What Got CUT From CBS' Netanyahu Interview, Plus Spencer Pratt's Secret Ingredient, with Michael Knowles | Ep. 1314

26:53I mean, what's interesting is there was no follow-up about what Israel actually is doing, what it actually is doing here in America, which I'll get to in one second, but they are. It's interesting to me because I talked to Charlie Kirk about this. You know, he and I were on the same trajectory on Israel, very, very ardently pro. and Charlie was in a different situation than I was because he had a lot of Israeli donors and very prominent Jewish donors to Turning Point and so kind of felt financially beholden to folks who shared that view and may have given him money because he shared it. I thank God, don't have that problem.

27:35Nobody owns me. I take, the only people I take money from, you know about Cozy Earth, love them. Like all my advertisers, that's the only one that they pay money to get their ads on this show. And that's it. Obviously, Sirius XM pays me to license the broadcast, but no special interests like this. Okay. And I've been offered money. I have been offered money by very pro-Israeli. And when I was very pro-Israeli, you know, two years ago, and I always said no, because I just, I understood that it could compromise me as a journalist. I didn't want that to happen. I don't like anybody having me by a leash.

28:13But in any event, Charlie and I talked openly about how Israel was very bad at the propaganda war, about how the Palestinians were so much better at propaganda than Israel. And the thing that he and I discussed Israel needed to do was to get its own Caroline Levitt to be out there every day. And Charlie said, for example, why should I be out there? doing this? Why should it be me and you, Megan? Excuse me. I need some water.

28:47Why should it be us? Why don't they have their own Caroline Levitt or Admiral Kirby, who's out there setting the record straight? Well, they went a different way. They joined the likes of the propagandists and those engaged in the business of personal destruction of their critics. So we'll talk about that in a second. Okay. But back to the broadcast last night. These two moments from the last two soundbites, they were shortened. They were combined as if they happened back to back, you know, with the phone. Now, they didn't include the comment about how Israel will be fighting back. They teased that they will use the same tactics to fight fire with fire on the social media front.

29:29Well, they're doing it. Okay, they're doing that. BB said it several times throughout the full interview, but none of that made the broadcast version. So why didn't that go in there? Why? There were also several references by Netanyahu to the Americans turning against Israel, saying that they also hate America. Oh, they do? Okay. So according to Netanyahu, if you are against Israel and its tactics militarily, you hate your own country here in America. You hate America. This is a talking point we've seen from the prominent pro-Israel media voices in the past few weeks, it seems to be like a new favorite.

30:06All of those references were cut from the broadcast version of the interview. Why? Why did Barry Weiss and her CBS cut from the interview of Netanyahu all the references by Netanyahu attacking Americans who have questions about Israel as anti-American? Is it possible they believed that might make him look bad and further alienate Americans? I mean, I think there's a level of protection being run now on a foreign leader that's just obvious. It's as plain as the nose on your face. And you have to ask yourself why and whether we're allowing this. Because let me tell you, if I had Netanyahu sitting here and he made those claims, I would absolutely follow up with questions, for example, about his own explicit statements last August or September saying Israel was going to get in this game.

31:05And then Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL that was formed allegedly here to fight anti-Semitism. And he addressed the Knesset right around that same time frame and made really clear what he expected next in this information war. Here's what he said. But we need the kind of genius that manufactured Apollo gold pagers and infiltrated Hezbollah for over a decade to prepare for this battle. We need the kind of courage that executed Operation Deep Layer inside Syria and destroyed Iranian missile manufacturing capabilities to undertake this mission. This is the kind of ingenuity and inventiveness that have always been a hallmark of the state of Israel, that have always been a characteristic of the Jewish people.

31:49I know we can do it. OK, you know, you know that we can do it. OK, well, how about Netanyahu? What specifically has he said? Listen to this one. We're going to have to use the tools of battle. You know, the weapons change over time. You can't fight today with swords. That doesn't work very well. and you can't fight with cavalry that doesn't work very well and you have these new things like drones, things like that I won't get into that but we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged and the most important ones are the social media and the most important purchase that is going on right now is class followers TikTok TikTok, number one number one And I hope it goes through because it can be consequential.

32:44And the other one, what's the other one that's most important? X. X. Successful. Very good. And, you know, so we have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. Great. So there it is. He's been very explicit about what he's about to do. And then we know about at least some of it. Okay. We know that Israel, thanks to an effort called Project Esther, paid a bunch of social media influencers approximately$7 ,000 per post pro-Israel or against its attackers in an effort to, quote, fight anti-Semitism. I've said this before. I've gotten attacked by many on social media as making things up.

33:31Sorry if you weren't smart enough to get paid for your tweets, folks, but it's true. It's absolutely true. It was first broken by Responsible Statecraft, which is an online magazine of the Quincy Institute. They advocate restraint in foreign policy, and they documented the fact in September that Israel was paying influencers$7 ,000 per post. They write, in a meeting dedicated to harnessing pro-Israeli media energy on Friday, the Prime Minister Netanyahu alluded to a cohort of Israel's influencers. We do have to fight back. How do we fight back? Our influencers. I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that community.

34:14They're very important. Being paid by Israel to post on social media is also very lucrative, they write. According to previously unreported recent documents, these influencers are likely being paid around$7 ,000 per post on social media, such as TikTok, Instagram, et cetera, on behalf of Israel. Bridges Partners, a firm working for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, sent a series of invoices for its influencer campaign to Havas Media Group Germany, an international media group working for Israel. Very interesting. A group in Germany working for Israel, Germany. I may be coming back to that in days to come, and I'll explain why then.

34:59The invoices detail a sum of$900 ,000 starting in June and slated to end in November for a cohort of 14 to 18 influencers to create content. They had to disclose this because this group had to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and they noted in it that the funding is for payments for influencers and production. So we don't know exactly what the number was or exactly who the influencers were, or even whether this is the only such program. But it is absolutely true that Israel was paying thousands of dollars per post to several influencers to attack those perceived as dangers to Israel or enemies of the Israeli state or Netanyahu, and to promote stories about Israel that reflected well on it.

35:52It was called Project Esther. In addition, by the way, this same publication, Responsible Statecraft, broke the news, which is also true that Brad Parscale, who is senior executive at Salem Media and has his own AI company, had to register as a foreign agent for Israel. Same situation. This is from The Hill, September 30th, 2025. Does that date sound familiar? It's all happening. It was the Unleashed last September. Pascal, this is according to The Hill, Pascal has registered as a foreign agent for Israel, hired to create digital campaigns combating anti-Semitism in a contract worth$6 million.

36:36By the way, I've also read it's nine, nine million. According to his contract, his company is hired to create content where at least 80 % is tailored to Gen Z audiences across platforms, including TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, podcasts, and other relevant digital and broadcast outlets. Axios also reporting that Parscale, a top eight on President Trump's first two campaigns, registered as a foreign agent to work on Israel's behalf and create digital media combating anti-Semitism. Now, I know Parscale personally, and I have had long discussions with him about what his AI can do. And let me tell you, it's substantial.

