resources from people 65 and older that we need to concentrate who will die.
50:58But that didn't come across. They mischaracterized everything they said. They said, they just want herd immunity, let it rip, they want to kill everybody. And they didn't. They were saying, you're going to kill people by misallotting the resources that are finite to places where the demography is going to make it through, but the other demography is not. And we learned that in New York with Andrew Cuomo. And there was all of these older people died because we had the same policy across the board and then when they inject and they didn't care they didn't care about the harmed children at all unlike the great barrington doctors who wanted focused protection i gotta run for a second but we'll be back on the opposite side of this break bdh stays with us for the show we'll be right back high prices might be here to stay gas groceries insurance if you're a homeowner you may have thought should i refinance to pay off this credit card debt, which is so high, well, then you second-guess yourself because of that low mortgage rate you currently have.
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54:04this just in uh cnn's jake tapper to write a book highlighting all the lies told by anthony fauci during the covid pandemic pandemic it's going to be called original sin too and he he's going to argue how could he possibly have known he did he couldn't have known but now it's recently been brought to his attention that Fauci told a bunch of lies and he and the guy from Axios are going to be the ones to blow this story wide open. We look forward to that. Are you serious? I joke. I know I joke. Of course.
54:43But doesn't it feel like that's what's going to have to happen next? Something like that. The gaslighting will continue. We were just talking in the break with my team about how embarrassing this is. Like if I were Jake Tapper, I would be humiliated. One of the things that was in my packet, there was a note from, um, Stephanopoulos to, um, Fauci as documented by Fauci and his little diary where Stephanopoulos wrote, thank you, Tony. So impressive. And I didn't raise it because that actually is normal. I think just like when somebody comes on, you send him a nice note, you know, somebody from the government who doesn't, It was doing you a solid.
55:24He said something nice about how he did on the air. That's normal anchor stuff, to be honest. I'm not going to give Stephanopoulos a hard time for that. That shit with Jake Tapper, having him over apparently twice for dinner. And he's the most controversial person in America, at least one of them in the government. And you're schmoozing with him. You're ripping on other news anchors like this. You crossed a line, bro. You've crossed a line Like you've gotten too chummy with the subject of what's supposed to be objective reporting. And I think it'd be one thing if his reporting were super hard on Fauci and we're like, oh, he was able to do it anyway.
55:58But no, he wasn't. And none of them was. I mean, they all loved the guy. He was a superhero to them. And they were just mimicking that no one ever said we owe him all this things. He's a genius. He's he's the science. But they never said why. I remember right during the George Floyd, it was in Minnesota, there were tens of thousands of social health workers, nurses that went out and violated. You remember that? They violated the entire lockdown. They took off and they were out protesting on behalf of George Floyd. And then they said, we're doing this because the mental health crisis is worse than COVID.
56:38it. In other words, they were saying, we're already picking and choosing who's exempt from Fauci's lockdown. And it just destroyed all confidence of the American people. They said, you know, Gavin's not doing this and Nancy's not doing this. And now we've got people out in the street that's saying that they're actual health workers and they don't even believe it. They can pick and choose when to be social distancing or isolated. And it just blew up. And everybody said, this is a joke these people don't even know you know why victor you know you know why they saw him as such a hero because of fear because of safetyism mike roe does such a good job of calling this out you know i know the founder of the show dirty jobs and he spent his whole adult life with guys who are not afraid to to live life with a little risk whether you know it's an electrician who's up in the crane working on the lines above us all, like could get electrocuted at any minute.
57:35Or those construction guys who are dealing with heavy equipment in the middle of the road and very dangerous situations. These guys have courage and they have to exercise it literally every day just to earn a paycheck, which is the opposite of most journalists. I remember that. I had a two-year hiatus from Stanford University's Hoover. You couldn't go on campus at Stanford. If you went on campus, Megan, and they had your ping, then you were given a text message because you weren't supposed to even be to your office. I'm not talking about a public meeting. I'm saying you wanted to go on office to get a book.
58:08You were not allowed to go on campus. And then if you were caught with your ping, then you were given a text message that you had a certain amount of time to go to a kiosk and take a test immediately. And they were tracking you. Oh, my Lord. They were tracking you. And I remember being on the farm here and that it was kind of strange because all within a week, the washer and dryer went out and the oven went out and I got a catalog and here came these people from Home Depot. They were working class people. And I said, are you guys locked down? They said, no, we're, we go into everybody's house every single day.
