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The Megyn Kelly Show: Episode Summary
Episode Title
Nancy Guthrie Ransom Deadline Passes, Maxwell Takes Fifth, Musk Pivots to Moon City: AM Update 2/10
Episode Description
This episode discusses the ongoing search for missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, developments in Ghislaine Maxwell's legal situation, the Trump administration's response to immigration reports, and Elon Musk's updated plans for space exploration.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance
- Current Situation:
- The search for Nancy Guthrie has entered its tenth day with no proof of life.
- A ransom deadline of $6 million in Bitcoin has passed without communication from the alleged kidnappers.
- Family's Plea:
- Savannah Guthrie, Nancy's daughter, publicly appeals for assistance, emphasizing the family's belief that Nancy is still alive and urging the public to report any suspicious activity to law enforcement.
- Investigation Insights:
- Pima County Sheriff's Office reports no significant updates.
- Questions arise about the legitimacy of the ransom notes, with experts suggesting that a true kidnapping would typically involve more direct communication with the family.
- Ghislaine Maxwell's Deposition
- Legal Proceedings:
- Ghislaine Maxwell, currently serving a 20-year sentence for her involvement in Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes, pleads the Fifth Amendment during a House Oversight Committee deposition.
- Her attorney claims that she would cooperate if granted clemency by former President Trump.
- Political Reactions:
- Oversight Committee members criticize Trump for not ruling out a pardon for Maxwell, framing her deposition as a ploy for clemency.
- Trump Administration and Immigration Policies
- Controversial Report:
- A CBS report alleges that only 14% of individuals arrested by ICE in the Trump administration had violent criminal records, contradicting claims that the immigration crackdown targets the "worst of the worst."
- Administration's Response:
- DHS officials push back against the report, asserting that many of those arrested had serious criminal histories.
- Discussions around prioritizing criminal offenders in immigration enforcement, with a focus on ensuring public safety.
- Elon Musk's Space Plans
- Mission Shift:
- Elon Musk announces a strategic pivot from colonizing Mars to building a self-sustaining city on the Moon.
- The change is motivated by the quicker feasibility of a lunar city compared to a Martian settlement.
- Future Objectives:
- Musk outlines the logistical challenges of establishing a civilization on Mars and emphasizes the importance of the Moon for rapid development and iteration.
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Key Takeaways
- Family and Community Involvement: The Guthrie family's emotional appeal highlights the critical role of community vigilance in ongoing searches for missing persons.
- Legal Maneuvering: Maxwell's invocation of the Fifth Amendment raises questions about accountability and clemency in high-profile cases.
- Immigration Debate: The contrasting narratives regarding ICE operations illustrate the complexities and political tensions surrounding immigration policies.
- Space Exploration Dynamics: Musk's new focus on the Moon reflects shifting priorities in space exploration, emphasizing the need for sustainable projects before tackling Mars.
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Conclusion This episode of *The Megyn Kelly Show* encapsulates major current events, weaving together themes of family desperation, legal intrigue, political controversy, and the future of human exploration. Tune in for deeper discussions and insights in Megyn Kelly's upcoming broadcasts.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONancy Guthrie's Ransom Deadline Passes
0:50 to 1:58
Discussion on the ongoing search for Nancy Guthrie and the ransom situation.
“All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.”
Public Plea from Savannah Guthrie
2:36 to 4:53
Savannah Guthrie's emotional appeal for help in locating her mother.
“She was taken and we don't know where and we need your help.”
Questions About Kidnapping Legitimacy
4:53 to 6:20
Analysis of the legitimacy of the kidnapping case based on law enforcement updates.
“If you're a good kidnapper, you're going to grab the medication on the way out the door because you're going to have to take care of her.”
Ghislaine Maxwell's Deposition
6:20 to 8:11
Coverage of Ghislaine Maxwell's deposition and her legal challenges.
“Maxwell filing a habeas petition challenging her conviction in December, a last-ditch, long-shot legal effort, after the U.S.”
