New Video of WHCD Shooter, and Major Questions About Male Accuser in JP Morgan Exec Story, with Buck Sexton, Isabel Brown, and Priya Patel | Ep. 1308

28:13I'm not saying it's even feasible to do that without Congress. But that's the truth. The Secret Service, for a long time, was really a chauffeur and crowd control agency. It's just a fact, okay? And this is a lot of people. And there was a lot of DEI hiring. And there were a lot of sort of, you know, not particularly physically impressive or imposing individuals getting through. I mean, you know, I'm like a middle-aged 44-year-old guy. I saw the Secret Service physical requirements, and I was like, I'm not even training for it these days, and I could pass that. That's absurd. So it takes time, but it's one of these things where it reminds me, there's a haunting quote from an IRA leader after they tried to get Margaret Thatcher.

29:01And they had an IRA, they put a bomb somewhere. And the quote that he put out was, you know, you have to be lucky always, but we only have to be lucky once. And that's the reality of high security or, you know, high target security of personal security details is, you know, you just have to be on it all the time. And you have to have a zero failure mentality. Good for that cop for being quick to react. You know, I mean, he had his gun drawn and was firing shots at the bad guy within seconds. And I will say it was kind of cool to see the Secret Service agent in like the firing stance with the legs, you know, bent like immediately.

29:42That was kind of cool to see like his training kicked in, even though nobody actually hit the perp. But the perp is in custody. So we can't that guy. Look at it. That's kind of cool. He's clearly been through some training there. And look, the perp is in custody. So good. But we I don't like what Sean Curran said. Can you could we please take some lessons from this and admit we have some room for improvement? Only an A is acceptable when you're guarding this particular president in particular. I totally agree. Totally agree on that. In particular, he's saying he's saying we give ourselves an A and it's like a B, but it's not it's not an F.

30:15It's not a B. No, it's exactly right. OK, let's keep going because we have other stuff to get to. The Iran war is in a weird place right now. There's a ceasefire, but the president reportedly has just been advised on some options to like rattle the ceasefire out of a ceasefire and to an end to the actual conflict. And he is reportedly considering renewed strikes against certain targets or something greater. So some plans have been brought to him. But meantime, domestically, gas prices now have hit. Oil has rallied to its highest level since the start of the Iran war. And gas prices are now averaging four dollars and 30 cents a gallon, which Trump was asked about in the following soundbite, which we will play.

31:06Watch here. sat 11. The average price of a gallon of gas is now$4.00 in this country. And you know what? And we're not going to have a nuclear weapon in the hands of Iran. The gas will go down. As soon as the war's over, it'll drop like a rock. There's so much of it. It's all over the place, sitting all over the oceans of the world. And it'll be it'll go down. But what won't happen is if Iran had a nuclear weapon and used it, then the whole world is a different place. You're not going to have to pay a little bit more for gasoline. The gasoline, the oil will go down rapidly as soon as the war is over.

31:45OK, by the way, I just want to correct myself. That was yesterday. Today, they've already gone up another 10 cents to four dollars and almost 40 cents a barrel. It's four point three nine that the average gallon is costing. So there is President Trump saying that. Here's Senator Rick Scott, a Republican doubling down with Caitlin Collins, SOC 12. When the people are unhappy about paying$1.24 more, what do you tell them about how long they're going to be paying more for gas? Well, you know, Caitlin, my background, I grew up in public housing. I watched my parents struggle for food and struggle for jobs.

32:24So I think gas prices, I hate them going up. But here's what's fascinating. Democrats don't care about high gas prices. they tried to cause it to make sure we all buy electric vehicles. Trump's tried to get gas prices down. He did his first term. He's done it this term. But there's a tradeoff right now. I want my family, your family to be safe. And is there a cost right now? It's terrible that we have higher gas prices. But the tradeoff is we're going to live in freedom and democracy, and we don't have somebody that's a lunatic that's going to drop a nuclear weapon on us. Senator, can I ask you?

32:59I don't know what the price tag for that is, but it's worth it to me. OK, I'm sorry. I just I'm taking this before I give it to you. That's fucking bullshit. The intelligence community assessed that Iran was not anywhere near getting a nuclear bomb. That comes from President Trump's intelligence community right before we launched this war. President Trump himself said that we had obliterated the nuclear sites in June, which we believed and reported and congratulated him on. So this is just bullshit. You can say Iran's a bad actor. Iran has proxies who are doing bad things in the region. Iran has designs on hurting America.

33:37That's all true. But what he just said is a lie. It's bullshit. It's fucking propaganda. And it's not going to sell. People don't believe it. And that is why the president's poll numbers on approval for this war continue to drop into the basement. And approval of the war is in the basement as well. The latest poll just came out and two thirds of the American public are against it. Two thirds of the American public are against the war. The gas prices buck. I just you tell me whether America is going to swallow. We just need to do it in order to prevent a nuclear weapon from dropping on our heads.

34:13So I promised the last time for your esteemed audience that I'll reference my resume. But I said I worked in the Iraq office, Megan, at the CIA. I worked in the office that actually did the WMD assessment for the Iraq war. I was not there when that happened, but I worked with a lot of folks who were and certainly understand how that has colored the thinking not only of people from within the intelligence community, but all of us. Right. So getting this stuff right matters a whole hell of a lot. And we have gotten it quite wrong in the past. And I've seen I've seen from the inside how that sort of thing can happen via political pressure.

34:50So I just I just think that's worthwhile context, because I come at this from a very I'm very anti Iran, but I'm also really not interested in any long drawn out conflict again in the Middle East of any kind. But now we're there. So I try to look at this from the perspective of, OK, what are the best options? Here is my challenge on this that I don't think enough people have really addressed, and certainly not in this administration, or not for the people who are proponents of the war. This has to be a regime change war. It has to be a regime change war for it to come to a successful conclusion, because we're talking about getting concessions.

35:33And we haven't gotten those concessions yet. What we've done is we've set this up so that you have pain on our side economically. And really, I'm sorry, it's economically and politically, I think, is the more powerful lever here at home. And then you have a lot of economic pain as well as the kinetic strikes, the military destruction that had happened in Iran. And it's essentially who's going to cry uncle first. I mean, Trump even used that phrase. He's like, they just have to cry uncle and this all stops. So we have a midterm coming up and we have Americans paying higher prices for gas and people really care, especially people who are struggling about high gas prices.

36:12So that's real pressure. But why do I say it's a regime for it to come to a successful conclusion in the long term? It has to be a regime change war because any agreement that you get with whatever this is now, I know we've talked to the foreign minister and I actually called on radio, Megan, last week. I was like, they're not going to go back to Pakistan because they're not going to say they're not going to agree. They should do this over Zoom. They should send them an email. There's no this is a total waste of time. And we did. And we can't. And we did. Yeah. So I you know, my everybody listening was like, oh, wow, you saw that coming.

36:44Yeah, of course, because this is fundamentally about the nature of the Iranian state and what it will be like going forward. and Iran that is still hostile toward Israel, toward America, is going to want to replenish its coffers, buy back, you know, build up military stuff again. We say, oh, it'll take years and years. Maybe. I mean, they've got a lot of oil. They can build some stuff pretty quickly. And they also fight a lot asymmetrically. I mean, the terrorist stuff that they do and a lot of the support, whether it's to Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, they do that through mostly asymmetric means and low-cost munitions, if if you will, things that aren't particularly sophisticated.

