Kamala vs. AOC in 2028, Jill Talks to Joe Biden Like a Child, and Sunny Hostin Tries Using "Harvard" Privilege | Ep. 1363

29:19That's me, not Politico. The email, which was obtained by Politico, carried the subject line, I think this guy is going to be president. Then there was a guy named Morris Katz. He's a Zoram Mamdani guy who's 27 years old and an ad maker who alerted his fellow Democrats. We found a model here to win over working class voters. Find a guy that looks like he's a union working class guy and put him forward. So how'd that work out for you, people? Because now you are in tatters and it certainly looks like you are going to be stuck with this guy who may or may not have thrown and hit a woman with the projectile bottle not too long ago, or I don't know, some years ago.

30:07either him or Ashley Webb, whose real name is James Charles. James Charles Webb. And if you decide to go with James Charles Webb, or even by engaging in the fiction that this person could possibly represent Maine in the United States Senate, here's a little news update for you on the latest from the transgender community, which our audience knows is not the best adjusted community. They're really not all that well together as a rule. Might be some individual exceptions on a case-by-case basis, but there's an overwhelming percentage of people who suffer or claim to suffer from this problem, the vast majority of whom are males who are working out their sexual fetish on us, that leads to a hair trigger.

31:01And we've seen in too many instances, turns them into actual trigger men. But the latest example comes out of Florida. Now this thing happened in 2025, but for some reason is just now hitting the internet now. And here's what happened. It was in Florida. It led to the arrest of a male student at the University of central Florida down there. I'm going to show you the video in one second, but the video shows police approaching two students, one of whom is the student identified in arrest records. His name is Jarrett Preston Vick, 26 years old. It's kind of old for a student. Maybe he's a grad student.

31:44And the cops were approaching these students as part of their investigation into a reported car theft on the Orlando campus. No word that this guy actually committed the car theft. That wasn't one of the charges that would wind up resulting from this encounter. But the cops had a legitimate reason to be there. They were trying to do their business, conduct an investigation, and they had the unfortunate experience of running across Jarrett Preston Vick. Watch this. What's the problem? Why do you let those kids get away with this? They are not supposed to be here! If you don't lower your voice, I am going to put handcuffs on you and I'm going to take you to a Baker Act facility.

32:28Lower your voice. Fucking try it. Are you threatening me? You're threatening me. Are you threatening me? I'm not just... Because I'm here right now to deal with a stolen vehicle. I ain't got time to hear you screaming and yelling. I don't have time to constantly be abused. We'll get OPD down here then, because I've got to work this stolen vehicle. What do you mean OPD? Alpha 73 University. Alpha 73? Can we get another unit to deal with Jay Lee here? He is having a breakdown. Say! Say! Say the right pronoun! What did you say? 73, 51. Get down on the ground right now. No! You're about to get sprayed.

33:13No, just let me out! Get out of the ground right now! You don't tell me where to go. Fuck you! Fuck you, cop! Alpha 73 University. I want to be away from him! No, it's too late now. He's gonna be taken away. She! You need to stop. She is taken. I just want to get away from him! I understand that. She! She! She! Beaimiento dejes! Run! Get on the ground right now! Get on the ground right now! Get down! Go!

33:59I gotta let them fly! . Come on! That's fine. Wait… Stop! . Okay. So this person was ultimately charged with several offenses related to that behavior, disorderly, resisting arrest, and is very, very angry that the police will not call him by his so-called preferred pronouns. But the policeman was dealing in reality and he was clearly faced with a just like Ashley Webb, another hulking, deranged man posing as a woman demanding that he be recognized as one of us. Well, I'm proud to say you're not one of us. You'll never be one of us. And frankly, you're doing a piss poor job of pretending to be one of us.

34:55His hair looked like one of those wigs you would get if you ordered rocker, you know, like 70s rocker, 80s rocker off of Amazon, just pointing in every direction, covering his face. And frankly, I can see why he wants to do that. He's not dressed like a woman. He just wants this police officer to know that in his heart, he is one and then to call him she. And thank God that cop operates in Ron DeSantis' Florida and understood full well that Florida is a free state and a reality-based state and that he would not be in any trouble for sticking to reality with that lunatic who was prancing around the Florida campus bothering God knows whom.

35:44Look, here's his mugshot. All male, obviously, and a pathetic excuse for one of those as well. But think about it. Kids in Florida are going to school with this lunatic who can't hold a ticket. Can you imagine being this guy's professor or colleague in the university setting? Or what if, per se, that person decided to run for and possibly even win a position into the U.S. Congress? We do have one in the House of Representatives. I just think the Senate remains too august a body to ever go this far. But I could be proven wrong. Maisie Hirono's there. She's an idiot. But it is one thing and like absolute deranged lunatic is another.

36:27So I don't think it'll happen for Ashley Webb. And I urge the voters in the in the main Democratic contest to consider this case down in Florida before you go any further, as if the blood coming out of the anus is actually my period weren't enough. OK, there you have an extra. There is, you know, some interesting information on the upcoming midterm elections, which is what this is all about. Everybody's trying to like shore up their chances from Maine on down. And Harry Enten, the CNN data analyst, gave us a little update on the generic ballot looking ahead to November. Take a listen to this in Sot Zero.

37:12So the numbers show what, Harry? They show a big Uh-oh, worry sign, at least compared to history, because I want to take it back through the history machine. I want to note, OK, House National July, CNBC, Washington Post poll average midterm years. This is the generic ballot, right? Where were we back in 2006 when, of course, Democrats would go back on to win the House? They were up by 12 in an average of those two polls. How about 2018? They were up by an average of 10 in those two polls. Look at where that average is now. well less than half of either the level of 2018 and 2006, way down there.

