Tucker Carlson on Epstein, Iran, and the Gender Divide, Plus Woke Journalists Badger Team USA, with Evita Duffy-Alfonso and Amala Ekpunobi | Ep. 1261

27:07And no sooner had I said it than later that day, this hit. It's just one video, but man, you know, she calls it out outright. Watch, look at this woman. I do love that we all love teated rivalry. I do think it did a little bit of damage because I think that we all kind of like maybe collectively forgot that like hockey is one of the most, if not the most conservative sports with the most conservative fan base. Like this isn't anything new. I would say it's comparable to golf or lacrosse, but like, here's the thing. Okay. Hockey. I don't know if you guys have seen like the USA national team. Everybody's white.

27:43Everybody on the team is white. Everybody affiliated with the team is white. All the coaches are white. Like there is not a lot of people of color in that space. And like a huge draw to hockey is it's violent. Like you are encouraged to be violent. Like the fans love to watch the violence. The players love to enact violence. Like, what type of ideology do you think a white man that comes from insane amounts of wealth for his entire life that like has these violent tendencies? What type of ideology do you think that they lean towards? Like, like, obviously, they were on the phone with Trump making fun of the women's team because that's what violent, rich white men do.

28:20Like, that's what their favorite thing to do is, is to like make fun of women and shit on women that are doing the same thing, if not better than they are. and they were all creaming in their fucking pants because they were on the phone with their dad. Like, it's so, like, I don't know. I appreciate her saying it out loud. Yeah, it's so sad. You look at that girl with the tattoos on her hands and the I hate myself haircut and you just see such a tragically broken person, but you also see in miniature the state of the country. The breakdown of relations between young men and young women is the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States worse than anything, any war we've ever had.

29:01It's the worst thing. And its products, its effects are low birth rate, like people are not coming together and having children, marriage rate in full collapse, and the radicalization of both young men and young women. The young men are becoming terrifyingly right-wing. I agree with them basically, but still, they're very, very intensely politically aware. I meet them all the time in airports. They're calling for an ethnostate, like they're mad. And the women are their polar opposite. They are like the woman, the young woman you just showed. They're angry, but in reverse. They're like they've embraced the most nihilistic, atheistic, left-wing politics imaginable.

29:45And they're pro-violence. They're the ones who cheered Charlie Kirk's murder. so like that is the building block of civilization is young man young woman come together form an alliance enduring lifelong with each other out of which flows the next generation of your citizens like that's the whole thing is marriage is the whole thing it's not just like some social issue that you know no no that is civilization and when that breaks down so does your civilization and And it's, boy, it's just the saddest thing I can imagine. Yeah. I mean, there's an unhealthy dose of crazy there. It used to be, like back when I went to school, if you had Jack Hughes, the hero, one of them, of the men's hockey team, all over your TV screen with the American flag draped around him and new, you know, three teeth now missing or sliced, smiling and talking about how much he loved America, virtually every young girl in America would fall in love with him.

30:43I mean, he's a good looking kid, too. So it's like virtually every 18 to 24 year old girl will be saying, is he single? How do I meet Jack Hughes? Only today do we have probably a majority of these crazy loons being like, I hate him. I hate his white skin. I hate his hockey affiliate. I hate his patriotism. And lying that he and the others come from some massively wealthy background. Jack's parents are all into hockey. The whole family's into the hockey business. They're not making huge tons of dough. The mom's like a consultant to the women's hockey team. The dad worked at a university for a time.

31:19My dad worked at a university. We were not rich, trust me. It's a lie. A lot of them tend to be, most of them tend to be working class heroes. But you wonder if it's about hockey. I mean, if you were to ask that young woman, I hope you can interview her maybe. Does she know what hockey is? I don't think she's a fan. how many touchdowns in hockey till you win like she doesn't know she doesn't know anything about it she's not mad at hockey she's mad at her dad and she's mad at the boys who she had failed relationships with and she's mad at society because it's made it impossible for her to do the thing that every person deep down wants more than anything which is to procreate and to love your own children and like she kind of knows that's not going to happen for her a lot of young people know that and they're really distressed by it.

32:04And why wouldn't they be? So if you fix that, by the way, have you ever met a happily married woman in your life, happily married woman who has those politics? I've never met one. I mean, maybe there are. I don't think they exist. No. Right. No. I mean, honestly, if you have a positive relationship with your dad, you'll wind up picking a positive relationship in a marriage. Exactly. You will pick a guy who will treat you respectfully love you and, you know, have a great, healthy life in every way. And then you won't run around hating men. Like your interactions with men are positive. Exactly. You'll raise strong boys.

32:41Like all of it is self-fulfilling. But meanwhile, now we have this. So they decline, the women declined to go to the White House for, or sorry, to go to the Washington for the State of the Union. And they had good, good reasons for that, that were stated. But now we're starting to see some of these women come out in these interviews baited by the press, owning the fact that they clearly don't like Trump. No one's shocked. They're in the right demo to hate Trump. It seems like the sort of overwhelming patriotism of the men's team didn't necessarily translate over to the women's team, though. That may be unfair.

33:12They may be patriotic. They may just hate Trump, but they are starting to say negative things about Trump. It's like, OK, now's not the time. Like, just just say, oh, it was a joke. Lighten up. That's all you should say, because by participating with the press is doing, you know, they're also crapping on their own moment and they're crapping on the guys moment. And the guys were in there defending them. The guys were not, they didn't come up with that joke. And the joke was so mild. Like hockey players are tougher than this. They're just pretending not to be. But now you have the team apparently getting ready to go out to Vegas to party with Flava Flav, who, as it turns out, is not a paragon of virtue when it comes to his relations with women.

33:50His criminal record suggests strongly he really enjoys beating them. So I'm just not sure that the guy with the like slightly off color joke in the locker room is less preferable than Flava Flav, who likes to punch women in the face. But here is the team, Team USA's Alex Carpenter on Wednesday after a game she just played, South 13. I can season out, but are you planning to go to Vegas and hang out with Flava Flav? What was that invitation like to receive that? Yeah, I've been messaging him a little bit here. He's probably my most texted person right now. Yeah, I think it was definitely super special, you know, after everything that's been going around online, to be able to have someone step up like that and really go to bat for us.

34:45And I think, you know, obviously finish our seasons up here, And then I think we're fully going to take advantage of that and go have some fun and celebrate like we deserve to. Amen. Just FYI, Tucker, 2021, Flav arrested for misdemeanor domestic battery, later dismissed after he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of misdemeanor coercion. Via People magazine, he allegedly grabbed a woman, poked his finger in her nose and face, grabbed her and threw her to the ground, allegedly grabbed a phone out of her hand. 2012 arrested for felony assault with a deadly weapon and misdemeanor domestic violence for allegedly chasing and threatening his fiance's 17 year old son with a knife in 2014 pleaded guilty to reduce charges of misdemeanor attempted battery.

