Most Bizarre Met Gala Moments, Why Blake Lively Settled, and CRAZY New JP Morgan Exec Story Details, with Red Scare | Ep. 1310

27:52I don't know. Instead, we got people I had to look up and people like Heidi Klum. Of course, there were the Kardashians. Kim Kardashian was there. Kendall Jenner, as I think I mentioned. And the other one, Kylie. Kylie Jenner is the one who's with Timothy Chalamet. I always screw them up. I'm going to tell you the truth. I thought these three looked great. This is Kendall. She's the supermodel. That's stunning. When she puts her arms out, it makes enormous wings and she looks great. This woman looks great in anything. She's had many, many plastic surgeries. So if you are a very homely person sitting at home thinking there's no hope for you, you totally should feel inspired.

28:32But like if you had a few surgeries, you could look like her. Because trust me, she looked nothing like this when she was 13, 14, 15. We all watched her and keeping up with the Kardashians. But she looks stunning now. And I thought the fashion was gorgeous. Kim had on this pointy like orange latex number. I thought she looked great. I thought she looked stunning. Her body looked great. Her hair looked great. And she looked great. And Kylie, the one who's dating Chalamet, looked awesome too. I loved her outfit. It was weird. It was like latex with the pointy, Kylie with the pointy boobs and there was even a belly button situation going on there with like a bodice on the bottom, like a train on the bottom that looked like it was almost falling off of her.

29:11So that was kind of sensual, but not inappropriate, which is, you know, the Kardashians can go inappropriate. And they didn't. I have to say, I would definitely put all three of them on my best dressed look. And the mom, Kris Jenner wore a kimono. She looked good. I liked her outfit. So for once, I'm giving a thumbs up to the Kardashian four. The other sister, Kourtney, never shows up. And then there's another sister too. There's two sisters that never come up. There's Kim. She looks great. I mean, I thought she looked stunning. Let's hope they stayed out of the bathroom and the dry humping like I saw the last time I was at the Met Gala.

29:45For those of you wondering, when you go into the Met Gala, it's really all about that walk on the red carpet or last night it was the green carpet. That's kind of it. That's what the event's all about. You walk up it. They treat everybody who's not a celebrity, like, you know, the people who paid to be at those tables, like they're nothing. I mean, it's really shameful. Like those poor people, like the people who have no public name, run up those stairs in shame because no one's interested in them. Even though they look fantastic, they've done it. But like no one cares if you're not like Beyonce, whatever.

30:17You go in, you mill about, you look at the displays in the museum, you're looking at the celebs, you're taking selfies, even though you're technically not supposed to, but everybody does. And then you sit down for a dinner that most people don't eat because no one eats when they're in these gowns. And then you move to like an area for dancing. when I was there. I can't remember who was there the first year, but The Weeknd was there the second year. They had some good entertainment there this year, but nobody really dances because they're in these enormous high heels. Like I can't, it's all just about a photo op.

30:52It's not about actually bonding with anybody, getting to know anybody. It's a photo op. It's a massive PR event. Oh, I forgot to mention the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena. Venus, total bore. I put her in the category with Margot Robbie. A swing and a miss. It looked utterly boring. I don't remember anything about your dress. There was some lace, I think, on your head. Serena, I don't remember what you wore last night, but your outfit for the night before was dreadful. It was back in the red sequence theme, and it went all the way up her ass. I saw total ass of Serena Williams, which, you know, it's a lot.

31:26And the dress was cut all the way up to show ass and a rather large leg, and it was just inappropriate. Okay, it was inappropriate. She's too old to be this needy. That's generally my takeaway with these people who are older and show so much skin. Like, I really hope that, Serena's younger than I am, but I really hope that when I'm like Madonna's age in my 60s or Vera Wang's age, 76, I am not that needy. I do not need someone to see my fully naked torso or ass here in Serena's case in order for me to feel sexy or good about myself. That's like, this is just not, it doesn't work with a huge long blonde wig of course.

32:08All right. It ended with a return to the Met Gala here. Blake Lively making her very first Met Gala appearance since 2022. And on the same day, she reached a settlement in her lawsuit against Justin Baldoni and Wayfarer Studios, his studios, over the film. It ends with us. Lively telling Vogue, quote, I haven't been to the Met since giving birth to my fourth child. Every year I am a different version of myself than the last. So to be able to stand in the version of myself that I am today, who talks like that? To be able to stand in the version of myself that I am today and all the experiences I have had in strength and confidence is important to me.

32:53These are lies. No one who actually feels strong and confident talks about themselves like that. I sit here at the anchor desk in my strength and confidence to bring you the news. Nobody talks like this. Like she's just trying to give you the adjectives she wants you to repeat about her because she has not those things. I mean, I've said this to you many times, but like the six foot seven center doesn't tell you how tall he is. If somebody is telling you the adjectives they are in this way, it is an ultimate, ultimate tell that they don't feel those things about themselves. So she does not feel strong.

33:32She feels weak. She does not feel confident. She suffers from a lack of confidence, which seems very obvious because she's a bully. And that's how all bullies are. None of them has confidence or feel strength. That's why they have to behave like that, to make them feel those things for a moment or two. And she is a bully. And I have a lot of thoughts on this settlement, why it came about, and why it had to happen, and some new reporting on exactly what changed hands to make this lawsuit go away. And we will talk about that right after this quick, quick break. Don't go away. Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and that now they're messing with your credit card.

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37:03The big news yesterday was the settlement two weeks before trial of the case brought by Blake Lively against Justin Baldoni and his movie studio, not to mention the PR team representing him. This came as a big shock to most because so far they had been saying all along there'll be no settlement. Like we're we're going to see this through right to the bitter end and a bitter end. it was indeed. I want to take you back before we kick this off to what Brian Friedman, who represented Justin Baldoni, to what he said to me back in January, 2025, right after this thing was filed. He's a friend. He's also my own personal attorney, and he will make your life very unpleasant if you come after me.

37:52But that's an aside. He came on the show and he talked about what was going to happen in this litigation. Remember what happened was Blake Lively, just as a quick primer, she starred in this movie, It Ends With Us with Justin Baldoni. He had purchased the rights to that Colleen Hoover novel. It was his film. He agreed with Blake Lively that she would star in it. And she agreed to that just to be the star, not the co-writer, not the co-director. She had an executive producer credit, but that's meaningless. It's just like a vanity plate. And when she did the movie, She started to complain that he was allegedly doing things inappropriate on the set, that she felt like he was writing in sex scenes that weren't there and other allegations.

38:34And they took a break during COVID. And when they came back, she wanted him to sign this long rider of all the things he promised he would not do, like go into her dressing room unannounced, as she claimed had allegedly been done with. We would later learn that she invited him into the dressing room while she was breastfeeding, something she would complain about in the lawsuit. Even though she said, I'm breastfeeding. And he said, oh, I can come later. She said, no, come now. Okay, there was such a list of those things where if you just heard her half of it, you were like, oh God, he's terrible.

