Megyn Kelly Hosts The Charlie Kirk Show - On Charlie's Legacy, Kimmel Sidelined, and What Comes Next | Ep. 1152

14:59What? Hello. Hello.

15:05Andrew Kolvet:I'm not going to be able to focus looking right at you. I'm just going to be staring at you. Hello. Wow. Ready, Terrell? Hold on. We're rolling? We're not. All right, you'll be switching? All right, I'll count it down. Wait. I'm kind of nervous, you guys. She's nervous, which is why we must get going. All right, are we ready? No. Yes, sir. Okay, three, two, one. Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. You're going to have to do it again. Introduce yourself. Is that what you're going to say?

15:46Andrew Kolvet:Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. You're so handsome. I'm engaged. Would you like to introduce yourself or should I introduce you? This is so important. How would you like me to start? All right, we'll try it again. Hey, everybody. Welcome to this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show. Joining me is the most special guest, my fiance, Erica. Welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. Wow.

16:21Walter Kirn:I don't know about you guys, but I was holding it together just fine up until that. Their love story was something.

16:28Andrew Kolvet:Yeah. Charlie knew how good Erica was. We know how good Erica was. And when she made her address the other night, right next to this chair, I think the whole nation found out how good Erica was. The amount of strength that that took. She's our Khaleesi. She's our retribution. The memes are already flowing. Yeah, right.

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18:05Andrew Kolvet:This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to The Charlie Kirk Show.

18:11Walter Kirn:Welcome back, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly, sitting in Charlie's studio with some of his dear friends and staffers. And I don't know, you guys, today has a different feel for me. I've been listening all week with JD, the vice president, with the guys from Daily Wire, who I love with Glenn. And of course, we've been covering everything about Charlie since, you know, last week on my own show. And just being with you all, I feel better. I don't know. Like, today just seems like we're able to laugh a little. Like, it's not that people aren't in grieving, but it's a sign of mental well-being that you can find a way to like chuckle here and there.

18:47Walter Kirn:You know, I had my first laugh actually the other day when my friend reminded me of my favorite exchange with Charlie. It was very funny. And it was actually, it arose out of a time when Charlie was in trouble with a laugh for having said something that they thought was terrible and I knew wasn't terrible. And it was part of his courage in saying something that everybody believes, but they would never say it out loud it was about how they were so focused on hiring women and black pilots and minority pilots and going from three percent to 50 right there was a 50 that we were gonna have to worry about who the hell was flying the planes because it was like what do you mean there's black people only 13 percent of the population how are we gonna have 50 percent of them being pilots anyway so which was bull it happened never mind hey of course i have it um and hold on let me find it here.

19:36Walter Kirn:He came on my show January 2024 and made the following point as only Charlie could sat 22.

19:44Andrew Kolvet:Dei invites unwholesome thinking. And I said, I don't. And I was saying in the clip, that's not who I am. That's not what I believe. But what it does is it makes us worse version of ourselves, Megan. That's the whole point of what I was saying is that I now look at everything through a hyper racialized diversity quota lens because of their massive insistence to try to hit these ridiculous racial hiring quotas. Three to four percent of current pilots are blacks right now, three to four percent. And now they want to say this is just a hiring class of candidates. Are there enough candidates to fill the 50 percent quota?

20:27Andrew Kolvet:And the other question should be asked is, why is it a problem? Let's just ask the premise. Why is it a problem that 81 % are white? And I just I love the Axios guy. Well, white males are dominating the cockpit. Yeah, those pesky safe flights are dominating our society, Megan. You know, all those, you know, all those 25 years of commercial airliners that have kept on. I mean, dominating as if like the white male is like oppressing us with, you know, their beautiful landings through turbulence and storm. You know, just because he said that at the end I think one of, a great little Charlie thing Every time a plane took off, he would say Lord bless this flight right as it began to accelerate And then when I joined, I would add, Lord bless this landing Because I find that a pretty important part

21:16Walter Kirn:That helps, so tell us something about Charlie that we don't know Oh, man Who's got one of those? Blake, Mikey We also have two We have two new guest stars here I want to tell everybody, we have Daisy Phelps And we have Emma K. Bartles and Emma-Kate, you did Charlie's social media and Daisy, you seem like you did everything.

21:35Andrew Kolvet:Media director, I just kind of explain it as podcast media, digital media, sponsorship media, whatever Charlie

21:42Walter Kirn:said. Did for Charlie and now will continue doing for Erica and for Turning Point. Yes, ma 'am, we're all in it. Sorry, yeah, what were you going to say?

21:49Andrew Kolvet:One of the things Mikey and I agreed we were really happy he got to do, you know, one of the things about Charlie is he was so famous, he had no anonymity anymore in America and he actually really liked going out on walks. And so we were actually in Asia just the weekend before this happened and we were in Seoul and I'd been there a little bit early. I was going to a wedding for a friend of mine. And so when he got in, I was like, Charlie, the best way to understand the city, just kind of walk around and see how it's different. And so, you know, we were there. He got in on a Friday and so I think Saturday morning, he just got up extremely early, 5.30 a.m.

22:26Andrew Kolvet:And he just started walking around the streets of Seoul. And for once, he got to just wander a city. And he was just, for most of the people there, he was just kind of this foreigner wandering around their city. I mean, he was so tall. He's tall for American standards. He would draw everyone's gaze. He would draw everyone's gaze. But, you know, for once, he could just wander a city as a traveler. And he really liked to do that.

22:45Walter Kirn:I didn't realize what a big walker he was. Big walker. Yeah.

22:47Andrew Kolvet:My version of tourism is you stop at a cafe, you eat, you keep walking, you stop, you shop. Charlie's is you just walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk. and it was 90 degrees, 90 % humidity. We're sweating through our suits and we're all like, when is he going to stop walking? Finally, he stopped at a coffee shop and we were like, okay, we're going to get like 10 minutes here. No, two minutes, two minutes and we're back out in the heat.