37:18This is before he decided to become a foreign agent for Israel. And when he thought that I was completely in Israel's corner and not Israel skeptical, and I was, I used to be. Honestly, it's like they have their own bad behavior to thank for losing me. And Netanyahu's paranoia about like, oh, social media, they get on there and like people from, you know, some third world country are on there saying, I live in Texas and I've turned on Israel and it's all BS propaganda. That's Israel's claim. That's not at all what changed my views. Not at all. It was, I literally made a speculative comment about whether Epstein might've been an asset for Israeli intelligence and immediately got called an anti-Semite, as did Charlie Kirk.

38:06He and I were part of the conversation. That's what led in part to our conversation one month before he was murdered about how annoyed we were and how quickly the pressure campaign began on us both and the name calling using that term simply in response to speculation about Epstein. It was crazy. Charlie was angry about what was being done to him. And I was too. And I firmly believe he would have been on the same trajectory I have been on because the name calling against me only got worse. The demands of me only got worse. Sometimes proxies were put in, you have to say this or you're an anti-Semite or you have to say that or you're an anti-Semite.

38:50I've refused all along as I know Charlie would have because he was a free speech advocate, very much so, and would never have bent the knee to these bullies, whether it's BLM or the ADL. And on and on it went. It's gotten worse and worse and worse. And then Israel got us into yet another damn war. Yet another damn war. So people in the United States who are having some negative feelings toward not the Israeli people who we love and have a lot in common with. But their government have every reason to feel that way. And it's not because of fucking TikTok, okay? Like, honestly, I want to read this guy, the poem that Dr.

39:37Ben Carson loves, right? By Mamie Waite about yourself to blame. Is it Mamie Waite Brown? I'm trying to remember her exact last name. It's amazing. I've read it on the air before that basically every refrain ends with, you have yourself to blame. Look inward. That's what the Miller is the last name. Look inward. Those words are actually in the poem. Look inward. It's crazy to me that he's spending time lamenting how it's really totally social media. I think what's happened here is Israel's behaved badly in a number of ways, extremely confrontationally, and in a way that's actually gotten us into a war now.

40:20And that's what's led people, that plus what they did in Gaza. And honestly, he's worried about like the social media campaign about Gaza. That's another thing that didn't work on me, sir. It wasn't any social media campaign about Gaza. I tried to defend you on Gaza as long as humanly possible, but the thirst for bloodlust over there was a little too much. It went on for years, every day. were all the dead children propaganda by Palestine? I don't think so. Then you started it again in Lebanon. That wasn't TikTok that made me believe that. I don't even fucking have TikTok, okay? It's not even on my phone.

40:58And X is heavily dominated by the pro-Israel crowd. X is not an anti-Israel forum at all. So what are you talking about? My personal Instagram has basically videos of that lady who does all the stuff on the 80s and what it's like to be a Gen Xer, fashion tips, and other great lifestyle and Maha type content. I don't use Instagram for politics. I don't follow many political people on there. I don't even follow many news people on there. So I didn't get any of my viewpoints from these social media platforms you're so worried about. Okay, I got them from news sources and from your obvious attacks on yours truly, on my dear friend Charlie Kirk, and on some other friends of mine.

41:46So this campaign remains ongoing. And I will say this just while I have you. I am so grateful to all of you for continuing to tune into the show and not allowing this attempted destruction to occur. I love reading the comments and the emails from all of you who say you see what they're doing. I knew that. I mean, you're too savvy not to. But yeah, it's a lot. And to hear him play the victim is pretty galling. Okay, sure, sir, sure. You're many things. The victim's not one of them. All right, coming up next, we've got a lot of other news to discuss. Michael Knowles will be here to do it. Don't go away.

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44:43here's what he what he said watch for the time being the ceasefire remains in place you know it's unbelievably weak i would say i would call it the weakest right now after reading that piece of garbage they sent us i didn't even finish reading it they said i'm gonna waste my time reading it i would say it's one of the weakest right now it's on life support they understand Yeah, these are all medical people. Dr. Oz, life support is not a good thing. Do you agree? I would say the ceasefire is on massive life support where the doctor walks in and says, sir, your loved one has approximately a 1 % chance of living.

45:29That kind of brings it home. Just for those listening at home, apparently the response, this is for the Wall Street Journal, hasn't been made public yet, but it doesn't speak to our demand for commitments on the fate of Iran's nuclear program or its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. Instead, reports the journal, Iran proposes an end to the fighting and a gradual opening of the Strait of Hormuz. Then they punt the nuclear issues to getting negotiated over the next 30 days. And they do offer some sort of a proposal on the highly enriched uranium and having it diluted and possibly transferred, but apparently not to satisfy Trump or really feel that our proposal was directly addressed.

46:21You know, the problem we have now is that more and more, this is Bloomberg reporting this too, that the president's not that interested in the war anymore. He wants it to go away, but we can't really make it go away without reopening that strait. That's for damn sure, which was, it was reopened before, it was opened before we launched this war. But whatever that may be, Michael, we can't end it without that thing coming back open. And the Iranians know they have a pretty powerful card. Yeah, I love President Trump's vivid language, typically graphic. He's describing the life support of the ceasefire.

46:58But then what does that mean? For the ceasefire to disappear either means you're going to have a negotiated end to the war, actually put an end to hostilities, or you're going to have an escalation again. And unfortunately, this is an area where I, you know how much I hate to say I told you so on any number of political issues, but this was always my fear before the Iran war. and while it was being launched, you had a lot of people celebrating, you know, waiting for, I don't know, freedom parades in Iran and a pro-Western return of the Shah or something like that. I never really thought that was going to happen.

47:31And really what I assumed was at the end, you'd either end up with a deal you don't want or a massive military operation that would be politically unsellable at home. So there were really no good options. I know some people make the claim that war in Iran would be unjust, that the regime doesn't deserve it or something like that. I never thought that. We've been in hostilities with Iran for 50 years. But the problem is in order to establish a just war, you need to have a reasonable probability of success, which means you have to know exactly what your objective is. Is the objective just to get rid of the nuclear program?

48:05Is it to set back the nuclear program? Is it regime change as many people wanted from the beginning? So you need a reasonable probability of success, which I don't think we're really going to have, at least on the regime change front. Don't forget the mullahs, for all their wickedness and sins, lasted twice as long in power as the CIA regime that we helped to promote in 1953 with the CIA coup that helped get rid of Mossadegh and ensconce the Shah. So I thought the mullahs are a lot tougher than people give them credit for. And then the other thing that you need is proportionality, that the goods to be achieved are going to outweigh the losses incurred.