35:2493 served 90 days in prison for shooting at a neighbor. 93 fired an unlicensed handgun at a neighbor in front of the Bronx home. 1991 served 30 days in jail after pleading guilty to assaulting his girlfriend. We could go on. I'm just thinking the mild joke in the locker room versus this. you know it's an individual choice i guess yeah i mean i you know you know like i don't want to be too blunt but i don't think flava flave is making these decisions he's the epstein of this of this scenario here i mean this is of course an op obviously to divide the country men from women to weaken right to weaken this is the story of the entire country for the last 60 years ever you know at least so um yeah flavor i mean and these poor girls like i don't think they have any idea right they're pawns too everyone you're watching on television is just an another creature crawling around the ant farm totally unaware that they're you know pawns in the hands of others toward a greater purpose and the and the greater purpose is to divide the country from within so it can be controlled obvious it's so obvious to me and i can i say i get i i only understood this when I spent more time abroad and watched the way things work in other countries where they're less sophisticated and they don't have a media infrastructure that's as good at lying as ours.

36:42Things are way more out in the open because human nature doesn't change country to country. People are just fundamentally the same because they're all created by God. And you see this in every country around the world, divide the population so you can't control it. And then you come back to this country like, oh, that's what's going on. No wonder we're telling people to be the fact that it's beautiful to have type 2 diabetes or whatever because you're trying to weaken them of course but but who is doing it well i think you know the most powerful people in the world obviously are the richest so the biggest companies have the greatest incentive um to take control they're the biggest shareholders if you think of the united states or the west or the world itself as a company which is not a crazy way to think of it a publicly traded company, as in any publicly traded company, the people with the biggest say are the biggest shareholders.

37:31So if you own the most stock, you have the most votes. And so I think of it that way. So COVID, for example, who won during COVID? Well, the biggest companies, Amazon won, the big box retailers, where for some reason it was impossible to transmit COVID indoors, but only in a big box retailer. But in a mom and pop store, it was incredibly dangerous. Like, what's that? And they became stronger, more powerful. The online retailers became the strongest and the most powerful, but more powerful even than they were the digital media companies, Amazon, Facebook, et cetera. They became the most powerful because that's the only people who communicate.

38:08And they were simultaneously the same people enforcing the COVID restrictions that they benefited from. So that's just, and I'm only bringing up COVID because it was the most obvious example of this. So if you break apart families and you destroy the loyalty between husband and wife, which they've definitely done, what do you get? Well, you get employees who are much more flexible, much more willing to give more of themselves to the company. You get more obedience is what you actually get. Women in the workforce, the greatest thing that ever happened to American companies ever, ever, because women are amazing employees, because they are in general, I can say as an employer of many women, they're more loyal.

38:48They will actually do what you ask them to do. They won't like freelance or space out or go to a strip bar for lunch. Like they're amazing employees. And in order to get them, you have to convince them that working for some bank is more important than having like a real marriage and raising kids. That's a hard sell. So you have to break the relationship between the husband and the wife. You have to destroy the family in order to do that, in order to get cheap, reliable labor. And it's so obvious to me that that's what happens. So, so obvious. In any scenario, just ask yourself the obvious question.

39:24This happened. It didn't happen naturally. It happened because people wanted it to happen in any scenario. Who benefited? That's not a crazy thing to ask. That's the first thing the police ask. Trust me. I was a police reporter for a year. I followed cops around to watch them investigate crimes. The first question they ask is who benefited? Because that's the most telling question. Right. And so I think it's fair to ask that. solves 90 % of all crimes. Who benefits if we bomb Iran? This is scary. Okay. Here's the latest. We have the largest force amassed in the Middle East since 2003. The deployment is unlike anything the US has done since 2003 when it amassed the forces behind the invasion of Iraq.

40:10We've shifted more than 150 aircraft to bases in Europe and the Middle East. I don't know how you pronounce it, but there's an air base we have in Jordan that's been a key destination for U.S. air assets streaming into the region. More than 60 warplanes were visible in satellite imagery taken Friday. More than a dozen F-35 fighter jets lined up on a tarmac. Roughly a third of all active U.S. ships are now in the region. Warships in the area also equipped with hundreds of Tomahawk missiles. aircraft carriers accompanied by guided missile destroyers and various aircraft and helicopters, the USS Abraham Lincoln, USS Gerald R.

40:48Ford. The Lincoln has not publicly broadcast its location for more than a week, but it's believed to be operating somewhere near Oman. Gerald R. Ford spotted off the Greek island of Crete on Monday. And I could go on. Somewhere, Lindsey Graham just got a chill down his spine and that special little feeling just at the list of that military buildup, Tucker, you're having a different feeling. So am I. I don't get it. I got to be honest. I don't get it because we were just told by the president in July, I covered it at length. You didn't want him to go into Iran with those bombs in July. We did. I was fine with it.

41:25I was like, whatever. Okay, fine. Let's take out the military facility or the nuclear facility. And then when they said they destroyed it, I didn't know. I saw the conflicting reporting on whether we did or we didn't, but the president certainly said we did. And now here we are six months later saying we have to go back in to stop the nuclear program. The one that we just allegedly bombed and destroyed a few months ago. I watched a debate on Piers Morgan today with two pro-Israel folks and two anti. And the pro-Israel woman was saying, yeah, Israel benefits. This is definitely good for Israel.

41:54Of course we want this. I accept that. I've heard you say on your show, great, no problem. But what do we get out of it? That's fine for them to want it and advocate. What do we get out of it? Why is President Trump considering this? I don't think the president wants to do it. I think he's been really clear about that. I spoke to him the other day. He didn't say anything to me that he doesn't say in public all the time. Trump is amazingly transparent in that way. I've spoken to him a lot. I speak to him regularly a lot. And he never says anything that he wouldn't say in the middle of a speech.

42:25You know, there's no like there's no secret agenda that I've ever detected. And he said, I don't want to do this. I want a diplomatic solution. I don't want to go to war. I ran against going to war. I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon. That's what he says in public and in private, on the phone and in person and on stage. And so I believe it. Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. It doesn't have the means to get a nuclear weapon. If it had a nuclear weapon to the United States, Mark Levin said three days ago in his podcast, they've got nuclear tipped ICBMs. That's a lie. He should be removed from his job for saying that because it's untrue and he knows it's untrue.

42:57This is not about protecting the United States. Among many other reasons. Well, that's right. But this is incredibly high stakes. I mean, I could go on for an hour about what could go wrong in this war if it takes place. I think it's likely to take place. But it's not assured. The president decides and he has not made that decision. But all things being equal, it will happen. And you could see massive disruption to the US economy. You could see a lot of Americans die. There are tens of thousands in the region, both military and non-military. And you could see some of our closest allies in the world, the Gulf states, who supply the energy for civilization around the world.

43:31You could see them disabled by this. And then you could see massive refugee crises around the world because the plan is to take out the leadership of Iran. But there's no plan after that. So it would be an open wound, 92 million people on a huge landmass. and that would continue the invasion of europe by immigrants a lot of them would wind up in the gulf states directly across the persian gulf and a lot of them would wind up here in the united states so there's kind of no upside but here's the way to think about it we're looking at it through the wrong frame this is not about protecting the united states obviously it's not about even protecting israel if you're israel and your main goal is not to get hit and to keep your cities safe.

44:16The last thing you're going to do is try to provoke Iran into lobbing ballistic missiles into your country. You would never do that. No, this is about sweeping away any opposition to Israel's regional hegemony. Israel believes as the only nuclear armed power in the Middle East that it should have control over the region. And by the way, I'm not attacking them. Every nuclear armed power feels that way. We feel that way. What's going on in South America? We have a right to weigh in on that because we're the big dog. They feel that way. And what stands in their way? Well, Iran primarily, also Turkey, and then the six Gulf energy producing monarchies, primarily Qatar, because they're disobedient.