37:22My point is, they're going to try to get, they're going to be back in the same position before with a regime that we're going to say is cheating and that is trying to get further along the nuclear progress timeline. And so we have to get rid of them, which is why at the beginning of this, everybody was saying, don't worry, any day now, any day now, we're going to see the resistance come up. And I was like, well, that's nonsense. When I saw the stuff in the papers about the Kurds may be helping. I worked in Iraq with the Kurds back in the day in the Iraq war. And I just looked at that. I said, has anyone, gosh, they actually need some people from the Bush administration, as crazy as that sounds.

38:01Kurds aren't going to run, they're not going to run roughshod over the Iranian military and take over Arabia and take over Iran. It was crazy. And that was being floated for a second. So the regime change aspect of this, I think, is essentially non-existent. And so we may, where I think we're heading, and I'm sorry, you know, this, we could do a three-hour podcast, Megan, just on this one topic, right? Where I think we're heading is the Iranians will agree to just enough that we can say the Iranians that we fundamentally won, we've destroyed their military, they're in a terrible position, and then we'll hope that the political damage going into the midterms isn't so profound that Trump is essentially, you know, stymied for the last two years of his second term.

38:47Hobbled. Hobbled. Yeah, that's how I think this goes. And like I said, I am super opposed to the Iranian regime. I would love it to see people in the streets and women in high heels and miniskirts, no more hijab forced on them by the besiege and partying. That would be amazing. I'm all about that. And I think Iran is a huge problem. And I think Iran is a state sponsor of terror and all these things. But if we're being honest about what we're going to accomplish, what agreement, I mean, just to ask it this way, what agreement is Jared Kushner going to get on behalf of the Trump administration with Iran that's truly enforceable if these lunatics that are around the country are still in charge?

39:23Like, I don't think anyone's even thought about this. The truth is that they're talking about a deal that looks very much like the JCPOA, the Obama deal that President Trump said he hated and was so proud to eviscerate. We're talking about a deal right now that looks a lot like that. And the reports are that President Trump is trying to make sure it doesn't look so much like that, that people can use that against him. But like, that's just a nightmare. And here we are where the Iranians are still, you know, now they've realized that they have this pressure point that they can unleash on us, which is control over the Strait of Hormuz, which, yes, that hurts the global economy.

40:03We're hurting the Iranian economy by not letting shipping traffic go in and out of these Iranian ports, which was a good counter move because we needed a pressure point on them. And it is hurting them. But they're still hurting us. They're hurting the world economy by not allowing shipping to the Strait of Hormuz. And all of that is already manifesting in our gas prices and is only going to continue to. I don't think President Trump is right, based on all the economists I've listened to, that as soon as the war is over, it instantly goes down, that's not true. The rolling inflation that's coming our way as a result of what's been happening in the strait is coming like a tidal wave, no matter whether the war ends tomorrow or not.

40:43The only question is, how long is it going to go on and how big is it going to be? And we can control some of that by ending it sooner rather than later. So I would just say for anybody who wants to understand the context here, I think in some ways there's been a lack of, in the public conversation about this in the administration, a lack of understanding of how much pain the malacracy of Iran is willing to take. This will sound like a digression, Megan, but I think it just give me, if it may please the court, give me a second. I promise, Your Honor, this will be relevant. The longest... I'll allow it.

41:19Thank you. Thank you. The longest declared war of the 20th century that I know, I think it's the longest declared war in the 20th century was the iran-i-raq war of the of the 80s went on for about a decade and you know about a million people die i mean it was a horrible a little bit like a russia-ukraine border thing i mean just a lot of death and and the iranians set up a special brigade and this was their this was their government they set up a special brigade to clear landmines by having people run across minefields this is who is in charge in this country They had their own people. Could you imagine an American general telling soldiers, you're the best, you're the brightest, you're fighting for us, you're amazing.

42:00There's a bunch of landmines there and tanks are more expensive than you. Just walk across that field for Allah. That happened. That's who we are dealing with. The notion that making their economy, and by the way, they're playing all kinds of games. They're now trying to truck some of the oil out. I mean, they're they're going to the notion that on a short timeline, I think I think Trump is right in so much as we have the cards if we can just keep playing this thing out. But at what cost to us over the next two months, six months, you know, whatever the timeline ends up being. And the Iranians can take the regime, the people in power.

42:40They can take a tremendous amount. They don't care about the suffering of the Iranian people. So I just I don't think that this it's a little bit like the sanctions tool. We everyone used to love sanctions because you're not blowing. We've blown people up here, obviously, but a lot of airstrikes. But people love sanctions because they think, OK, we'll just cripple them. How well did sanctions work against Russia? You remember when everybody said we were going to destroy the Russian economy at the beginning of the Russia-Ukraine war, Megan? That was the that was the consensus. Oh, remember, Biden was like, just watch.

43:09Just watch. Just watch. You just wait. This stuff is hard. And that's why I brought up my experience working in the Iraq office before, because we were actually losing a counterinsurgency campaign. And at one point, people were talking about maybe we just have to pull out and let the whole thing just turn into the ninth circle of hell or the eighth circle of hell, whatever. um and and it was some circle yeah 10th circle you name the circle point is this stuff is we think of this along the lines of of course the iranians are going to want to make a deal because trump is going to their economy is going to be absolutely destroyed look at venezuela the venezuelan people uh uh were willing to put up with the i mean willing to but not not really the right term but venezuela they had the maduro diet where people were losing like you know pounds They've had like 20 pounds over the course of a year or something because of all the food shortages.

43:58And their regime, they stayed in power. And the amount of suffering that authoritarians will subject their own people to is something that I think the American mind has a hard time comprehending strategically. So I just don't see them crying uncle. What I see them doing is giving us just enough of an off ramp where we go, OK, we've had a breakthrough. now we're going to head into the real negotiations. We're going to, you know, and the Iranians love this. They love this. And as long as the only the only piece of good news that I have heard out of Iran recently is from The New York Times on their Monday podcast of The Daily, where they had a reporter who covers Iran.

44:42And she reported that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is basically their mercenary and that they essentially might be buyable. And there is a possibility that since they're really the ones running Iran right now, that they could be wooed by a President Trump type economic offering that would, you know, make America or make Iran great again into some sort of a deal. Now, we'll see whether that's true. Well, I mean, like I'm just putting a pin in that, Buck. I don't need your commenting on it. I just I'm putting it out there as a possibility. Let's hope this is a true report and that and we can't I want to keep going okay okay I was gonna say that would be a home run I would love that and it would be a huge home run if they would actually deal with us and like be in a position where our money would make them more reasonable and not just toward us but toward their own people so fingers crossed that that's a possibility but I want to switch in the time I have you to the politics of it because Mark Halperin who obviously is very very bright politically and otherwise um he has been saying all along and I've been sort of holding on to it, that obviously the House looks very much in danger and we all kind of think it's going to go blue, but the Senate should not be going blue.

45:54The Senate is a good map this year for the Republicans, and we should be able to hold on to that on Team Red. Here, Mark Halberd's tune has changed, and he doesn't easily change, but here's what he said on his show the other day. But I'm telling you, we've got some data points today. The Republican Party may be in a lot of trouble. The midterms could be again, ladies and gentlemen, saying could be. And there are people in the Republican Party, including Newt Gingrich, who would tell you that this is true and they don't want it to happen. It could be a bloodbath. It could be a blue bud bloodbath in November.