48:37And there too, it's just, it's a real country. These guys are really tough. They're a very evil regime. So they're willing to, to use all the sorts of tricks at their disposal. And on the, on the American front, people have PTSD from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. So they don't want a protracted military engagement. They don't want a ton of boots on the ground. So it's, it's a brutal kind of quagmire. The one thing I would say for president Trump's position here, trying to negotiate a way out of this thing is that many of our toughest presidents, not just many American presidents, but even some of our toughest presidents on matters of war and peace actually took the more dovish side.

49:18So you think of Ronald Reagan famously, and this one involves Iran after the Beirut barracks bombings. Reagan did not directly retaliate. He actually pulled the troops out of Lebanon. You think of Truman being reserved on war with China. You think of Eisenhower and Kennedy being more reserved on war with Vietnam. So, you know, I don't think that Trump is in an impossible situation here. He's in a brutal situation. He's in a very difficult situation. There's no real win available to him. So to your point, Megan, the reporting that says he's kind of sick of the war in Iran. Yeah, I get it. That's a big threat to the Republicans right now, even as we've got a lot of structural wins thanks to the courts, thanks to redistricting.

49:56So any way to wind this thing down, I think, is probably the right thing to do, because the probability of ousting that regime under current political conditions, I think, is basically zero. Yeah, I totally agree with all that. Like, let's just get out. It's not going to be graceful. It's not going to look so great. President Trump's a great salesman. He can probably sell it as a win no matter what. Whether it is or it isn't, honestly, almost doesn't even matter at this point. It's like we have our own problems to worry about, including now political ones for the GOP that definitely need care and feeding.

50:32So let's let's just go whatever. I know that they control the strait. It's very complicated. But like New York Times reported last Monday that these Revolutionary Guard guys actually are somewhat mercenary, like money may speak to them. It may not just be this theocratic, you know, Allah type motivated action. And so if that's true, President Trump talks money. He knows how to deal with people who like money. And maybe we can set up some deal. Like, we don't really get our oil out of the strait. I realize the whole global economy is dependent, but like, maybe we can set up some deal where they do get some money out of the strait because now they've discovered that tool and we get out of there.

51:12I don't see any other way other than giving them something to make them want to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, which is what we really want at this point. Right now, you've done a lot of damage. That's great. You have these three options, which is either you just take a bad deal or you invade Iran, which nobody really wants to do. Or you could just keep the status quo, which is what the president has been doing, though he's signaling that's probably coming to an end, which is Iran launches its blockade to hold hostage 20 percent of the world's oil and natural gas and fertilizer and petrochemicals and all this other stuff.

51:46So you're basically holding the global economy hostage. and then Trump does the reverse UNO car double blockade where he says, okay, well, we're gonna starve you and we're gonna stop you from exporting your oil. And then it just becomes this game of chicken. What's gonna happen first, a global recession or are the Iranian oil pipes bursting? And that's a very, very dangerous game, especially in a midterm year. Exactly right, because they're gonna start, they'll do what they did that led to the ceasefire, which is they'll attack Qatar. They'll attack all of our Arab allies and their energy infrastructure, which will only hurt the global economy even more in addition to those allies of ours.

52:21And then President Trump will be scared because we cannot have a global recession. We certainly can't have an American one. OK, stand by. We're going to turn the page from Iran and discuss those Republican redistricting wins and Spencer Pratt when we come back. Paying 70, 80, 90 dollars a month to big wireless for unlimited data is insanity, especially when Pure Talk is going to give you unlimited high speed data for just 34 bucks a month. $34.99. Unlimited high-speed data at Pure Talk used to start at$55 a month, but because Pure Talk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high-speed data for just under$35.

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53:47Michael Knowles, host of The Michael Knowles Show, is back with me now. Michael, something funny that my team just gave me. So this morning, our AM update, you know, our little morning news headline show, it's only 16 or so minutes. It was tracked last night, not by yours truly, but by my children, my three kids, as they did last Mother's Day as a gift, as a Mother's Day gift to yours truly. They took on the hard work of actually getting the tracking done. I was there, I confess, and it was actually super fun and enjoyable to watch them do it. This is the second time they've done it. They did it last Mother's Day as well, and my team put together a little one-minute, is it the highlight reel of some of the outtakes?

54:29They did a great job, but it's always fun to hear the stumbles, and here are a few of them. Three, two, one, go. Good morning, everyone. I'm Thatcher. I'm Yates. And I'm Yardley. And this is a special Mother's Day edition of AM Update, where we're giving our mom the day off. Now, start out, you just screwed one of those words up. It's okay. With the candidate hammering city leaders, oh, shoot. Uh, where should I pick up from? The only type that can spread person to person, though, close through person. I'm confused on what I'm saying here. The Pentagon releasing a trove of declassified materials on Friday related to the unidentified anomalous phenomena.

55:15The unidentified anomalous phenomena. Phenomena. Unidentified anomalous phenomena. Unidentified anomalous phenomena. An early April poll from UCLA's Luskin School of... This is annoying. I'm so much worse than you. You're doing so much better than you. How do you do this every day? Thank you, everyone. Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. Thanks. Have a great day.

55:45Megan, I know they stumbled over a few words here and there, but your children are much better at articulating the English language than many members of Congress. so I would not let that discourage them at all. That's great. Also, you can hear at the top, Megan, your children's names, which is giving me intense wasp name envy because the Knowles line, they're very waspy. I mean, I've got a lot. I've got like Clarences and Basil kind of, and for my fourth kid coming out, I got to get a little more American, a little more English about this. Yes. Are you expecting another child? We are, yes. It's another speech.

56:24So happy Mother's Day to you and to my poor beleaguered wife with our three and a half children. Three that she's juggling all at once and then one of them half cooking as we speak. Congrats. That's great news. Yes, I know the names. We take a lot of guff for them because a lot of people do not like the unusual names, but they're great. They came by them. Honestly, Yates is named after Doug's dad, whose name was Manly Yates Brunt. And so we didn't want to go with Manly, but we liked Yates and my dad, too. His full name is Edward Yates. And then when you have a kid named Yates, you know, you can't go with like Ann for your next kid.

57:01So anyway, Yardley, I'm pretty sure is named after a very fat bald man in the movie Christmas in Connecticut, Alexander Yardley, which I had seen. And like shortly after I saw it, I was like, I've got it. It's Yardley. And so she knows she's named after a very fat old bald man in the newspaper business, though. So that's good. I'm sure she loves that. Magazine at least. Yeah. And then along came Thatcher. But yeah, my nana, God love her, she lived to 101. She said, they have to live with those names. She was not. Dear ex, I am calling to all of the many, many listeners. I am calling for a resurgence, a revival of good, solid, waspy American names.

57:40This is a great, and I might be the first one to follow suit, frankly, when our nuclear arrives. Yes. I've got some suggestions for you. I remember there was one family name on Doug's side for our daughter that we quickly rejected, but it was old school. A lot of people like to name their kids old school names. Parthenia. Parthenia. Parthenia. That's my middle name. How would you like that? Parthenia Brunt. Oh, my God. You're asking to get beaten up. Parthenia. I love it. I love it. That's beautiful. Obviously, with demographic change, mass migration, a lot of names come and go. In the UK now, nine out of ten kids is Mohammed, basically.

