Lingering Sunny Hostin Questions, New Allegations Against Maine Dem, and Tom Brady's Thirst for Attention, with Ruthless | Ep. 1364

28:16We'll see. But here's my next question in this whole saga. Why is The Washington Post doing this article? To me, this has the stench of The New York Times, Lindsay Fyfield article about Plattner. Remember, The New York Times did basically a catch and kill on the worst of the Graham Plattner allegations. They did a whitewash. They chose a couple of allegations that they knew were not going to tank him and put those up. And they had spoken with the rape accuser, but allegedly couldn't get her to go on the record. And I heard them talking, the reporters talking about this on The Daily, the New York Times podcast.

28:55And they were saying we spoke with her. she just wouldn't go on the record with those accusations, which suggested they knew the accusations. They just couldn't convince her to go on the record, which I have to tell you, if you know that there is a serious rape accusation against somebody you're doing a Me Too piece on, and the only reason you can't print it is because the woman's not yet there, you know, where she'll say it on the record, the tone of your piece would normally sound very different from what the New York Times ultimately went with. So it was a catch and kill. It definitely had the feel of a catch and kill.

29:28And I just wonder, given that Mark Halperin tweet, whether the Washington Post may have just done something similar for, as you point out, the only candidate left, because it's not going to be Ashley Webb, who they land on. But she writes books. She's a songwriter. She's a songwriter. Yeah. Yeah. Can't wait to hear. You're probably you're probably most well equipped to explain journalism. Well, I think, Megan, I think you're exactly right. I think this it's it's an old tactic. Right. You mentioned The New York Times trying it in this exact same Senate race just a few months ago. But every single cycle, we see the same thing from these major papers and then some of the big broadcast networks.

30:14They have great ties into the Democratic Party. They want to boost those candidates because they're all Democrats. And this is it's a tactic that we've seen. I mean, we've worked in campaign politics for 20 years. Tale as old as time. But what's different now is the media environment. They used to control. And Michael Duncan touched on this just a few minutes ago. They used to absolutely control, start to finish the conversation about politics in this country. That's not the case anymore. There are shows like the Megyn Kelly show, shows like the Ruthless Variety program. So you get balance in media in a way that never happened 10 years ago within the course of our careers.

30:53And I don't think Democrats are equipped to figure out how to how to manage their candidates and their messaging in this new environment, because what was so easy for them for so long is now increasingly difficult. They can't pull the wool over everybody's eyes. And in the case of the state of Maine, you have to ask yourself, well, why has Susan Collins gotten elected over and over and over again? Well, she's done a pretty good job. I mean, all the Republicans and conservatives around the country find things to complain about with her voting record. But the people in Maine seem to like it. She's helping them outkick their coverage in the United States Senate.

31:34And this is a place where it's like Jessica Fletcher and Sheriff Amos Tupper. This is not a place where people are throwing water bottles at women. Murder, she wrote. Is that where you went with that? Well, that's exactly right. Maine is a wonderful place. With the name, first and last name of the Angela Lansbury character. What a deep track. That's the type of color you get on the Ruthless Variety program. That is next level. He's illustrating a good point. You look at somebody like Susan Collins, who's a very competent politician, and you're like, man, it always seems like she's trailing in the polling.

32:12I mean, look at the Sarah Gideon race last time where she was trailing throughout. Yeah, in 2020. And then won with margin in 2020. And the reason why is because there's parochial issues in a state like Maine. Whenever you have a rural small state, things like saving the lobster industry or like shipyard jobs, things like that, that don't make the front page of any newspaper, delivering on stuff like that is huge. And that's why Susan Collins has been so successful. Yeah, she's been a perfect ideological fit for Maine. And of course, that's not an ideological fit for all of conservative America by any stretch of the imagination.

32:49But she's always done things the right way by her constituents. And - Yeah, Maine is not Mississippi. Right. And then you contrast that with this clown show. And it's like, I don't know, does he beat women? Does he not beat women? The other guy is accused of raping women. Like, really? Are we having this conversation? At the table. The table to the floor. Okay? Just stop. I mean, you guys are the political experts, but my guess is like, when you were explaining, the bottle hit the table. Not the lady at whom he was yelling an inch from her face. That's not a win. You're on quicksand, my brother.

33:27Like, this is not a great place to be. And let me tell you something else about that New York Times catch and kill on Graham Plattner. It didn't work. Why didn't it work? Because the main woman whose story they effectively buried and downplayed was pissed. She felt like she was lied to by the Times. So did Lindsay Fifield, who was told she was going to be a bit player in the Times' piece. And she wound up being the center of it. and they dismissed her, all of the left and basically the Times too, as a conservative operative, which she knew was going to happen. I mean, she's such a, she hates liberals so badly.

34:06Why was she sleeping with Graham Plattner? You know, it's like, that doesn't make sense. Right. But, but okay, whatever. Right. So, but it didn't work because the women were pissed at how the Times handled it and they would not be shut up. And let me tell you, I am really wondering whether the three women highlighted in this Washington Post article who are on the wrong side of this Troy Jackson are going to be OK with how those incidents were portrayed. The table. OK, was it the table or did it hit this actual woman who if it hit? What's her name? Heather Sanborn. I bet we're going to find out about it.

34:44If the first black woman elected to the main legislator, legislature, House Speaker Rachel Talbot Ross has been misrepresented and he really was in her face. I bet we're going to hear about it. And then there was that other one who he got in the face of like, I just think this isn't going to do it. You can't, you really can't catch and kill anymore. Like people have figured it out, so they won't be silenced. So I'm looking forward to part two. The one thing that you can bet your bottom dollar on though, Megan, is that there are democratic operatives crawling all over the inboxes of those three women that you just discussed, ensuring that they will never work in democratic politics again, if they try to surface any of that, right?

35:24And, well, that kind of gets to be risky business, too, because if they go forward, they're not only going forward with the reality that they experience, but also the intimidation that they experience to not tell the story. So I think you're right. I think it's extremely difficult to keep reality out of the lens of politics these days, and thank God for it. Well, notwithstanding the best efforts of Ashley Webb, who very much tried to keep reality out of the lens. We're using that term so loosely. Ashley Webb, for those who aren't aware, is, I think, Jack. Jack Webb was the original name, if I am correct.

