In short
The episode argues that Fox News’ coverage of Donald Trump and related scandals “collapses” after Trump’s alleged cover-up backfires. It centers on Ghislaine Maxwell’s interview with Todd Blanche (DOJ Deputy Attorney General, described as Trump’s former criminal defense attorney), where Maxwell claims “there is no list” of Epstein associates and denies incriminating Trump. The host contrasts this with DOJ filings calling Maxwell a convicted sex trafficker and perjurer, and criticizes Fox for treating Maxwell’s claims as news. Notable examples include Fox guests dismissing “Epstein list” speculation, discussion of John Bolton’s raid over alleged classified documents, and segments mocking “woke” branding controversies (Cracker Barrel logo change, Smithsonian exhibits). Guests mentioned: Todd Blanche; Ghislaine Maxwell; Jonathan Turley; Sean Duffy; Jesse Waters; Shannon Bream; Janet; Kevin McCarthy; plus a California gubernatorial candidate.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFox News and Trump's Cover-Up
0:29 to 1:52
Analyzing the chaos at Fox News during Trump's cover-up of his Epstein connections.
“Ghislaine Maxwell was saying the most horrifically obvious lies.”
Interview Highlights and Reactions
1:52 to 3:39
Discussing the fallout from Ghislaine Maxwell's interview and Fox's responses.
“They had their like legal analyst, this guy Turley, who's always, you know, Donald Trump sycophant.”
Claims of No Client List
3:39 to 5:10
Examining the claims made by Maxwell that there is no client list.
“We just found out there's no list from the convicted sex trafficker.”
Trump's DOJ and Classified Documents
5:10 to 6:46
Exploring Trump's DOJ actions concerning classified documents and the raid on Bolton.
“So Bolton's home and business office was raided because the Trump regime said that he has classified documents from when he worked with Donald Trump during Trump's first administration.”
Nuclear Reactors on the Moon?
6:46 to 9:38
Discussing the bizarre proposal of nuclear reactors on the moon and its implications.
“Donald Trump stole nuclear secrets when he was out of office, remember?”
Cracker Barrel Controversy
9:38 to 14:00
Analyzing the controversy around Cracker Barrel's logo change.
“Oh, and then what is the other issue to try to distract us that they talked about on Fox all the time?”
Critique of Smithsonian Exhibits
14:00 to 14:22
Discussion on controversial exhibits in Smithsonian museums reflecting political views.
“Then you have a guest on the Laura Ingraham show talking about how, why we need to shut down Smithsonian museums.”
Kevin McCarthy's Stock Market Remarks
14:22 to 15:47
Analysis of Kevin McCarthy's comments on the stock market and economic outlook.
“And during my tour today, when you first walk into the Museum of American History, this confronts you.”
Economic Woes and Interest Rates
15:47 to 16:49
Discussion on the Federal Reserve's impact on the economy and potential stagflation.
“You know, I work with a lot of people in AI defense and health care and others.”
Redistricting and Political Blame
16:49 to 18:30
Examination of California's redistricting process and accusations against Democrats.
“So we may need to basically have stimulus in the form of interest rates cuts.”
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Right-Wing Culture and Dating
18:30 to 19:28
Discussion on right-wing media's portrayal of dating culture and social issues.
“have Fox having a whole segment about right wing people dating each other, wearing jeans because they feel hot like Sidney Sweeney is hot in jeans.”
Transcript
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0:30Ben Meiselas:State regime media known as Fox was in a total freefall on live TV yesterday as Donald Trump tried to cover up his connections with Jeffrey Epstein by dropping the interview between his former criminal defense attorney, Todd Blanche, who's now the number two at the DOJ, and Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine Maxwell was saying the most horrifically obvious lies. She was saying, Donald Trump has always been a perfect gentleman. I've never seen Donald Trump do anything wrong at all. I barely knew him. I think my dad may have known Donald Trump, and that's how we were introduced. But I went to maybe a few events.
1:10Ben Meiselas:Oh, and by the way, Epstein and Young Girls, it was really just about introducing Epstein to music. Epstein wasn't creepy or anything. I mean, that's the type of stuff that Ghislaine Maxwell was saying. We've been covering it at length here on the Midas Touch Network. So Laura Ingraham brings on this guest and asks, so, you know, what do you think? There's a lot of people who say, you know, could this be just self-serving so she can position to get a pardon? And then the guest on Fox literally short circuits and like the camera cuts off. Here, watch this. That's their take that, of course, she was going to say this because she wants a pardon.
1:48She wanted better digs and she got transferred. And you say?