23:10Walter Kirn:But like no vices, right? Did he even get the coffee or did he get the midnight tea?

23:14Andrew Kolvet:He got the mint tea. Yeah, the mint tea. Classic mint tea with two honeys. No alcohol, no caffeine. Which everyone's been getting now. There are so many outside of HQ people leave their mid majesty with two honeys.

23:25Walter Kirn:Did you see that story, Daisy, of the, they posted it on X, somebody, an older woman, a grandmother went into a Starbucks and asked for that, and they gave it to her, and they wrote loser on it. Well, her family unleashed holy, you know what, on this Starbucks to the point where they were temporarily closed when the family went back to find accountability. It's amazing, though. It's like the story's not about some loser who wrote loser, right? It's about people have had it. They're pushing back Charlie style because the confrontation was actually very polite, but it was like, you're not going to do this to us.

24:01Andrew Kolvet:Well, and what's funny is we had just at our student action summit in Florida, we did approve me wrong, which was kind of the first we'd done at one of our own events. So it was supposed to be more lighthearted. Pretty much everyone that's there loves Charlie is his supporter. And so most of the questions, some of them were like about the bears, the cubs. What if he likes waffles or pancakes? eggs and then what his Starbucks order was because we talked about it the other day but he would have these cough drops all the time and people would think they were zen they were just cough drops he had to have them for his throat and then people would ask what his Starbucks drink was and everyone was guessing in the crowd and Emma Kate posted that video and people it went viral they loved knowing what he had they just love real stories of him right now.

24:42Walter Kirn:You're incredibly talented Charlie's social media is next level so I don't know how you manage that but through the social media right now people are reconnecting with him or connecting for the first time in like a really unprecedented, I've never seen anything like it.

24:54Andrew Kolvet:A hundred percent. I saw a TikTok this morning of somebody saying they tried to silence Charlie, but I hadn't really seen his videos or paid attention to them. He was like, now I'm going down a Charlie Kirk rabbit hole. I'm watching every video. I'm listening to every podcast.

25:08Walter Kirn:We all are.

25:09Andrew Kolvet:He was like, I can't believe I'm just now discovering this, but I feel so blessed that there's so much on the internet that even after his death, people are still getting to know him and love him.

25:20Walter Kirn:It's one of the few blessings around this thing is like all the hours of tape.

25:24Andrew Kolvet:I think I saw the same one where he was like, you guys made me obsessed with Charlie. I didn't even know him until this. Right.

25:29Walter Kirn:Now, speaking of obsessions, you two share one and Charlie tapped into it more than once. Tell us.

25:34Andrew Kolvet:Just any sort of Taylor Swift news that come up, he would just like explain this. What's happening? And then when we were in the office, when the news broke about them getting engaged and Charlie was so excited for them. He was like, this is amazing. More people should get married and have kids. This is a great example for everyone. It's so on brand. Like, yes, exactly. We're so happy for Taylor.

25:54Walter Kirn:Well, I have a question about Charlie for you guys. So, I mean, he was human. There were people who would irritate him. I know because I talked to him about some of those people. How would he handle that? Like, Taylor is one of them. She came out and she endorsed Kamala. She said it was because of Kamala's LGBTQ stance of Tim Walsh, actually. I mean, crazy statements. So how would he get past that and then be happy? Like, he seemed to be able to do that with everybody.

26:19Andrew Kolvet:I would say for the most part, instead of him getting irritated by people in pop culture, it more so just went to the side of him. And he wouldn't really pay attention to it until we'd be like, hey, this is I remember one time he's he's like, what is Brat Summer? Because everyone's talking about it. Like it didn't annoy him because he didn't even know about it. He was just so focused on what he needed to do. Yes.

26:39Walter Kirn:So what we're leaning here is Charlie was a nerd.

26:42Andrew Kolvet:Yeah. There you go.

26:43Walter Kirn:Which is fine. You know, I mean, Andrew was telling me about how they like intentionally made him not nerdy for the prove me wrong segments. Like maybe maybe we won't wear the suit. You know, maybe we'll wear a T-shirt. And that worked. Right. He gained a lot of extra fans.

26:56Andrew Kolvet:He still was pretty alpha. I think we can all agree.

26:59Walter Kirn:It's an interesting combination. Yeah. He was a brainiac. He was alpha.

27:02Andrew Kolvet:Yeah. And he was like the ultimate pinnacle example of what being a man is. And so being more like Charlie, he never drank alcohol. He go to the gym. he always ate healthy. He always had that Starbucks order. He always took care of his vocal cords with his throat coats and everything.

27:18Walter Kirn:The discipline.

27:18Andrew Kolvet:He was a disciplined alpha male and when he had to tap into the nerdy side of him to learn something, he would tap into it.

27:25Walter Kirn:So he didn't want you to go to college and you agreed not to. And then did he put you through college?

27:31Andrew Kolvet:Yeah. I think I learned more under Charlie. Also, one of my favorite stories of Charlie, since we're all just kind of going around, literally, probably my favorite, it's we're at the RNC and JD had just come out on stage. And whether you guys know it or not, Charlie played a role in JD being the vice president. And he comes out on stage. Charlie was so excited. We snuck on the floor. We didn't have a pass. We went to the very front. It was just me and Charlie. And JD says something about Joe Biden. And this was right after the debate. And everybody was like, Joe's got to go. Joe's got to go. Joe's got to go.

28:03Andrew Kolvet:And Charlie turns around, looks at me in this cinematic way, and he goes, careful what you wish for. and I was like oh my gosh and then the next I think a couple days later I don't even remember Kamala Harris that summer was like more fundraising more battles more pain Charlie was very funny and he had so many funny one liners where he almost he wasn't trying to be funny but it was just those quick little ones like I can remember on Juneteenth this year he sent us a video he said i can't remember exactly what he said he said happy juneteenth i'm on my way to work go to work today everybody have a good day you did not take off that national holiday no we did not we were here working but it was just those funny little selfie videos he would always send in our chats where most of them would get posted on tiktok or stories or whatever um like what like

29:03Walter Kirn:He would send videos of himself to the team?

