Charlie Angus Responds to Trump Ending Trade Negotiations

26 Oct 2025 · 17 min · 6 chapters

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In short

Canada–U.S. trade negotiations after Donald Trump says talks are over, plus a dispute over a Ronald Reagan anti-tariff ad allegedly used by Canada. Ontario Premier Doug Ford plans to run Reagan-voice ads during World Series games; Trump claims Canada “cheated” and fraudulently used a fake ad, while his advisor Kevin Hassett says negotiations haven’t been “collegial.”

Guests

Charlie Angus, Canadian politician and leader of NDP? (described as “leader of Midas Canada”/“leader of the resistance”), speaking from the Port of Vancouver amid increased shipping.

Key claims

Angus calls Ford “smart” and Trump’s behavior a “temper tantrum,” argues tariffs are harmful (citing Reagan’s broader anti-tariff speech), says trade is still happening and Canada is “leading the resistance,” and warns rule-of-law concerns in the U.S.

Notable examples

Reagan’s 1987 free-trade speech; Trump’s prior threats to suspend deals; increased Port of Vancouver shipping; Ontario wine exports to Norway; Blue Jays vs Dodgers World Series ads.

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Canada's Response to Trump's Trade Decisions

1:31 to 1:52

Discussion on Canada's reaction to Trump ending trade negotiations and the role of Ronald Reagan's legacy.

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Canada's Response to Trump's Trade Decisions

2:01 to 4:40

Discussion on Canada's reaction to Trump ending trade negotiations and the role of Ronald Reagan's legacy.

“The Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, says we're going to continue to run those ads featuring Ronald Reagan's voice throughout the weekend during the World Series between the Los Angeles Dodgers and Toronto Blue Jays.”

Interview with Charlie Angus

4:46 to 6:40

Charlie Angus shares insights on the trade situation and the political climate in Canada.

“I want to bring in Charlie Angus, who's literally on the resistance stories in the port or by the port of Vancouver.”

Canadian Perspective on Tariffs and Trade

6:42 to 11:04

Insights into the historical context of tariffs and the impact on Canada-U.S. relations.

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Call to Action for U.S. Democrats

11:10 to 14:00

A plea for U.S. Democrats to support Canada amidst trade tensions with Trump.

“But he was sort of laughing the other day when he said he was going to challenge Donald Trump to a bet over the Blue Jays, which, of course, we are going to win the World Series.”

Charlie Angus on Resistance Tour and Canadian Beauty

14:00 to 15:30

Learn about Charlie Angus's Resistance Tour and the significance of Canadian landscapes.

“I'll try and talk to you and then we'll pack your bags and send you shipping.”
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2:00Ben Meiselas:Canada is absolutely furious at Donald Trump and his regime, and Canada is not backing down. The Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, says we're going to continue to run those ads featuring Ronald Reagan's voice throughout the weekend during the World Series between the Los Angeles Dodgers and Toronto Blue Jays. And he says, look, we wanted this conversation to be had. Let's be very clear. Ronald Reagan was very much against tariffs and he was for free trade. The Republicans in the United States claim they are supportive of Reagan's legacy. And Reagan talked about the importance of a strong free trade relationship between the United States, Canada and the rest of the world.

2:43Ben Meiselas:You'll recall that Donald, you'll definitely recall Donald Trump threw a temper tantrum Thursday and then into Friday where he said all trade discussions, negotiations with Canada are hereby over. But Donald Trump posted, he posted the Ronald Reagan Foundation has just announced that Canada fraudulently used an advertisement, which is fake, featuring Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about tariffs. The ad was for$75 ,000. Well, Donald was actually for$75 million. And it's word for word, Ronald Reagan's address to the country in 1987. And if you want to watch the longer address as well, he's even more anti-tariff than could be put into that one minute commercial.

3:31Ben Meiselas:So then Donald Trump followed up that message on Thursday night with a very early 4.20 a.m. West Coast time message on his social media platform. Canada cheated. You cheated, Canada, and got caught. They fraudulently took a big buy ad. It's a big buy ad saying that Ronald Reagan did not like tariffs when actually he loved tariffs for our country and its national security. Canada is trying to illegally influence the United States Supreme Court in one of the most important rulings in the history of our country. talking about. Ronald Reagan did not like tariffs. Ronald Reagan's whole speech, the speech was called like in support of free trade.

4:15Ben Meiselas:And then Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario, responded, our intention was always to initiate conversations about the kind of economy that Americans want to build and the impact of tariffs on workers and businesses. We've achieved our goal, having reached US audiences at the highest level. I've directed my team to keep putting our message in front of the Americans over the weekend so that we can air our commercials during the first two World Series games. He says after that, we will take down the commercials, but it will air during the World Series. But it's a response to Donald Trump throwing a temper tantrum.

