Dems Storm Out of Hearing as Trump Hides Dark Past

17 Jul 2025 · 20 min · 8 chapters

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In short

The episode alleges Senate and House Republicans are blocking transparency about Jeffrey Epstein to protect Donald Trump. Topic: Democrats push a Senate resolution (SR 325) to release the Epstein files; Oklahoma Sen. Markwayne Mullin objects, calling it political theater, and MAGA Republicans block unanimous consent. The episode also claims Democrats walked out of a Senate hearing after Republicans refused to let them speak for 30 minutes while confirming Trump’s criminal defense lawyer, Emile Bove, to the Third Circuit—portrayed as part of an Epstein cover-up.

Key claims

Trump DOJ shut down Epstein investigations; a DOJ memo said the list doesn’t exist; Pam Bondi and Trump defense lawyers helped draft it.

Notable examples

Gwen Moore’s meme about Trump’s ties to Epstein; Jake Sherman reporting GOP frustration over amendments; Caroline Levitt calling it a “hoax”; Alan Dershowitz letter supporting Bove and calling for a Ghislaine Maxwell pardon; Senator Wyden citing an Epstein file with 4,725 wire transfers.

Guests

Caroline Levitt and Jake Sherman are quoted; Alan Dershowitz and Pam Bondi are referenced; Nick Fuentes appears via clip.

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Chapters

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Democrats Walk Out in Protest

0:45 to 3:00

Democrats leave a Senate hearing as MAGA Republicans block their attempts to speak on Trump's misconduct.

“appoint his own criminal defense lawyer, who was also involved in preparing the Epstein memo as part of this overall cover-up.”

Political Theater Allegations

3:00 to 6:00

A Republican senator accuses Democrats of using the Epstein files for political theater.

“Here's Democratic Congresswoman representative Gwen Moore.”

Democrats Mocking Trump

6:00 to 9:08

Democrats begin mocking Trump over his ties to Epstein in the House.

“wants his own criminal defense lawyer to now be a circuit court judge in the Third Circuit, one of the most powerful judicial positions in our country and a stepping stone to the Supreme Court.”

MAGA Republicans Frustrated

9:08 to 10:26

MAGA Republicans express frustration over Democratic amendments concerning Epstein.

“I know the kind of person you are, and you know this is wrong.”

Dershowitz and Epstein Controversies

11:57 to 14:00

Discussion about Alan Dershowitz's support for Emile Bove and the ongoing Epstein cover-up.

“Also, Dershowitz is calling for a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell.”

Epstein Case Developments

14:00 to 14:54

Learn about the significant updates in the Epstein case involving Trump.

“Just fired her yesterday in the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell case.”

Nick Fuentes on the MAGA Movement

14:54 to 15:42

Hear Nick Fuentes' critical perspective on the MAGA movement and Trump.

“And now he says, if you're not on board with the Epstein cover up, oh, I don't want your support.”

Historical Perspective on Populism

15:42 to 16:12

Explore the long-term view of the MAGA movement and its implications.

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0:00Ben Meiselas:Complete chaos in the United States Senate as Democrats introduce a resolution on the Senate floor to release the Epstein files, and then the MAGA Republicans block it. Oklahoma Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen objects to the release of the Epstein files, which was requested by Democratic Senator from Arizona, Senator Gallego, who requested unanimous consent on the release of the Epstein files. The MAGA Republicans block it. Let me show you the minute that happens. And then right around the same time, the Democrats in the Senate were forced to basically walk out of a hearing as the MAGA Republican senators were further trying to cover up Donald Trump's misconduct and trying to appoint his own criminal defense lawyer, who was also involved in preparing the Epstein memo as part of this overall cover-up.

0:58Ben Meiselas:There was a hearing to make Trump's criminal defense lawyer a judge in the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. Democrats walked out of that when the MAGA Republicans refused to let Democrats even speak in the Senate, refused to let them even speak for 30 minutes. So watch what happens, though, as the MAGA Republicans in the Senate object to the Democrats introducing a Senate resolution to release the files. Let's play it. Enough with the secrets. The American people deserve the truth. So I'm calling on my fellow senators to join me in demanding the Department of Justice release the Epstein files to restore public trust, affirm institutional accountability, and to prevent the politicization of justice.

1:44With that, as if in legislative session and notwithstanding Rule 22, I ask unanimous consent the Senate proceed to the consideration of SR 325 submitted earlier today. Further, I ask unanimous consent that the resolution be agreed to, the program will be agreed to, and the motions to reconsider be considered made and laid upon the table with no intervening action or debate. Is there an objection. I reserve the right to object. The senator from Oklahoma. Mr. President, this is nothing but political theater. It's so obvious that the Democrats are just using this for political football. If they're really serious about it, what happened the last four years?

