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Podcast Summary: The Megyn Kelly Show - Episode: Kash Patel Responds Exclusively, WH Defends Boat Strike, Luigi Mangione in Court: AM Update 12/2
Episode Overview In this episode, hosted by Megyn Kelly, key political and legal issues are discussed, including reactions to U.S. military strikes on suspected drug vessels, comments from FBI Director Kash Patel regarding a critical report, and legal proceedings surrounding accused murderer Luigi Mangione.
Key Topics
- U.S. Military Action Against Drug Traffickers
- Context: The White House confirmed a second strike on a suspected drug vessel, which has raised questions about legality and intent.
- Key Players:
- Secretary of War Pete Hegseth: Authorized Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley for kinetic strikes against drug traffickers.
- President Trump: Engaged with national security team regarding actions in Venezuela related to drug cartels.
- Concerns:
- Reports claim that the second strike targeted survivors of the first strike, raising ethical and legal concerns.
- Ongoing debates about whether the actions are justified under laws of war concerning narco-terrorist organizations.
- FBI Director Kash Patel Responds to Criticism
- Background: A report by current and former FBI agents criticizes Director Patel's leadership, calling the FBI a "rudderless ship."
- Patel's Defense:
- Dismissed the report as being from "anonymous disgruntled sources."
- Cited statistics showcasing the FBI's arrest successes under his leadership, including:
- Nearly 30,000 arrests this year, significantly up from the previous year.
- Notable increases in arrests related to violent crimes, human trafficking, and the recovery of missing children.
- Political Reactions: House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries accused the White House of dishonesty regarding strike orders, indicating a broader political fallout.
- Legal Proceedings of Luigi Mangione
- Case Overview: Mangione is accused of assassinating UnitedHealth CEO Brian Thompson and is seeking to suppress evidence gathered during his arrest.
- Legal Arguments:
- Defense Claims: Argued that Mangione's rights were violated since he was questioned before receiving Miranda warnings.
- Prosecution Evidence: Includes surveillance video, a journal found in Mangione's backpack, and statements made during the arrest.
- Judicial Outcomes: The case is significant not just for its high-profile nature but also for the exploration of law enforcement practices during interrogations.
Key Takeaways
- The episode illustrates the complexities and tensions surrounding military actions against perceived threats from drug trafficking and the resulting political, legal, and ethical implications.
- Kash Patel's defense underscores the contentious nature of leadership within the FBI, especially amidst high-profile controversies and shifting public perceptions.
- The legal case against Luigi Mangione highlights critical discussions regarding civil rights, law enforcement procedures, and the handling of evidence.
Conclusion The episode of The Megyn Kelly Show delivers a critical look at contemporary issues in U.S. politics and law, with insights from key figures and developments that reflect broader societal challenges regarding security, governance, and justice. Megyn Kelly encourages listeners to stay informed and engaged with these pressing matters.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. I think we've gone from bad to worse. But I'm going to muddle through it because I've got some news for you. It's Tuesday, December 2nd, 2025, and this is your AM Update. AM Update with new and exclusive reaction from FBI Director Cash Patel to an attack on FBI leadership from anonymous agents. Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes. The White House confirms a second strike was ordered on a suspected drug vessel as President Trump's top advisors discuss next moves in Venezuela. It shows a cold, calculated, premeditated murder.
0:42It is the lock that any prosecutor wants. And Luigi Mangione in a New York courtroom seeking to exclude key evidence in his trial. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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2:22The Washington Post reporting Friday the quote double tap was ordered by Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley, this following an earlier order prior to the initial strike from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, authorizing kinetic strikes to take out these vessels. The Washington Post and subsequent reporting intensely focusing on the legality of Admiral Bradley's order, contending that the survivors did not pose an ongoing threat to the U.S., which actually has not yet been confirmed. As adjunct Cornell law professor and retired U.S. Army soldier Brian Cox, has argued and will explain today live on the MK Show.
