Fox News Collapses on Air as Trump Makes Fatal Decision

28 Sep 2025 · 24 min · 10 chapters

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In short

The host and guests discuss Fox News coverage and argue that Trump allies are threatening “weaponization” retaliation and using alleged “revenge/retribution” rhetoric, while also attacking Democrats’ claims about the economy, indictments, and foreign policy (including Venezuela and UN escalator/sabotage talk). They also debate the legal case against James Comey, claiming it’s weak and politically motivated.

Guests (named in transcript)

Pam Bondi (Attorney General, described as ending DOJ “weaponization” and threatening investigations); J.D. Vance (commentator/VP candidate, argues Biden caused economic problems and supports strikes tied to Venezuela); Senator McCormick of Pennsylvania (claims “$17 trillion” inbound FDI); Jessica Tarlov (Fox panelist pushing back on Fox’s claims); Jesse Waters (Fox host/panelist); Josh Hawley (discusses Venezuela strikes and “commander in chief” authority).

Key claims/examples

“Mutually assured destruction” revenge framing; “$17 trillion” FDI claim challenged; Comey indictment dismissed as a leak case; UN escalator “sabotage” questioned; Democrats accused of shutting down government for “$1 trillion” for illegal immigrants’ healthcare.

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Fox News and Political Accountability

0:45 to 0:58

Discussion about Fox News' portrayal of political accountability relating to Trump and current political figures.

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Fox News and Political Accountability

1:00 to 1:15

Discussion about Fox News' portrayal of political accountability relating to Trump and current political figures.

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Fox News and Political Accountability

2:14 to 3:48

Discussion about Fox News' portrayal of political accountability relating to Trump and current political figures.

“State regime media known as Fox is spiraling out of control on live TV, folks.”

J.D. Vance and Economic Blame

3:48 to 5:00

Analysis of J.D. Vance's remarks on the economy and the shifting blame to previous administrations.

“We will investigate you and we will end the weaponization.”

McCormick's Economic Claims

5:00 to 5:48

Critique of Senator McCormick's claims about the economy and foreign investment.

“He's been a lifelong loser who shapeshifts and just says all this weird crap just to try to ingratiate himself in power.”

Fox Hosts' Authoritarian Rhetoric

5:48 to 7:37

Exploration of threats made by Fox hosts regarding political opposition and accountability.

“a better job at articulating it or they're going to continue to be attracted to people like Mondami.”

James Comer and the Oversight Committee

7:37 to 8:42

Discussion on James Comer's statements about pursuing political enemies and the implications.

“Here's the thing you got to remember about mutually assured destruction.”

Jessica Tarlov's Counterpoints

8:42 to 10:48

Jessica Tarlov presents counterarguments to the claims made by Fox hosts regarding the legal issues at hand.

“Anyway, you have James Comer says, you know what?”

Final Thoughts and Conclusion

12:22 to 14:01

Wrap-up of the discussion reflecting on the implications of the topics covered.

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Analyzing Trump's Legal Challenges

14:01 to 23:52

Discussion on the implications and nuances of Trump's legal issues.

“If you wanted to get dismissed, maybe for selective prosecution, look no further than the president's social media posts or what he's saying to those gaggles.”
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3:02Ben Meiselas:Maybe we should call her Baghdad Bondi. I know Laura Loomer used to call her Blondie, but maybe we call her Baghdad Bondi. It's a good nickname here. Play this clip. All the way through the Hunter Biden laptop suppressed, all the way through weaponization. Pam, I'm nervous for the country when I put it all together. You shouldn't be nervous any longer because Donald Trump is in office and the weaponization has ended. We've made that very clear. Whether you're a former FBI director, whether you're a former head of an intel community, whether you are a current state or local elected official, whether you're a billionaire funding organizations to try to keep Donald Trump out of office.

3:46Everything is on the table. We will investigate you and we will end the weaponization. No longer will there be a two-tier system of justice. And we are working hand in hand, Director Patel and I, Todd Blanche, with our incredible intel community, Tulsi Gabbard, John Radcliffe, going nonstop around the clock. People will be held accountable.

4:11Ben Meiselas:Then you have J.D. Vance going on North Korean media. I mean, state regime media known as Fox. And he goes, look, people are suffering out there. Housing is too expensive. Groceries are too expensive. Tell him the truth. He goes, but it's all the fault of former President Biden. He did this to you right now. Like, are y 'all going to keep saying this forever? It's Biden's fault. It's Obama's fault. Nah, it's your fault. You were the ones who said you would fix it in 24 hours. But y 'all are just a bunch of babies, perpetual victims, this crew, right? A bunch of losers. When I look at J.D. Vance with his eyeliner and his weirdo behavior and look, I say loser because that's who he is.