39:02And then you heard the other half of it. It was like, oh wow, she's terrible for misleading me in this way. So she filed first a complaint with the California Human Rights Department. And then somehow, I mean, gee, who knows, it wound up in the New York Times. I have no idea how the New York Times got wind of her super confidential complaint with the California Human Rights Division. But lo and behold, The New York Times, they're good scoopers. And they found out shortly thereafter. We had crossed lawsuits. She sued Baldoni and Wayfarer and Justin's PR team, claiming that they had unleashed that she'd been discriminated against, sexually harassed.

39:38And then that they had retaliated against her when she complained with the California Human Rights Division and with them internally. And he cross claimed against her, too, for defamation of character and so on and so forth. The litigation proceeded. He was very aggressive in his defense and very aggressive in his PR, thanks to his lawyer, Brian Friedman, who, let me tell you, has been through this a time or two. I mean, his representation of me in my battle with NBC was one of the first huge litigations that he'd handled that was equally big on the PR front battle and on the legal battle. and Brian is equally gifted at both.

40:18And he understood in this case, and he's handled so many in between, but he understood in this case that both were going to be equally necessary here. In fact, the truth is the PR battle was even more important in this lawsuit. So we spoke to him weeks after the New York Times article dropped on this program and he made a prediction about how this was going to go for Blake Lively. I think it's SOT too. What's your prediction of where things go from here? I mean, you know, my prediction is that this is going to get worse and worse for Blake Lively. And the reason it's going to get worse and worse is people are going to be more comfortable telling the truth.

40:58And what this is about is really the truth. And she's put Jamie Heath and Justin Baldoni in this position of being called sexual predators, sexual harassers. they have no choice but to go all the way no choice so you know we're going to go all the way and and the unique thing again in this case is going to be we're going to put every single text message out there we're going to put every email out there we're going to put every document out there that's relevant to the case not something that's disrespectful or otherwise would embarrass miss lively because that's not what we want to do but we want to make sure that people have the facts and people can make their own determinations as to what happened.

41:46And that would prove to be devastating to Blake Lively. It's the reason she settled, because they never relented. They kept confronting her via the media with the truth about her behavior toward Justin Baldoni and toward the press and toward others and all the things she did that made everyone loathe her. And it was devastating for her. Her reputation is in tatters. It is in ruins. Thanks to her. They put out a joint statement. And I want you I want to read you the joint statement and take you through it from a legal perspective. OK, is it's remarkable. It is a huge accomplishment for the Baldoni defense team.

42:29It reads as follows. A joint statement. Okay. So they're both, all of them, uh, signing onto this. The end product, the movie, it ends with us is a source of pride to all of us who work to bring it to life, raising awareness and making a meaningful impact in the lives of domestic violence survivors and all survivors is a goal that we stand behind. Okay. Generic, go see our movie. It was a good one. Then we get to the meat of it. We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Miss Lively deserved to be heard. Now I'm going to guarantee, I haven't talked to Brian.

43:06I guarantee you that that line there was the subject of about 200 revisions back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, right? I can feel it getting watered down and watered down and watered down from like, Blake Lively had righteous claims that she was correct to bring. Unfortunately, they were thrown out by a judge and whatever, but this is the best she could do. Whatever. I'm sure it sounded much more favorable to Blake Lively when it was first drafted. Instead, we wind up with the process of making the movie presented challenges and we recognize concerns raised by Lively deserve to be heard.

43:45So good. I mean, honestly, every defense lawyer out there is like, that's excellent. The best you could ever hope for. We remain firmly committed to workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments. There is nothing, nothing in here about sexual harassment. Nothing. Or retaliation. Just workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments. You could be talking about people who leave early and who are lazy on the set. That does not in any way suggest any sexual harassment, never mind retaliation. It is as anodyne a statement as you could get. It is our sincere hope that this brings closure and allows all involved to move forward constructively and in peace.

44:33That's Team Blake saying, please don't hurt us anymore, Brian Friedman. But you're the one who started this. Including a respectful environment online. That's a message for all of us to stop saying nasty things about Blake Lively. Well, I hate to break it to you, Team Blake, but I didn't sign a settlement agreement, and I'm totally free and emboldened to say whatever I want about you, including that you're a liar. You're a liar, and your legal team are a bunch of liars. Remember when you subpoenaed me in this case trying to get my documents on you? This happened. And they subpoenaed me, my company, and tried to come out after my documents that my team and I put together before we covered her on this show, before we interviewed Brian Friedman on this show.

45:27They actually had the gall to ask for my attorney-client communications between me and my lawyer, thinking we had nothing better to discuss than Blake Lively. And I told her to pound sand. I hired a lawyer, an outside lawyer, because Brian was handling this case. I didn't want him to have to be conflicted. And the lawyer went in, objected, and they lost. Okay, they were forced to stand down. And then she had the nerve when she was forced to stand down to come out and say, we never subpoenaed Megyn Kelly, which was a lie. I can show you the document with my name on it, asking for my documents. I had to hire a lawyer and go into court and defend it.

45:58And I won. So I know they're liars. And I know they're liars from the complaint that they filed against Justin, which Brian bit by bit undermined with proof, with proof that she had taken things out of context, that she was determined to paint herself as a victim. I'm telling you, this woman, Blake Lively, I think she has Munchausen's. If one word of what she alleged was sincere in her head, she has Munchausen's. Or like she tries to make something bad happen to her. She like insists that she has to be a victim because like something terrible has happened to her. It's like some form of Munchausen's.

46:34And either that or she's just a bald-faced liar who made the whole thing up because she understood that she was suffering PR-wise, thanks to her own bad deeds, and she wanted somebody to blame it on. She wanted someone to blame it on. The Daily Mail today, I want to give credit where it's due, I think it's the Daily Mail, not the Post, but is reporting not$1 exchanged hands. Not$1. TMZ He also has it. Not one dollar. He didn't pay her one red cent. Can you believe that? That is a total and complete victory for him with this anodyne statement and she dismisses all charges. It is a complete and total win for Justin Baldoni, and it is a complete and total surrender by Blake Lively and admission that she had no claims.

47:32She won't be forced to do it publicly. She was allowed to save face by just saying, oh, we settled it and give this statement. You know, we both agree on appropriate workplaces. And now she's going to run around and she's going to try to paint herself as like, I can't talk about it because of an NDA. But like, you know, wink, wink. We care about workplaces. And I care about women. I care. I deeply care. And the press is going to let her get away with that. But the public is not. And this is where I want to offer a free PR lesson to Blake Lively, to Meghan Markle, another person who wasn't at the Met Gala, even though her good friends, the Kardashians, were all there and very tight with the co-chair, Lauren Sanchez Bezos, couldn't quite manage to get an invite for that loser.

48:21But both women need the same lesson, and I am just the gal to provide it. When you come under withering attack by the media, which happens to virtually every public figure at one point or another in his or her life, there is only one play. Be quiet and take it. I know you can go out there and you can complain. You can fight back. It's fine to correct the record if somebody's saying, you know, you stole from a bank. It's fine for you to say that is not true. Ideally, without too much emotion, you can correct the record. But don't make a huge deal out of it. Don't call additional attention to the terrible things being said about you, right?

