The TRUTH About Foreign Influence Campaigns in America, on Social Media and Beyond, with Alex Bruesewitz | Ep. 1362

28:12outside reportedly. He was ranting. He was pacing. According to Candace, she heard what she thought was a gunshot. She was afraid he had shot himself. She later concluded he had not because he continued to hear she continued to hear him ranting and pacing through the house. They showed up. They found him wearing only a pair of shorts wearing and holding what appeared to be a beer being thrown to the ground by police after he agreed to come outside with a gun. There's videotape of part of this. Here it is. Came back out of his office, like, cocked his hand in, and went back to the side. And so then I saw him, I saw him, like, open the blinds in the front yard.

28:49And then he closed it, and then I heard what I thought was a good shot. To the ground, man. Jesus. I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. Put your hands behind me. Hey, we'll figure it all out, alright? I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. So he was, according to the wife, talking about shooting himself, that he drinks and suffers from some sort of PTSD. He was committed to a hospital under Florida's Baker Act after this. And so I feel for Brad Parscale. He's had he's had some troubles. And I understand that a lot of a lot of people have troubles. These are pretty extraordinary ones.

29:36Again, to reiterate that Candace took back her allegations of abuse, notwithstanding what the police reported after speaking with her on site. So Brad Parscale and I always got along. He went on to become a senior executive at Salem Media, which is the company that produces, I think, Hugh Hewitt's podcast. Who else did they do, Alex? Oh, Scott Jennings, right? His show. town hall with katie pavlich they they own that publication i believe red state so big in conservative media and amazingly like stunningly to me i have to say this is the same guy who now has taken 45 million dollars a year from israel in order to peddle the israeli interests into American politics.

30:26And if those conflict with the agenda of his former boss, Donald Trump, so be it. Yeah. So, um, yeah, I, I want to remark quickly on, on the incident that took place in 2020. Uh, I don't want to get in the mud or, or, or make certain personal remarks around him. I believe he, he went through some personal traumatic experiences during that time. And so the claims of PTSD, I do believe. He tragically lost his two children shortly after they were born. And so I can only imagine how difficult that was. And I don't want to excuse any of the behavior that he's been accused of. But I also do want to highlight that I genuinely believe he's become a Christian.

31:15He stopped drinking. And as a Christian, I do not hold his past allegations and accusations against him. However - Nor do I, Alex, and I've been defensive of Brad Parscale for 10 years. However, it is a piece of his story and it's relevant because he's had some serious troubles. And honestly, to give such a man$50 million almost to work on behalf of a foreign country is potentially a reckless move. And I think we're seeing the results of that right now in our politics. I really do. I think Brad Parscale, in my opinion, is now working to divide Americans from one another. when he should be working to unite us, as opposed to helping get the president elected and pursue his agenda the way he did in 2016 and tried to in 2020.

32:00He now is appears to be undermining the president's agenda with this influence campaign if it if it doesn't dovetail with what Israel wants. And we are divided from Israel right now. At the moment, we're, you know, picking this war back up with Iran. But Israel has been all over President Trump for the past month as he tries to put this war to bed. So in the same way that Brad Parscale and his influencer campaign wouldn't hesitate to try to destroy you or me or anyone who speaks up against Israel, we're going to get really clear on Brad Parscale's issues too, unabashedly and unafraid. Well, it certainly is your program.

32:39And so as you've mentioned, this is the largest FARA contract in history, this$50 million contract that has gone to Brad's firm, which is unique given the fact that he has never had prior lobbying experience. And again, he also doesn't have a relationship with President Trump. The Time Magazine article I found to be quite damning, and the Wall Street Journal backed up similar statements and ended up, so I think the Time Magazine piece said he got paid$1.5 million a month. The Wall Street Journal the next day said it's been actually closer to$45 million that he's been paid, which makes it the largest contract for one entity in FARA history.

33:23And I've been pretty critical of this contract. I have been probably for the past month because I have a lot of questions around it. If you read the initial draft contract on FARA's website between his firm, Clocktower X, and an organization out of Germany called Havis Media Group. It showcases a set of deliverables. And some of those deliverables include language that is reminiscent of the language that he puts in contracts for his influencer marketing campaigns, including the guaranteed of 50 million impressions, thousands and thousands of pieces of content being delivered each month. And I had a lot of questions and concerns around another part of language in there that said he's going to integrate narrative messaging into Salem media properties.

34:15And so I've been raising awareness about this. I was on Tucker Carlson's podcast, which I had a unique response from certain people online. And I've been raising awareness about this. I've been asking Brad, can you please provide some transparency around what you're actually doing with this money? and Brad has denied that he's been paid to undermine the administration's efforts on social media, specifically related to opposing the MOU. And he's denied it in the Time article. He denied it on social media. And actually last night he called me. I think he learned that I was coming on your program and he called me.

34:57And again, he denied it to me. We ended up speaking for a substantial period of time, and we discussed kind of the ins and outs of the contract. He said that after submitting that initial contract to the nation of Israel, he learned that he actually couldn't deliver those services. He said that he can't legally integrate messaging into Salem Properties. He said if he were to pay influencers through this Habes Media Group contract, he would need to disclose every single payment made. And he said that through this particular contract with the nation of Israel, he has not paid influencers. So I said, well, Brad, can you understand why people would have questions related to your draft contract because there's no other contract out.

35:56And he was obviously understanding of where I was coming from. And I said, Brad, can you please explain to me the services that you're providing? And he said, we are simply only doing SMS text messaging. And so there's certain texts that are going out to Americans on behalf of Israel where they were supposed to be combating anti-Semitism. but and i pushed back on brad on that i said brad well i received a text a couple of days ago from your entity that was basically trying to coach americans into supporting more of a prolonged conflict so how can how can you say that only your texts are your texts are only going to combat anti-Semitism.

36:53And we had a back and forth discussion for about an hour. He holds the position that he does not pay influencers through this contract. So the Time Magazine piece is totally wrong. So he should sue them. I look forward to watching his defamation lawsuit. Because the Time Magazine piece - No, no, no. If he's right, then the Time Magazine piece is wrong. It doesn't actually, it also highlights that Brad has been paid by, and firms of his have been paid by pro-Israel groups and pro-Israel influencers have been paid for pro-Israel content through Brad's firms, just not necessarily through this contract.