46:28Plenty of time for things to change. Republicans have some ideas about how to change it. But I'm going to tell you some things now that suggest that this could be a nightmare. They could lose control of the Senate. You've never heard me say that. I've said just the opposite. They could lose more than 30 House seats. They could lose governor's races. No one's expecting them to lose. Oh, it's a nightmare, Buck. It's a nightmare because the map gets worse for Republicans in 28, where they have more Senate seats up for grabs and to defend. And, you know, then like now, you don't have a President Trump at the top of the ticket to help him out.

47:02I just hope that you will be zooming from your cell to my cell under the Kamala administration and we can continue to do the show when the backlash. But I think a lot of Republicans and a lot of Trump people, and I am a Trump person, you know, three times voted for him, all that stuff. A lot of them, I think, I told them in the first year, I said, enjoy this, guys. This is as good as it's going to get. The, you know, exult in the restoration of sanity, in the shattering of delusions that this administration will accomplish, because I'm telling you, these Democrats are insane and there's a lot of them and they will be back in power at some point and they are going to be out for out for blood, unfortunately, in a whole range of ways.

47:44So that's a concern. Here's here's my sense of that is like, but just it's just like that is the main concern. That's the main concern. I don't care about Iran. I care about America. I I want the Republicans to stay in power. I'm not too big on either party, to be perfectly honest, which is why I've been a registered independent for 20 years. But as between the two, it's a no brainer. And these lunatics are openly talking about adding seats to the U.S. Supreme Court, making Puerto Rico and D.C. additional states. Getting rid of the filibuster in the Senate so that they can pass through all of their aggressive agendas.

48:25And by the way, no filibuster in the Senate is a lot more dangerous when you have a Democrat power center in Washington than Republicans, because Republicans aren't big on pushing legislation. But Democrats are like this. This is the fight. And anything that undermines our fight in this respect, I'm against. And this war is hobbling the Trump administration and its electoral chances. And those Republicans six months in advance of a hugely important vote. So this is the next thing I was going to say, and you and I are obviously seeing seeing this from a similar lens here is the focus has to return home for this election.

49:06Whatever one thinks of Iran. And I'm actually not somebody who is losing sleep at night about again. I'm very anti-Iranian. I was very happy when Soleimani got got, you know, dusted by President Trump. I mean, I'm there. So I kind of come at this from I think it's a complicated issue. I'm not pro-Iran, Buck. I get it. Trust me. I was on Fox News for 20 years. I'm not pro-Iran at all. Fuck Iran. But I don't care about them. I don't want to bomb them. I believe Tulsi Gabbard's intelligence assessment. I believe what President Trump said in June after we bombed the facilities. And I believe he needs to be focused on America, the United States of America.

49:42And gas prices do matter. They may not matter if your last name is Trump, but they matter to middle America who are obsessively, if you look at these social media boards, checking the gas prices and trying to find the cheapest gas in their neighborhood. That's how most Americans live. Well, it's important for everyone to know that 50 percent of gas goes into products and the prices that you're paying for gas are reflected also in the prices for the goods and services that you are buying on a tight budget day to day. So it's really about the cost of everything, because when gas is high, it affects so many things.

50:15Transport, you know, of the things that you buy. Anyway, yes, Trump needs to bring this home in every way. It needs to be about the border. It needs to be about the economy. This focus must shift. Now, I think they would say, this White House would say, starting in June when we have our agreement, it's all going to be great. Maybe, but it's taken a little longer than they initially told us. And look, I just want Trump to have the best possibility to have his agenda implemented for the second half of his second term. And this foreign stuff is particularly in Iran. Venezuela is actually looking kind of good.

50:51That's a conversation for another time. But the foreign stuff in Iran right now is it's a distraction to a lot of people who just want their life here in America to be better. And I think that's totally fair. That's not that's not being closed minded. And it's not about anything other than the day to day of what matters to people. and Megan, can I also just randomly say thank you for making this a bestseller, Manufacturing Delusion. I launched the book on your show. The pleasure. Thank you so much. It was mine. I really enjoyed the book. I think everybody will. Even Doug told me it was good and he's a book nerd like me.

51:22He's like, this was actually really good. We both read it. We both enjoyed it. Yes, check it out, Manufacturing Delusion and it's got all of the great Buck insights on everything. You've done so much Buck and it's always great talking to you. Thanks, Megan. All right, thank you for being here to be continued. And up next, a new twist in the JP Morgan female exec story that we brought to you yesterday with Adam Carolla. Don't go away. Here's a question. How many brokers does it take to insure your business? If you are like most business owners, the answer is too many. Multiple policies, multiple applications, no clear view of how it all fits together.

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54:45We have to bring you an update to the JP Morgan sex slave lawsuit we told you about yesterday. The New York Post reporting that the John Doe plaintiff who claimed that his boss at JP Morgan was sexually harassing him and forcing him to allow her to give him oral sex while he cried over it, has now been identified. And multiple sources are now speaking out, telling the Post that the accusations this guy is making against this woman are a, quote, complete fabrication. But where does this poor gal go to get her reputation back? Joining me now to react to this and more is Isabel Brown. She's host of The Isabel Brown Show on The Daily Wire.

55:32And for her first appearance here on The MK Show, Priya Patel, conservative influencer and political commentator. Priya actually recently went quite viral with this short clip that has already racked up more than 30 million views. Look at this. This is your friendly reminder that immigration without assimilation is invasion. Got it. Yes, well said. Isabel Priya, welcome to the show. Thanks for having us, Megan. Yeah, thanks so much. I love it, Priya. You said it simply, you said it plainly, and it resonated as it should. Thank you. Okay, let's start with this lunatic who filed this lawsuit against the J.P.

56:11Morgan banker. So it turns out that this guy, he's now been outed his identity by the New York Post, And it turns out that he is not actually, as he claimed in his lawsuit yesterday, a subordinate to the woman he is accusing of having harassed him, that they were more on parallel tracks and that they ultimately reported up to different managing directors. So contrary to the allegations in his lawsuit, this woman he claims was holding his promotion over his head unless he gave her oral sex and let her do oral sex on him, that this woman wasn't even in charge of his bonus or his future at J.P. Morgan.

56:55And while he tried to file this under a John Doe pseudonym, he quickly got outed by people at J.P. Morgan. His identity was known. He's left the firm. He's with another firm. Turns out he's been with multiple banks over the past 10, 12 years. Doesn't seem like he can keep a job at any one of them for any too long a time. That's my own opinion based on what I'm seeing. I could be wrong. And on top of all that, it comes out that he yes, that there was a full investigation at J.P. Morgan, which we reported yesterday, and that they found absolutely no merit to this and that he wouldn't cooperate with it.

57:33And on top of all that, he's withdrawn the complaint temporarily, his lawyer says, to, quote, make corrections to it. But we're also told at the same time it's because he needed to jump through certain hoops in order to file as a John Doe and to keep it anonymous. And he's it's really just to do that, but that the complaint is going to be refiled. He's standing by his allegations. and this young woman who her all of her friends at J.P. Morgan say she's totally above board. She's like a consummate professional is now twisting in the wind, denying everything, denying it all, but twisting in the wind as her face has been everywhere as like some bizarre pariah who couldn't keep her hands off of this guy, Isabel.

