In short
AM Update covering U.S. foreign policy meetings, newly surfaced Biden audio tapes, a viral teen lifeguard rescue, and a woman’s claims about an affair with Chris Watts.
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Key claims
- Trump met Zelensky and Netanyahu separately; Zelensky said they discussed licensed Patriot missile interceptors and restarting diplomacy; Netanyahu discussed Iran, Lebanon peace framework, and expanding Abraham Accords.
- Newly released Biden “ghostwriter” audio shows Biden struggling with memory and referencing classified material; Biden denies sharing classified info.
- 16-year-old lifeguard Ryder saved a boy during 10-foot surf at Seabright State Beach; Trump says he’ll invite Ryder to the White House.
- Amanda McMahon claims she had an affair with Chris Watts, alleging aggression, a “Shutter Island” movie-alibi parallel, and requests for opioids.
Notable examples
- Zelensky absent VP J.D. Vance from the meeting.
- Biden tapes from 2016–2017; FOIA fight and court-ordered release.
- Ryder’s grip through repeated breakers; human chain to pull them ashore.
- Watts’ “Shutter Island” story used as alleged defense.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump Hosts Global Leaders
0:33 to 2:11
President Trump meets with Ukrainian and Israeli leaders to discuss ongoing conflicts.
“Benjamin Netanyahu in separate White House meetings.”
Details from Trump's Meetings
2:24 to 5:20
Insights from Trump's discussions with Zelensky and Netanyahu on military and diplomatic issues.
“President Trump hosting the leaders of Ukraine and Israel for separate White House meetings yesterday as both countries remain locked in ongoing wars.”
Biden's Tapes Revealed
5:20 to 7:58
Former President Biden's private conversations leak, revealing troubling details about classified material.
“Biden's years as vice president and senator inside his Wilmington, Delaware home and at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.”
Teen Lifeguard's Heroic Rescue
11:05 to 14:01
A 16-year-old lifeguard saves a young boy from drowning, earning national recognition.
“A heroic teenage lifeguard battling thunderous waves to save a young boy from the Pacific Ocean, the extraordinary rescue now earning him an invitation to the White House.”
Chris Watts Case: New Revelations
14:01 to 19:02
Explore the disturbing details surrounding Chris Watts' case and his interactions with Amanda McMahon.
“Watts serving life in prison without the possibility of parole after pleading guilty to murdering his pregnant wife Shanann and their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste in Colorado in August 2018.”
Chris Watts Case: New Revelations
19:04 to 19:40
Explore the disturbing details surrounding Chris Watts' case and his interactions with Amanda McMahon.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start, Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin, or what that clunking sound from your dryer is? With Thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top-rated pros, see price estimates, and read reviews all on the app. Download today. Good morning, everyone. I'm Mark Halperin, host of NextUp with Mark Halperin. in today for The Great Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, July 29, 2026, and this is your AM Update. President Trump hosting Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in separate White House meetings.
0:40Some of this may be classified to be careful with it. I'm not sure. Newly released audio revealing former President Joe Biden struggling with memory while repeatedly referencing classified material during private conversations with his ghostwriter. I'm certain that if the lifeguards weren't there, he wouldn't have gone home that night. A heroic 16-year-old lifeguard battling thunderous ways to save a young boy, now earning an invitation to the White House from President Trump. A woman claiming she had an affair with convicted murderer Chris Watts, speaking out, revealing a chilling detail about their relationship.
1:15All that and more coming up here on your AM Update.
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2:43Zelensky saying the two discussed allowing Ukraine to produce American Patriot missile interceptors under license, along with efforts to revive the diplomatic process aimed at ending the war with Russia. The meeting coming as Ukraine claims its forces struck Russian military targets in the Caspian Sea over the weekend, including vessels allegedly involved in transporting military cargo connected to Iran. Notably absent from the Zelensky meeting, Vice President J.V. Vance, who publicly clashed with the Ukrainian leader during his disastrous Oval Office visit last year. Mr. Vance later joining President Trump for his separate meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, alongside Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, and Special Envoy Steve Witkoff.
3:30The two leaders discussing the ongoing war with Iran, the framework for peace in Lebanon, and a possible expansion of the Abraham Accords, according to a White House official. The meeting taking place amid emerging friction between Mr. Trump and Netanyahu over how Israel is handling the Middle East conflict. Asked earlier this week about Netanyahu reportedly opposing the administration's planned sale of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey, the president aboard Air Force One making clear the decision belongs to him. Look, Turkey's been a great ally for me. You know, I think he's done a very good job, Did a good job with Syria.
4:06He's a friend of mine. And nobody tells me what we should be selling and not. Turkey has been a tremendous ally for me. It was up to Turkey. Turkey's not a big fan of Israel. You know that, right? And not a big fan of Bibi. But they've been great for me. Turkey has been great. Mr. Trump also criticizing Netanyahu yesterday on Fox News for publicly announcing that Israel planned to present evidence Iran is rebuilding its military capabilities. Well, I don't need Bibi to tell me that. Bibi's telling me that because he wants me to stay involved. I mean, I don't necessarily... We have the finest because of Space Force.