36:07This person ran for office in New Hampshire and lost and now goes by Ashley. and wants us, even though it's literally Meatloaf reincarnated, wants us to believe that he is a she. He looks just like Meatloaf. Holmes, back me up. I would do anything for love, but I won't do that. No, no, no, I won't do that. Oh, he did it. He did it all right. And here's a little from Ashley Webb's latest. This was a podcast. This was recent. Wasn't it recent, you guys, where he sat down with a Ph.D. named Amethystaharic? This wasn't like part of the Reddit days when he was posting about how he's getting his period out his ass.

37:00This was this week.

37:07That one nearly broke me. it posted on sunday okay listen so the the idea then that um you had ovaries but um or you have ovaries i suppose they were they were generating estrogen but um but not necessarily ovulating oh i'm i don't know about the ovulation i'm because i do get symptoms too that well i was until I went on the estrogen patch, which went away completely. I would feel really good on the 15th day of every cycle. It was a 29-day cycle that I was experiencing. I mean, this sounds pretty

37:55cycly there. Why are you not cycly? Go ahead. During that time, I also leak a mucus, which they can't really explain. Oh, Megan, why? Why? Interesting. Oh, God, I could have gone my whole life without hearing any of that. What have you done? Oh, she does this to us. She does it on purpose. I warned you at the top of the show. She does it on purpose. You were given a trigger warning before we got rolling, Holmes. Oh. Oh. Smug is the only smart one. That guy. Couldn't make it today. Just horrific recitation of the birds and the bees from those two. I just think if you think you're getting your period out of your ass, you should probably see a proctologist.

38:46Yeah, it strikes me as a good time for a colonoscopy. It should be a deal breaker. Maybe a test for colon cancer. No, he did. He went to a colonoscopy doctor, or I don't know, an OBGYN maybe. He went to some doctor and said, I'm bleeding out my ass because of my period. and then he complained that they gave him a colonoscopy. It was misogyny. Basic biology. Those are different roadways. Just to put it plain, those are different roadways. I mean, like. He would produce a mucus. Oh, come on, come on. He produced a...

39:27I need that like men in black pen that they push and you're like erase. Come on, come on. I've never seen, I've never seen Holmes so disturbed. Okay, wait, let's check out sound bite number five. I don't think this one is quite as bad. It's not quite as bad. Let's watch five. You want to call yourself transgender despite not necessarily knowing what all parts are inside? Well, I mean, the doctors gave me the label and I want to keep it because even if I'm intersex, like the intersex community pretty much tossed me out and didn't want to talk to me. Oh. Any story there you want to finish with? I had ovaries and possibly a uterus.

40:18and I was asking them, like, I have these CAT scans. Can you take a look? And, you know, tell me what you think. And I guess it annoyed them, so they kicked me out. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, good welcoming community. Thanks. Greatest community welcomed me without any issues. Wait, hold on. This person is getting CAT scans and sharing it with public interest groups? Like, hey, what? Dude, this is this. And the intersex community was not convinced, Holmes. They saw no ovaries and no uterus. They only saw mucus and they said, you're you're TG. You're you're not intersex. You're a TG. Out you go. This poor guy can't find acceptance anywhere.

40:57Not in the intersex community, not with women, not with main voters, because just before we came to air, he announced he's bailing. He, too, has finally accepted reality that the very, very pro woman Troy Jackson will be the Democratic nominee to take on Susan Collins. And he's out. He's officially out. I don't think they're sending her best. What does it tell you about the state of our politics that that character made it further, including onto a debate stage in the main Democratic Party, than they could make it with the intersex community? The intersex community had better judgment than the main Democrat Party.

41:39It's true. It's true. They smell the rat immediately. they allowed this guy on stage to debate. Did you see that? Because last Saturday they had their like kind of pre-nominating thing where Troy Jackson basically emerged as the winner. And then by Sunday night, the four other like serious candidates had dropped out. Ashley was like, hell no. And so this upcoming weekend is the official, okay, Troy Jackson's our nominee. But they allowed that Ashley Webb to join the others on stage and debate. And I suppose they're they're going to they're proud of this, I guess. They they think this is a badge of honor.

42:18They think this is going to reel in more people to their party. Like, again, like we've talked about this on the show. Many, many voters are not thrilled with the economy. Right. And they're holding against President Trump and will likely hold it against Republicans come the midterms. And they're thinking, I can't I'm not going to vote for these guys. They didn't do. Whoa. Whoa. Never mind. I'm staying. I'm going to stay right. right no i am not meandering over to team blue i think you put your finger on a very interesting distinction i mean you look at the wave elections 94 uh 2006 2010 to a certain extent 2018 to a certain extent all of these midterm elections that have become incredibly difficult for parties in power have an opposition that has solidified at least if not a majority of a plurality in terms of their overall favorability for the party.

43:12Democrats are in the opposite situation where there's a huge majority of Americans that disapprove of everything in the country right now. And President Trump, obviously, by running the country and Republicans being in charge, a good attack for that. But Democrats, by virtue of what they've gone through in this primary cycle and introducing us to the communists that live amongst us, and then folks like that, have done more to degrade their brand further than any of those previous election cycles. And so, you know, ultimately, what Democrats want to do is make this a referendum on President Trump, and any anxiety that you have about Iran, the economy, anything else is just you have to vote Democrat because there's no other way.

43:57Where it's likely to be a little bit more of is a choice in some of these elections, certainly in Maine, I think is going to be a choice election. And that, Democrats really have a difficult sale to make to voters because they're weird. They're not in line. Yeah, they're weird. They're not in line with the vast majority of voters in a midterm election. And I don't think that at this point there's anything they can do to resuscitate that image. They just have to hope that it gets so bad for Republicans that people are either they don't vote or they just protest ballot and they don't even take a look at the candidates at all.

44:35I'd love to meet the guy who was like, the answer is to put Ashley Webb on stage. I mean, truly, like, that's how far gone they are, right? That they actually do think that that's a good idea and that's going to make them seem accepting and like, you know, the kinder, gentler party. You You see, we love everyone. It's like, again, I don't need to reference this a third time, but that guy has so many issues. This is not about showing kindness. This is about keeping a true freak off the stage as not representative of your party or your goals or policies or ideals. It seems like every single Democrat running for office, no matter where they are, is somehow running for president of California.

45:15You know, like in 2006, you mentioned, I mean, that was a very, very difficult midterm cycle for Republicans. And why were Democrats so successful? Because they were focused on fixing Washington. You had a lot of Democrats out there saying, you know what, the party in charge, the Republicans aren't doing enough on border security. They were touching on issues that your average voter actually cared about. And so they were very successful. And today, they are all talking about issues that their donors in California and some parts of Manhattan care about, and they're missing the boat. And it's why they won't succeed as much as they could, and it's why it's not a referendum.

