Shock Allegations Against Female Finance Exec, and LA's Own Socialist, with Adam Carolla, Plus Joseph Massey's Powerful New Poetry Book | Ep. 1307

28:54I'll work that one out. But I stand by my condom with the birthmark on it. Smart one. Okay. He alleges that he did report it to HR in May of 2025. And that's when the retaliation began. He wrote a written complaint to HR detailing what he described as race and gender-based discrimination and harassment and a pattern of severe sexual abuse. A week later, he claims the firm began to retaliate against him. And that included, he alleges, receiving anonymous, threatening phone calls from individuals he believed were acting on behalf of Hajdini and others attempting to scare him into silence. Quote, just wait till you're back in New York, brown boy.

29:36One caller allegedly told him, you better stay away, snitch. On June 9th, Doe claims that he received a voicemail from someone claiming to be a manager at J.P. Morgan, telling him he wasn't welcome because of his skin color, adding that people don't want you or your kind here. I don't believe a word of that either. This has got Jussie Smollett written all over it to me. And here's what J.P. Morgan said. following an investigation, so they did investigate, they're not idiots, we do not believe there is any merit to these claims. While numerous employees cooperated with the investigation, the complainant refused to participate and has declined to provide facts that would be central to supporting his allegations.

30:27Even though he does claim that he had at least two witnesses who can help support him, apparently JPMorgan Chase was not able to find any of them and is essentially saying that this whole thing is made up bullshit. Okay, so that's the whole story that as we know it so far, have you softened it all on the alleged defendant now that you hear the lengths to which his claims went? I have a lot of thoughts. One is Hajdini, and she keeps going back to the Indian thing. What is her nationality? Is she of some culture? Like maybe she's Egyptian and they have a long running feud with the Indians or something like that.

31:09Like what is she? Because she sounds Indian. Hajjini. Doesn't Hajjini sound Indian? I guess. Yeah, I don't. And maybe she is. And maybe that's why she has some sort of comfort with throwing these things out. I don't know. If she's a brown girl, she can say, are you brown boy? Yeah, well, you know, you know, the rules for the N word and things of that nature. You know what I mean? We can't use it. But if you're in the tribe. Right. So maybe and I'm going to have my guys pull it up on the screen here. But Hajdini, do we know her nationality? Because if she is Indian, then then maybe there is some connection.

31:51I. I. I. Steve Krakauer is saying he thinks it's Albanian, Albanian, the the oft forgotten Albanian. And did the Albanians have some sort of running feud with the Indians or some sort of territorial war that we're unaware of? I like this. Let's turn it into a world events discussion. Yes. Let's let's broaden it out and see what's global. We got to go global with this is what I'm saying. This is why you have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I don't. Well, remember, I don't have it yet. But once again, this will be our last encounter on your show. I say again, I think this is made up. I think at worst, there was an affair between the two of them that led him to have some of the details about like the toe sucking.

32:41That was the other thing. Did he get busted by his wife and then concoct this or did he come forward with this? That's what I need to know. Albanian. Otherwise, my people say she's giving the Pete Hegseth accuser vibes. You know, like he he raped me when I stayed when I snuck into his hotel room in the middle of the night as my husband and children were sleeping down the hallway. Right. And I swear I didn't do that voluntarily. what kind of a psychopath would do that voluntarily? So I swear it was rape. Like this does have like, I cried the whole time, honey. I swear, I cried. Yeah, so maybe it's him trying to get out of being busted.

33:23I don't know. Albanian is what my screen says in terms of her nationality. So I don't know if there was a civil or a war between India and Albania. I don't know. I don't roll that deep. Okay. Speaking of, she's an attractive gal for the listening audience. Speaking of attractive gals, Miller Lite has just unleashed a new ad campaign featuring the gymnast Olivia Dunn, who is very attractive. And she's going to be, I guess, their spokesmodel. And she looks hot. She's in a bar. She's drinking Miller Lite. And Adam, good for them. We're getting back to what beer ought to be, which is something people enjoy, in particular men, marketed to them by hot women, operative terms, being hot and woman.

34:20And it's basically a middle finger here to Bud Light, which tried to go another way and is still suffering as a result of it after their whole Dylan Mulvaney excursion. Your thoughts on it? Yeah. I don't like brands trying to kind of steer culture in general or get preachy about stuff. It always bothers me that when you go into a coffee shop and they go in this coffee shop, we believe no one is elite. Just shut up and bring me the stupid coffee. I don't need – I don't want the lecture. Those same people are cheering President Trump's latest assassination attempt against him. Oh, right. They believe in all the wonderful things, but they'd love to see him get a bullet in the brain.

35:04Right. And science, we believe in science, but you're going to be thrown out of this coffee house if you're not wearing a mask that doesn't work. Like, it's insane. It drives me nuts. People don't really remember that it's gone back a long time. And I'll give you an example. When I grew up and you grew up and you watched a car commercial, they talked about mileage. They talked about sticker price. They talked about rust proofing. They would talk about warranties, you know, powertrain, 15 ,000 mile warranty, rough rust proofing body, 100 ,000 mile built for tough, you know. And then we get into Subaru, which is made with love.

35:45And the Subaru commercial doesn't talk about price, lease, mileage, horsepower, curb weight, nothing. There's no numbers involved with it. It's literally just puppies driving a Subaru. there is a Volkswagen commercial where a biracial gay couple adopts a sheep. Look it up, Megyn Kelly listeners. I am not kidding you. It's a black guy and a white guy driving their Volkswagen Tigger on out and a sheep basically adopts them and they take it home like it's a dog. It's insane. I don't even, you have to watch the commercial five times to even figure out what they're advertising. You forget that they're advertising an SUV.

36:26so Madison Avenue has strayed so far off of this and of course Dove with all the fat chick models and this is what new beauty looks like and blah blah blah it's not we want to get back to basics guys who drink beer want to look at hot chicks not fat chicks and or trans chicks or whatever the hell they're pushing this week. And it's nice. And some of that is Trump, but also a lot of that is just America. We don't like being force-fed ideology we disagree with. Yeah. Oh, it's funny what you just said. Guys like to see hot chicks drinking beer to be marketed to. It reminds me of recently, I was talking to a dear friend of mine.