58:47And I said, if we didn't have people like you, what would happen? So for all the lockdown, it was mostly the professional classes and the teachers and lawyers and courtroom and media. But there was the working class. They were still fixing pipes and wiring and delivering stuff to people. And they were risking, according to Fauci, they were interacting with the public. And so he said, on the one hand, we have to shut down everything. We have to social distance. asterisk but certain classes of people were going to exempt because without them it really told you who was important it surely wasn't professors like myself because nobody missed us and uh the teachers in k through 12 i think were missed but a lot of professors weren't a lot of people in the media weren't and a lot of lawyers were not missed but guys that were delivering and fixing The safetyism, it reminded me because, you know, we're going to talk about the rejiggered White House Correspondents Dinner, which just happened.
59:50Yeah. And President Trump showed up to his credit. You know, he he almost somebody was there to kill him at this White House Correspondents Dinner that tried to have that they tried to have a couple of months ago and they had to cancel it. And Trump said, we're coming back together. I don't care if it's the middle of July. We're coming back together because we're not letting this guy have this heckler's veto. but at the first one where the guy was shooting outside of the ballroom he he never got anywhere near the ballroom he was on a totally different level he would have had to take a massive escalator down to get anywhere near the ballroom and he didn't get close to that but i understand hearing shots fired someplace outside the ballroom would be disconcerting when you're anywhere near the president it.
1:00:28And just quick aside, there was a great story about a journalist who was with Trump at the America's 250th when he had the UFC event. I think it was Joe Rogan. Yeah, it was Joe Rogan. And Joe Rogan said something to Trump to the effect of like, aren't you worried about like getting assassinated or like a bomb going off or something, you know, at one of these events where you are because they want to kill you so badly. And Trump's basically said, you know, when it's your time, it's your time. And Joe Rogan took a big step away from Donald. Like, oh, my God, is that's just Trump. Like he's he has no safety ism.
1:01:07He has no fear really in any area of his life. But when you saw the press inside that event, Victor, which clearly was not the main target of that lunatic who was running through the magnetometers. Obviously, it was Trump or an official from the White House. All the press reporting on it later acted as though they were target number one. Basically, you know, the bullet flew past my nose. I barely made it to camera. You know, I mean, they played it up so much. I'm like, would you just stop? Everyone's fine. The guy's in custody. You were not almost killed. You're fine. President Trump's not talking about it this way.
1:01:49President Trump has already been on camera saying, let's go back in the room. Let's have the party still tonight. It's only Secret Service that stopped it. And so it's that same group of people that's calling Fauci a hero. We're so grateful to you. I know if they live in an echo chamber, they don't they don't lead real lives. They have no physical life at all. I mean, they don't know how to fix anything. They don't know how to relate to people of different classes. they're all confined to that uh new york washington corridor and they they have a exalted obviously if you see from fauci he has an i like the idea that we were all saying files now because it's redolent of the epstein file and i bet that really that really bothers him because that's not a very scientific fauci heard a lot more people than epstein did oh a lot more Amazingly.
1:02:40Millions, millions, millions, millions. And so this really, I don't know, it's hard to say with the whole cover up of Joe Biden's mental cognitive decline or the Hunter's laptop or the steel dossier. But finally, this one was different because so many people died. And it was not even that. You remember in these Fauci files that have come out, there were people from all over the world, from Israel and South America, that their health directors were calling Fauci and he was bragging that he was setting policy basically for the whole world that because he was at this and Ted Ross he mentions Ted Ross he's discredited guy at the WHO that was controlled by the Chinese and everybody was worldwide it wasn't just in the United States it was a global policy that he established and Europeans were calling him and there was no reason for that he had no it was should have been calling him to find out how to cause it yes that's clearly what he did there's never been any proof positive that his gain of function research led directly to this this virus but we all know that's what happened they don't have the the final piece of it because he wouldn't allow it he he was shutting down that investigation at every turn he never wanted it uh the the blanket lifted up that much because he knew i would argue strongly he knew what they would find so we never got it yeah i think but i let's move on.
1:04:05Let's keep going because I do want to talk a bit about what happened at the White House Correspondents Dinner on Friday night. So good for him. He goes back into the lion's den. He knows they all hate him, Victor. And among other things, he's getting a lot of crap, the president is, for the jokes he told about Caitlin Collins, who is never nice to the president. She's always nasty. She's always making negative commentary about him. Her questions always have the most negative bent you could possibly go into the questioning with. So the president did what our presidents do. He got up there and he gave her a little jazz, which is kind of what they do.
