Hong's SHOCK Loss in Wisconsin, Minnesota in Play with Tafoya, and WNBA Coach WHINES, with Emily Jashinsky | Ep. 1378

22:38It's like Amy Klobuchar is the sitting Democratic senator who's now trying to become the governor because Tim Walsh said he won't run for a third term because of all the Somali fraud scandal. Okay, it's so confusing. But so he's not going to be governor anymore. So now Klobuchar views this as a as a promotion because she would be an executive, the chief executive of the state as opposed to just one of two U.S. senators and vying for the seat of U.S. senator will be the lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan versus Michelle Tafoya, former sports broadcaster who came on this show right after she left the sidelines.

23:19And I said to her then and there, I certainly hope you're going to be running for office because she's just a badass. She's smart. She's serious. She's sober. And she's a household name and especially in Minnesota. So she's gotten the Republican nomination and she's going to be squaring off against another nutcase. Peggy Flanagan is seriously bizarre. She would want me to tell you she's indigenous. And this is Peggy Flanagan in March of 2023 in a soundbite. Our viewers may remember about trans and children sought eight.

23:59Emily Jashinsky:Because let's be clear, this is life affirming and life saving health care. When our children tell us who they are, it is our job as grownups to listen and to believe them.

24:24Emily Jashinsky:That's what it means to be a good parent. oh my god i mean it's truly radical stuff while she's wearing that protect trans children t-shirt with a knife like a cutting knife a blade weapon on it okay peggy what are you trying to say i mean she like this this is actually very interesting given how aoc who was being asked to defend francesco hong made her comment about how woke one was crazy this is the type of thing that if AOC really believes, quote, woke one was crazy, they would be against, right? If that's the reason they didn't want to endorse Francesca Hong, Peggy Flanagan has leaned so hard into cultural left politics.

25:05Emily Jashinsky:Remember, because it was talked about with Tim Walls, they were turning Minnesota into a sanctuary state for trans kids, which is actually a really sinister plan and a really sinister policy. And so they were leaning, I mean, this was something that they saw as in Minnesota. Part of, actually, it's interesting because this is what Francesca Hong was also kind of trying to prove, that you can be cultural left and populist left, and both will kind of lift you at the same time, that you don't have to ditch cultural leftism to be successful as a kind of, in Minnesota, it's DFL, but as a populist Democrat.

25:40Emily Jashinsky:And I mean, Michelle Tafoya is going to put that to the test. It's structurally so hard for a Republican to win in Minnesota. The time is more ripe than it has been in a long time in Minnesota for a Republican to win. She's obviously, we had her on after party right after she announced. And she's obviously a good candidate because she's not hardcore in a way that'll turn off some of the like independent swing mom types in the Minneapolis suburbs who might be looking at Peggy Flanagan in the dagger shirt and thinking, hell no, I can't get behind this woman. I'm not voting for that. Like it's going to be a real problem for them.

26:16Emily Jashinsky:Also, the Dem primary was over abolish ICE. Like that's what the Dem primary was basically coming down to. It was about literally it was about Angie Craig supporting the Lakin Riley Act. That's how she was distancing herself from her moderate opponent. So in the general election, swing voters are really going to be up for grabs for Michelle Tafoya. I think so, too. And they they underestimate her at their own peril because she's extremely likable. She is a lifelong Minnesotan. She understands how they think and what their values are. And she she has been making the pitch like I get it. This state has swung too far to the radical left.

26:55And I I am not a Trump sycophant. She was out there. She didn't. She kind of kept Trump at a distance. She didn't get the endorsement, I think, by design, you know, intentionally and has said to the Minnesota voters, I'll stand up to Trump, which, you know, Trump's core faithful may not like, but you have to understand she's got to play the long game here. Like the Minnesota voters are not going to put somebody in office who's just a Trump rubber stamp. You got to have somebody like Michelle Tafoya, who's like, I will be fiercely independent looking out for you. That's the kind of Republican that could win in Minnesota.

27:26So it would be genuinely exciting if she were to win. I'm very much rooting for Michelle and really hope they do the right thing there. Okay. So that's, I mean, overall, that's how things went last night at the DSA is nutty. They continue to demonstrate their nuttiness. The new tactic is to tie El Sayed and everybody else to Hassan Piker, who's the most radical, outspoken leftist in America. I think it's fair to say at least one with a with a platform. He's a true crazy loon, like the stuff he's saying about how America deserved 9-11. And he wipes his ass with the Constitution. I mean, we could be here all day, but we are starting as Republicans to play the games that the Democrats play.

28:07Like, do you disavow? Disavow. Do it. Disavow. And so far, like El Sayed, who campaigned with Hassan Piker, is saying, I'm not I'm not doing that. Like, thanks. But no. But the heat is getting turned up so high around this Hassan Piker. It's kind of interesting to me to see whether he'll be able to hold that line all the way up to Election Day, because I don't know anything about Hassan Piker. I've got to be honest. I know he's Cenk Weger's nephew. I know he says very crazy shit. I know he kicked his dog on a live feed or allegedly buzzed the zapping him. Yeah, he totally buzzed the dog. I did watch that.

28:42I completely believe he was shocking his dog and just seems like a very unwell person to me. I've got to be honest, but whatever. I what do I know? But it is it. I also don't love the game of like disavow. It's just it's there's it's a turnoff to me when either side does it.

29:02Emily Jashinsky:You know who also hates that? I think increasingly as voters, they want to hear what you are going to do in office. They are not interested in this. And I get why politicians are tempted to do it and campaigns are tempted to do it. But institutional trust is at record lows basically across the board in this country. And so if you are acting like a gatekeeper, you are reminding people that they don't trust the gatekeepers. And so actually, I think it's a big turnoff for voters. I think it's now a major political mistake. I was at the walking around the convention center at the 2024 Dem convention, and the young Dems flocking to Piker was crazy.

29:42Emily Jashinsky:It was Justin Bieber at the convention, even as they were nominating Kamala Harris, someone who was like much more moderate and has been criticized really sharply by Hasan Piker. That was years ago before he was as popular as he is right now. So the disavowal thing, I think just it reeks of being like a politician as usual and a gatekeeper. And that's lame to people. It's leftist behavior. It's lame to people. It's Francesca Hong behavior. It is. It's like, okay, if Hasan Piker runs for office, He's going to get it both barrels. You know, we're we'll go after him. We'll play every single soundbite.