44:57They don't follow Israel's lead on a lot of different things. And this war, and of course, the United States, because the United States is constantly telling Israel, you can do this, you can't do that. Trump's like, no, you can't take over the entire West Bank and kick all the Christians out or whatever. The United States is a constraint on Israel. So they want the US out of the region. Why wouldn't they? And they're, of course, pivoting to India. Israel has decided it needs a superpower to exist. It's only 9 million people. It's a really small country. So they have to be in alliance with a larger nuclear-armed power.

45:28They have to, or they won't exist. And they've picked India. Prime Minister Modi was in the Knesset yesterday and meeting with Netanyahu yesterday. And that is the plan. Israel will pivot from the United States to India. And I don't think anyone's even pretending that's not happening because support for Israel in the United States is going down. So this is the last opportunity for Israel to use the U.S. military to sweep away one of the few remaining speed bumps on the way to controlling the entire Middle East and having hegemony. And what does that mean? Well, Israel would like to expand its borders through the Levant into Syria.

46:04They were taking land there and into Lebanon. Same thing. and maybe even extending farther north from that. But Israel wants to be physically larger. Every country does. We do. This is just a feature of human nature. But they want to be larger and they can't because Iran's in the way, Qatar's in the way, the U.S. is in the way, and Turkey's in the way. So one by one, they're diminishing them. Does anyone think America will be stronger after this war? Of course not. America will be weaker. We can't afford it. We have no money. We don't know how long it will last. All the reports in the news are that even Dan Raisin-Kane, the chairman of the Joint chiefs has been saying this could easily spin into a very prolonged quagmire.

46:40President Trump truthed out, that's not true. He'll do whatever I ask him to. He's ready to go. All he knows how to do is win. But I mean, it's been reported in multiple papers now that Cain is saying this, this is fraught. This could be an extended thing. I don't know anyone who doesn't feel that way. No one in the Pentagon, I've talked to a bunch of people in the Pentagon. We don't have the munitions for this. Okay. Just to be, and this is again, been reported publicly. This is not secret. It is a fact, and this is the analysis of the Pentagon, that if this war goes two weeks, three weeks, a month, the United States will not have enough munitions to wage a major war for 10 years.

47:17Okay? No war with a peer or near-peer nation for 10 years because we don't have the industrial capacity to replace those munitions. We've already expended so many of them in defense of Israel in the last 12 months. And in Ukraine. And in Ukraine. So it's like there's no way that this helps the United States. We're not in a place to do it. I strongly think the president understands that. Certainly there's no one that I'm – let me just be blunt. There's no one I'm aware of in this administration who is aggressively pushing for this war. All of the pressure is coming from Netanyahu. It's why he went to the White House seven times in one year.

47:51It wasn't to be nice. It was to push for regime change in Iran. I'm not attacking him. That's not anti-Semitic. It's not even anti-Israel. It's an acknowledgement of the truth. And no matter what you slander people with, in the end, the truth remains true. Sorry. And so they want this. The only reason we would do it— But not just him. Not just him. His rabidly neocon friends here, like Mark Levin, like Lindsey Graham. I mean, there really is a bloodlust by some here domestically who do have the ear of the president to take out this regime as though it's going to be as easy as the Maduro raid. Well, but everyone – look, this is, again, a country of 92 million people that has been under sanction since 1979.

48:35It is an enormous country. It's the oldest civilization in the world, and they have a huge non-nuclear arsenal of ballistic missiles. Huge. The estimates of this are publicly available. You could bore yourself all day reading about it. This is a very serious thing. When we invaded Iraq in 2003, almost exactly 33 years ago, that country had 25 million people, and it was one-sixth the size of Iran. And we were there for 20 years, and we never fully pacified it. this is a country of 92 million people and like reality matters actually like the number of people who live in your country the armaments they possess it's landmass these are relevant facts for people who plan wars and they help determine the outcomes of those wars and occupations so this is pure insanity and what people like levin whom i'm not attacking i feel sorry for because he's clearly living in hell but what they're trying to do is a species of witchcraft and it's really simple you repeat something until it becomes true khamenei must die we're going into war we're going to knock off the government this is good for us anyone who's against it is an anti-samean a nazi should be expelled benedict arnold not allowed in the white house you keep repeating things that are untrue until they become true you speak you create truth by speaking in the beginning was the word right there is a there's a holy power there's a supernatural power in words describing things is different from simply doing them and if you you can talk reality into being this is what an incantation is that's what a spell is it's not like spooky like crazy stuff it's the lived reality of every person say it and it becomes true and that's exactly what they're trying to do and nobody is making the case for how how does this help the united states how does this make us richer safer happier zero and my concern is if this actually happens and it's likely to what then there will be no defense like the we waged the iraq war for israel it's obvious now the people who planned it say that out loud there was there were no wmd the israelis told us there were wmd there weren't we know that now they're telling us their wmd in iran also untrue but it took 20 years to figure that out if we go in maybe at the end of this week or whenever every american will know this wasn't done for us it was done for a country of nine million people, where are we then?

51:01Then it's clear we have no sovereignty. It's clear who did this to us, our leaders. Our leaders did this to us at the behest of foreigners. And you sort of feel like at that point, I don't know how the system works at that point. I'm really worried about not just the war, but the long-term effects on our country. We've done enough for Israel. We're allies with Israel. We've done a lot for Israel. I'm firmly in the camp of, we don't need to do this, Joe. And by the way, we already did this. We already took out their nuclear facilities, or so we were told by the president and his team. I'd like to take them at their word.

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52:56Tucker Carlson is host of The Tucker Carlson Show. He's back with me. You can find all of his great content at TuckerCarlson.com. If you sign up and become a member, you can get a daily email from Tucker, which is always worth reading. Um, so while we were in the break, your, your pal, Mike Pompeo posted on X the following as the U S enters a new round of negotiations with Iran, because by the way, folks, that's, those are happening today. Jared Kushner and Steve Wyckoff are doing this both directly and indirectly, um, trying to avoid this thing. Remember the only outcome worth having is the verifiable destruction of the regime's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and an end to its support for global terrorism.

53:42Unfortunately, the odds are slim to none. So what do you make of Pompeo's framing of the issue here? Mike Pompeo is a criminal who should be arrested for plotting the murder of Julian Assange when he had no right to do that. Assange had never even been charged with anything in the United States and Pompeo plotted his murder. So he should be arrested. I've said that to him, and I mean it. So with that out of the way, let me say, we're not doing this because Iran poses an existential threat to us or to Israel. We're being pushed into war by Benjamin Netanyahu because Benjamin Netanyahu wants regional hegemony in the Middle East.

54:19It's really simple, and I wish people would just say that. And by the way, if Israel wants to overthrow the government of Iran and deal with the consequences, it can do. They can do whatever it wants. It's got nuclear weapons. But stop lying to me and telling me that there's some peace deal you want where Iran has to, you know, give up any sovereignty at all, but they don't get sanctions relief. They can have no weapons of any kind. It's not about the weapons. It's about Iran standing in the way of Israel's regional territorial aims. Obviously, that's not embarrassing. By the way, every country feels this way.