37:48Yes, they're ahead, but they're ahead. I have to shrink down on the screen. They're ahead by only four points, which is significantly less than what we saw in 2018 and 2006 when Democrats took back the House. So as I said, this is an uh-oh. This is a warning sign. Well, yes, Democrats are ahead, not by anywhere near the margin they were in prior wave years. Okay, that's because they're so crazy. The Republican Party is not popular right now. The Iran war is not popular and it's ramping back up. People are voting most of the time based on their pocketbook issues and President Trump's approval numbers there are in the toilet.

38:26So why would the Democrats only be four points ahead? You'd think they'd be crushing the GOP, right? Well, they're not because of themselves. because of them. They're cray-cray. I mean, I've been saying this for months now. It's like, you know, I've made the analogy of like, you're looking at your spouse and your spouse has put on like 75 pounds and was sitting on the couch, shoving potato chips into their mouth, like a little drool coming down and won't help out around the house. And you feel like you're doing everything and maybe your eye starts to wander. Like maybe, oh, okay. Hey, look at this person.

39:05They're looking pretty hot. They dress nicely. They have a good job. They care about their presentation. And bam, they tell you that they want to chop off little kids' body parts. Hard no. That's the position voters are in right now, looking at the slothful Republicans, but then taking a look about possibly cheating on them. And you've got true loons out there on the outside and voters are onto them. I mean, they saw how lunatic they were back in 2024. And it's actually funny because that political article I was telling you about, about Kamala Harris goes into how now her people have convinced themselves and her that while they really thought that, you know, she's for they, them, Trump's for you ad was devastating at the time.

39:52They've changed their views on that. And it was really all about the fact that she had too short a time. That's really that's what did it. It wasn't her positions on the issues like trans. So great. I mean, again, this bodes very well for the GOP. This is a dream, frankly, for them. And you've got this Democratic Socialists of America group that we've been telling you about that wants to eliminate the U.S. Senate, the Pentagon funding for all police, all jails. I mean, we could go It's truly crazy shit, but they're growing. They're growing in popularity, at least among the left. And there's the New York Democratic Socialists of America chair.

40:34This is a group, by the way, we saw them in Times Square on 10-8 after the attack on Israel on 10-7. I mean, on 10-8, when we were still fielding the videotapes of women with their bloodied pants thanks to attacks on them. Yes, there were rapes of Israeli women, the murders we saw all over Israel, of elderly women, of children, of innocent theater or concert goers, male and female, the torture that they were subjected to, cheering. There was the DSA that was in the middle of Times Square cheering and pulling down posters of the hostages, including babies, toddlers, is fucking vile. Okay. So this is a disgusting group that really should be nowhere near power, but they're, they're winning and their chair, Gustavo Gordillo went on Fox news, which is kind of interesting.

41:32Um, and here is, well, a little bit of what he said. Here's South 16. Let's start with that one. The problem we're facing in our housing system is that we talk about tenants and We say they have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They have to be responsible financially. But when we look at the landlords, we don't we don't use those same standards. Landlords in New York have been making a 12 percent return on their investment for on average. Should they make what's fair for the landlord to make if you don't like 12? They're complaining that 12 is not enough. And we don't think that anyone should have a constitutional right to double digit returns on their investment.

42:14That's why we've implemented. No one should have a right to a double digit return on their investment. No one has a right. That's not. No, no one's in that. That's not in the Constitution. But we what we see is that when we implement a rent freeze, we have landlords who are crying that the government is going to put them out of business and they're trying to do it effectively. No, you know, are all landlords perfect or some landlords lousy? Of course they are. But I just think that the idea that no one should make a double digit profit is the antithesis of the desire to like you can be anything you want to be in New York.

42:54Yeah, in America, that's right. But this little man with the ponytail and the weird facial hair would like to dictate how much you can make on your business if you're a landlord. He'll decide. This is right back to Barack Obama. I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. this is right back to his exchange with Joe the plumber, remember? And how, yeah, you've made enough money and you didn't build that. You didn't build that. You built your business, you didn't really build that. You owe the government still. I was just thinking about this on the death tax. It's like you earn money, you pay taxes on that money, then you get to put in your bank account.

43:39If you want to pass it down to your children upon your death, they have to pay a massive death tax on it just for receiving that same money that you've already paid taxes on. And depending on your tax bracket, you may have spent as many as 50%, as much as 50 % on your taxes. So you lost half your money that you earned. You paid that because you didn't build that. In other words, you did pay for the highways and the bridges and the maintenance of your fellow Americans. You really had no choice, but you did it if you were honest. And if you're not a New York real estate baron, not just Trump, I told you about this other guy I knew who was a big real estate guy who said his father would roll over in his grave if he found out that the son had paid $1 in taxes.

44:21They find a way to claim these huge losses so they don't have to pay anything. It's chumps like you and me who are salaried employees, and I am too, thanks to my business, that get stuck paying the full boat, that don't have all these weird fake write-offs to diminish our income, and we have to pay basically half of our salary to the government. And you do that. And then when you die and you want to leave it to your kids, they have to pay another half. So they get 25 % of what you'd want to give them and what you originally took in. It's just outrageous. And it's because of the guys like this, who are already in command.

44:57It's because of the Democrats that we have a huge death tax and huge taxes and so on. because they never think they've taxed you enough, ever, ever. And that guy, who I guarantee you, has accomplished nothing in his life, nothing in terms of business, and never signed the front of a paycheck, as opposed to the back as an employee who wants to decide how much you can make as a New York City landlord. And by the way, things in New York under his fellow Democrat socialist Zoran Mamdani are not going well at all. When I lived in Manhattan, I lived on the Upper West Side. We were constantly on the West Side Highway.

45:36That's the main thoroughfare that you take to get from the North to the South. If you live on the West Side, on the East Side, it's the FDR. And I was steps away from that. And my child's school was steps away from that. And now for what is the block radius? It is roughly 12 blocks from the from 34th Street up to 46th Street, which is right right by where I mean, so many people live off the on the West Side Highway just off of there. they have a huge homeless encampment. Huge. It's turned into a tent city. And it's sprawling, according to Fox News, reporting that, yeah, it stretches nearly 12 blocks, that the city has done very little to address it.