30:19But like, I don't know, like Cenk Uyghur was defending the association and whatever. I don't I don't know if I'm phrasing it right, but he was on Piers Morgan the other day saying, well, why don't you ask some of these candidates why they associate with Benjamin Netanyahu, who, you know, millions of people believe has committed a genocide? Why don't you ask that question? Why is it just this guy's incendiary comments from his microphone that are relevant? Like you really could play this game forever, which is why I'm not interested. If Hassan Piker runs for office, he's in trouble. And as a politician, people want to know what you think, right?

30:55Emily Jashinsky:Like, do you think that America deserved 9-11? If they haven't said that they think that or given anybody an indication to think that, this kid's a Twitch streamer who's like entertaining people for clicks. So if you have no reason to believe that they think that, the game is convoluted and hard for voters to follow. Especially if you're an older politician and you're looking to get younger people interested in you, and then, you know, this is why you've associated with this guy or you want him to be talking about you to his followers, I can understand why you think it might make sense. I think it's disgusting.

31:23I think what he says, and he did say that shit about 9-11, and I don't believe him that he takes it back. I think he meant it. But whatever. It's going to be the Democrats' problem who are associated with him. Okay, let's keep going. There is, well, my team would like you to see this soundbite from Hassan Piker, who tried to defend the Thanksgiving lady as follows. Sop four.

31:45Emily Jashinsky:Guys, the Thanksgiving gate is not as consequential as you think it is. please. Thanksgiving gate does not factor into the equation. Her you know, less than less than fantastic debate performance where there was not a lot of antagonism. No one was attacking her. She didn't like shine in the election at a time when more and more people are starting to pay close attention to the races. My mom made me warm me some pasta from the other night. What a fucking night this has been, bro. So I don't have the fullest grasp of this. I hate my big but it appears there were some irregularities in the reporting process.

32:28So he's got a lot going on. What's there to disavow? Sure. That's just as controversial as he gets. Not, not we could be here all day for playing controversial soundbites from him, but yeah, he's eating pasta from his mom. So relatable, relatable, Emily. Although it's been a long time since my mom's been cooking my meals. Gotta be honest.

32:47Emily Jashinsky:Well, Well, I saw on Instagram that maybe you shouldn't be cooking your meals. I'm cooking my own now and starting small fires in my home. Did you see that? I saw it on Instagram. I immediately sent it to my boyfriend and I was like, at least I don't do this. Can I tell you what happened? It was a nightmare. So I don't know if the audience is familiar, but I posted on my Instagram. There it is. Oh, my team had it at the ready. I didn't even tell them to. That's the fire department inside my home. three of them in all, there were five here and the big truck and then the little trucks too. And, um, it all started because I tried to cook a chicken cutlet, a breaded chicken cutlet, like in Panko.

33:32And you have to put it in, I put it in a cast iron frying pan with oil, not, not a ton of oil, but it did start to smoke. And I had, it's the problem is it was an, it's a relatively new stove and the little, like the smoke, the fan thing, it's supposed to go on automatically and it didn't go on. And I think it's because I turned it off. I think it was annoying me and I turned it off. So then the smoke got out of control, I guess. I didn't really pay attention and the smoke alarms went off and they went off everywhere, which makes sense because if you actually have a fire, you want to let everybody in the house know that there's a fire, but everywhere they were going off and loud and like it was and some of them speak and say fire fire fire which there wasn't and so i'm running around it like trying to get the smoke out to opening up the windows and opening up the doors and the dogs are going crazy because it's so piercingly loud just as a human ear never mind to a dog ear so i let him out on the side lawn which strudwick is not allowed to do because he's so such a menace and the pool is there and that dog cannot be near that pool because he will not just go in the pool that I can handle, but he loves to rub himself in the dirt and then run all around the hardscape and the furniture that we have out there, which is the pain in the ass to clean.

34:51Anyway, I had to do it. The dogs are out. The fire department came. I mean, if there had been like a five alarm fire, this fireman would not have been dressed any differently. They had every piece of gear on, Emily, every single piece at the and they they got to the door. I opened up the door and they clearly saw there was no fire and they go, did you try to cook? They had a feeling. Yes. I thought we're running around trying to override the system. We can't try to turn off the electricity, which we did. Then you turn back on the electricity. The alarm started up again. Finally, we got in touch with the alarm guy who showed me how to turn it off.

35:30And it finally went off and they left. We took pictures. They let me sit in the fire truck. That was fun. Come on, Megan.

35:39Emily Jashinsky:You can take a ride. They're like, do you want to stay in the fire truck? I'm like, kind of. So they let me and then we they wanted some selfies. So I gave them selfies and I want a selfie with them. So they gave me one. And then then I go outside. Strudwick is the disaster I knew he would be. The whole lawn, it was torn up. There was dirt everywhere. He had gotten into some old food that my kids had left out there. He was rolling in the dirt in the flower bed right out of, out of the pool, wet and rolling in the dirt and then running all over the furniture. I'm like, get inside, get back inside.

36:10So I get them back inside. And then I finally turned back to the chicken. I had nine chicken breasts. I was going to make these to get the whole family through the weekend. You know, I was like, you can have it for dinner on the go, or you can have it for lunch. If you need something, we eat so badly when we're at the beach. So I, whatever. So nine chicken breasts and I had cut them in half. So I had 18. I had two that were cooked too. And I come back in to sort of see the mess and see what they're now all covered in flies from my open windows and my open doors, which I don't have any screens.

36:48Why don't I have any screens, Emily? So then I, they all had to go in the garbage. I threw them all out and I went out to dinner. My husband was out with doing this weird sports Olympics things with his friends, but I went out with some friends who were like, come here. They gave me a nice cocktail. We had a delicious dinner, but I was like, cooking is not for me. It's not for me.

37:12Emily Jashinsky:I thought for sure you had actually started a fire. So in a way that story is actually vindicating and redeeming. You did not start a fire. This is the alarm system's fault that you didn't do anything wrong. You, maybe you should have remembered but you didn't start a fire. You were fine. Yes. It all boils down to the new stove that insists on like going off automatically. And the reason I turn it down is because you will boil an egg, which makes no smoke. And it will suddenly go turn on to like number five and it's loud. You're like, Oh my God, what's happening. And that level was needed while I was doing the chicken, but I had already turned it down.