29:05Andrew Kolvet:Just selfie videos, just doing little quick commentary on whatever was happening or just telling a story or giving updates. And it was always those really short ones that I loved the most because they were just so funny without trying to be funny. And people loved them. That's hilarious.

29:20Walter Kirn:So it wasn't necessarily for social media, but it was like for all of you.

29:22Andrew Kolvet:Yeah. And we would post them a good amount, but it was just, you know, it was just kind of a little bit of behind the scenes Charlie. Yeah. That, you know, people love to see it. A really fun behind the scenes, Charlie. So he was a sports fan and the way he would consume it had to be very intense because he doesn't have, you know, other than Saturday, which he always was strict about taking off. You know, he didn't have the time to just lounge around watching the game. So the one I'll always remember is shortly after I joined, we had the World Cup in Qatar and he was all invested in the U.S. doing well.

29:57Andrew Kolvet:and so he was watching the World Cup games on his phone during the show and was reacting to things during the segments. He'd also always have the iPad with him. Yeah, always had an iPad with him and he was always watching sports on the side.

30:12Walter Kirn:The Cubs, Erica mentioned the Cubs. And did she say the Ducks?

30:16Andrew Kolvet:Big Ducks fan. We have a flag that we had in the studio for a while. It's where his family went to college and he wanted to inherit a college football team. And it was his. He was so passionate. He would sometimes say, you know, I just want to retire and go coach college football. That was what he would say if he was frustrated. Like, I should just quit and go coach college football. Same with the Olympics in March Madness. We had an iPad set up all around the studio. So he would constantly know what's happening in the games.

30:42Walter Kirn:Once you've been president, coaching a sports team seems like a great thing. And that was clearly in Charlie's future. All right. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. Don't leave.

30:57Walter Kirn:Welcome back, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. I'm sitting here on Charlie Kirk's set. And what an honor to be hosting his show today as we simulcast the Megan Kelly show as well. And I have to tell you, like, we've been we've been joking in between the commercial breaks. Like, I don't know how it's been here for you guys. But this is the first I haven't laughed this much in a week. I don't know. It just feels good to talk about him in a more lighthearted way because that's who he was. I mean, of course, the last thing Charlie would have wanted was for us to be all sitting around feeling sad, especially while talking about him.

31:29Walter Kirn:So to me, this feels like an appropriate way of handling grief, too. I'm joined now by two additional staffers for Charlie, Danny, Phillip, and hold on, Nate Walker. That's correct. You're Nate and you're Danny. And Catherine LoCastro. Yeah. And you did all admin. You do all the Abby stuff. It's from the sound of it, like admin, organizing everything. This must be so hard. How are you handling all this?

31:57Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, thank you. I mean, it's been really special to have the team that we have to lean on each other and get through it together. I think it definitely has been incredibly busy. And it's kind of interesting to balance the grief and the busyness of everything. But I think the will to work is contagious. And I mean, I'm just following Mikey's lead and Erica's lead and trying to do everything that Charlie would have wanted, which is to keep going and to just work harder than ever. So, yeah, definitely busy. And busyness is a blessing. It is. I mean, it's amazing.

32:30Walter Kirn:Charlie's life work is keeping everyone occupied in a way that I think is good and is productive. So, Nate, tell us what you did for Charlie.

32:38Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, I was Charlie's executive assistant, the day-to-day Charlie, make sure he has his food, water, clothes, all the stuff that he doesn't need to think about, I would do for him. Clothes? How do you do clothes? Yeah, you figure that out. It was difficult, not the easiest job. We have the clothing racks in the warehouse. Yeah, some days I would just have to guess, figure out what is Charlie going to want to wear today, and sometimes I'd be right, sometimes not.

33:03Walter Kirn:Well, can I ask you, not to take it to a darker place, but we're all wearing these Freedom shirts, the same shirt that Charlie was wearing on the day he was killed. Is there a story behind this shirt?

33:15Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, so we usually bring a couple shirts to the campus stops, and I ask Charlie in the car, I go, Charlie, what shirt do you want to wear? He goes, I want to wear the Freedom shirt. That's not controversial.

33:27Walter Kirn:What were the other options? Oh, I can't remember exactly. Did he wear the one that my son has with Trump giving double middle fingers? No, no, no. He missed twice. Not those ones. It would always say something.

33:39Andrew Kolvet:Never surrender. Here I am. Freedom. He liked his short taglines.

33:44Walter Kirn:I was actually, when you guys asked if I would wear this on the air, I was so honored. And I feel like I have such a treasure having this shirt. This is such a treasure now. Danny, what did you do for Charlie?

33:57Andrew Kolvet:So I did research and prep for him for the show, meetings, events.

34:02Walter Kirn:That's a heavy lift.

34:03Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, stuff like that.

34:04Walter Kirn:Because he was meticulous.

34:06Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, and then it would also be like, okay, five minutes before the event starts, I need more on this, so find more on this specific person or something like that. So it was always something.

34:15Walter Kirn:What was he like in that way? What would interest him? He would be interested in the most specific stuff sometimes,

34:23Andrew Kolvet:and then sometimes he wouldn't care. Mikey probably knows about this too, but yeah, he would want very specific details on very specific things that really no one else would think about. And then other times he would just be like, I'm just going to wing it.

34:39Walter Kirn:I got it covered. And then you'd probably hear that stuff actually come up in one of the Q &As on the Prove Me Wrong segments. It's like, oh, wait a minute. Actually, he needed that. Right? Everyone's marveling right now on the internet at Charlie's depth of knowledge about everything. How? How? Can anyone here explain that? How?