45:54It's a choice. They're actually the ones who need it to be a referendum, to your point, but they're the ones who are also making this a choice just by virtue of their stupid positions. So I want to tell you something sad and something interesting. First, something sad. Back to Katie Porter. I'm just going to give you one soundbite. It could be the last time we ever get to watch it. Here's Soundbite 60. That we're going to lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems. And the state could lose. Get out of my fucking shot. It's not that it's electric vehicles.

46:37It's that if we don't make the commitments, I mean, the Paris climate accord. Okay. It does. Okay. You also were in my shot before that. Stay out of my shot. Okay. I'm going to start again with electric vehicles saving us money. Perfect. Yes!

46:57I mean, now we're sorry we gave her such a hard time over that clip because today in an interview with a Sacramento Bee, quote I am closing the door on being a candidate I cannot foresee that path back she's done and she says she's now going to use one of her two social media accounts to discuss a different passion books hi it's Katie Porter with a non-political post I'm done for now with politics and campaigning, but one thing that's always been a constant from when I was a little kid to now is to love to read and taking a lot of solace and heart and joy, pleasure in reading. So I'm rebranding this account as Katie Porter Turns the Page.

47:49It's partly a reference to a new chapter in my life, to the change, but also to something I do a lot, which is turn the page when I'm reading. I'm a fast reader, and so stay tuned for book recommendations, book ideas, and author content. Thanks so much. She's now going to be a bookworm? I like books. A book club head? I don't know, but can you imagine if you disagree with her take on, you know, like little women or sense and sensibility? I have some recommendations for her new book group. Oh. Anger Management Book. How to Win Friends and Influence People. Joe Carnegie. Well, it's a real shame.

48:38The power of positive thinking. Yeah, there we go. It's a real shame because it's such a bull market for these abusive, unattractive menaces that are political candidates out there. I mean, she's missing the boat. Her party loves them. Right. Look at Troy. Katie, move to Maine. Maybe that's the problem. She was in California. She should be in Maine. I'm sad that she's leaving. But here's the interesting news, which is AOC to Politico yesterday in a headline I missed says, quote, are you are you running for president? Quote, I can't say I've ruled it out. Yeah, that is the closest she's come. She's always played it down.

49:21She's refused to answer. She's dodged, gotten out of bounds. That's the closest she's ever come to saying, yeah, I might or yeah, I will. So what do you make of that? What does that tell us, guys? Yeah, I mean, we've been saying this for, I don't know, six, eight months, that one, she's definitely running for president. Two, she is the heir apparent to the Bernie movement, which, if not for Democratic shenanigans, probably won in 2016, certainly had huge influence before Democrat shenanigans in 2020. And then it basically operated the entire ideological policy agenda of the Biden administration as a concession to get him into office.

49:57So she's the heir apparent to all of that. But I also will say this. As dumb as she comes off to people, reasonable people, and her ahistorical sort of ridiculous conception of what America is notwithstanding, she's got real talent. And she does have EQ. And if you notice what she's doing where she has colleagues that are sort of running themselves into these long term meat grinders, she's avoiding them a bit. And so she would not endorse Plattner. Yeah, I would caution people who just easily hand wave AOC away and say that she's not a serious candidate. She's a deadly serious candidate. There was also the story in Axios a couple days ago, I don't know if you guys saw it, where they were drawing parallels between some of her recent rhetoric and Barack Obama's rhetoric.

50:48We played the soundbites yesterday. Yeah, so she is studious about maintaining this image as a potential bridge builder for her party, recognizing the fact that her party is as divided as hell. You've got the radical communists on one side and then you have the old school Democrats who are trying to get elected on the other side. and she is presenting herself as a potential bridge to pull those two sides together. You can see her working to try to make this happen. There was one other quote from AOC that I saw yesterday that I thought it was pretty instructive to this dynamic where she's trying to triangulate between the Bernie Sanders wing and your sort of run-of-the-mill Democrat.

51:30They were talking about the DSA and she said, you know, growing up, I didn't come from a militant leftist family. I came from a working class family. And I thought that, oh, that's interesting. It's an interesting repaint. You didn't really come from a family that leaned into its Hispanic background either, Sandy. There's a lot about her background. She didn't. All of that is true, but now she's a made woman in DSA politics. And so you can get away with some of that stuff, much as Barack Obama was a Exactly. Just yesterday saying I'd endorse her for anything. I think she'd be good at anything.

52:05So that's, you know, DSA in chief. And yeah, I think I like that plan for her. I don't want AOC to be president, but I like it as a political positioning for her that I can bridge that gap. She probably could. I don't know who the real AOC is. I have no idea. Her name is Sandy and she grew up in Westchester, but it's a good opportunity for her. And I have to say, in the 10 seconds left, you know, it would have been an amazing match at the presidential contest level. AOC versus Charlie Kirk. He was too young to have run, but eventually he would have gotten there. And that I would have liked to have seen.

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54:49back with me now the fellas from the rootless variety program holmes duncan and ashbrook are all here smug had a personal situation to deal with and we wish him very well um okay guys while we're on politics, two items we've got to get to. The first is funny and the second is great. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton still together after all these years. They jetted off to Europe for a summer vacation. And I just want to show you the tape because they just look like the perfect lovebirds. I mean, you can see that they're keeping the flame alive. There she is, dressed like the Hamburglar. meandering the streets of Italy, I think.

55:34And where's Bill? I'm sure he's here somewhere. Oh, okay. His hat looks MAGA adjacent. His shirt looks like it needs another button up top, fellas. And if you can see the pants, I'm not sure why they're so short, but he's got the ankles, the naked ankle thing going that some of the hipster young guys do these days. The interesting thing is there is about 20 feet between the two of them. Clearly still nothing to do with one another. Very interesting. I don't know what goes on in that weird marriage, Holmes, but I love watching it from afar. You know, he's got the shirt on button. He's got the tight jeans, the ankle roll.

56:16He's trying to attract the Italian women, if you ask me. The man's not out of the game yet. Oh, he's still a young troubadour. Still got some gas in the tank. What about her? You don't think Hamburglar is attractive to the young Italian men? You know what? I'm just glad, Megan, that they didn't try to recreate that picture of them dancing in their swimming suits right after the Paula Jones scandal back in the 90s. Remember the one that was on every tabloid front page trying to show that their marriage was strong? No, I remember Paula. I don't remember those two. And the swimsuits? Oh, yeah. Don't Google it.