1:56Well, apparently he says nothing.
1:58Ben Meiselas:That is part of the overall coverup. You know, Fox was ready to go. They had their like legal analyst, this guy Turley, who's always, you know, Donald Trump sycophant. And he goes on the various shows and he's like, you know, for everybody who thought that Ghislaine Maxwell was going to have some bombshells about Donald Trump, they were very disappointed. Here, play this clip. Well, this is a terrible buzzkill for most of the media in this town. I think that anything short of a picture of Trump with the entire cast of the Rockettes would have been disappointing, given all of the media and speculation, saying that he was a perfect gentleman or didn't see any even massages going on.
2:41is not what many in this town had hoped for. There's been this narrative that Trump has engaged in everything from Ukraine to cracking down on crime in D.C. as a distraction of what Maxwell was going to reveal.
2:57Ben Meiselas:OK, she's a convicted sex trafficker. She was charged with perjury. I mean, in all of the DOJ filings in her case where she was convicted as a sex trafficker of minors, they said what a liar she was. And it's obvious. I mean, the fact that the DOJ literally gets into bed with a convicted sex trafficker and moves her from Tallahassee to a minimum security facility in Bryan, Texas, after all of this, is not just mind boggling, but shows the utter rot in this Trump regime. Going back to Jonathan Turley right here, Jonathan Turley's like, and people were wondering if there was going to be an Epstein list.
3:35Ben Meiselas:But Ghislaine Maxwell tells us that there's no list. We just found out there's no list from the convicted sex trafficker. And she's credible, isn't she? No, she isn't. She's a convicted sex trafficker. Nobody wanted an interview with Ghislaine Maxwell. We said release the files, not release Ghislaine Maxwell. What are y 'all doing here? Play this clip. Well, the list is probably the most newsy aspect so far. You know, there has been this speculation that there's this hidden list, the insurance policy that was being held and that she would be the most likely custodian of that list. She just outright says that list doesn't exist.
4:20And I actually think I know how that rumor began. That's a major blow for many people that have been trying to build this narrative. The Democrats in Congress have been particularly hammering on this with in answering some of the controversies recently. They just keep on saying, I'm not going to address that because this is all an effort to hide the Epstein matter and the possible release of this list. Well, she's saying there isn't any list that she knows of.
4:49Ben Meiselas:This is how Fox tried to report it as though this was like straight news when the Ghislaine Maxwell audio and written transcripts were released from her interview with Todd Blanche, number two. They were like, we've now learned that there is no list. We all know there's a list. We know Donald Trump's name is all over the files. Release the freaking files. But here's what Fox said. Here, play this clip. Well, in just a few minutes, Martha, we've been looking through this and we can tell you the top line here is that there's no client list according to Ghislaine Maxwell and there are no high-powered individuals that were on any sort of list she did not incriminate anybody in that nine-hour interview that she did with the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch she said right here quote there is no list we'll start with that the genesis of that story I can actually trace for you is from its absolute inception if that is what you're interested in that's part of the DOJ transcript.
5:46Ben Meiselas:And then one of the things that Fox was covering as part of this overall cover up that's been going down over the past 24 to 48 hours, right, it started early Friday morning where Donald Trump ordered his DOJ and FBI, apparently at the request of Russia as well, a Russian ambassador or diplomat is taking credit for this to go after John Bolton, Donald Trump's former national security advisor. So Bolton's home and business office was raided because the Trump regime said that he has classified documents from when he worked with Donald Trump during Trump's first administration. The Trump regime tried to make this claim during their first administration, saying that Bolton wrote his book using classified information, which was proven to be inaccurate at the time.
6:30Ben Meiselas:But now you see all these people on Fox, all of these guests basically saying, look, it's a very serious matter. If you steal classified classified information, you need to be held accountable. My buddy, many a son says, I mean, you cannot make this shit up. You just can't. I have no words. Donald Trump stole nuclear secrets when he was out of office, remember? And he put them all over Mar-a-Lago. You're playing this clip. Look, you know, I don't want to denigrate that. You know, it's not like he's got classified docs. What's the big deal? Having worked in a classified environment, I had the TS clearances and all of that.
7:02It's serious as a heart attack. I used to have a stroke if I thought, oh my God, that I take a piece of paper out. You can't do that. That is really, really important. And if it turns out that the former ambassador to the U.N. had top secret documents lying around in his
7:16Ben Meiselas:kitchen, then I'm sorry, it's indefensible. Then you have Sean Duffy, Donald Trump's transportation secretary. He's talking about what's on all of our minds, I know, which is that we all need a sustained presence on the moon and nuclear reactors on the moon. I know. I mean, And yes, they promised us that things would get more affordable. Yes, they promised us that we would all be able to, there would be no more wars throughout the world. Yes, they made all of these promises that education, health care would be. Yeah, they made all these promises. But actually now they're saying nuclear reactors and sustained presence on the moon.