37:52And I guess once you turn it down, it stays down. I don't, I don't understand my new stove. I don't, there are, there are limits to the short list of gifts that God gave me and not one is present inside the culinary arts. It's very sad. I've tried so many times. My audience knows my only regret on my whole kitchen snafu was that my dear mother-in-law was not alive to enjoy this because my kitchen follies were among her favorite thing in life. And I would have loved to have had a laugh with her over it. Anyway. Okay. So that's a long digression. That's not actually what I wanted to talk to you about next.

38:30Emily Jashinsky:I don't even remember how we got there. I wanted to talk to you. I don't either. Um, this is a different kind of five alarm fire in Massachusetts. They've now passed an abortion law allowing abortion all the way up to birth, all the way through the ninth month, the 40th week of pregnancy. And the signing ceremony with this Maura Healey, the Democrat governor there, looks like they are signing a bill to give children a lifetime supply of chocolate. Do we have the video? Can we watch this? It's deeply disturbing. Here, watch.

39:16all these women are so grateful to her for the chance to kill their own unborn child up to birth let me just say something i'm like i don't talk about abortion a lot in this show i just it's such a deeply personal issue and like i just i i try to avoid it i just think it raises too much emotions and my old school journalist inside of me is like that's not something i should be opining on, but the ninth month, you've got to be kidding me. This is barbaric. And just as a reminder, okay, just as a reminder, here is what Kamala Harris has had to say when she was running for president about the notion that Democrats want abortion all the way up to the ninth month.

40:01Let's start with 15B. They say that allows Democrats to perform abortions up until, you know, birth, which is ridiculous. Ridiculous. Here's 15C, Biden and Kamala Harris on this issue. We are not for late term abortion, period, period, period.

40:19Emily Jashinsky:Nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. That is not happening. It's insulting to the women of America. And Massachusetts is the 10th state, they're all blue states, to allow this with the cheering female crowds all around this governor as she gives permission to murder a 40-week-old baby in uterus. It's awful. Did you notice they were wearing pink? It reminded me, many of them were clearly intentionally coordinating to wear pink, which reminded me of when Andrew Cuomo lit up the Empire State Building pink, I believe, after signing a similar bill. If I'm remembering correctly, it was after signing a similar bill.

41:03Emily Jashinsky:And I went and read the language of this Massachusetts bill this morning. And this is the logical extension of their position on abortion. So it's no wonder that they're happy about it. What it does is totally remove state limits on why someone could receive a late-term abortion, meaning it says it is entirely up to the discretion of the patient and the physician. Now, the New Yorker and the Atlantic have profiled a man who does late-term abortions. He specializes in late-term abortions in Colorado in recent years. I think he's in the Denver area. He said the majority of the abortions that he does are of healthy babies.

41:40Emily Jashinsky:There's a complete misconception because a lot of times, actually, the Massachusetts law, interestingly enough, I went and read it this morning, one of the things that they have in it was already that you could have a mental illness or a mental health reason for wanting to get an abortion in the ninth month. And that is actually where a lot of people who don't have legitimate health problems with carrying a baby to term, that's a clear loophole. And that's the fact check that allows the corporate media and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden to say, we're not for full, we're not for a late term abortion, because when you have the mental health exemption in it, that can be abused wildly.

42:14Emily Jashinsky:And it is, frankly, we've seen it many times throughout the country. It's an exception that swallows the rule. Yep. Yep, exactly. So this is very dark. And late-term abortion in this country is actually not even controversial. Virtually everyone's against it. I mean, it's just only these loons would favor such a thing. And honestly, at that point in your pregnancy, there are very few things that actually pose a threat to the life of the mother. I mean, I think Lila Rose would tell you at that point, whatever happens, you would just give birth to the baby. They would do what they could to keep the baby alive.

42:49But the answer in that far along in a pregnancy is not to kill the baby. It's to give birth to the baby, do what you can to save the baby and save the mother as well. And that brings me to the saga of McKenna West, whose story we broke here in the national media on Thursday. She is the surrogate mom from Alaska who's pregnant with a baby who's due on September 2nd, a little boy she's calling Gabriel, whose biological parents have hired her to be their surrogate. They're from California. And baby Gabriel was diagnosed with a heart defect, a congenital heart defect, at age 20 weeks. and the parents told her to abort him.

43:32And she refused, even though the surrogacy contract says they can dictate when to have an abortion. When the rubber met the road, she couldn't do it. And she refused to abort him and now he's almost due. And they're in a massive legal battle that is taking center stage in this country about who's going to dictate care when he's born. Because what he has is this heart condition that if you get three surgeries, one right after birth, one, I think a year or two after, and then one right after that is very survivable. You actually can survive and have a, have a thriving life. We showed video of a little boy who had it on our show on Thursday and she's moved to Texas for now where the law is very good on this issue.

44:16And Ken Paxton, who is running for Senate down there for John Cornyn's old seat, he stepped in because he's the attorney general and argued on McKenna's behalf and said, this This baby deserves a guardian ad litem, somebody to argue for the baby's rights himself. And it's the family, the parents, the biological parents should be forced to provide life saving care once this infant is born, because there was a question about whether those parents are prepared to just provide palliative care, like let him die comfortably or actually provide the surgery that could save his life. And now there's been a court ruling.

44:53We were waiting for it yesterday saying this child will be given life saving treatment if he needs it upon birth. But recognizing the biological parents as the parents. So it's not yet done. We're still awaiting more court rulings on this, Emily. But we are in a fierce fight here that's going to affect Ken Paxton's probable Senate run. It's going to affect the right to life in this country. And it's going absolutely to affect surrogacy in this country.

45:18Emily Jashinsky:Absolutely it is. And this puts, again, to the test the idea that abortion is about, totally about women's bodily autonomy. That is the left's position. That's exactly why you see bills like the one in Massachusetts being signed so proudly. Because if you really do believe that, if you believe that a woman's bodily autonomy is a right that is higher than the right to life, then, of course, you have to defend this. You have to defend this vigorously, and you have to defend this proudly. But we know, just the fact that we know this little baby has a congenital heart defect tells us how developed he is.