56:51You don't want to Google it. It's like the main Senate race. Yeah. No. No, thank you. So that, you know, tip of the cap to them together after all these years. I do think, Megan, can I just say, the MAGA adjacent hat is very interesting to me because in 2024, I think we all remember when Bill Clinton was on the stump in Georgia talking about how important it was that Democrats start talking about the border again. And all the lefties were like, how dare you say that? That's off message. You can't say it. But he put 42 on his hat. I really think that there are some aspects to Trump that Clinton secretly admires.

57:34I believe this. That's a fascinating theory. I believe it because Trump is a moderate. Trump is not at all the crazy figure that the media portrays him to be. And I'll bet you, I mean, Clinton was never one of the, he probably hates the DSA. He probably hated the open border. He was a more moderate Dem. Yeah, for sure. And we were just talking about AOC and her pathway to the White House. It was Bill Clinton's political advisor last week, Jim Carville, who said it's not going to happen. She'll never get there. So if those guys still have hive mind in some level, they don't like the left wing lurch of that party.

58:13Oh, that's interesting. I wonder if he's telegraphing a message there like, you know, you can be MAGA adjacent and that might be preferable. It might be a better way to run for office as a dem than far left, you know, get rid of the U.S. Senate, get rid of the Pentagon, get rid of police, get rid of prisons, all that mania, which is not me being unfair to them. That's actually the DSA's platform. OK, the second item is about Joe Biden. He is still to this moment fighting to stop the release of the audios, the audio recordings from his interview with Robert Herr, the special counsel who is investigating whether he shared classified information inappropriately with his ghostwriter or the co-writer, whatever, on his book.

59:02And Robert Heard found that he had. He had done that, but that he was not going to prosecute him because he was a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. And that's how a jury would see him. They wouldn't want to punish him. Well, the interview, the transcript had been made public. We have read from it extensively. I'm sure you guys have as well. And there's been a push by this one group to get the actual audio, which exists, released. And he has been fighting it. He and his team do not want that out. Now that he's not even in office, it's truly like, well, what's the point? The point is he doesn't want us to know with our ears how bad he was.

59:43It's yet another piece of evidence that puts the lie to the lies we were told by the media and his team for all those years. So what's happened now is a federal appeals court, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, has rejected a request by Biden to block the release of audio recordings and transcripts of interviews he did with a memoir ghostwriter prior to being elected president. The three judge panel from the D.C. Circuit suspended its decision on the matter until until August 3rd to allow Biden more time to consider another appeal. So he can do one of two things. is he can ask for an en banc review, like every judge on the D.C.

1:00:16Circuit to come together and review this, or you can go right to the Supreme Court and ask them for a review. Neither one's going to pan out for him. But here is what the two-judge majority said. We conclude that any remaining incursion on personal privacy from disclosure of the now-redacted materials likely does not outweigh the public interest in disclosure. So this, it looks like, guys, is going to come out. And I wonder if you're a Democrat, if you're thinking, just let it come out now. Just let, like, just look at, July is better than mid-August, right? Like the closer we get to midterms, the worse it is.

1:00:57And maybe like if he petitions for an en banc review, that'll get us through probably till September 3rd. Now we're even closer. Whatever body he petitions next is going to say no. And they're going to say no quickly. But the longer he delays this, the more it's going to hurt when it comes out, because the audio is probably coming out and we're all going to feast on it. And I'm sure the party, which would much prefer at this point, he just roll over and take his licks on July 21st as opposed to October 31st. Yeah, I think that's entirely right. I mean, the problem is that it completely eviscerates the credibility of just about every Democrat in Washington, D.C.

1:01:35and the her saga in and of itself is a perfect reminder to the american people just what the democrat establishment is capable of here's a guy that goes in with full intent of prosecuting a sitting president of the united states for keeping classified information and his conclusion is i can't i can't prosecute him because he doesn't know what he's doing he's a invalid essentially and that comes out in the entirety of the democratic party its mouthpieces in the media the folks like the pod bros everyone just assails her because like this is he's doing the magas bidding basically making this guy uh into something that he's not and then like four five six months short months later the american people are treated to exactly what her was behind closed doors and can see this on a debate stage and realize that all along, every single Democrat was willing to lie to your face in the blind pursuit of power.

1:02:38That is a very troubling thing as you enter a midterm election. Yeah. And I think like at a base level, the tapes need to come out for, you need to restore the character and reputation of her himself because of the way that the Democrats assailed him. It was entirely unfair. Why the Biden team is trying to suppress his information? I mean, I guess it's embarrassment. But at this point, dude, they forced you off the ticket. You were the sitting president of the United States. Whatever you said on that tape, unless it's like I actually did more crimes you're not prosecuting me for. Remember, Duncan, he couldn't remember the year in which Bo died.

1:03:22But we already kind of knew that, right? We don't have the proof of that. But, I mean, man, they forced you off the ticket, and then you guys lost to Donald Trump again. Like, pull the Band-Aid off. He couldn't remember the year he was vice president. Remember? That was one of the other. He was like, what year was I vice president again? I mean, this guy— But, Megan, this guy— It's not great. This guy went to a memorial service for a congresswoman from Indiana and introduced the dead woman on stage. I mean we knew all night. You know what I mean? Like all of this was very public for anybody who is interested in listening to it, but those liberal ecosystem sort of media information flow folks just kept holding on and lying to the American people Well, it's going to come out.

1:04:11I have no doubt of that. There's no privacy interest that justifies keeping this confidential at this point. So, you know, buckle up, boys. Okay, we talked yesterday on this program about the Sonny Hostin debacle. And you guys are always saying, you know, you only see the view clips when you come on this program. And here we have a massive view story. And you were ready for it. When this broke, the guys at the Ruthless Variety Program were ready for it because of all the view clips you've been subjected to by our show. So Sonny Hostin in this latest incident. Do you guys know the story? Yeah. Okay, yes, our son, who's 24 years old, and she'd really, really want you to know, a Harvard grad, got stopped by police because he was at a rail yard in, I believe, New Rochelle of Westchester County.

1:05:04And he said he was jogging, and they said, that's not allowed, this is private property, you're trespassing. And he called her. He called her. I mean, a lot of my viewers yesterday were like, OK, what 24 year old man calls his mommy when he has an incident involving police officers, if she's a former federal prosecutor or not? He's not getting arrested for murder. You know, it's like you're you're going to get a citation for trespass. Why did you call your mommy? It's a fair question. I got to be honest. But whatever he did. If my son called me at any age, I'd go. I'd help him. But it was her hypocrisy that was so rank to me and to a lot of the audience as well.