46:25It's full of tents, trash, and reported illegal activity. And take a listen to this soundbite. It aired on Fox just days ago with the people in New York. Mark, this is overwhelmingly Democratic, and I guarantee you a large collection of the New Yorkers interviewed voted for Zoram Mamdani because they want to change, maybe even hope and change. And instead, they got homeless encampments with trash and illegal activity everywhere. Listen to how they're reacting. And it's just getting worse. Apartment buildings keep going up. You know, people paying good rent to live in this neighborhood. And it's terrible.

47:01Drugs, prostitution and everything else in between. I'm a tourist here in New York and I'm disappointed how the government failed to support homeless people. It's sad that they're not getting support how they promised them. Make this a better place for everyone, make it a better place for tourists. We have enough problems bringing people from overseas into the United States. It seems like it's an unfriendly place to be. this is not a great look for us i think they got to clean them up they got to keep on top of them this seven day stuff or whatever it is now is really not working and they they just need to keep cleaning up i mean i hope you like it because you're going to be getting a whole lot more of it as this radical group takes over the democrat party that's that's why that's one of the many reasons why those Harry Anton numbers are so bad for Dems.

48:03The gender issue, the embrace of the far left DSA, who would vote for a party that wants to get rid of all prisons and cops and the Senate and the Pentagon? I mean, like who just like victims here, victims here. That's really the messaging that they're going for. So, I mean, look, Republicans need to get their shit together, But that should provide some comfort on those, you know, cold nights leading up to early November when they're getting very worried about the historical trend of the party in power losing and losing mightily. There's one other that I want to show you, and that is, well, I don't know if we have time.

48:47Well, let's stick with this DSA guy, Gustavo Gordillo, who also said the following to Martha McCallum, SOT15. How does the government become more democratized if the government takes over more of the power? So, for example, here in New York, if you have government-owned grocery stores, right, in what world does it make sense to build a$30 million grocery store and put competitive pressure on the bodegas that are in the neighborhood? I think that what we saw in the mayoral campaign is the mayor was able to build a movement that inspired people to believe that we could have a government that works for ordinary people, that is actually responsive to the working class.

49:28The inspiration is great, but if you're the bodega owner, how would you feel? If the government opened a big grocery store right next to your bodega, how would you feel? If one publicly owned grocery store that brings prices down in the neighborhood is enough to put someone out of business, then maybe they shouldn't have been in that business in the first place. okay the bodega operators now that's is this the hope and change Zora Mamdani ran on we're talking about these small kiosks and in some instances storefronts that have just like you've seen it if you've gone to New York just like a little hot bar where you get like sweet and sour chicken or something like that or in the bodega and the sort of the kiosks that are around those are going to be wiped out by these government stores and this is progress it's it's better if the money goes to the man than to the mom and pop shops that are actually supporting families with their grocery sales.

50:25It's not what they promised, of course, because as we know from history, socialism never works. That's why it gets rejected every time it's tried, as every young person with stars in their eyes eventually learns, in some instances, the hard way. We'll be right back with Sunny Hostet. You might already own a firearm, but what if you could start with less lethal methods to avoid the financial and mental repercussions of pulling the trigger? Wouldn't you like to have the full arsenal of self-defense tools available to you? That's where Burna comes in. That's B-Y-R-N-A. Burna's less lethal launchers are equipped with tear gas and kinetic ammo and designed to incapacitate an attacker for up to 40 minutes.

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53:04We've got a lot going on for you here still. I got a lot of I want to say about a couple of subjects here. All right. We've got on the subject of politics before we leave and New York City and how crazy these Democrats are. Zora Mamdani has decided a good person to screen who can make it onto the New York City bench, the judges in New York, would be Cynthia Nixon. Because Cynthia Nixon has a lot of experience as a lawyer. Oh, wait, that was a character she played on TV. She's not a lawyer. She's never been a lawyer. She doesn't know jack about the law. And yet she would be the appropriate screener for who can make it on the bench in New York City.

53:54Maybe she's gotten less crazy. Maybe she's just turned into a reasonable person whose opinion might. No, no. Here she is with her make make abortion. Great again. Hat. Remember when this came out, we thought it must be AI. Did not believe this could possibly be real, but it is. She really wants abortion to be great. And here she is, thanks to President Trump and the penalties that he and RFKJ have threatened on these healthcare facilities when it comes to their Medicare payments and otherwise, and as a result, their reversals on performing these trans surgeries. So thanks to the Trump administration, God bless them.

54:32Many of these hospitals have stopped doing it because they don't give a shit about these kids. They want to pretend that they care about trans youth. They want money. They want money. And once the cost became too great to perform these surgeries, like they care about their Medicare payments a hell of a lot more than they care about their trans payments, even though the latter are lucrative, but not as much as Medicare, the services started drying up. They stopped offering them. And Cynthia Nixon, who prides herself on having like, I don't know, three kids, all of whom are queer in some way, trans or gay or what have you.

55:04It's like, it's a you problem, madam, reacted when asked about the fact that NYU, a great university and great hospital where I have been many times, my children and their arrival into this world, that they've stopped performing these surgeries. Watch this. It's not 17. Most importantly, I am here today as the mother of a proud trans man.

55:37I am here today as the aunt of a proud trans man. My best friend's kid is trans. And my kid's best friend is trans. My trans kid had his top surgery at NYU a number of years ago. Wow. Wow. Wow. His doctors were fantastic. His surgeon was the best we could have imagined. And the idea that this city is filled with young people who thought they had a place to go where they could receive the highest care and that place has now been shut to them sickens me, sickens me to my core. So just imagine, if you would, for a minute, the kind of screening questions that Cynthia Nixon will be asking potential judicial nominees.