37:15We both have daughters who are about the same age, 14, 15. And we were taught, I made the joke that before they sort of really get out into the dating world, we should buy them a copy of that book, The Rules, that used to be popular when, you know, you and I were younger, which has rules for like landing a man, you know, like it's basically play hard to get and don't give it up too easily. And she looked at me, my friend, and she was like, do we really need to? They're so simple. It's so simple what they want. It's like two lines. You kind of just summed it up. You know what I mean? We don't need to read a book.

37:53We don't need to give a book to anybody. We kind of know what men want and how to get them. However, we should be sending a copy of The Rules to Alex Cooper, who is the sex podcaster, Adam. You were kind of, you started in sex podcasting in a way, you and Dr. D on Loveline that everybody listened to back in the day. And you took questions on love life and sex life and all the stuff and had great advice. It was like the pairing was magic. So I'll get you to weigh in on her advice. Like her whole podcast was born in talking dirty. And now she, she's trying to make herself into Oprah. Good luck. All right.

38:34And this is her latest on what girls should do on the first date. Sat eight. No kissing on a first date. Well, sometimes I fucked them on the first date. How about that one? How about I let him eat me out on the first date and I married him? No, just kidding. He didn't eat me out. That was like the second time. I've had so many dates where like I had great first date kisses and I was like, oh my God, I'm never calling you but oh who doesn't love a make out like make outs are so fun okay and so kiss them the first date fucking sleep with them the first night like I don't care you have to go based on what feels good to your body and what feels right to you and so if you have some fucking friends that are prudes that are like you should never kiss on the first date you're gonna give them the wrong impression and they're just gonna think you're a whore okay maybe for you Cassandra but I'm about to let him in my back door on night two.

39:27You don't have to do anal on night two, but you could. Whatever feels right. If a man is going to treat you like a piece of shit and isn't going to call you, he's not going to treat you like a piece of shit just because you fucked him or made out with him on the first night. A man knows. Yes, he is. Okay. Maybe make out with him so you stop wasting your time. What if like small lip Sammy is like barely gets a little tongue in there and you're like, I can't even fucking find. We're just hitting teeth. You're probably not going to want to fuck Sammy. But good to know that you got it done on the first date.

40:02We're maximizing our time, people. Wait, does she work at JP Morgan? I'll let you take it. I don't recognize her. No one does. Okay. We're having a problem. You know, sometimes I think about you, Megan, and I go, Well, she's a woman, but on the other hand, she has a man's brain. So I guess I can speak freely. And since this will be my last appearance on the show, I might as well put my cards on the table, which is we sort of, we didn't do women right in the last 20 years. We basically told them every feeling you have is valid. Every thought you have is valid. you need to act however you want to act, but more like a man sexually would be better for you.

40:53And you, there is no more, that's not very ladylike or young lady wouldn't say that or do that. You're completely free and you can do whatever you want and say whatever you want. And they become more miserable, had less kids. You know, we told them they didn't need to have kids. They didn't need to be a mother in any kind of traditional way. They didn't even need a traditional relationship. And most of them are insane and suicidal and childless at 35. Now, this is not a good thing. The traditional roles with all that comes with that. And listen, there's roles with men. Men should know how to fix something around the house when you and your woman are on a road trip and you get a flat, it is the man who gets out of the car, gets the spare out and fixes and changes the tire.

41:48And I like that, and I like the traditional roles, and I think it's good. By the way, it doesn't make you a servant to the other person. It makes you useful to the other person, and then the other person has useful qualities as well. And we got away from the roles. We got away from the responsibilities. We told women, say whatever you want, cuss as much as you want, be angry as much as you want. And I think they're sort of coming unraveled. And having anal sex on the first date is probably not advisable. Although there was a saying, Megan, that goes back to the 70s that I believe I'd like to modify, which is Wynum Dynum 69um.

42:42I don't know if you've heard that one. No, no. This is great stuff. It's good stuff. It's on my license plate frame right now. That's why I'm always mindful of it. But I would argue it shouldn't be Wynum Dynum 69um. It should be Wynum 69um Dynum because you want to eat after you 69, not before. You know what I mean? You don't want to go out for Hungarian food and then 69. That's all. Yeah. You're really just kind of deciding on the appetizer. I understand. And it's just like civilized people would choose one way instead of the other. I think this gal is leaning into, she feels like this is empowering for young women to say this.

43:29And yet, and she's too young, she's young to have spoken to the reams of women that I've interviewed and met over the course of my life who made those same choices and then wound up deeply, deeply unhappy. Because even if you do wind up getting married, finding a great partner, he doesn't care about your very loose past, you care. You feel disgusting. And what tends to happen is women who make that choice, the reason, like she says, whatever works for you, the reason it would potentially work for one woman generally is she's looking for somebody else to make her feel good about herself, to make her feel beautiful, to make her feel loved, to make her feel like she matters.

44:12And it's this ultimate irony that the more of these meaningless one-night stands a woman has, the less she feels any of that. As he's trying to seduce her, she might feel that. In the actual moment she might feel desired and so on. And then as soon as she walks, watches him walk out only to never call her again, cause he's been there, done that. And since she gave it up so easily, he knows many, many, many others have been here too, which is gross. He's not going to call her again. And she's, it's going to lead to more feelings of self loathing. That's generally how it works out for these women.

44:48Well, I mean, just think about the, you take a topic like abortion, that would have been several decades ago in this country, a closely guarded family secret. And now women are bragging into microphones in front of crowds about how many abortions they've had. This concept of what's right for you, you know, you talk about love line and me doing it for 10 years. Um, there is, we got ourselves into trouble going. Everyone's an individual. Everyone is different. Not everything works. No, no diet and exercise for everybody. And you'll lose weight. There's no, your concept on weight loss or his concept on weight.

45:30We are biological entities. We're all the same. I used to say on love line all the time, they'd go, you don't know this person. You don't know that person. I go, listen, if I want to study polar bear migration, do I have to study all of them individually. I study 50 polar bears. I'm an expert on all polar bears. That's how it works. And human beings are the same goddamn way. I'm tired of arguing with everyone about what's right for you. What's right. No, no. There are things that work and it applies to running cities, running governments, personal relationships, happiness, weight loss, sanity.

46:08it's all real basic stuff and we've decided to throw it all away with some sort of individualism bs that doesn't work at all yeah no i i think you're right and i think my rules will work for all women and i think her rules will hurt all women i really do i think you should not listen to her and by the way not for nothing i don't think it matters whether you're super attractive or you're you know not but i do think she shouldn't she also can't speak for all women because she is a beautiful gal and she might have had repeated opportunities with men, notwithstanding her obvious loose approach to sex because of that.