58:20We talk about all the ways we got to restrict migration, sure. We got to increase the birth rate. But if we could just name a whole generation of Parthenias, that would go a long way to preserving the culture. I just love it. It's true. We might be back on track. You raise a good point. All right. And speaking of getting back on track, let's talk about this wonderful redistricting win out of the Commonwealth of Virginia. So they tried to get two cube by half down there and go from a 6-5 split Dems Republicans on their districts within the Commonwealth of Virginia and change it to a 10 to 1 Democrat advantage.

58:56And they did this by a ballot initiative that did not make at all clear to the voters what they were voting on. You know, it used sort of flowery language that made it sound like, do you favor democracy? And sure enough, they did. And before they knew it, their entire state, which is almost half Republicans, was their districts were wiped out. They ensured almost entire Democrat rule for years to come. The Republicans filed a lawsuit saying that's bullshit. They didn't follow the proper procedures in order to get something like that passed. And the high court in Virginia, Virginia's highest court, agreed and really gave it to the Democrats.

59:36on this obvious, nasty procedural maneuvering, saying you've completely violated the law, this will not stand. And now there is a serious discussion going amongst some Democrats about whether they should immediately pass a new law limiting those who can be eligible for the state's highest court to anyone under age 54, which would make all of the current justices ineligible and would lead to them losing their seats right away, at which point the theory is, the game plan, is to then replace them, I think it's seven of them, with new judges who promise in advance that they will overrule the decision the court just handed down and find the opposite way upholding this new scheme, which would completely invalidate the state's judiciary forever.

1:00:38It will it they will lose all legitimacy if they do this. It is one of, if not the most extreme things I've ever heard someone say about how to respond to a judicial decision one does not like. and yet it's reportedly being seriously considered by Virginia Democrats in the wake of this devastating blow to their plan. Your thoughts? Well, this is not anything new for the Democrat playbook. This goes back some 80, 90 years now. Franklin Roosevelt, when his New Deal programs were being struck down as unconstitutional ad infinitum, decided that he was just going to blow up the Supreme Court and he was going to rearrange it such that he would have a rubber stamp.

1:01:17And the only reason he didn't follow through with that, in fact, was because one of the justices decided to flip at the last minute to try to preserve something like the integrity of the Supreme Court. So they call it the switch in time that saves nine. But Democrats have wanted to do this for a long time. They threatened to do it at the federal level. So there's no surprise. Now, the downside for them is I think people see through it. Coincidentally, I was just up last week at Dartmouth. I was debating the left wing pundit Mehdi Hassan over whether or not Trump has upheld the Constitution. And this is Dartmouth.

1:01:49This is a liberal Ivy League campus, obviously overwhelmingly hates Trump. But what was very interesting is this was a formal debate. So you could see who objectively won and lost. And even at this very liberal campus, there was a six point swing. Happy to say I won the debate, even though Medi wrote a book called How to Win Every Debate. Very happy to say, well, there'll be a new edition, How to Win Every Debate Except Against Michael. But even beyond, it's not that I had such stunning rhetoric or anything like that. It's just very simple. I bet it is. Everybody knows that Trump has upheld the Constitution and people recognize that today at the state level and at the federal level, the great threats to the constitutional order come from the Democrats.

1:02:30I mean, here they're talking about essentially throwing out the Supreme Court in Virginia. But what's so stunning is that the Democrats are getting knocked down on constitutional points every which way. I think a lot of people are going to be confused. They're going to think that the reason the redistricting in Virginia has gone down is because of the U.S. Supreme Court decision, Louisiana versus Calais, which said the Democrats can no longer racially discriminate in their gerrymandering, that that was a violation of the 14th Amendment. But no, this is actually different. The Democrats are getting struck down on their redistricting on multiple fronts at the federal level, at the state level.

1:03:05And all of this, Megan, brings back a memory to me. about two months ago, I was interviewing the House Speaker, Mike Johnson. And I said, you know, hey, Mr. Speaker, things are looking pretty bad for the midterms, huh? And he looks at me, he says, Michael, looks me dead in the eye. He says, Michael, I think we're going to grow the majority in the midterms. I said, well, what's in your coffee? Hold on. Can I have a sip of that? I don't know if you smoked something before this interview, but you know, he said, look to me dead in the eye. He says, I think we're going to grow the majority. And I said, well, I like the enthusiasm.

1:03:34I like the optimism, but I don't know. I don't if I agree with that. Now that we are looking, because of the Virginia Supreme Court decision, the U.S. Supreme Court decision, redistricting going on around the country, we are looking at a potential gain of 14 congressional seats for Republicans. I'm now thinking that House Speaker Mike Johnson is Babe Ruth calling his shot to center field. If this actually works out for Republicans, it's a big if. But if it does, that will be the greatest political call in the history of the U.S. Congress. I'm counting here because you've got, okay, yeah, yeah, 14.

1:04:08You have five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 14. Yes. And Democrats look like they're going to gain six seats from redistricting, which, you know, according to my math is less than 14. So that's good. At least even I can do that. However, the problem is, the question is, how big right will the swing likely be to democrats i think most non-republican speaker people think the democrats are going to pick up seats because the party out of power almost always does and because of the poll numbers surrounding everything trump is doing right now unfortunately the president's numbers i mean across the board are in the bottom third i mean they're just really bad.

1:04:55Yeah, it's rough. And especially just as a political reality, we were talking about the Iran war. I mean, that's the that's the big wild card. But, you know, the point that the Democrats can make is that the president's poll numbers and the GOP's poll numbers are quite bad right now. The point the Republicans can make is that's true. But Democrats are also historically unpopular right now, which is how you might get. I don't know. People are talking about a potential upset in the L.A. mayor's race. I'm pretty skeptical of that. But both parties are looking very, very bad. And then you have the wild card of the Iran war, which is that if the war continues to drag on and we have a recession or we just have surging gas prices or we right now housing is looking very shaky and obviously you get a lot of inflation the longer that the straight remains closed.

1:05:40All of that could have a very, very acute effect on the midterm elections. Frankly, that is what the Iranians are counting on. That's probably the chief aspect of their political strategy right now. And then what the Trump administration's counting on is that Iran just implodes before that happens. So that's that very dangerous game. But I agree with you. I mean, by all historical precedent, Republicans should be probably blown out of the water in the midterms. Whether or not these decisions from the courts can help to stop the tide, obviously that remains to be seen. Yeah, I mean, that certainly stems some of the bleeding.