34:59Andrew Kolvet:Yeah. He was diligent, as we said earlier on the show.

35:03Walter Kirn:Was he constantly studying?

35:04Andrew Kolvet:Constantly studying, reading a book, and his time management was impeccable. If he didn't have time to read a book, he'd have Blake read a book for him, Danny read a book for him, and he'd have people come out and mentor him and talk to him about details, and Frank Turek would be here, and he would pour into Charlie, and Charlie would be taking meticulous notes and study it, And then everything was focused towards his campus tours. He wanted to give knowledge that he could glean from the world to all these students across America.

35:31Walter Kirn:That's an interesting question. Were the campus tours his dominant focus or was it the big student events or was it the show?

35:39Andrew Kolvet:It was everything. It was everything. And how he was able to manage it all, I don't think anybody will really know. And he slept and he still was able to do normal human things while managing a million tasks.

35:52Walter Kirn:I can't imagine you trying to get him to sit down with you and go over logistics when he is this busy and important.

36:00Andrew Kolvet:Corraling him and Mikey was definitely a challenge at times. But sometimes I would say I just need 30 seconds. I have a few things I need to go over.

36:06Walter Kirn:Would you just send him a video on the group chat? Charlie, I need you.

36:10Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, that would have been helpful. But we just needed a little bit of time to nail things down. And we had a good routine.

36:15Walter Kirn:You know, you seem like somebody who can handle that. And not everybody has those executive management skills. So just meeting all of you, it's very clear. He had a very clear eye for talent. And everyone here is so young. I just feel I'm so sorry that you've had such a tragedy at such a young point in your lives. We're going to be right back. When you're buried in credit card debt and loan debt, it's human nature to put it off and say, I'll deal with it later. If that's you, here's something you need to know. Done With Debt discovered a little known strategy that works in your favor to dramatically reduce or even erase your debt altogether.

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38:37Walter Kirn:We absolutely have to keep talking. It's more important now than ever. To cower, to hide, to go silent is not the answer. And all I can tell you is there is no fucking way I am canceling one stop on this tour. Not one stop. I'm going. I'm going to stand on these stages and I'm going to say all the things that we say all the time on this show. We're going to make it safe for me. We're going to make it safe for my team and my guests and you. We're going coast to coast and do something really important, which is say what's true and what's real to honor him. I really now more than ever would love to see you all face to face.

39:19Walter Kirn:God, I would love to see you face to face. I need to see you face to face. I am doing this tour and I would love for you to join me. Megan Kelly dot com for the tickets.

39:38Walter Kirn:Welcome back, everyone, to the Charlie Kirk show. I'm Megyn Kelly sitting in for Charlie and simulcasting now on SiriusXM on the Megyn Kelly show as well, which is perfect. For me, that's perfect. The two of us kind of holding hands and doing the shows together, which is what we did when he was with us. Mikey, let me ask you, because there are a lot of questions in conservative circles now about what's going to happen with the organization. Because turning points become very important to a lot of people. And I hope there are no turf wars. I hope there's nothing like, no, it has to go this way.

40:09Walter Kirn:No, it has to go that way. I think choosing Erica to be Charlie's successor is the perfect way to stop all that, just to keep it consistent with Charlie's vision. But what are your thoughts on how you keep it consistent with what Charlie wanted and keep it going without him?

40:25Andrew Kolvet:Yeah. Erica said it the other night. He was an excellent person to pick people. He loved picking people and choosing talent, finding talent, and acquiring talent. And he would want to pluck somebody and bring them on the team if they were good at a job. Um, but I was telling you earlier with Erica that for the first time, I got a little emotional two days ago because for the first time when I was talking to her about where the organization's going, how we're going to continue Charlie's legacy, how we're going to really 10 X this organization to become what, what Charlie inevitably wanted it to become.

41:01Andrew Kolvet:I, I hearing her thoughts and the way she was talking and breaking things down, I felt like for the first time I was speaking to Charlie for the first time again. and he told her everything. Private conversations, everything was shared with Erica. She knew everything. And from the way she texts to the way she talks and I can confidently say that I feel like it's Charlie still leading this organization and we just announced it, that Erica's going to be the chief executive officer of Turning Point USA. And for the operators, for the people that helped run this organization with Charlie, we know.

41:35Andrew Kolvet:We know exactly what he wanted in his meetings, what his vision was. his push and the event coming on Sunday, we all just keep sending quotes to each other. More people, make it bigger. And it's, he's ingrained in us. He's still there. And it's just like every difficult situation, every hard trial that comes up, it's almost like we have a blueprint that Charlie's just embedded into our minds.

41:58Walter Kirn:The event on Sunday honoring Charlie's life, it's going to have heads of state. I mean, every administration official, like that place is going to be in lockdown. I'm sure, first of all. But have you been overwhelmed with the number of responses?

42:12Andrew Kolvet:It's touching, the amount of responses, not just with the event, but also outside of the event. The amount of people messaging me, everybody on this team, the organization, saying for the first time in seven years, ten years, ever, this is their first time going back to church. And that they sat in that empty seat that Charlie left in the sanctuary, and they turned to their neighbor and they said, Charlie brought me here. And other messages said, for every Sunday after this, I'll go back for God, but for this Sunday, I'm going for Charlie Kirk. Oh, I love that. And the overpouring of responses outside of this event is beautiful.

42:44Andrew Kolvet:But the event specifically, you're right. There's heads of state coming. The entire White House essentially is coming. Yeah. It's beautiful. And I believe when Air Force One lands, there's going to be a lot of people that you guys will see at this event. It's going to be very beautiful.

42:58Walter Kirn:Have you guys been, I mean, you knew Charlie so well. You knew him on a date. You were getting his clothes, right, and his food. Have you been surprised at the worldwide tributes to him, the massive impact that his loss has had?

