In short
The host argues Biden is gaining political momentum over Trump/MAGA, citing multiple polls, internal GOP fractures, and viral Biden interviews; they also claim Trump’s policies worsen cost of living and that Trump’s legal/political attacks are inconsistent.
Guest backgrounds
No podcast guests are interviewed in the transcript. The episode references public figures and interview clips, including former President Joe Biden, and comments from voters/farmers and a Minnesota shooting survivor (Yvette Hoffman).
Key claims
Polls show voters prefer Biden on the economy; Trump approval is collapsing; GOP support for Trump is weak; Trump is obsessed with blaming Biden; Trump’s DOJ actions against James Comey are hypocritical; Trump’s approach to Iran/Strait of Hormuz and Afghanistan was harmful.
Notable examples
Harvard-Harris (52–48 Biden economy), Reuters Ipsos (34% approve Trump), Economist/YouGov (18% strongly approve Trump); Comey “8647” vs Trump “Biden bound and gagged” photo; “I miss Uncle Joe” voter clip; Biden Roosevelt Room legacy/“we’re not going away” clips; Brooke Rollins on SNAP cuts; farmers describing diesel/fertilizer price spikes from Strait of Hormuz closure.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBiden's Economic Approval Over Trump
2:00 to 4:25
Explore the latest polling data showing Biden's economy handling favored over Trump's.
“Former President Biden is getting his revenge on Donald Trump as Donald Trump's regime is in full collapse mode.”
Trump's Approval Ratings and Responses
4:27 to 7:46
Discuss Trump's declining approval and his actions in response to Biden's presidency.
“And people were comparing that disastrous interview with the interview I did with former President Biden in that same location in the Roosevelt Room.”
Voter Sentiment and Personal Anecdotes
7:48 to 12:55
Hear about voters' feelings toward Biden and their experiences during his presidency.
“Everything that Donald Trump is screwing up, he continues to blame on Biden.”
Reflections on Leadership and Accountability
12:57 to 14:02
Examining the leadership styles of Trump and Biden and their decisions on foreign policy.
“People are suffering psychologically tortured under the Trump regime.”
Trump's Afghanistan Withdrawal Debacle
14:02 to 15:12
Learn how Trump's decisions led to the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan.
“Trump released the 5 ,000 Taliban soldiers who ended up taking Afghanistan over.”
Republican Blame Game
15:13 to 17:21
Explore how Republicans attempt to shift blame for Biden's policies.
“these Trump MAGA sycophants trying to blame Biden for this.”
Impact of Rising Costs on Farmers
17:22 to 19:20
Discover the struggles farmers face due to rising costs and tariffs.
“And then our friends at a more perfect union, they do great work, by the way.”
Farmers' Frustration with Leadership
19:21 to 20:16
Hear a farmer's candid thoughts on Trump's leadership and current challenges.
“But I do not agree with this and I'm not happy about this at all.”
Transcript
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2:00Ben Meiselas:Former President Biden is getting his revenge on Donald Trump as Donald Trump's regime is in full collapse mode. The latest Harvard-Harris poll shows by a significant margin all voters prefer former President Biden's handling of the economy. over Donald Trump's handling of the economy, 52 % to 48%. That same poll among independents favor former President Biden's handling of the economy by a margin of 65 % in favor of Biden, over 35 % in favor of Trump, a 30-point preference for former President Biden's handling of the economy. But it doesn't just end there. The latest Reuters Ipsos poll is very similar to the latest APNORC poll in terms of Donald Trump's collapsing approval, far worse than former President Biden.
3:01Ben Meiselas:At Biden's lowest point, Donald Trump is way worse than that, especially when it comes to Trump's handling of the economy and the cost of living. In the latest Reuters Ipsos poll only 34 % of Americans approve and 64 % disapprove of Donald Trump's presidency. This is the lowest second term approval yet. The previous low was a net negative 14. He's now net negative 30. And when it comes to cost of living, Donald Trump's approval is only at 22%. Let me repeat that, only 22%, but the numbers get worse. As Donald Trump and MAGA were out there attacking Biden every single day, take a look right here of a massive coalition fracture among the Republican Party.