3:01If this boat were just disabled, as the Washington Post reports, and not entirely destroyed after strike number one, the order to strike again would be entirely legal. Caroline Levitt from yesterday's briefing reading a prepared statement moments after denying that the order for the second strike came directly from Secretary Hegseth. President Trump and Secretary Hegseth have made it clear that presidentially designated narco-terrorist groups are subject to lethal targeting in accordance with the laws of war. With respect to the strikes in question on September 2nd, Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes.
3:42Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law, directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated. And I would just add one more point to remind the American public why these lethal strikes are taking place. Because this administration has designated these narco-terrorists as foreign terrorist organizations. The president has a right to take them out if they are threatening the United States of America and if they are bringing illegal narcotics that are killing our citizens at a record rate, which is what they are doing.
4:15And under the previous administration, there was enough fentanyl trafficked into our country to kill every American man, woman, and child many times over. Levitt saying Admiral Bradley ordered the second strike, but stopping short of addressing whether it was intended specifically to kill survivors. The Post initially reporting four strikes total on the boat, two to kill everyone, and two more to fully sink the wreckage. The topic consuming about half of the briefing, with intense focus on the nature of the order itself. So was the initial order from Secretary Hague said everyone be killed and did that come from President Trump?
4:53I saw that quoted in a Washington Post story. I would reject that the Secretary of War ever said that. However, the President has made it quite clear that if narco-terrorists, again, are trafficking illegal drugs towards the United States, he has the authority to kill them. And that's what this administration is doing. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries reacting bluntly at a press conference. The White House is lying, but that's no surprise because they lie for a living and the American people know it. The House and Senate Armed Services Committees, led by Republicans, launching inquiries into the matter.
5:29Secretary Hegseth posting on social media yesterday evening, quote, Let's make one thing crystal clear. Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100 % support. I stand by him and the combat decisions he has made on the September 2nd mission and all others since. Also yesterday, President Trump meeting with his national security team in the Oval to discuss Venezuela. CNN reporting Secretary Hegseth, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Raisin-Kane, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, and Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, among those in attendance.
6:07The president ramping up pressure on Venezuela in recent weeks as part of a campaign to crack down on cartels trafficking drugs into the U.S. U.S. military ships and troops amassing in the region. Last week, President Trump saying operations to halt trafficking via land routes would begin very soon. On Saturday, President Trump posting to Truth Social, quote, To all airlines, pilots, drug dealers, and human traffickers, please consider the airspace above and surrounding Venezuela to be closed in its entirety, leaving many to wonder if U.S. intervention is imminent. On Sunday, President Trump confirming he had recently spoken to President Maduro.
6:47The New York Times reported that you had a phone call with Maduro. Did you? I don't want to comment on it. The answer is yes. And can you tell us a little bit about it? No, I can't do that. Did you say it went well? I wouldn't say it went well or badly. It was a phone call. Last week, the administration designating President Maduro as the head of a foreign terrorist organization, saying he and other members of his government head the Cartel de los Solis, a step U.S. officials say provides wider legal authority to conduct operations inside Venezuela. Coming up, a new report goes after FBI Director Cash Patel.
7:25Director Patel responds on the record to AM Update. And accused murderer Luigi Mangione is in court seeking the dismissal of critical pieces of evidence.
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9:25Another source saying the director, quote, lacks the requisite experience to be FBI director. Divine posting on X yesterday that, quote, for those claiming this report is from a bunch of disgruntled FBI staffers who don't like change or are salty ex-FBI critics of Cash and Dan, you're wrong. It's from an alliance of patriotic operational insiders opposed to the abuses and corruption of the FBI, which accelerated under Joe Biden. AM Update spoke exclusively with Director Patel about the report, who rejected that characterization, dismissing the report as a, quote, dossier compiled by anonymous, disgruntled sources, end quote, whom he argued do not know what they're talking about.