1:04:45But the press didn't like the way he did it. Sot for. I don't want to personally congratulate CNN's Caitlin Collins on receiving her award. It was all about me. It's a fake. She shouldn't get the award. it was a fake, but I didn't mind. I said, Caitlin, congratulations. But it was fake. There's no question about it. But she's a young, attractive woman. She never smiles. I said, Caitlin, do you ever smile? Smile. You have a nice position. You're at CNN fake news. You should be a happy person. So smile, Caitlin, just smile. But we attack. And I thought Caitlin had really made it big with a major new sponsorship.
1:05:28But then I informed her that it wasn't her on the Bud Light can. It was Dylan Mulvaney. Okay. Right. You're laughing. I'm laughing too. It's funny. It isn't. It's clever because it puts the left in such a difficult position, Victor, because they have to say that's not complimentary. so they have to rip on a trans person, which they definitely don't want to do. No, but on the other hand, it wasn't like Barack Obama after ordering 500 assassinations on the Afghan-Pakistan border with predators, and then three U.S. citizens, they probably deserved it, but they were killed, and there was no congressional authorization for any of that.
1:06:12Then he's at the White House dinner, Obama did, and he said, you know, when guys come near my daughters, I say to them, Predator, P-R-E-D-A-T-O. Remember that? And he was making fun of... We have a little bit of that. Here's just a small clip of that, Sat 12. The Jonas brothers are here. They're out there somewhere. Sasha and Malia are huge fans, but boys don't get any ideas. I have two words for you. Predator drones. You will never see it coming.
1:06:53Yeah, they're laughing it up. I love that one. Yeah, laughing it up. I mean, these were terrorists, supposedly, but that was a decision he made. Judge, jury, and executioner. If you were anywhere near it, we just took him out. And, you know, here we are arguing. I've been reading the media or her saying things like, well Trump may use a dual use target a bridge or a power plant in the next round I'm thinking well yeah that's what Obama did he went to Libya and bombed ports and facilities and Clinton bombed all the bridges on the Danube and but this whole this it's very asymmetrical their morality it's all transactional yes so they're also they're very unhappy and then today He doubled down on his attack against Caitlin Collins by posting a meme of her face on Dylan Mulvaney's body with those Bud Light cans.
1:07:51Only she's smiling here. So they're horrified by that, too. He's put them in a very difficult position because you basically have to say it's insulting to compare her to Dylan Mulvaney. Why is it insulting? Because Dylan Mulvaney's a man. And that's they just won't close that circle. But we all know why they find it insulting. And they're also upset because he's he referred to certain people as fat. It's kind of what Trump does. He's constantly making fun of, like he joked that next year, Chris Christie would be a part of a UFC fight against J.B. Pritzker in the, quote, heaviest of the heavyweights division.
1:08:30They would be fighting for a big piece of cheesecake, he said. And he also said he was told to stop calling Pritzker fat, but he can't help it. So they did not laugh, Victor. They did not think that was funny. I know. You know, they didn't seem to have much of a problem when it was Wanda Sykes up there making inappropriate jokes about hoping Rush Limbaugh would die, which Obama thought was funny. Here's 11. This is from 2009. Rush Limbaugh. I hope the country fails. I hope his kidneys fail. How about that?
1:09:09Obama's also awesome. He needs a good water board, and that's what he needs. So which is more offensive? Do you think it's funny that someone has hoped that Rush Limbaugh's kidneys fail and that he dies, or that the president says these two guys are overweight and should battle for a piece of cheesecake? Yeah, I mean, here's a president that had three assassination attempts in which the Secret Service returned fire at the purported shooter. And Robert De Niro says, I think he's on three times now on record of saying he wants to hit the president in the face. Madonna said she wanted to blow up the White House.
1:09:50Kathy Griffin basically wanted him beheaded. that Shakespeare in the Park, as I remember, made Caesar, Shakespeare's Caesar as Trump being stabbed by all of the conspirators. And then we had Snoop Dogg shooting him. I think the celebrity chef, Berdine, said he would like to poison him. So that's okay. But they threatened to kill the president, our top celebrities, and no one said a word. and then that was in a climate that later you know if if you were a leftist you would say you people lower the bar of the acceptable about killing the president and therefore that you brought out all the nuts and you could say it about all the left chuck schumer said you gorsuch kavanaugh you sowed the wind you're going to reap the whirlwind you don't know what's going to hit you and then you know a year and a half later two years an assassin shows up at gorsuch's home but they never it's all one way and i think that's what that drives trump crazy and he uses the word fake news and he gets angry and then they say he's not professional but they're very sober and judicious and they do really terrible things and they think that the i guess it's the method and the methodology is more important to them than the message so if you can say you want to kill trump but you have a title and you're sober and you do it in a very professional manner then it's okay but if it's never the content it's the manner and who you are and how you do it trump doesn't care but think about this there where's their outrage about anthony fauci lying to them for for months and years about anthony fauci leading to all those deaths about anthony fauci literally resulting in the abuse the serial abuse of children who weren't allowed to go to school or learn or play basketball or you know etc get fat who were getting fat because they weren't allowed to exercise, which is very bad for kids.