37:35And so Brad can't. So this is what we call splitting hairs. So I understand why people are confused. I'm also confused by this. There was one influencer in particular who was identified in the Time magazine piece. His name's Ayel Yacobi. And he was identified as one of the influencers who has been compensated by Brad's firm in the past for promoting Israel-related issues, according to the Time magazine piece. And so I think there's a lot of transparency questions and concerns that are still lingering. And just because I had a conversation with Brad last night doesn't mean I'm going to pull off of this.

38:25I'm very well aware that there is a heavily funded coordinated effort online to undermine efforts in the administration. this heavily funded coordinated effort. I've also been tracking for over a year because it's been used to attack voices on social media who were critical of the war. And, and I think that you are a target of this. Absolutely. I think Tucker was a target of this. Absolutely. And to be honest, I have strongly disagreed with a lot of the things that you have said and that Tucker has said, but I also don't think it's right to have these heavily funded, manipulated campaigns, you know, trying to discredit you or attack you on a regular basis.

39:18And so that's why I've, you know, I didn't speak out about it for the first year. And, you know, I'm sorry about that. But again, I disagree with a lot of what you've said, but I spoke out about it about a month ago after the vice president appeared on your program. And when the vice president came on your program, all of these influencers who I've been tracking as part of this coordinated effort all pushed the same talking points. How, oh, the vice president's great, but you can't talk to Meghan. This is a major mistake, da-da-da-da. And he kept talking over and over again. And then shortly after that, all of these same influencers started attacking the president's MOU.

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42:38The Prime Minister of Israel has explicitly said that, quote, our influencers are their greatest weapon. Yep. And there's no question that the Israeli government is depending on, quote, our influencers to change American sentiment. It's interesting that Brad Parscale called you because Brad Parscale has my number and we've been in touch via text and otherwise for years. And in fact, the last contact we had was in September, right after Charlie died, when he reached out to me. And this is right around, I believe, when he signed his deal with Israel to go do Israel's bidding in American politics.

43:25And he wanted to catch up. And it didn't happen. and shortly thereafter, it was September 16th, I aired on this program in the wake of Charlie's death the fact that because there were questions about whether Israel could possibly have had anything to do with Charlie's death. And I wasn't weighing in on that, but I was weighing in on something that was immediately being debated, which is whether Charlie was drifting from the pro-Israeli cause. And I did have information on that because Charlie and I had spoken on August 6th. So now we're September 16th. He's been killed six days earlier. And I played part of our interview in that show.

44:11And this is right after Brad had just reached out to me. And what happened? Some of those influencers immediately started attacking me. Suddenly, I was authorized simply because I wanted to set the record straight on where Charlie was. And I knew all of that, not from some secret gleaning of Charlie's mind, but because he was on camera with me saying it. And I felt I owed it to him to replay for the audience what he actually felt, because it was right there in his own words. And from that point forward, this same cabal has been literally trying to destroy me in this show, and they have failed.

44:57They have utterly failed. That is not a figment of your imagination. I want to make that clear. You have absolutely been the target of a well-coordinated online digital campaign, and that is not particularly fun. And I think that a lot of these people, they also don't have the president's best interests at mind or at heart. And I think a lot of their attacks on you have maybe even pushed you away from the president more, but those attacks aren't coming from our apparatus or our operation. Oh, no, I know that. There's been calls on me to disavow people like you or Tucker. And I told Tucker to his face where I disagree with him because I have personal relationships with people.

45:43If I have a personal relationship with someone, I'm not going to take to social media and call them out online. I said the same thing about Laura Loomer on Tucker's podcast, and then Laura Loomer decided to attack me, and I anticipate that she'll attack me over me appearing on you. And so I'm probably not going to say that again about Loomer and lesson learned. But I still like her. I think that she has a role to play in our movement. But I have that philosophy where if I know someone in person, I'm not going to attack them on social media. And so you have been the target of one of these attacks.

46:19Tucker's been the target of these attacks. And I want to echo that Charlie, I met Charlie when I was 17 growing up in rural Wisconsin. He was growing up in the Chicago suburbs. And I ended up starting a Turning Point USA chapter on my high school campus. And Charlie sent me a box of buttons that said big government sucks, and he sent me a bunch of mini-constitutions. And to be honest, I was a little too lazy to really dive deep in it, but it was really at the infancy of what Charlie was doing with Turning Point USA. And so I've known Charlie for a long time, and I've attended events with Charlie where the Prime Minister of Israel's son spoke at the Museum of the Bible in 2018 and 2019.

47:05Charlie used to be a major defender of the pro-Israel cause. And I wouldn't say that Charlie became anti-Israel, but I believe that Charlie had his finger on the pulse of the MAGA movement, perhaps better than anybody. And he really understood where young people were going, perhaps better than anybody. And he was picking up on the concerns that young people had with Israeli influence in our political system. and he was raising awareness about it. And I actually had dinner with Charlie four days before he was assassinated. And one of the topics of dinner actually happened to be around foreign influence.

47:48And we were actually talking with a Korean woman who was upset because America doesn't care about everyday Korean issues. And Charlie kind of rift. He's like, well, that's because Korea doesn't have a lobby. And, you know, I was like, oh, that's a fascinating point. And he's like, you know, Israel, for example, has a great and effective lobby. And Korea should potentially, if they're concerned about that, why don't you emulate that? And so, you know, Charlie understood the strength of the Israeli lobby. But he also understood that they were becoming a bit more unpopular with young people in our country for certain reasons.

48:33And I don't believe Charlie was anti-Semitic. I don't believe that Charlie had any hate in his heart for Israel, but he saw where it was going. I consider myself an ally of Israel. I've supported their country for as long as I've been in politics. And I still support their country today. I just don't support certain actions of their government. And one of the actions that I don't support is the attempts to influence American discourse online and through, you know, even text messaging. Americans. And so I shared that with Brad. I don't particularly like far contracts. I don't take any foreign money.

49:16I think that foreign money should be out of politics permanently. And I'm aware that Israel has been trying to run influencer campaigns on social media since at least June of 2025, because somebody connected to the Israeli government personally texted me, the president's social media guy, asking if I would help them do a social network strategy related to Iran. And I said, with all due respect, I can't get involved with this one because I don't do foreign work. And so they didn't hire me. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it was three months after that, that Brad Parscale signed his deal with the Israelis, giving him$45 million a year, according to the Wall Street Journal.