56:38And I realize it's not her fault Zora Mamdani would be placing any radical in this position. She just happens to be the one he named. He's the radical. It's his election that we need to have the problem with. But, I mean, it's as bad as we thought. between the homeless encampments, the objection to bodega owners being able to make a living, just the nonstop problems across New York, the sex workers who are now all over the West Side Highway servicing homeless in their tents. Yes, that was part of the report. Absolutely disgusting imagery. And now this nutcase deciding who's going to be on the bench deciding cases.

57:17I mean, it's just, it's as bad as we thought it would be. Back to presidential politics. Want to check in on Joe Biden as we have been over the past few weeks. Again, they wanted us to believe this man could be president right now. They wanted him to have access to the nuclear football right now. A couple of weeks ago, well, I guess a month or two ago now at this point, Jill Biden launched her book that shot right up to the number one spot on the New York Times bestseller list only to fall off into oblivion because it was bulk sales and she purchased her audience. No one has actual organic interest in Jill Biden, but she had an event at the 92nd street.

57:54Why in New York? And we showed you the tape in part. Well, now the full tape has come out of when Joe Biden stood up at the end of the event, which was moderated by Whoopi Goldberg and spoke to her like a toddler. and she spoke right back to him like a toddler. And it's even more disturbing than the short clip revealed. Now, I don't generally like to go over the same sound bites more than once because it's a waste of your time. But I actually do want to show this longer version of this clip because it's just... And it's disturbing. That's what it is. Forget the lies we were told. It's just disturbing the exploitation of this man that his own family was doing and was perfectly happy to continue doing.

58:39And by the way, it's the same team, you know, some of them at least, who are still at the top of the Democratic pyramid, who are still running messaging for the Dems. And I'm sure a lot of them will emerge as we get going again after these midterms in presidential politics. Maybe not on behalf of Kamala, because those two camps don't think much of each other reportedly, but on behalf of somebody. But listen, watch this. Joe has a question. Like you couldn't ask it later. Who do you love most in the whole world? Who do you love most?

59:24And so I'm going to do the last... No. I love you most, Joe. Is that the answer he wanted? Yes.

59:40Overwhelming. Well, that's what keeps him on his toes. He's never 100 % sure. I always keep him guessing. Is that not true? So the last thing I have to say is please remind people to pick up, now I know it says books. Oh yeah, gooks. It looks like gooks. It looks like gooks. I'm thinking, what are gooks? But I'm going to remind them. But I'm to remind people to pick up books on your way out. The name of the book is The View from the East Wing, And that concludes our conversation. Thank you so much. He's still standing. And I know it's gonna be. Still. She's doing it for the right to the right.

1:00:34My book. Sir.

1:00:41my book which comes out in september i have to remind them this is my event

1:00:53the only thing jill does better than right she's a beautiful woman i mean it's so it's so uncomfortable he's a dirty old man by the way like if they had let that roll two minutes longer, we would have been getting that image of her in a bikini again that he keeps bringing up. I mean, I'm happy that they still have attraction for one another. Don't get me wrong. It's inappropriate for him to keep talking about her like that publicly. But the way she speaks to him is, I think we're crossing over into like, you know, kindergarten teacher who's pissed off at the disruptive toddler in front of her.

1:01:31Like the tone, the the words the affect all of it to me projects she's annoyed she's annoyed she's speaking down to him quite clearly um and just at the end like do i have to remind him of whose event this is she's genuinely annoyed he did that my book and it was rude it was rude i mean doug would never do this to me he's the author not me i've written one book but doug my husband is he would know if I stood up at his event or if he, he would never talk down to me like that. He would be happy to see the spotlight. And, but he would, this, we would never speak to each other this way. And if I were ever up there on stage, Doug would never be like my book.

1:02:15I mean, would your spouse ever do this to you? So he's lost his marbles. She's annoyed by it. There's like a seething resentment underneath that tone, affect, and her willingness to treat him like a toddler publicly on that mic. I get that he's become one, but he's still your spouse and the former commander-in-chief and she can't, she doesn't respect him. I mean, neither do we, but like that's different. We're not married. And it's just incredible. The fraud that that family tried to pull on us. These Democrats should never be trusted again. The media that enabled them should never be trusted again.

1:02:51They literally thought this guy could be in charge of the nuclear football right now, right now. It makes me angry when I see him that way. It makes me angry of how he was taken advantage of by his family. And it makes me angry that they offered him up to the American people in a fraudulent manner with an entire media complex working to cover up the truth from us, to gaslight us on the cheap fakes and all that bullshit. These same journalists are now asking you for their trust as we go into the next round of heavy politics. F them. All right, so that's Biden. Enter Don Lemon. Speaking of the gross Democrats and enabling media who lied to us, Don Lemon's got thoughts about the next presidential contest and how it might involve him.

1:03:39Watch. The political ambition, is that true? No, but people keep asking me if I'm running for president and I don't know I might I'm serious I don't know I might because people keep asking me to do it um uh I actually think I would be a really good president of the United States okay like you're you're being serious no I'm being totally serious so what would it be for the people to want me for the people to want me well then we're safe he this is like crazy if you are in media if you are in political commentary you're going to get a fair amount and people asking you that question. That is a reality of being at the pointy end of the spear.

1:04:17It doesn't mean you actually have any chance, Don. Pro tip, it does not mean you actually have any chance. A whole different host of considerations go in to who can actually win, nevermind who should try. And you are not on the list, either list. Not to say I wouldn't enjoy covering it. So it's like a Kamala Harris situation. I don't wanna discourage it. I don't want to completely, you know, pop the balloon for him. But this is the delusion. This is the narcissistic delusion that somebody like Don Lemon, who was on cable news for years in the prime time at CNN, operate under as we listen to him.