5:00Ben Meiselas:He's been a lifelong loser who shapeshifts and just says all this weird crap just to try to ingratiate himself in power. and people buy it. Weak, stupid people buy this routine because we know a loser when we see one and it's JD loser Vance. Here, play this clip. Housing is too expensive. Groceries are too expensive. Now I would say they're too expensive because we inherited a disastrous Biden economy and we're making progress. It's only been eight months, but we've made a lot of progress. But unless we give young people a stake in the future, we can't dismiss their concerns as socialism. They're going to choose socialism if given an option between free stuff and a bad life.

5:39We have to make sure they have an option between free stuff and a real life of dignity, of purpose. That's what the American conservative movement can provide to them. But we've got to do a better job at articulating it or they're going to continue to be attracted to people like Mondami. Next up, Fox then brings on Senator McCormick of Pennsylvania.

5:58Ben Meiselas:And he goes, folks, in contrast to what J.D. Vance just said, McCormick, they don't get their talking points. A little crisscrossed here. He goes, the economy is on fire. MAGA Republican Senator McCormick goes, he goes, we just brought in$17 trillion of inbound foreign direct investment. Hey, McCormick, where's that$17 trillion? One of the oddities about this regime and all their sycophantic propagandists like McCormick is the lie is so outrageous. It is that Goebbels routine, right? The bigger lie you tell 17 trillion. You've brought in nothing over the past year. The deficit fiscal year, two trillion dollar deficit right there.

6:45Ben Meiselas:So what the heck are you talking about here? Play this clip. First of all, I completely agree with you on the economy. It's on fire. I was just in Europe. I mean, they would die. There's not a country in the world that wouldn't die for our economy. 3.8 percent GDP,$17 trillion of inbound foreign direct investment. It's an incredible economy. It's getting better. And this is going to be great. And consumer confidence among small businesses at an all time high. So there's lots of good data. Yep. Making up numbers. And then they just go full fledged authoritarian and fascist. Here you have Greg Gutfeld, one of the Fox hosts right here, says, when you come for us, you better finish the job because we're coming after you.

7:30Ben Meiselas:This is payback time. This is what they're putting out on Fox. Sounds like a threat because it is one. Here, play this clip. It's justice. Here's the issue. Here's the thing you got to remember about mutually assured destruction. it doesn't work when you go first and we're still standing that's what just happened when you come for us you kind of got to finish the job because now we're in power and we're pay it's payback revenge i don't care what you call it i don't care what the media calls it they have lost the privilege of our attention they called they said collusion was real and the laptop was fake facts about covid were disinformation joe biden was president the biggest scandal of our career and they still haven't they still haven't paid for that so you know what we don't care then you have james comer who leads the house oversight committee one of the people trying to cover up the epstein files but thankfully the democrats are fighting back you saw those documents the democrats got out on friday they keep on pushing maybe it looked like musk may have been going to the island based on some of those records and you had other wealthy Trump friends right there in those documents.

8:43Ben Meiselas:Anyway, you have James Comer says, you know what? People like Dr. Fauci and Hunter Biden, this is just the beginning. We're coming after all of Donald Trump's political enemies next. They're just saying it out loud. There's a word for this. It starts with an F. Is it fascism? Is it authoritarianism? Here play this clip. But he's not the only person, Sean, that's lied to Congress. Dr. Fauci's lied to the House Oversight Committee. Hunter Biden lied to the House Oversight Committee. Jim Biden lied to the Oversight Committee. There are criminal referrals there as well. And I think that that Comey is the first step in what many people in America that believe in the Constitution and want to see justice, I believe, is the first step with Comey.

9:25And I think there are going to be many more. Finally, we're going to see accountability. And, you know, God bless Donald Trump and his administration, Tulsi and John Ratliff and Pam Bondi and Kash Patel for exposing the corruption in the deep state agencies. And Jim Jordan's right. Comey was the first person that started this all. And I think now we're going to see the phase of accountability.

9:50Ben Meiselas:That's what we've all been been working so hard in these congressional investigations for. Gotta give a shout out to Jessica Tarlov right here as well. She's been great on The Five, one of the only strong voices on Fox pushing back. And here's what she has to say. And then Jesse Waters is like, well, then why can't you? Why can't Donald Trump go on social media and go after his political enemies and take over the Justice Department via social media post? Here, play this clip. The good news is, is that this has already been investigated and Comey has already been vindicated. So there was a special counsel as there's supposed to be.