2:26Where were they silent? Doing nothing but covering up for an absent president, and now all of a sudden they want to talk about transparency? Wait a minute, you figured out who ran the White House the last four years, and now all of a sudden they want to make something of this? Are you kidding me? If they're serious about it, then why didn't they say something the last four years? This is nothing more than just political theater trying to go after a president that they truly despise. With that, I object. The objection is heard.

2:57Ben Meiselas:Now, Democrats in the House are just ruthlessly mocking Donald Trump and the MAGA Republican cover-up. Here's Democratic Congresswoman representative Gwen Moore. She writes, Trump on camera when asked about his close personal ties with Jeffrey Epstein. And for those who don't know, this is the meme from that Coldplay concert in Massachusetts, where a CEO of a large company was found having an affair with his HR person on the jumbotron. But here is what the Democrats posted. Let's play it. Yeah. Oh, look at these two. All right. Come on. Now, the MAGA Republicans in the House are freaked out. As Jake Sherman, who does a good job covering all stuff on the Hill, writes, Republican members of the House Rules Committee met with Speaker of the House MAGA Mike Johnson this morning.

3:47Ben Meiselas:They are frustrated that Democrats on the Rules Committee are offering amendments on the Jeffrey Epstein situation. Republicans are expected to vote these amendments down to ensure they don't come to the House floor for a vote. In other words, they don't even want debate on the issue of releasing the Epstein files to cover up for Donald Trump. But this opens these Republicans up to sharp criticism that they are protecting Epstein. They're protecting Donald Trump. More soon than Jake Sherman writes news, Speaker Mike Johnson and his leadership team are discussing offering an Epstein-related resolution to try to quell the furor of members of the House Rules Committee.

4:29Ben Meiselas:Resolution would almost certainly be non-binding. Dems keep offering the Epstein-related amendments in the Rules Committee to release the files. Republicans on the Rules Committee are pissed they are being asked to oppose these amendments by Trump to MAGA Mike Johnson cover up the Epstein files. And GOP members want political cover. So what MAGA Mike's trying to give them right now is, well, let's symbolically say Epstein is bad, but we're not going to release the files. By the way, we also learned moments ago that the White House is now opposing any special prosecutor to look further into the Epstein files and the Epstein list.

5:08Ben Meiselas:As I mentioned, the Trump DOJ shut down all investigations into Epstein, not only saying that the list doesn't exist, although Trump later says it did exist, but it's a Democrat hoax. The Republicans shut down the investigations that were ongoing into Epstein co-conspirators. Now, Donald Trump's top DOJ officials, in addition to Pam Bondi, who used to be the attorney general of Florida during the relevant time period when Epstein was engaged in sex trafficking, was Donald Trump's criminal defense lawyers. Emile Bove, top position at the DOJ, and Donald Trump's other criminal defense lawyers running the DOJ.

5:47Ben Meiselas:So what they were doing is they were involved in writing the DOJ memo. No one signed it. That basically said, we're never releasing the Epstein list. It doesn't exist and fueling the cover up. Now, Emile Bove, he was having a hearing to be confirmed because Trump wants his own criminal defense lawyer to now be a circuit court judge in the Third Circuit, one of the most powerful judicial positions in our country and a stepping stone to the Supreme Court. So he's going to put Bove, his criminal defense lawyer, who's part of the DOJ covering up the Epstein list as one of the most powerful judges in the country right now.

6:26Ben Meiselas:So Democrats just wanted to speak about it for 30 minutes. The MAGA Republicans in the Senate blocked the Democrats from even speaking about it. And the Democrats walked out. You'll see the Democratic senator booker who used to be who's the ranking member of the judiciary committee in the senate he calls them out here watch this we just want to be heard before a controversial vote sir this is wrong and you know it you are a person of integrity how could you be doing this at least have a vote on my point of order sir with all appeals to your decency with all appeals to your integrity with all appeals to past jurisdiction and past president.

7:10Why are you doing this? This is outrageous. This is a kangaroo court. That's what we have here. This is wrong to violate your own rules without going by the mandates of the parliamentarian. This is unbelievable. There's a way to do this. If you want to force this through, if you want to ram this through, There's a way to do it in accordance to the rules as spelled out by the parliamentarian. It is simple. It is clear. There's a pathway to achieve what you're trying to achieve. But, sir, this lacks decency. It lacks decorum. It shows that you do not want to simply hear from your colleagues. This is absolutely wrong.