1:05:48Just she's constantly railing about white privilege and just how these elite circles of these evil white Republicans don't allow people like her into them. And she's worried the cops are evil and they're going to she was her son's a runner. And she was very worried he was going to get arrested for no reason in Westchester as he was doing his running. That's how it happened. Actually, what happened is your son violated the law and very polite police officers actually downgraded what he did to just a citation so they wouldn't get in more trouble than he was actually in. I mean, oh, the irony. But now we actually went back and we found Sonny Hostin.

1:06:26It was very interesting talking about the J-6 pardons that Trump issued. And don't forget, yes, there were some who assaulted cops and that was very controversial for that pardon. But the vast majority of the people on J6 were just trespassing. They were just crossing into a property, which most of them didn't even didn't even know that they couldn't go in there. A lot of them were waved in and she had no empathy for them whatsoever. OK, she did not make that distinction in her coverage on The View. But here she was talking in particular, I think, about the cops and and pardons and trespass. Listen here.

1:07:03I was particularly, you know, as a former federal prosecutor, struck by the fact that he would pardon over 1 ,500 people, especially those that were violent towards law enforcement officers. When you are a prosecutor, you don't only prosecute someone because they've committed a crime. You also prosecute someone so that you send a message to society that this type of behavior is unacceptable in our society.

1:07:30you know i always wondered where the big crime wave came from over the last 10 years but then i learned sonny hostin was a prosecutor so what do you make of it because here she is i'll just give it to the audience who's listening now that might not know but here she is again on the scene making sure they know she's a former federal prosecutor and the son went to harvard i think 36.

1:08:27I think I was walking over there and there was some, I was about to show it. I had a big interview today and we're talking about it. She got it all in. Got it all in. I'm a former federal prosecutor. He went to Harvard. In case you missed it, I'm on TV. I had a big interview today. We're all talking about, everyone's talking about my big interview. She played every privileged card she could. And in the other clip, she also mentions that he's now a Yale researcher and then teaches fourth graders. All of it. What happened to the important thing about not letting somebody off from a crime they've allegedly committing committed is sending a message to all the other would be in this case trespassers.

1:09:12And you heard there she mentioned 1500 people have been pardoned and she didn't say like, OK, I can give you the ones who just trespassed. She had no problem with those people going to jail or being punished disproportionately, by the way, in the criminal justice. None whatsoever. No sympathy whatsoever. But Harvard's son, he needs to go away. He needs to be exempted from going away because he's her son, guys. Harvard, Yale, former federal prosecutor on TV with a big interview. You see how the thing works? Yeah. Has there ever been a bigger own goal in the history of politics than the left wing lunatics demanding body cams on police officers?

1:09:53You know, because they would have the American people believe that every police officer is some racist, bloodthirsty lunatic trying to shoot black people. And every time we see the body cam footage, you always are greeted by these police officers who are nothing but polite and are just trying to deescalate a situation here. You know, so like that is always what struck me as the funniest part of all of these things is like BLM. And in 2020, with the George Floyd protests and everything, they made you think that there was a genocide against black people in this country. And now all these years later, the American people have seen so much body cam footage.

1:10:33it's like, you know what, maybe it's the left-wing lunatics who are the problem not the police officers. That's really well said. By the way, you know who they interviewed on June 16th? J.D. Vance. So she was clearly trying to play up I'm an important person big interview today everyone's talking about it I mean, how disgusting is she? She was trying to play the view card there I'm a TV person I do interviews and everyone knows me. And my kid, this kid, this 24-year-old man, you know, he's never been in trouble before. Okay, that's fine. You can say he'd never been in trouble before. The Harvard-Yale thing was hit repeatedly because of her privilege.

1:11:19Honestly, she's so blind to the fact that she's swimming in it. She's dripping with it. It's coming out of her eyeballs, her privilege. All she can see is the white privilege that she finds everywhere, including the neighborhood she chose to move to right before she told the world they were a bunch of racists who are probably going to target her son with a phone call just because he was running while black. Yeah, no, I mean, it goes to your point, Duncan. You can only imagine what that story would have looked like if there was not body cam footage, right? That would have been a feature on The View for quite some time.

1:11:54That's a great point, though. I think you really hit the nail on the head here, Megan, in that what I've come to realize is the folks who talk the most about privilege are the people who are most interested in exercising extrajudicial privilege when they have it. It's this misconception of society itself that your place within it makes you above or below the law in some way. And I feel badly for people who think this way because it doesn't, and it shouldn't. But people like Sonny Hostin who have said, you know, there's white privilege, class privilege, any kind of privilege, everyone else, as long as I disagree with their politics, is subjected to their privilege.

1:12:34But I'm going to use it like a MO when I have that opportunity. And I'm going to drop the full resume on you. I'll do the federal prosecutor. I'll do the view. I'll do, you know, Harvard, Yale. I'll do all of that stuff when it suits me and my family. Yep, exactly. Like one of those fourth grade boys from, you know, one of the boroughs that he's allegedly tutoring. If they'd been caught, if let's say it's like their 13 year older brother who got caught on those railroad tracks by himself, who didn't have a former federal prosecutor view host mom to call those cops, they probably would have just given them the citation, whatever, and they would have been in the criminal justice system.

1:13:14Her son got off with a lesser penalty because it was going to be a misdemeanor because they were being nice. They were being nice to him because she played so many cards, but she'll never admit that, right? She's pissed. You can tell she's angry at the cops. And you're right. If there hadn't been a body cam, who knows what she would have been alleging. And by the way, I've had more than one person raise with me privately. What was the son actually doing there? Do we do we fully accept that he was just jogging in the rail yard? Because I will say it's a little odd. I lived in Westchester, not far from New Rochelle for a couple of years.

1:13:52It's a beautiful, beautiful county. There are so many places you can run rather than a dilapidated rail yard. It's a little strange. And even Link Lauren, who's not like, she's not all that provocative on issues like this. He was raising something about this yesterday. I'll play it here in SOT32. We've acquired these pictures of where he was allegedly out running, but then I think he said he was walking. It says private property, no trespassing. This looks like a sketchy area. Something is not adding up to me, and I know you guys are going to agree with me. Look, we have taken stills of where he said he was out walking at 8 p.m.