46:50And then she started making a bunch of money doing this podcast that probably helped her too. Whereas like a less attractive woman who just so easily gives it up over and over is probably not going to get repeat calls. So like, let's just keep that in mind too. Just don't, don't listen to this person. Uh, If you find her conversations interesting, good on you. But don't actually follow that advice. I urge you, my fellow women, especially young women. There is only one hot blonde you need to listen to, people. And her name is Megan Kelly. And I say that with a tear in my eye because this will be my last appearance.

47:26Last appearance ever. Okay. There are plenty of hot blondes. One of them is named Olivia Wilde. less hot than ever, I would say, and less blonde than ever. Depends on the course of her, you know, movie career or TV show she's on. But she was speaking, this is on Friday, so days ago, at the San Francisco International Film Festival. And this picture of her, and video too, it's from a video, has gone everywhere because it looks like, here's the before eight years ago, and there's the after on the right. Wow. And people are saying, oh, it's the camera angle. I mean, there's a video. I watched the video.

48:06She looks skeletal. She looks like she should go into the hospital right now because she looks like a corpse with the very sullen eyes, like the eyeballs sticking out the way they do on a true anorexic who's there's nothing left but skin and bones. and that's what her face looks like, just skin and bones and absolutely no fat, which you do need for beauty. She looks truly unwell, Adam. And she's just the latest example. I don't know if she's on Ozempic. She certainly looks like she's on Ozempic. And there appear to be some people in Hollywood who can take Ozempic and look good, like I'm assuming all of the Kardashians.

48:53And then there are these people who I probably had an eating disorder anyway. You know what I mean? And for whom this drug has allowed them to take it to a place that is truly sick. This is just my opinion. I have no confirmation she's doing any of this. But this the drastic transformation of this woman is shocking. Agreed. OK, a bunch of thoughts. One is you're talking about Hollywood, but let's talk about Washington and we can talk about Hollywood as well. I don't know if you've noticed, but Tim Walz looks like he's down about 45 pounds from when he was. Oh, my God. Is he on the shot? Well, OK, hear me out.

49:36Tim Walz was running for vice president and on the campaign trail and everywhere all the time and never thought to lose an ounce of weight. I mean, seemed to just be overweight for that entire run. And then that ended, and he looks like he's down 35 or 40 pounds in the last few months. Karen Bass, our mayor of Los Angeles, was not obese, but she was kind of heavyset, a little bit roly-poly, a little bit round in the face. She looks like she's down about 20 pounds herself. Katie Porter, our favorite. Katie Porter. I saw that one. She decided to stop eating mashed potatoes, evidently, off her husband's head.

50:25So relieved. That's such a relief for everyone in her family. Katie Porter's got to be down 30 pounds from her heavy weight. Maybe more, right? J.B. Pritzker is not what he was. Yes. He is down. So, yes, these people are all in their 50s. They were all heavy set, morbidly obese, porky, fat all the way through. And then all of a sudden they kind of hit the national stage. And you look at Pritzker, Katie Porter. I think all of them are on it because they all made a drastic move in like the last six months. But I support that. Like Katie Porter looks a lot better. And like J.B. Pritzker was going to die if he let himself go on like that.

51:15This by like the super skinny actress who goes skeletal, truly skeletal, if that in fact is what she's doing and how she did it, is so wrong. And it's like, well, who keeps giving her the drug? Like when she comes in for the weigh in, like and she's down to like 90 pounds from the looks of it. what doctors like yeah let's keep this rolling let's see if we can get down to 30 um i really think you're seeing mental illness on the faces of a lot of these celebrities yes and it's a terrible it's a terrible message for for young girls in particular like if you can't handle it and keep it at a regular like healthy body weight you need to go off of it um stand by there's much more to discuss but we have to take a quick break adam carolla lucky us is with us on the opposite side.

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54:01Back with me now is Adam Carolla. He's host of The Adam Carolla Show and a very, very famous star in Hollywood, which is why this will be his last appearance ever on The Lowly Megyn Kelly Show. We are so honored to be here with him for the time he's willing to share. It's important, the star on the Hollywood Boulevard. It's big. It's not quite as big as being a U.S. congressman. But this, you know, one day maybe you could shoot for that sort of fame and power. Until then, you're just going to have to admire and feel envy for the likes of Jasmine Crockett, who would like you to know that she's extremely, extremely important.

54:45She sat down with Sherry Shepard, formerly of The View, who's now doing her own show, I guess, and said the following. Let me tell you, I was front seat when you said beach blonde, bad built, butch body. When I tell you you's a queen killer bee the way you read, even Cardi B would be proud of you. There's no preparation for that. But, you know, I'm a black woman in America. So, I mean, you know, I mean, some people are just like, oh, but you're a congresswoman. I'm a black woman first. And so, you know, the level of disrespect that is continuously lobbed against us as black women. You know, for me, I'm like, wait a minute now.

55:36I am one of the 535 most powerful people in this country. and for some reason you think we on the same level, but you're going to disrespect me, like it's not going to happen. Oh my God. She's got, she's back with the black scent. Yeah. Like she doesn't talk like that. No. Right. She talks like you and I talk. Yes. But she dials it up. Yes. I'm black women first. Okay. All right, fine. And like the notion that you are one of the most important people in the country because you've attained a seat in the House of Representatives. My God. I mean, 1776 called and they'd like their relevant facts back.

56:18Yes. Unbelievable. Of course, it was not until the, you know, a decade or so later that we actually had. Anyway, keep going. Well, your thoughts on her. OK, I have a saying something I've been saying quite a bit lately that came out during COVID. But what I've been saying is all roads lead to narcissism. There are people are trying to explain what this behavior is or that behavior is or who are you to stop a neighbor and tell them to put a mask up when they're walking their dog and stuff. And it's like it's a narcissistic disorder we are under. And we used to keep ourselves in check. And now we've decided to celebrate our narcissism.

56:57And that's how you end up with a Jasmine Crockett saying insanely narcissistic things. Number two, whether it's her, Michelle Obama or Barack Obama, this race hustle, it's so nasty. And it's, by the way, hurting your culture and your people. This like as a black woman in America, tell me about it, bitch. I grew up poor. I grew up white. I dug ditches for a living and I couldn't be a fireman in L.A. County because I'm white. So I don't know what you're talking about. That is not the society we're living in. And you guys finding racism under every rock, it's not really affecting the Asian culture, the Jewish culture, the Indian culture, the Nigerian culture or the white culture.