45:53Emily Jashinsky:He has a beautiful little life that is already bringing joy to the woman who is carrying him. He has equal dignity to you and me, and our government doesn't recognize it depending on the state that you're in. So these cases, I mean, technology is pushing the abortion question into a much more interesting place, I think, because it's starting to challenge some of what we thought we knew about what happens in the body and how we develop as human beings in utero. So, but people need to go back and watch your interview if they haven't, even just focusing on some of the cases of people who have survived these congenital heart defects and went on to be beautiful, living, breathing humans, just like you and me.

46:31Emily Jashinsky:It's hard to even talk about, but I hope people do confront the challenges of this case because it does put to test. If you really believe this is about a woman's bodily autonomy, what you're saying is that's more important than this little baby's life, which is already in existence, human and alive. That's a human life, meets those two criteria. as Christopher Hitchens said, actually, famously. If these biological parents don't want him, let a parent or a family that does have him. You just wanted him aborted. You just said you wanted him killed. Now he's not killed. He's going to be born. Why don't just give him up?

47:05Just like McKenna said, her brother wants to adopt him. Lila Rose was here too. She's got lots of families who would adopt him. They'll help with the medical issues, all of that. You don't have to worry about the money. um just just give him up stop stop with this like to fight for custody for him just so that he could be allowed to die which is still on the table potentially the parents haven't said much publicly at this point the biological um so we are continuing to follow this because we're the baby's born the baby's due to be born on september 2nd and there's precious little time to make sure this legal fight gets resolved the right that's basically all right and it should be treated as

47:40Emily Jashinsky:such. It's deeply disturbing. I'm like, and now we know this baby. Now it's a baby boy. His name is Gabriel. He has a mother right now carrying him to term and a court has stepped in to recognize his rights, his right to life as he's about to be born. It just cannot be. And honestly, it just is a political matter. These Democrats should not want it to be that these biological parents are allowed to take him and just watch him die, watch him suffer and die. You might already own a firearm, but what if you could start with less lethal methods to avoid the financial and mental repercussions of pulling the trigger?

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50:40emily jashinsky host of after party and the mk wrap-up show is back with me okay so we have to properly address my favorite story of the day has to do with canada the evil top hat misbehaving yet again. They have their own Miss Universe pageant, just to start at the beginning again. They have their own Miss Universe pageant, and it didn't go well. It happened last week. Things went way off the rails, okay? Here's how it got started. They decided to have a national costume segment. Now, you're playing with fire, my friends up north. You're playing with fire right i can speak to this personally yeah be careful if you're a woke canadian you don't want a national costume segment and you certainly don't want one whose goal is quote a celebration of canadian culture and heritage combined with creativity it's not gonna go well each delegate must showcase a unique costume dress or outfit inspired by Canada's traditions, symbols, and history.

51:52Now, a gal who was in the pageant, two gals, one named Carissa Haverkamp and one named Jasleen Kelly, took it very seriously. Carissa wore a feather headdress and a red handprint painted on her face, which is a symbol representing solidarity with the missing and murdered Indigenous women's movement. Okay, That's the one gal there. The other gal, that's the one on the right with the headdress. The one on the left is Jasleen Kelly, whose costume was the theme Arctic beauty, featuring an all fur dress and boots known as mucklucks. And here's the real sin, Emily, two braids. WTF. She had the nerve to wear braids.

52:37And the BBC would like us to know, and I quote, hair braiding can have deep cultural meaning for First Nations people. Okay. So you're offending people by wearing braids. Jasseline is an interior design student, model, and humanitarian advocate. She hopes to one day become a globally recognized interior designer and humanitarian leader, proving that success is most meaningful when it is used to uplift others. So she's going to find you a home if you're homeless and then design it for you and make it. I don't like I'm not sure how you combine those two, but that's. She didn't get off to the right on the right foot.

53:12But because the people who she wants to impress with her humanitarian commitments, they're not going to go for this, Jasmine. Let me tell you right now, your braids, your Arctic beauty and your all fur dress are a hard no. But you don't have to take my word for it, even though you should, because I do have experience in this department. Listen to previous Miss Universe winner out of Canada, Ashley Calling Bull. And now the last name should tell you something about where this is going. Calling Bull, which you could separate down to Calling Bull or Calling Bull, which is how she sees it, had something to say about those outfits and those damn braids.

53:58She's a Plains Cree woman from the Enoch Cree Nation. And she was out there as a co-host to the event. She won back in 2024. So she's standing next to this dude named Sonny Borelli, who's the national director of Miss Universe Canada. And they're doing something else in the pageant. She's she has not been asked to come out there and comment on or judge the costume segment at all. They've moved on. She actually is like a couple of days later and she's trying to help co-officiate, co-host this pageant. And she hijacks it to interject her opinions on the costume segment that happened days earlier.

54:39Let me do it this way, because she first decided to go on the radio, which no one asked her to do, and start bitching about the pageant she was co-hosting, letting everyone know that Calling Bull had some real problems with the way shit was going down. Here's the radio segment first. I felt like I was educating them and giving them hell at the same time because I needed them to understand how bad this was and how much it affects other people. And I'm glad I got the message across, but it was heavy on me.

55:13Emily Jashinsky:It was really heavy on my heart. Okay. I, I, I, me, me, me. She was apparently for the costume segment, not in the arena. She saw it online. She was outraged. She called into her own pageant to educate them and also to give them hell. You might say call bull on what they had done. And so she felt she was so outraged. She had to call into the local radio station to shit on the competition that she was the queen of. I mean, 2024, your reign is over, but whatever. and then she's just supposed to do her duties. And as you know, just like with the Oscars or the Grammys, airtime on the stage is precious.