49:59Correct. Correct. But also around that time, a group called Project Esther came out and they were paying influencers North Words of$7 ,000 per post. No, no, no. I was universally mocked for saying that on this show, that this same group was out there mocking me at every turn saying I made that up out of whole cloth. You're telling me Project Esther was real. It's real. And I wouldn't be shocked if some form of it is still alive today. And that was not run through Brad's firm. So there's - Yeah, no, they're separate. That's separate. And so I would not be shocked if that program is still running in some capacity or other programs.

50:46The Wall Street Journal said that Israel has designated hundreds of millions of dollars to help shape American public opinion related to the war and related to improving their image in the United States with. And just to be clear, just so the audience understands when we were talking about American public opinion, if you are a conservative who is over the age of 50, we mean you. That's who we're talking about. They have lost everyone else. The last group that supports Israel in America are conservatives over 50. And the support among that group is waning, too. They've lost some. Now it's done.

51:30What is it? Maybe 7030 issue with that group. I'll have to go back and check the latest polls. But that's who they're now targeting. That you are the target. And so if you've received positive messages about Israel or, you know, attacking, it could be me, it could be Tucker, it could be any, whatever. There is a high likelihood that Israel, its influencers or its paid advocates are behind these attempts to manipulate your opinion because they can't lose you. They can't lose you. You're right. And I think that's I think that's terrible. I'm an ally of Israel. I want to see America have a great and strong relationship with Israel for many years to come.

52:09I don't want to see us having issues. I think America needs more allies, less allies. And as you mentioned earlier, in certain times, they don't behave like allies, which is unfortunate. But I actually spoke at the Jerusalem Post conference at the beginning of June with that same exact message. I said, you know, I'm appalled by the rise of anti-Semitic attacks. As an ally of Israel, you know, I'm troubled by the reports that Republicans under the age of 30 have really broken from the nation of Israel. And I actually said the reason why isn't because of podcasters like you, Megan, or Tucker. And yes, you guys can be quite critical and aggressive, but I don't think you guys are the reason necessarily that people are moving away.

52:59I think some of their biggest advocates in America do more harm for them than good. But I think the influencer operation that they have engaged in, where all of these people move as a unit and attack anyone who's remotely critical of the nation of Israel as anti-Semitic, has done them a tremendous disservice. I think mouthpieces like Mark Levin, who is not particularly an appealing salesperson to young men in America, when he opens his mouth as an advocate and champion of Israel, does he hurt the cause or help the cause? I think he hurts the cause. Same with people like Ted Cruz. I specifically referenced Ted Cruz in my speech at the Jerusalem Post Conference.

53:42I said when people like Ted Cruz do a podcast interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, and he says, quote for quote, the words, the term Christ is king is anti-Semitic. Is that going to make people more aligned with the cause of Israel or against it? Of course, against it. And so I think they have terrible spokespeople from Mark Levin to Ted Cruz to their ridiculous influencer network that is undoubtedly compensated in some capacity, whether it's from their country of Israel directly or through their allies in the United States. I think their entire PR strategy has been a total disaster.

54:21And they probably wish I was able to engage with them in some sort of PR campaign when they tried to hire me in June of 2025. But again, I don't do foreign work. And I'll just say, if I were to do foreign work, I would have done the exact opposite of what they've done. Yeah, I know it's unfortunate because, I mean, personally, I started getting it when I wouldn't defriend Tucker. I mean, it was a very strange thing. Like you say, you don't defriend your friends over politics. Same, same, never. um and and so i can say that you know if israel was pulling the strings behind the pylon that this show suffered it was because of our refusal to defriend somebody because this is all long before the iran war right long before so it's very strange and not to cut you and honestly very very dirty and disgusting it's like how can a foreign government try to insert itself in trying, because that was about Tucker, trying to ruin an American podcaster.

55:21And then I believe I was shrapnel around that as opposed to the direct target of the principal ire. But that would come my way too. And I didn't support the Iran war. I do want to say this. In the Time magazine piece, a senior Israeli official told Time, quote, we're pissed at Brad Parscale. He was supposed to make things better. We've paid him lots of money, but what did he do with it? things have only gotten worse to the point that you just made, that this campaign, while it was very annoying, is very annoying, was utterly ineffective. Yeah, that's a ringing endorsement of the services rendered, and perhaps they will move in a different direction now that the American people are kind of wise to what's taking place, or perhaps not.

56:09But Brad is a drop in the bucket to the greater Israel influence operation that takes place every year and every day in America. And you're exactly right. The campaign online started around when you probably played that Charlie Kirk clip and also your refusal to denounce Tucker. And they did the same thing on the American vice president. They demanded that the vice president distance himself from Tucker Carlson, even though they're completely separate human beings. And they also targeted Tucker's son. They demanded that Buckley be fired from the White House. And to President Trump's credit, despite Tucker being one of the president's most vocal critics and oftentimes saying things that were very lowbrow, the president never fired Tucker's son.

57:09Buckley left the White House on his own court. I don't think the president would ever do that. And so. I would never think the president would do that. Right. Because the president isn't weak. He isn't thin skinned. And sometimes he might send a message on true social targeting some folks and they might not like it. But it's part of the process and it's part of the game. It's part of politics isn't beanbag. You know, it's I get it that you can't obsess over President Trump's tweets. So but I do want to say this. Wait, let me just tell you one thing that we pulled it via Gallup in February. Among adults age 55 and older, 49 % sympathize more with the Israelis, 31 % with the Palestinians.

57:51The first time since 2005 that less than half of older Americans have said their sympathies are with the Israelis. The 18-point lead for the Israelis also represents the narrowest gap in sympathies ever recorded for this age group. So that's across all age 55 and older. 49 % sympathize with the Israeli, 31 % with the Palestinians. And then the numbers are a little better for the Israelis when you zero in on older conservatives. Go ahead. Part of Israel's PR strategy, it seems, is that if you say those poll numbers out loud, they'll say that you're paid for by Qatar. And I find actually one of the most entertaining things I found about kind of this influencer Israel paid operation is they've all been freaking out the last couple of days.

58:40Like, how dare you accuse us of being compensated by Israel when there's substantially more evidence of paid for Israeli influence operations online when they've spent the last two years calling everybody who's been remotely critical of Israel as a paid operative of Qatar? It's very funny to me. I'll see that about myself sometimes too. Like I've literally never taken a dollar from any foreign entity at all. Nothing, not$1 of advertising in the show. And the only one who ever sought to buy into the show was on my tour. And those were Israeli representatives, which is fine that they're allowed to try.