43:12Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, for sure. When you're with Charlie every day, he's not Charlie Kirk. He's just Charlie. And then something like this happens, and his reach was so big. It was bigger than anything I think we ever even realized, me personally especially.

43:31Walter Kirn:You think you're working for a company, not necessarily a cause, and then you realize it's something far more profound.

43:36Andrew Kolvet:It's way bigger than any of us, and it's bigger than Charlie. It's really cool.

43:42Walter Kirn:Can I ask you guys, how did you get the news last week? Were you here?

43:47Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, me and Danny were both there.

43:49Walter Kirn:Oh, you were there on site with him?

43:50Andrew Kolvet:We were on site, yeah.

43:52Walter Kirn:Gosh, Danny. I mean, did you worry about security in advance of these events? Because I know Charlie, he said openly he'd been getting death threats.

44:03Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, we always would worry, but it wasn't really our job to worry. We were just kind of more so focused on doing what we had to for the team and whoever's job that was, you know. We trusted them and everything, and we still do. His team did great. So, yeah, it was never really, we were more so just focused on doing what we needed to for Charlie.

44:23Walter Kirn:I have to imagine there was a level of disbelief on your part, too, just like there was for those of us who weren't there who were watching on TV. Yeah, just kind of state of shock at first, yeah. Has it been helpful to come back to the office and be with each other?

44:39Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, absolutely. I think leaning on each other has been the most important thing through all of it. It's sort of an unspeakable feeling that I think we're all experiencing, but to be able to go through it together has been very, very helpful.

44:53Walter Kirn:Do you, like, I personally have been surprised at how many people feel this personally. I mean, people openly weeping who never met Charlie and actually who weren't even necessarily fans. Not detractors, but not fans either. And it's, I think, because of the content that's being pushed out that they're getting to know him. Of course, the violence with which he was taken, but also just the content. Do you have somebody going through hours and hours of Charlie tape and, like, refreshing it for us? Like, how are we getting all this new content? What feels like new?

45:23Andrew Kolvet:Yeah, yeah. I mean, Charlie would bank hours of content. He did four hours a day. And then on top of that, he was doing five speeches a week.

45:31Walter Kirn:He was?

45:32Andrew Kolvet:We were traveling. We were supposed to be in Colorado State today. We were supposed to be in Nashville tomorrow. He would just bank these speeches and content. We didn't even post all of them. We have so many speeches that haven't even been posted yet. Who is he speaking to? Groups. On Friday, he was supposed to be speaking at a church event. Today, he was supposed to be speaking to students at Colorado State. Wow. When we were in Asia, he was speaking to a random group of Japanese people at the America Fest equivalent in Korea. But to their point, security-wise, I don't think it matters what the security was.

46:06Andrew Kolvet:Nothing was going to stop Charlie from giving his message where it needed to be. And he died too soon, but he was always ready to die. Everything he did, he poured into it 100%. He was always dedicated to his work, dedicated to his message. He knew that the truth was the truth. He would always say, North is North no matter what. There's objective truths that need to be shared to the world. And he was ready to share those.

46:31Walter Kirn:When I found out that he'd been wearing a bulletproof vest, I thought to myself, oh my God, I didn't even know that it had gotten that bad in terms of the death threats. Because we all sadly do get death threats in the public eye. had it escalated prior to last week?

46:52Andrew Kolvet:we've always gotten threats before nobody's ever really acted on them in this way but we have received stuff in the past

47:00Walter Kirn:it's so sick it's like that this should be the cost for saying what you believe truth now everybody wants to know what Charlie would think about everything I'm talking to a lot of people what would Charlie think about this? what would Charlie think about that? and I try desperately not to answer those questions because it's just not up to me to say that kind of thing. I feel like Erica can say that and nobody else can say that. Exactly. But I do wonder, I feel like Charlie might be happy about the Jimmy Kimmel situation. He put out a tweet.

47:30Andrew Kolvet:I literally, I posted on my story today. Jimmy Kimmel isn't funny. It was a tweet that he posted way back when. He was right.

47:37Walter Kirn:He hasn't been funny for a long time. As President Trump would say, Rosie's a loser. She's been a loser for a long time. As if it's quantifiable. Exactly when she became a loser. And same with Jimmy Kimmel. He was once funny and he's not anymore. Not anymore. And President Trump with the Antifa declaration today. I thought that was amazing. That was a group that Charlie called a lot of attention to. Yeah. And obviously may have had some connection to what happened last week. But what do you make of the Kimmel termination? I love it. It's just indefinite suspension.

48:11Andrew Kolvet:Sweet justice. I think we were all waiting for it. It's a shame. I mean, Charlie's seeing it, and he's loving it. But to only see his reaction to it would have been priceless for all of us who work so closely with him. But, yeah, we love it. Nobody thinks Jimmy Kimmel's funny anymore. No.

48:27Walter Kirn:And the nerve of that guy to suggest that this guy was MAGA. I know. Disgusting. There was no way he was getting away with that. We're going to talk more about that when Walter Kern joins me next. He's got lots of thoughts. You guys, I think I speak for everyone. I say we are all sending you all of our love, all of our support. I am, of course, willing to do whatever it takes to keep Turning Point going forward as robustly and strongly as ever. And I know everybody out there is feeling it in terms of donations. You guys just keep telling us what you need, and we'll all be there. Much love to you.

48:59Walter Kirn:Thank you. Okay, don't go away because there is a lot to talk about in the actual news, and we will talk about Jimmy Kimmel and President Obama's whining.

49:11Walter Kirn:Welcome back, everyone, to The Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Megan Kelly. It's completely an honor to be sitting here in Charlie's studio wearing the Freedom shirt and talking with Charlie's staff and about how Charlie lived his life. It's amazing here. Everyone is young. Everyone is energetic. Everyone is, you know, in a weird way, upbeat. And by that I mean, like, they're obviously in deep grief, but they are finding a way to laugh with one another and be with one another and forge forward. And I will tell you, this is the most optimistic I have felt since eight days ago about the future of Turning Point.