1:04:57And we actually some treated him like an authority. Thank God those years are over. Here's more. This is that one, I think, was a week or two ago. Here's another one where he was on the Angry Ladies podcast. Right, Steve? Is that where this one comes from? saw 10? Oh, it's the same one. Okay. It's a podcast called Can't Be Censored. And he has some thoughts on MAGA, because I know you define MAGA based on what Don Lemon thinks of it. Well, here's your answer. Saw 10. MAGA is the closest thing to the modern version of the Nazi party. This is America's version. It's the closest thing without the Holocaust and all that stuff.

1:05:34That sort of mindset. That's what MAGA is, because most intelligent people or logical people, when they get new information and if that information is negative or not factual, then they change their minds with, oh, well, I wish I had known better. And now that I have this information, then I can readjust. No matter what you, no matter how many facts and how much information you give them, you give them about this presidency, about the policies, they don't change their minds because they're really not voting for the price of eggs. They're voting for white supremacy.

1:06:16Again, it's kind of like the Joe Biden situation. CNN put him in the prime time of its lineup as a straight, well, news anchor. And wanted us to believe that this was an objective journalist for all those years. Not only does he, of course, not like the right. He hates. He hates the right. Hates it. He hates MAGA. He hates Trump voters. Hates them. They paraded him for years as an objective journalist over there. And by the way, he's no different than 99 % of the on-air talent over at CNN. No different. If you think, you know, I don't want to name names, but any of the talent over there right now has a warm spot in their hearts for any MAGA voters.

1:07:09Of course, you don't think that. But if you were to think that, you would be sorely disappointed to hear them talk behind the scenes. It's just that Don Lemon has dropped the facade now. So let's see if that's a winning campaign message for him, that the Republican Party are a bunch of Nazis now. MAGA is a bunch of Nazis. It didn't seem to work out that well for Kamala Harris because it kind of was her campaign theme. and she was rejected just like Don Lemon would be. Although you go, girl, you got this. Now, Michelle Obama has been everywhere, you know, trying to build her brand and try to build her very sad little podcast.

1:07:45And she showed up at the Essence Festival and wanted to talk about a number of things, how aggrieved she is, yes, you know that, and also how amazing she is. So she's aggrieved and amazing. Those two things always go hand in hand. Like, she's incredible. People don't understand her. She's amazing. People are racist. She's spectacular. She's got an annoying family, pain in the ass daughters. She's a great wife, but she has an asshole husband. I mean, we could be here all day. Here's the latest installment of America. You've disappointed me again. SOT 11. I remember the first big speech I gave in Iowa.

1:08:25It was packed. I mean, I was pulling more crowds than most of Barack's opponents. But it was interesting. The more popular I became, the more of a threat I became. It was interesting. That's when the articles started coming out. I had been campaigning for more than a year. And then it was, this is when I understood, like, this is politics. Oh, they're coming after me because I'm useful. and they're trying to beat my husband. So they're trying to slow me down. Right. And some of those first articles, they would always start. She was wearing a purple sheath and she had on this pair of shoes. It wouldn't matter what I said, Kiki.

1:09:10The article would start with what I had on. Wow. And I realized, oh, this is how they do women in politics. This is how we treat women in public life. We diminish them to just what they look like and not what I'm saving. Now I'm giving impassionate speeches. I think people know now that I can give a speech that wasn't just that didn't just start happening. You know, I was I was always really good on the campaign trail. I was always a powerful orator. Oh, my God. She is dripping in narcissism. a dripping in it would you at least feign some humility i'm embarrassed for you you're actually not that great you're fine but you seem very scripted and artificial to me if i'm honest you don't speak from the heart it didn't you didn't move me at all at the democratic national convention you felt a little recycled and tired if i'm being honest um but just listen to her Oh, I was powerful.

1:10:16And that didn't just start happening. I was powerful from the start. Let me tell you something, Michelle. The reason they wrote about your fashion is because, yes, you're a woman. It wasn't to diminish you. They do it to every female politician, and it's not to diminish them. It's because it's interesting. It's part of your look. It's part of your messaging. They would do it to men, too, if men dress differently from one another. But they don't. They all look the same. They all have Navy suits on with red ties. It's not interesting. Or we would cover it. When your husband wore that tan suit, we wrote about it.

1:10:50Oh, that was our racism. I forgot. No, if a politician dresses in a different way, in a way that catches our attention, we as the media, we will write about it. We'll cover it. But they never do. They all look like carbon copies of one another when it comes to fashion. So it's boring. But the women do tend to take more risks. And then it gets more interesting. It's fun to talk about. It's yet another item about them that's expressive, that says something as we try to get to know them or the spouse of a politician. So fuck off with this grievance nonsense. You're not aggrieved. It's not it doesn't make anybody a misogynist.

1:11:26It's just something about you that caught the eye of people who are bored, need to fill magazines or newspaper copy, etc. Stop making everything an attack on you, you thin skinned person. It's just ridiculous. And by the way, if she's so upset about our focus on her fashion, why did she pose for Vogue four times on its cover? Why did she just do a whole book about fashion? Why didn't she release a book on my policy prescriptions for 2026 America? Where's that? She wants to be known for her fashion, but it has to be on her terms, you see. She wants us to rate what a style goddess she is, for us to admire her bold colors in her fall palette.

1:12:12But God forbid we just do that because our eyes brought us there. We're racist or we're misogynist or we're trying to diminish her. She finds grievance in everything. This is what poor Barack has been dealing with for 20, 30 years now. I mean, no wonder the guy is so gray, so prematurely. No wonder the girls fled the coop. and you never see pictures really with the four of them. I'm sure they're so happy to be rid of this nonstop negativity, negative Nelly all the time. And, you know, like the self-aggrandizement with the aggrieved nature. And so, but not for nothing. We did go back just to see like, what were they saying about her fashion at that time?