7:51Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. One of the key areas of the moon is the South Pole. We have ice. Ice means water. But if you're going to have a sustained presence on the moon, you need power, right? I don't think we want to send shipments of coal to the moon. We can have some solar. But the greatest energy source, the best energy source is nuclear. And so if you want to stay in life, that's the power source we're going to use. Now, liberals have said, oh, we're going to have bombs on the moon. No, this is about power. I've officially found my favorite summer shirt, and I've got to tell you all about poncho.
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9:39Ben Meiselas:Oh, and then what is the other issue to try to distract us that they talked about on Fox all the time? The restaurant Cracker Barrel. They changed their logo, logo. There was like a white guy on their logo. And now it just says Cracker Barrel. And now all of the competitors like Steak and Shake are saying that it's so woke and woke Cracker Barrel. They went from talking about Sidney Sweeney's jeans and that we should all be liberals are apparently mad at Sidney Sweeney's jeans, which no one was mad about. And now liberals are mad about Cracker Barrel. No, y 'all are just making up weirdo issues and then saying liberals are mad at it to cover up the fact that Donald Trump has the most disastrous presidency right now in history or play this clip.
10:23Ben Meiselas:Yeah, no, he's not yet. He said he found Christ in the parking lot of a Cracker Barrel. To Joe, though, what do you think is the motivation here for Cracker Barrel? Earlier this week, I forwarded that it's actually part of this thing that people have talked about, which is refinement syndrome. Everything in aesthetics, from logos to cars to interior design to architecture, has been refined into everything looking the same, even fashion. We all look the same we listen to the same music we wear the same clothes we we frequent the same restaurants as part of the monoculture and we're losing everything that's unique on the other hand here's this theory about the human rights council and what might actually be motivating cracker barrel yeah i mean conformity is so boring right guys and cracker barrel broke one of the cardinal rules of life if it ain't broke don't fix it i mean this is like messing with the nike swoosh like with McDonald's arches, Starbucks logo.
11:23So yes, this, I believe, is a crime against humanity. And whoever made this decision needs to pay, pay, pay. And I mean, just ask the geniuses who decided to change Coke to New Coke. Why do that? Why mess with a good thing? Or whoever thought changing the redskins to the commanders was a good idea, Will, also hopefully that gets reversed one day.
11:41Ben Meiselas:I second that. And by the way, does it look like Sean Duffy's literally like decaying before our eyes? I mean, this guy looks like he weighs like 95 pounds right now. Anyway, and Sean Duffy says, we just want to let all the aliens know out there, we come in peace. We are a peaceful people when we come over and take over the moon. Here, play this clip. Why do we want a sustained presence on the moon? There was a time where people would say that if you control the sea, you control the world. I think in the future, he who controls space controls the world. And so making sure, by the way, we always come in peace.
12:15America has a long record of not taking people's territory, you know, winning wars and giving people's land back. So we have a great record. We want peace. But not everyone agrees with our peace mission, which is why we can't lose to other countries in this new space race.
12:31Ben Meiselas:Seriously, more from Jesse Waters on Cracker Barrel here. Here, play this clip. In the 70s and in the 80s, corporate America, probably some really drunk guys on Madison Avenue, had really unique brands. and they had spunk and personality. And over the years, everything's kind of winnowed down to the same boring insignia. You see it in cars, you see it in graphics and everything. Why is that? Is it because no one's doing hallucinogenic drugs anymore? Did they get rid of the three martini lunch? Are there too many women making the commercial brand? I'm just throwing stuff out there, Shannon Bream, but I hate the new age branding.
13:12We got to go back to Cracker Barrel. Everything should look like Cracker Barrel. Everything. That feels extreme. But, Janet, Jesse is right that this is.
13:23Ben Meiselas:Or really does it feel extreme? Here's Jesse Waters again whining about John Bolton, Donald Trump's former national security advisor. Play this clip. And we know it's not about revenge. They wouldn't go after this guy the way they're doing it if it was just a tit for tat. So I can't tell you what they are looking for, but it looks pretty damning. That's what I'm hearing. And here, even Jesse Waters is a little bit confused about, wait a minute, Ghislaine Maxwell saying there's no list. I'm not really sure we buy that. Here, play this clip. The list doesn't exist. So flight manifests don't exist.