58:19What do you make of it? There are so many elements to this story, Megan. I feel like I'm binge watching an entire HBO drama series on all of this. And frankly, if indeed it is true that this was all fabricated, as I'm sure we'll find out in the next few months, this guy shouldn't be a banker. He should be a fiction writer or working in Hollywood because the level of detail and creativity in all of these specific allegations, my jaw was on the floor watching you read them on your show yesterday. I feel terrible for his wife. I certainly feel terrible for this woman. If indeed all these accusations are false, that now that is what everyone is going to associate with her forever.

58:56And in the era of Me Too, we often think about this with potentially false allegations coming against men and tarnishing and destroying the reputations of men. It just as easily can come the other way around as well, which is why damaging culture here in the era of Me Too is so, so dangerous for people's honor, for their credibility, for their reputation. And it really cheapens what happens in actual circumstances of sexual harassment and assault. You know, I said yesterday, Priya, that I did not believe one word of this complaint. There is the notion that somehow she forced him to allow her to perform oral sex on him.

59:39And he alleges that, but he cried the whole time. That's just, that's not a thing. I'm sorry, but that is not a thing where a woman forces a man to allow her to give him a blow job. And he just this swinging guy at J.P. Morgan just tearfully makes his way through it. I don't believe it. Maybe he'll prove me wrong in court, but I don't believe one word of it. And yet he puts it in the complaint. It goes everywhere. It was everywhere yesterday. The memes online were hilarious of like showing mobs running to of men to apply to J.P. Morgan. I know I saw one person. The horses left the bar. I know.

1:00:17Exactly. I saw so many guys saying like, this guy's crying while he has my dream job. OK, like, we'll trade. I'm perfectly fine with that. Yeah, no, none of this has happened. I'm not convinced whatsoever. I was cracking up watching you read it yesterday on your show as well, Megan. I know Isabel said that too. But, you know, it's just so unbelievably funny. And it honestly sounds like every man's fantasy. So I think that's why it's so unbelievable to most of us. because no woman in the history of the world has ever referred to her breasts as cannons, I think is what she referred to it as. I've never heard that in my life.

1:00:54I would never dream of saying anything like that. I don't think anybody was genuinely convinced of this, especially the second that we saw his picture released. I mean, if you are a victim of this alleged, you know, sex slave scandal, then why exactly would you be so quick to hide? This is exactly like Isabel said, a problem with the Me Too movement is that it essentially erodes the basic premise that we have in this country, and that is innocent until proven guilty. And you automatically jump to being guilty if you're accused of any sexual assault, which, of course, like Isabel said, again, very much waters down the actual validity of sexual assault cases.

1:01:32And unfortunately, we see this time and time again, especially with men in this country. But now, of course, it can be just as damaging to women, too. Yes. So and it turns out there's only a two year age difference between them. The way he styled it in the complaint was like he was this junior hire. She was the senior, you know, badass, like powerful person at J.P. Morgan. There were two years between them. They basically had parallel positions. They reported to different people. And she's apparently extremely well respected. Her lawyer issued the following statement to the Post. Lorna categorically denies the allegation.

1:02:05She never engaged in any inappropriate conduct with this individual of any kind and has never even been to the location where the alleged sexual assault supposedly took place. Now, I actually do find that denial kind of interesting because if if this were me and I had never laid a finger on this guy and like there was absolutely nothing between us, I think the denial would read there was never a sexual act between us of any kind. These are all lies. he will be getting sued. You know, like it's interesting to me that they go to she's never been in the location where the alleged sexual assault supposedly took place.

1:02:44That's that's not what my denial would sound like. It would be like I've never touched this person and he's never touched me. So this goes back to my own theory on this case, which I espoused yesterday, which is they may have had an interlude, maybe one. I don't know. I don't think she's married, but he's married and there could have been an interlude that maybe went bad or that he held against her. You know, it can work both ways that way. And maybe that's why her denial sounds like that. I could be wrong on that. Maybe nothing happened between them. They say he's somewhat socially awkward and her allies are saying that she's actually amazing.

1:03:21And, you know, they don't believe there's any merit to this. Again, somebody is saying this is a complete fabrication, somebody who knows her. So in any event, we'll find out. But here's one other thing. he filed this under John Doe. Why are we still doing this? Why are we still doing this, Isabel? Why are we allowing women to file under Jane Doe? And why are we allowing men to file under John Doe? Like, I'm sorry. I don't think there should be a special exception for outing your identity just because you claim to be a sexual assault victim and you might actually be a sexual assault. Why? We don't do that for any other crime.

1:03:57The accuser has the right to know who is accusing him. And so does the public. in assessing one's credibility. I'm sorry that it's more trauma for the person if it really happened to them, but I don't believe in this John and Jane Doe bullshit. Yeah, it's a harsh truth, Megan, and I think people have a hard time swallowing that because we certainly want to be sensitive to the reality that people have suffered trauma in situations of rape or sexual assault or harassment, especially in the workplace. It's awkward, it's uncomfortable, but if there was indeed an internal investigation and it didn't go in your favor and you find the need to file a formal lawsuit about all of this, Clearly, this is telling me this is wildly important to the trajectory of your life, and you should be 100 % comfortable putting your name behind this because you are indeed accusing someone of something that's going to destroy their reputation and potentially their career for the rest of their life if it turns out not to be true.

1:04:46This idea that you can hide behind a facade of an alias or just being completely anonymous does not happen for any other crime, violent or otherwise, in the United States today. And it's weird to me that it continues to happen in this particular realm. All right. I want to switch gears for a second. There was a big, big ruling out of the U.S. Supreme Court this week on voting rights, the Voting Rights Act. This, you know, back in the 1940s and 50s, the terrible things were done mostly by Democrats to black voters to stop them from voting and give them ridiculous tests to see if they could actually, you know, go into the ballot box and be trusted to cast a vote.

1:05:25And we needed a Voting Rights Act to protect their rights. And we implemented it and actually really turned things around. And it worked. It helped so much that it got rid of this problem and it got rid of this problem long ago. But Democrats never to give up an electoral tool that might help them. We're still using it to do things like gerrymander districts into being majority black districts so that they could work them to their electoral advantage and claiming that that's that had to be or black voters would be disempowered in places like Louisiana. Well, this week, the Supreme Court finally said, and they've been toying with getting rid of this, and they've been toying with dismantling the Voting Rights Act because it's time.

1:06:03I mean, it's been 60-plus years now. And this week, they finally got rid of sort of the last piece of the Voting Rights Act without officially overturning the act. They were like, you don't need these racial gerrymanders, and they're not constitutional. Well, you would think that with this single ruling, they have pushed us back to 1944 based on the way the left is reacting. All right. Here is Sonny Hostin of The View, who is a multimillionaire. Her son just graduated from Harvard, who is a black man. But listen to the way she talks about this ruling on The View, Sot 17. Alito argued that the vast social change has occurred throughout the country and particularly in the South, indicating that racism no longer exists in this country.

1:06:56I can tell you as a black woman that my father was born in 1949. He remembers segregated schools. He remembers segregated water fountains. He remembers that he couldn't that he did not have full civil rights. And he told me when I turned 40 years old that I was the first person in his family to enjoy full civil rights. And he is still alive today. And I am still alive today. And I have been discriminated against. And now I have to tell my children that they have less civil rights than I did when I was born. That's true. That is disgusting, despicable. And I am devastated by this particular Supreme Court decision, even though, Whoopi, we did know this was coming.