49:49Walter Kirn:I just feel like these people, we are in good hands. Like this organization will go forward and they can do it. Not only can they do it because they knew Charlie very well and they knew his vision and they'd been doing it, But you can just tell it's a family and they are more committed now than ever to making sure that that this organization stands and grows and becomes even stronger than it is right now. And it's going to be hopefully other than logistically, it's going to be easy because they have the support of the world right now. And they also keep getting bits of good news here and there.

50:23Walter Kirn:Like last night, the decision that Erica Kirk will take over as the CEO of Turning Point. Just saying it gives me the chills. It's exactly, of course, what Charlie would have wanted. You know that from the tape you've seen of the two of them in what was one of the most beautiful love stories any of us has ever witnessed. And inspiration, even to those of us who have been married for 18 years and are already happily married, to do even better, to try even harder, to make our spouse even happier. and think of what somebody like that can do at the top of this organization in the name of her husband.

50:58Walter Kirn:I mean, it's going to be something to watch and participate in. They need everybody's help. One of the other pieces of good news is that Jimmy Kimmel is no longer on the air and we're absolutely thrilled. We won't miss him at all. And frankly, all the liberal tear-crying all over X is only making it better what's the opposite of salt into your wounds sugar i don't know balm like it's wonderful to see them upset i'm sorry but it's like um steven l miller uh who's not to be confused with steven miller the trump administration senior official steven l miller he's been on the show before he's very clever he's a great twitter follow and he tweeted out or posted on x um national media being more upset at jimmy kimmel losing his show than they are at charlie kirk losing his life is kind of proving the point.

51:50Walter Kirn:I couldn't say it any better than that. That's exactly it. They're way more upset about this news, about this guy, this talking head who's been such a buffoon for so many years doing nothing other than being unkind. I'm trying not to swear. It says right here on the top of my packet. Reminder, no swearing because I'm on Charlie's show now. He's so wholesome. But in any event, being such a jerk for so many years, losing his show, no one cares. Most normal people don't care. Walter Kern, do you care? He's my guest now and joins me via satellite. Walter, your thoughts on Jimmy Kimmel and the leftist meltdown.

52:28Andrew Kolvet:Well, let me say something first. Two months ago, Charlie asked me to be on this show. I had never been on it before. And I said, no, I was too busy. I would get to him this fall. Well, he's not here. And now I'm on his show. with him not on earth, which is a lesson to us all. Don't put things off. Don't take things for granted and how quickly and terribly things can change. So I'm sorry, Mr. Kirk. I, I'm sorry that I delayed too long. Anyway, what do I think of Jimmy Kimmel? Well, I do a little showbiz. I write screenplays. I've had movies made in my books. I've written on TV shows. Jimmy, that's showbiz.

53:22Andrew Kolvet:You weren't funny. You weren't any good. You wish death on half of your audience in not so subtle ways. Hey, Wheezy, rest in peace. You made a false claim that this case had been cracked and the culprit was MAGA. In other words, half the U.S. public. Now you're gone and you're gone legally. And I think legitimately because ABC leases the public airwaves in order to make money. And that lease comes with conditions. And that is that it serves the public good, basically. And it wasn't serving the public good. It was it was acting on behalf of a regime. It was acting on behalf of its pharmaceutical advertisers that keep it, you know, that keep it supported.

54:11Andrew Kolvet:It was slanting, not just the news, but every joke. It's not cable. Greg Gutfeld is not comparable. He's on cable news. Those are private wires that are laid in the ground. This is the public airwaves, a stage that we give people on the condition that they use it with decency and some sense of fairness and fair play. and in the interest of all of us who own it. We own that station. We merely lease it to EBC.

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55:54Andrew Kolvet:The voice of generations is the Charlie Kirk Show.

55:58Walter Kirn:Welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show, which goes on just as Charlie would want it to. He's got millions of fans now across the world and so many who listened to the show and depended on Charlie to bring them the news unfiltered and with his brand of straight talk. And I'm honored to be here doing that for him today. And a shout out to The Megyn Kelly Show listeners, too, who are listening on Sirius XM and on our pod as well. Jimmy Kimmel wasn't sorry. Okay, we played the soundbite on our show for you yesterday, and I'll play it here now just for those of you who haven't heard what got him. Indefinitely suspended.

56:36Walter Kirn:He's fired. We'll see, unless Disney bends the knee. But right now, it's not looking good for old Jimbo. Here's what he said in Sot7.

56:45Andrew Kolvet:We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

56:59Walter Kirn:So he's a despicable pig. And he said that when he knew that it wasn't the case, the evidence had been ubiquitous about this person's left-leaning and commitment to left-wing ideology. We've gone through it repeatedly, you all know. And all of that was out before Jimmy Kimmel said that on Monday night. Did he come out on the air on Tuesday night and try to correct his lie? No, because it was a lie. It was an intentional misstatement of fact meant to mislead you. It was not a mistake, as some left wing defenders are saying right now on X. And his plan on Wednesday was not to go out and apologize that night either.

57:33Walter Kirn:His plan, according to The Hollywood Reporter, was to go out and claim that he was the victim because it was taken out of context. And he was going to give us the proper context in which somehow his lie about MAGA at a time when MAGA is under greater threat than it's been in quite some time, that he ginned up that hatred during such a time when Mag is grieving in a way it hasn't been so profoundly since I've known it, that he did that in a way that was just simply out of context. OK, more lies. And so the stations groups from Nextar and others, by the way, it wasn't just Nextar, Sinclair went to Disney and said, we're not running this show.