49:06Like, whatever. At least let time pass. You know, ideally months before you get out there and subtly say something about it. because it only calls more attention to the negative thing that's being said about you. And on top of that, Americans don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear it. They don't care about your PR problems, Blake Lively. You're married to Ryan Reynolds. He's reportedly worth$400 million. You yourself reportedly earned$21 million in the eight years preceding the filing of this lawsuit, according to those involved in the case. So you're earning, what,$4 million and change per film?

49:46That's not bad for you. You're really not that talented. You're really just the gossip girl actress. Your life is grand. You have four wonderful children. You live in some huge mansion, I think, up in Bedford, New York, or someplace in the sort of hills of Connecticut. You're doing great. Shut up. You got your liquor company. You got your hair company. Like, shut the fuck up about your bad PR, which amounted to like a month's worth of negative articles, which he didn't even generate. But honestly, even if he had, shut up. We don't care. America has its own problems and they look like real problems, not your stupid problems.

50:28I had bad things said about me in the Daily Mail or the New York Post. Oh, cry me a river. Remember, you ruined your own reputation by telegraphing to the world that you could not take a rhetorical punch in the face, that you were so thin skinned you had to run and file a lawsuit. And on top of that, try to ruin a man with less power than you. It's one thing for a bully to take on someone of equal or greater power. It's almost impossible, actually, to be dubbed a bully in those circumstances. If you have equal or the other person has greater power than you, you're not bullying them at all. that wasn't the case here she and her dragons Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds her best friend and her husband and Blake herself had way more power than Justin Baldoni and she was determined to ruin his life to dub him as a me-to-er as a sexual predator to misrepresent his emails his behavior on set that of his partners from Wayfarer and she did not care at all she just wanted to cloak herself in fake me-too glory She was a Me Too stolen valor thief.

51:34And had she just taken it, had she let us beat her up for her, admittedly, I mean, not admitted by her, but the rest of us admit, terrible behavior in her interview with that Nordic journalist. I like your baby, too. Why do they always ask us about her fashion? Would they ask that of the man? Parker Posey, you're awful, too. Had she just taken it? Because she would have realized, shit, I was bad there. I should have just, I mishandled that. and ideally issued an apology to that young woman. Had she come out and said, you know what, some of my tone around the promo of a domestic violence movie, it may have been off.

52:07Let me explain it to you in an interview. We actually thought maybe that was the better way to promote it, but now having seen it, I understand how it was perceived as insensitive. Whatever, you could have handled it like that, but instead you filed a lawsuit and you tried to viciously ruin a man's life. And for that, we do not forgive you. You haven't sought forgiveness. You don't seem sorrowful or regretful at all. In fact, I believe you'd do it again. So now you'll have to live with the consequences of calling attention to your own bad behavior, the reasons people disliked you, which got amplified, the Streisand effect, times 2 ,000.

52:43Everyone's seen these terrible clips of you, whereas they wouldn't have before. It would have been a small one-month deal at most. You're the one who made it an unforgettable two-year saga for all of us. And you ruined your career. no director wants to work with you they know you're going to do this to them they know you're a nightmare that you're a terrorist that's what the Sony executive who is responsible for putting this movie out called you a terrorist if the Sony guy is going to say that if you're going to do this to Justin Baldoni they've seen your out of context allegations and so on no one is going to want to work with you you're box office poison you did the same thing to yourself that Meghan Markle did to herself Justin Baldoni will emerge from this smelling like a rose.

53:27He looks victimized by you and like someone who decided not to take it lying down, who hired himself a very good lawyer, who was able to out you for exactly what you are. So you will not move on and sail off into the sunset with great movie roles or in high demand in Hollywood. You've reached the apex of your career. And you look, your life is still great. You have your great husband, you have your kids, you have your multi-million dollar estates. Enjoy them. Be quiet, reflect, try to learn, and maybe at some point in the future, come out and do the mea culpa. You owe us all, but most importantly, you owe Justin.

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55:29We've got more updates in the J.P. Morgan sex slave scandal, a brand new filing in this ex-banker now claiming that he has new evidence supporting his crazy allegations. This is a wild story and the update is crazy. Joining me in the studio are the hosts of the Red Scare podcast, Anna Kachian and Dasha Nekrasova. Ladies, welcome back. Thank you. So good to have you both. It's great to be here. We're just joking in the break that a lot's happened since the last time you were here. It has, yeah. Yeah, in all of our lives. Okay, before we start on the J.P. Morgan thing, because I've got a lot of thoughts, and I know you do too, let me ask you about our first two stories today.

56:10Did you watch any of the Met Gala last night? We sure did, yeah. Thoughts on the fashions and those in attendance? My favorite looks were Hunter Schaefer, Zoe Kravitz, and almost Kendall Jenner. I loved the dress, but her and Kylie both did the Skims nipple bra thing. Yeah. And we're up to something, yeah. Yeah, it's like promo. They're like hooking up a promo campaign. You're probably right. And they're going to make a million bucks. Yeah, they do. Everything they touch turns to millions. Yeah, though, I guess Kylie was wearing Schiaparelli. Am I saying that correctly? Down below. Kendall was wearing Gap Studio by Zach Posen.

56:50Oh, really? It was like a T-shirt. I thought the dress was fantastic. With the wings, I thought that was actually very cool. The dress was fantastic. I like that. It was. Zoe Kravitz, though, I thought she looked boring. It was like a black lace dress that I would wear on Halloween. But she's so lovely. I don't know. All right, so you're just rooting for her. And it was like goth princess. They took the neckline of the original design down. what did you make of lena dunham girls i loved it what did you love about it um just she's being herself like unapologetically herself she came in it's like an explosion well i love that she came up in there with like her ingrown hair scars and um her burn marks on her is that what that is the ingrown hairs on the legs just she's got there's she's there's blemishes, but she's owning it.

57:41But the legs, you don't get blemishes on your legs. What? There's marks all over her legs that are very weird. I don't know what happened to her. Well, she's a troubled person. Oh, so they could be burns? No, there's probably, who knows? I don't know either, but I mean, maybe she's just a klutz and they are tiny bruises, but there were a lot of them, and I found the whole thing very disturbing. I just, I don't think anybody wants to see that. I think it's so cool to accessorize with your skin problems because we spend all this time, like, minimizing yes you want to show them off yeah hell no i'm against it you know she and nicole kidman were doing kind of a similar look like sequins and feathers bright red and i think even though nicole kidman has like 20 years on her and is like a great hollywood beauty lena kind of mogged because she looked so out there so you're saying lena dunham wore it better yes oh wow people are gonna hate nicole kidman was kind of like okay it's fine she looked like she was in episode of white christmas yeah you know like at the end like okay but what was special about it you know like what was there was a lot of looks like that and like the theme i think ever since they tried to do camp and like no one could understand it they've made it more and more this year it was fashion is art yeah whatever that means the dressed body they kept saying which is like basically the bare minimum so they kept saying yeah the dress body that's about the A very dressed body.

59:03And I was like, well, they all certainly dressed their body. Isn't that what all fashion is, the dressed body? And then you always have Irina Shank, whatever her name is. She's always naked. Yeah, I guess this time she was doing like the Greco-Roman sculptural torso thing. It didn't really hit for me. But, you know, as Basha pointed out. Whatever the occasion. Yeah. Well, you can't play it. I know. But celebs are so dumb that they have to make the instructions really foolproof. and then they still manage to botch it every single time. So. And this theme was so vague and open-ended. Like, I really loved Hunter Schaefer's look because it was inspired by Gustav Klimt, like Vienna Secession.