54:55Every big nuclear armed power feels like I should get to control the area I live in. I mean, they feel that way. It's okay. But stop lying. It's the Americans who never stop lying. Shills like Pompeo are getting paid from who knows how many different groups to lie to you and coming across as some sort of moral voice or poor Mike Huckabee guys like that who are just like under some spell. Let's just be honest about what this is. It's not about Iran's weapons. It's about Israel's ambitions and Iran's stance. And now, by the way, in case you haven't noticed, they're making bellicose noises about Turkey.

55:30Oh, the next war is against Turkey. I have no feelings about Turkey or Erdogan one way or the other. I mean, there's nothing farther from my life than that. It's where men go for hair transplants. That's what I know about Turkey. I like Bodrum, okay? It's like, it's pretty. That's where you get on the boat. It's fine. It's all fine. But now we have to hate Turkey. Why? Because they are the last remaining nation in the region that could stand in the way of Israel controlling the whole region. This is about territory bb sees his country as a great global power himself as a great global leader i get it not attacking him doesn't make me an anti-semitage just i'm noticing this and they want what every leader like that wants which is to be the caesar of his realm okay but they're just lying to us and telling us they've got nuclear tipped icbms coming from new york stop you liar you're lying and you want my military been lying for a long time it's insane they've been lying for a lot I saw you did this on your show, this soundbite, which we're going to play.

56:26But when this first started again, like the buildup to what we did in July with BB, like they're this close to having the nuclear bomb. It was one of the aha moments that I've had over the past year when it came to Israel because I was there. I was at Fox News for each of those U.N. addresses by BB. and the one that I remember in particular where he had the picture of the bomb and it looked like the round bomb that like they do in the cartoons and said that they're within months. And I was a naive young journalist at Fox who really didn't do a lot of foreign policy coverage. Like, oh, wow, that sounds dire.

57:01God, that's bad. We better pay attention if that's true. I think Iran hates us. That's what they say. And they hate Israel. So wow. And here we were 14 years removed from that speech with him saying the same thing. And truly, it's just like over time, if you paid any attention, you realize he's been lying every, every time he has an agenda. They weren't. He's said it for years. If they were within months of getting the bomb back then, that was 2012. Why are we now at 2026 and they don't have it? And you ran a similar clip on your show. I think it was last night from dating back to the mid nineties.

57:38Yes. We're going to show it in part here. Watch. The most dangerous of these regimes is Iran, that has wed a cruel despotism to a fanatic militancy. Only the United States can lead this vital international effort to stop the nuclearization of terrorist states. But the deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close. The two nations that are vying, competing with each other, who will be the first to achieve nuclear weapons is Iraq and Iran. And Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems. They're very close. They're six months away from being about 90 % of having the enriched uranium for an atom bomb.

58:19They're rushing forward with their enrichment program. By next spring, at most, by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and move on to the final stage. From there, it's only a few months, possibly a few weeks, before they get enough enriched uranium for the first bomb. You don't want this Iran to have neither nuclear weapons or the capability to make nuclear weapons to enrich uranium for a nuclear bomb in short order. In a few weeks or a few months, they could do that unless that's changed. With this massive capacity, Iran could make the fuel for an entire nuclear arsenal.

59:03and this in a matter of weeks, once it makes that decision. 2015. By the way, that was our montage. I know you did what you do, but Debbie Murphy's correcting me that we put that one together ourselves. But he's been saying the same thing for years, Tucker, trying to bait us into this. And now, you know, thanks to Pompeo and Levin and guys like that, they have a president who's at least considering it. I just feel like Trump, he hates war. Why would he do this? bb also got more hair every year over 30 years which is amazing kind of like defying nature um i'm sorry that was so catty i'm sorry i said that uh but it's true but no it's not and again like bb's doing bb has contempt for the united states and for american leaders he expresses it all the time no wonder because they do his bidding and they swallow his obvious lies and you can't help but have contempt for people you can manipulate and they very much have contempt for us like and they show it.

59:59Ask anyone, any American diplomat other than Huckabee who deals with the Israelis, and they just exude contempt. And it's deserved. They should have contempt for us because our leaders swallow this stuff and do their bidding unthinkingly and betray the American people in the process. So again, it's not a matter of being mad at Israel, much less anti-Semitic. It's a matter of feeling betrayed by our own leaders. In the case of our current president, he doesn't want to do this he may not have a choice actually because israel has said if you don't join us we're going to do it anyway move unilaterally possibly with nuclear weapons which they have and they've threatened that before and everyone pretends that's not true it is true they threatened it in 1973 i believe they threatened it subsequently if you don't backstop us if you don't defend us help us send us armaments send your aircraft carriers to the region give us missile defense we'll have no choice but to use nukes against our enemies and nobody wants that because it could set off a third world war a nuclear third world war so that is their trump card they've played it before i believe they are at least implying it now they are playing it in effect now and so it leaves the administration with like how many choices if they say they're going to do it then the best you can do i guess is to try to constrain them by by shaping what they're doing okay we'll participate but we're going to set some of the boundaries here.

1:01:21I mean, I do think that's the thinking. That is my impression. No one's told me that explicitly, but it's pretty obvious. But I would just say there is another option that no one in Washington ever seems to consider, which is constraining our client state and saying, look, for our sake, and by the way, also for yours, no. If you allow people who are dependent on you to treat you like this, it doesn't end well. If you allow your children to scream the F word in your face at dinner, it's bad for you, but it's also bad for them because they're out of control you are not you are not living up to your role as a parent as a guardian as the person in charge as the guy paying for all this as the country of 350 million would naturally relate to a country of 9 million it's our fault we've let israel get completely out of control they're they're fighting a seven front war right now who fights a seven front war like if you're fighting a war i heard you discussing it but it's like obviously insane a seven-front war?

1:02:19Who does that? We don't want in on that. We do not want in on any seven-front war. You're not managing your life correctly. But I want to play this soundbite because you talked to Mike Huckabee about that desire within Israel, amongst its leaders anyway, for hegemony, for growing power within the Middle East. And he made an admission, of course he's our ambassador to Israel, he made an admission that caused an international scandal. All these Middle Eastern countries responded very angry at what he said. Here's the clip. God gave that land to his people, the Jews, or he didn't. You're saying he did.

1:02:52What does that mean? Does Israel have the right to that land? Because you're appealing to Genesis. You're saying that's the original deed. It would be fine if they took it all, but I don't think that's what we're talking about here today. I think it would be fine if the state of Israel took over all of Jordan. take it over. You're explaining what Christian Zionism is and your theological beliefs. And I think you just said it would be fine with you if the state of Israel took all of Jordan, all of Syria, all of Lebanon. They're not trying to take over Jordan. They're not trying to take over Syria.

1:03:25They're not trying to take over Iraq or anywhere else. But they do want to protect their people. CNN pointing out that suggesting even nominal support for Israeli sovereignty over much of the Middle East is an unprecedented departure from American foreign policy. It also goes well beyond what much of Israel's far right is willing to call for publicly. Nearly every Middle Eastern country aside from Israel condemned Huckabee's comments in a joint statement on Sunday, led by the UAE, backed by Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Qatar and others, denounced his comments as dangerous and inflammatory. And even Muslim-majority countries outside the region like Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan also signed on to the denunciation.

1:04:10So what do you – did he just have a moment where he let his guard down? Because he was trying to be so careful in that whole interview, Tucker. What happened there? It went on like this for two and a half hours. He should be recalled he doesn't represent the United States. This was a true humiliation to our country. This is our U.S. ambassador. I'm the son of an ambassador. I sort of know how this works. You're supposed to represent the president and the nation, and he's representing the country. he's living in, which is a foreign nation. So it's a humiliation. It's also sad for him. That's not Christian theology.