1:12:56Well, I was there, I was on the air, I remember. She was beloved, beloved by the press. maybe some mild criticism over on Fox, but even the folks over on Fox and I was there, they were afraid to criticize her. She was the black woman. She's the spouse of this rising black star, Democrat of the, you know, star of the Democrat party. And there was hesitance to go after her because, you know, people are afraid. So she did not get it hard. Are you kidding me? Like she didn't get it anywhere near as hard as Sarah Palin got it. But here's what was written about her. All right. I'm going to, I looked up some headlines from 2007.

1:13:37Here's Vogue. Now Vogue is a fashion magazine. They, you would expect them. This is August, 2007. All right. It's a year before her husband will win the presidency. And you would think Vogue would be leading with whatever her fashion was, since we were all so obsessed with it, according to her. Here's the lead line. Iowa in spring, a full nine months before the primaries. But Michelle Obama is already at work on her husband's behalf. The setting, the chit and chat coffee shop in Waukee, population 9 ,213, percentage of population that is white. OK, here we go, Vogue. 97.7 percent. The subject values hers and his.

1:14:21I married my husband, she tells the crowd, composed equally of reporters and supporters, quote, because we share the same Midwestern values. Keep your word, work hard, treat others with respect. Absolutely nothing about clothes. That's vogue. Nothing. Talking about your values, an implication that the Midwest is too white and how hard you're working. It doesn't really feel like a racist, misogynistic piece to me. Glamour. Again, it's a women's magazine that's obsessed with fashion. By the way, the headline of that Vogue piece was Michelle Obama, The Natural. The headline of the Glamour piece, Your Next First Lady?

1:15:02Question mark. Lead line. I have to admit I was a little intimidated by Michelle Obama when I first saw her. She was standing on the far side of a hotel conference room, and I got the impression of a regal woman who has a model's height. she's 5 '11", and a classic, understated chic. But then she came forward, extended an endless arm, and broke out her famous million-dollar smile. Million-what smile. She gave me a big hug, as if we were old girlfriends, and I felt as though I'd known her forever. Okay, where is the in-depth wardrobe commentary? I failed to see it. Were you offended by the passing reference to chic, which could mean anything.

1:15:44Are you upset with glamour calling you chic? As they said, you had a million watt smile and you look like a model and how radiant you were. Is that part of the glamours, misogyny and or racism? Michelle, April 2000. Here's Stephen Colbert. Let's see what he had to say. Yeah, let's listen. wants to know, they speculate on what kind of first lady a candidate's wife might be. And if you would forgive me in saying so, I think you'd be Jackie L, okay? Because -

1:16:23And I hope I'm not out of place in saying this, you're a very good looking lady. Well, we found your misogynist. who found him, Stephen Colbert, said you were good looking and like Jackie O. And by the way, you're there in a short skirt showing off your legs with Jackie O hair. But that was because of our racism, she would later tell us. We were too racist to have her wear her braids. That's why she had to look like Jackie O. So the only people we find making comments about your looks are Stephen Colbert, who is a leftist, a committed progressive, as we know. So maybe that's what's in your head, Michelle.

1:17:13Then here's one more for you. Okay. Before we move on 2009, the guardian, America's new vogue for black fashion is all due to Michelle Obama. So here we find one, a leftist publication that wants to talk about fashion, her clothing choices, fuel endless segments on cable news and countless column inches in print and online. An entire website, Mrs. O, has been set up to catalog every fashion move that Michelle makes. When she chose a dress from Jason Wu to be her inaugural gown, it catapulted the designer to overnight success. Everyone is obsessed. Quote, she's got an innate sense of how she wants to look.

1:17:54It goes beyond clothes. Jackie O had it. Princess Di had it. Michelle Obama has it, said Edward Ennenfull, a top stylist and fashion director who works closely with the magazine. It probably helps that Laura Bush, who had Michelle's job for the past eight years, definitely did not have it. Though Laura Bush remained popular even as her husband plumbed the depths of national disdain, she was never adopted by the fashion industry. She wore variations on the same homespun fashions for most of the decade. So who has the right to be aggrieved in response to articles like that. Michelle, is it you or might it be Laura Bush?

1:18:35Did you get the worst end of that? Or do you think it was the Republican first lady? I'm sorry, this woman is a lying sack of you know what. She's never seen a situation in which she's not the victim, even though all the situations in which she most feels victimized are in fact complimentary of her. I just, she's like a mental illness with this person. You know, it's, it's true. It's like a, like a, a vision disorder, like somebody who's, you know, like if you're colorblind, you're looking at red, but it's actually green and you would swear to the world that it's red, but everybody who's not colorblind can see that it's green and that there's something wrong with your vision.

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1:23:54No one is above the law. It's a celebration of the law. And how it applies to all of us. No one is above the law. I do think that there is a thing called pretty privilege. There is a thing called white privilege. There is a thing called tall privilege. And we have to acknowledge that. It's supposed to be a nation of laws. Is there a thing called Harvard privilege and millionaire privilege, the view privilege? Because you seem to be dripping in it, madam. Um, honestly, when I first heard that Sonny Hauston showed up at the scene of her son in handcuffs to help him out, I thought, what is the controversy?

1:24:36I would do this for my child too. She's behaving like a mama bear. And you're lying if you say you wouldn't show up there to help your child being handcuffed if they called you, especially if you're a lawyer, uh, like she is. And I am too. I do not begrudge her one second trying to help her son out in a tense and potentially scary moment. I do begrudge her her dripping sanctimony and hypocrisy. No one's above the law, and everyone other than Sonny Hostin is swimming in privilege that she's very pissed off about. She doesn't love our country. She feels threatened and unsafe when she sees a neighborhood full of American flags because the country's been just so devastating to her.