1:07:39Wait a second. And what about Clarence Thomas? Didn't he stick up for his own people? No, he didn't. He did not. He did not. He is part of the majority here. Oh, did he stick up for his own people? Right. I know Isabel's jaw is literally dropped. It's incredible, Priya, to watch this incredibly privileged group of rich bitches act like they've had dogs sicked on them at the ballot box. These are what we call lies. Your thoughts on Sonny Hostin? Yeah, that's exactly right. Right. And funnily enough, to Sonny's point, I actually remember in the 80s and 90s when Joe Biden was in Congress actually advocating for segregation in schools.

1:08:17And yet now he's allegedly one of the champions or he's the representative for the party of champions for equality and anti-racism. So funny how this works always. I mean, it's really ridiculous to defend that aspect of the Voting Rights Act, because essentially by empowering or drawing districts for races specifically, you inherently disenfranchise other races in these districts. It just seems very plain and simple to understand. And I don't understand why this is now like the second coming of segregation or or slavery to the left. It's really ridiculous to me. So just when you think they couldn't take it any further, they explicitly say what I just said.

1:08:58Listen to this follow up by that sage Whoopi Goldberg, who we all do turn to for constitutional analysis. She's even worse than Sonny, sod 18. Right now, it sounds like it's just affecting people of color. We know better. We knew this was coming. So this is meant to discourage you from voting. This is meant to make you feel like you don't have a voice. You do have a voice. Do not forget that. Here's the other problem. You know, we make laws to fix problems. We put the Voting Rights Act together because there was an issue. Because they were keeping people from voting. They were literally shooting people.

1:09:45They were running them down with dogs. to keep them from voting. Okay, let's start with that. So when they say that problem is gone, it's not gone. Because you're still doing it. You're still doing it.

1:10:06That's, we are so derelict in missing that. My God, did that happen and none of us reported on it? Isabel, what happened to us? Megan, I have never once heard anywhere of anyone shooting black people who prevent them from voting in an American election. That is asinine to remotely suggest that. But it's still happening. What are you saying? It's been happening and it's still happening. Look, I think the real takeaway here is that for these people, everything is about race, ultimately. It was just three, four weeks ago that Whoopi Goldberg called me a racist on The View because I dared to suggest that young women have more children than they think they're ready for and that they think they can afford.

1:10:42And that's what they used to tell black people to trap people in poverty. It's just insane. But listen to how they talk about Clarence Thomas in that segment. They are racist against Clarence Thomas because he does not believe that he is a Democrat, because he can think freely for himself. And this is the same political party that ultimately started and funded the KKK, including as recently as five minutes ago through the Southern Poverty Law Center, because it turns out there is so little white supremacy in America that the SPLC and anti-hate groups actually have to pay off the KKK and orchestrate these things like the Charlottesville, Virginia, Unite the Right rally a few years ago, allegedly, as we will find out through all of these lawsuits.

1:11:23But they believe that black people lack the ability to think for themselves. It is that plain and simple. They think they are too stupid. How about Joy explicitly saying, how about Clarence Thomas? Did he stand up for his people, for his race, which is on the heels of a soundbite we played. It was just yesterday, Jasmine Crockett being like, I'm a black woman first before she's a congresswoman. Now you tell me what would happen, Priya, if I was like, I'm a lawyer. Let's say I made it to the Supreme Court. First things first, I stand up for my race. My first principle is I stand up for the whites.

1:12:00I just want to make that clear. I'm here for the whites first. You would be a racist. Everybody else is secondary to me. That's exactly right. Yeah. Or what Jasmine Crockett said, I as a congresswoman. First, I'm a white woman. I am a white before I'm anything. They say this shit like it's a normal thing to say. Like Clarence Thomas should be up there to stand up for blacks as opposed to for the law, for the constitution. That's exactly right. I mean, if anything, it should be. We live in America. You are American first, not not any sort of race. And yeah, to your point, Megan, it's really funny that every other race in the world can actually stand up there and say, you know, I am a black woman first.

1:12:41I am a brown man first, whatever it might be. The one race that is excluded from being able to do that are whites. And for whatever reason, whites are always painted like they're the bad people. When in reality, if you look across the world and all the good deeds that have ever been done, the large majority of them have been committed by whites. Whites were the ones to abolish slavery. I mean, a lot of them actually sacrificed their lives to abolish slavery in this country. and white nations led the abolition of slavery globally. So I find it really ridiculous that anybody can sit up here and just paint white people as the bad people when every other race looks virtuous.

1:13:18It's just ridiculous to me. How about we are just American and we're people first? What they're doing is so dangerous because if you make race the stakes of any conversation, like it's okay to stand up for your people because you're black, then that's that's we're living through the backlash to that right now where especially young white men in some pockets have been told this over and over and over that it's okay to divide us by race and to lean into race essentialism that they're like okay fine then we'll do that and they're much more focused on their whiteness and their race than they have been in decades like that kind of talk is genuinely dangerous it's such bullshit that they're allowed to get away with it I want to keep going Kamala Harris would never miss the chance to weigh in She's you know, she the two things she genuinely feels strongly about are race and abortion.

1:14:07Those are the two things she holds near and dear to her heart. Very bizarre things to latch on to as your big issues. But OK, that's what she really wants, the babies to be able to be killed in utero. And she thinks that skin color is everything. So here she is seeing an opportunity to, like, raise her currency and talk about the voting rights issue as a result of the Supreme Court decision. And there's a couple of things we want to talk about here. Look at SOT 16. Okay, first of all, here's what she had to say. People would ask me, well, do you think they're going to try and cancel the elections?

1:14:38I don't think so, because if you thought no King's rallies were a thing, people would take to the streets if they tried to cancel elections. No, they have had an agenda that has been in place for decades to get to this very moment and beyond, which is to make it so difficult for the people to vote that they won't, because they know the people are not stupid, and see the corrupt, incompetent, callous administration that is in the White House right now.

1:15:18And they're so damn scared. They're so damn scared of losing the midterms. Okay, I just want to show you the reaction by the black saxophonist who is on the stage with her as part of the band. Was he rallied by her points about the black vote and what's going to happen and her prediction of doom and gloom? He is asleep.

1:15:48Showing him now for the listening audience. He is completely asleep. his eyes are closed like the rest of us he finds her an utter bore and so the irony is about as she tries to get people upset and agitated only the white guy in the band is sitting there listening full ears and the black guy's like when's my next sandwich i don't think people understand speaks for us truly i don't think people understand in the democrat elite that the majority of the country did indeed vote for donald trump like we've known this for well over a year now this is not new information but they actually think that this is such a crazy fascist dictatorship overhaul of society that 99 of people are disenfranchised by the trump administration when well over half the country actually voted for them and honestly i'm just so sick and tired megan of hearing all of these democrats talk about how the republicans are making it so hard for people to vote.

1:16:49I currently live in Northern Virginia, and we certainly have been under a microscope for the last several weeks with Virginia's attempt to gerrymander the entire state. That's still in flux, but essentially disenfranchising 50 % of the state. But they've already said it should be illegal for a ballot that could be counted by a machine to be counted by hand. What could possibly go wrong in Virginia? Voter ID has been here. This is a nationwide attempt to disenfranchise real people by attempting to gerrymander every district by letting machines control all of our elections and letting illegal immigrants come in by the tens of millions into our country to vote instead of American citizens.