1:11:41Where's their outrage about that as opposed to dumb fat jokes at the White House Correspondents Dinner? What what here's what we saw. CNN had like a little running ticker on the side of its presidential feed with their little comments. And here's Brian Stelter. I'm sure a few for it's hard to read. I'm sure a few of his jabs will travel well on social media, but the fat jokes in quotations just seemed sad. Then you get MS Now. Trump made a mockery out of the White House Correspondents Association. Washington Post. Trump's insult-laden speech to press dinner draws mostly stunned silence. The Washington Post tweeted out, he told a sex joke and several fat jokes.
1:12:31He called Senator Adam Schiff, watermelon head. Who cares? What is that? He went on long tangents. President Trump's speech at the White House Correspondents Dinner swerved between jokes that fell flat and flat out insults. Well, yeah. I mean, of course they fell flat in front of this crowd, which is probably why Trump won't do it again, because they are not in good humor about themselves. That's the last group of things that they could laugh about. No, they only laugh when somebody that they despise is on the other end of the receiving end. But the funny thing about it is they make jokes all the time about Trump's weight.
1:13:10They always say that he's an 80 year octogenarian, near octogenarian, and he eats Big Macs and he's overweight and they have all their cartoons. And his skin color and his hair. His hair, everything about him. They all show that he's a wreck. And I can remember that bandy leaves that he was crazy and he needed to have intervention and and we remember that andrew mccabe and ron rosenstein were going to tape him because they found out they said they could prove he was mentally ill they talked about doing that that was the whole idea that he was out of shape that he was going to die any day they they have just just the other day i saw some media a person said he wears diapers, he smells, he's too heavy.
1:13:53They do that all the time. And they don't do it just on an occasion. They do it as part of the normal news reporting or interviewing. And so I don't think the only good thing about it is I think we're at peak media turnoff. And I think most people are fatigued by them now. They just think, you know what, we don't care what you say about trump maybe some of it's true maybe some of it's not maybe he screwed here and there but we don't care anymore because you're totally discredited listen to you anymore we don't listen to you so don lemon was on the receiving end of the most gentle trump barb ever like he passingly called him low iq that's okay but what that's a day ending and why for trump if he doesn't like you or if he's pissed off at you like lemon felt the need to respond vdh and i want to i feel the need to give a viewer warning here.
1:14:45He responded from his bed wearing no clothes. So let's see. Let's check in, because, of course, God forbid he not use the moment to make it about himself and paint himself as though he were the star of Trump's remarks. Here it is. So it's Friday night. I'm in bed. I'm trying to chill. And then my phone starts blowing. We're all here. We're all hanging out, like going to bed, having a quiet Friday night. and my phone starts blowing up. People are saying, some old man is on television, feeble old man ranting about you. Well, it turns out it's Donald Trump. That's who it is. Donald Trump talking about me at the White House Correspondence Center.
1:15:25Donald Trump, I'm not even in the room. Why are you talking about me instead of making things better for the average American? Why aren't you doing that? Why aren't you trying to get us out of a war that you started? Why aren't you trying to get us out of these high gas prices? Like, do something to help people instead of like ranting about me. Why are you so obsessed with me? No wonder people ask me like, if you're going to run for president, because I'd certainly be a better one than you. I wouldn't be obsessed with you. He's obsessed with himself. He's so silly. He starts saying that Trump is obsessed, obsessed with him.
1:16:02And then he starts talking about himself, that he's going to run for president. He would be a better president. And then suddenly the whole thing's about him as it always is. so yeah that's who he's obsessed with like why are you so obsessed with me oh my god like that's his go-to perceived clever remark whenever anybody talks about him i mean like trump that's what he does he gives it back to journalists who give it to him yeah that's he does one of his signatures and they can't stand it he doesn't understand when you get in the ring with donald trump if you look at the graveyard of major media people at ms ms ms what was msnbc and cnn he trump has done something to them that they destroyed their careers and they're you know what i mean there's a whole there's a whole graveyard of people in pollock the never trump people that were very columnist uh major conservative and liberal op-ed writers that were so obsessed i'm talking about New York Times, Washington Post, they've all destroyed themselves.