3:56Ben Meiselas:The latest Economist YouGov polling shows only 18 % of voters strongly approve of Donald Trump. His lowest, including less than half of his 2024 voters at 47%. Let me repeat that. Only 18 % of voters strongly approve of Donald Trump. Now, former President Biden is surfacing in many other ways in the past 24 hours. And one of those ways includes an interview that I did with former President Biden in the Roosevelt room right before Biden left the presidency before Trump's inauguration, because lots of people are talking about that heavily edited and manipulated Nora O'Donnell interview with Donald Trump after the purported incident at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, where Donald Trump was like whining with Norah O'Donnell saying, I'm not a pedo, I'm not a pedo.
4:59Ben Meiselas:And people were comparing that disastrous interview with the interview I did with former President Biden in that same location in the Roosevelt Room. More on that in a moment. But former President Biden's name and presidency continued to surface as evidence that James Comey can use to get Donald Trump's weaponized, despicable DOJ's criminal case against Comey dismissed. By now, I'm sure you know that Donald Trump's Gestapo criminally charged former FBI director James Comey with threats against the president's life because a year ago, Comey posted a photo of like a North Carolina a beach that said 8647.
5:47Ben Meiselas:86 means to get rid of. It's bar slang or restaurant slang to remove. It doesn't mean to necessarily harm somebody. But based on that, the snowflake Trump regime brought criminal charges against James Comey, to which many people pointed out, hey, Donald, when you were running for office, weren't you posting photos of former President Biden bound and gagged on the back of pickup trucks? Oh yeah. People are pulling out these receipts and saying, so you forced your regime to bring criminal charges against James Comey for a photo that says 8647 while you've been posting photos like this. This is March 28th, 2024.
6:34Ben Meiselas:Trump posts this photo from Long Island, New York. Take a look right there. You could even zoom in. It's a photo of former President Biden, when he was president at the time, bound and gagged. And that same pickup truck was out there celebrating Donald Trump at his criminal trial, where Donald Trump was convicted on 34 separate felony counts. And so people are pointing out, well, if you did that, Donald, shouldn't you then be arrested? Also, lots of Trump MAGA influencers posts against former President Biden have been surfacing. and people saying, okay, you charge Comey, why don't you charge Jack Poseidon then?
7:13Ben Meiselas:If you're going to be social media police, and by the way, I don't think any of this conduct should be charged, but Jack Poseidon wrote 86-46 about former President Biden. So is that criminal right now based on the Trump regime's interpretation of everything? Oh, also more data haunting Donald Trump right now. Nine out of 12 voters in this latest New York Times focus group who voted for Donald Trump no longer support him. And that's consistent with the other polling data that we've seen. Donald Trump, of course, is obsessed with Biden. Everything that Donald Trump is screwing up, he continues to blame on Biden.
7:52Ben Meiselas:Why is the GDP growth so poor Biden? Why is our debt exploding Biden? Why is inflation up Biden? Why is gas so high Biden? Why are we at war with Iran, Obama Biden. Why are groceries high? Biden. Why are you talking about a$1.5 trillion military budget? Biden. And Trump makes social media post after social media post. Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden. I mean, he's been doing it over the past week, past month, past year since this term began. Biden, Biden, Biden. The guy's obsessed. And he's like, Biden didn't really win in 2020. And there was a coup against me. The guy is out of his mind, deranged. But when you hear from Trump voters, they're like, I miss Uncle Joe.
8:36Ben Meiselas:I miss Uncle Joe. This guy right here, play this clip. But honestly, I miss my Uncle Joe because, I mean, yeah, there was a lot of craziness going on, but it was a whole lot calmer than this. It didn't affect my day-to-day life. I was a nobody, and I was balling then. Now, I couldn't even tell you. I couldn't even show you$5 in my pocket. I think we all miss the compassion of Uncle Joe. Yvette Hoffman, I remember she and her lawmaker husband, John Hoffman, survived the political assassination attempt on them in Minnesota. Minnesota, tragically, that was the assassination attempt where the former Speaker of the Minnesota House was shot and killed along with her husband.
9:29Ben Meiselas:But Yvette Hoffman, who managed to survive, remember there were two shootings that took place, posted this about President Biden. She and her lawmaker husband, John Hoffman, were shot along with Melissa and Mark Hortman. Melissa and Mark Hortman, they were murdered. And fortunately, John Hoffman and Yvette Hoffman managed to survive. And she just posted this. Although not the current sitting president at the time, he came. He came to the ICU. He came to see the Hortman's lion state in the Minnesota state capitol rotunda. And he came to their funeral. He has checked in with us multiple times since June 14th, just to make sure we're okay.