1:04:37It's not even close to Christian theology. He's going to have to deal with that at some point. But as a practical matter, he couldn't explain the most obvious questions. I asked, he said, as people often do, does Israel have a right to this land? And I said, where does that right come from? And do other countries have similar rights? And he said two things. No, no other country has a right. No other people has a right to its land. Only the Israelis have a right to their land. That's it. The Irish don't have a right to Ireland. The English don't have a right to England. The French don't have a right to France.

1:05:11Only the Israelis have a right to Israel. And that right comes from God. And so I said, being familiar with the verse, that's from Genesis 15. And here's the promise that God made to Abram before he became Abraham to Abram in Genesis 15. And it's the land between the Nile and the Euphrates. And that's the whole Israel has a right to this land. This is his own framework, not mine. I'm a Christian, but I believe in also secular diplomacy. Like these are the boundaries. This is what the treaty specifies. Like I live in reality. I don't think that the blueprint for international relations is Genesis 15.

1:05:46I just don't think that. Call me a bad Christian. I don't think that. But he does. And so since he does, I said, okay, do they have the right to all of this? And he said, Now, famously, they can take it. He's saying that not simply as some sort of, I guess, sort of Christian preacher, I guess. He's saying there's the U.S. ambassador to what everyone calls our closest ally. Boy, you can't talk that way if you're a diplomat representing my country and my president. So I think it's an outrage leaving aside all the other stuff. So rather than explain it, he just goes on this rant that I should be banned from the White House, that I'm a Nazi, I'm an anti-Semite, which I'm not.

1:06:25Everyone knows me, knows I'm not. I've said it a thousand times. I'm totally opposed to anti-Semitism. But he denounces me personally. This only started when you got more critical of Israel. They started calling you an anti-Semite over and over and over. And I do think it's a means of undermining your critique of Israeli policy. Of course, and getting me killed. I get it. I get it. They're trying to otherize you. Yeah, but I'm not going to, you know, I'm too old to put up with this. And I would say, just to be blunt, people are very intimidated by that. They're intimidated because they don't want their reputation destroyed.

1:06:55They also don't want to be killed. People sense a physical threat from that kind of language, and they should. Those are fighting words. Those are words meant to inspire violence. Israel is an incredibly violent country. It brags about its violence. Many books have been written about its assassination campaigns, which have been ongoing since the end of the Second World War when they assassinated committed acts of terrorism against the British when they blew up the King David Hotel, et cetera, et cetera. People know this is a very violent country, the most violent country on planet Earth. And when you criticize it, you can get physically hurt or you can get deplatformed, debanked, lose your job.

1:07:27These are not hollow threats. And because those threats are real. Or they will pay random influencers all over the internet by the tweet to try to destroy your reputation and say that you're a neo-nazi anti-semite at every turn, whether your name is Tucker Carlson or Megyn Kelly, for that matter. I mean, and I barely ever even talk about Israel and I've experienced some of this backlash. It's ridiculous. Well, you came out and said, I love Israel. I'm a friend of Israel. I couldn't be more pro-Jewish. I don't have an anti-Semitic bone in my body. And I, by the way, really like Israel for the fifth time.

1:07:58And they still called you a Nazi. So why? Why? And I even talked to some of the people doing it i was like megan kelly really if megan kelly's an anti-semite i mean i don't even know where we are here and but now we're seeing why and the reason was to prevent criticism of policy goals israel wants they're saying it out loud they want to use the u.s military and the u.s treasury to sweep aside the last remaining obstacle to regional hegemony in the middle east which is iran and they don't want to be criticized or to be asked like what's the plan here because they don't have an answer. And so they have taken offline preemptively critics by being so violent rhetorically and maybe physically that everyone's like, I don't want to get involved.

1:08:42I don't want to deal with this. The cost is too high. That is exactly what they've done. And I've just decided at 56, I don't care. And I'm just going to do this because I believe that my motives are pure. I'm just an American. And I think it's important to say this, but there a lot of other people who feel it who won't say it because it's like, I've got kids. I don't want to deal with this. That is true. That's a fact. I know. I'm sure you get, I'm sure you get what, I mean, I'm only new to this being called an anti-Semite game, you know, on the top of being a racist and a transphobe and a pedophile lover and all the things that, you know, we've probably both been called over the years.

1:09:16Now the latest is anti-Semite, neo-Nazi. But I get texts all the time from people who are like, I agree with what you're saying. I just can't say it publicly. I'm sure you get that times a hundred. Like people, they are scared. They're scared that this very loud lobby of online so-called influencers, whatever, I mean, the vicious online X crowd is going to come for them. And I understand it because Tucker, you have a huge show. We have a big show too. It's going to be really hard to destroy you. And thankfully, I think it's going to be really hard to destroy us too. And so we're in a little bit more of a steady place than a lot of these people who agree with us, but are, you know, probably wisely not being that out loud about it because that could be their head in a basket next.

1:10:03No, there's, that's right. And they go after members of your family. They've certainly done that to me very aggressively, but really the cost here is not, is not that the cost here is hate. So you see some of these people, and I would say Levin is one of them, Luma is another, who are not making an argument. They're trying to evoke hate in you. They are trying to make you hate them. Now, why would they do that? Because that's the nature of, this is supernatural, just saying this is spiritual battle as well as a temporal battle. And the answer is really simple, because hate feeds on evil, or evil feeds on hate, rather.

1:10:41So to the extent that they can inspire hate in their opponents, they become stronger. It's just a fact. And the opposite, of course, are the people trying to inspire love and bring unity and stop division and make people understand each other and invoke empathy in others like those are signs of god and goodness but signs of evil are always the same chaos and hate and chaos and hate are the things that they're calling for and it's very easy to get sucked into that if you spend your life on the phone reading thing you know reading attacks not just on yourself but on other reading attacks on you was actually driving me completely i never read about myself, but I'd read these attacks.

1:11:17Megyn Kelly's a Nazi or whatever. And I'm like, I can't believe you're saying that. It's such a lie. It's irrational. Irrational, by the way, is another feature of their rhetoric. It doesn't make sense. That's designed to bewilder you and again, to inspire hate in you. So I really think the trick for the rest of us is don't play along. I'm not going to be hateful. I don't hate you. I'm never going to hate you because I don't want to feed the evil through hate. No, I consider it a massive blessing that all of my best friends actually do happen to be Jewish. Like it's a massive blessing, you know, because this kind of like nonstop harassment can actually drive you to like drink.

1:11:54Like what, what the hell? This is crazy. No, I totally agree. Has ever done to either one of us. They are way worse. Way worse. And so it's like, you have to be reminded every day that no, no, no, no, no, they don't speak for American Jewish people. Well, they certainly don't have all sorts of varying views on Israel, on Netanyahu and on war with Iran and have no problem with people being critical of those things. This is like an online sect that is in large part paid to push an agenda that includes, you know, cutting people out like you and me, like a canary in the coal mines, like this will happen to you.

1:12:30Anybody who comes, if I can do this to Tucker, if I can do this to Megan, I can do it to all of you and I will do it relentlessly. Try to ruin you, smear you, make it so that you can't even go on X anymore, which is why I refuse to leave there. And they want to give the impression that they completely control the administration, that they alone decide who goes into the White House. And I've gone to see Donald Trump - They're literally pushing for you never to be allowed back into the White House right now. I've gone three times in the last month. Now, why have I done that? I have no real interest in going to Washington.