57:45They're doing fine. It's fucking up your culture. Yeah. But can you imagine, Adam, let's say I was asked about anything and I said, I'm a white first. Right. Like an elected representative. Hey, whoa, I'm white. Before I'm a lawmaker. My first concern is for white people. Yeah. Because I'm white. That's basically what she's saying. Total pass. The audience is like clapping for her. We're supposed to give her snaps for this abject racism. Well, it's like Ilhan Omar. I'm Somali, you know, number one, you know, like, and I pledge allegiance to the Somali flag. It's like, this is the way endangered species talk in sort of predators that are apex predators.

58:29And I'll explain myself. When you get to play the race card or the woman card or they combine it to make a retarded peanut butter cup, which is I'm a woman and a black woman, no one can come to them and have a problem with them. And I will give you an example, Megan Kelly. When Gavin Newsom gets busted for eating at the French Laundry in the middle of COVID lockdowns, he has to come out and apologize. And he does. Now, he doesn't mean it. He doesn't believe in COVID and lockdowns, but he realizes the optics of it. He has to say it. When Lori Lightfoot, who's a triple endangered species because she's black, she's lesbian, and she's a female, when she gets busted for getting her hair cut, she has a presser that says, hey, I care about what I look like and I can't cut my own hair, so fuck off, and walks away.

59:26So they don't apologize. They don't have to apologize. So what we've told to black women is anytime anyone messes with you, just play the race card. And they figured out that that was a good way to keep people from messing with them. Yeah. Yeah. And they're absolutely right. I mean, like people will go right along with that. The Jasmine Crockett show has gone on long enough. We're all tired of it. You mentioned Ilhan Omar, that clip, it went viral over the weekend. Again, it's from January 2025, but it just underscores she's an idiot, just like Jasmine Crockett. Yes. Who would like us to think she's a bigger idiot than she actually, at least Jasmine Crockett went to law school.

1:00:06She graduated from law school. She could have had a decent career before she decided to sell out to be some sort of an actress. Well. Here's the clip, in case you understood of Ilhan Omar, who's reading. She's reading. And you'll see what happens. Yeah. The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants during World War XI. Oh, two. Sorry. All right. Oh, my God. Well, first off, I forgot. I did not see that Maisie Hirono was standing next to her because I think Ilhan Omar was like, hey, I got to do a presser. Maisie, can you stand next to me?

1:00:47And Maisie's like, I got nothing to do with that presser. And she's like, listen, I don't want to be the dumbest person in this room. So please, Maisie, stand next to me like a like a guy, like a fat guy going. I need a guy who's really fat to stand next to me. So I don't look like the fat guy in the room. Like Maisie Hirono is the only one dumber than Ilhan Omar. And so I think she must stand next to her all the time. And I want to say this, like in general, when you hear the lady with the purple hair, the old cat lady who's screaming at Pete Hegseth or RFK Jr. or whoever it is about, you know, about raw milk or something like that.

1:01:28right Deloro. Okay. I want to say this with like respect to anybody on the left, but I really want you to think about this. You may disagree with Jim Jordan and you may disagree with Pete Hegseth, but they don't seem functionally retarded and insane. Maxine Waters, Deloro, Ilhan Omar, Maisie Hirona, these people sound like doorknobs. They sound like special needs people. It's one thing to articulate yourself and you have a different argument than I have, but we can tell the synapses are firing. We can tell there's brain cells there. You on the left have a lot of people just seem like flat out dopes.

1:02:15You would not want them walking your dog. Or your skunk. Right. I'm making a transition here back to our earlier conversation in which you talked about the two gay guys in the car with a sheep, like the sheep is their new pet. It reminded me of something I was told recently by one of the ladies in town, that the latest trend is to adopt a skunk. You have, I guess the sprayer is something that can be removed. They remove the sprayer so that the skunk will not spray the homeowner. Look at this woman. For the listening audience, She's got a skunk on a leash and she's walking her skunk. And like they don't need to defend themselves, I guess the thinking is, anymore because you're domesticating them.

1:03:04They live 10 to 12 years and you can take them back home and live peacefully with your pet skunk, Adam, because everyone's got to outdo everyone. It's not enough to have a cute dog. You know, the French Bulldog was in for a while. The the doodles were in for a while. And now you have to outdo everybody and you have to have a pet skunk. Well, I hope you don't have a cat as well, because I've seen enough episodes of Pepe Le Pew to know how that can go south fast. That Pepe Le Pew guy could have been. He wouldn't do it. He could have been management at J.P. Morgan with his sexual drive. I mean, let me tell you something.

1:03:47I think the biggest danger to your pet skunk is going to be the unsuspecting visitor. You know, like the Amazon guy who's just trying to deliver a package. Yes. Oh, and like throws the heavy box at him. I think they're in danger. They belong in the wild. Here is the commercial that you referenced. My crack team dug it up. You're going to love it. Have you seen this before? No. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. Let's watch it. Nobody can tell ya There's only one song was singing There's one lone sheep looking at two guys getting into their car

1:04:29Oh god, they brought it home It has a leash It's drinking out of the bowl Life gets bigger when you break from her They're walking in on the beach The Volkswagen Tiguan

1:04:47I, I, you know, my fantasy is, is I, I want to go, I want to build a time machine, like not to kill Hitler, Napoleon or anything, just to go back to like 1963 and go to Mad Men era times, you know, go to Madison Avenue, guys drinking martinis for lunch, smoke and slapping the secretary on the ass. And then I go, let me show you the future of advertisement. Here's a commercial and they go Volkswagen. Yeah. Yeah. Those guys, you mean the Hitler mobile guys? Yeah. Yeah. They got a commercial. They got a commercial. I want you to watch it. And they'd go, what the hell are those two fellas living together for?