10:08He scoffed at the notion that the FBI is, quote, rudderless, pointing out that under his leadership, the Bureau has made almost 30 ,000 arrests this year, a 100 % increase from 2024. 25 ,000 of those for violent crimes, including over 100 MS-13 gang members and 200-plus Trenda Aragua members. 6 ,000 missing children have been found, a 22 % increase over last year. 1 ,700 child predators have been arrested. That's up 10 % from last year. Human trafficking arrests are up 15 % from last year. Domestic terrorism arrests, up 30%. 1 ,900 kilos of fentanyl have been seized. That's enough to kill 127 million Americans.
10:54Four of the top 10 most wanted criminals in the U.S. have been nabbed under his leadership. That's the same number President Biden's FBI arrested over four years. In short, Director Patel maintains, the numbers speak for themselves. This FBI is succeeding beyond anyone's expectations. Director Patel also responding to allegations in the report of his alleged behavior around the Charlie Kirk murder. We will have that piece of the story for you on the MK Show later today. Last week, MS Now reporting three unnamed sources saying President Trump is considering removing Director Patel as top aides grow frustrated by the negative headlines.
11:34Caroline Levitt calling that report completely made up, with the president himself weighing in, saying of Patel, quote, I think he's doing a great job. Luigi Mangione in New York State Court yesterday for the start of a multi-day pretrial hearing, asking a judge to exclude evidence collected during his arrest last year. The defense arguing Mangione's rights were violated when cops searched his backpack and questioned him before obtaining a warrant and reading him his Miranda rights. 27-year-old Mangione accused of assassinating UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside of a Manhattan hotel on December 4, 2024.
12:13The brutal slaying captured on surveillance video, showing the suspect approaching Thompson from behind and opening fire at close range before fleeing. Thompson hid in the back and in the leg, dying from his injuries. Prosecutors say the words deny, delay, and depose were written on the ammunition, echoing a phrase used to describe how insurance companies dodge paying claims. They argue that they have a substantial body of evidence against Mangione, including video placing him at the scene of the shooting and a manifesto obtained from his backpack upon arrest. The attack leading to a five-day manhunt, cops arresting Mangione at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania, about 230 miles from Manhattan.
12:55Former prosecutor Joey Jackson on CNN explaining the rules governing police interrogations and the circumstances requiring Miranda warnings. Does the prosecution acknowledge they never told Mangione he has a right to remain silent? Indeed they do. But however, there are other arguments, even though they eventually did. But at the time that they were making an accusation towards him, if it's a custodial interrogation doesn't mean you're in cuffs. But if you're not free to leave and they're asking questions that could incriminate you, you have to give Miranda. However, if you're simply investigating a case and not really questioning him such that you're eliciting guilty statements, you don't.
13:34And so there's a fine line with respect to investigatory information being supplied and incriminatory, meaning you're looking for evidence to incriminate them. The police say we just needed to know what the lay of the land was. And that was the basis upon which we asked those questions. While cops were talking to Mangione, one officer searching his backpack, saying she wanted to ensure there, quote, wasn't a bomb or anything inside. Mangione's team arguing that statement was, quote, designed to cover up an illegal warrantless search of the backpack. In the bag, cops finding a loaded magazine, silencer, 3D printed gun, electronic devices, and a journal.
14:10According to court filings, Mangione's journal allegedly containing an entry reading, quote, I finally feel confident about what I will do. The target is insurance. It checks every box. Mangione faces life in prison on the state charges, which include second-degree murder in addition to multiple federal charges. And that'll do it for a raspy AM update. Thanks for bearing with me. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the MK Show. We have news to break. Let's see if I can actually do it. Live on SiriusXM's The Megan Kelly Channel, 111 at noon east on youtube.com slash megan kelly and on all podcast platforms
From the publisher
The White House faces mounting scrutiny over a second lethal strike on a suspected drug vessel, even as President Trump and his national security team escalate preparations for potential U.S. action in Venezuela. FBI Director Kash Patel is pushing back hard against a new negative report from anonymous agents in an AM Update exclusive. Accused killer Luigi Mangione is in a New York courtroom seeking to suppress key evidence, including items found in his backpack and statements made before Miranda warnings, in the assassination of UnitedHealth CEO Brian Thompson.
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