1:17:28You do not respect democracy, actually. I love I love how she's like, you know, they think we're dumb. It's like you're the one who said that blacks couldn't figure out how to produce a voter ID. All right. You're the one who suggested they couldn't understand how to like Xerox a license. So stop. Right. Just stop. OK. Speaking of elite and out of touch, well-known people, I'm not going to call her a celebrity, but she's she's a well-known person. This next gal is a celebrity and her name is Emily Blunt. She is one of the stars of the new Devil Wears Prada 2. She, of course, had a very funny role in Devil Wears Prada 1.

1:18:06She's not only a rich celeb, she's married to a rich celeb, Priya. She's married to John Krasinski, who's also a very well-known actor. And she was asked her advice for young working people who don't like their jobs. Take a listen to what she said. Do you have any tips for girls who are hating their jobs right now? Quit. No. look I think just find something that you deeply want to do even if you're earning no money as long as you love it you'll be happy okay she first says quit and then she says oh no just find something you deeply love to do you tell me as a young person yourself how realistic either of those two options is for most young people today in this economy not at all unfortunately I mean I think we all wish that we could quit our jobs and do what we love and for a lot of women and that's going to be stay home and be a mother and a wife.

1:18:59But unfortunately, our economy doesn't allow that. For many, many decades now, the system has essentially been rigged against that. And now we have such an affordability crisis. I mean, I live in California. And let me tell you, it is expensive to live anywhere in the state, let alone Los Angeles, where I currently reside. And to just say that young people should just be quitting their job simply because they don't like it or are unhappy in them is pretty unrealistic. I mean, we all wish, but it's not going to happen anytime soon. I mean, it's like so out of touch, Isabel, like this. It's just it's not a huge deal.

1:19:35Right. But it is indicative of a certain attitude. She's got millions. Right. You can't just quit. The average American cannot quit. They have a job that was hard to get. And they're worried about getting fired, never mind quitting, about getting another job. You can't just say, oh, what I really want to do is star in Hollywood movies across from Meryl Streep like Emily Blunt. And so I'll just throw my factory job out the door or I'll give up my Walmart, you know, cashier job. And maybe my life will look just like Emily's. Yeah, you know, beyond just being a class differentiation here, Megan, and the wealthy elitist thing, I also think this is a generational divide where millennials were really programmed by culture as they were growing up to make their entire identity about their job.

1:20:21Their career was everything of who they were. And in fact, that's what we ask people today when they grow up and they graduate from school. The very first thing people ask you is, what do you do? Because your identity really is wrapped up in your career. For Gen Z, that's been very difficult because there is currently a very severe youth unemployment crisis in our country. There are 10 million members of our generation that can't find a job. Ironically, while there are about 10 million illegal immigrants that even Republican congressmen are trying to offer mass amnesty. But I really think Priya hit the nail on the head there.

1:20:51It's been rigged against young people. Because of that, there's a good thing happening as a result. Young people are looking elsewhere for their identity. And I think that's where you're starting to see a lot of this culture war related to marriage and children start to happen with young people. But ultimately, your career matters. Having a paycheck matters. Giving something back to society matters. But that's not where your identity should come from. It's coming from faith, which is having a massive resurgence with young people right now. And it comes from your family, the relationships that you build and ultimately what you leave behind.

1:21:21Okay, but you hit on something and you mentioned it in your reference to them ripping on you on The View. People aren't having kids right now, which is actually quite scary. Young people, in a perfect world, they'd be getting jobs if they want them and they'd be having kids while they're still young enough to have them and not have to worry about fertility issues, which will creep in in the mid-30s for pretty much every woman. Ben Sasse was on 60 Minutes this past week and dear Ben Sasse is struggling with such a devastating form of pancreatic cancer, but really fighting the good fight and has been speaking out in very sage and wise ways.

1:21:57And he called attention. Think about this. I mean, this guy, like he could be talking about anything right now as he feels his life in the balance. And this is one of the things he wanted to bring up. This was on the extra portion, the overtime portion of Sunday, of 60 Minutes on Sunday. Listen to what he said, SOT 31. All across the industrialized rich world, people have just stopped having babies in the last couple of decades. We're at replacement rate, birth rates, nowhere in the industrialized world except Mormons and Jewish populations in Israel and in some parts of the U.S. Except for those two categories, every other industrialized nation has stopped having babies.

1:22:39That is super weird. We've stopped having sex. Sex has collapsed demographically. Premarital, extramarital, marital. It is very weird, I don't have a phone on me, but that we carry around these super devices in our pockets that have distracted us from some of the most fundamental human activities and aspirations. Having a baby is a bet on the future. And almost everywhere in the world, and the world is richer and richer and richer statistically than it's ever been, people have decided, actually babies are kind of an inconvenience. Babies have always been an inconvenience. And the most glorious thing you can do to enrich your family and to make a bet on the future.

1:23:19How weird that we've stopped having sex. We've stopped making babies. We've decided that being distracted by a dopamine hit around Candy Crush might be a good way to spend your time. Not if you're a full human. I want to stick with you on this one, Isabel, since you're a young mom. And just to add to what he said, listen to this via the New York Post in February. In the U.S., a staggering one in three men, one out of three men and one out of five women have not had sex in the past year, according to the general social survey. Obviously, we're talking about grown adults, one in three men, one in five women.

1:23:59And everything he said about the birth rate was exactly right as well. Your thoughts? I love how Ben Sasse articulated that, that having a baby is a bet on the future and it is never easy. It is always an inconvenience, but it's always a blessing. My daughter turned one yesterday, Megan, and it was a crazy reflection on the last year of my life that I've had to make a lot of sacrifices along the way in my career, in my personal life. Our marriage has certainly taken on a new adventure with bringing this new life into the world, but it's created this opportunity for fulfillment and meaning and purpose that has never existed before in my life.

1:24:32The Institute for Family Studies has done a lot of research into happiness and fulfillment with people under 35 who are married with kids or who are unmarried and without kids. And for men, married men with children under 35 are two and a half times happier than their unmarried childless counterparts. And that's three times happier for young women in the midst of this mental health crisis that is driven a whole lot by our phones, ironically designed to connect us. People are finding real purpose and fulfillment in the age old truth of not being alone and making more people in committing your life to someone, which takes courage.

1:25:06And yet when you see how culture responds to that, people get so viscerally angry because we have been programmed to believe that a husband or wife and children will ruin your life forever. It'll destroy your career. It'll destroy your friends. It'll destroy your relationships. None of that is true. In fact, us self-isolating is what's destroying all of those things. It's amazing when you think about what a woman's body can do in growing a human. You know, a girlfriend of mine was, she was pregnant and the husband was asking her about something that happened at work. And I remember she goes, hey, quiet, I'm making eyelashes.

1:25:43It's really, it's like incredible. You know, a lot of women get obsessed with like, I got to get this proposal in or I got to make partner. I got to, it's like, no, I'm making eyelashes. Who else can do that? That's actually an incredible accomplishment. But Priya, part of the problem is in both those sex numbers and the baby numbers, like it's apathy there there is the issue of like weird leftists who don't want sex and they don't want the opposite sex and they don't want children because they think it's bad for the environment or whatever but that but there's also apathy and i think fear fear i think like we've scared young men and um maybe some young women too but i think if i were like given the magic wand and told to solve this problem, I would start with young men and like making them feel empowered to ask for a date, to go on a date, to be assertive, to like put themselves out there, to not worry about Me Too or toxic masculinity.