13:58The surveillance tapes don't exist. The bank records don't exist.
14:02Ben Meiselas:Then you have a guest on the Laura Ingraham show talking about how, why we need to shut down Smithsonian museums. There's just so many exhibits that are in Spanish and that feature migrant worker protests. And why is this in museums? So that's why we got to shut it down. Here, play this clip. And during my tour today, when you first walk into the Museum of American History, this confronts you. It says, fight the virus, not the people. Stop Asian hate. Is this 2021? Then you turn the corner, Laura. And most of the exhibits are in English and Spanish. Even Dorothy's Ruby Zapato's are now bilingual.
14:44That's right. Dorothy has her little zapalitas or whatever they're calling them there in the exhibit. But I found an exhibit of a border patrol uniform and an illegal migrant outfit, Laura. How is that reflective of American history? Now, this is an exhibit about the American people, and they featured this migrant AG workers protest statue. And the real question is, Does this reflect the best of America, Laura? And does it fulfill the Smithsonian's mission, which is to impart knowledge that brings us to a shared future? A lot of this stuff only divides and makes partisan political points.
15:22Ben Meiselas:Oh, and then you had Kevin McCarthy, the former disgraced Speaker of the House, bragging that his stock portfolio is doing well right now. Play this clip. How'd the McCarthy family do today in the stock market? We were up today. You know, I left government, so I had some money to invest now. It's much better. Good. And do you think the American people are starting to feel the golden age? Oh, do I think? I know. I see it. I hear it. You know, I work with a lot of people in AI defense and health care and others. And entrepreneurs are so excited. They want to take their companies public again. They want to take a risk.
15:58They want to invest. And that just means more boats are going to be rising and more opportunities for more people to buy houses. As soon as that Fed chair finally lowers the rate, you're going to see housing take off. Yeah, he's got to unlock the housing market so you can get the American dream again. That's the key. Yeah, it is. Just got to get rid of too late, Jerome.
16:16Ben Meiselas:And folks, do you realize that the markets went up on Friday on the news that interest rates may be cut because our economy is doing so bad? That's how the rich get richer, just so you all know, right? So on Friday, the Federal Reserve talked about how our economy is basically tanking, how we're heading into a stagflationary period. They didn't use those exact words, but they may as well have. Unemployment is surging. GDP is decreasing. Inflation is rising. All those factors equal stagflation. But basically what the Federal Reserve is saying, we may just have to readjust our thinking right now as a result of how bad the economy is actually doing.
16:57Ben Meiselas:So we may need to basically have stimulus in the form of interest rates cuts. And therefore, people, the corporations like interest rates cuts. Now we could borrow more. I mean, and at the end, at the end of the day, that doesn't help people. That doesn't help regular folks. Oh, and then on Fox, they're whining about the redistricting taking place here. Play this clip. So is there any concern that this is this is going to spread and get so out of control that we start, Republicans start losing states. And they bring on this Republican guy who's running for governor in California and he blames Democrats for all the redistricting stuff.
17:37Ben Meiselas:Play this clip. Truth is that what California voters chose over 10 years ago in two ballot initiatives in 2008 and 2010 for an independent process, that's what I think most people actually want. However, that independent process in California was hijacked by the Democrats. That's why it's just not true to say that Texas started this. The California Democrats took the independent process, totally corrupted it. For example, the lawyers that they hired to do the process were DNC lawyers who were the lawyers for the Obama-Biden campaign. The guy that they hired to do the maps was the exact same Democrat activist that they've just hired to do this second round of rigged maps.
18:22So I think we should go back to the integrity of the independent system. But that is not what we have in California right now.
18:29Ben Meiselas:And then to add insult to weirdoness and to make this even one step weirder, you then have Fox having a whole segment about right wing people dating each other, wearing jeans because they feel hot like Sidney Sweeney is hot in jeans. And that makes liberals mad. Folks, can we just vote these idiots out? Could we just vote these crazy? These are crazy. These are really bizarre, crazy people. Just vote them out and stick up to these people. Don't let these people bully you. These are a bunch of weirdos. Here, play this clip. Very on theme. The left tried to cancel Sidney Sweeney for her American Eagle jeans ad.
19:08Why do you think they came after her? Because I think these are very angry, hate-filled people. And she represents America. She represents small-town America. It's because she's hot and liberals don't like hot people. It's fun to fight back a little and say, you know what? We're going to throw out our jeans. We're going to celebrate this. What it means to be good looking and hot.
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