1:06:17But as I pointed out earlier, in 2018, that was Trump's first term, his first midterms, the Republicans lost 40 seats. Now, we also, I don't know, we expected a big Republican wave during President Biden's midterms. Remember in the middle of his term in 2022? And I remember talking to you that night and we didn't get it. The Republicans did take control of the House, but it was really slim. You know, they barely they barely had the margin. And that slim margin has been relevant ever since. So it's like maybe that same dynamic will kick in here and save the Republicans to where like people are what they are and they don't really flip around in their partisan voting anymore.

1:07:06And it's like, you know, I view it like, OK, so these people voted for Trump and they weren't all Republicans. It's like getting married and like your wife is like a size four and she's young and she's got the flaxen hair and the flowing dress and she makes you all your meals in the beginning. And then a couple of years into it, like she's gained a hundred pounds and she just sits on the couch all day and watches shows. The kids are unkempt and you never get a drink brought to you, nevermind a meal made. And you're like, there's a hot, sexy lady at the office paying me attention. But then you get a little closer and the hot, sexy, lazy at the office is crazy.

1:07:43She wants to cut the penises off of your children. She wants to let millions of people into your home to take your job. You're like, eh, you know what? My original choice isn't looking so bad. So we're lucky over here on Team Sanity that the left is so nuts and it could save us. I certainly hope so. I hope that we have the discipline that when we lecherously show up to the office water cooler and stand over the desk of that beautiful looking woman who looks suspiciously like a mixture of Gavin Newsom and AOC, that we recognize it is not worth it. It is not. She's going to chop it off. It's not worth it.

1:08:25As you said, I agree. And yes, you do actually see that reflected in some of the polls. I mean, obviously, the admin has taken a hit, but the Democrats are looking really, really bad. There was that op-ed in The New York Times just published yesterday, I think it was, maybe today, that said that Democrats need to stop talking about climate change, which was their existential, fundamentally religious issue for decades at this point. I mean, AOC made her career on the Green New Deal. Al Gore made his career on that PowerPoint movie. And the Democrats have been talking about this since 1972. Now they're saying, pull the plug on that.

1:09:00They're obviously trying to downplay the trans issue. Unsuccessfully, though, because they haven't changed their opinions at all. They're trying to downplay their support for open borders. They can't really even hide that. So we are lucky that the Democrat strategy, they told us this months ago, was they're going to run like Abigail Spanberger in Virginia. Abigail Spanberger, who pretended to be a moderate and then immediately upon taking office, gave us the most left-wing agenda we'd ever seen in Virginia. The problem with that is we've now seen how it plays out. And so when you push these people even a little bit, you saw it in the California governor debate.

1:09:32You saw it in the L.A. mayor debate. When you ask them on any of these issues, do you want to give welfare to illegals? Do you want to just open up the borders to your country? They all say yes. They can't help it. And I mean, I always say the Republican Party is the worst party in the United States other than the Democrats. That's exactly it. That's what they have to bank on. And it'll be interesting this month as Jerome Powell steps down from the Fed and we have his replacement come into power, you know, because I think Trump thinks the new guy will be more, you know, someone who can work with him on interest rates to try to get the economy going.

1:10:10But of course, the reason that Powell doesn't want to lower interest rates is he's still worried about inflation. Trump doesn't think that's a problem. But as inflation starts to gear up again as a result of this oil problem or having this energy issue, I wonder whether the new guy will be inclined to lower interest rates. You know what I mean? Because inflation is more relevant right now than it was two months ago. That'll be an interesting thing to watch as we go into the summer. And, yeah, the Democrats have a lot. They have a lot on their plate that they have to deal with, too. We'll see. Only the electorate can tell us its mood, and we'll find out in about six months.

1:10:46You know, nothing drives inflation as reliably as energy, obviously. And this is just one of these points that when you zoom out from the historical perspective, I think this is what caused a lot of skepticism on the Iran war is, you know, the way President Trump talks about it, I think he's totally sincere. I think he viewed this as a digression because it met his non-negotiable line, which is we can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. And, you know, reasonable minds might disagree about how close Iran was to a nuclear weapon. But he said, look, that's satisfied my criterion. So we're going to go there.

1:11:17But it's just going to be a little digression. Don't worry about it. We're going to put it in a compartment over here. And then we're going to get back to our agenda. And the problem, especially when it comes to war, but really with any geopolitical event is, you can't just compartmentalize it. All of a sudden, there's so many externalities. There's so many unintended consequences that, yes, to your point, Megan, You might even be getting into issues with the Fed because even if they were inclined to cut rates, maybe now gas prices, oil is driving inflation up a little too much because it raises the cost of any good that's shipped.

1:11:48And all of a sudden now that has an effect on housing and all, you know, these things spin out of control. This is one reason that we conservatives are a little shyer about wielding the government than the left is the left thinks they can control everything in society. And really you can't. Yeah. Well, AOC, you mentioned her. She has Green New Deal. That was her big thing. She also had pronouns in her Twitter bio, which have been removed. So those are two small victories as, you know, her green energy push gets demolished by her own party and she's taken out the pronouns. But she's on to a new thing, which she stole from Bernie Sanders.

1:12:27And here's, well, it's a bunch of disinformation, but it also gives you the highlight of where she's going. Stop 23. The American Revolution was against the billionaires of their time. And we're declaring independence from such an extreme marriage of wealth and power in the state. Wrong again. So apparently if you were to calculate George Washington's net worth in 2026 numbers, it would equate to$600 million. So he really wasn't about fighting the rich. That's not really what the American Revolution was about either. But details, Michael, details. So George Washington, not only was his estate worth, yes, as you say, Megan, the equivalent of about$600 million, he also had neglected his plantation for all the years of his public service.

1:13:21So you could say, well, he wasn't technically the equivalent of a billionaire. He actually might have been. He was sacrificing a lot of his wealth in order to fight for the revolution. But we have some other data points as well. George Washington was not the single wealthiest person in the colonies at the time. He was pretty close, but not the single most. That would probably go to Robert Morris, who is one of the few founding fathers who signed the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution. the single wealthiest man in the colonies at the time of the revolution.

1:13:52But it's not just him. Think about the most famous signature associated with any of the documents of the founding. That would, of course, be John Hancock. So identified with the founding that it actually became a synonym for a signature. You know, give us your John Hancock. John Hancock, far and away one of the wealthiest people in the colonies at the time. That's why it was such a statement when he wrote his name clearly and in large font, because he was risking everything. So what I love about AOC's little history lesson here is not only is she a little bit off, she kind of messed around with a few facts.

1:14:26She is perfectly 100 % wrong. Her view is entirely diametrically opposed to the truth. And if anything, a reconsideration of the American Revolution should really make us love billionaires even more. I mean, honestly, like one of their biggest complaints was taxation without representation. They didn't want England taking all of that money without them having any say in the matter. So you have to have means in order to object to the government taking them, something she conveniently ignores. She failed on every front. I don't know what they're teaching them at Boston University right now, Michael, but her year, I think she was out.