58:12Walter Kirn:We're not going to be a part of this. Not now, not ever. We're no longer going to be complicit in his lies. And the FCC commissioner, Brendan Carr, had said earlier in the day that he wasn't going to tolerate this, that they have an actual duty to uphold the public interest on the airwaves. And Disney caved, as it should have. He had no right. That's literally what some are saying. He had a right to be out there with his show. Swalwell, he's an idiot. He had no right. And now he's accurately and justly been taken off the air. So, Walter, your thoughts on the leftist claim that this is government interference, which does make it a potential free speech problem.

58:50Walter Kirn:I mean, at least they have it right that when the government's involved, you have a potential First Amendment issue. But I mean, my own thought on it is, yes, that's right. But government actually here does have a role that's that's actually statutorily prescribed.

59:04Andrew Kolvet:It absolutely does. Imagine Yellowstone Park, a park that belongs to the people. and it grants a license to one particular company to lead tours. But it says, hey, there's two things. You can't abuse the wildlife and you can't be mean to the tourists. And then it starts abusing the wildlife and being mean to the tourists. Does the federal government have a right to fire that person or at least threaten them with it? Absolutely. Does that company that wants to keep that lease, that special privilege that allows them to make money, have an interest in getting rid of that tour guide? Absolutely. That's all that happened.

59:40Andrew Kolvet:The rest is bombast. You have a right to speak, and I'm sure he'll have a very popular sub stack or streaming channel. But you do not have the right to a stage that belongs to the people of the United States. And the broadcast airwaves, as I said before, are exactly that. They are a resource like water or land, a set of frequencies.

1:00:01Walter Kirn:You know, here's what I want to say about Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert, for that matter, in the podcast lane. And of course, we love it. And we've now really made our livings in it. I mean, I've been over this lane for five years and you're in it too. So we love it and it's meaningful and it's the future. We know that. But here's what's so delicious. To Jimmy Kimmel, that's going to be horrible. Like his recognizing that that's where he has likely to land next is going to be a fate worse than the worst possible outcomes for him. because he thinks he's of ABC and Disney. He's used to going to the theme parks and having his rear end kissed.

1:00:41Walter Kirn:He wants to be at all the right parties, and he wants to be the king of television. People who are on television think television is the only thing that matters. So he's definitely going to suffer, which is delicious because he's been the king of enjoying everyone else's cancellation for years, for years. Just to do a quick search for what he said about Tucker when he got booted from Fox for far less controversy than what he just caused.

1:01:08Andrew Kolvet:Listen, let's get some realism in here about show business and about network news and so on. Jimmy Kimmel was on his way out. Trump predicted that he was next after Colbert months ago. I have a good friend who works in the very small world of late night comedy hosting. OK, everyone knew Jimmy was not long for this world. So what he did was he went on a suicide mission at the last minute. He shot his mouth off doing something that would only please the partisans so that he could then pose as a free speech martyr rather than a sad sack toad of a bad comedian.

1:01:47Walter Kirn:Yes, that's exactly right. And it's like it's amazing to me because people are like speaking of Swala, he tweeted out he's a comedian. And Scott Adams responded, so was Roseanne. Do cartoonists count? Because, of course, Scott Adams had Dilbert pulled from him, his comic pulled, after he said something too controversial. Roseanne got fired for a tweet. She wasn't even in her lane. He was on the air for Disney. Jimmy Kimmel was. And let's not forget, they fired, I tweeted this out last night, Walter, ABC The Mouse fired Chris Harrison, who hosted The Bachelor because a bachelorette was unearthed to have had pictures at an antebellum-themed party years ago.

1:02:30Walter Kirn:And he said, oh, geez, shouldn't we judge her by the way we were at the time as opposed to the way we are now? They fired him. His career never recovered. So why wouldn't they get rid of Kimmel for this?

1:02:42Andrew Kolvet:Bill Maher was fired from his show, Politically Incorrective, I'm not mistaken, because he said something about the 9-11 hijackers. He said whatever else they were, they weren't cowards because they were willing to die for their cause. Okay? He got canned. He's got his butt. Sorry, I almost swore. I know, we're not allowed. No swearing. It says right here on my list. $500 is the turning point for every swear that comes out of my mouth. But they kicked his butt off the air, and that's not a swear. And he came back because he was talented, because he had a loyal fan base. And he, you know, I was on a show a couple of weeks ago.

1:03:22Andrew Kolvet:Jimmy Kimmel can land on his feet if he wants, but I doubt he will. Because the real wonder of it all was that Jimmy Kimmel lasted on the air for as long as he did. He was the most some he had some guardian angel. He didn't have to be funny. He didn't have to pull ratings. He didn't have to speak to half America. He was allowed to insult people at will. He actually campaigned on stage. I just saw a clip this morning of him giving a long talk to Republicans in his audience about why they shouldn't vote for Trump. He wasn't news. He was worse than news. They used him to do things that news isn't allowed to do.

1:04:01Andrew Kolvet:Like why? Yeah, exactly.

1:04:04Walter Kirn:So now he's reportedly very angry. This is what the trade rags are saying is that Jimmy Kimmel is furious that this has happened to him as though he is a passive victim who is really just martyred here because he didn't do anything wrong. It was just taken out of context. And the mean, bad television executives are out to get him. And meanwhile, I just have to get this out. You've got people like on the left, like Ben Stiller. And there are many I could pick on, but I'm going to pick on Ben Stiller here, who decided to tweet out about this, about Jimmy Kimmel's indefinite suspension. This isn't right.

1:04:42Walter Kirn:OK, it's not that pointed, whatever. It's fine. This isn't right. We went back just to see if he had said anything about Charlie. Nothing. He couldn't manage this isn't right about Charlie Kirk's assassination. But he wants us to feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel, Walter.

1:05:01Andrew Kolvet:It makes you wonder about Hollywood. Aren't they in the business of amusing and pleasing the American public? Apparently not. For a long time now, they've been curiously not in the business of making money, pulling ratings, making good movies, and addressing reality in those movies. They're off in some Marvel comic book universe. What exactly are they showing solidarity with? I don't understand it. Do they do they believe they are a guaranteed a future, even if they have the wrath of the American people?