10:09Ben Meiselas:And here's Biden with them right there. You see Biden and these incredible photos with them right there. Now, what has surfaced over the past 24 hours, and I'm not sure if you've been seeing it, but these clips have went viral. So I had the opportunity to interview former President Biden in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, the exact same location where Norah O'Donnell interviewed Donald Trump. I did my interview at the end of December in 2024. And I asked former President Biden, when history is all told, how do you want to be remembered? What do you want your legacy to be? Here's what he told me.
10:44Ben Meiselas:This clip has been going viral today. Let's play it. When history is all told, how do you want to be remembered? What do you want your legacy to be? I kept my word that when I said I was going to do something, I did. and that my focus has always been about how to give ordinary people a shot. You've probably heard me say it before. My dad used to say, Joey, your job is about a lot more than a paycheck. It's about your dignity. It's about respect. It's about being able to look your kid in the eye and say, I'm just going to be okay and mean it. It's about being able to be yourself and focus on people who need some help.
11:31and the vast majority of the American people, all they want is a chance, just a chance, and they'll do fine.
11:38Ben Meiselas:You see hope? I do. I am hopeful. And then I asked him back in December of 2024, what do you say to Americans who are understandably very nervous right now in this moment? Here's what he had to say. Here, play this clip. What do you say to Americans who are understandably very nervous right now, who didn't vote for the other guy, who are fearful of the threats, the rhetoric, the idea of retribution. What do you say to them who are looking at you, who admired your work? And what do you say to them right now who are watching? We've got to stay involved. We've got to keep fighting. We've got to make clear we're not going away.
12:20We're not going away. I'm not going away. I'm going to be deeply involved in the environment. I'm going to be deeply involved in foreign policy. They deeply involve them. All the things I've been involved before.
12:30Ben Meiselas:You know, I also reflect upon all of these right-wing clothing sellers, 8646 outfits. That's one of MAGA's best-selling items was 8646 merch that they would go and sell. So should all of those people be arrested right now? And look, people are feeling the pain at the pump. People can't afford groceries. People can't afford gas. People can't afford rent. People are suffering psychologically tortured under the Trump regime. And like that voter from Florida who I showed you before, it goes, I miss Uncle Joe. There wasn't drama like this. There wasn't the chaos. I had a normal life. I was doing fine.
13:14Ben Meiselas:Yeah, that's what we were trying to tell you all. I mean, I know Biden wasn't flashy. I get that he was old, but he wasn't in our faces. He wasn't in our lives. He just let us be. And he ran an effective government. And you could be like, well, you know, he's not as sharp as he was when he was younger. He surrounded himself with the sharpest team that there was, okay? I mean, just think about the gas prices are soaring. Strait of Hormuz is still closed. Donald Trump is saying, well, I'm not going to do anything. We're just going to keep the naval blockade. We're not going to commit more troops, which is a good thing.
13:48Ben Meiselas:And we're not going to negotiate, though, with Iran. I'm just going to keep the blockade. We'll see what happens. Like a miracle, maybe it will go away. And that's not leadership. Do you remember what Donald Trump did? People are talking about this now. Remember what Trump did with Afghanistan? Trump promised that he was going to do the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Trump made a deal with the Taliban. Trump released the 5 ,000 Taliban soldiers who ended up taking Afghanistan over. And Trump threw under the bus the existing Afghan government that was allied with the United States. And then Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David on 9-11, by the way.
14:24Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump said that he was going to evacuate the U.S. military bases and remove the troops. Trump never did that because you have to understand Donald Trump's a coward. Donald Trump doesn't make real decisions. He was never a dealmaker. He's a destroyer. Biden had to actually be the person who removed the troops. And Biden took responsibility and accountability when things went wrong, although Biden was able to move a lot of the troops out safely. But he took responsibility when there was an act. He took it on himself like a leader is supposed to do with tragic, horrific terrorist attack, right?