1:26:38I would start there, but you're much closer to it than I am. So you tell me your thoughts. Yeah, that's exactly right. You hit the nail on the head there. I was going to bring it up. Me Too has very much disenfranchised young men among like many other movements, feminism being one of them. I mean, we've completely rejected young men, masculinity, what they actually want to live for, what brings them purpose and makes them a benefit to, you know, women, but also just society as a whole. We've completely rejected that. So I think that in disenfranchising men, we've also disenfranchised women. I mean, we've seen men become more feminine and we've seen women become more masculine.

1:27:14I mean, this is inherently incorrect for what we're naturally designed for and the relationships that we're designed for. So I think that, you know, we do need to start rejecting cultures like Me Too, like feminism and getting back to what is inherently fundamental to life in our society. And that is the family unit. So do you find, I don't know your personal situation at all. This is the first time we've spoken, but you're stunning and you're obviously very bright. Do you find it's easy to attract men to like be asked out? Like what's your experience been? You know, I haven't had an issue in terms of being asked out.

1:27:49But like I mentioned earlier, I live in Los Angeles, California, and I find the men to be I joke all the time, like even the straight men are really gay. It's really, really difficult to find masculine men out here. I mean, you know, I'm in a particular area where liberalism is at its height. And, you know, I think the water does turn the frogs gay, especially in L.A. So, you know, it's really difficult. But I. Yeah. Yeah. Dang. I mean, listen, if you had said no one's pursuing you, I would have fallen out of my chair and given up on life like that's that shouldn't be possible. But I know, sadly, it is now.

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1:33:18Isabel Brown and Priya Patel are back with me now. So ladies, this week in the House of Representatives, there was a hearing on the FACE Act, which people have come to know a lot about recently, thanks to Don Lamont, because the FACE Act not only prevents you from protesting in certain ways, an abortion clinic or a pregnancy and childbirth center, it also prevents you from storming a church like Don Lamont and his friends did in St. Paul, Minnesota. But there's been long an objection to federal law criminalizing this kind of thing by people who are pro-life and think this law gets overused only on pro-lifers.

1:34:01And there have been questions about whether this is necessary in any event. Like if somebody crosses into the face of an abortion-seeking woman, that would generally be a matter for state law and the local police. And so the House held a hearing on what they called the, they said, from tool to weapon, the FACE Act and the dangers of federalizing criminal law. So they took a look at the Biden-Harris administration's, what they called weaponization of the FACE Act. And that's what the hearing was about. And there was a woman who I believe was called by the Democrats. Her name is Jessica Waters. She teaches at American University.

1:34:35She is a senior scholar in residence justice, law and criminology. She fancies herself some sort of an expert in U.S. reproductive rights. And Brandon Gill, who I think is most of our VIP in the House of Representatives, he's just so good. His cross-examination is amazing. He's just so effective. And I also love that he is Dinesh D'Souza's son-in-law. He laid into this woman. And for once, like you never hear this done. He just refused to accept the whole reproductive rights thing as a summary for what abortion is and what we're really talking about when we're talking about abortion and these clinics and what goes on at them.

1:35:23I'm going to play the soundbite. I do warn the audience. It's very graphic and it is disturbing because so is the procedure. Here he is cross-examining this Jessica Waters. You're an advocate for abortion, for abortion policy. What's your favorite type of abortion? I am an advocate for patients having access to the full realm of reproductive health care. But do you have a preferred method of abortion that you like? I do not. The first type is called a suction abortion. This is when the cervix is dilated and a strong suction, 29 times the power of a household vacuum cleaner, tears the baby's body apart and sucks it through the hose into a container.

1:36:08Do you prefer that method? I stand by my former testimony. That sounds kind of gross, doesn't it? Sounds pretty gruesome. You don't want to talk about abortion itself. Why is that? I would prefer to talk about the reason that the committee called the hearing. Is it because it's uncomfortable to talk about? I would prefer to be uncomfortable. I would prefer to talk about the reason the hearing was called and the basis of my expert testimony. It's uncomfortable to hear this, isn't it? It is. I think it is because it's barbaric and evil. It went on for many minutes and he went through all of the methods and they got progressively gruesome.

1:36:47The one we just aired was the least offensive of the bunch. It's very jarring. And Isabel, you never hear it. You never, even Republicans never do this. Even pro-lifers never do this. And it's extremely effective to hear somebody actually say what it is. It is, Megan. And it should make anyone listening to that uncomfortable, whether you call yourself a pro-lifer or a pro-choicer when really the only choice truly presented is often abortion or anywhere in between. It's because we have swept this under the rug for the last 70 plus years in American culture and politics that so many people today don't even know what an abortion procedure actually is.

1:37:31I speak on college campuses nationwide about this topic quite often because college students feel very strongly about it, particularly young women as they are pandered to by the Democrat Party that this is the only thing that we should ever be voting on is our genitalia and our reproductive rights. But the minute that you start unpacking what an abortion procedure actually is, I see this not just in the halls of Congress like you saw in that clip, but in college campus rooms as well, where people start squirming in their seat because it is the death, the intentional destruction, the murder of an innocent life in the most gruesome ways possible.

1:38:04And Brandon Gill did an amazing job outlining that. The audacity to testify as an expert, a subject matter expert as an abortion advocate and refuse to acknowledge what an abortion actually is, I hope wakes a lot of people up in this country. And I said this four or five times this week, but I truly believe Congress needs 535 Brandon Gills. Yeah, we should be so lucky. The woman's reaction, Priya, to sit there and not even acknowledge she like that. This is the whole thing with the pro-choice crew, you know, the pro-abortion crew, that they won't go there. They have to treat an unborn baby like it's just a clump of cells, like it's not a killing, right?

1:38:54Like it's not a killing. They can't acknowledge even how disturbing that description sounds to any sane person. Even if you believe in abortion, even if you believe in a woman's right to have an abortion. You can't acknowledge how upsetting that sounds and then defend it, you know, and we've let them get away with that for too long. Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, you hit the nail on the head there in terms of them referring to it as just a clump of cells. They try to dehumanize abortion left and right. That is their main motive and goal. And I mean, frankly, it's really the only way that they can make this palatable to people because look, Brandon did a phenomenal job because they don't get confronted with the reality of what an abortion is and what it looks like often enough.

1:39:39I would argue that they never do. And most people, like Isabel said, don't understand what an abortion actually is. They don't understand the procedure. They don't understand how barbaric and gruesome that this is whatsoever. And for Brandon to actually get up there and actually make this woman confront the reality of the thing that she's defending is so important. And we need to see more of it because it is a very uncomfortable truth to face. You saw how uncomfortable she was and she was sitting there as a staunch defender of it. Yeah, it's not like she was about to have an abortion. She was in a House testimony just talking about words and descriptions of what is done in these procedures.

1:40:15You know, we've one of the battles that we've seen in the abortion area over the year is sometimes Republicans have passed laws requiring the would be abortive mother to look at a photo of the fetus before she has the abortion. And that has been struck down by courts over and over as too much of an impingement on the right. And that never made sense to me. I mean, I think the bare minimum you can ask a mother who's about to abort her child is to look at what's there. See, like, ideally an ultrasound. Absolutely. Like, see the baby moving. If you still want to make that decision right now, it is your right.

1:40:56It is your legal right. But why shouldn't we insist on informed consent and the information being delivered? And if the woman still wants to do it, yes, that is still her right in various states. But at the bare minimum seems to be that we can require them to look at the child they created. This seems like just such an obviously fair thing to require. You had the sex. You did the act. You knew the risks of doing that. In 99.9 % of cases, all the abortion advocates always want to point out rape and incest. It's like that's almost none of the cases. you should look at your baby. You should look at your son or daughter before you choose to do this.