1:17:03And they don't understand. Look at all these people who were very prominent. John Bolton, gosh, everybody quoted him. And yet he was so obsessed he had to write a memoir and time it to the 2020 election so it would destroy Trump, even though he was warned by a federal judge that your book is going to come out, but you're going to face consequences sometimes because you violated confidentiality laws. And it was Joe Biden's DOJ that began that investigation, even though the media was like, oh, Trump, this is part of his retribution campaign. It's like Joe Biden started it and Bolton pled guilty.
1:17:41So I'd love to hear your acknowledgement that this wasn't Trump's lawfare. Yeah. And all Bolton had to do was saying, you know, I always wanted to be in government and no one would ever confirm me. and even when I was UN ambassador under Bush, it was a recess appointment and Trump gave me the opportunity of a lifetime to be national security advisor. And I took that to almost immediately craft a strategy to make him look stupid and then time it to make a lot of money on a bestseller. And he single-handedly destroyed his own career. Comey destroyed his own career. Robert Mueller destroyed his reputation.
1:18:20Andrew McCabe destroyed his reputation. Mark Milley destroyed his reputation. Some of the most illustrious generals destroyed their reputations because they were just so obsessive. Bill Kristol used to be on everybody's TV show. He just endorsed Mondami. He said he would have voted for him. So I don't know what it is about Trump, but there's something about him that people get so obsessed. I don't know if it's his appearance or his behavior or his accent, but they become obsessed with him. Don Lemon basically destroyed his own career. Brian Seltzer destroyed his career. All these people did because that's all they talked about nonstop.
1:19:08and they don't they never have any self-awareness self-reflection of what they what they became the whole oh he just got so excited to hear like his name mentioned in any public setting like i'm relevant i'm relevant and then thought people would admire him with his shirt off well they don't know and they think if you hate trump then all of a sudden you're in and you're that's acceptable and everybody's going to like you but there's you know there's only one trump but he can't go around that much there's so many people are using him to say that he hates me he hates me i'm a victim rally to my cause and it's just they and they say crazy robert de niro was an acclaimed actor actor and he became so obsessed with donald he can't finish the sentence without talking about physically hitting him it's really embarrassing okay now i want to i want to stay on this, you know, what's happening to these journalists slash men of the left.
1:20:07It's the same group, obviously. I don't watch sports and I don't really cover a lot of sports in this show unless it becomes news, but this guy has become news. And now his name is Ryan Clark. And up until very recently, he worked for ESPN, Victor, and he was super, super confident when he wanted to rip on anything relating to MAGA, Trump, or Republican politics, including Charlie Kirk. Listen here. First off, it's the second most ridiculous thing he said this week. The first was standing on campus and saying he wanted to put a statue up of somebody that doesn't represent the people of Louisiana, doesn't represent the players and the students at LSU, doesn't represent the executives that work there.
1:20:56That was the first dumb thing he said this week. This is the second dumbest. He's ripping there on the Louisiana governor for wanting a Charlie Kirk statue at the university, which clearly he objected to. So super bold and he's got a strong opinions. OK, great. Don't be afraid to express them. And then ESPN fired him this week or last week in the round of making some layoffs, I guess. And it didn't go very well. He didn't handle it very well. Here's how that sounded. When I go home and this kid, you know,
1:21:36from the West Bank is like so accepted in New Orleans now. Like I wouldn't change that, you know, never. You know, like, all I ever wanted to do was be accepted. You know, and want it. I'm like, I'm sorry. It's just beneath the dignity, right, to go out there. All I ever wanted was to be accepted. What are you talking about? It's a layoffs. Like, companies do it. It's unpleasant for everyone. It doesn't mean anything about you personally. Obviously, you weren't one of their top stars. They would have kept you. So he's not wrong there. but but just one more for you victor jason whitlock found this this guy full of was this false hubris or what because this is how he talked about himself uh separate and apart from this listen here he said i don't know about everybody else i don't know about every other show i don't know what they're gonna take you off i don't know what they're gonna put you on i don't know about that but you'll be on monday night countdown you'll work at halftime you're gonna finish every night with scott because you're the best we have and i remember walking back to the trailer like skipping you know what i'm saying because i was so down and i was hiding it because i was like man they're gonna like they don't try to get me over this like do they even and i just remember walking back and being like he's right i am actually the best you know i've heard him a couple times he's not the best yeah you go and he's obsessed with race that's why he was fired i think because almost every single uh episode where he starts off script he starts talking about race and racial this and racial that and racial that.