55:53Everything you say comes at the expense of something else they had in the rundown, calling bull. If you had spent any time in television, you would know that. She went on. Her hijacking went on. I couldn't believe how long it was. It's too long for me to play the whole thing. We cut it down to one minute. here is the one minute that we cut from what was like a three minute speech she gave watch i have the envelope and we're going to call our top 20 before we do that sunny i wanted to acknowledge something if we could turn the music down just a little bit so with miss universe canada me being the first indigenous first nations miss universe canada that was such a huge honor i wanted to acknowledge this during the national competition the costume competition there was cultural appropriation that was done towards indigenous peoples and with Sonny he took action by listening to me I feel that it's my responsibility to also give you an opportunity to say something to the indigenous community because yes there was a statement but I'm sorry it goes so far

56:59Emily Jashinsky:yes on behalf of all of us at Miss Universe Canada it was not our intent to offend anybody and if we did we take full responsibility we will learn from it we will make it better we will make it right we love you we love canada and that's why we're here yes and what i and hold on and and we're going to take another step further i uh reached out uh to ashley we'd like to invite you to be the official liaison to our costume competition moving forward we apologize again we love you now that we are celebrating people's cultures let's celebrate who's making get into the top 20, right? Oh my God. She's good.

57:35She is insufferable. So how about that? Right? Now we're going to call the top 20 before we do that. Turn the music down. By the way, I love that they didn't. They didn't. They clearly did not want her to interrupt this way. It was cultural appropriation. Sunny, you took action, but you need after listening to me, but your statement wasn't good enough because this poor guy, Sunny, of course, is with his man bun. I don't feel bad apologizing since it happened. I don't feel bad. No, me neither. Now, the two girls had to had to issue statements. Have her camp. I acknowledge and recognize that my outfit for the national costume caused hurt and offense to people in the indigenous community.

58:15I'm proud of my own great grandmother and her resilience and how much she was there for my dad and desire to share that with Canada in the world. I appreciate what I've learned from this experience. Blah, blah, blah. self-flagellation. Then the other gal, Kaylee, uh, my intention was never to disrespect or misrepresent indigenous culture, but rather to recognize and celebrate one of the first peoples of Canada. Everyone's sorry, Miss Universe Canada. They apologized and thanked calling bull bull. We've recently received feedback regarding some of the national costumes. We want to address this direct directly and sincerely.

58:42If any costume caused offense, hurt, or misunderstanding, please know it was never our intention. This segment was intended to celebrate creativity, heritage, and identity. However, we recognize that every design requires deep care, respect, and continuous evaluation. A special thank you to our former Miss Universe Canada, Ashley Calling Bull, for her guidance, advice, and assistance on how best to address and resolve this. To ensure that this doesn't happen again, now we're going to have a comprehensive costume guide. The guide will establish clear guidelines and standards for all future pageant cycles to ensure every presentation is thoughtful and respectful.

59:14And lo and behold, Ashley Calling Bull will run the costume segment from here. so you can wear what like i don't know little cat ears and a tail i'm like what are you going to be able to get away with now because you come anywhere close to like a fucking braid

59:35Emily Jashinsky:and you're out of there uh you know my favorite kind of megan kelly show segment is a segment in which Megyn Kelly cracks Megyn Kelly up. I guess you're reading the details of the story. You were like losing it. And it's funny because five years ago, we would all have been expected to treat this like a serious controversy because actually there would have been like boycotts organized and the organization itself would have had to have pretended to care about this. And like, yes, they are pretending to care about it, but it would have been, yeah, you could get fired. Thank God nobody did. thank god nobody did diana ross thank god that was exactly the universe dodged a bullet and that this is the silver now you you will be allowed to appear as a maple leaf only that will be the new costume competition it's so absurd like and back to the damn braid thing i was just saying this remember right you heard this the other day when we weren't allowed to put braids at all because you were considered a racist.

1:00:40If you go down to the Caribbean, all these women, the local women are like, oh, can I braid your hair? And like, they make$40 if you let them do it. No, if you say yes, and you put$40 in a black woman's pocket down in the Bahamas to braid your hair, that you're a racist for doing that. You help a black woman out by giving her the 40 bucks to let her do something she's great at. Fuck you, racist. That's how it is. And yet, like, so this girl's trying to honor. She's like featuring the indigenous, you know, culture at the Miss Universe, like calling attention to it. God bless these people. This is how the native dance and let's celebrate.

1:01:14No, you're a racist. You apologize. The pageant will humiliate you. The person who's humiliating you will be made the new boss of the whole costume segment. It's the self-flagellation is stomach turning. It genuinely creates acid in my stomach.

1:01:32Emily Jashinsky:I mean, the implications of Ashley calling Bull's argument, which is just about herself, she's using this as a virtue signal. She's using this as a fashion statement. Like, she's using this as an ideological fashion statement. You can tell, by the way, she keeps saying me. But the implication is actually rather offensive to minorities, to indigenous folks in Canada, as Francesca Hong would say, because it makes them out to be perpetual victims who are so fragile and weak that they are deeply offended by cultural appropriation. It's hurtful to them because they saw people dress in indigenous costumes at a Miss Universe pageant.

1:02:12Emily Jashinsky:They're not watching the Miss Universe pageant. As opposed to an honor. Yeah. Every normal person, whatever their culture is, if you see somebody else celebrating it, these girls weren't like shitting on native Canadians, I guess it is, indigenous at all. They were like celebrating, saying this is a thing of beauty. Let's celebrate them in a gorgeous way. These are, you know, stunning model types up there. No, everything's got to be offensive, right? It's like, so, okay, the solution is we won't celebrate you at all. We will never honor your culture. We will never teach our children about the way that your people lived or have the day in school where they can go into a teepee and dress in sort of indigenous robes.

1:02:55No, hell no. They'll all be called little racists. We're just going to skip right over that. And your culture will get slowly but surely forgotten because there aren't enough of you to keep it going without some other peoples to then also discuss it. and possibly wear it and celebrate it. Like there's just not enough of you. So let's just do the math. It's just, it's so absurd. I can't believe we're still playing this game. Canada is so lost. Debbie, why do you live there? Why? Why? You moved there and you won't come back. You just kept having Canadian children. Now you're stuck up there with the Melody Wisehearts of the world.

1:03:36The kids are Canadians, Debbie. Yeah, yeah. She not only married a damn Canadian, She gave birth to damn Canadians. And now she's stuck up there. Now she's talking about their national health care and like how the system's working. I don't even know what to do with her. Okay, but I love her. Equally outrageous behavior down here in our country from the WNBA. This is the last segment. We've got to get to this though. You don't wait until your house is on fire to install a smoke detector. You don't wait until the wind and rain hammer your windows and the power goes out to prepare for a hurricane.