4:49Ben Meiselas:I want to bring in Charlie Angus, who's literally on the resistance stories in the port or by the port of Vancouver. For those watching, you can see the port of Vancouver in the background right there. and you'll see a lot of ships coming by as Charlie's there. You've seen a huge increase of shipping in the port of Vancouver over the past six to nine months. Charlie, I want you to respond to everything that's going on, but I also want you to hear Donald Trump's chief economic advisor, Kevin Hassett. He was asked earlier in the day about all of this and here's what Trump's economic advisor said.

5:20Ben Meiselas:Let's play it. What's going on with Canada? Here is the true social posted last night. Canada cheated and got caught. They fraudulently took a big buy ad saying that Ronald Reagan did not like terrorists when actually he loved terrorists for our country and its national security. I've seen the video going back to the 80s from the presidential library. What's with this latest spat? How far does it go? Well, I don't think that anything that the president truthed yesterday is about just, you know, one thing. The fact is that the negotiations with the Canadians have not been very collegial. They've not been going well.

5:56I think the president's very frustrated. He wants a great deal with Canada, just like he wants a great deal with Mexico.

6:02Ben Meiselas:I want to bring in Charlie Angus, leader of Midas Canada, leader of the resistance or not very collegial is what they're saying. Charlie, what do you make of it all? Oh, my God. You know, it's killing me. The fact that I'm now thinking Ronald Reagan was a decent guy and Doug Ford is the smartest politicians I've seen in a long time. I mean, Doug Ford is laughing in his man cave today. It's actually kind of funny because you have Prime Minister Carney sort of acting like the sober adult in the room and Doug Ford going and throwing some tables over. And then Doug Ford saying, oh, we'll take the ad down after the first two games of the World Series.

6:42This is going to be the most famous ad in World Series history. And it's Donald Trump fighting with the legacy of Ronald Reagan. This is insane. You know, and I think, Ben, Trump threatened us in January that he was suspending all deals with us. Then it was March. He suspended all trade deals. Then he said if we didn't drop the digital service tax, he was suspending everything. Then he gave us just a month, you know, to come up with a plan. Then he was going to punish us over recognizing Palestine. No Canadian expected that Doug Ford or that Donald Trump was actually going to live up to his word.

7:16So when the ad came out, it just seemed what really struck Canadians was like, my God, you're a moron. Like we knew you were going to pull some kind of stunt, but this is absolutely ridiculous. And Ben, the reason I'm standing here at the port in Vancouver is they said that they'd break our economy. We've seen a huge increase in shipping. Trade is happening. People are wanting to trade with Canada. So as we say in Canada, bye bye, mo cowboy. Bye bye.

7:42Ben Meiselas:Well, and you always said, look, Donald Trump meant it when he said he wants Canada to be the 51st state. He wants to figure out a way to take it over the same way Putin wants to take over Ukraine. And what's the expression that Trump always uses about whether it's Taiwan to China or Ukraine to Putin, the apple of my eye. I mean, Canada is with Donald Trump's apple to his eye. He wants it conquered. And he's just trying to figure out ways to harm Canada. And it seems as Canada has figured out ways now to expand its relationships, you know, whether it's with Europe or even China. Trump's getting so frustrated by that because he wanted to break you all.

8:23Ben Meiselas:He wanted to break Canadians and you aren't breaking. You're leading the resistance. Canada's leading the worldwide boycott and leading the world against Trump. Well, Ben, wherever I travel, you know, we've been taking the Midas town halls across Canada. I'm seeing such a determination. And it started off, I think people were defensive. They were freaking out. It's like, what are we going to do? These guys are coming up for us. And now people are saying, we're done with them. You know, we saw the absolute collapse of the American spirit market, the wine industry disintegrating 97%. That shows what people power can do.

8:55But the upside is, I was just talking to a winery in Ontario, selling Ontario wines into Norway for the first time. We're taking advantage of this. What's really concerning to Canadians is the disintegration of the rule of law south of the border. The disrespect Donald Trump shows, not just for us, but for his own people. And, you know, I did a Canadian interview today and they said, well, don't you think it's very un-Canadian that we interfered in their country, blah, blah, blah, clutching the pearls? I said, this is a guy who showed a video, an AI video of him dumping diarrhea on his own citizens.

9:30This man is not worthy of any office in any land. So the fact that he's freaked out that we showed a video that just had Ronald Reagan speaking shows that he's not trustworthy. People are not going to be expecting him to live up to his word. And it's forcing all nations, whether they wanted to or not, to look elsewhere. And so Canada's looking elsewhere.