1:23:42And he misread his audience. People in the country have that fatigue. They want to go beyond it. They don't think race is essential to your persona anymore. They've been through the George Floyd. They've been through the last six years. They understand all of these different issues. But one thing they agree on is the country won't make it if we have these demagogues that keep trying to essentialize race, race, race, focus, and use it and leverage it for their own career. And they're tired of it. So there was no audience for what he was saying. In fact, he was bleeding in the audience. And he didn't understand that.
1:24:17And he thought it was still 2020. And everybody was giving DEI repertory benefits to people based on their skin color. And that's not. We transcended that. I think people are really fatigued out of that issue as well. well except for nancy armor over at usa today yeah well that's an exception it it's incredible right this audience knows we've been talking about this nutcase for years on this show because she's so pro trans athletes running in women's track and field and playing in girl sports she i mean she's never seen the trans athlete she wants to ban from the the girl sport no matter how much danger it puts the girls in.
1:25:00And now she writes this insane, insane piece about Caitlin Clark, how she has to stop, quote, flopping where you overact in response to an alleged injury in order to get a foul because of Emmett Till. Literally, that's what she wrote, because how many years ago, 60 years ago, Emmett Till was lynched. And as a result of that by white racist in Mississippi. And as a result of that, Caitlin Clark should not flop because the WNBA is mostly black women and she's creating that same risk for them. I mean, literally this woman wrote this in the USA Today newspaper. And it was so crazy that there was kind of universal backlash against USA Today.
1:25:46Like you've lost your minds. So then she posted this to her ex account, Victor. In my recent column, I made an inartful comparison with the murder of Emmett Till, the murder of Emmett Till. I intended to connect the issues the WNBA is currently facing with its all-star game being hosted in Till's hometown of Chicago. I obviously did not provide enough context for that. See, that was the problem. She needed more context in order for us not to be offended. However, this point stands. There is a history in this country of perceived threats to white women being weaponized against African-Americans and the danger that poses to black players in the league.
1:26:30Players have been abused online and have reported receiving death threats that has to be taken more seriously. I sincerely regret that my lack of appropriate context is overshadowing that important conversation and the action that needs to be taken by the WNBA to address it directly for the benefit of all players. And now USA Today has updated its original piece by her. The paragraph used to end. There should also be an expectation on Clark to recognize the wider consequences of her actions. Their big change in USA Today was to change it to there should also be an expectation on Clark to recognize the broader implications of her actions being weaponized.
1:27:13So they basically made no changes, but they've had her flog herself on X in response to the outrage because this woman's a lunatic. She's standing by her point. Yes, she's she also thinks it's 2020. You know, in all crime, I think only seven percent of violent crime is interracial. So it's not the norm. But in interracial crimes going from battery to assault to murder, it's about six to one and even greater in some cases, black on white and white on black. So when she says, you know, there's this fear, but that doesn't resonate with reality. For whatever reason, if you are a white person and there's a rare instance of a crime and you're a black person, it's statistically proven you're much more likely to be a white victim than a white assaulter.
1:28:04That's just a fact. So when she says this, it doesn't make sense. And then people see with their own eyes what's going on in the Women's National Basketball Association. And they can see that people are trying to not just foul her, but flagrantly try to hurt her again and again and again. And then you read the commentary by left-wing people, and it turns everything around from this kind of, she's kind of, I understand that there was much less, much more racism with Jackie Robinson. But what made him famous was he was a minority who got a lot of attention because of his skills and everybody, and there were people that tried to hurt him.
1:28:46And the same thing is true of her. She's not just a white player. She's probably the best player in the entire association's history or the best potential. And there's people who regret that because she is bringing money and attention, not because she's white alone and the oddball in that league, but because she's so talented. And that is considered a black domain culturally. And so there's all this animosity to her that boils over in physical violence. And everybody knows it. And so all these white liberal people try to contextualize it and excuse it. And they don't understand that at some point it's going to reach a crescendo if they don't stop it.
1:29:31Somebody is going to permanently injure her because that's the point. And it's truly it's blaming the victim. It is. It is. It's right. And Caitlin Clark, if anything, she plays a lot of this stuff down. She does. It's her teammates who will stand up in defense of her. And what she's saying is anytime she stands up for herself or if she is flopping, virtually everybody in the league does it. And in the NBA, too, they do it. She's not allowed to. She's not allowed because of her skin color. Yeah. And everybody knows that the dynamic behind it is that was a little watched league and it was broke and it was an appendage and adjacent to the national basketball.