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1:06:20Emily Jashinsky:One crunchy bite of our Hershey's cookies and cream bar, and I'm taking right back to college move-in day. I was a little overwhelmed by the newness of it all. Boxes were everywhere. I needed a break from unpacking. But just as I was able to take a breath and open my Hershey's cookies and cream bar, My new roommate Rachel walked in I offered her a piece, but she said no Then after a beat, she said Actually, those are my favorite ones We left The ice was broken, and we've been friends ever since Hershey's, it's your happy place Hey everyone, it's me, Megan Kelly I've got some exciting news I now have my very own channel On Sirius XM It's called the Megan Kelly Channel And it is where you will hear the truth Unfiltered, with no agenda, and no apologies Along with The Megyn Kelly Show, you're going to hear from people like Mark Halperin, Lake Lauren, Maureen Callahan, Emily Jashinsky, Jesse Kelly, Real Clear Politics, and many more.

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1:07:25On the braids discussion. Yesterday on the show, we were talking about this Dijoné Carrington, who plays for the sky and she committed this obviously intentional foul against Sophie Cunningham and could have really hurt her, like got her by the neck. It was disturbing to see. She got the flagrant two foul, which meant she got ejected from the game. And then she tweeted white privilege from her locker room and added the Indiana fever. But she tagged the Indiana fever on it. And she did it right after this happened. It was so clear what happened. Then when she started to get a bunch of shit for like, how dare she call white privilege in the WNBA.

1:08:01What? Come on. She was like, I never said it was about the foul or the fever. Like, no, you literally did CC the fever on your comment and then started a lecture us in her little post saying as follows, because she went to school at Stanford for some of this bullshit, you know, African-American studies. I actually went to school, one of the top universities, I might add, to educate myself on this exact subject. I would never use that term as a rhetorical weapon, knowing the historical and social way it holds without having the proper evidence to substantiate it. And she said that it's on the last thing from ignorant or asinine when it comes to speaking on white privilege.

1:08:43Do your research on that one. Okay. Now let me tell you something about this girl. So first of all, two points, Jason Whitlock. I got a lot of thoughts. Jason Whitlock tweeted out a full screen, a picture of Dijoné when she graduated from Stanford. Here it is. And Dijoné now. And honestly, like, this is what got me talking about the braids. It's like, look at her on the right. She's got hair that's whiter than mine, straighter than mine, super long. It goes down to her butt now. And, but so she can wear this, which is obviously white girl hair, but I can't wear a braid or I'm a racist. Like, or in Canada, a feather.

1:09:22I'm like, no, you can't do it. But this is fine. She's allowed to culturally appropriate from me, but I can't culturally appropriate from her because it only works one way in becoming a racist, which is bullshit. But his point was more about, look at how she looks now. Can you put that back up there? Like she appears to have done something like to give herself filler face, like the super puffed out cheekbones, the like overly arched eyebrows, the the like overly lined lips and like the tood you know with like the facial expression and the bright blonde hair as opposed to the stunningly gorgeous person she was in the picture from Stanford where she's just looks like a normal gorgeous gal and Jason Whitlock he's amazing he posted on x quote look at what the WNBA stole from us the young lady on the left is the dream of every black father and every black son.

1:10:22The woman on the right is feminism's creation and a nightmare. DeJanae Carrington in both pictures, one in college, the other in the WNBA. Right on. I totally agree with him. And it's also the place that she started to talk like she talked in that post. She sounded like a normal person in her videos from Stanford and get this attitude, right? It was the WNBA that did this to her, not Stanford, which is why you shouldn't send your daughter there. This league corrupts you in a very sick and unhealthy way. And then one final point, Emily, her privilege claim. Okay, this woman, her dad was in the NFL and apparently was like really good.

1:11:07Standout safety in the NFL who played in two, not one, but two Super Bowls during his eight year professional career. Her mother, Vicki, was a star track athlete. She attended Horizon Christian Academy, a private K-12 school in San Diego. It closed in 2018, but her tuition there averaged between$8 ,000 and$11 ,000 a year, a year. And this was back, you know, quite a few years ago when she was in grade school. Modern day estimates would put that around$17 ,000 for kindergarten, up to$20 ,000 a year for high school. She became a highly touted prospect who played for elite programs. She attended Stanford University and finished up her college career at Baylor.

1:11:52I don't know about you, but I did not go to a fancy private school that cost$20 ,000 a year or have both of my parents in the home since my dad died when I was 15. both of them earning, both of them with enormous privilege, thanks to their incredible God-given talents in the athletic field, one who was a double NFL Super Bowl player. How dare she try to play the white privilege card?

1:12:21Emily Jashinsky:Actually, having two parents in your home is more predictive as a privilege of getting good grades than is money. So that in and of itself, which sets her apart from a lot, unfortunately, of Black kids in this country and white kids too. But that, of course, sets herself up, that sets her apart. And I think all of this just shows how shallow the identity politics really are, because to your point about how it's only appropriation when it's a white person appropriating minority culture, they would, if they were here, say, yeah, absolutely. It's actually baked into the texts about intersectionality and cultural appropriation that came out of academia in the 1980s and the 1990s particularly, they say you can only commit cultural appropriation if you are from the race in power.

1:13:09Emily Jashinsky:But all of this shows, even as we were just talking about having money, having two parents, it is not skin deep. And to act like all of this is skin deep, is racist in and of itself. It makes zero sense. And I'm so glad that more and more people don't feel like they have to take this stuff seriously because it is utterly farcical and dumb and makes no sense. It is hilarious, but it makes no sense. I'm very tempted to show up on the air tomorrow with Jason Arday hair and see how that goes over. Don't do that. The dreads down to my knees. I wonder how that'd go over. Why could she have my hair, but I can't have her hair.

1:13:50Honestly, it's like, it's such bullshit. Like meanwhile, I couldn't care less what color she dyes her hair or whether she's straight. Great. If that's what you think looks good, you do you. I honestly don't care. It's only this woke, scold type on the left that's ripping on the girls who wear the braids and tweeting out white privilege that would chastise somebody for wearing a braid or something that she considers just for black people. It's just outrageous. And now while we're on the subject of the WNBA, the coach of the fever, this Stephanie White, her first instinct was not to have Sophie Cunningham's back and say, holy shit, this Dijon A character almost, you know, broke her neck.