10:27And when you say they, they, they, they, what the Democrats did that was appropriate is there was a special counsel named Jack Smith. And he's the one that brought the charges because you can't have a president getting on social media or straight to your face and saying... Why can't you? What are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it? Trump had to beat the case. You're going to lose in court. That's what happened. And then Trump won the election. So when you guys start winning elections, you guys can start calling the shots. He has appointed enough members of the Supreme Court to get away with everything.

10:55And that's essentially what's going on here.

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13:04Ben Meiselas:Actually, Eric Siebert, the Republican former head of that office who trump and republicans pick was a republican earplay this clip he has appointed enough members of the supreme court to get away with everything and that's essentially what's going on here so you had michael horowitz who is the special counsel who said in his report the overwhelming weight of that evidence supports comey's version of the conversation they also tried to go after andy mccabe they couldn't pull that up he never interviewed I think that everybody should pay attention to what Andy McCarthy was saying this morning, and he has a piece up in the National Review.

13:40The indictment against Comey should be dismissed. He said to Maria Bartiromo, this indictment is not about the Russia investigation, which is what you want to make it seem like. But it's not at all. It's completely detached from that investigation. And it seems to be premised on something that's not true. I don't think there's a case. I love Ted, about Ted Cruz, but McCabe never said that Comey authorized it. This is about leaking to the press. Don't think that the case gets to trial. If you wanted to get dismissed, maybe for selective prosecution, look no further than the president's social media posts or what he's saying to those gaggles.

14:10And also, it makes no sense to me why Donald Trump doesn't like Jim Comey, because Comey delivered him the election. If he had not come out 11 days before talking about whatever's on Anthony Weiner's laptop and then saying, oh, actually, there's no problem. You would have had two terms of Hillary Clinton and you would have liked it because it would have been amazing. I did notice. Also, Lindsay Halligan is the only lawyer that will do this. Don't you think it's weird that the entire Eastern District doesn't want their hands anywhere near us because it's such a bummer of a case? Because these are Democrat prosecutors.

14:40Every single one. They are. Okay. She's an insurance lawyer with no experience. She had to even go in front of the grand jury herself because she couldn't get a sidekick to even stand up there. Who do you like people who are achievers? Who was the lawyer in Atlanta that was so great? What was her name? I only carry cash. Fonny Willis is not just a lawyer. Fonny Willis.

14:59Ben Meiselas:I think she's better than Fonny. Then you have Jesse Waters bringing Josh Hawley. Take a look at this. Play this clip. So we're looking at this NBC News report that the administration's considering strikes inside Venezuela proper. Do you support that? Listen, I would just say this. The president has the authority as the commander in chief to protect the United States. He's got the authority to protect us from foreign terrorist organizations, which is what these previous boats that have been hit, carrying people who are part of foreign terrorist organizations. I just think he has the right to protect us from an invasion by any means.

15:34And based on what I know, based on what you're reporting, based on what he's done in the past, I think he's got every right to do this, to keep us safe, to prevent pirating, to prevent the entry of illegal drugs and narcotics into this country. And I would just say to all those folks who are out there doing this stuff, if you don't want to get blown up, then knock it off. You know, stop it. Stop bringing this stuff into our country. Stop endangering us.

15:55Ben Meiselas:Oh, really? More of Baghdad Bondi right here? And she's like, what you need to realize is Director Patel is restoring integrity. Y 'all are covering up the Epstein files, filing the most absurd and frivolous criminal indictments against your political enemies. But go ahead, play the clip. How do we get there? Well, by what we've been doing, by continuing, we will investigate everyone who committed wrongdoing, working hand in hand with all of our current agencies. Director Patel is restoring integrity. There are so many great men and women in the FBI, in DEA, in ATF, in our marshals. We're working every day to keep America safe, to make these horrible cities with Memphis.

16:38We're going to make Memphis safe. We're there this week. Just this week, Sean, we took 500 pounds of pills off this street. We took 800 pounds of fentanyl off this street. Sinaloa cartel. We're doing that, but we're also going to hold those accountable who have committed the worst of the worst of weaponization. And that's on all fronts. So the people of this country will be safe in more than one way.