1:14:35and a wife beater in this weird area by the train tracks. Now, there are gorgeous neighborhoods, gorgeous neighborhoods in this town. Why are you out behind a warehouse in this industrial area by the train tracks at sunset where there's alleged drug and other criminal activity. So much so that the police came in droves to the scene of the crime. And we have this diagram we put up on here. You can look at this diagram, right? Where the cops stop him, where you have the no trespassing sign, where they meet the officers and we have the body cam footage. Something isn't adding up to me. I think she knows more than she's letting on.

1:15:15that's interesting that is interesting interesting yeah i mean like let me ask you this guys yeah if this had been um i don't know pick your like don trump jr or baron trump um when he was just a candidate and he was running trump senior do you think the media might follow up i think we'd probably get to the bottom without a doubt megan and you know i was sitting here listening to the conversation and thinking all along like why the hell didn't you just pay the 200 fine or the go online and pay the, you know, put his credit card in for the$75 fine. It's 500 bucks. 500 bucks. Like everybody else who gets a ticket for something they shouldn't have been doing.

1:15:53But what Link was saying is interesting. Like maybe there is something more to this story that they don't want to let out. When I like to run, I have to tell you guys, my inbox is full of leads like that, that Link just asked of people like screenshotting and raising questions. They're not buying the full story. Go ahead, Duncan. Once I saw the pictures, everything's all sort of rusted out and everything then i got what you were saying megan because like if i go running you want to run in a nice place like a park somewhere without assault you know right like maybe like your neighborhood you don't pick out the rusted out place where you can get tetanus and be like i'd like to do physical activity here right but when we do all the drugs we do it in a rail yard have you guys seen sunny hostin's home i i've only seen it because she made me see it she put it public online because she wanted to show it off okay fine well these are her rules we'll go along with them this is her neighborhood in westchester we'll show it stand by look at this wow i i feel like i might jog in this neighborhood um without any qualms whatsoever it is a little weird nice backsplash um yeah you're you're in because he he jogged in westchester i don't know where he actually lives, but he jogged in Westchester, and I believe in the same town as mom.

1:17:13And this is mom's house. This is where he grew up. He was living there, whatever, I guess six years ago when he was an 18-year-old young man. And now he's a Harvard grad and choosing to run in some very, very seedy areas. So I do wonder as well, the whole thing reeks and exposes her, as so many of the stories have today of these Democrats as a hypocrite. She's just a hypocrite. You know, they say one thing and they do a different thing. It's rules for thee, but not for me. The view pays better than I thought they would. I mean, for a lightly attended show in the middle of the day. The Windsor family in England doesn't live in a house that night.

1:17:52You see the Tudor structure and everything? I mean, I feel like King Edward didn't have that. I think I saw three oven hoods. A three oven hood home? Well, you know, you're exhausting a lot of smoke in that situation. It's impressive to think about it. Okay, now, while we're talking about individual figures in the news, we got to touch on Tom Brady. I have been wondering about Tom Brady for a while. Because I noticed in my own just, you know, observation, he's overexposed. And it's a strange decision for someone that famous and talented and accomplished to need overexposure, to need the daily clicks as badly as he seems to.

1:18:43So I saw Dave Portnoy draw attention to this because Tom Brady did this stunt. I'll show it to you. He was he's doing something with Logan Paul on stage at a WWE event. And this was on July 17th where he slapped Logan Paul. Watch. Saw 29.

1:19:08OK,

1:19:13so that got all sorts of buzz and it was odd. I didn't know whether that was a stunt, you know, for clicks or real. Then came two days later, this at, actually, I don't know where it was, but it was the two of them once again. And it's Tom Brady give a World Cup giving Logan Paul the finger. Watch.

1:19:41Both people with the finger. Okay. Okay. Then came Barstool Sports and, well, Dave Portnoy with a commentary on what the hell they're doing. The very next, not what the hell Brady is doing the next day. It's top 25. Tom Brady chopping it up with Logan Paul. And they're doing, they're at the Fanatics thing. He hits them with a chair. Not good. They're at the World Cup game. He gives them the bird, Logan Paul. This, to me, is one of the great downfalls of an icon with Tom Brady. And the way he is acting post-retirement, it's a legacy that is being lamified. I use that word. People are like, what does that mean?

1:20:22It means he's becoming very lame. And it's a guy who very few athletes, Michael Jordan, Messi, Beckham, Gretzky, These are like superstars that seem so above the fray that you don't want to see him mixed up in all sorts of lowbrow, TikTok, flag football leagues in Saudi Arabia or whatever it is. The rest, everything about him is cringy right now to me. All right, so that's Portnoy. And I agree with Portnoy. He came on this show and we talked about Brady one time and he's, he's been ripping on him for a long time, but he's not wrong there. I had the same feeling like, what's he doing? And Jason Whitlock, who we love went on his podcast yesterday.

1:21:12I recommend listening to the whole thing. It's a great download. But he asked it this way. It was such a good line. I don't want to butcher it, but it was what, what does like a goat do, you know, greatest of all time. When the applause stops. I'm like, oh, that's good. He's so good. Chasen knows sports very well, but he's also a profound thinker. Here he is in part in SOT24. Michael Jordan understood something Tom Brady doesn't. Absence creates myth. After basketball, MJ didn't chase relevance. He withheld it. The Air Jordan brand does$6 billion a year. Jordan barely speaks publicly. When he does, it's an event.

1:21:59NBC paid Jordan, what, 60, 70 million dollars for one interview? One really boring, bad interview? The lesson? Jordan monetized his greatness by protecting it. He built an ecosystem that works while he stays silent. Scarcity is the strategy. Jordan doesn't need the camera. The camera needs Michael Jordan. That's power. Brady is doing the opposite. He's everywhere. The Fox booth, widely panned. The functional beverage hawking, the crypto entanglement, the roast, and now bits with influencers half his age. There's nothing wrong with a man making money. The question is, what's he trading for? so good question right what do you make of it i think they're exactly right i mean if you look at jordan is always the pinnacle he's always what any goat will be compared to because he's managed his image so well but also i mean look back in those 90s bulls teams right it was dennis rodman that was doing the wwe stuff and all that because you know dennis was married himself yeah right i because dennis that was his brand and he needed that to be relevant and then in the public conversation michael jordan didn't need that he didn't need it because he was the greatest of all time tom brady doesn't need any of this stuff i mean he is as accomplished as any professional athlete in our area you think tiger woods think michael jordan you know it and yet we're dealing with tick tock influencer i mean just putting him in the same room as logan paul's offensive to me let alone doing a bit where he's like kayfabing a wrestling match like this will end somewhere on some tiktok thing where they get 50 million dollars to throw a couple of fake punches and one of them goes down and it's like oh this is funny and and whatever it's not funny it's not funny when you're the greatest of all time you don't need that shit well as a colts fan it's not hard for me to find something to criticize tom brady about i mean this guy and his team when he was, you know, QB at the Patriots, broke my heart basically every year for about 10 years.