59:44But you can't have a theme like that. I don't know what Hunter Schaefer is. I don't even know who Hunter Schaefer is. She's a famous transgender. Oh. On Euphoria. Was that the—oh, that was the one? No, yeah. You probably can't clock her. That's why. Yeah, yeah. She did cover this person. No, I think she shouldn't have looked—he should not be dressed like a nine-year-old girl. I mean— Ever. That's the fantasy. Ew, so gross. No, I object on behalf of nine-year-old girls everywhere. No, it's a no. It's a reference. Yeah, but it's an offensive one. Look, I'm done with the woke, trans, the one wheelchair-bound, transgender, cerebral palsy.

1:00:26There were like four other boxes. That person signed with what, elite models? Yeah, well, my question is if you're gay, black, trans, have cerebral palsy to all those things cancel each other out so that you become like the most desirable woman on the planet yes the most privileged there she is right the most exactly right it's like that episode of modern family when they're the two gay guys are trying to get their daughter their adopted asian daughter into school and they're like we got this made you know we're gay we have an asian daughter she's adopted and then in comes um lesbians one of whom is black they're like oh shit damn yeah she she's she out privileges everybody they had the midget but i guess she works for vogue she's the midget the dwarf dwarf sorry i can't the dwarf somebody can we put the dwarf somebody posted the the following who who ate melissa mccarthy or someone put melissa mccarthy in the dryer she shrunk like what's happening here why does she look so much like melissa mccarthy only in miniature it's very strange i'm not sure what's happening with the with the waving well what's really lacking ever since joan rivers died rest in peace is like no one now the met gala is just they have the most banal commentary no one takes them to desk for anything um who was it who wore like the dollar bill Sarah Paulson Sarah Paulson with the dollar bill over her eyes and it's like is that celebs are just getting away with too much yeah it's a comment on the elite on the one percent oh how rich they are they're blinded by with her tens of millions Sanchez yeah so she but she can she can comment on it yeah exactly you're at an event being hosted by Lauren Sanchez but you're there under protest yeah is that what you're trying to tell us but there was less of that there was no like aoc tax the rich dress there was it felt more i feel like we're healing a little bit okay if only we could return actual celebrities to the met gala then then we'd be all healed i was a little disappointed the um so ron mamdani and rama duwaji um declined the invitation because he could have played up to you saw a lot of like south indian heritage stuff going on yeah and she has such an art historical face she's like oh yeah it would have been a great thing for her She looks disturbingly like the man accusing the woman of J.C.

1:02:51Morgan. They look like the same person. I'm sorry. I know that there are memes online in which they've used AI to actually superimpose his face over hers. But the actual faces look disturbingly similar. But I credit him for not going because I think it's bullshit for AOC or Sarah Paulson to show up and be like, I'm here, but it's under protest. Good for him for being like, no, I don't believe in that. Goodbye. And his messaging, yeah, he's staying on task. Yeah. He's not going to get distracted with the galas. I appreciate that. I mean, I don't really want him to stay on task because he's ruining New York, but I appreciate the moral consistency of it.

1:03:29Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So now what do we make of the Baldoni Lively Settlement? The word is that she just, like this week, hired this very heavy hitting litigation firm to try to telegraph to him, oh, I'm going to trial. Like, I'll do it. and not surprisingly, his lawyer, Brian Friedman and team were not intimidated by that at all. Like he's an actual litigator who tries cases all the time. He's like, great, whoever you want. But the truth is she could not let this case go to trial. She could not let him cross-examine her. She could not take the stand. She was about to actually become Amber Heard and she had no choice but to act like she wanted to try the case all the way up until the end.

1:04:11And then she basically her case got gutted by the judge three weeks ago when he threw out all the sexual harassment claims and left her only with one tiny slice of it. And by the way, Baldoni was released from the case when the judge issued that. So the only defendants left were Wayfarer, his company, and the PR firm that they alleged was part of a retaliation campaign against her by allegedly pushing for bad press. And his defense was going to be, they never actually did plant the bad press. He hired them to get a game plan ready and they were absolutely prepared to do it, but they didn't have to.

1:04:46Because she did it to herself. Well, right. And that, I believe that now more than ever because she folded. Well, she must have, she was at the Met Gala. Yeah. Hated her look. So she must have anticipated being available. Yes. She looked like an orange sherbet, like a big sherbet, you know, that used to get when you were a kid with the three different flavors in there. Yeah. It was very Wuthering Heights. A movie I also hated. It's lazy to just do the long train. Right. It's been done. She snapped at the little male valets who were supposed to splay it out. The Daily Mail has this, look, there's a moment here.

1:05:23Look, look, here she goes. She's like, no. That's how I wanted it. Put it back down. She just can't, yeah. Get out of her own way. She needs the PR firm. See, this is why I can never be a celeb, not because I have a poor work ethic and suck at promoting myself. It's because I could never be pictured on camera. a snap like don't these people think of how it's going to look because they're being photographed and filmed all the time yes especially when your problem is people think you're a bully yeah yeah and a bully of like lesser empowered men right so what does she do that's not the way it's supposed to be i don't know what she said but that's that's my own dialogue superimposed over her um i don't i think she meant to appear like here's me in all my glory i'm back i've put this terrible thing behind me and it's just not going to be that easy.

1:06:12I mean, I just don't think the American public is that forgiving. I think they're very angry at her. I don't even know what this case is about. Really? What about you? You're in the biz. Not anymore. You got pushed out. But I think I saw her giving like an interview on the Vogue live stream where she claimed she was shy. Oh God. Which seems, I feel like, yeah, people can sense that she's disingenuous, but I think she'll continue to have a career because she's people ultimately, even though we have mixed feelings about divas, they end up prospering. Diva is one thing. Mariah Carey is a diva. I think JLo is a diva.

1:06:55You don't have to be talented to be a diva. Sometimes the - But they're bullies. That's different. Mariah's not a bully. J-Lo is not reportedly that much of a bully. Is she? I feel like Mariah Carey might be. Is she? I don't know. I'm not going to slander. I don't know. Well, anyway, but what Blake Lively is known for now is being a bully, which is people don't like. They really don't like that. It's not relatable. Like every character she plays, you're going to be like, who did she torture on that set? You know, somebody with lesser power. So I don't like her chances. The optics aren't great.

1:07:29They're not. But I feel like she's in so deep. she has no other choice than to dig her heels in and like own her reputation. Oh, interesting. I don't think she's aware of what the reputation is. I think she's going to go out there and continue playing the fake Me Too card. Last year at the Time 100, she got up there and gave this big speech about how her mother was allegedly a sexual assault victim. Wow. And it was like, okay, this feels inappropriate because it's your mom's story, but okay. And it was clearly an attempt to like glom on, you know, like. that's basically the same thing as it happening to me.