Trump Administration and Immigration Report
10:07 to 14:00
Discussion on the Trump administration's immigration policies and recent CBS report.
“He knows pipes, tools, and long days on the job.”
Musk's Vision for Moon City
14:00 to 17:02
Explore Elon Musk's shift from Mars colonization to building a city on the moon.
“last month effectively replacing Border Patrol commander Greg Bovino, whose more aggressive public-facing enforcement drew backlash and political fallout.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Tuesday, February 10th, 2026. And this is your AM update. We believe our mom is still out there. We need your help. The search for missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie enters its 10th day as the ransom deadline passes with no proof of life and Savannah Guthrie issues a new plea. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer this question and any related questions. Ghislaine Maxwell pleads the fifth in an oversight committee deposition. The Trump administration pushing back on a new report suggesting its immigration crackdown is missing the worst of the worst.
0:42And Elon Musk hitting pause on his mission to Mars, shifting SpaceX toward building a lunar city. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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2:06As of 5 p.m. Mountain Time last night, the alleged kidnapper's deadline to pay$6 million in Bitcoin ransom came and went. Just hours before that deadline, Savannah Guthrie posting a new video on her Instagram account, this one addressing the public instead of the abductor or abductors. I wanted to come on and just share a few thoughts as we enter into another week of this nightmare. I just want to say, first of all, thank you so much for all of the prayers and the love that we have felt, my sister and brother and I and that our mom has felt because we believe that somehow some way she is feeling these prayers and that God is lifting her even in this moment and in this darkest place.
2:58We believe our mom is still out there. We need your help. She was taken and we don't know where and we need your help. So I'm coming on just to ask you not just for your prayers but no matter where you are, even if you're far from Tucson. If you see anything, if you hear anything, if there's anything at all that seems strange to you, that you report to law enforcement, we are at an hour of desperation. Many noting a markedly more natural cadence in her latest message, a shift from earlier. The Pima County Sheriff's Office yesterday issuing yet another update without much of an update at all. Journalist Brian Enten reporting the FBI says it is not aware of any continued communication between the Guthrie family and the suspected kidnappers, nor have they identified any suspects or persons of interest at this time.
3:53Veteran homicide investigator Paul Cialino telling the New York Post he does not think the ransom notes were legitimate. I don't think she was kidnapped. We would have heard, listen, there would have been a video, there would have been a photograph, after it had been something, a lock of hair, a drop of blood, something mailed to somebody so they could verify, yes, in fact, these people have my mother. Kidnappers want to get paid quickly. They don't want this thing to linger. If you're negotiating with another drug dealer in South America somewhere, it could go on for a few weeks, a month, until they get bored and decide this is not worth it.
4:28And it's either pay up or we're going to kill this person. And it's always a negotiation, right? The first figure that I threw out is never what actually gets paid, like any good business deal. There's going to be a negotiation, but it's going to be a fast and hard one. And there's been no negotiations. No one's called up and said, hey, where's my money? That hasn't happened. For a simple reason is nobody's kidnapped her, I don't think. If you're a good kidnapper, you're going to grab the medication on the way out the door because you're going to have to take care of her. You're going to have to keep her alive and healthy, right?
5:01So it shows a total lack of planning. Major questions still remain, including what Nancy's full pacemaker data shows, what proof exists that Nancy did in fact return home on Saturday night, and why investigators returned to daughter Annie's home over the weekend, taking photographs for several hours in the dark of the evening, a location the local sheriff's office said they intended to return to again last night. MK True Crime host Phil Holloway is on the ground for us in Tucson. He'll bring exclusive reporting to The Megyn Kelly Show later this afternoon. Convicted Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell appearing virtually before the House Oversight Committee yesterday for a deposition tied to the committee's bipartisan investigation into the DOJ's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case.