59:19We said no. But like, I don't know anybody in Qatar. I don't take foreign money. I have my genuinely held opinions. We barely even do a ton of foreign policy on this show. It's such a weird knee jerk response to be like you're bought and paid for by foreign influence. Go ahead. Who, who exactly? Who paid me in what form? Like, honestly, if I had the time, I'd be suing all of these losers. And I'll tell you what, it's just a matter of time before somebody sues Brad Parscale and or Yal Jacoby and starts getting to the bottom of exactly who's paying whom for what, what exactly those contracts allow, require, or have produced.

1:00:04I mean, this is so easy, like one round of discovery in a litigation, and we will know it all. So they really better tread carefully because a lot of these tweets are defamatory, absolute falsehoods meant to disparage you. And sooner or later, they're going to cross the wrong person. And you mark my words, There will be a litigation and we will see it all. Perhaps, and maybe that's ultimately what is needed to be done for the sake of transparency. I encourage Brad to update the American people and be as transparent as possible with the deliverables that he's offering for this contract, because the only contract that is out there is the contract that I've repeatedly pointed to that shows the language about integration into Salem Media properties.

1:00:58And when I say when I highlight that, that's not me accusing everyone at Salem of being compensated. And I think there's great people at Salem. I think people like Larry O 'Connor is fantastic and he's been a great supporter of the president, you know. Oh, and O 'Connor, too. Yeah. You know, Larry Elder has been quite critical of the president's MOU, which I found that to be a little bit surprising. But I'm not accusing everyone of Salem Media of being compensated. But a lot of Salem media personalities, including Josh Hammer, who has a podcast. I can't imagine he makes a lot of money doing that podcast because he gets like 2000.

1:01:39It's literally he gets like hundreds of listeners. He has absolutely no following. There's a lot of these full time content creators who who to target you and target the vice president who they do it, they post all day, every day. It's their full-time job. And to be honest, it's also my full-time job. I have a pretty cool full-time job. I get paid to tweet and I get paid to help run Twitter accounts that are supportive of the president of the United States. If I told my mom 12 years ago that, mom, I'm going to become a professional tweeter for a living, she would have probably told me, Alex, you're an idiot, you're not doing that.

1:02:17But I ended up kind of paving away. And that's how you saw it. That that's that is how you saw it. I have to say, like, those of us who have been at the center of this campaign and who cares what's happening to me? It's really more about Trump and the vice president now because this operation has turned on them. Anybody who's been at the center of this storm has felt it. And I I acknowledge it publicly because I know my audience sees it when they go to to comment on a social media post of ours. And then they see all these nasty, you know, the same comments from accounts that have two followers.

1:02:53You know, it's so obvious, but it's unpleasant. They don't, I'm sure they're like, what's this about? So I want them to know what's being done, that this is a calculated effort. But it's, when you turn, you know, on the government, it's a different story. When you try to undermine the president's agenda, it's a different story. But you saw it, even though it wasn't happening to you because you were in this business. And so I would say, from my perspective, it was very validating to see somebody not at the center of this dorm say, wait, I see the pattern. Not, not only am I in this business, I invented this business.

1:03:26I was the, you know, this, the game of being a professional tweeter was invented by people like Charlie Kirk and myself 11 years ago. And so, you know, the, the coordinated influencer operations are quite easy for us to spot. And also a lot of these influencers who I know have been compensated for other projects that they've never disclosed, and they act like it's the biggest scandal in the world to accuse them of getting paid for posts. I mean, it's so ridiculous to me. And so I think, to be honest, I think that this beast has kind of gotten out of hand. the influencer marketing efforts in politics have totally gotten out of hand.

1:04:13Did you know in politics, it's the only industry in America that you don't have to disclose if you were paid for a post-in? If you get paid to promote a bikini, you have to say paid ad. If you get paid to promote gambling markets, it says paid partnership. If you get paid to tank or attempt to tank a specific piece of congressional legislation, you don't have to say anything. Thank you. And when it's happened, there used to be, Megan, there used to be an organic element of this. And my focus was on identifying values aligned political candidates and partnering them with social media influencers who believe the same things that they believe in.

1:05:00And so if you look at my FEC reports, which I try to be as transparent as possible about what clients I work with, it's no secret that I get paid to support President Donald J. Trump online. I support the president regardless and ultimately got hired by his team to help run social media efforts. So that's not a secret. But we work with a lot of Republican candidates and politicians across the country to help amplify their voices on social media. That has been my business since day one. That's not a secret. However, this industry has been totally hijacked by special interest groups who use them to shill against certain policies of the administration or certain congressional legislation.

1:05:55And also by foreign entities and foreign nations. And so I think it's been there used to be this organic element to to the right wing social media sphere. And also, I want to just say it's not only a right wing problem. The left wing also has their cabal of influencers, but their cabal of influencers are subsidized in large part by some of their donors. You know, there's a organization on the left called Midas Touch. And I actually think that they do a good job for the left at social media content. But Alex Soros wrote them a substantial check,$55 million check into Midas Touch. Wow. And so the left's online army.

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1:11:51All right, I'll be hitting you up for your discount code after the interview. you, but good for you. I'm not taking money from outsiders. But a lot of these content creators kind of circle back to the present does this weave. So we're weaving back to what I was talking about a couple of minutes ago. There's a lot of these content creators who make content full time all day, every day, and they get no reach. And I think a great example of this is this kid, Misfit Patriot. I don't even know if he's a kid. I think he's probably 20 years older than I am, but Misfit Patriot, all he does every day is he sits in his basement and he makes a podcast on Rumble like it's a thousand viewers.

1:12:35And oftentimes his commentary focuses around Israel or focuses around anti-you or anti-Tucker. I'm very curious how this guy makes a living because he's certainly not making it off of his Rumble viewership. And he clearly is subsidized in some way, shape, or form because he tweets so often. He yelled, Jacoby, another one. There's no way that this guy tweets 100 times a day if he has a full-time job. Maybe he has a job somewhere. Does he have somebody else running as a guy? So there's all of these people who almost get no reach, but they have the ability to tweet all day every day so in in in my business in my in my experience i assume that there's someone subsidizing in some way shape or form that content and so what i'm going to be doing i think this is kind of the final straw for me this israeli operation.