7:54And sir, this is to me one of those moments where we are not showing common respect for each other on both sides. I have sat here when we were in the majority and listened to my colleagues' arguments, listened to their passionate statements, and then we voted. This is not that. This is us simply trying to rush through one of the most controversial nominees we've had under this presidential administration. Sir, God bless America. You are a good man. You are a decent man. why are you doing this what is donald trump saying to you that are making you do something which is violating the decorum of this committee the rules of this committee the decency and the respect that we have each other to at least hear each other out nomination i've sat through so many long speeches of my colleagues heard their objections roll on listen with with sincerity to try to see what their arguments are but we are not doing that sir this is wrong and you know it There are some people on this committee who are the least firebrand people, and they've walked out.

8:58Some of the least controversial people in the Senate, some of the people that worked the hardest to find bipartisan common ground, have just walked out of this committee. And you don't even seem to care, but I know you do. I know your heart, Senator Grassley. This is wrong. I know the kind of person you are, and you know this is wrong. There's no, this is not necessary. What is another half an hour to allow senators to be heard? It's what the Constitution mandates. It's the ideals of the United States Senate. The world's most deliberative body should take a decent amount of time to deliberate.

9:32But here we're not doing that. Here we are jamming this through with some sense of false urgency. It's one thing not to hear from whistleblowers. It's another thing not to hold another hearing. But to not even allow my colleagues to have their moment to speak against this justice is just wrong. And I know you know this. I know you know this. The only time this rule has ever been overturned by both parties was done when one minority was trying to pull some stunt to stop the committee from hearing. This is not that. This is not the two hour rule. This is a basic element of the ideals of this committee, sir.

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11:57Ben Meiselas:Should also be noted that Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, before Epstein died, Alan Dershowitz was Epstein's lawyer, Dershowitz submitted a letter in support of Emile Bove, saying of the judge, saying that he should be a judge. Also, Dershowitz is calling for a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell. We heard from Caroline Levitt, who says that the Epstein hoax is that Democrats are making a big deal about it and she blames the Democrats. Let's play it. Thank you for being with us today. Sure. Jackie. Thank you, Caroline. There's been a lot of discussion about the Epstein files and the president's comments yesterday calling it a hoax.

12:37Can you clarify which part of the Epstein hoax is the hoax part? The president is referring to the fact that Democrats have now seized on this as if they ever wanted transparency when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, which is an asinine suggestion for any Democrat to make. The Democrats had control of this building, the White House, for four years, and they didn't do a dang thing when it came to transparency in regards to Jeffrey Epstein and his heinous crimes. It was this president who directed the Department of Justice and the attorney general to do an exhaustive review of all files related to Jeffrey Epstein, which they did.

13:14The attorney general and the FBI, led by Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, Kash Patel. These are great patriots, some of the most trusted voices in the Republican Party movement. It's part of the reason the president appointed him, appointed them to these high law enforcement positions. And they spent many months going through all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein. And they concluded what they found in that memo, which they drafted and they released. And so the president has been transparent. He has followed through on his promises to the American people. But he doesn't like to see Democrats and the mainstream media covering this like it's the biggest story that the American people care about.

13:51The president has been working so hard this week. On Tuesday, he went to Pennsylvania.

13:55Ben Meiselas:And then right here, Caroline Levitt says that she refuses to answer a question why Donald Trump fired the lead prosecutor. Just fired her yesterday in the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell case. Here play this clip. He agrees with them on that. Why did you hire Maureen Comey? The Department of Justice did, and I would defer you to them. Dasha. Another important development in the Epstein case today. Senator Wyden writes, big news for my investigation on Epstein sex trafficking operation. The Trump administration has an Epstein file detailing 4 ,725 wire transfers and almost $1.1 billion flowing through just one of his banks, hundreds of millions of more through others.

14:41Ben Meiselas:And New York Times wrote an article about that as well. And then I'll just leave you with this. Nick Fuentes, who is a who was a Trump supporter and you support Republicans. Here's what he has to say about all of this. Let's play it. And now he says, if you're not on board with the Epstein cover up, oh, I don't want your support. You're a weakling. Fuck you. Fuck you. You suck. You are fat. You are a joke. You are stupid. You are not funny. You are not as smart as you think you are. you are and honestly i'm and if you watch my show you know i've been very critical i've never been this far this just goes to show this entire thing has been a scam when we look back on the history of populism in america we are going to look back on the maga movement as the biggest scam in american history and the liberals were right the maga supporters were had they were When we look back in history, we will see Trump as a scam artist who served as a vehicle for this rather than the other way around.

15:50We were not the vehicle for Trump. Trump was the vehicle for all of us.

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