1:14:32It was to say, nay, she's going to get in there. She's going to defend that basket. She's not just going to let you run in there and do a layup. And I don't think this was intentional. You know, it's with the hard foul. OK, whatever. But like God, this wasn't intentional. Like, what are you saying? Yeah, it obviously was. Everybody else on earth disagrees with you. And why don't you have the back of your player, Stephanie? This woman, Stephanie, is very bizarre. Whenever she talks to me, she sounds like she's trying to like sound like a tough guy or like a man. I think this is what the WNBA does to you.

1:15:05You lose all femininity and you think that like to be cool or an authority figure, you have to act like a man or like a foul mouth person. Now I come by my foul mouth authentically. It's authentic.

1:15:18Emily Jashinsky:You're Irish. Okay. And I practiced law for 10 years. That's really where it happened. But anyway, you can see she's using it to like sound tough in the following clip. And she's now pitched. They were going to their next game and she held a presser before the game all about herself. She went on. I never do soundbites more than a minute. I told the team to make an exception here because I want you to hear it all. And then we're going to analyze it like the Zapruder film. Watch. No, I'm going to start today. You know, this isn't necessarily for those people that are in this room. This is more for an online community that's trying to create narratives that simply don't exist.

1:16:06Emily Jashinsky:trying to create a fabrication or distortion of who I am, of what I'm about. Our player's success, our player's health and wellness, our player's safety is always a top priority for me. One of the things I pride myself on is my relationships with players. For those who have anything to say about the play in the last game, I didn't see the play in real time. I went straight to a press conference. I thought the play got called right. Thankfully, Sophie's okay. Was it egregious? Absolutely. When you have a chance to watch that over and over and over on replay, you can see that. I didn't have that in real time.

1:16:44Emily Jashinsky:I take personally any suggestions that I don't 100 % always have my players back. I ride with them 10 toes down all the time. All the time. They know that. It's a shame that we can't have an opportunity to talk about what great basketball they're playing. Because they are f***ing playing. Okay. The reality is, with me, I will always lead with love. I will always lead with grace. I will always lead with humility. And I will always lead with integrity. Doesn't mean I'll always get it right. I'm also human. The hate, the fear-mongering, the divisiveness, the stuff that's trying to hijack our league will not win.

1:17:35Emily Jashinsky:Okay. It won't win. Sounding on the table. We are united. We are connected. We will not be divided. Every day these women put their ass on the line. Every day. When they go low, we go high. Love will win. Grace will win. humility will win and kindness will win i stand by them i will always stand by them everybody else can go to hell

1:18:13Emily Jashinsky:who does she think she is

1:18:18bravo well done stephanie love and kindness go to fucking hell oh we lost the plot does he come back i but when they go low we go i go to hell oh wait with stephanie no you're doing it wrong we gotta talk sister this is not the way this this gal is entertaining okay so let's go over it i i'm gonna start i'm i'm me me the whole thing well but no no that's not fair because she's leading with humility Megan so it's not all about her true then she's got her dropping her g's trying they're trying to create narratives she's got a little of the she's got a little of the uh what's her name Haley Stevens in her just just a tad then she goes uh who narratives about who I am and what I'm about actually none of us gives two shits about that whatsoever we just saw that you didn't have your players back and thought it was terrible.

1:19:19Like no one really cares who you are or what you're about actually. Um, okay. I, I did not see the play in real time. This is her defense for why she didn't have Sophie's back. Perhaps you shouldn't have commented on it then. Perhaps you should have said, I didn't see it. And therefore I will reserve judgment on what nay was trying to do, trying and what she wasn't till, you know, you've seen it. Cause that would be the responsible thing to do. I take personally any suggestion that I don't have my players back. We don't care about you. No one cares if you're offended or what you're taking personally.

1:19:57Man, this is a fucking playing there. Exactly. Fucking playing. OK, tough guy. All right. We got it. And it's a shame we can't talk about that. Now, why is it that we're not just talking about the plan, Emily, because you're trying to refresh my memory if you could.

1:20:15Emily Jashinsky:You know, I think it is the just abject violence being committed against a couple of the white players. The war. And this actually is what drives me crazier of the WNBA thing than anything else, is they're doing the classic move of when someone punches you and you punch back and the ref throws the flag at the person who punched back. That's what they're doing. They started this bullshit. it. Caitlin Clark was popular because she was shooting wild three-pointers. She was making three-point records in her rookie year over and over again. She was popular because she was making the game more exciting.

1:20:48Emily Jashinsky:They're the ones that racialized it. They're the ones that put boys in girls sports. Everyone else is just responding. Right. Exactly right. And it's like your player. So I'm sorry, but it was a player in your league who tweeted out white privilege. I'm pretty sure we're allowed to comment on that. You then defended that player who tried to break your player's neck from the look of it. So we have thoughts. Are we not allowed to have thoughts, Stephanie? Is that the kind of playing fucking plan that we're not allowed to comment on? This gal's not ready for prime time. That's what's clear. And the best was just the icing on the cake.

1:21:29Like we will leave with love and grace and integrity. hate and fear-mongering will not win when they go low we go high fuck off

1:21:39Emily Jashinsky:there's an amazing how to hell there's an amazing episode of the office where they're coaching dwight to give a speech at like a paper distributing convention and they show him like fascist speeches and he's up there giving this really boring speech and he's like pounding the podium and it's really contrived that's exactly what she just did to the the table pound it was like what are you trying to audition for like a movie that's hysterical that's a very good idea i you know i've never watched the office what i know don't admit that in public you'd like it you gotta start well i know i need to there are so many cultural references to it that i've seen clips of course but like i've never seen the whole series and it's on my bucket list okay last but not least we have got to talk about mckenna okay there is big news in the case stand by hold on a second uh i don't want to ad lib it where is it here it is right is this no alice where did it come under producers here okay yeah i just don't want to screw it up uh mckenna west the surrogate who has been pregnant with baby gabriel and in a fight with his birth parents, his biological parents, over whether he could be aborted, which she refused to do, and whether he would be entitled to life-saving care upon birth.

1:23:04His due date, September 2nd, has just given birth. Gabriel is here. He was born three weeks early in a Texas hospital. This happened just as we were on the air last hour, according to McKenna's lawyer, Lincoln Wilson, who was on the program last Thursday, reading you the news. McKenna gave birth today in Texas. She was not able to hold or see the baby due to the temporary restraining order the Texas court entered yesterday. It is believed that the biological parents are present and that due to another order of the Texas court, baby Gabriel will soon be receiving the life-saving surgery that McKenna has fought so hard for.