1:24:18But when you're hearing criticism from Dave Portnoy, who is a huge Patriots fan and a guy who made his career making content, I mean, he like knows the game better than anyone. People don't understand how smart he is. That's how you know it's gone too far. And like when you become the GOAT, whether you're Messi or Tom Brady or Wayne Gretzky, it becomes a relationship with the public. Like, in the same way that a former president of the United States wouldn't diminish themselves. Like Barack Obama. Right. Like Barack Obama has. Unlike his wife. Yeah. Or like, how kind of Tom Brady is now with the weird skits on TikTok.

1:24:58It diminishes the brand. And like, Woodlock's exactly right on the scarcity is a real commodity. It's the reason why diamonds are so expensive, right? You don't need to be out there every single day. When we put you up on that pedestal, we expect you to stay up there with some measure of unavailability. I agreed with how Jason put it. Like, if you're too available to us and, you know, we revered you, like nationwide, you, sure, some sports people didn't like Brady because for the reasons you just said, Duncan, but there was a begrudging respect no matter who you talk to. Nobody could make the case he wasn't a great football player or would take issue with his accomplishments.

1:25:36It's but he won't stay up. He refuses to stay up there. And I don't get it because Fox is paying him almost four hundred million dollars for his contract right now, not to mention all the hundreds of millions he made as a player with all of his endorsements and so on. He does not need the money. There is zero chance. And I got to say, Megan, as a football fan, he's great at that job. And he adds an element from having played quarterback to all of his commentary around the NFL games that gives you an insight behind the curtain into like how you read a defense and like what the quarterback should be doing here.

1:26:11He's gotten phenomenal at actually doing the job on Fox's football coverage. So like, okay, I have to I have to take issue with you because Doug Brunt would tell you he disagrees strongly. He does not like I love it. And I was skeptical. He's an Eagles fan, though. Yeah, right, right. We all have our biases as a Colts. I was late to the game on embracing Tom Brady in the booth. Let me tell you. But I have found a lot of value, particularly in the playoff stuff and everything. He did a great job. He's gotten a lot better. He has. Which makes sense. But the point is simply that he's gamefully employed.

1:26:47It's not like he shouldn't be bored. And he's got plenty of money in the bank. So why would you be doing influencer stunts? And here's what's interesting, Ashbrook. whitlock posits that everything started going south when he divorced giselle that when a man has a wife and a family to come home to every night they ground him in in the best sense and they give him something to strive for like the respect of that family the earned respect the values that you're trying to teach your children and as the head of that family like all the things that run through a man's mind when he goes off to work or, you know, sits down at his desk to work are no longer really motivating Tom Brady.

1:27:31He's like allegedly sleeping with Alex Earl or this other model or that model. He's, you know, from party to party, from red carpet event to red carpet event. And I do think for like a younger man in his 20s, that might sound very sexy. I think when you're what, 47? How old is he? He's right up there. Years old, 48. And you've lost the greatest supermodel in the world and full-time custody of your kids after a couple of years, which it's been now since they divorced and she's off with another great looking guy and just had a sweet baby boy with him. Maybe you start to realize you can't fill all these holes in you with another red carpet event or influencer stunt or yet another$1 ,000 ,000 ,000.

1:28:18There's only one way of filling it. And it actually does take the toiling work of building a family, being faithful, making your meals together, going to church on Sundays, all the stuff that your average American does in order to find happiness. Yeah, Whitlock is, his observations are always astute. And he has a way of conveying stuff in a very simple manner that I think everybody sort of digests and appreciates. I mean, I won't pretend to know what's going through Brady's mind, but I do know that if I went home every night and just scrolled TikTok and then woke up the next morning, I'd be like, well, where the hell did my night go?

1:28:55Because that wasn't worthwhile. I mean, you can easily see. Empty calories. It is. It is. And it's like, what's it for? Like, oh, another video. Oh, great. Oh, that person was fine. I mean, maybe you get a couple of laughs. There's value in having a couple of yucks. but like spending a lot of time on social media and tiktok it's just not yeah i mean let me take let me take a counterpoint on some of it uh oh uh look this is a guy who had everything and obviously we we mentioned the giselle thing and late in life he becomes america's most eligible bachelor handsome guy no question about that i got no problem with him running through every supermodel in the company.

1:29:36I really don't. Right? You would expect that. She left him with the yoga instructor for crying out loud. I'm not having the problem with it. The theory is that he is actually not enjoying that as much as he would have us believe. Well, maybe. But I also think that the other component of this is your representation. When you get to be that big of a deal, you're surrounded by teams of people that manage your image. And 100 percent. What What has happened to Tom Brady is he's got some element of his team that, for self-serving reasons, wants to book him on all of these things and wants to keep him relevant to younger audiences.

1:30:13Yes, that's a good point. They get paid. Because they get paid and they create those connections that they can use for other clients and other things and their own future, whatever. Totally, Holmes. And there's nobody sitting at top of Tom Brady Enterprises underneath Tom himself who is saying like, dude, this is the greatest quarterback of our generation. what in the hell are you doing putting him with a tiktok influencer who's like most noteworthy latest thing is fighting mike tyson when he's 65 years old like of course this is all joke and this is all ridiculous but nobody's managing that for him and i feel badly for him as a result he really is the greatest quarterback of his generation and he's getting totally underrepresented in my view well said i totally agree thank you for saying that because i was this morning i was like it's I bet it's the people around him who are just looking to cash in on every dollar he can make.

1:31:04And he can make an endless amount of them. So they're like, cash in, cash in. But this is not some NFL football player who played the first three-year contract of his life at$200 ,000 and then left. And you have to really capitalize on your fame for the two minutes you have it. Because you're not going to play football ever again. This is Tom Brady. And like Whitlock was saying, you don't see Messi doing this. Or was it Portnoy? You don't see Beckham doing this. Look at Novak Djokovic. He's, I think, I think he's, we can say he's the GOAT. Federer's right up there and Nadal's right up there. There's, you know, a whole collection that's like right under him.

1:31:40But if you just look at Grand Slams 1 and like tournaments 1, Djokovic is the GOAT. And he doesn't do this crap. You know what you see on Djokovic's social media? Him with his wife and his kids. That's, that's what you see. That's how he spends his time. And I will tell you, I know somebody who knew Tom and Giselle when they were married. And this person told me that Giselle very much wanted him to be a stay-at-home kind of spouse. Like, be with her in the evenings and be with the family. And that he was very interested in going out and being more of a party boy. And she's more of a traditional, you know, she's from Brazil.