1:13:42I've been actually working with Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna around cracking down on transparency disclosures related to foreign influence. But I think we need it more broadly. I think that there needs to be influencer disclosures for all types of online campaigns. I don't think that politics should be, you know, I don't think that the political industry should have a different set of rules than people who promote bikinis or gambling or sports betting or cozy earth, right? I think that if you are compensated for posts related to politics, there should absolutely be disclosure laws required. And so I'll be working with Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna and potentially the CFTC on strengthening those disclosure laws.

1:14:30I think that I think that to have the Republican Party would be better served if Republican influencers went back to more of an organic feel rather than being compensated and subsidized by special interest groups and potentially foreign countries. And so what you're seeing online all day, every day is not particularly organic. And I think that needs to change. you um you mentioned uh something that sparked it in my mind but you're you are now in the crosshairs because representative randy fine who's to say he's pro-israel would be the understatement of the year seems to be his main concern kind of interesting for the voters of florida but he is now calling for reportedly calling for Trump to fire you because you've been calling attention to this issue.

1:15:30Then Mark Levin just weighed in saying he agreed with that, that it was actually kind of interesting because he denied it. Well, he sort of denied it. Randy fine when confronted by somebody said, oh, I don't I don't even know about that publication. I don't know anything about that publication. He didn't say I don't want Alex Bruzewicz fired, which is what if you said to me, MK, are you lobbying the administration to have Alex Bruzewicz fired? I'd say, no, absolutely not. What do you mean? I've never lobbied you for them to fire anybody. He was like, well, was it wasn't even on the record, whatever that was, whatever was published in that publication I've never heard of was not even on the record.

1:16:10OK, that's that's not what a truth teller sounds like. And then we had Mark Levin weigh in and say, Randy Fine's right. There's a lot of low life bottom feeders who need to be kicked out of the conservative movement in advance of the midterms. So, you know, lending credibility to the report, which Randy Fine had sort of tried to deny. Right. So now they want you fired from the Trump administration for the work that you do because of this issue. This is so galling. Yet another one, Yet another legitimate conservative fighter who's been critical to the efforts of this administration to win, to get ahead.

1:16:49And honestly, I would put Tucker in that same boat. I mean, to some extent, I'm there. Many of these others, they want you gone because you're calling attention. And you're an Israel supporter. And I have been an Israel supporter even in my whole year of, you know, growing apart from them. I've said repeatedly that overall, I support them. They want you fired because of this issue. So do you think Trump will listen? You know, I'd be absolutely shocked. I was, you know, this actually, so Randy Fine is denying it. But this all started because Tucker Carlson referred to him with some negative comments when I appeared on Tucker's show.

1:17:34And I simply said that I do not agree with statements that Randy Fine has made. I said that he has tweeted some ugly things, which he absolutely has, and that he does not speak for the administration and he does not share his beliefs. And he was outraged by that. He took to X. He called me a Jew hater. And and I also want to say that I actually defended Randy in that interview. I said that he has a better personality than Ted Cruz. And for whatever reason, he didn't say thank you, Alex, for saying I have a better personality than Ted Cruz. he said that Alex wasn't softened. It's so vile. What a vile thing to say.

1:18:21Right. I said I defended the guy and Ted Cruz or Tucker was shocked that I said, I think he has a better personality than Ted Cruz. And I said, I genuinely believe that to this day, even with the fact that he's trying to get me fired, I believe that Randy has a better personality. But for whatever reason, that wasn't good enough for him. And so he started texting me things after he tweeted that I was a Jew hater. And he started referring to the president in past texts as my former boss. And I was like, that's interesting. You know, good luck with all of that, Randy. But he absolutely was calling the White House.

1:18:53He absolutely was trying to get me fired. And he's been doing that for almost two weeks. But last week I was in the Oval Office with the president having a nice conversation. And I think it's disgusting that if he's because he has a disagreement with something I said on social media that he's threatening to tank the Republican agenda. And I've heard from dozens and dozens of Congress members saying, Alex, we're with you, you know, just keep hold the line. Randy's being ridiculous, which which he absolutely is. He claims to be a defender of our values and the Trump agenda. But because he doesn't like me, he's threatening to tank every House rule.

1:19:31He's threatening to vote against the Save America. I think that's very inappropriate. I don't think I think he's the report. Just so the audience knows what we're talking about. There's a publication called Notice, and they reported that not only does he want you fired, but they reported that he's told the White House officials that he plans to vote against every rule that comes across the House floor until Trump removes you. And he was the sole Republican to vote against the rule, laying out how the House will proceed on certain bills this week. And then they referred to how this started. TMZ confronted Representative Fine about this notice report about you.

1:20:09And here's what he said. You're strong arming Trump. No, you are. It sounds like you're saying I'm not voting for Save America or for anything until Alex Brunowitz is out of the Oval Office. He's one of Trump's top advisers. Well, that's obviously not true. I voted for the Save America Act yesterday. Did you see me quoted in the report? No. Look, I have real concerns about anti-Semitic adjacent people inside our party. Are you going to be holding out on voting for things that President Trump would ideally want until Alex Brunowitz is out of the Oval Office or stops advising Trump? I have never voted against a priority of the president, and I don't plan to start.

1:20:55There it is. Good times. I'm having to be honest, I'm having a lot of fun with this. And I also love having TMZ in Washington, D.C. I think they are a absolute value add to political discourse. They're great. And Jacob, other than not knowing how to pronounce your last name, but it is. It's a tricky last name. They totally butchered my last name and not once, but twice. I forgive them. I wish Randy would just be honest with it. He absolutely has been trying to get me fired thus far to. Right. Why hide from it? Yeah, why hide from it? That's exactly it. I mean, look, I don't hate Randy Fine. I disagree with what he says, and I would rather have somebody like Randy Fine in that seat.

1:21:39It's a deep Republican seat than a Democrat. But I think he really needs to become more of someone that wants to help the Republican Party. And some of the statements that he says on social media certainly doesn't do that, especially it pushes people away. President Trump had a historic coalition in 2024. President Trump won Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan. He won Jews, a historic percentage of Jews in New York. We had young people. We had crypto bros. We had a historic gain, actually, with young women that nobody wants to talk about. We had a historic coalition that was put together. And I don't believe when Randy Fine makes certain comments about Muslim Americans that it is helpful to keeping our coalition together, especially in states like Michigan.