1:05:26He's got a Negro in his house. What the hell's going on around here? It's so true. They wouldn't know what it was. You look back, I loved Mad Men, and it reminds me like that sort of time where like they drank with, you know, abandoned. They smoked nonstop. Recently, Tucker had his brother Buckley Carlson on, who is now my favorite person on Earth. This guy is, I need to know him. You know, T minus whatever until we get him on the MK show. But he's like super tan. This is Tucker's younger brother by two years. super tan kind of grizzled is there in his suit he doesn't have to be in his suit he's with his brother you know like he's got like at least the suit coat on and that and the collared shirt he's smoking camels and the two of them open up the discussion on how they used to like john mccain when they were young growing up in washington but what turned them against john mccain was he led the fight against big tobacco and they were both like such bullshit how they He demonized big tobacco.

1:06:33And I have to tell you, there's something about it that was somewhat cathartic. Because, like, everything now is so maha. You can't drink. You can't smoke. You can't do anything, really, without feeling like you're killing yourself that moment. Like, you might not make it to midnight that day. And, like, you've got to do this number of exercise. And it has to be this taxing. And then you have to do this other exercise. And you can't have the plastics. And you can't drink out of the soda can. And you can't have the gum. And you can't. And it's just it's overwhelming, isn't it, Adam? And I feel like now when we need all those vices more than ever, we're not allowed to have any of them.

1:07:11I agree. And, you know, it's interesting. We waged a war on smoking several years ago and essentially eradicated it. But we said that pot was good for you somehow. and alleviated many of the symptoms of this and that and the other. And so now we got a whole bunch of young people who don't smoke but do smoke pot. They don't smoke cigarettes, but they smoke pot, and it's fucking them up. And we're so backwards and dumb in California that if you went to Santa Monica and asked the average mom in Santa Monica, California, Would you rather your teenage son smoke cigarettes or smoke pot? They would all say pot.

1:07:59Yes, I think that's right. I think, look, we've gotten we've just gone too far. You know, it's like in the same way you shouldn't be having two packs a day or four packs a day of cigarettes. Like, do we have to get rid of all vices now when we're looking at like, I don't know, an unnecessary war in the Middle East? We just did a segment yesterday that totally freaked me out on AI, which is not only going to render all of our children jobless, but all the rest of us possibly homeless and also possibly dead. This morning, the news broke about how they've made this massive breakthrough in fighting and detecting pancreatic cancer.

1:08:40The big one, the one that like you get pancreatic cancer, everybody thinks you're dead. You know, I mean, that's how it was when we grew up. It's like that one only can get discovered way too late in the process and you're toast. Now they've got this AI thing that can read like years in advance about whether you have pancreatic cancer. Great, great. I'm like, this is wonderful. But we'll be dead from a nuke unleashed on us by an AI robot before we can ever actually have that saving moment. It just seems like there's a lot of existential crises to concern ourselves with. And I'm really not a worrier.

1:09:11I am not a worrier. But like that stuff, it's happening, right? It's like my husband's a writer in the book world. They're like only a couple more years left of, you know, authorships. In the reporting world, there's young reporters who believe that job's going away because AI can do the job of a young reporter. In the law, you don't need first through third year lawyers anymore who do all the research. That completely can be done by AI. In medicine, surgeries, my friend is getting a hernia surgery. The guy gave him the option. Do you want a doctor to do it or a surgeon or do you want the machine to do it?

1:09:44It's like it's happening. The AI takeover is already happening. So in any event, we need our liquor and we might need unfiltered camels. I've never been a smoker, but I'm thinking about taking it up. Agreed. Good. I'm glad. Well, that's a moment of unity in our last time together. I appreciate that. That'll give us something to do the next time we see each other. And by the way, Megan, I understand the optics of this. You and I can maintain a friendship off the air. It's not like we can't hang around and have a scotch and an unfiltered camel together. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I can no longer be on your program because of the obvious chasm between the two of us.

1:10:27But there are many other people I won't be able to do as well because of the obvious space. Disparity. Yeah, the disparity. Sorry. OK, I totally get it. I am now being moved to the back of the dark bar friend category as opposed to the one who can be on the arm at like a movie premiere. And I accept you on whatever terms you're willing to be with me, Adam. Right now, I'll give you an example. Did you see the movie Goodfellas? in the Goodfellas he was married to Lorraine Bracco or whoever it was but he had his side piece stashed in that apartment building okay that's kind of where you're going to be living with me but that's all right I'll come by and we'll weigh out some coke and have a good time and smoke some camel unfilters and drink ourselves some scotch it's fine and I and I feel like even in that role, if somebody were to try to molest me, you would beat him to within an inch of his life with your pistol the way Henry did, right?

1:11:38Hold on, Megan. I'm sorry. He did that for his wife. He did that for his wife. I know. But that's not. No, but in this scenario. Yeah. But if you're being accurate to the movie, he did that for his wife, who he loves very much and lives with and goes openly out publicly with. You are my guma who stashed in the one bedroom, but I will come by. We will do coke. But if somebody molests you, you're kind of on your own. Me and my pet skunk. That's right. That's one of the greatest lines ever. When Lorraine Rocco in her character, she goes, I got to admit the truth. It turned me on. She's so good in that movie.

1:12:17And poor Ray Lee ought to gone too soon. I agree. All right. I want to ask you a question about L.A. The mayoral race is in full swing out there. And I know everybody's excited about Spencer Pratt, but this just broke before we came to air. Poly market, you know, people have to put money behind their bets there. So we do pay some attention to what they're betting. And this just in, Democratic Socialist, how do you pronounce that? Nithya Raman, right? She's running out there. Dubbed the next mom, Donnie, is now projected to win the L.A. mayoral election. 60 percent chance, reports Polly Market, that she will lead the City of Angels.

1:13:02So you, too, may be in for a Democratic socialist there. And we don't know what you're going to get at the gubernatorial level. We're praying it's Steve Hilton, but we don't, you know, once it goes out to the general, who knows? And on top of that, this let's take 5 % of a billionaire's assets away from him, thanks to a ballot initiative that's going to be up for the vote. 1.5 million people signed on to having this be a ballot initiative, and now it's going to be in November. Yeah. So you can be in California. You can make it in Silicon Valley or in the Hollywood movie industry. You might be a billionaire.

1:13:435 % of your assets on which you've already paid tax. You earned your money. You paid 50 percent tax, as the richest Americans do. You have some money left over. You buy you buy a nice house. You buy a Mercedes. You buy a swimming pool, all the things that has a net worth. And the government's coming back for more, wanting to take five percent of your net worth dated back to January. So even if you left in February, left in March, left this summer, no, you were here in January. So we're taking it. And then you can have a Democrat socialist to answer to in L.A. and we don't know what in the statehouse.