1:08:05See, I get it. Victimized by association. Yeah, so she, like, that's a year after she'd filed the lawsuit. Well, not a year, but it was months after. And she'd been taking a beating already in the press, and she still hadn't learned this isn't going well. So I just don't think she's that bright. If I was her, I would say, because the Baldoni movie was about domestic abuse, it ends with us. I would say that I was so deep in character that I got confused, that I was so in having inhabited the role. Oh, I like that. That I thought he was abusing me because I just, you know. I can go to that place with her.

1:08:38I mean, I just, I would like to watch her try to spin it at a minimum. That's what I would, that's what I would try to do. All right. By the way, why is there no fallout for Parker Posey who was equally bitchy in that one clip with a Nordic journalist? Do you ever, you know that? Parker Posey. Yes, wait, we have it. Look, I'm going to show you. Well, actresses have bad days. Justine Fla. Yeah. This is from 2016. it was when they were promoting the Woody Alley Film Cafe Society. And this is one of the things that brought such bad vibes toward Blake. She was so nasty to this sweet, I think she's a Swedish journalist, someplace up there, Sweden, Norway.

1:09:13And she is not pregnant. But Blake Lively, which you can't see in this clip, but was known, Blake Lively is eight months pregnant in this clip. So she did what most journalists will do when there's something very prominent about your guest and you make a passing reference to it just to get it out of the way for the audience and move on. and watch what happened. First of all, congrats on your little bump. Congrats on your little bump. What about my bump? You've got two nice ones. They are kind of bumps, aren't they? No, not bumps. The lovely lady lumps. Check it out. Thank you. You like the movie?

1:09:51Are you a Woody Allen fan? I love most of his movies, and this one was so visually amazing. Yeah, it's gorgeous. Did you guys love wearing those kind of clothes that you... Yeah. And, you know, working in digital... Everyone wants to talk about the clothes, but I wonder if they would ask the men about the clothes. I would. I love Jesse's suits and how he... That's what I'm saying. His wardrobe was beautiful. Corey's wardrobe was gorgeous. Those high-waisted pants. He's so great. I would wish men wore high-waisted pants like that still. Me too. Or their father with his tank top in bed. Oh, it's so good.

1:10:25Yeah, it's not just the women that have the clothes. I feel like the women get the conversation, but it's like. Okay. Parker Innocent. She's being diplomatic and quirk. She's trying to kind of save face. What year is this? It looks like it's from 2000. 16, but it didn't. What happened was Kijirsti, however you pronounce it. She did, her company, whatever she works for in Norway, they did put it out at the time. and then when she saw it ends with us and some of like the back and forth around her like the buzz around Blake she's like I'm re-releasing that clip and she actually said at the time I'm leaving this business it's a disgusting business I hate it I hate the people in it like I'm just sick of this bs and she had had trouble getting pregnant so she really didn't appreciate the like your baby bump you know so she left the business because an actress is a huge bitch to her no I think it was just like one of the many straws you know like i can't stand these people yeah i mean you've had to deal with these people like nothing bothers you i'm not a great fan of journalists either and they've been they've treated me worse than actresses present company accepted except for you yeah yeah i don't i i feel like the press is the worst but hollywood's not much better and speaking of which you we were laughing that since i last saw you you technically got canceled because you committed the same sin as Tucker Carlson.

1:11:51And he's coming on tomorrow. I've got all the canceled people because of Nick Puente's on the show this week because you had the temerity to interview him Thursday. Tucker's coming on. Yeah. So, and people were very, very angry because you're not allowed to like him because he's got this very racist strain when it comes to blacks and Jews and women and so on, racist, bigoted, whatever you want to call it. But he's got this other strain that is interesting. and so but you're not allowed to say that you can't even acknowledge it and you definitely can't interview it Dasha didn't anybody tell you that well I saw yeah I saw Tucker say that he regrets it and I actually also regret Tucker interviewing him because we had Fuentes on a month before and it wasn't no one cared I wasn't in trouble at all and then when Tucker had him on I'm just kidding that but yeah he's but the cat that's when the cascade of like denouncing started and then somebody went back and dug up your one person was especially yeah upset that person was me no uh no in the hollywood reporter there was that one guy who had been waging this crusade against me anyway it doesn't matter um i get it i get why he's like a no-no person why like the liberal establishment wouldn't want you to talk to him i don't i think it's totally hypocritical when I was reading the remarks that Tucker made in his New York Times interview where he talks about how he regretted having Fuentes on.

1:13:19And to me, it was kind of like sour grapes, even though I agreed with like other parts of the interview, because he says that the reason he regrets it is because it was a distraction from these other bigger issues. The problems that are facing us are primarily economic, not like demographic in nature. And I think he regrets it because, you know, let's face it, Nick Fuentes is much more popular among younger people. He really owned Tucker. He'll own anybody. And it's his moment now. He's ascendant. But I don't find anything controversial about even his most controversial remarks because they're very clearly meant as a half joke.

1:13:56And it's irrelevant whether he believes them or not. And I think that the liberal media is totally like complicit in it because they are fascinated by him much like they were fascinated by Donald Trump. And they want to keep him in the news because it feeds click. Yeah, yeah. And they always describe him as far right, which I'm like, I'm not sure that's right, but I understand why they're doing it. Well, they conflate it. They also, yeah. But before we had him on our show, there were two articles in the New York Times about him. One was about like Gripers and the MAGA movement, which isn't really like the nuances of how he even feels about Trump are kind of irrelevant.

1:14:34They just really needed someone. He's blackpilled. He's not red and he's not blue. No, my, I mean, my issue with him and the reason that I was, had concerns about having him on our show was that I felt that he was kind of an impediment to the health and future of the MAGA movement and was brought in or brought himself in. I don't think he's even like controlled or owned by anyone. I think it is organic momentum. Yeah, I don't think he's either. What his haters say. but you know he's a talented broadcaster and I liked him personally but my concern was always that he was brought into or he brought himself into like kind of subvert or take the piss out of that movement which ended up kind of doing it to themselves a little bit.

1:15:25The MAGA movement? Yeah but it's like the same thing you know it's the same thing as with Trump with like Trump derangement syndrome where the media loves these guys they feed off of them and then of course they They act all like shocked and outraged when someone else who's not on their team entertains them or interviews them. And, you know, by the end of that New York Times interview, the reporter was like positively haranguing Tucker about Fuentes. She was very focused on the Fuentes issue. Tucker definitely regrets it. I think it's because he just blew up so much in his face and he wasn't worth it for him.

1:16:00You know, I think he sort of thought he might be able to reach Fuentes in a way that might be helpful for the conservative movement. I think that's what Tucker thought. And that didn't happen. And the bomb blew up in his face. And he was like. And I caught a total stray. Yeah, yeah. He's like, this wasn't worth it. But I actually did. I had my team pull this together. This isn't because of you and defending Fuentes at all. I just want it. I always say when we talk about him, because I do feel the need to accurately represent him. he there's no question he's a very talented broadcaster and he's predicted a lot of things happening in the political sphere correctly but there's also no question that he says things that are extremely racist anti-semitic and misogynistic regularly so i actually just to show the audience because i constantly make this reference and i don't actually put up here's just some of what I'm talking about here in SOT 17.