1:22:28And so what he says is not a representative of what the president believes. And so I do disagree with a lot of what Randy says, but that does not mean I hate him. It does not mean I'm a Jew hater. And I think it's very inappropriate. That won't save you. Sorry to tell you, having been at this for a year, it won't save you. I loved Ben Shapiro. I loved him as a friend. I really considered him a dear friend. And the crew that makes Israel like the North Star, they don't give a shit. If you say nice things about them, if you have genuinely kind and warm emotions toward them, if you defend them when others attack them, if you try to broker peace between them and their adversaries, they don't care.

1:23:18They will crap on you just as soon as look at you if they think there's daylight between you and Israel, or if you're willing even just to be critical at times of Israel. That ship has sailed for you now, Alex. I'm sorry to break it to you. That's okay. I've grown up in this space. I've been in the Twitter wars, if you will, since I was 18. So I also grew up playing video games. Video game culture has helped me tremendously for politics. People ask me, like, what does that mean? Well, I'll give you a little secret. You know, when Alex was 15 and 16 years old, I would sit in my basement playing video games with my friends.

1:23:56And part of video game culture is when you're being competitive, you think of the most heinous things to say to one another, and you talk crap to each other for about eight hours every day after school. And then mom tells you to get off of Xbox and you go to sleep. But you spend eight hours talking crap to each other. And then when you're done playing, you say, amazing time, great game. You know, we'll be on again tomorrow. And so for me on X, I have that same exact mindset. When I log on X, it's kind of like a video game for me. When people say nasty things to me in comments, I understand that it's part of the game.

1:24:35And I used to be much nastier personally on social media. That was kind of ultimately what ended up getting me on the president's radar. I was very good at getting under the president's adversary skins. People like Adam Kinzinger. I would make fun of Adam Kinzinger's stature and potential homosexuality. But I don't do things like that anymore because I'm a lot more professional. but um you know i i love the game i love the the game of being a troll on social media and so when i get trolled in a good faith troll i appreciate it i'm less i'm less um i'm less of a fan of the organized coordinated heavily funded manipulated trolling than i am of a good faith especially from a foreign country especially for a foreign from the foreign exactly i mean i do want to There's a couple of things I want to get to.

1:25:25This is Netanyahu. And this is Bibi Netanyahu explicitly on record in September, September 27th, 2025, at the Social Media Summit in New York City, Sop4. How do we fight back our influencers? I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance, to that community. They're very important. And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools of battle. You know, the weapons change over time. And the most important purchase that is going on right now is... Classwork. TikTok. TikTok. Number one. Number one. And I hope it goes through because it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the other one that's most important?

1:26:13X. X. Successful. Very good. And, you know, so we have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. we should talk to him now if we can get those two things we get a lot and i could go on on other things but that's not the point right now we have to fight the fight that's september 2025 and that is reportedly when brad parscale signed this deal with israel which time magazine reports as follows they say trump's aides expected his memorandum of understanding to be celebrated by his supporters instead online influencers in trump's mega movement were excoriating it on social media. Many of the posts appeared almost simultaneously with similarities in language and tone.

1:26:58Tracing tweets by prominent members of the online right, the official came to believe there was an unlikely figure at the center of all this criticism, and that's Brad Parscale. Last September, the global ad agency Havas hired Parscale's firm, Clocktower X, to conduct a digital campaign on behalf of the state of Israel, according to the Foreign Agents Registration Act filings reviewed by Time. Under that agreement, Pascal's operation would produce 100 original pieces of content each month with at least 80 % aimed at Gen Z audiences across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and podcasts. In the services agreement draft, you spoke to this earlier, he also pledged to amplify the campaign across social media and through integration of narratives into Salem Media.

1:27:41He tells you that he wasn't able to do that at Salem and align distribution channels. Pascal vowed the effort would produce at least 50 million digital impressions per month, as well as influence how AI tools such as OpenAI's ChatGPT and Claude and so on would characterize Israel in the war. Publicly, the campaign was framed as an effort to combat rising anti-Semitism online. An Israeli foreign ministry official familiar with the arrangement says there was another strategic aim, preventing young conservatives from turning against Israel, how the messaging operation works. They report three people familiar, describe an operation run through a network of interconnected firms overseen by Pascal or other firms he owns or created, such as Campaign Nucleus and Influensible, in which he now has a minority stake through private group chats.

1:28:30They say conservative influencers receive suggested language for posts on social media sites, such as X, Instagram, and TikTok. They were then compensated based on the impressions and engagement their content generated. It remains unclear how much Pascal's office outfits paid creators as part of the Israel campaign. So, I mean, whatever he told you, and I'll read his statement as we reached out to him and this Yael Yacobi, literally nobody knows who you are, Yael. But in any event, we reached out for a statement and they may be denying it, but I mean, this is explicit. He denied it strongly to me, but I think he has a lot of, I think he needs to answer a lot of questions, not just to me, but to the American people.

1:29:16I look forward to his lawsuit. If somebody printed this about me, that I actually was unleashing a foreign countries influence campaign in this, I would sue their asses so fast. It would make your head spin so fast. And honestly, like if Brad Parscale, Al, if what they wrote about you is untrue, you should sue Time Magazine right now. We will cover it fully and you can come on this show and you can tell us all about how they disparaged you. Again, he knew you were coming on this program last night. He knows me. He's got my text number. He didn't call me. Why do you think that is, Alex? I think why do you think that you think it has anything to do with my legal background or my intolerance for fucking bullshit?

1:29:59Well, I actually encouraged him to go on your program. And I think you're actually the one who made Brad Parscale famous in the first in the first place. So ultimately, Megan, if he is in fact doing that, perhaps you're the reason why that there's an Israel influencer campaign that's taking place in America. No. And so all roads lead back to Megan. But look, I have a lot of. No, let's hope that's not true. I'm kidding. But I have a lot of concerns and questions still around what Brad is doing specifically with that money. And I don't think that the reporter at Time magazine would have lied. Eric Cordalessa, I think he's a left leaning guy, but I also don't think he's a dishonest person necessarily.

1:30:42necessarily. He's interviewed the president for multiple cover stories, and he seems to be well sourced in the administration. And he spoke to senior U.S. intelligence officials for that piece as well. So I'm not on here saying that I think Brad Parscale is innocent and doing anything wrong. I'm just repeating that. He denied it to me. He said that he's focusing on text messages. But you played the Bibi clip earlier. It is evident that Bibi acted on those comments and those remarks, that the battlefield is now on X and on TikTok. There has been a major influx of coordinated pro-Israel content by American content creators.