1:23:44He also shares that baby Gabriel would not need the surgery within an hour, more like within a few days. But what he definitely did need was to get on medication that stabilizes him and keeps his heart open to allow the surgery to take place. Thankfully, yesterday's order ensures that he will get that care and is getting that care. He also now has his own guardian appointed to look out for his interests, a guardian ad litem, which is big. That person's job is to look out for not the birth mother, not the biological parents, but Gabriel only. And we'll fight only for the baby. Thank God. So we don't know whether the biological parents are there because she went three weeks early.

1:24:27And it's possible they weren't there. But it's very sad that McKenna wasn't able to hold the baby. It's very sad for the baby that he wasn't able to be on his mother's chest and have that skin-to-skin contact. It's extremely comforting for babies, for newborns. That seems cruel to me. It seems cruel to the baby. And I wonder what the story is with these biological parents, Emily.

1:24:51Emily Jashinsky:That is amazing that the order was yesterday. And she went into labor three weeks early and had the, I mean, thank God. Thank God, truly, that she went to Texas. The order came down yesterday. Yes. We pray for the doctors that are working on the little baby because that can't be easy either. I know. No, it's so true. Thank God. She hooked up with Alliance Defending Freedom. I'm telling you, if you want, if you're looking for somebody to donate to Alliance Defending Freedom, honestly, they do the Lord's work. Like literally they're doing the Lord's work there. And this is one of their cases. And this is, this guy used to be with ADF and he is representing her.

1:25:32And I'm, I'm sure he told her you need to leave Alaska and get down to Texas where the law is much better for the unborn. And she did, and she did it soon. She did it early, you know, because babies do come early. They come three weeks early all the time. And lo and behold, she was here Thursday. And look what happens within, you know, less than a week. That's a miracle. She gave birth. She, thanks to her, thanks to McKenna, that baby had his legal rights represented and protected by the Texas courts. And to his credit, Ken Paxton, the current AG of Texas, stepped in and argued on behalf of McKenna as well, which I'm sure made a difference and good for him because he, it's one thing to say you're pro-life and it's quite another to actually get in there and start swinging when it matters, when it's just one life, you know, like that's, that's one thing about Christians, about most pro-life Republicans and pro-life Democrats too, for that matter, is just one life.

1:26:27They will fight for each one matters so much. What a beautiful thing to stand for, you know, and now this birth mother, McKenna, the surrogate mom, no matter what happens, will always be able to look at this child and say, I fought for you. I saved you. She has saved him thus far. And let's just hope and pray that he's able to be saved now that he's here.

1:26:53Emily Jashinsky:And it's forcing so many important legal questions, which you've covered exceptionally well, that because of how quickly surrogacy technology evolved, I think a lot of people didn't necessarily even think like there was just an episode actually of Keeping Up with the Kardashians where this came up where Khloe had twins and in a surrogate and they were wondering, well, could the surrogate if they don't want to have twins abort? And they clearly just hadn't really thought that through that these were their babies and another human being and there would be legal repercussions. And so cases like these do force us to confront the legal, philosophical, deep questions.

1:27:30Emily Jashinsky:And it's about time we do. It's past time that we do. I'm sorry. You may be the biological parents, but you bring a third person into the relationship of giving birth to your child. And that person's going to have strong opinions on something like abortion no matter what she's signed. That's just the truth. If you don't want to have to deal with those issues, have your own baby or adopt. But if you want to do it this way with a surrogate, that other person's going to have a say. That's really what this case showed us. You can't force her to get an abortion. You can't. They tried. It failed. You can't.

1:28:14She actually does have a say by God, by right, you know, and she saved this baby's life. And if he's able to be saved and to have a thriving childhood, I pray God that's the case. He will have her to thank for it. And I, you know, I just wonder, Emily, like, what if the parents, the birth parents, they get him the life-saving care because now there's a national spotlight on them and there's guardian ad litem insisting on it. Do they raise this child now? Do they look at this child and say, we didn't want you. As soon as we found out there was something wrong with you, we tried to have you killed.

1:28:54We went to court to insist on our right to be able to do it, but we lost. And then you came into the world and we figured, uh, he's here. And this is my own opinion. This is my own judgment of how their role in this has unfolded. But what are they How do they handle that?

1:29:12Emily Jashinsky:It's rare that I'm looking at a glass as being half full as opposed to half empty, but there may be a real glass half full scenario here where they have a living, breathing baby that was born of them and see the error of their ways and are able to make a cause out of it and publicly talk about how they got this wrong and how they're very grateful for this beautiful living baby made in God's image. and they can take that message to the public. I hope and pray that's what happens given their conduct so far. I doubt that's what's going to happen. But obviously having a living, breathing baby that you can hold changes you.

1:29:49Emily Jashinsky:And that could be enormously persuasive. It really could be. And maybe that'll be the case and they will be amazing surrogates for this message that many people need to hear. Maybe I shouldn't be optimistic about that, but there is a real opportunity if that's what happens for this little baby to change hearts. hmm yeah yeah he's gonna have to change his heart in order to live and he may be changing a lot of other hearts along the way with his journey and his story we hope of survival and wellness god bless mckenna uh i'm sure she's going through it this has got to be very emotional for her because she's saved him and yet she can't hold him she can't help him she can't comfort him and we don't know what's happening with the birth parents.

1:30:35We will find out and we will bring you the update tomorrow. Emily, thanks for everything you do for us here at the MK Media Company and on the air, both at SiriusXM and otherwise. We love you so much. You're the best. Lots of love, Megan. Thank you. We're back tomorrow with Maureen Callahan. We'll see you all then. Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

1:31:07One sweet, melty bite of a Hershey's bar, and suddenly I'm right back sitting on the front porch with my grandmother on a slow summer afternoon.

1:31:15Emily Jashinsky:She doesn't say much, just breaks the bar in half and hands me a piece. I open my mouth to say whatever a nine-year-old wants to say, and she replies with a low, shh, listen. So we sat there, listening. That was the first time I learned that quiet can feel full. Hershey's. It's your happy place.