4:48We have the greatest cameras in the world focused. We know exactly what's going on. But now I heard Bibi announce that. I said, why don't you just tell it to me? Why do you have to announce it to the world? I know exactly what's going on at Pickaxe. It's not a big problem. Netanyahu describing the meeting as, quote, a conversation of full partnership of mutual support with an understanding of the shared goal to ensure that Iran will not have nuclear weapons and also other goals. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt later describing both meetings as, quote, positive and productive. Zelensky and Netanyahu then joining President Trump at memorial services for the late Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who died shortly after returning from a trip to Kiev, where he met with Zelensky.
5:32former president joe biden's tape conversations with his memoir ghostwriter now coming to light after a years-long fight over their disclosure the tapes capturing mr biden's conversations with author mark zwannitzer the ghostwriter behind his 2017 memoir promise me dad special counsel robert hurr obtaining the recordings during his investigation into mr biden's handling of classified documents after leaving office as vice president investigators finding classified material from Mr. Biden's years as vice president and senator inside his Wilmington, Delaware home and at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.
6:09The recording is becoming one of the most damaging pieces of evidence detailed in her final report. Mr. Biden, reading aloud from personal notebooks, investigators later determined contained classified information while appearing at times to recognize the sensitivity of the material. Mr. Biden denying that he ever shared classified information, telling reporters after its release, quote, guarantee you I did not. The denial coming after Mr. Biden publicly expressed indignation over President Trump's alleged handling of classified documents. Here he is speaking with 60 Minutes in 2022. When you saw the photograph of the top secret documents laid out on the floor at Mar-a-Lago, what did you think to yourself looking at that image.
6:56How that could possibly happen. How anyone could be that irresponsible. And I thought, what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods? By that, I mean names of people who helped, et cetera. And it's just totally irresponsible. Her ultimately declining to bring criminal charges against then-President Biden, the final report, released back in February 2024, concluding prosecutors would struggle to secure a conviction in part because jurors would likely view Mr. Biden as, quote, a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory. The Conservative Heritage Foundation requesting the records under the Freedom of Information Act shortly after her report, with its oversight project later suing to force their release.
7:44Mr. Biden's lawyers intervening in the case and successfully blocking the release of the tapes until a federal appeals court ruled against him on July 20th, Mr. Biden dropping his remaining legal challenges days later, clearing the way for the tapes to be made public. The conversations recorded in 2016 and 2017, three years before Mr. Biden launched his successful campaign for the White House. Mr. Biden can be heard repeatedly losing his train of thought. I was going to ask you something else.
8:17Oh, gosh. I can't think what it is. Mr. Biden also making multiple references to classified information. Here he is appearing to caution the author before discussing material from his notebooks. Some of this may be classified. Be careful with it. I'm not sure. There's no more classified. I just found all the classified stuff downstairs. I wrote the president a handwritten 40 page memorandum. Another moment here. And then the next thing you have here is, this is classified, it's all of its ghost man. 17. Biden spokesperson T.J. Ducklow condemning the release, accusing the Trump administration of weaponizing the DOJ for political retribution.
9:07Vice president of litigation at the Oversight Project, Jeff Clark, posting to X, quote, Quote, Joe Biden shared classified information with a ghostwriter lacking a security clearance, and he illegally retained those documents in the first place, period. Coming up, a fearless 16-year-old lifeguard refusing to let go of a young boy as towering waves battered them both. The heroic rescue now drawing an invitation from President Trump to the White House. And a woman claiming she had a secret affair with a convicted family annihilator, Chris Watts, is speaking out.
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11:45Dramatic video showing Ryder wrapping both arms beneath the boy's armpits, refusing to release him as wave after wave swallows the pair. Each time another wall of water approaches, Ryder appearing to draw breath before diving underneath it, with the child still locked against his chest. The tremendous force of the surf repeatedly dragging them several feet back toward the ocean, leaving Ryder to fight for every inch of progress towards the beach. Several bystanders rushing into the water in an effort to help. One man quickly knocked away as an enormous breaker crashes over the group, a second lifeguard eventually reaching Ryder and the boy, the two rescuers continuing to drag the exhausted child through the violent surf.
12:26Even in the shallower water, the powerful current repeatedly knocking the group backward and leaving the boy unable to stand. The rescuer is finally connecting with a human chain of people along the shoreline, allowing the group to pull Ryder and the child the remaining distance onto the beach. Witnesses saying the battle lasting for longer than the viral footage shows, with Ryder never once releasing his grip on the boy. The child reportedly sustaining no serious injuries and was released to his parents. Scott Vander Doosen capturing the rescue on camera, describing to local outlet NBC Bay Area how the ocean transformed without warning.
13:03The waves were really, I wouldn't say they were tranquil, but they were what you would expect and normal cadence and normal intensity. And then that just changed. And it changed in a heartbeat. And it caught a lot of people off guard. Unfortunately, this young man was overwhelmed and swept out in just a moment's time. Yeah, I'm glad it ended the way that it did. I'm certain that if the lifeguards weren't there, he wouldn't have gone home that night. The video quickly going viral with Eric Trump calling the rescue, quote, truly the best of America and urging the government to award Ryder its highest civilian honor.