5:51As expected, Maxwell pleading the fifth, declining to answer any questions. Maxwell currently serving a 20-year prison sentence for her role in Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse and her own misconduct as well. Here, a moment from the taped deposition. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer this question and any related questions. My habeas petition is pending in the Southern District of New York. I therefore invoke my right to silence under the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Maxwell filing a habeas petition challenging her conviction in December, a last-ditch, long-shot legal effort, after the U.S.
6:32Supreme Court declined to hear her appeal in October. Congressman Andy Biggs, Republican from Arizona, and Chairman James Comer yesterday describing Maxwell's deposition to reporters. The attorney for Ms. Maxwell said that she has no indication and would say that neither presidents Trump or Clinton are culpable for any wrongdoing. And that's one thing they said in his opening statement to us today. Just to be clear, what the what her attorney said, Maxwell didn't say her attorney said that she would answer questions if she were granted clemency by by the president Trump. Maxwell's attorney, David Oscar Marcus, posting to X, quote, Ms.
7:18Maxwell is prepared to speak fully and honestly if granted clemency by President Trump. Only she can provide the complete account. Some may not like what they hear, but the truth matters. Oversight Committee Democrats now blaming President Trump for Maxwell's continued refusal to cooperate. Here, Congressman James Walkinshaw of Virginia, Congressman Suhas Subramanian of Virginia, and Congresswoman Melanie Stansbury of New Mexico. What we did get was another episode in her long-running campaign for clemency from President Trump. And President Trump could end that today. He could rule out clemency for Ghislaine Maxwell the monster.
8:00Ghislaine Maxwell should have no hope of ever getting out of prison. And so we will continue to call for this president to completely rule out a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell. She is not being released from jail unless, of course, Donald Trump buys what she's selling. She is exactly where she's supposed to be in terms of her conviction, and she needs to go back to the prison where she belongs. President Trump aboard Air Force One in November had this to say about a possible pardon. Have you pulled out a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell? I haven't even thought about it. I mean, I haven't thought about it for months.
8:37Maybe I haven't thought about it at all. You're just asking me a question. But I don't talk about that. I don't roll it in or out. I don't even think about it. Maxwell transferred in August to a lower-security federal prison camp in Texas, an apparent concession for earlier cooperation in an interview with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. The Oversight Committee's investigation continues. Many depositions set for the coming weeks, including former Victoria's Secret CEO Les Wexner on February 18th. That ought to be a good one. and Hillary and Bill Clinton on February 26th and 27th, respectively.
9:14Coming up, the Trump administration responding to a new report suggesting the admin is not, as it claims, targeting the worst of the worst in its immigration crackdown. And Elon Musk's SpaceX mission to Mars delayed as the team shifts its priorities to building a city on the moon.
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11:03The report stating, quote,
11:22CBS's immigration correspondent Camilo Montoya-Galvez, digging deeper into the findings. The internal DHS document that we obtained here at CBS News shows that over the past year, the second Trump administration, specifically ICE, has arrested about 400 ,000 individuals who are suspected of being in the country illegally. About 40 % of those 400 ,000 immigrants did not have any criminal record here in the U.S., meaning that they were being held solely because of civil immigration violations, like living in the country without permission. About 60 % did have some kind of criminal charge or conviction, But the numbers show that most of those criminal offenses were nonviolent in nature, and only 14 percent included violent crimes like murder, homicide and sexual assault.
12:06According to CBS, 10.9 percent of those arrested by ICE had assault charges or convictions, with smaller percentages for crimes like homicide and robbery. The Trump administration pushing back hard on CBS's interpretation of those numbers. DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin writing on X, quote, Drug trafficking, distribution of child pornography, burglary, fraud, DUI, embezzlement, solicitation of a minor, human smuggling are all categorized as nonviolent crimes. McLaughlin also writing that about 70 % of illegal immigrants arrested under President Trump and Secretary Noem have pending criminal charges or prior convictions.