1:25:25We made her a multimillionaire. We funded her mansion in Westchester, which you could probably fit four of your homes in it. We'll show you the video yet again so you know what we're talking about. Did your child go to Harvard? Most people's kids didn't go to Harvard. Do you think her child got into Harvard completely on merit? Or do you think she might have played the Sonny Hauston view card to help him along? Not to mention the fact that her son being black is only a bonus to getting into an Ivy League university like that. Everybody knows that. So if there's any privilege, it's the one that she is immersed in day after day after day.

1:26:07But she won't acknowledge any of that. No, it's all about white privilege, which she talks about all the time on that show. and how, I guess, Trump is evil and his voters are white supremacists. That's her main talking points from The View. Well, what happened is recently her son, who's a Harvard grad, she'd really want you to know, and 24 years old, he's not a 16-year-old, was running. And apparently he's an avid runner. She's made mention of this many times on the show and decided not to run like you or I would or anybody who's in training for a marathon or for a track team or what have you on the road, on a track, on a path, in the woods, wherever.

1:26:57I've lived in Westchester. There are tons of beautiful neighborhoods and lovely suburban roads where you could run easily and tons of high schools with unused tracks where you could potentially run in the off hours and tons of Y's, you know, YWMCA or YMCA, where you could go. Like there's tons of facilities in Westchester. It's not like Manhattan where there's like Chelsea Pierce and that's all you have. He decided to run on railroad tracks. And I'm sorry to break it to you, Sonny and Gabriel. That's the son. That's dangerous, not just for you, but for riders of the trains. That's why it's criminal.

1:27:38That's why they've criminalized it. You're not allowed to do it. I newsflash as a white woman, I'm not allowed to do it either. Okay. Um, it doesn't matter if you went to Harvard or if you didn't go to college at all, law applies the same. You know why Sonny? Because no one is above the law, a concept with which you claimed to be familiar when we were talking about Donald Trump. What happened with that? I don't think there's a get out of jail free card if you went to Harvard. I don't think so. Pretty sure. All my years practicing law, I never saw that one. The law doesn't apply to you if you went to Harvard.

1:28:18Geez, the applications would be even more great in number than they are right now, if that were the case. No. Working class, elite class, class, Harvard class, you're not allowed to trespass on the railroad tracks because it's dangerous, not just for you, but for the people riding the trains and the people waiting for the trains and the people who live in the areas. If you don't believe me here, take a listen to the U.S. Department of Transportation on how long it takes trains to stop. Because while you might think they can stop on a dime if they happen to see somebody running down the track, you're wrong.

1:28:58Watch.

1:29:28the crossing. Because of the train size and your perspective as it comes toward you, it appears to be moving much more slowly than it actually is. Railroad tracks, trestles, yards, and equipment are private property. Walking or playing on them is illegal. Trespassers are subject to arrest and fines. Even if they went to Harvard. Here's what happened. He got stopped. he got cuffed he called his mom and it all played out on body cam footage here's her son explaining that his mother is a lawyer and then you hear sonny hostin on the phone with him and listen to the instruction this is from police body cam footage from june 16th sat 21 my mom's a lawyer by the way that's okay what's your name what's your name sir i'm brian brian Is that your badge number?

1:30:262814? Yes, yes. So the reason we're stopping you, this is trespassing right here. Oh, I'm sorry. It was open over there. I was just walking on a run here. I'm sorry. I just looked open for me. So I just walked in. So this is considered trespassing. It's criminal trespass. The reason why it's such a big deal, people get hit by a train all the time. We want to prevent it, obviously. Do you have any ID on you? Yes. Okay. Where is it? It's in my phone if you take off the case. Tell them your mother is a federal prosecutor. Yes. Hey, Mom. How are you? This is Officer Gomez. Your son's fine. How are you?

1:30:56This is. Yes. Federal prosecutor. OK. That's my son. He's a Harvard graduate. OK, so before she knows that the police officer is there and hearing everything and holding the phone, she tells him to lie. Tell them your mother's a federal prosecutor. No, you're not. You were once, but you're not. That was a long time ago, Sonny. and you shouldn't be advising your child to lie to the police. Then once the officer identifies himself and she knows he can hear her and he's got the phone, she says, former, former, right, correct, madam. You're already off on the wrong foot. Don't lie to police to get your son out of a jam.

1:31:43It's the wrong decision. The son says, I didn't know, you know, he didn't see the sign. Okay, that could be true. I think most of us know you're not allowed to run on the railroad tracks or next to the trains. I think most of us know that we don't own that property and it's a dangerous thing to do, but whatever. My beef in this whole video is not with the son. It's with the mother. She shows up to the scene as well. She's in person. And I believe this next soundbite shows that. Some of the exchange is on the phone and some of it is in person. and let's watch Sat 22.

1:32:49record like this. No, no, it's not anything criminal. He just has to appear. I'm dumbing it down to a violation. That's all it is. With all due respect, man, I still have a job to do, and we have to deter people from being on the tracks. Indeed, you do, because trespassing is the leading cause of rail-related deaths in the United States. Nationally, more than 500 trespass fatalities occur each year, per the U.S. Department of Transportation. More than 500 deaths occur as a result of trespass in and around the railroads and the tracks every year. So they do have a job to do. And it's part of keeping the community safe.

1:33:28Here is the son, Gabriel, asking if the cops can look the other way and saw 23. What happens if you didn't do it? What happens if you're like, oh, we're going to write this? Well, you know, we have cameras everywhere. If we didn't see you, somebody would have called it over. Correct. You know, there was too many trains coming in and out of there to not. I hate to say it's like my partner said, our hands are tied. It is what it is. Again, I don't care. That's that doesn't bother me. Have you ever been pulled over while driving your car? I mean, I don't think it's beyond the pale to say what if what happens if you don't write me a ticket?

1:34:04Please don't write me a ticket. I was going fast because of X. I mean, everyone's done that. There's nothing wrong with that. It's the privilege card that people are revolting against. Here she is now on scene in SOT 24.