1:12:58I don't live there anymore. I'm from there, but I don't go there because I don't want to. But I have gone, first, because I really like Trump and I've known Trump longer than Laura Loomer's been alive, probably. And I've always liked him. I've always gotten along with him. And Donald Trump ran on the things that I believe. Okay. So, and I campaigned for him. These people did not. I did. So I have a relationship with Trump that is very affectionate and honest. And I'm just going to say that out loud. And I thought, I just want to make the point that no, I like Trump and Trump certainly doesn't agree with me on everything and certainly doesn't follow my instruction, unfortunately, on all kinds of things at all.

1:13:35But I'm an American who knows him and really likes him and has for many years, and I have a right to go there. So I'm just going to make that point. No, you don't control the White House. I'm sorry. Part of this is illusion. They're trying. They have a tiny minority position in the United States. Mark Levin represents what, five, 10 percent of the American population agrees less, agrees with Mark Levin. But they're creating this kind of movie set where they're speaking for the majority they've got an american flag in the background if you're a true patriot then you want to send your son to go die for a foreign country and get poorer in the process like it's all insane but they're creating this illusion that it's real and my job i feel like is to to the extent i can help break that illusion no i'm going to walk into the white house which i've been visiting since i was a child this is my country i'm very familiar with this city i'm very familiar with this building and i'm very familiar with the guy who occupies the oval office right now.

1:14:31And I really like him. And I just want to say that because that alone might help shatter the illusion that they totally control Trump. They do not totally control Trump. That is not true. I've talked to Trump five times in the past month. They do not totally control Trump. He listens to them. He listens to others. He listens to BB. He also listens to MBS and MBZ. And he listens to a lot of people. They're not totally in control. Sorry. And I just want to remind people of that. Well, I mean, the last time I went to the White House, I was reminded of the fact that you do need an invitation to get in.

1:15:04Like, I love that they're making it sound like you just stormed the gates. I insist on speaking with the president. You go to the White House by invitation. It's very clear that the president does want varying points of view. And Mark Levin, I saw him at the White House. He was there not long ago. He has his say, but he doesn't want you to have your say. and you represent a very large faction of Americans, not just Republicans. There's a very large swath of Democrats that doesn't want to see war with Iran either. And the president should have access to you and your ideas, which are very well thought out.

1:15:36You spend a lot of time thinking about this and interviewing people on it. Just Mark Levin doesn't, it's his ideas or no one's. That's really where he is, which is just completely bonkers. And Trump is not standing for it. Well, he's trying to create the illusion that his ideas are the only ideas and that he represents some kind of consensus. And I, you know, I'd be willing to bet I represent the views of more Americans than Mark Levin does. I'd be willing to bet my life, actually. But it's not even about that. It's Mark Levin. Over 70 percent do not want war with Iran. Well, Mark Levin wants you to believe that he controls Trump.

1:16:07And Bibi wants you to believe that he controls Trump. Bibi runs around the Middle East telling all the other leaders, you can't talk to Trump directly. I control Trump. He's told. I mean, I know that because I've talked to those leaders who told me that. That's a fact. OK, I control Trump. That's what Bibi tells everyone in the region. You want to deal with him, you deal with me and I'll bring the message. Mark Levin is taking the same message to the American public. I control Trump. He's with Trump at some event a few months ago. He puts his arm around. He's like a little short man, puts his arm around the president of the United States and like pulls him in like that.

1:16:36Who does that? Trump doesn't like that. Who would like that? Would you like that? Trump. Exactly. His message is I control Trump. And as someone who knows Trump very well and loves Trump and always has loved Trump, despite getting annoyed at certain points, you know, spent a lot of time with Trump. That offends me. You do not control Trump. He is an autonomous man. He's the president of the United States elected by the nation, not by you and your irrelevant little podcast that nobody listens to or BB, who's not even an American. No, he represents all Americans, all americans of all religions stop trying to divide this country stop trying to tell me all muslims are evil how is that better than all jews are evil it's not better it's exactly the same the message that americans yearn for and the only path back to american strength is american unity where citizenship is the thing that brings us together we may disagree on things but we're all in this together it's like a marriage i may be mad at my spouse but we're still married and it's people like mark levin who are trying to divide this country break it into its component in parts so they can control it.

1:17:40Do not allow that. And the first step from my perspective is making the point that they do not, Mark Levin and BB and the rest of these ghouls do not control Donald Trump. He is a free man who answers to God and the public. And I just wanted to shatter the illusion and I hope that it helped. They really hate me for doing it, but sorry, I'm going back because I love Trump and I like going there to see him and it's interesting and he's fun. He's funny as hell. And I'm an American and I'm going to continue to do that. They can't stand your influence, which is kind of fun to watch. And, you know, listen, there's a reason God put you in this position, like built you up to the point where you could take on this battle, Tucker, and the slings and arrows coming your way, which are substantial.

1:18:23I mean, truly, we've both been through the cable news gauntlet and it really is a snake pit. And what's happening now on this front, these people are way worse than anything. Dude, that was nothing compared to this. media matters ever through this. We used to complain about Irina Briganti or whatever at Fox, like, oh, she's so bad. That was nothing compared to what these people are like. Yeah. Whoa. Last I checked, I, you know, we look at the podcast charts on Apple all the time, which is our biggest platform. And we're, you and I are always up there. We're like one and two, one way or the other every week when it comes to power house podcasts.

1:19:02And the only one we ever really trail behind is the New York Times, the Daily. Sometimes one of those other left-wingers will get in front of us, but we're doing great. So it's not working is my point. And that drives them even more crazy. So just speaking truth, that's what gets you there. I love talking to you, my friend. Let's do it again soon. You're the best, Megan. Thank you very much. Lots of love. You as well. It's so good to talk to him. I just feel like what's happening to Tucker is unfair. and, you know, I hate the word unfair. It's like not a healthy word. When you spend too much time thinking about how your life is unfair, you become bitter.

1:19:38But I will just say, as a factual matter, what's happening to him is unfair. If you listen to Tucker's show, and I do listen to his show, he is very critical of Israel. He does not like how they try to exercise control over us and to pull us into wars. And that drives a certain segment crazy. But he is not somebody out there criticizing Jews, okay? That's what the left, not all the left, just the crazy, you know, like, and it's not the left, This is the right. Mark Levin is on the right. But it's the sort of the very, very ardently pro-Israel crowd would have you believe he's got a problem with Jews.

1:20:07And he doesn't. He just doesn't. There's just no evidence of that. And there's zero evidence when it comes to me. It's my friendship with Tucker that's gotten me canceled by some segments and had some people saying, like, I'm an anti-Semite, including Mark Levin, calling me a neo-Nazi. It's ridiculous. In any event, I hate talking about it. It makes you not want to talk about Israel at all. Because it's like there's no upside. You know, this fucking crazed, lunatic online crowd will come for you because that's all they care about. They don't give a shit about the United States. They are Israel first.