1:16:54We're already a non-white country. Get a grip. Get real, bro. This is already, we already live in Mogadishu. We already live in Islamabad. Have you been outside LA, Chicago, New York? We live in nigger hell. And that's just what, and you know, it's what it is. Because everybody tells me you can't keep saying the N-word on the show. They're like, you can't, you gotta stop saying you gotta stop saying n-word faggot i'm like but it's so funny saying free palestine bro free america one of these third world niggers gonna say that because when i see 50 million illegal spics and apologies for the slur see i can say that one because i'm mexican it's not all you don't just get called a mexican white nationalist you also get to be racist against mexicans all in favor of a fat race mixer who's married to a jeet who named his son vivek that's a reference to jd and usha there at the end yeah that is it is shocking shocking yeah yeah are you being facetious i genuinely do find that shocking no no i guess it's extreme certainly but it's you know in the like for people who watch his show it's all in the context of like a stream and it's like because i can't see a world in which any of that is not offensive like i i I mean, it's meant to be offensive.

1:18:17Yeah. I mean, but I think he's also like revolting against the environment of like decorum and politics and like these arbitrary like moral pietes that were put in place by the Democrats, the liberals. and yet in his like enclosed space of his show with his audience he's obviously um totally offensive and no holds barred but kind of the most offensive thing about him is that um once his reputation started to get rehabilitated he started walking back a lot of these remarks did he yeah like now he's he likes to go on a stream or wherever and claiming that he's not racist or He has no hate in his heart.

1:18:58Did he used to say I'm racist? Well, I mean, I believe him because we've all said crazy, outrageous things on our shows. Yes, but there's what we say, which is politically incorrect and doesn't necessarily kowtow to the woke left. And then there's the N-word over and over and that J-word for Indians. And, you know, take your pick. And I can even give you the point that, like, it's strange how much energy we've put behind, in particular, the N-word. we've empowered that word well beyond what we should, because it's just, we've given it too much power to hurt black Americans. You know what I mean?

1:19:31It's like, I wish we could, we would disempower that word, but we haven't. And so to hear like that, like a white man cannot be the one to, to disempower that word that has to be done if at all by black Americans. And it's just like, why do it? Why be that provocative? Cause he's also saying, you know, he's talking about blacks in the inner city in a way that groups them all. And, you know, he's got racial stereotypes. He's got female stereotypes. I mean, all the things that would lead any rational person to think you are racist, you're sexist, and you're definitely anti-Semitic. He's a racist guy.

1:20:07He's offensive. Yeah. I don't think he's going to deny that. Yeah. So that's so interesting to me, but you just don't care. You still just want to talk to him. I mean, at the time he was doing all, he was going on a whole podcast circuit. He, you know. Yeah. And I felt that the Overton window had shifted in terms of like, he didn't say things like that on our show. Yeah. You know, he didn't say things like that on Tucker. Yes. Well, the things he says in the confines of his stream, it's his stream. I think this guy was probably so - I don't endorse it. He was like so debanked and deplatformed that he felt comfortable doing that because he probably felt there was no way back.

1:20:43And, you know, now that he's - Ben Shapiro throttled him in the crib. Yes. Ben Shapiro did throttle him in the crib. That's true. And he was canceled and put on the no fly list for some reason when he was very, very young. I mean, that'll have a way of radicalizing people. But I had my team pull this yesterday. I don't know if you guys, I didn't even tell you I might use it today. But Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes interviewed the grand wizard of the KKK in his hat, in his little outfit with his pointy hat. So it actually is a time-honored tradition amongst those who do interviews for a living to talk to the most controversial people in the world.

1:21:23Why wouldn't you? The difference is Mike Wallace grilled him, you know, and like held him to account. I mean, we pushed back. We talked about, you know, I said, I don't think the jury is as like cohesive. You know, obviously there's left-wing Jews and right-wing Jews and they have different interests. And, you know, we pushed back on him, but we don't take this like hysterical tone. Look, there it is. There it is. And the SPLC financed that. Yeah, exactly. The SPLC paid for that hat. And everybody from Noam Chomsky to Glenn Greenwald, all these like, you know. Glenn had him on. It used to be the norm that liberal Jewish pundits and journalists defended freedom of speech and said, you know, you can talk to anyone.

1:22:10And that was always the idea. So now you have, like, I think, you know, Tucker called it childish and morally repulsive. And it is because you have this, like, double standard, this hypocritical thing in place where you can't talk to these people under any circumstances. But yet the liberal media wants to talk about them. Talk about them. Yeah. But wait, but. Or you can talk to them, but only if, yeah, you have this, like, scolding hysteria. Yes. Well, that's why I don't want to interview him because I have no interest in doing the, you know, playing him that soundbite. Yeah. And having him explain all.

1:22:46Like, I just, I have no appetite for it whatsoever. And I don't think I could do an interview with him without raising all the stuff he says. Well, did you see Piers Morgan? Yes. I thought it was pointless. I love Piers, but I thought it was pointless. It made Piers just so out of touch. Yeah. Well, it's like then if all these things are deal breakers for you, as they are for me, then don't interview him. Then don't platform him. Don't promote him. You know, everybody feels differently about it. But I have to be honest, I care about like sexism if it's in the extreme. Like I interview a lot of people who come on this show who are sexist.

1:23:17I have to be honest, I'm not going to name them, but who I know have views of, you know, the modern American woman that I do not share at all. It doesn't bother. Like I don't care and I don't feel the need to bring it up every time they're on and make those the stakes of the discussion. I don't know. I find them kind of interesting. but then when I think about like would a black journalist ever want Nick Fuentes gaining purchase in the mainstream or a black listener or viewer want that guy getting purchase in the mainstream when he's saying that word over and over like he doesn't demonize all blacks from what I understand on his show I think he's a friend of the blacks I don't think he has like deep hate in his heart how about the Jews though well you know Even the Jews.

1:24:02He says some of his best friends are Jewish. Many such cases. I don't know. I have to be honest. I feel like on this guy, I've got one hand tied behind my back because I don't watch Nick Fuentes. I just know what others tell me. And Victor Davis Hanson was the one who first told me that he uses the N-word all the time. So I had my team go back and check. And sure enough, he does. Not just that. Hey, he does. And I feel like he has upper-limited himself by doing that. Sure. No, definitely. And, you know, he like karma comes for everyone. He's going to have to pay for that down the line. I'm sure he's aware.

1:24:35He already has. You know, we caught a lot of flack for having him on because people felt that we had softballed him. And I don't think that we did that at all. We did, in fact, push back on him. But like it would have been a totally different and less effective interview if we had come in hot, you know, scolding and accusing. You would have got nothing from him. Yeah. Yeah. He would have clammed right up. Well, that's actually Tucker's own defense for his interview of Ted Cruz. He says the reason he was very tough on Ted Cruz and not Nick Fuentes is because he was basically called an anti-Semite by Ted Cruz seven minutes in and didn't really get things off on a good note.

1:25:11Well, I understand. You guys do something different on your show. You're not confrontational. It does seem like you'll talk to anybody. And your whole thing to me, now having known you guys for a while, seems to be non-judgment. You're just kind of like, I mean, we passed. I mean, yeah. You've got opinions. Yeah. But you're not, I wouldn't describe you as judgmental of really anybody. You're just kind of like. We're judgmentally non-judgmental. And I am a free speech absolutist. Yeah. And I, you know, think Nick is interesting. Yes, right. That's your sin. Yeah. That's why that's what got you canceled in Hollywood.