1:15:07She was out to lunch or she was too busy making those margaritas. Somebody who does show political promise, unlike AOC, is Spencer Pratt. You mentioned him. And this guy, it's been very fun to watch him go unleash a can of reality whoop-ass on our friends in California. Now, I want to start with what you said before. You remain skeptical. I remain skeptical, too, because it's California. I mean, what are the odds they're going to do the right thing? He's still trailing in the polls behind Karen Bass. Bass, the Polly market, and Calci, you know, that's the betting markets, look at these two, show Spencer significantly improving his odds since that debate of last week.

1:15:49But Karen Bass also significantly improved, and she's reportedly some 20 points ahead of him in the betting markets and double digits ahead of him in the actual polls. The other woman is basically imploded as a result of that debate. But you remain skeptical that Californians are actually going to do it. Notwithstanding, let me just show something from him. Notwithstanding, amazing. He shared this to his social media. It's 19B, and it's him in an ad showing the streets of homes in Los Angeles and drug addicts. Watch. In disguises, no one knows. Hides the face. He's a county street. Lies a snake.

1:16:35The sun in my disguise. No one's on, no bikes.

1:16:45Now they're zeroing into something at the end. And it's a homeless encounter. Your street deserves better. L.A. deserves better. Vote Pratt for L.A. Mayor. Excellent, right? No one's there. No kids on bikes. No girls doing hopscotch. or jump rope, nothing, because this neighborhood, like so many others in L.A., really is suffering from a homelessness problem that becomes a drug problem doors away from where their children play. You know, one of the attack ads on Spencer Pratt, which I thought was a parody, came out and said, you know, Spencer Pratt doesn't want to give a bunch of your money to junkie bums.

1:17:37Spencer Pratt doesn't want to funnel all your cash to unions or whatever. And I thought, oh, this is clearly a right winger who is making a joke about this. No, apparently it was a real ad from an AFL-CIO union. You can read this in the Electoral Commission reports. And so they're completely out of touch. And Spencer Pratt is tapping into something real. This is why he can go on TV in news interviews and say, you know, they call me the reality star. Yeah, I'm the only candidate in touch with reality. The problem is what you mentioned, Megan, on the Kalshi and Pali market prediction markets, which is, yes, when he came out there at that debate and just completely dominated, you know, created the legend of Pratt Daddy just coming home and restoring order.

1:18:19Unfortunately, all that really did was get rid of Nydia Raman, who was the socialist from the city council. And you say, OK, well, at least you take the really far left candidate out. Well, we had a socialist on the city council running for mayor, but the current mayor, Karen Bass, was a card-carrying communist. She was a member of an actual communist organization. That's why Joe Biden overlooked her. When he said that he was going to pick a running mate who was a black woman, he had three choices. He had Karen Bass, who was a communist. He had Susan Rice, who was Obama's full man for Benghazi.

1:18:50That left Kamala Harris. That's the only way she got that job. But Karen Bass was in the running. She was just way too radical. And so, look, it's L.A., it's Gomorrah by the sea, as we fondly call it. And there's just not a ton of evidence that Pratt's going to be able to get the lift that is required. It could consolidate the race so that now you only have one crazy Democrat. I hope, I want every Republican out there. I wish him all the best. I want to do everything I can to support his campaign. Any sane person needs to go vote for Pratt. The problem is L.A. just isn't sane. I mean, if if the last I've seen it up close for the last 10, 12 years, if if the homeless encampments, the junkies, the crime, all of it burning the city down on at least one occasion, if that doesn't lead you to vote for Republicans, I'm afraid the very best ad in the world is not going to convince you either.

1:19:42I know one of my producers lives in California, Lauren, and she's she's given me about 40 soundbites from Spencer Pratt because she's so desperate to see him elected. She's, you know, a good she's a good, nice Orange County, California Republican. And those poor, reasonable people are left in a in a field of hard leftists who still like Karen Bass after she burned down their city. I mean, it's like forget the homelessness. She burned down their city. There's like there's no more Palisades. And yet she's leading in the polls. Here's a little bit more from Spencer. I want to show this. Oh, wait, we have the ad to which you refer that you you thought was an ad for him.

1:20:24But really, it was a it was an attack ad here in Sot. I think it's 19 from the AFL-CIO. Republican Spencer Pratt is the last thing Los Angeles needs for mayor. Pratt opposes using taxpayer money to build brand new houses for our unhoused neighbors, saying it's time for the homeless to get help or get out. Pratt thinks L.A. needs thousands more police officers rather than more social workers. And Republican Spencer Pratt thinks public employee unions should have less power, not more. L.A. is on the right track and needs to stay the course. Vote no on Republican Spencer Pratt. Oh, my God, that really is incredible.

1:21:03Spencer Pratt doesn't want to kick puppies. Spencer Pratt loves tasty apple pie. Like, who are you appealing to? What is the argument? It does show you something about the average California Democrat, like that they thought that ad would be really effective, and maybe it will be. That's what's crazy. Like, we're laughing, but they're probably right. Their neighbors probably loved what they wrote. They're unhoused. Because you did, you saw the Katie Porter debate, right? With Steve Hilton and others, that was the gubernatorial debate you saw. It was like, is it true that you want to continue using taxpayer money to fund healthcare for illegals?

1:21:42And she's like, absolutely, of course. That's what's humane. It was like, oh my gosh, wow. She's saying it out loud. Okay, wait, let me keep going with Spencer because back to CBS, they did a 28 interview with the guy, 28 minute interview. and it wound up in a three minute hit piece, he said. And we looked at it, it really was slanted. They only included, like they highlighted his time on reality TV, including a soundbite from it. They had a soundbite from a detractor rolling her eyes at him. And of all the great points he made, they used one 40 second soundbite. He spoke to them for a half an hour, but they had plenty of time for the Hills clips.

1:22:27for his detractors clips. It's like, okay, what are we doing here? Here is a little bit from the interview. And this is Saad 15. Are you being strategic now or is this the authentic Spencer Pratt? I'm standing in my airstream in my burned down house. So I'm being strategic to fight these people that have destroyed my life, my neighbor's life, all of Angelino's life. So yes, I'm being very strategic to win and save LA. But no, there's no strategy when you're standing in an airstream on your burnout town. You can't fake that. There's no bit to that. I would much rather be in my house feeding my hummingbirds and have my life back.

1:23:06But that wasn't God's path for me. And so now I'm going to undo the harm these people are doing to a lot of people in the city of LA. And back to this thing, for instance, they say, oh, he seems so angry. Everyone I talk to in LA is angry. They're actually angrier than me because I have a beautiful two kids, a beautiful wife. Some people are alone and they're dealing with the destruction of their city, not feeling safe on the streets. All the disasters in this city, they're alone. At least I have my family. I was a professional villain. I was a TV character personally. And I don't regret one of those things because it was a show.