1:05:34Walter Kirn:They think they're standing up for the First Amendment, which is so ironic, given the way they've been behaving for the past six years. They're the ones who backed the Biden regime that censored all of us on COVID, on the Hunter Biden laptop. We could go down the list. They were fine with all of that.

1:05:51Andrew Kolvet:Megan, you know, you may not agree with this, but the public airwaves, meaning the broadcast networks, which are blonde to all of us, were bought by the pharmaceutical industry, who are 70 percent of advertising. They were purchased by them and they were used in their behalf. One of Jimmy Kimmel's bits was to make fun of ivermectin as horse paste and claim that anybody who showed up having used that at an emergency room should be allowed to, quote, rest in peace, i.e. die. Well, that drug, ivermectin, was a present danger to Pfizer's vaccine that was coming and a way of treating people when there were no other real ways pre-vaccine.

1:06:33Andrew Kolvet:This guy sung for his supper, for his masters. It wasn't Jimmy Kimmel speaking when that ugly mouth opened. It was a huge industry that spoke through him. And now he's acting like a free speech martyr because that industry is facing the loss of their right to advertise on TV, which they've only had since the late 90s. And so they're drumming up a big First Amendment case so that they can go on buying the news. And that's how I really feel.

1:07:04Walter Kirn:It's really incredible. I mean, this is the same group of people who wrote like Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader in the House, actually wrote a letter to Fox News demanding that they not let Tucker Carlson air his special about the J6 event. And actively like this government actively interfering where it doesn't have any right. The FCC actually does have a right.

1:07:28Andrew Kolvet:And that's the funny thing, Megan. The government, which does have a right to intervene with public broadcast networks, took that right and extended it into places during covid and during Trump, the Trump era generally where it doesn't belong. Platforms like Twitter, Facebook and so on, cable news, et cetera. They tried to be the cops in other people's towns and they succeeded because they intimidated management and they infiltrated it, frankly, over at Twitter. I mean, you just went from the FBI to Twitter management and that's documented. True. And so now they are facing the worm turning. They are facing a public that before Charlie's death was already changing in its complexion.

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1:11:52Walter Kirn:Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, which goes on. Just as Erica Kirk said it would, we are all going to help. All of us who love Charlie will make sure his show goes on, his legacy goes on, his events go on. One of our most beloved sons is gone, but his movement is not gone. And it is up to all of us to make sure it thrives. I hope you'll all join me in supporting TPUSA. It'll be an honor for us all. Walter, where do you think this goes? Where do you think all this grief and love and the complicated feelings the country's having right now goes?

1:12:32Andrew Kolvet:Well, the history of civilization suggests that true martyrs, people who die for their beliefs and die when enacting peaceful strategies, they're not in war, they're not in bitter conflict. Those are the most influential people in history. I mean, the most influential person in Western history was one of those. But we have many cases. And I would imagine that for the people who wish to honor him and the people who are touched by him and the people who are just finding out about him, there will be a great and deep desire to carry on in his spirit, not just in his spirit in terms of politics, but in terms I think we've got a bigger situation on our hand.

1:13:23Andrew Kolvet:We've got a spiritual situation on our hand. It's leading to a revival. I've got kids who, I'm not talking about my own kids, who I know in their 20s, young guys, sitting around in their apartments, drinking beer, doing their first jobs, who are having deep conversations and texting me, hey, Walter, what do you think about this? Where it says in the Bible, I wasn't aware you guys knew there was a Bible. This is happening in the last week. That is a movement of the spirit, and America has had revivals that have determined its history several times. On the other side, in terms of those who are hostile to it, I think they look like a bunch of screaming banshees who have been, had the lights turned on while they engaged in dark practices, and they're exposed.

1:14:13Andrew Kolvet:I think that this is, to some extent, out of our hands. It's up to us to hold the standards of civil discourse and other values that Charlie held dear, even dearer than he did. He was obviously the threat. What he was doing, he wasn't a rabble rouser. He was a debater and he was a spiritual person. And that they identified as the biggest threat, which is why they eliminated it. That means to me that emulating his behavior is the biggest threat and the most powerful tool. And so I think people will pick it up. And I think things will change because I think the reestablishment of decency, first of all, common decency, which is all they're trying to do in this ABC case, but it looks like radical action and they call it fascism now because we haven't observed any common decency for so long in this country.

1:15:09Walter Kirn:It's so true.

1:15:11Andrew Kolvet:I think things will change for the better. I really do, Megan. I cannot, they may get intense, they may be loud, they may be fractious, but I don't think that the release of a spirit like his into the public mind with the intensity and the drama around it that surrounds his death can't help but be a good thing.

1:15:35Walter Kirn:Yeah, and it's in those who don't accept his goodness and let it infuse them with the Holy Spirit and a renewed drive to stand up for the things we know are true, but instead go to the dark place of mocking him or what he stood for. God help them. God help them because their future is dark and it's grim and it's depressing, unlike what the rest of us are about to do, which is going to be uplifting and uniting and could just save this country. Walter Curran.

1:16:06Andrew Kolvet:I feel invigorated. I feel invigorated. And I was not someone watching Charlie Kirk every minute. I'm a little bit old for the people he was trying to address. But boy, I'm not too old now.

1:16:18Walter Kirn:Amen. Thanks for being here. Really appreciate it. We'll talk again soon. I want to say thanks to all the folks here at Turning Point. They've taken such good care of me, not just today, but over the years, and encourage all of you to believe in this organization and get behind Erica, because let me tell you, being here, I can see it. Their future is bright. These are dark days right now, but their future is bright. I'm going to say goodbye with the following clip. SOT 19, the crowd outside of TPUSA.

1:16:50grace how sweet the sound that saved the rich like me

1:17:08I once was lost, but now am found Was blind, but now

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