13:43President Trump posting yesterday to Truth Social, quote, we're going to bring this heroic young man and his family into the White House with perhaps the boy he saved to give him a high civilian honor. Very brave. He deserves it. A woman who says she had a secret relationship with convicted murderer Chris Watts now speaking publicly about the encounter in detail for the first time. Watts serving life in prison without the possibility of parole after pleading guilty to murdering his pregnant wife Shanann and their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste in Colorado in August 2018.
14:18Watts initially appearing before local television cameras to appeal for his family's return before investigators discovering their bodies at an oil site where he worked. Watts then falsely claiming he killed Shanann after seeing her murder their daughters before ultimately pleading guilty to killing all three. Amanda McMahon telling the Daily Mail in an exclusive interview she met Watts through Tinder while going through a contentious divorce custody dispute of her own. McMahon reportedly meeting Watts in a Chick-fil-A parking lot, with Watts claiming he was separated from the mother of his children, and accusing her of using the girls against him during a bitter custody dispute.
14:55McMahon telling the outlet Watts never described Shanann as his wife, instead reporting to her as, quote, baby mama, and portraying himself as trapped in a deeply unhappy relationship. McMahon saying they eventually decided to watch a movie with Watts reportedly selecting the Leo DiCaprio thriller Shutter Island. The film centering on a man who kills his wife after discovering she murdered their children closely resembling the false account Watts would later give investigators after Shanann, Bella, and Celeste were killed. Daily Mail senior reporter Steve Helling discussing that disturbing parallel on the MK True Crime show this week.
15:32So he has a movie date with Amanda McMahon, his mistress, and he chooses the movie Shutter Island, which is basically a man about a man who kills his wife after she kills their kids, which was a defense that he gave first off. He said, oh, yeah, I didn't kill the girls. She killed the girls. So I killed her in a rage, which was, of course, an absolute lie. And, you know, the idea that he watched this movie with his mistress before he killed his family and then tried to use the plot of that movie as an alibi, as an excuse, it's just it boggles the mind. It's just a totally different level of delusion, of evil, of manipulation, just all of that.
16:19mcmahon also alleging watts became frighteningly aggressive during their first sexual encounter pulling her hair and placing his hands around her neck she describes what came over him as a quote animalistic fury and saying the sudden change left her afraid he might hurt her mcmahon originally telling investigators the encounter was a one-time fling during the spring of 2018 she now claims the relationship actually began around april or may of 2017 and continued intermittently for months explaining she concealed its extent because she feared becoming connected to the murder case would damage her own custody fight helling explaining the elaborate story watts reportedly used to draw mcmahon into the relationship and the effect learning the truth later had on her she met him like he met all of his girls on tinder and um he said that he was separated that his wife was a b word who was trying to trying to keep the kids away from him he had this whole story just to kind of get this woman.
17:20And then he, you know, they started a little affair there. So Amanda explained the whole thing and said, you know, everything was fine and it felt good. But then he started talking about his wife and getting more and more agitated. And then she talked about some of the twisted sexual stuff that they did together and just how much it just sent her in a tailspin. once she found out that she, you know, had been sleeping with a guy who could kill his entire family. McMahon also reportedly alleging Watts periodically contacted her seeking access to her prescription opioids, claiming he told her he wanted to get, quote, messed up.
17:57She tells the Daily Mail she eventually grew tired of his complaints, late night messages, and alleged requests for medication, ending contact by changing her phone number in March 2018. McMahon reportedly recognizing Watts months later when she saw him on Facebook, appealing for information about his supposedly missing family, police interviewing her after someone forwarded investigators a Facebook post in which she described meeting Watts on Tinder. McMahon telling detectives at the time she was, quote, 99.9 % certain the man she met was Watts, and now, she says, she always knew his identity.
18:32Watts denying he ever met McMahon when questioned by police, insisting his only extramatital affair was with former co-worker Nicole Kessinger. McMahon initially offering to provide text messages she claimed had recently been recovered from her iCloud before declining because of their explicit nature and concerns her children might one day see them. The Daily Mail reviewing several screenshots of the purported messages while acknowledging it could not independently verify their authenticity. That'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Mark Halperin, host of NextUp. Find more at nextstophalperin.com and catch The Megyn Kelly Show today, live on SiriusXM, The Megyn Kelly Channel, 111 at noon east on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly and on all podcast platforms.
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President Trump hosts Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for separate White House meetings amid their ongoing wars. Newly released audio captures former President Joe Biden struggling to recall details and repeatedly referencing classified material during conversations with his memoir ghostwriter. A heroic 16-year-old lifeguard battles towering waves to save a young boy in California, earning an invitation to the White House from President Trump. A woman claiming she had an affair with convicted family murderer Chris Watts reveals he chose a film whose plot closely mirrored the false story he later told investigators.
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