1:41:41It just seems to me a matter of basic fairness. Okay. Big, big switch of gears here because I meant to get to this earlier, but I forgot when we were talking about Emily Blunt and her blasé attitude about finding a new job. Lisa Kudrow, who is a very famous actress. She made her name on Friends and then she went on to become a movie star. She's working on a new project now And bizarrely, she has chosen to speak out about her time on Friends. Now, it just came out that thanks to the residuals deal these actors struck, that they are each still earning an estimated$20 million a year. Each of them still on this show that's been off the air for decades now.

1:42:25Never mind what they were earning at the time, which was ultimately$1 million an episode for each of them because the show was such a hit and they had greater bargaining power and they used it. Fine, no one begrudges them that. But you would think if that were you, you would have one basic guiding principle, which would be gratitude. Gratitude for being cast in the show, to the writers for making you sound funnier than you probably were, and to the American public for making you so rich, right? Uh, she's gone a different way. This is, uh, an interview she gave in the times of London. Okay. Uh, she says, first of all, friends captured a kind of innocence that maybe younger generations have never gotten to experience, but was it really that innocent asks the times?

1:43:13Oh no. She says there was definitely mean stuff going on behind the scenes at the start. They were each paid$22 ,500 an episode, but instead of competing, they negotiated as a team and they got$1 million an episode. Okay. We talked about that. She took the lead. She's a badass, you know, girl boss, I guess she took the lead in the negotiations, but she writes, she writes as a result. Okay. She, Aniston and Cox, meaning Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox became the highest paid television actresses in the world at the time. But Kudrow now 62 is talking about the show's writer's room on the Warner brothers lot in Burbank, California, where the show was film.

1:43:49She says it contained 12 to 15 staff, mostly men, some of whose gags have made it into popular culture. Oh my God is an expression of melodramatic outrage. Thanks to them. We were on a break is another one for philandering originating in this room and so on. Don't forget, we were recording in front of a live audience of 400, she says. And if you messed up one of those writers lines, or it didn't go or didn't get the perfect response, they could be like, can't the bitch fucking read? She's not even trying. She fucked up my line. And we know that back in the room, the guys would be up late discussing their sexual fantasies about Jennifer and Courtney.

1:44:32It was intense. Okay. Already like what, what do you, okay. So they were mad when you messed up their lines because they wanted them read the way they wanted them read. Hello. Welcome to every writer anywhere who writes for an actor or actress, ask Neil Simon, the greatest playwright ever. If you changed one of his words, you would get it from him. You might not get cast in his next play. The writers want it read the way they wrote it. That's the way they envisioned it. They're the comedians, not you. In 1999, they point out there was a sexual harassment court case brought by the writer's assistant, Amani Lyle, whose job it was to transcribe brainstorming sessions.

1:45:10She was shocked to hear Friends writers discussing sleeping with Aniston and Cox, feigning masturbation, and receiving oral sex. Crucially, Lyle lost the case. At the time, that was seen as a victory for creative freedom for the writers on one of the most popular TV shows of all time. Oh, says Kudrow, it could be brutal, but these guys, and it was mostly men in there, were sitting up until 3 a.m. trying to write the show. So my attitude was, say what you like about me behind my back because it doesn't matter. She says, waving her hands in front of her with Phoebe like distaste. Why does any of this matter now?

1:45:46Ask the writer fast forward to two decades and they're meeting Kudrow in London to discuss the return of her HBO max sitcom, the comeback, which she co-wrote with Michael Patrick King. So she's turned over this new leaf gals where she's like going to criticize the writers. They were sexist pigs. They fantasized about having sex with Jennifer Aniston. And who is she co-writing this show with? I mean, reportedly the biggest sexist pig writing material anywhere, other than, is it Darren Starr, the other guy? Michael Patrick King, who was a key writer and director for Sex and the City, which truly is a misogynistic property.

1:46:27But Lisa Kudrow's got thoughts now, Priya, on the writers who made her a multi-millionaire. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think this is so funny, of course, again, it like rings very similar to the Me Too movement. Of course, like when you're in these situations and you're benefiting from these people, you know, it's all fine and dandy. You'll brush things under the rug. But 20 years later, after you've had some chance to reflect, you all of a sudden regret or all of a sudden they're sexist pigs. And, you know, I just find this so ridiculous. I mean, look, it's not it's uncouth and it's, you know, not appropriate for these men to be fantasizing about these women.

1:47:04But that's just the reality of things. That's, I guess, what being a man kind of is. You fantasize about women. You're sexually attracted to them. I would advise them to not do it in the workplace. But, you know, I don't understand why that's just such a big deal. It's not like they were, you know, directly sexually harassing her or anything of that sort. And, you know, again, she brushed it under the rug 20 years ago, but all of a sudden it's a problem. And again, now she's writing, she's writing a new show with like the, probably one of the most sexist pigs that are out there. yeah and isabel it's like first of all it's the 1990s you know it's like you girls weren't yet born but trust me i was there and this was a nothing to have somebody like talk about you sexually not when you're not even there whose job it is to write sometimes saucy scenes for you and sexualized scenes for you i mean i would be concerned if they weren't thinking about jennifer aniston like that every man in america was looking at her thinking about that this is just so cheap, right?

1:48:03Because she's the star and these guys aren't Isabel. So they don't, they're not getting interviewed by the Times of London. And they're certainly not making $20 million a year still off of their clever jokes like she is. And it wasn't just every man fantasizing about the character of Rachel Green. She is every girl's archetype for what you still want to aspire to be in America. I prefer with friends, Megan, to just focus on the nostalgia of the show so much more than anything else. This remains one of Gen Z's most streamed TV shows. It is consistently a top 10 show on HBO Max. It's one of my comfort shows.

1:48:40I quote the show all the time, at least once a week. And I think it speaks so highly to a time in our culture where everything wasn't so constantly politicized the way that you're now seeing many of the actors even in the show take that into their next step in their career and the real world. It was just a group of friends navigating young adulthood and living in a big city and figuring out what it means to grow up. And I think it really makes our generation so nostalgic for a time we weren't here for or we don't remember because none of the TV shows marketed to young people, teenagers or young adults, are remotely like that anymore.

1:49:12I mean, have you seen Euphoria, what's marketed to be the best TV show for teenagers today? It's so dark. Yes. All the themes are dark and like drugs and raunchy, weird sex and like trans everything. It's like Friends was wholesome by any standard, you know, compared to what we put out there today. And funny, my favorite piece of Friends was the theme around Monica, Courtney Cox's character, on how competitive she was. How she couldn't keep it in check no matter how friendly, you know, the competition. that show gave us all so many funny laughs and it was appointment television. That was back in the day where, you know, you couldn't really watch TV at your leisure on your time schedule.

1:49:57You had to be in front of the TV on Thursday night at nine if you wanted to see it. And it was one of those things that brought the country together. You know, you girls could probably relate when I mentioned the words Tiger King, you know, like during COVID. That was something we all watched together and we all love doing that. And that's how TV used to be for the big hits. I would really rather this woman just say thank you and cash or checks gratefully. And gratitude is what I feel toward both of you for being here. Thank you so much for coming up. Have a great weekend. And we are back on Monday with Emily Jashinsky.

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