1:32:19She's like, those women like their men to be more traditional, you know. And I'm sure she did want him to be home as head of household. Not like home never leaving, but like the default is we're all at home at night. And his default, according to this person, was he wanted to go out. He wanted a party. She didn't want it. And it drove a wedge between the two of them. And I just think that has such a limited short shelf life. You know, it's like you can't. I guarantee you he's having second thoughts about that divorce right now, especially as he sees this stunning woman with her sweet baby boy.

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1:36:48The fellas from the Ruthless Variety program are back with me now, guys. Do you remember Brooke Baldwin of Ciena? Oh, yeah. Blast from the past. yes okay so for years many many years i don't know well over a decade she was on cnn it was from 2008 to 2021 she was there she's 47 now she got fired by jeff zucker she wrote a whole thing in vanity fair about it um or at least that was picked up by vanity fair she might have been on her sub stack but she was she she felt it was very unceremoniously um dismissed from cnn a place that she'd worked for, you know, 13 years. She didn't think she deserved that kind of an exit.

1:37:30But Jeff Zucker is not a nice guy and didn't treat her well, according to her. Then she went on. She hosted some show on Netflix called The Trust in 2024. I don't know. I think it might have been sort of like The Mole. I'm not sure what it was, but it was short lived. It looked interesting, but I was glad to see her land on her feet. She's going a different way at the moment. she's writing on her sub stack and she's writing about all the casual sex she's been having. Come on. Of course you saved this for us, for our appearance on the show. Let's weigh in. Why should this hour be any different from any other?

1:38:17And she wants you to know that, But well, let me just cue it up with a clip from her latest posting because she went to Instagram after she did the post on her sub stack. And this is how that looked and sounded. Good morning. I just meditated and I feel so clear. And coming out of that, I just wanted to say a few things.

1:38:45about what I wrote about this weekend and about all of the people I've been hearing from, which has told me a couple of things. Clear from a lot of the men who are writing me that, first of all, a lot of y 'all shoot your shot, try and shoot your shot. God bless you. That wasn't the point of the piece. But a lot of you shared with me that you appreciated how open I was about talking about myself like that. And it made me realize that a lot of us women maybe don't feel as emboldened, empowered, as open in our bodies to the women who I know that read the piece that are going through their own journeys of awakening.

1:39:37And I mean that in all the ways, so am I. Do we ever really stop? But I feel like I've been on a huge, huge journey these last few years, and I'm really grateful for it. I see you. I wanted to write about it as it was all related to my work and my mission and God and my body. It's all connected. Okay, that's my TED Talk for the morning. Okay. Her work and her mission include banging four men in a month, one of whom from her piece, one of I mean, her her written piece, one of whom says he flew in just to take her to dinner and spends his days working to save democracy. One congressional district at a time.

1:40:21Yeah, she doesn't say who it is. We're smug again today.

1:40:28Outrageous. Perfect setup. Just kidding. Just kidding. Man, too. Two, one used to run a country. Man, three, one is just hot. Man, four, not described at all, which is, that's tough for that guy. She says some of the men now subscribe to her newsletter. Hi, fellas. So they're all reading about each other and Brooke Baldwin's journey of awakening. I mean, the self-help talk, the journeys of awakening, I see you, her gratitude, attitude, the music, like the weird spa music from like, I don't know, India, the overly therapized talk in there. You know, you can tell she spent a lot of years in therapy and the no makeup, you know, my work and my mission.

1:41:15It was like, OK, this let me just give you a look at what Brooke Baldwin was was doing like a couple of years ago. This is not ancient history. She used to be a serious news anchor. Yeah. This is Newtown, Connecticut, and this is the week the funerals begin. In fact, one is beginning just across the street. This is the only undertaker in this town of some 27 ,000 people. A son from her father's brief marriage with an American woman, Ann, whom he met while studying in the United States. Barack and Alma met for the very first time in person back in their 20s. She used to be a serious news anchor.

1:41:53And not only that, she used to really object to any sort of bawdy talk. Look what she did to poor Clay Travis, who said, I believe in the First Amendment and boobs. Sot 40. I'm a First Amendment absolutist. I believe in only two things completely. The First Amendment and boobs. And so once they made the decision that they were not going to allow a conservative, non-sports-related commentary, they couldn't do it either. Hold on, hold on. I just want to make sure I heard you correctly as a woman anchoring the show. Did you say, what did you say? You believe in the First Amendment and BWOBS? Boobs.

1:42:30Two things that have only never been down in this entire country's history. The First Amendment and boobs. So those are the only two things I believe in absolutely in the country. Jamel has absolutely nothing to do with the background at all. Did you notice that? He went straight to that. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I did go straight to that. Why do you even say that live on national television and with a female host? I say it live on the radio all the time because it's true and that's what I do. Because I like boobs and the First Amendment, which is exactly what I said. I'm done. I'm sorry.

1:43:03Have her anatomy brought up? To have anyone's anatomy brought up in this conversation? I'm done. This is done. This is conversation over. Yanking mics. Bye. See ya. Oh, man. Oh, man. It's a great moment of journalism right there. It's nice to hear a story every once in a while about some journalist who gets knocked down and then stays down and just puts their knees behind their ears.

1:43:31It seems like it's working out for us. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, word to the wise, anybody out there in the dating scene, if you happen to meet someone who talks incessantly about their inner peace, they have none of it. Totally true. You know, it's pretty good. Beware. Yeah, I just, the only thing I could think when I was watching her video was this seems an awful lot like the last episode of Mad Men when Jon Hamm goes off to California and he's becoming one with himself at some like yoga retreat center. And then the whole series ends after that. Yeah. Well, I would say, I mean, she can do what she wants and whatever, but I think she's been in a very toxic industry for a long, long time.

1:44:14I can relate. She had a divorce. Okay, that can be tough. She tried that one show that didn't work out, but that was a good swing and a miss. It's fine. It was a good swing. And I don't think this is the way out of the funk, Brooke. I do not think this is the way. I actually think if that continues, you're only going to dig a deeper hole for yourself and you deserve better. That's my own two cents on it. Unasked for, unsolicited, but from the heart, one newswoman to another, I hope. Fellas, thank you very much for being here. Great to see you. Lots of love. And we will see you guys tomorrow for Kelly's Court.

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