1:25:45Right. So your agency dumped you. Does that mean no more work ever? Like nobody will hire you. I don't know. I think we'll see. maybe you'll maybe you'll self-produce your next project uh i think that's what blake lively's gonna have to do maybe mel gibson could get in touch with me i know he's had some trouble yes um the whole institutional landscape is changing so rapidly and um yeah there's a crisis of faith in every institution nobody really like believes in hollywood anymore except for like Yeah, Hollywood's down pretty bad. It's true. It's true. You see that with the Met Gala, too, by the way, when people, you know, are debating the theme and whether people executed it faithfully.

1:26:30It's like, well, the Met Gala hasn't been an A-list event for at least a decade now. It's a D-list event. Yeah, I know. It's embarrassing. There's a reason Meryl Streep is like, it's a no. No, yeah. Again. Sure. Okay, let's stand by. When we come back, we're going to do the JP Morgan update, which is crazy. Now this guy's back. He's filed, he's refiled his lawsuit and he submitted not one, but two affidavits from third parties allegedly supporting his allegations against this gal. We'll take it up next. Don't go away. When it comes to supplements, there are two things that matter most. It has to work and it has to be something you can trust.

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1:30:14The hosts of Red Scare are back with me now, and we've got to dig into the J.P. Morgan lawsuit because it's back. So the plaintiff has been outed, even though he tried to go under John Doe. So his name is Chiraya Rana, and he is suing J.P. Morgan and its executive Lorna Hajdini, claiming that she made his life a living hell while he was at J.P. Morgan. That she sexually harassed him, threatened him, held his bonus over his head in order to make him give her oral sex and have sex with her in order to make him allow her to perform oral sex on him while he allegedly cried the whole time. He was crying.

1:30:55uh he claims she roofied him yeah how do you have sex with a roof and viagra also viagra did they i don't think that's how it works i agree i agree i think this is one of the problems of his claims i think roofied means roofied yeah right i don't think like so what like he was passed out you when you're roofied you can't lift your arms and legs your appendages can't move Right. So just the Viagra goes just right to that one appendage. Just like the one is at attention. Yeah. And she's having fun with it while he's completely passed out. I don't think so. That's that doesn't seem not adding on.

1:31:31No, it's such a heartwarming feel good story, though. Why? Well, after all the friction and chaos of the last few news cycles, it's nice to have something that's like purely a meme back in the news. And it's also funny because it's like actually like an epic media battle between our last two remaining papers of record, which are like the Daily Mail and the New York Post. The Daily Mail broke the story and then the New York Post debunked it. Yes. And they're like really feuding over the scrap. And it's also obviously a newsroom drama. It's a reverse me too. I know it's got it all. Yeah. Yeah. So two things now.

1:32:12It has come out that he pretended his dad was dead to get bereavement leave from J.P. Morgan. But the dad is alive and well and spoke to the New York Post this weekend. Yeah. Uh huh. OK. So we must point out this man, in addition to the allegations of the complaint, which make this clear, has got some serious credibility problems. There he is with his parents, his dad. This is, I guess, recent, but his dad is definitely alive, notwithstanding what he told J.P. Morgan, which is that he's dead and he needed a bereavement leave. And I guess his defense to this is, well, I needed to write my complaint.

1:32:46I needed time to work on my complaint. And I couldn't say that. So I said, my dad is dead, which why don't you just do it in your spare time? That's what evenings and weekends are for. I know. Right. He probably wasn't very good at his job. No, and this is like so immigrant kid filling out college admissions essay where like this is my sad immigrant story. And also my mom has cancer. It's just like Nick Fuentes totally vindicated about his with his screeds on immigration because it's like different honor codes. Though to their credit, when they interviewed the dad, he said, my son, he's a good boy.

1:33:18Great kid. So they don't throw their own family members under the bus. Yeah. I appreciate that. It's fine. That's what I'm here for. Okay. But notwithstanding that very bad piece of PR for this plaintiff, it emerges as he refiles his complaint, which was withdrawn for, quote, corrections, that he's got alleged witnesses to Lorna's supposed bad behavior. And I'll go through a couple of them. They're anonymous as far as we know, but they have details and quotes and describe alleged encounters between this guy, Chiraya Rana, and Lorna over the relevant time frame. Okay, in his new filing, one alleged witness, who appears to be a family friend of his, says he was staying at an apartment while visiting New York City and was woken up, this is the witness, by Hajdini's drunken antics in the middle of the night.

1:34:16the other anonymous affirmation, seemingly from the owner of the apartment where the family friend was staying, right, so you've got one of his friends and you've got somebody who owns the apartment in which it's all happening. Claims that he saw Hajdini kissing Rana's neck on the street sometime during summer of 2024. Now that doesn't show harassment. If it's true, it shows maybe they had a relationship of some sort. And then says in September of 2024, she, the owner of the apartment, overheard them entering the apartment building, recalling Hajdini saying something that sounded like, I own you, brownie!

1:34:52This is a theme. All of the dialogue that he has in his complaint, to me, reads exactly like what a very nerdy Indian guy who never had any social life or girlfriend would imagine it would sound like if somebody were harassing him or if people were leaving him voicemails like, okay, brown boy. It's a total male fantasy of female desire. but also like with like a cultural with a racial psychosexual element right i mean like he he wants it to be true that she's like uh threatening to ruin his life and like stomping on his balls and her stilettos or whatever like even when the original story broke and i was reading some of the dialogue and you know she was like fondling her breasts and referring to them as canon no No woman, no matter how assertive or high-tier or high-powered, working in a man's world, ever would use that word.

1:35:44No, ever. Ever. That is fan fiction. It just doesn't make any sense because women all want to feel small and submissive in the context of a sexual scenario. And even the small percentage of women out there who might have dominant sexual proclivities, they still don't talk like that. No, no. And I also take issue with the notion that she forced oral sex on him and he cried the whole time. Bullshit. That did not happen. I don't believe one word of that. But okay, I digress. It's not for me because I'm not the jury. Okay, so back to the legal filing. The witness who said he was a family friend and came for a visit in this apartment with Shirayu Rana.

1:36:29This is dad. who knows says uh it was september 13th 2024 or thereabouts this guy attended a concert held at the barclays center in brooklyn with his brother during the concert my brother and i walked around to different parts of the venue at one point i spotted redacted sitting with a group i think they mean the guy i was apparently one or two seating sections away from him at the time i observed a woman sitting next to him yeah it's it's the two of them the woman was very handsy gals with this woman putting her hands on his lap, back, legs, and lap again. In addition, she put her face very close to his, I guess, and appeared to be speaking into his ear.

1:37:09He sat facing forward. He did not look comfortable with the situation because I did not know the woman. I did not stop by to say hello. Then later, this is the same witness, September of 2024, same month. I was visiting New York. I stayed at his apartment. When visiting New York, I sometimes stay there. Okay, let's see. On that night, I had plans to go out for drinks together. However, when it became late, I went to sleep on the couch in the living room. In the middle of the night, I was awoken by the sound of a woman who was clearly intoxicated. I'm speaking very loudly. I should have you read this.