12:48We asked McLaughlin about the discrepancy between her numbers and the alleged memo CBS has in its hands. She told us the department is not familiar with the specific document CBS is referencing, saying it has not been shared with DHS by the news outlet. Fox News reporter Bill Malusian adding further context on X, posting, quote, none of Lakin Riley, Jocelyn Nangare, and Rachel Morin's illegal alien killers had any violent criminal history beforehand. President Trump getting re-elected in 2024 while promising to conduct the largest mass deportation effort in human history following years of an open border under President Joe Biden.
13:29NBC News reporting yesterday on a June interview with President Trump's border czar Tom Homan featured in the forthcoming book Undue Process, the inside story of Trump's mass deportation program. In that interview, Homan stressing the importance of prioritizing criminal offenders, saying, quote, I think the vast majority of the American people think criminal illegal aliens need to leave, and if we stick to that prioritization, I think we keep the faith of the American people, and we've got to do it in a humane manner. Homan arriving in Minnesota last month effectively replacing Border Patrol commander Greg Bovino, whose more aggressive public-facing enforcement drew backlash and political fallout.
14:09Homan now working to increase cooperation with local authorities while emphasizing a continued focus on targeting criminal offenders. President Trump, in an interview with NBC News last week, reflecting on how the fallout from Minnesota is influencing who the administration targets for deportation. I learned that maybe we can use a little bit of a softer touch, but you still have to be tough. These are criminals. We're dealing with really hard criminals. SpaceX founder Elon Musk delaying the rocket company's mission to colonize Mars, now focusing on, quote, building a self-growing city on the moon.
14:48My goal is to walk more. Musk founding SpaceX back in 2002 with the goal of reducing the cost of space travel and ultimately enabling humans to live on Mars. Eight months ago, Musk announcing plans to launch five unmanned ships to Mars as early as this year. Musk previously describing the massive logistical challenge of building a self-sustaining civilization on the Red Planet during a SpaceX town hall. We need to get about a million tons, is my guess, to the surface of Mars to make a civilization on Mars self-sustaining. And getting to that critical point where if the resupply shifts from Earth stop coming for any reason, Mars still succeeds.
15:29Mars can still grow. And so you can't be missing anything. You can't be missing even like the equivalent of vitamin C or anything. You've got to have everything you need for Mars to grow. That's essential. So my guess is that's about a million tons, but it might be 10 million tons. I hope it's not 100 million tons. That'd be a lot. But we want to try to get to that point and secure the future of civilization as quickly as possible. On Friday, the Wall Street Journal reporting, SpaceX has now told investors it is pivoting, aiming first to establish a city on the moon before we colonize Mars. The move marking a notable reversal.
16:03Musk last year calling the moon, quote, a distraction, writing on X, quote, we're going straight to Mars. But in a post-Sunday night, Musk now arguing a self-growing moon city could be achieved in under 10 years, compared with more than 20 years for the Mars outpost. From Musk, quote, it is only possible to travel to Mars when the planets align every 26 months, six-month trip time, whereas we can launch to the moon every 10 days, two-day trip time. This means we can iterate much faster to complete a moon city than a Mars city. The post ending quote, SpaceX will also strive to build a Mars city and begin doing so in about five to seven years.
16:43But the overriding priority is securing the future of civilization, and the moon is faster. The announcement coming as NASA encourages increased competition between SpaceX and Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin to assist NASA as it races to land humans on the moon as early as 2028. Gail, Gail King, they need you. The last time man landed on the moon was in 1972. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the MK Show, live on SiriusXM's The Megan Kelly Channel, 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash megankelly, and on all podcast platforms.
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The search for missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie enters its tenth day as the ransom deadline passes with no proof of life. Ghislaine Maxwell pleads the Fifth in a House Oversight deposition while signaling she may talk if granted clemency. The Trump administration pushes back on a report claiming its immigration crackdown is not targeting the “worst of the worst.” Elon Musk delays SpaceX’s Mars timeline, pivoting instead toward building a self-sustaining city on the Moon.
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