1:30:13that was subsidized. Everybody who owned a franchise was losing money. So she came in as the best player in college basketball and was phenomenal. She happened to be white in a black dominated league. And sure enough, she got media attention and she brought fans. But the bottom line is she made all of this money. So she enriched all of their contracts, their travel arrangements. It was all in the good of the league. And yet they couldn't see that. So they would rather have her out and be poor than have her in they would than to be well off and that's what the whole that's the whole that's the whole calculus of the whole anger everybody knows that so this stupid sports writer can't see the truth and she writes this and the readership says what a liar we know what's going on and they're so done with that anyway they're tired of self-performance art, white, left-wing people who are trying to get virtue signal points by adopting positions that don't jive with reality, just to have this self-satisfaction that I'm more virtuous than you are, because I can write about Emmett Till and make some preposterous connection to show how racially advanced or liberated I am.
1:31:33When most people just you know it's live and let live we don't we don't treat anybody any different by their skin color we all are in the same boat together let's make it incidental to who we are because it won't work we don't want to end up like brazil or india or indonesia democracies where everybody has a cast or skin color and they're each other's throats and that's the future when you have op-ed writers like that if they get their way or ryan clark so i think the fact that these people are being fired or discredited is a sign that, again, just like with the mainstream media, we understand now, I think finally after the four, five, six years, seven years, six years after George Floyd, that if you go down, keep going down that trajectory, you're not going to have a country.
1:32:18It's going to be something like a third world, multiracial, chauvinistic caste system democracy. And it's not, it won't work. And I think everybody knows it and they're sick of it. only the most politically active amongst us white or black are the ones pushing those weird narratives and lines normal people of all races are rolling their eyes like what are you what why are we talking why are we comparing the wmba and flopping to what happened to emmett till i mean a lot of the people who were offended were black americans who remember that story very well and don't want to see it used by some woke white middle-aged woman who's trying to make herself feel better about her white skin when she goes to bed at night.
1:33:03They know exactly what Nancy Armour is doing. And to bring up one of the country's darkest, most evil episodes so casually and inject it into women's basketball is disgusting and really diminishing. And I think they got a fair amount of blowback, which is why they did the lame little edit and made her tweet something quite clearly. But Nancy Armour should be fired. She should have been fired long ago for her trans mania, but this should really be the last straw. This woman shouldn't be anywhere near USA today. The fact that they allow her to remain tells us what we need to know about them. All right, we are going to take a quick break.
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1:38:37Crazy. Welcome back to the MK Show. VDH is back with me. I love Shannon Bream. That was Shannon interviewing the the head of the Democrat Socialists for America, Victor, and she's a co-chair. And there she is, you know, laying it on the line. Her name is Megan Romer. She was elected as one of their inaugural member elected chairs after their 2023 convention. She calls herself a socialist with Presbyterian characteristics. I'm not sure what that means. grew up very poor in a trailer park, she says, in rural upstate New York. She said in her 30s, she followed politics through Jon Stewart's The Daily Show, explains a lot, was once an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter, did a brief stint in community college, and now she's running this group.
1:39:25And there it is, just in case people think we're all making up this crazy platform the DSA stands for. We're not. She owned it all. And yet they're winning in places like New York and possibly beyond. We'll see what happens in Michigan. Yeah, I saw the registration numbers. It's 85 % white. And I think Nate Silver pointed out 65 % of them have degrees. And so far, I mean, they may. They have degrees, but they don't earn that much. That was the thing that Nate Silver was pointing out. Like you're overeducated and yet you haven't landed some big paying job. So you're bitter. And he came up with that kind of damning adjective, downwardly mobile.
1:40:08And that's what they are. And so they go in Denver and L.A. and San Francisco and Washington and New York. They rub shoulders with all these wealthy people in law, media, medicine, especially finance, insurance, investment. And they're just as glib. And yet they can't buy an Upper West Side apartment or they can't buy a place in Boulder, a Victorian or something. And they blame the whole system for it. It's a top-down phenomenon. It's not, you know, I live in one of the poorest counties in California, which is one of the poorest in the nation. The nexus between Kings, Delaria, and Fresno County.