15:00Ben Meiselas:And then former President Biden didn't get us into any wars. He put us on a course correct and had to deal with what Donald Trump, the arsonist, did. And now all throughout the day, you have these Trump MAGA sycophants trying to blame Biden for this. That it's not working. Like MAGA Republican Greg Stubbe. Here's what he had to say yesterday when, look, I just want to be very clear. Trump was in office in 2020. You're complaining about the Trump thing here. Play this clip. You look at this. The Census Bureau admits during the Biden administration that they short changed Florida and Texas. You know, they made a mistake during COVID under the Biden administration.
15:37So we should have gotten another seat. And it's also correct that eleven hundred people a day are moving to the great state of Florida, fleeing states like New York and California and leftist cities because they hate the policies and they love the policies of Florida and the freedom that we have there. So that is also a fact. So you're going to see these changes.
15:56Ben Meiselas:Then you have Brooke Rollins, the agriculture secretary, bragging about kicking people off of food stamps and then blaming former President Biden. Here play this clip. Secretary, you've got some new news to break with us this morning. You know, federal data revealing 4 million fewer Americans are receiving SNAP benefits in the first year of this president's second term. These numbers are coming from your department, enrollment falling 4.2 million people. And this is after the passage, of course, the big, beautiful bill last July. What can you tell us? Well, it is a really big piece of news. And obviously there's a lot going on in the world.
16:35But back here and in the homeland, what are we doing to make sure that the president's promise to return the power to the people to drain the swamp is really happening. Under Joe Biden, the SNAP program, the food stamp program, grew by more than 40 percent. Of course, I believe they were buying votes for the election, putting as many people on as they could. Within the first hour of me being sworn in last February, we sent a letter to every governor in the country saying, partner with us. Let's make sure that this program is really working for those who need it the most. And as of just a couple of days ago, we now have moved 4.3 million Americans off of the food stamp program.
17:13A lot of that is fraud. A lot of it is people taking the program that shouldn't have been. And then a lot of it is just a better economy. We've had wage growth that has outpaced inflation for the first time since early 2021.
17:26Ben Meiselas:And then our friends at a more perfect union, they do great work, by the way. They published this showing what Republican voters, big Trump farmers, what they're saying right now. Here play this clip. My family's farm for 100 years. You don't want to be the one that can't keep it going. You know, I am a Republican. I voted for this administration, but my patience is running thin. We're here in the heart of the Mississippi Delta to talk with farmers about how the war with Iran is impacting them. Oh, it's been awful. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz is causing prices to skyrocket. Things like diesel fuel and fertilizer.
18:02We're buying a little bit at a time. Sometimes we know that we've only got two weeks of fuel. So what has happened to us is not just the impact of one year. We have lost customers forever. They will never come back because we're deemed an unreliable supplier. I'm paying 60 % more for diesel fuel than I would have been paying 45 days ago. You've got to have diesel for everything. You've got diesel to this, to plant, to harvest. So diesel steadily going up like this, man, it affects us bad. You have no choice. You know, you've got to go ahead and buy it no matter what the price is. There's going to be a lot of people that go out of business at the end of the year, either because they have to, because they're tired of losing money.
18:41Farmers have already been struggling with rising costs and even tariffs making things even harder. It's going to be the nail in the coffin for a number of farmers. It's just the straw that broke the camel's back. A lot of the money that comes through the economy is just shuffling from the government back to, you know, these big corporations and just kind of, you know, your farmer's a middleman these days. Really are. It just seems like the farmer's margins were already slim and they just keep getting slimmer and slimmer. We can't control diesel. We can't control, you know, wars. We can't control anything.
19:13All we can control is once we put that seed in the ground, that's all we are called to do, right? And the rest of it is up to the good Lord. I've supported Mr. Trump this entire way. But I do not agree with this and I'm not happy about this at all. I did not vote for this administration. We're just hoping that the administration can right some of the wrongs that it's created for farmers with terrorists and mainly what this war has inflicted on us. A lot of people that did vote for this administration say it'll come around. But my question sometimes is, will you be in business when it does? If President Trump were standing here in this field right now, what would you say?
19:50I'd ask him to stick a sock in his mouth and not say anything for a while. Get these field brushes down. Get them down. There's an old African proverb that says, when elephants fight, it's the ants that get crushed. The ants are getting crushed. A war, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
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