1:31:28Who's paying them? That is the great mystery. But it's absolutely happening. And so I think it's important to to at least call out that this paid operations taking place. I also want to, for the record, state that Israel is not the only country doing this. A lot of countries participate in these types of campaigns and activities. I'm against them all. And I call them all out. It's just the numbers. I saw just correct me if I'm wrong, Alex. But our information is it's just the the amount like there's there was one. Gosh, I pulled it here. I have so much information on this, so I'm just swimming in a sea of info.

1:32:06There was one that's paying another company. I always do. 60 grand a month, which is a pretty good nut, but it pales in comparison to what the Israelis are paying. Hold on a second. I'm going to find it. Page six, standby. Lots of info. Here it is. Yeah, it's that the Israeli government. No, no, sorry. Saudi Arabia pays Ballard, which is another group, one of the most connected firms in Trump's Washington, 60 ,000 bucks a month. So that's 60 grand. The Wall Street Journal reported that as it was reporting that Brad Parscale got$40 million in lobbying from the Israelis. Yeah, that Saudi Arabia pays one of the most connected firms in Washington, 60 grand a month, which, I mean, Brad Parscale is getting millions, millions a month.

1:33:02It just pales. It's no doubt. Brad's contract with Israel is a record-setting contract. It is the largest FAR contract for one entity in history, almost by a few multiples. So it's quite substantial. It's quite large. And there's great mystery around specifically how he's allocating that cash. What he told me was it's strictly on text messages. I've actually encouraged him to come on your program and have a conversation with you about it. Maybe he will. Probably he won't. But I told him he should have a conversation with you and at least open up to the American people. But he should, because unlike him, I have always been very good to Brad Parscale.

1:33:46I truly have always been very good to him. And I've been an admirer of his. but there is no question that he is meddling now in American elections on behalf of Israel. He's disclosed it. It's undoubtable. I mean, it's all there black and white in writing from him. And perhaps he's behind all the influencers targeting Tucker, J.D. Vance, the Trump administration on this MOU, not to mention yours truly. I guess there's a chance he's not, But it's all certainly very coincidental that Netanyahu made his intentions clear. They reached out to you. You rejected them. Brad gets hired that very same month of September.

1:34:28That's the same month that some of these folks started attacking me for playing those Charlie soundbites. It's never let up thereafter. And this same network that that comments universally in the same words on any issue that touches Israel is the same group of people that's been ripping all those individuals I just named. Here's J.D. Vance with a little bit more on Joe Rogan in SOT7. And like, I should be clear, you know, like, I don't actually mind. I don't mind that the, you know, let's say certain elements of the Israeli government want to criticize the deal or have disagreements about the deal.

1:35:14I don't even mind an effort to try to influence, you know, foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel does it, other countries do it. It's just sort of the nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually when Americans allow, meaning American leadership, allows that influence to affect their judgment and to affect what they are advocating for. That's what really bothers me. People are always going to try to influence the United States of America, whether they're allies of ours or whether they're enemies of ours. But again, when I open up the pages of Time magazine and I see that there's a literal foreign influence campaign being funded to tank the very deal that I was pursuing, and oh, by the way, many of the people who were receiving that money were actually attacking me in completely dishonest ways.

1:36:05You know, my response to that is, well, go to hell. I'm going to do what I have to do for the American people. I represent Americans first. And that's the way that I've tried to do this job. Right on. I mean, he couldn't said it better myself. Your thoughts on that? I think the vice president is an incredibly effective messenger. I think he's spot on with his comments related to that. I think it's quite troubling if politicians are changing the way that they vote or their beliefs based on what they see on social media because of how manipulated social media has become. And I've actually had meetings with the Republican Study Committee and other large organizations in Congress telling them to be very careful about overreacting to pressure campaigns online.

1:37:01If you see certain influencers tweeting about certain issues, you can assume that there's funding behind it. If a random influencer who has never tweeted about, say, a farm bill before is very learned in the ins and outs of a text related to a farm bill, you can probably assume that that is coming from a place that is inorganic. And so I think that a lot of these social media campaigns have been successful in the past. I'm sure foreign countries have been successful in the past at using these types of tactics. But I'm raising awareness about it now because I think it's gone too far. And we cannot allow people, specifically people in power, to be swayed by manipulated talking points on social media.

1:37:55I don't want to see it change the way people vote. I don't want to see it change the way people talk about issues. because there's a lot of powerful people who are very focused on what's happening on X, and it's quite easy to manipulate public perception on that platform. And so I'm very grateful that the vice president raised awareness about it on the biggest podcast in the world, and I think it was a very important discussion. I think there'll be continuing discussions around these types of influence campaigns over the course of the next couple of months. Me too. You mark my words. There will be a lawsuit at some point by someone and all of it will come out.

1:38:41We'll know all of it. They can't keep it a secret. It's just there's too many ways of tracing it. You get these people under oath at a deposition and it's a totally different ball game. And that'll be great because we should know. We should absolutely know who's engaging in this campaign of harassment, defamation, and destruction, attempted destruction of including of the vice president of the United States in particular, but the president himself has come under this, not to mention others. So Alex, I think you're doing the Lord's work. And I've been a fan long before you were speaking out about this, as you know.

1:39:19And I really appreciate your friendship with Charlie and some of the stories you've told me behind the scenes. seems like you two were close and shared a lot as you were up and coming with no followers and built both of your empires brick by brick. I admire you. All the best. Likewise. Take care. Okay. A couple of things he had to run because he's actually got some important meetings today, but it's actually interesting what he was saying about Epstein and Israel. The followers of this show know it's only our detractors who like to pretend that I've been some knee jerk, like backer of the president.

1:39:52I don't mean Alex. I mean like people online who are like, she, she betrayed Trump. It's like, I'm sorry to tell you, but I've challenged Trump or been on the opposite side or wrong side of Trump many, many times over the past 10, 11 years. Just ask him, just Google it. You know, I've, I'm just not in the tank for anybody. And if you listen to the show, you know, that that's, that doesn't come as news to you. He's been mad at me many, many times, including since we launched this program. He wasn't talking to me for the first couple of years. Then we kind of made up at a Charlie Kirk event. Then I interviewed him.