1:40:47And I can tell you, I don't see any of it here from working people. and on the farm when people come on, electricians, plumbers, tractor drivers, I talk to them every day. Nobody talks as social. They talk about gas or they want to get a new business or they want to get a new job or who's paying what, where. But this is a top-down phenomenon. You can look at the profile of these people. Mondami was a very privileged kid. He grew up with this child of two professors. He keeps calling Israel settler colonialists, but my gosh, the Indian community in Uganda was 1%, and it was put there by the British Empire, and it controls 65 % of the GDP of Uganda.
1:41:29And then he says nicer, whiter neighborhoods, but actually he should say nicer Indian American, because they're the richest ethnic minority in the United States by per capita income. Hassan Piker, he has a Mao suit on. When he gave that lecture, 70 million people mal-killed. This guy drives a Porsche. He bought almost a$3 million house in West Hollywood. His parents are immigrants. They're very wealthy. The same thing is true of Graham Plattner. Ro Khanna now out here in California has become a veritable socialist. He's talking about all these taxes. His in-laws are worth$200 million. His kids have a golf course in their name.
1:42:11His wife drives a$200 ,000 Range Rover. It's a top-down, frustrated elite, just like the French Revolution, just like the revolutions of 1848, just like the Bolsheviks, top-down. It doesn't mean it won't succeed, but so far, they try to create momentum that's not there. Because we'll see if Tallarico and Said and whoever is in Maine wins, and that would show you that they have support in mostly blue states. Yes. Except for Texas. Trump is calling him Tala Freako now. I want to show you what Tim Dillon had to say about the DSA over the weekend. He's always worth a listen. Sat 18 here. 1B, 1B. And the DSA is made up of Muslims and trans people and white kids from Bushwick or whatever.
1:42:59So it's an interesting alliance of people. I don't know how it will work. And I don't know how that all works. But that is what's going on right now in our country. That is where the excitement is. The excitement is with young Muslim people and young trans people and very skinny white guys from the Midwest. And those people are a real insurgency and the Democratic Party's old and boring and bloated and corrupt. He's right about that. And it's also, as I said, first and second generation well-off immigrants. Chevalier and Mondami. She's a nutcase. Yeah, they all are. And the woman, Kiros, that came from Ethiopia, she said that reparations, they arrive in this country from these failed socialists.
1:43:59These failed, horrible places. and then they put their finger in the air and they think, wow, where is the advantages in this new U.S.? A DEI, fellowships, victim class, media attention, or being a conservative, you know, electricianer. I want to go left wing. And then they start trashing this generous host that accepted them. And they start romanticizing the world that they abandoned that's a mess. Yeah, they want to bring those values here. Yeah. I just want to make one point quickly. We'll expand on it tomorrow because we didn't really get to it, but we teased you at the top of the show. The DNC is in a lot of trouble, too.
1:44:37There's a deep dive in The New York Times about how they're in debt, real debt. They are two million bucks in debt. The RNC has 128 million cash on hand. So this has a lot of Democrats worried and frustrated. And the head of this group, Ken Martin, is the chairman of the DNC, now coming under similar allegations to ones we saw against Troy Jackson, who's now the Democrat nominee to run against Susan Collins in Maine, accused in early July of throwing his phone at the desk of a junior aide while upbraiding the person. The incident resulted in a formal complaint to the DNC's Human Resources Department.
1:45:15No one witnessed the encounter, and there was some dispute over how aggressively the phone was tossed. But I'm guessing if you're disputing how aggressively the phone was tossed about instead of whether it was, Victor, it's not a winning day for the new chairman of the DNC. No, he's become a veritable cat. Is her name Katie Porter here in California that did the same thing? No, this one's close. Ken Martin. It's great to see you, my friend. You're looking well. Stay well. And we hope to talk to you again very soon. Thank you for having me. Tomorrow, it's shocking news on Brian Kohlberger. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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Megyn Kelly is joined by Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and author of "The Counterrevolution," to discuss shocking new details released in Dr. Fauci's "diary," the dangerous hubris exposed in the document, his lies and narcissism on display throughout his notes to himself, new revelations from Dr. Fauci's diary about his relationships with prominent journalists, his public image unraveling as more information comes to light, Dr. Fauci used the media to cover his own complicity in the pandemic, Fauci's lasting damage to America, President Trump's appearance at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the absurd backlash to some of his jokes, the media's double standard on humor from political figures, Ryan Clark crying on-air after his ESPN firing, his past comment trashing Charlie Kirk, why attacks on Caitlin Clark are increasingly backfiring, the change in culture from 2020 to 2026, one of the Democratic Socialists of America's leaders admitting the radical changes they want to enact, the random assortment of leftists that make up DSA, and more.
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