1:34:45I understand. I understand. For trouble. It's an innocent mistake. I understand you have to take a violation, but it's something. I think I was walking over there, and there was some... Yeah, what were you talking about? I had a big interview today, and we're talking about it. Okay, there it is. Why'd you mention your big interview today? We all fucking know why. I'm a big star. I'm a former federal prosecutor. My boy went to Harvard. I'm on TV. And I had a big interview today. This is disgusting. This is not normal. This is not something most of us would do. Trust me, I've been pulled over by the cops.

1:35:32I can speed here or there just like anybody, though I don't make a habit out of it. And the thought runs through your head. Do I mention? I mean, in my case, unlike hers, I actually have cops' backs. on this show. And the thought runs through your head. Do I tell him that? Hell no. I would just never play that card. I would never play that card. Never. And this is what she does. I'm a former federal prosecutor. I'm one of you. And on top of that, I had a big interview today. We're all talking about it. I'm a star. You know me. I'm a star. And my son went to Harvard and now is researching at Yale.

1:36:12We're not the kind of people who commit crimes. That's what she's saying. We're not like those dirty, dirt under the nails, filthy working class losers who commit crime. We're from damn Harvard. Show some respect. It's disgusting. I'm on TV. I don't commit crime. I don't raise a son who would commit crime. We go to Harvard. Okay, stupid, dumbass cop who's inconvenienced me and my son. We could buy and sell your whole family, sir. That's what's happening there. It's disgusting. It is disgusting. I would have had no problem. She had shown up there and said, guys, he's never been in trouble. He's a good kid.

1:37:01Check his record. He didn't understand that this was private property because the sign is not clear. I would not, I would be defending her. I would be, I would do the same for my child. I'm sure you would for yours as well. But the Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, she mentions it at least three times. We didn't show them all. And Yale and her big interview and former federal prosecutor and all to what to avoid a citation. he's not getting charged with a misdemeanor like the stakes are very low we looked it up he's facing a possible 500 fine did you see the house do i need to show you the video again she can afford it i'm sure he can afford it too this is ridiculous like i'm sorry but i i don't want to hear her protestations about no one's above the law anymore as she plays every card she can possibly get her hands on former federal prosecutor i'm on tv with a big interview you.

1:37:58Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, Yale, Yale, Yale. No one is above the law. Oh, is that true or isn't it, madam? It's disgusting. That's the reason people are recoiling in response to this. It's not because no one could make the wrong decision about a railroad or railways, etc. And it's not because of the sun either. It's because of her and her messaging on the air and the nerve to after nonstop white privilege, no one's above the law to show up to a scene and pull that shit. Shame on you. Okay, before we go, a word on the World Cup. Congratulations to Spain and its fans. Personally, I was rooting for Argentina as we have beautiful friends from Argentina and they were so sad, so sad.

1:38:48So I know how important soccer is football to basically everybody outside the United States and several million inside the U.S. as well, though I don't think we compare to the enthusiasm in Europe and South America and beyond. So in any event, I did watch large portions of the finals and large portions of the World Cup. And I have to say I agree with the critics of the halftime show. It was terrible. First, they opened up with Madonna, who I don't know what she's doing, people. And I don't even know if she can still sing because she only ever uses the track and does the lip syncing. I have yet to hear the actual Madonna's voice in the past decade or so, but here's what she looked like.

1:39:47Yeah. Music makes the bourgeoisie and the rebel.

1:39:56I want to dance with my baby. Okay. I liked that song. Um, I remember it when I was married to my first husband, literally 26 years ago. Um, it's, it's fine, but I, I, I feel like the, the world cup could have gotten more relevant talent. Yeah. Right. Um, lip syncing, of course, because again, we have no idea whether she can still sing and the dancing was lame too. I'm not going to lie. That's the one thing Madonna really kind of could do all along. Not there. I don't know what she's doing. She's just squatting and, of course, writhing because that's her thing these days. Then after Madonna, we saw BTS, one of the biggest bands in the world.

1:40:52And I'm not going to lie. No offense, Bonnie. My friend Bonnie loves them. And I get it. They are very talented normally. I don't know if they were phoning it in, but both the lip syncing and the dancing look like a college boy band imitating BTS to me. Look at this.

1:41:16Lip syncing. Let's go.

1:41:21So the acrobats around them are doing a good job. The actual band? Look how they're phoning in even the motions.

1:41:31This is no Michael Jackson at the Super Bowl, people. Look at them, they look tired.

1:41:39It's like they had jet lag or something. I'm not impressed. Again, if I want to hear a lip sync track, I'll just play press play on Spotify or Sirius. Why do I have to tune into that? Then came Justin Bieber. And it was a beautiful song for Christians. But I'm just going to tell you, it wasn't the right song for the World Cup. It slowed everything down. It was a ballad. It was a ballad that it has sort of a sad. holy holistic feel to it and in the right mood it'd be the perfect song but at the world cup halftime show here's a little of that

1:42:30okay you get that you get the gist it was too much it was too sad too slow, too somber. It brought the room down. And then thank God for Shakira, who I must say, saved the day. Look.

1:43:04As you watch this, she's 49.

1:43:28She was great. Great. The right vibe, a great song. She looked amazing. I cannot believe she's 49 years old. She's moving around like she's 29 years old. Congrats to her on not showing us her vag this time, like she did at the Super Bowl with J-Lo a couple of years ago. It was classy. She had on sort of a hula outfit, which was totally fine, kind of saucy, but not too much for her age or for the setting. And she sang a great song. Again, I think that was also a track, but I forgave it because the dancing was good and she sold it. I'm sad that the World Cup is over. I loved having the fans from all these countries come over here and discover America for the first time and to help a lot of us see our own country anew through their enthusiasm.

1:44:13And I love all the stars who emerged. I love getting to know more about Messi and the guy from Norway and the rowing Mbabe. Is that how you say it? Anyway, we'll miss them. And we look forward to the next one. Tomorrow, ruthless. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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