17:06Ben Meiselas:Again, here Jesse Waters just says the quiet part out loud. He goes, this is revenge. This is retribution. This is what we're doing. We're punishing you, he says. This is what they're saying on Fox. If you watched Russian propaganda TV, if you've watched North Korean propaganda TV, this is what happens. I mean, and just Jesse Waters, by the day, looks more and more again like a cartoonish villain. Here, play this clip. And Jesse, it seems like another case of Democrats doing a whole lot and then not liking being held accountable to their own rules yeah they're just mad trump's doing to them what they did to them so i don't care what you call it on with greg revenge retribution accountability who cares it's happening and i'm enjoying it because these people need to be punished if someone declares war on you what are you going to just turn the other cheek you're right it is an eye for an eye and i hope we win they're asking like oh well this is like the revenge tour well what would the revenge be for, Jessica?

18:09What would the revenge be for? No one really answers that question. All right. It's because they arrested him. They arrested his campaign manager, his campaign advisor, his lawyers, his national security advisor. They arrested his trade advisor and put him in shackles. They arrested his CFO. They arrested his valet. And not only that, They spied on him, staged a coup, impeached him twice, tried to bankrupt his company, leaked his tax returns, and then couldn't protect him from a sniper. So what are you supposed to do? They didn't think this was going to happen. They're stupid. They did, which is why Biden gave preemptive pardons, because he knew that you were a vengeful bunch of babies.

18:52But who didn't get it? Babies. But who didn't get the pardon? Chloe missed that on the autopilot. Comey didn't get the pardon.

18:57Ben Meiselas:Then you have Maria Bartiroma whining over the escalator. five days in a row they've been talking about the escalator breaking here play this clip we just spoke with hillel neuer uh un watch executive director what did you make of all that sabotage the president goes on the escalator it stops he's reading from the teleprompter it stops uh then we're told that some of the audio of the president's speech wasn't heard from a big group of people or was someone at the un trying to sabotage president trump this week well it's really hard to say but i will say this i'm not a big fan of the un since i was in the military in 94 they left rwanda we came in we watched a million people die a million people die because the un didn't do their job uh they've been corrupt they've shown all kinds of bias against the united states against israel uh they're not on our side and that's why they're really in jeopardy of losing funding and they already have lost some funding uh they're not a straight up organization uh we have to keep a close eye on them.

19:57They have some utility, but don't trust them, that's for sure. Well, probably not a good idea to play games with President Trump while he was riding the elevator and reading a script at the UN if, in fact, the funding is already in jeopardy because of an ineffective agency. And then you've got these political tricks.

20:15Ben Meiselas:Then you have J.D. Vance saying that what the Democrats are really doing here and what they want to do is they want to shut down the government to give a trillion dollars to illegal migrants. That's what Democrats want to do, which is just, again, totally false. Democrats just want to protect the health care of Americans. They don't want to give health care to illegal aliens or illegal immigrants or whatever disparaging term you have to protect Americans' health care. The people in red states, J.D. Vance's crew, are the people who are going to suffer the most. Here play this clip. The Democrats spin machine, full force all day long.

20:50It's going to be all week long, blaming the administration for not funding the government, saying Russ Vought is threatening mass firings that are going to be permanent if the Democrats don't come to the table. To that, you said? Well, he's threatening what? He's threatening to try to find a way to make the government function if the Democrats shut it down. We have to realize the Democrats, their whole argument is we are going to shut down the government unless you give a trillion dollars for medical benefits for illegal aliens. The major health care reform that we've done in this administration is we've made it harder to give your hard earned tax dollars to medical benefits for illegal aliens.

21:27The Democrats want to undo that. And they're saying that unless you give that money to those illegal aliens, unless you give those benefits to those illegal aliens, we are going to shut down the people's government.

21:36Ben Meiselas:And lastly, even on Fox, Andy McCarthy, who's one of the Fox News contributors, he had to admit that this case against James Comey is like the worst case ever. This is even the Fox contributor. And he lays it out. He explains why. Here, play this clip. Andy, your take. I love Ted, but McCabe never said that Comey authorized it. What McCabe said was that McCabe authorized it. This is a leak to the Wall Street Journal. And then he told Comey about it later. The only way that you could convict Comey beyond a reasonable doubt is Comey would have to truly believe that he personally had authorized the leak, he would have to actually have authorized the leak, and then he would have had to know that he was lying when he denied it to the Senate.

22:24They're not even going to be able to prove that he authorized the leak because by all accounts,

22:29Ben Meiselas:he didn't. So I don't think this case even gets to trial.

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