1:20:37So it's like, you don't want to touch it. Like, I don't want to deal with these absolute vile bullies. But we may be going to a war with Iran because they're pushing Trump into it. So we must talk about them and we will. And if you don't like our commentary, you have lots of other options to turn to. So far, we've been doing just fine. And I think our audience has room in its heart for diverse viewpoints. And that's fine by me too, even if you disagree with me. As you know, on this show, from the beginning, one of my most favorite thing to read in the emails is, I disagree with you all the time, but I love the show because it opens my mind or I hear interesting discussions that I can take or leave at my pleasure.

1:21:19That's high praise. That's what we try to do. And I hope, I try to model the ability to talk to people with whom I disagree or with whom I've had disagreements in the past to show you can get past it. You know, like who would ever have expected my friendship with Steve Bannon? It's like, it's crazy. Who would have thought that? But I am very capable of moving past prior slights and negative chapters because I'm human and I have to exist in this world. And I live in an ecosystem where if you can't do that, you'll have nobody left to talk to. Oh my God, it's vicious. Anyway, just a long way of saying, I appreciate all of you for listening and making this show what it is and making it possible for me to say what I think without being canceled in two seconds by the online angry people just as soon as I sit behind the mic.

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1:25:41Turning now to some other headlines, Mayor Zoran Mamdani is back at the White House as we learn more about the assault on NYPD officers in his city, you know, by so-called kids. And another Olympic men's hockey team member is getting grilled by the absolute worst woke sports writers of America. Joining me now to break it all down is independent journalist Evita Duffy Alfonso and podcaster Amala Epinobi, host of the Amala Epinobi podcast. Evita Amala, welcome back. Great to have you. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. OK, let's start with Brady Kachuk, who is American but plays up in Canada and just got cross-examined by some woke Canadian female sportscaster.

1:26:23I heard KK talking about you, Abby Murphy. Would you understand how they could feel pretty put down by that moment? I mean, yeah, I mean, I get it. I think, yeah, I mean, I don't really, of course, I have no really other comments other than, you know, for the things that we can control, and that was, you know, we supported them, they supported us. Can't control about, you know, what other people say. By far the best team in that tournament. It was just fun hanging out with them after, you know, picking their brains. They were picking our brains, and it was just fun to be around them. So then why would you laugh when they got invited?

1:26:58I mean, I don't really have an answer. Honestly, it was just a whirlwind of a moment that, like, you can't really control what somebody says. And it just, I guess, caught off guard a little bit. But I know you're talking to the president. I am so sick of this shit, Amala. This is stomach turning. When will it end? Oh, my gosh. Who knows? I'm so tired of the PC police. But I think what happens here is they represent the worst nightmare for the left here, like a group of white men who are triumphant on behalf of the U.S. that are being called by Donald Trump. It was a recipe for disaster from the start here.

1:27:39And I think we got to talk about the joke that Donald Trump made about the women's team and use it to talk about the accomplishment of the men's team here without setting aside that the women did really great at the Olympics. these men have been like in a 40 year metal drought when it comes to hockey 46 years in fact and they broke that the men's team gets more viewers they have more supporters this should be an amazing time to unite as americans and just celebrate something that was awesome and of course they're gonna laugh they're in a high they're in a moment where they've accomplished something really great and for their country and we should be able to set aside a little joke that may or may not have been in poor taste and allow them to celebrate this moment.

1:28:21It's ridiculous. Here's the joke again for people who haven't heard it. Trump with the guys in the locker room post-win. What would really be cool, and we'll do the White House the next day, we'll just have some fun. We have medals for you guys. And we have to, I must tell you, we're going to have to break the woman's team. You do know that. I do believe I probably would be impeached, okay? A lot of the guys said amazing, said two for two, two for two. Evita, they had no problem with it. And then he followed up with or I'd be impeached. And they gave him some polite chuckles. And for this, the media is ruining both the men's and the women's celebration of their gold medals.

1:29:02I mean, a lot of the men in that room seem to be celebrating the women's victory as well. Like the assumption that it's negative and sexist is, of course, intentional because they want to make everything, as Amala said, a victory for white men, somehow a negative, awful thing. And I'd like to ask just every single person who's offended by this, all the journalists, all the female athletes who are left-wing, do you guys support trans-identifying men in women's sports? I mean, if you guys can come to the table on that one, then we can have a conversation about whether President Trump is sexist when he calls the team in the locker room to congratulate them.

1:29:39But otherwise, I just don't want to have a conversation about it. It's kind of ridiculous. It's not just that Canadian journalist, Abby, whatever her name is. The Canadian journalists are, of course, terrible because Canada is so woke and annoying. There's a guy named Damian Cox who writes for the Toronto Star, wrote an op-ed there. And he took issue with one of our players named Austin Matthews, who plays for the Toronto Maple Leafs. He's been playing for them for 10 years. And he's very, very upset that this guy, Austin Matthews, acted happy to win his gold medal, even though he plays for a Canadian team in the NHL.

1:30:20I mean, it's ridiculous. The op-ed is full of a long lecture for Austin about how he's got two C's on his jersey, one's for Canada, one's for captain, and that clearly he proved by going to the White House. So he didn't go to the State Union. He went to the White House and had the burgers with the president, shook his hand, that the one C, captain means more to him than the other sea, Canada, and had a lecture for him about how he was allowed to celebrate. It was fine for him to go to Miami, according to this writer. But at that point, after that was all done, he could have said, sorry, boys, but I've got to go back to work.

1:30:54He talks about how the Maple Leafs really needed him and they're in serious danger of missing the playoffs. Instead, the Arizona-born pivot chose to jump on a plane for Washington, D.C. to accept an invitation to visit Trump. He went to a luncheon, posed for pictures with Trump, then skipped the dog and pony State of the Union address. He says, apparently, he's blissfully unaware many athletes and teams have declined invitations from the Trump administration. The entire women's hockey team, possibly insulted by the fact that Trump made this joke, said thanks, but no thanks. He preferred to exchange his immediate return to the Leafs for the opportunity to shake Trump's hand.

1:31:29When asked about his lack of sensitivity toward Canada, Matthews took the athlete's easy way out. Quote, I don't like to get political or get into that kind of stuff, he said. We get it. You're a proud American, but not a proud Torontonian, not even verbally supportive of the country that has given you the privilege of living and working here as a non-citizen for a decade. He's outraged. This guy, I can't. Like these, sooner or later, our boys are going to have to start telling everyone to fuck off. Oh, yeah. I mean, at this point, have you seen them play a game of hockey? Have you seen how rough and masculine that game can be?

1:32:09And here we are being offended by people going to visit the president. And I think we should look a little bit further into his statement. Not only did he say, I don't like to get political, but he sort of alludes to the idea that really anybody would take up this invitation and go to meet the president, regardless of who the president is. And I think what we're falling for here is people who just like to go after Trump. They have TDS syndrome. If this was another president under another administration, we wouldn't be hearing about any of this. The joke, the invitations, the State of the Union.

1:32:38But because it's Donald Trump, it sort of taints everything that happens surrounding our sports, surrounding the celebration of the U.S., surrounding being a U.S. citizen. This guy did nothing wrong, and obviously so. And now you have the American journalist, just as bad, Avita, just as bad. The new CBS, completely revamped now, right? They're going to be more in fair and balanced now under the new leadership. You tell me. Here's SOT19 on their morning show Thursday, today, CBS Morning. OK, moving on to the members of the U.S. hockey team. They're talking now about President Trump's joke that did not land well for some.