9:54Ben Meiselas:I'm trying to think of like what it would be like, you know, from a democratic politician's perspective. It would be like, what if you had, you know, when Biden was in office or Obama or whatever, and then someone ran an ad of FDR and talked about all the kind of programs, you know, that was there. and then the president was like how dare you play fdr fdr actually did it you know it was like what are you talking about this there's statues of the guy but i mean to the point is is like what would what's the interference like y 'all say you love ronald reagan yeah ronald reagan objectively hated tariffs the whole speech was i hate tariffs and only in the most extreme circumstances and then if we do it because he said like we have to do it with japan and this one but we got to remove it right away.

10:43Ben Meiselas:And I don't take this action lightly because tariffs never work. As you go on and watch the speech, he goes, I want to remind everybody tariffs, especially if used more broadly, that's what caused the Great Depression. Like that's what the broader speech was about. And that's what he threw a temper tantrum of. They're like, that's what's interfering. It's wild. No, this is this is so far beyond. But, you know, every Canadian knew that there wasn't going to be a trade deal. And I was actually wondering, I was watching Prime Minister Carney the last few days because he's pretty careful guy. He doesn't play his cards very openly.

11:17He's very measured. But he was sort of laughing the other day when he said he was going to challenge Donald Trump to a bet over the Blue Jays, which, of course, we are going to win the World Series. Sorry, Ben, I love you guys, but not that much. And he said, I don't think Donald will take up the bet. I think he's afraid. I think the Prime Minister knew this was going to go south. Doug Ford knew it was going to go south. And so it's going south, but in a way that makes him look ridiculous. So, you know what, two or three days from now, he's going to be back to the table issuing another set of demands.

11:46But as for the Democrats, one comment I heard from Canadians was, why do we have to spend our taxpayers dollars to show an ad that the Democratic Party should have thought to run in the Super Bowl? So just to our Democratic friends in the U.S., how about it? How about stepping up? We could use your support. We'll be there for you, too, you know.

12:04Ben Meiselas:Well, you know, I wondered why the Democrats don't run an ad in loop of Donald Trump destroying the White House while Caroline Levitt says his main priority right now is the ballroom. Just run that for 30 seconds as 20 million Americans are about to lose their health care as Americans can't afford rent as they're losing their supplemental nutrition assistance program, etc. So I always ask you, Charlie, at the end of these interviews to direct your message to Donald Trump. We know that him and the ambassador to Canada, we know they watch all of these videos. They've sent you letters before. So we know they watch.

12:43Ben Meiselas:So what is your message right now to Donald Trump and his regime? Pete Hoogstra, come out of your hiding place. I know I live rent-free in your head, but I really want to see you spin this because you have a president who's just made himself look like such a malignant fool on the world stage. Trump's baby attitude. The fact that we're now talking about China or the United States. Oh, my God. Let's work with China. You've got to be really bad on the world stage when China, an authoritarian regime, looks like a more trustworthy partner with a better record than Donald Trump and MAGA. So, you know, Peter Hoogstra hiding in the ambassador's chambers in Ottawa.

13:28Come on out. Pick a fight with Canadians one more time because we're getting set. We've got your bags all packed for you. And as for you, Donald, man, that just was that was just. Isn't there anybody who like takes your phone away from you? because you're going to be back at the table in a few days and then you're going to make more demands. And we know we're not going to get a deal. So we're just moving on. So keep it up. Keep it up, Donald. And Pete, come on. Come on, Pete. I've asked you to go for a beer with me. Pete, one last time. Let's go for a beer. I'll try and talk to you and then we'll pack your bags and send you shipping.

14:04Ben Meiselas:Well, that'll be live or live to tape on Midas Canada. He should come on and he should talk to you and the world should see that conversation. So I'm looking forward to it. I want it in a bar. You know, we'll go watch the Blue Jays together. Come on, Pete. I'm sending them. I know you're watching. So I'll take you. I'll buy. I'll buy. Honest. And we'd love to see that. And we'll put the unedited version of it live for everybody to watch as well. Thanks, Charlie. And thanks for doing this in front of the Port of Vancouver. I think it's one of the things I love that you're doing on Midas Canada's YouTube channel, which everybody should subscribe to.

14:38Ben Meiselas:I like how you're taking both Canadians and people from around the world on the trip with you on the Resistance Tour, and they can see some of these incredible destinations within Canada. So it's great to see that. it shows why we're fighting for what we're going to fight for it's the beauty of this land we're flying on a float plane over to victoria for a big midas town hall tomorrow back to ontario we've got a whole bunch of uh road work ahead of us because we're going to defend this country you know province by province town by town city by city and the resistance is strong the resistance is strong everybody hit subscribe let's get to six million subscribers want to stay plugged in become a subscriber to our sub stack at MidasPlus.com.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Canada making sure the television advertisement that infuriated Trump runs during the World Series so the entire world can see Trump throw yet another tantrum.

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