1:14:18Your thoughts. Nithya Raman is a full fledged dope. Now, she's dangerous because she's a socialist, but she's also a dope. And I would ask your crack staff to pull up a clip which will blow your mind, Megan. And I played it on my program many times. It's a little window into how insane she is and what a true socialist she is. We have a big problem in Los Angeles, which is stealing of catalytic converters. People are getting shot and killed, not to mention just the scourge of waking. All the people who work for me have woken up, walked out to their car to realize their catalytic converter was stolen.

1:15:02in. Now it's because Los Angeles become a third world. You're stealing minerals at this point. We're stealing catalytic converters to get the metals out of them. Just like we pull the copper out of the street lamps to sell the copper, the minerals we're selling. So we have spiraled into some no man's land where we're no longer stealing TV sets and car stereos. We're literally pulling elements, copper elements out of streetlights. She, Nithya Raman, spoke about this problem and she spoke about who was to blame for the stealing of the catalytic converters. And guess who she blamed? She blamed Toyota.

1:15:48She said it was Toyota's fault that these catalytic converters were being stolen because they make it so easy for people to steal that basically compels people to steal. A catalytic converter is in the center of the car, underneath the car, basically tucked up in what would be a transmission tunnel, and it is welded in place. You must get a floor jack, jack the car up, get under it with a sawzall with a by-cutting metal blade or a wheel with a four inch grinder right angle with a carborundum blade and literally cut the thing out you must cut it out sparks will be flying you don't just detach it you have to literally cut it it is welded into the middle of the exhaust system and there is a clip of her explaining how easy it is for to steal and saying it's Toyota's fault for making it so easy to steal.

1:16:52This woman is categorically insane. She's insane. That's right up your alley. Dangerous ideas. And she is easily the she is more dangerous than Karen Bass. And she's a full fledged dope. Wow. I mean, that boy, did she step on a rake when it comes to your wheelhouse? When And of all people, you're lifelong Angeleno and you're an expert on all things car and mechanical. And she decided to mix the two. Oh, we did. Oh, here it is. You are going to marvel at her stupidity. And Megan, just because this is going to be our last ride. Picture this. Put your lawyer hat on and picture her making this case in court in front of you.

1:17:37We have a company, you know, the Prius, whatever, Toyota, who makes the Prius, that essentially has a device on their cars, which is super easy to remove. It's basically the value of a MacBook, right, that is put in a place that is incredibly easy to access in your car. and then the facts related to this issue have essentially all of the costs of that are given to us to bear instead of them having to manufacture a car that actually is not so easy to be stolen. Oh my God. By the way, she can't even speak. I can hear the stupidity. She's like, instead of them manufacturing a car that's not so easily to be stolen.

1:18:25Okay, well, we're not stealing the car. So she's basically saying if you leave a laptop on your passenger seat and somebody smashes the window and takes it, it's on you for leaving a laptop on your passenger seat. These damn people who are asking the damn women who wear the short skirts, what do they think is going to happen? You shouldn't be jogging at night, my lady. That's kind of on you. We have another from her. Here's the other one we have cut, Deb. Let's watch it. I mean, it's like I don't think a kid's going to be safer because a tent is 500 feet away from a school.

1:19:09She's defending the placement of homeless tents near schools. Yes. Saying a kid's not going to be safer if the tent's 500 feet away. It's fine. Right. She rolled her eyes. She shrugged her shoulders and rolled her eyes when she was asked if it's safe for homeless encampments to be put up right near city school. So great. So welcome to our world. I'm not in New York anymore, but I'm in the city all the time. Welcome to our world. I don't really hope you get a mom, Donnie, but if you do, you'll deserve it for having abandoned me so quickly as soon as your star ascended. That's the truth. Well, you know, it is kind of she does make a point in this sense, which is we have many, many schools in Los Angeles.

1:19:56There's hundreds of schools in Los Angeles and we have thousands, tens of thousands of homeless people. So at a certain point, there's a math problem, which is if you're going to have 100000 people living on the streets and you're going to have 5000 schools, it's going to be nearly impossible to keep them all from being in front of the school. True. Yeah. You may have to do something about the actual problem. So they'll go through the schools in L.A. They may walk outside and see the homeless encampments and the drug needles and the bent over methadone people who are staring at my star, a star and then if they study really hard and do really well, they could one day wind up at Oxford.

1:20:37and what they may or may not see, depending on what part of Oxford they get into, is a professor by the name of Matt Radley. You won't be surprised when you see him to know that he goes by they, them. He's a lecturer, and this video of him has gone viral, though it was put out in January. Just now it's caught on. And let me introduce you to Matt, Adam. I'm in the process of putting a website together, and that is proving to be much harder than it probably should be and the problem are as big as the christy gnome husband affair partner um basically what does it mean to be an expert in something because it's really not obvious to me um at what point i could describe myself as an expert in something um i have expertise in things like i you know i've been teaching plenty He's got long blue fingernails.

1:21:32My chemistry's pretty solid. But I think... He's got a Paul Bunyan beard. I still have this feeling that declaring myself an expert in something is a little bit uncomfortable. And I don't quite know on what basis I would feel comfortable doing that. All right. Declaring yourself an expert in something is uncomfortable? How about your enormous breasts? They look like the Brian Gnome balloon breasts. He looks like Kayla Lemieux, the shop teacher up in Canada. This is an unwell person, quite clearly, having access to the Oxford students everywhere. Also, his beard looks like it was fashion from pubes.

1:22:17It has like a weird off-putting. It's off-putting, the beard. Also, it's also weird to see the beard interacting with the cleavage. You know what I mean? Because we successfully made it our entire time on this planet without ever seeing a beard interact with cleavage. Like I'm used to a medallion or a necklace or something. In the same person. In the same person. Yes. Yes. It is weird to see the same person's beard making contact with one's cleavage, which is awkward. I got dollars to donuts. This guy's T-minus five days from being in Brian Gnome's cell phone. This is a beautiful friendship is about to be formed here.

1:23:06This is what Brian Gnome is doing. Brian Gnome is putting in the fake huge boobs. He not only likes to look at them, he wears them like this guy, Matt Rattley. He puts them on the prosthetics in himself and prances around in his little leggings. We know from the Daily Mail his therapy didn't work. He gets off on this. That's fine if he wants to do that in the privacy of his cell phone with these ladies. That's between him and his wife, I guess. But this guy has access. Oxford hired him, Adam. And I'll bet you anything when you sign up to take Matt's class, they don't front for you. What the hell you're about to walk into?