1:40:28He got mad because I gave him a hard time, even though I'd been totally defensive of Trump on the law affair. I did give him a hard time for once he got the subpoena, not turning over those documents, some of them at Mar-a-Lago. Then he wouldn't speak to me again. Then we got sort of back in good graces. It's the nature of my job. You know, I am a journalist. That is my first and best and highest calling. And I do commentary as well, political commentary, as you know. And all of that can be annoying to a sitting politician because I'm not a political operative. You know, I was watching Hannity last night after the president's remarks.

1:41:04He is a political operative. Hannity is there to persuade you to back Trump, period. Okay, I get it. People, I think, know that. They don't think he's, you know, a straight news journalist like a Brett Baier. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with doing that. It's just not my job. It's not the business I am in. So we're going to cross wires every once in a while, whether it's President Trump, President Vance, President Rubio, President Biden, President Obama. I'm here for the truth. That's what I'm here for. And when I veer into opinion, I'm going to tell you what my actual opinion is, even if it upsets Republicans or people in the administration.

1:41:50My audience knows this. Okay. I want to read to you Brad Parscale's statements because we did reach out to him. And here's what he said to our show. um okay well here's what he said in the time magazine right i think this is in the time magazine piece um he says quote claims that i attacked the memorandum of understanding or the administration are false i welcome professional journalists who examine the facts instead of drawing conclusions from speculation or manufactured connections everything i created and did is publicly disclosed through the FARA, Foreign Agent Registration Act, process. There isn't a single shred of evidence that I acted against the administration.

1:42:38There isn't a shred of evidence that I did it. The effort began nearly three years ago, this effort, because I saw a rise in Jewish hatred, not because of any government agenda. My goal has always been to strengthen relationships, not damage them. um okay i mean he only anchored under the foreign agent registration act last year so i'm not sure what he's admitting to doing three years ago but that that's that's not necessarily a great admission um he also sent us a post by the israeli foreign ministry on x uh that reads as follows following time magazine's defamatory article regarding israel's digital public diplomacy the israeli minister of foreign affairs wishes to clarify the following points All of our activities are transparent and are conducted in strict compliance with U.S.

1:43:24law. We hide nothing and we obfuscate nothing. We certainly do not interfere in any U.S. foreign or domestic policy. That is very, I mean, that's literally laughable. We certainly do not interfere in any U.S. foreign or domestic policy. I mean, we know we know that Lindsey Graham was meeting with the Israelis and coordinating on how to convince Trump to get into this war. Lindsey Graham admitted that like what this is. These are what we call lies. But OK, back to them. the ministry lawfully contracted with an experienced digital agency to combat the dissemination of hatred against Jews and Israel and to strengthen support for the strategic alliance between the U.S.

1:44:10and Israel. Claims to the contrary, like those raised in Time magazine, are malicious attempts to harm Israel's good name. Oh, well, then I look forward to your lawsuit. Are you too Israel too? No, they sometimes threaten to do this, but you can't, you can't defame a country. That's not a thing. So there you have it. Parscale also denied that any Salem hosts have been paid by Israel for their opinions. We already covered that. This is to Time Magazine. He said, my contract with Israel does not influence Salem hosts or independent influencers. And then he also said, the claim that I'm coordinated in an effort to prolong the war is completely false.

1:44:46The only people manufacturing a conflict between Trump, Israel, and me are anonymous officials using background quotes to make me the boogeyman. Great. Well, you wait because that influence operation and all those sad little influencers will be outed because there are things like tax returns and so on, all of which is discoverable. and you know it's it's basically just gonna take them crossing the wrong person one too many times you know for that person to do something about this to actually just fight back there's uh this guy y 'all yacobi who we mentioned a few times i have no idea who this is but he's apparently one of these alleged influencers and here's what he writes uh we reached out the story was planted by bruisowitz the time magazine one to undermine legitimate criticism of the mou which quite literally failed because iran is a fundamentalist regime that is actively trying to murder our president vice president and the rest of the cabinet as i've told alex repeatedly i've never received a dime from the israeli american or any government government okay nor was i paid to ask basic questions about the mou on the other hand alex has a long history of not disclosing paid posts and receiving huge sums of money from corporate PACs.

1:46:15But Alex doesn't dispute that. Alex is taking issue with the receipt of foreign money funding these campaigns. That's what he's objecting to. You heard him own that he's done that and that he's disclosed that stuff in his returns. This is an example of the kind of dishonest squirreliness you would expect from these influencers. I have never received a dime from the Israeli, American or any government, nor was I paid to ask basic questions about the MOU. Okay. What Time reports is that they, you heard it, that they're in these private chat groups with Parscale or his groups and that the messaging is then suggested.

1:46:59And if they want to tweet that and can generate a certain, if you read the whole Time Magazine piece, it lays it out, a certain number of likes or supporting comments, et cetera, they get paid more. So it's not sure. It's not getting paid to ask basic questions about the MOU. I'm sure the chat group said something like, the MOU fucking sucks. Go get him. You're not asking basic questions. And you could definitely say, honestly, that that is not a dime from the Israeli or American government. Right. It's a dime from Brad Parscale, who wouldn't have said dime if he hadn't received his 45 million from Israel.

1:47:41I mean, like, we're not idiots. It's whatever. Okay. Okay, so I bring all of this to you so that you'll know when you see the next attack on J.D. Vance, because that's really who this is about. They don't want him becoming the Republican nominee. You will understand that he is at the apex of this group of people who have been attacked now for the better part of a year. And I believe a lot of the attacks against Tucker and to some extent yours truly are because of our relationship with J.D. Vance. that the support, our support for him has to be undermined because now we're alleged anti-Semites and they'll be casting JD Vance as an anti-Semite in order to keep him from capturing the Republican nomination, trying to hobble him as he heads into midterm season, which brings on 2028.

1:48:38like all of this to some large extent is about him and uh look every all of us are in this business and it's disgusting toxic awful dishonest so we got to take our slings and arrows but we don't have to take it silently there's nothing wrong with pointing out to you what's happening so you know as well and we help create a more sophisticated consumer who is better able to fight back even mentally or emotionally on your own part against these operations? How dare they try to manipulate you with disinformation? How dare they try to manipulate their fellow Americans with propaganda being pushed by a foreign government?

1:49:19Again, I objected to it when it was the Palestinians. I object to it when it's the Israelis. I object to it when it's the Chinese. they can all go to hell as our vice president so aptly put. Okay. So a little food for thought as we head into the weekend, looking forward to receiving your comments from my actual audience at Megan at Megan Kelly.com. That's how you can email me. Have a great, great weekend. And we will see you back here on Monday. Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

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