1:33:14The men's team visited the White House Tuesday after an invite from the president In a phone call to the U.S. locker room after Sunday's final game, the president seemed to put down the U.S. women's team, which had also won gold. All right. So the men are taking some heat for laughing along with the president at that joke. The expense of the women's hockey team. Jack Hughes says people are making something out of nothing and both teams support each other. The majority of the U.S. men's team, of course, attended the State of the Union earlier this week. The women were invited. They declined. I could see why the women are being I could see why they're offended by it.

1:33:50Oh, of course, Gayle King would like you to know they have every right, Avita. You know, at one point, so I believe that there is a lot of TDS happening right now. But I think there's just an overwhelming sense of hatred of America. I just saw a Gallup poll. It's 92 percent of Republicans are proud to be American. Only 38 percent of Democrats. I mean, the disconnect that we have as a country politically, it's not just that they don't like this president. It seems like they hate our country. And we have it, you know, from outside our country, too, obviously, with Canada and other foreign entities who don't love America.

1:34:27But when you have it in your own house, it starts to become kind of pathological. You start to realize we have a real sickness. And this is coming from all of our institutions. This is why the Trump administration is constantly trying to create reforms. And it's in our education system, in corporate media. I mean, it's become a massive, massive cancer in our society. Yes, it's really there's a rot. And that's why they see racism in everything. They see bigotry in everything. Just quickly, here's Representative Maxine Dexter. She's a Democrat from Oregon. On the latest finding of racism where it doesn't exist, SOT 58.

1:35:05please ask for the science-based regimens, not whatever RFK Jr. is getting kickbacks on or whatever whole milk, white supremacy, dog whistling that's happening right now. I'm getting a little too political, but... I'm pretty sure she said whole milk is white supremacy. Avila, who knew? I didn't know. I've been drinking whole milk. I haven't become a white supremacist yet. I guess that's part of the problem. It's just so crazy. I mean, we've heard the left say before that things like working out and going to the gym regularly are extensions of white supremacy. We saw the Smithsonian - Being on time.

1:35:50Yes, being on time, saying, being polite, believing in any sort of time schedule, having a nuclear family. These things are white supremacy. You could go through a list of just about anything, throw it at a leftist, and I think they would find some way to make it racist. to make it something that is indicative of you being a member of the KKK. And they'll ignore the glaring issues that exist in our society. Our childhood obesity rate, the fact that kids are lacking in vitamins and nutrients that they can get from whole milk. Can we focus on the issue or do we have to make everything about white supremacy?

1:36:22And truly, pay attention. We've redone the food pyramid. We are not looking at saturated fat the way we used to. Just do a little reading, madam. We're going to talk about Zoran Mamdani, his absurd behavior in response to just a snowball fight. It was just a snowball fight in the park by kids, which is such a lie. There were, it was all grown men and some women pelting cops with ice balls, with snowballs and with snowballs that had rocks in them too, I later found out. And so Zoram Mamdani refuses to just acknowledge what we all saw with our own eyes. And now he's doubling down on it. Here's a little bit more.

1:37:01Well, he was pressed on Wednesday about like some cops went to the hospital like they were bleeding. They had lacerations on their face like you're really dismissing this too, too easily and too lightly. And here's that. And so at 56. If the NYPD investigates and the D.A. decides it's criminal, are you going to seek to intervene? I've said that what I saw was a snowball fight. It should be treated accordingly. It was one that got out of hand, but that's what it was. So, Mr. Mayor, are you willing to revise your statement regarding the snowball fight, Given that this was not exactly a friendly back and forth snowball fight, the police that were there were not throwing any snowballs.

1:37:36They were getting pelted themselves. And number two, have you considered or would you consider banning these crowdsourcing events because they can and sometimes do get out of hand? I'm not going to be banning snowball fights or organized snowball fights. I've shared my thoughts with New Yorkers. He doesn't seem to care what happened to these cops, Evita. Well, it gives me a lot of PTSD from when I lived in Chicago during BLM, the summer of rage 2020. And you saw the cops just continuously harassed, continuously treated like absolute dirt, not supported by Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who was in charge at the time.

1:38:21And they quit en masse. And when they quit en masse, the entire city became far less safe. It became a hellscape. I had classmates of mine at the University of Chicago literally die. They were shot on public transit. Kids pistol whipped on their way to and from class, robbed. I mean, it was horrific. So what you're asking for is a deeply unsafe New York City when you demoralize cops in the way Mom Donnie is. He's telling them, I'm not on your side. I don't have your back. when he does nothing as they're being brazenly attacked by radical leftists. And I feel like there's something really, I think, overall demoralizing about a mom-domming New York, about a left-wing New York.

1:39:02I mean, we take down statues of Teddy Roosevelt. We erect 12-foot statues of, you know, overweight black women in Times Square. We get trash on the street. Everything smells like weed. Everything smells like urine. It feels intentional. It feels purposely humiliating and demoralizing. And here is, take a look at the man who just did get arrested for this because the cops are not listening to Zoran Mamdani. They are arresting the people who did this. And they found this guy, Ghazmine Kolobali, 27, for assault. And look at the size of this person. This is a grown-ass man. This is not a, quote, kid, Zoran.

1:39:37And somebody ought to throw one of these things at him, see how he likes it if he doesn't consider it an assault. Just kidding. They shouldn't do that. But I just it's like easy for him to say, oh, it's just kids throwing snowballs. And these guys are in the ER getting their wounds treated. OK, we've got to talk about Fresno, California, which is jumped the shark running for city council out there. Someone by the name of Renee Campos, no relation, who is a registered sex offender. Listen to this. I believe Fresno deserves the leaders that are honest from the very beginning. not the end. So going into this, I'm putting my life out there.

1:40:17I've been given the chance to rehabilitate through the courts and back into the system. Let's choose somebody outside the box, somebody who knows the system from inside out. Because me, I've experienced the laws that we are trying to reform right now. He's outside the box. All right, Amala. Yeah, I think we can go in other directions. If we're looking for outside the box city council members, I would not be voting or supporting in this direction. It's kind of outlandish, but we're having a lot of conversations right now about maps, minor attracted persons, and calling things like pedophilia a disorder rather than a crime.

1:40:55So I'm not at all surprised that a place like Fresno, California would have an individual like this trying to vie for a position in city council. At the very least, I guess at least they're being open about their registry on the sex offender list so that we can avoid. I mean, he was charged with being in possession of child sex abuse material in 2018, Evita. I mean, this is a few years ago. He was looking at child pornography. Well, I mean, the left does this all the time. There was a while ago that Vice did a documentary on sex offenders, and the journalist who actually was trying to say, oh, look, they're not so bad.

1:41:34They're just minor attracted persons. She ended up actually being harassed by one of these sex offenders who sent her a nude photo. So, I mean, this is just, this is classic left-wing behavior. And it's very dumb. And I hope that they elect him because then they'll see what it's like. Oh my God. I mean, I'd like to think that even in the People's Republic of California, they're going to say no to a registered sex offender. I mean, good luck. Like you elevate somebody like this. And then before you know it, they use that position because let's face it, you don't outgrow your desire to look at child sex abuse material.

1:42:05So that guy's, there's zero point in putting him in a position of power. I think it's a him. To be honest, not entirely clear. Couldn't tell. Amla Evita, thank you both so much. Great to see you. And we'll see you again soon, I hope. Thanks, Mike. All right. We're back tomorrow with Mike Benz for the first time on the show. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.