1:37:43You're the actress. Shortly after Redacted entered the apartment with the woman. He's talking about these two. He asked the woman to please be quiet, but she loudly refused and said she would not be quiet. He later told me that the woman was Lorna Hajdini, a woman with whom he worked. He and Mrs. Hajdini, Ms. Hajdini, went into the bedroom, and I attempted to go back to sleep. A short while later, I was awoken by Ms. Hajdini, who was completely naked. Naked, I say. Ms. Hajdini sat on the couch and lit a cigarette. It's possible. I can see it. Yeah, I mean, I can see it. She then asked me to come into the bedroom with her.

1:38:25This is the third party witness. And join them. I told her no. She again said, come join, come join. I again told her no. She then said, you know, I own, what's his name? So you'd better come join. I continued to say no. Eventually, Ms. Hajdini got up from the couch and went back into the bedroom and closed the door. Through the door, a short distance away, I could hear arguing. And I could hear him loudly pleading with her to stop, to leave. And I heard him say, no, no, no, you have to leave. I'm not going to do this. Please stop. She's already naked and he's saying all this. Okay. It became quiet.

1:39:03Then sometimes later, sometime later, she came out of the bedroom, left the apartment. A few moments after that, he came out of the apartment in a state of shock and embarrassment. He then told me about how she constantly harassed him and had forced him to engage in sexual behavior with her on a number of occasions. He told me she had frequently said things to him like, I'm in charge of you and I will get what I need from you. And if you don't comply, there will be trouble at the OK Corral. He told me that this had been a big problem going on in his life for some time. In later conversations, he reiterated his concern that she was blackmailing him, forcing him to engage in sexual acts and also to provide help with her career and that she constantly threatened to harm his career if he did not.

1:39:43Although he was not comfortable explaining the specifics of his experiences with her, I recall him telling me she had shown him naked pictures of herself. He also told me on the night in September when I was staying there, she had sexually assaulted him in the bedroom. That's basically it. I don't believe one word of it. Not one. Not one, right? Would any man, let alone a man who's involved in a lawsuit, to shoot down the opportunity to, like, Eiffel Tower a naked woman with his buddy? I doubt it. Wait, what's the Eiffel Tower? When she beckoned him into the bedroom. It's a threesome? Yeah. Why does an Eiffel Tower mean a threesome?

1:40:26It's a style of... Sorry I said that. Because the way an Eiffel Tower is shaped. Oh. I sort of get it. I could draw it for you. We'll talk later. Yeah, it seems totally fake. But I guess my question is, like, what's the purpose? And did he really think he could get away with this? I guess maybe he thought she would just, maybe they did have some, though I doubt that also, honestly, that they had some kind of relationship, that she would be so ashamed that she would sort of want it settled. She would just pay. Yeah. And J.B. Morgan would pay. Yeah. Who do you think this person is? Because if this, you know, if he's making this up, he has now two witnesses who are willing to lie under oath.

1:41:13Uh-huh. Or maybe he's making them up too. He's like their family friends, cousins. Clannish. Clannish tribe. His girlfriend in Canada. Yeah. And I'm thinking that they probably did have an affair, you know, usual, kind of like Eric Swalwell and his former staffer. Yeah, because he had to have had some leverage. I doubt he made this up entirely out of whole cloth, but who knows? My thinking is because all of the details are so kind of fantastic and humiliating and with the wishful fantasy of this dominant woman, it's possible that he could just be lying all cloth because he has a humiliation fetish.

1:41:58But even to admit any of this already would be so humiliating, but maybe that's the goal. Here's what I want to know. If any of this is true, why didn't he provide the evidence of it to JP Morgan when they investigated it? Nothing. They say he provided nothing. She gave full cooperation, that she gave her cell phone over, she gave all of her email records, she gave everything saying this is a lie and he gave nothing and was conveniently unavailable to deal with them. Okay, so it's fake. Yeah. Maybe he's just, maybe it's just the humiliation kink. At most, yeah. And he's just after chasing that.

1:42:28He also, it has come out, went on one of those legal websites 10 months before this. Yes, I saw this. You know, like it wasn't legal film, but it was one of those type of, you know, where, and he plugged in all these details that kind of dovetail this lawsuit, except he described his harasser as a he and a man. and said he was with Morgan Stanley, not JPMorgan Chase. Now it's possible, I could argue that one both ways. He had details that didn't jive, like is your harasser this Lorna or is it he? Did this happen to you at JPMorgan Chase or at Morgan Stanley? He's worked at like multiple banks over the past 10 years, which is also sketchy in my opinion.

1:43:12But I could also argue it that maybe this helps his credibility because he went on a legal website and was looking for legal advice on what to do with alleged harassment he was undergoing. Or maybe he knew in advance that he would be... Playing the long game. Making this false suit. Did the legal website not advise him to report the evidence to... They connected him with a lawyer. And I don't know whether that's his lawyer. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So who knows? More will be revealed, I guess. All these months later. Okay, then secondly, in the time we have left, there's a second witness.

1:43:44I've lived in a one-bedroom apartment here. This guy sometimes visits my apartment with a family friend. At some point, I had conversations with him. He mentioned an issue he was having with a woman at work who was harassing him and trying to blackmail him. He was not comfortable telling me details, but kept saying this woman was making his life hell. I told him I wanted to see what this person looked like, and he showed me a profile picture. I believe it was Lorna. Around dusk, I was leaving my apartment one day. I saw her standing across the street at the intersection. Oh, no, not her. Him, this guy.

1:44:14He appeared to be waiting for the light to change to cross toward my apartment. He was with a woman. I recognized her to be Ms. Hajdini. While they stood there, this woman was standing very close to him. She had her face in his neck and appeared to be kissing his neck. I also saw her grab his, she grabbed his rear end. His head was turned away from the woman as if to avoid the interaction. He did not appear interested in the woman. And I did not see him reciprocate in any way. Again, this just sounds like. I mean, just look at him. Yeah, why would a girl like that go for a guy like him? And she's very good looking.

1:44:41She's pretty attractive. and provided the cell phone. That's what a truth teller does. Maybe this guy will prove us all wrong, and he will produce some silver bulletproof. Yeah, she's so cute. I know. She's adorable. And she's currently getting her reputation ruined by this guy because he tried to go anonymous, but he used her name at every turn. And where is his fish head wife in all of this? Yes. There are so many apartments. That's right. That's a good question. Where is the wife? That's right. If she's at the apartment soliciting his friends for threesomes, like, where is the wife? That is a very good question.

1:45:19He keeps like a bachelor pad to cheat on his wife. Yes. What's going on? This is a very relevant question. Thank you for asking that because that has not been cleared up. I think you may have just cracked the case. That may be the key detail that does it. Well, we'll continue to follow the saga because we want to know what happens. So far, I think this is complete bullshit and I'm entirely on her side. open-minded to being proven wrong, however. Okay. We are back tomorrow with, how about this for a turn? Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. We're looking forward to that and much, much more. We'll see you then.

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