1:23:45Now, I'll tell you the real problem here. The real problem is, is some kid is going to object and ask to be transferred out of his class and then they will attack that child. That's the problem. A student is going to protest and then that student shall be disciplined. And that's the really sick, twisted part. He's the beginning of the sick, twisted part. The real sick, twisted part is when somebody actually says the truth about something and then you get into you get pilloried and punished and suspended. Jordan Jordan Peterson style for speaking the truth. Yep. Yes. You know what? Remind your children they have the right to walk out.

1:24:31They have the right to say no. They have the right to never see this teacher again. And just much in the same way Adam's about to do to us. It's their right. They can leave you in the dust. They can leave, notwithstanding the many years of friendship. Because let's face it, bigger and better things are calling. Adam, good luck in your future endeavors. And we will be rooting for you. And also your occasional visits by our Charger d 'Affaire apartment. Yeah, I'll swing by. In our shiny blue dresses. I'll come by. Let's be ready. All right. Good luck. Thank you. Thanks, Megan. We'll see you soon, notwithstanding all the lies otherwise.

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1:29:23We are joined now by the official poet of the Megyn Kelly show, Joseph Massey. He is out with a new book of poetry called Invisible Current. In it, he includes a touching tribute to our friend, Charlie Kirk. Joseph, welcome back. It's great to see you. How are you? Well, it's great to see you too. I'm great. How are you? Good. You look cleaner cut. Are you like, did you have a makeover? Sort of. Not as extreme as Emily Jasinski's, but close. We will do the makeover for men, too. You are definitely eligible, notwithstanding the fact that you're XY instead of XX. Tell me where you are at this point in life, because we've been following your journey over these five years.

1:30:04As a reminder to the listening audience, you were terribly canceled by the truly evil poetry industry. They are among the meanest we have yet encountered amongst the cancellation brigade. And it was over an alleged Me Too situation where it was really just a meltdown with your ex where you were completely unfairly painted as this terrible man. And you decided not to stay down. You decided to just keep publishing on your own. No one would publish you. And you have managed to make a real career out of it. But at least five years, you went from like your sub stack is what dispatches from the basement.

1:30:41You were in the basement. You didn't really have a lot of nice things around you. And we've kind of watched you move up a little bit over the years. So what's tell us where you are now. Well, that moving on up process was in large part thanks to your show and your audience. And thank you for that. And since the last book was published, America is the Poem was the last book. That book was a major blowout success. It went up to number 14 on Amazon out of all books. Wow. For a self-published book of poetry, I'm not sure that's ever happened. And so the fact that I can sustain myself through royalties and substack subscriptions is completely unheard of in the poetry world.

1:31:31And the fact that I haven't just disappeared still continues to piss off the poetry literary mainstream. Great. But that's good. How do you know? Oh, because they tweeted me and post about me when I posted the poem for Charlie Kirk. Some guy took it, a fairly well-known poet, and rewrote it to make it as disgusting as possible. Things like that. Recently, a guy recorded a two-hour podcast about me and called me a piece of shit probably 50 times while admitting that he went over all the material about my cancellation and determined that I was framed and railroaded. But I have to be a POS to these people because I've been determined to be a pariah.

1:32:27And that's perfectly okay because I want nothing to do with them. Yeah, because in their world, you're nothing if you're not getting invited to the right cocktail parties or seminars or, you know, poetry book fairs. And you have to rub elbows with their kind, you see. And if you don't need them or play that game, you have to be otherized. You have to be put down a notch. They have to convince themselves you're a POS. That's the only reason you wouldn't be there. Otherwise, they have to look in the mirror and wonder whether it's them. Yeah. So all of like, that's one of the many things we love about your story is like, it's driving them crazy and they're bullies.

1:33:06They really are bullies. They're so nasty. Who'd have thought the poetry world would be the meanest, but they are, they're even meaner than the media. And that's saying something, which is one of the many reasons everybody needs to buy Invisible Current. You can go on Amazon right now. It's$15.99 by Joseph Massey,$15.99. And let me tell you what I think you should do with this book. You should get one for yourself and they should get a couple extra copies if you can afford it. Because I love, I did this with your last book and I'm going to do it with this one too. I love giving these as like the housewarming gift instead of a bottle of wine.

1:33:41People are sick of the bottles of wine. You know, it's like half the time they don't even notice that you've brought it. You know, it's like a nothing, but a book of poetry that has a story behind it and why it's meaningful. That's a great gift. Somebody's like, oh, you actually spent some time thinking about me. So that's why you should go, among many other reasons, and buy Invisible Current by Joseph Mazzi on Amazon right now for $15.99. So how do you print all the books? How do you self-publish? It's through Amazon's KDP program. When I was researching ways to self-publish, that one made the most sense because authors get the most royalties.

1:34:19so I went with them and the process is very simple and I've been lucky to find designers for the books because the books need to look good and I've tried to admit you know I've been very attentive to making them look good the work needs to look good on the page be framed properly and so well that's part of what's so appealing about your work is the aesthetic because in addition to writing beautiful poetry, you're an amazing photographer. And the poems I love in this book because they are sort of about the things that you photograph, which is nature. You find such beauty in a puddle or in a church window or in a leaf or a winter tree branches.

1:34:59So this, like a lot of your work, merges the two, but is specifically focused on the seasons. And the seasons are so meaningful. Like they really are, you know, they're metaphorical for the seasons of our lives. They're factual in terms of what we experience when we wake up in the mornings and spend our days. They can have such an effect on mood. And you capture all of that in your writings. I'll read some of them, but you capture the joy that you feel that I know you and I both feel in fall, and most of our listeners probably do too. Some of the melancholy of winter. You feel some melancholy in summer.

1:35:33I know you're not a fan. That's correct. Yeah. It's not my favorite season. But I really enjoy writing the I Hate summer poems. I think it's a genre I've created on my own. Why don't you like the summer? Well, it's too hot. And I'm not built for that. I melt. I turn into a large rash in the sun. I hate the beach, as you know. It's just a big garbage pile to me. Why anybody would want to sit in hot sand for hours at a time is very strange to me. And yeah, I don't like it. I can relate. As I say, I spend my summers at the beach, but I don't like sand or the sun or sharks or sitting. So it's, you know, it's an odd choice.