1:23:41I worked with the producers. I worked with the story writers and everything was fake. Everybody thought I was this bad boyfriend. 20 years later, I'm still with my wife. We have two beautiful kids. OK, so that was a long clip from the outtakes, Michael. A small portion of that made it into the three minute piece. But the three minute and 30 second tape spot, which had just 40 seconds, 46 seconds of Pratt's interview, also included. Let's see this line about him. The 42 year old former reality star who has no political experience is now a main character in the Los Angeles mayoral race. They featured debate clips with Karen Bass, including Karen Bass saying, for the first time, we've had a reduction of homelessness two years in a row because of policies that I have put in place.

1:24:28That's kind of favorable toward Karen Bass, don't you think? You really could have highlighted some other portions of that debate. And then they've got a political pundit in there who says it would be a hard road to convince a blue city like L.A. to vote for a candidate like Pratt, identifying him, quote, as not only a novice politician, but somebody who has pretty much aligned himself with Trump and Republicans. So he's now saying he's never going to give CBS an interview again, and that if he becomes mayor and gets reelected one time, that for the entire eight years he will not be speaking to them.

1:25:02That's how mad he is about what they did. It does make you wonder whether it's even worth it to sit down with these outlets that are just going to do a piece like that about you. Yeah, it's very tempting because network news still has decent penetration, especially – it doesn't play as much online. But among ordinary people who go out and vote, it is important to reach them. What's confounding about the CBS interview, the hit job on Pratt, is that CBS is supposed to be the most moderate of the three. When Barry Weiss took over there, the promise was that it was going to be, look, she's not a conservative, but it was going to be at least a little more centrist, a little more fair.

1:25:42I myself, I've done interviews with CBS, and I thought they were actually more than fair to me. So the question is, why Pratt? Why are they going after Pratt? And I wonder if there's a pragmatic decision here, which is they don't think he's going to win. And so they're willing to kind of write him off and cast him to the side. This is all psychobabble. It's pure speculation. But it is a strange zag. After CBS had been positioning itself as being the network most fair and favorable to conservatives, why would why would they go out and really really smack down the most exciting local that's such a joke you know that hasn't happened at all you know it's like yes they stated that because the ellisons have some affinity for trump but barry weiss doesn't if you ever read the free press and i did all the time um it's not woke but it's not pro-trump they don't like trump and that's her she's not woke except on the issue of israel and anti-semitism she's very woke as woke as they come on that.

1:26:40She's as identity politics favorable as BLM is to its issues. But she doesn't like Trump. So this line about him being, you know, he aligned himself with the maggot. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure she's not monitoring every piece that they do, but that line would not be a problem with the Barry Weiss. I know she'd be fine with that. We'll see. I'm rooting for him. I love what he's doing. And I think even if he loses this race, Michael, he may have a future in politics, notwithstanding. I don't know whether he'll throw his hat into a national race of some sort. But I think he's helping redefine who can run for office and how it can be done.

1:27:23You know, he's it's very that is very Trump like if you think about the way he's going about it, he just doesn't care. The mocking face when the other candidate was like making fun of him. He's like, that's great stuff. He's fearless. And Trump himself is literally a reality TV star. So the parallels are pretty close. I thought Pratt's great response to this question of, you know, you don't have any experience in politics. What makes you think you could be a mayor is, well, it was actually Trump's response when he became the Republican nominee without ever having held public office. He says, look at what experience got us.

1:27:59Yeah, okay, well, if experience in L.A. is burning down the Palisades while you're on another continent and the fire is being caused by one of your own, one of your own ideological comrades, this left-wing arsonist, allegedly, then if that's experience, I want the opposite. Give me a novice, please. I'd trust him a lot more with my home. What good has her experience done L.A.? I mean, it's just look, if they continue to put Democrats in power after Gavin Newsom ruined their state and Karen Bass let it burn, they deserve what's coming their way. I love you Californians, but you deserve it because you can't just keep electing the same kinds of people and expecting different results.

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1:31:18Michael Knowles, host of the Michael Knowles Show, is back with me now. So Michael, I don't know if you've been following this J.P. Morgan saga, but there is this man who is accusing an executive there named Lorna Hajdini of allegedly harassing him in some very bizarre, and yours truly finds not credible, ways. The banker's name is Chirayurana. He's the complainant. And I mentioned Lorna is the accused. JP Morgan denies all of this. And she denies all of this saying, never, never a sexual interlude. We never had sexual relations of any kind. I never drugged him. He alleges that she gave him both Rohypnol and Viagra so that she could rape him.

1:32:05not to mention the alleged time that she forced him, he claims, to allow her to go down on him, which she did, but he cried the whole time. He wants us to know he cried during the entire windy, as I understand it's called by some men. Okay. Now we are learning more about him. There was a deep dive in the Wall Street Journal on Saturday. It was very good. It says, first of all, Well, correcting the record on a couple of things. He apparently is unmarried. There had been reports he was married. He's unmarried. He was not having any sort of an affair. He had alleged she was his supervisor. She wasn't.

1:32:44We actually reported that correctly here on this program. Um, they report that outside of work, these two work regularly communicating with each other in group texts and would sometimes go out together as a group. On occasion, coworkers would joke about Rana's Nepalese background in the chats and refer to Indian men as, quote, brown boys. That's a term he claimed she used against him. Rana liked one message, this is the plaintiff Rana, where a colleague asked, quote, if a brown boy could join a gathering, one screenshot reviewed by the Wall Street Journal shows. They write that Rana and Hajdini also exchanged seemingly friendly text messages with Hajdini sending him SoundCloud links and memes, according to these screenshots.

1:33:31Nothing, though, about screenshots showing her harassing him, calling him any sort of derogatory words, trying to command him as her sex slave as he's claiming this lawsuit. And we learned late last week that J.P. Morgan tried to settle this case before he filed it for a million dollars. He rejected it. He originally wanted, he was demanding 11, and now he's asking for 22 million. The Wall Street Journal report does point out he's been at several banks over the past, I think, 10 years. He's got somewhat of a, you know, short work history at every bank he's gone to, none of whom want to comment on the record about him.

1:34:11And then, of course, it broke that he had taken family bereavement leave for his dead father, and his father is alive and well. There's an intimation now in the Wall Street Journal report that there may be someone who's like a father to him, who he's now saying that may have been. Okay, that's not how bereavement leave works. It generally does, like father has a definition. Can't just be like, you know, the superintendent of your apartment building passed and you need time. Um, colleagues, uh, kids who went to school with him in college, he went to Rutgers, remember him as driven and ambitious.

1:34:51Um, others recall him as socially awkward. Uh, some say he could be aggressive while playing sports at Rutgers. He's from Vienna, Virginia, a wealthy suburb, uh, the first of Nepalese immigrants, first born, I should say. And that's about it. So he cycled through prestigious financial firms, including Credit Suisse, Morgan Stanley, Carlyle Group, and an affiliate of Apollo Global Management, and so on, but never stayed at any one for a particularly long time and didn't make it at J.P. Morgan for a particularly long time. And then when he left J.P. Morgan, didn't make it at the next firm that he was with right before he filed this lawsuit for a particularly long time, all of which leaves us where, Michael Knowles?