1:36:22Okay, let me do, I want to read from some. Here is, with your permission, here's Under Autumn. We both love autumn and winter. And that's, I mean, honestly, if you grew up in upstate New York, you love autumn and winter. It's like, you have to, because winter's 10 months long. And, you know, it's your season. It's like you're around the year season. Okay. Under Autumn. This again is from Invisible Current by Joseph Massey. You can buy it right now on Amazon. It reads in part as follows. beginning again in October's amber and orange. I got to put on my readers. My eyes are starting to go. Starting again.

1:36:58Beginning again in October's umber and orange hum to speak. There was a wall all summer that tied my tongue to the traffic's shadow. This morning, cold air clapped my mouth into a sound that spoke me awake. Bright beyond alarm, a red barn wall imprinted with the shadow of a maple. October's slant light slices clean. Dark portal. I stare into it as if I could think a thought with such force. I might find myself dropped on the other side. Morning's fog, dulled sun filters through a web of red leaves. I live within windows, think into their vision. A late season, late time, reignites the senses. Lord, don't let them close.

1:37:42Keep the signal clear, the song open. To take in what's left of October, the colors that trail behind and within me, as I walk beneath the flares sent up with a vividness that the senses stumble to apprehend. The red-singed yellows, I hear them more than see them, and somehow the sound lodges in my throat. How does sound come from color and pass through the body, making the flesh transparent to passing weather. Only in October, this negotiation between apparent loss and accumulation. Come on. Beautiful. Nobody writes it like you do. No one sees it like you do, Joseph. That's what I love about you.

1:38:21I read those words. I feel I'm there. I know exactly what you're looking at, and I know what you're feeling deep inside of you, and I share in it. That's the idea. I want to bring the reader into that experience of the senses, being immersed in this particular environment. And you, by the way, you read it beautifully. You should record the audio book, please. Talk to my agent. You're so sweet. Yes. Thank you. I'm sure it would not be the same as having you do it. You wrote the elegy for Charlie, which was so beautiful. And we read that at the time. I'm sorry to take it here, but I've got to show you this.

1:39:03This happened just recently. I think it happened on Saturday. It was a group of high schoolers. It's almost too despicable to repeat, but it's literally the opposite of your ode. They used audio from the moment Charlie was assassinated, the shooting itself for their prom outfit transition videos. I'm going to show it to you. Forgive me. Here it is.

1:39:35And then it shows them in their dresses. They got all sorts of props online for people from this who celebrated it. They loved it. They thought it was clever. I mean, truly, if your poems are beauty written down on the page. That is ugliness alive on the screen. It's the polar opposite of what you do. Yeah. And that's what's invading the culture. I mean, I knew there would be some disgusting things posted after Charlie Kirk was shot the day he was shot and then the days that followed. I did not actually, maybe I'm naive, I didn't expect quite that amount of horrific vitriol and the completely cavalier attitude towards death and not just any death but a death that was on display for the whole world in such a horrific way uh my nephew sent me the video when charlie kirk was shot i felt like i was gonna faint it was so horrible and i was watching your show when the news came out that that he had died and um that feeling that sickness in my stomach hasn't left and the anger really hasn't left and i wrote the poem to yeah to channel that but you know my hope is poetry can help people resensitize themselves to the world because what you just showed is just a horrible census a horrible way to live in such a desensitized way where death is something to be mocked and made fun of it's truly disgusting.

1:41:15That's what's happening to us. You know, I tweeted about this the other day. Like, I don't like scrolling and just you casually see an animal abuse video or a child abuse video or children beating the living hell out of one another. Just casually, as you're trying to catch up on the news, I'm not desensitized to it and I don't wish to be. You know, maybe you can handle that with a filter, not that I have been able to find. I don't think that should be possible. And And I do think if you get enough of those inputs into your life, you become desensitized. You think, like this woman, this young teenager does, that this is funny.

1:41:50It's okay. You can make fun of something like an assassination of a dear husband and father. And what's the antidote to stop that? But there needs to be positive inputs as well. You know, truly, this is why people should read genuinely Invisible Current. You need positive inputs or you become like them. That's right. But yeah, I mean, that is the role of art in our age, is to resensitize people, to bring them back into the world, into experiencing ordinary life as a sacred thing. And to just be in their own bodies and to experience their own breath, to take a break from the doom scrolling, which is this bizarre hypnosis.

1:42:37I was listening to some philosopher talk I don't remember her name but she made a point to say I don't want to become desensitized to images and that really stuck with me because I feel like we are becoming desensitized to images and these kids have grown up with being bombarded with horrible things online and we see the fruits of that and it's not good fruit we've had some distance from We didn't grow up with 24-7 internet, and I thank God for that. I probably, who knows where I would be if I had the internet in my life as a child. But it's incumbent. We were. We were outside all the time. That's right.

1:43:18Just like our parents always said, play outside. And now they're having a very different experience. The book is a little bit of outside brought to your coffee table or your bedside table or your child's coffee table or bedside table. Like your children should read this too. It's an easy read. It's not like, you know, impossible to understand or they're going to have to reread it four times and understand what Joseph's saying. It's an easy read in that you don't have to work for it. It just rolls over you. Like I say about the show, our goal is cool water over a hot brain. And that's what Invisible Current by Joseph Massey is too.

1:43:53Thank you for continuing to put these works of beauty and art out into the ether, even though they tried to stop you. Thank you, Megan. God bless you. You too. It's wonderful to see you. And wait, where can people check out the substack just so in case they want to read your dispatches? Just Google dispatches from the basement and you'll find it. And if you want, you can sign up and you can get an email from Joseph with his latest. And it's just a burst of positivity, serenity into your day, whether you're scrolling by on Twitter and you see his feed or you get your email from Joseph or you just go there to a substack or pick up his latest book.

1:44:30Please support his work. Invisible Current is the name of the latest. It's available right now on Amazon for$15.99 by Joseph Massey, M-A-S-S-E-Y, and help him rise up the charts as a statement to his bullies who tried to bully us all in their own disgusting way that we won't stay down and we won't let one of our soldiers remain down if you attack him either. Thank you. Thank you all for listening today. Thanks for supporting Joseph, and we will be back tomorrow with our Friday show. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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