1:35:34Well, look, maybe it's all a big misunderstanding because if he initially claimed that his father had died and then it turns out his father didn't die, but it was someone who was like a father to him. Maybe there was someone at J.P. Morgan who was like a dominatrix to him. You know, it wasn't this girl, you know, sort of straddling him throughout the day at his cubicle. But maybe there was someone who was kind of like his, I don't know, sexual harasser. it's also very confusing because we were told initially that mr chirayu whatever he he had a wife whom he called a uh pardon the phrase it's from the reporting that he who is a fish head he said and and even that lorna allegedly said that he alleges that his harasser said look at these taking off her top does your fish head asian wife have anything resembling these cannons that's the key no Megan I guess there's no this is the key when I knew for a fact it was all untrue not just because this woman is very good looking plenty of good looking women are totally nuts uh and not just because she had a good job there are women in finance are definitely nuts it was and not just because this guy has a checkered history it was that word cannons you know I had heard the slur that he allegedly called his wife before because I watched Grant to Reno with Clint Eastwood, a great movie, but it was cannons because maybe you can clarify this for me, Megan.

1:36:59As far as I can tell, no woman has ever actually referred to, no, I mean, men do, but there is no, this lawsuit, in my humble opinion, reads like a penthouse letter. You asked if I'd been following the story. I've been reading the news reports a little, but only late at night when I can turn the blinds down because it's embarrassing even to read this kind of material. I've barely covered it on this show. It's saucy. It's sultry. It comes from this guy's crazy fantasies. And I suspect he will not be getting a single dollar. I agree with you entirely. This is our opinion that this man is making this up.

1:37:37No woman has referred to her breasts as cannons. Any term of art about the breasts I've ever heard a woman say literally every time has been the girls. I just women, they're not throwing around like cute terms really for they'll say breasts, boobs, the T word, but like, I've never heard a woman call them cannons. That's another one I don't think the women use. That's more of a male term. I mean, we could look, Megan, we could fill three shows with all of the euphemisms, but that was a tell to me. That is not a lady term. Yes. Yes, I agree. And I'm just going to be honest. Like this woman looks very attractive.

1:38:14This guy, you know, it looks pretty nerdy. He doesn't really look like anything special that you'd risk your entire career for. Though that's not to say that some women can't have psychological issues. And maybe there's something about this really super tall guy who allegedly played basketball at Rutgers. He claimed she squeezed his calf muscle and said, oh, you really did play basketball, didn't you? Which also sounds fake. Maybe there was something about him that did it for her. But this to me seems like a disgusting smear campaign. And I will say I'm also very suspicious of these short work stints.

1:38:49He left JP Morgan like a year ago and in that time found a new job and left it already. Okay. When someone wants to come work for Michael Knowles, you look at the resume and one of the first things you look for is, okay, what other jobs have they had and how long did they hold them? Because if it's little short, less than one year stints, this person is the problem, not the job. Yeah, it's all sorts of red flags here. And then even just the specificity of the supposed episodes, like the one you referenced it earlier. So I'm not, you know, I'm not telling tales at a school where he says that she came up to him, gave him multiple drugs, supposedly pleasured him.

1:39:36And he cried tears, not of joy, tears of joy, maybe you could understand from this guy. But tears, I just, nothing, like every single red flag for scammer is going off here. And I do feel for this woman, assuming that this is all bogus, which I think we mostly do. This woman, I think she is married. Like she has a family. It's really awful that she's been dragged through the mud. I don't know if she's married. I haven't heard that. I thought she was. I could be wrong. She's like a very pretty. She's got a reputation to uphold. It's very hard to make it in a man's world at JP Morgan on Wall Street.

1:40:12Are you kidding me? This girl is like the unicorn that she's made it this far and she's well-respected and she's apparently on a good fast track. And it's like, boom, she gets saddled with this bullshit. Like this is, I mean, listen, it's happened to a lot of men too. Then it'd be taken probably a lot more seriously if it were a woman alleging this stuff about a man. But this just sounds so incredibly laughable. The Rohypnol-Viagra combo. I mean, honestly, we don't even know if this is a medical possibility. You know, like the Viagra can just work on that one appendage and like everything's been knocked out.

1:40:45Your arms and legs are like this, but your one other appendage is at attention. I just don't buy it. Michael Knowles. Sorry. No, this is it reads both as pornography. You know, it reads like Penthouse or Playboy, but it also reads like science fiction. I don't know. I've never tried it. I don't intend to try it. A cigar and a scotch is about as far as I go. So we'll have to let the courts figure it out. All right. Note to my team. Today, we will get the answer to whether this is possible. We know people. We know professionals. I don't know. Who do we call? Do we call like a prostate cancer doc?

1:41:20Do we call? I would not experiment. We can find this out. We are going to have this. We're going to have this answer for you tomorrow here on the MK Show. All right. Before we go, we've got to spend one minute on poor Jerry O 'Connell. I really like Jerry O 'Connell. He's so fun on social media. He was in Stand By Me. He was in Jerry Maguire. He married to Rebecca Romijn, formerly Rebecca Romijn Stamos, who's a supermodel. But boy, oh boy, he gave an interview to Jamie Kennedy and came up with the very, very wrong answer about what he would do. I think he's got three or four daughters if he saw a trans person in their bathroom.

1:42:03Sot 21. not to make this about horoscopes, but I'm an aquarium. I let water flows. I let water flow. I'm like water, baby. Let's say you're at the Montage Hotel. Okay, fancy hotel, five-star boutique hotel. You're in the lobby. Sure. And there is a guy there who's about 35 years old. Person. Person. Well, he's a guy. I'm going to tell you why he's a guy. Because he's wearing a dress. He's wearing a Jill Sanders skirt. Oh, fun. And you notice that his unit is hanging out. And it's about eight inches. Eight inches? Yeah, soft. And he goes into the women's room. What say you? But he's wearing his Jill Sanders skirt.

1:42:54I would say nothing. Of course you wouldn't! And that's why we're fucking here! I would say nothing. Nothing. It's the wrong answer. It's a fail and it's cowardly and it's going to endanger his twin daughters. That's what he has. Your thoughts, Michael? That is the politics. That's the church of nice. That's the morality of the people who think on the left and even get this on the right. A little laissez faire. Don't yuck my yum. Do whatever you want. Who's to say? I don't want to be an authoritarian. I don't know. I'm not going to tell you how I see things. Folks, if we cannot insist on basic truths and conclusions, basic limits, we cannot have a society, if it is authoritarian to keep the man with the giant appendage out of the daughter's bathroom, then call me Francisco Franco.

1:43:48Giant. Michael, thank you. Always wonderful to see you. Tomorrow we are back with Garagos and Murphy of the Well. We're going to ask Garagos about the new Michael Jackson movie. He was his client. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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