In short
Fox News hosts and guests attack Democrats as cult-like, argue Joe Biden’s testimony is inconsistent, claim evidence of a “Russia hoax” was destroyed by Democrats, and pivot to pro-Trump claims about jobs, inflation/CPI manipulation, immigration enforcement, trade “deals,” energy policy, and culture-war distractions.
Guests (backgrounds)
James Comer (U.S. House Republican; leads investigations tied to Biden/“impeachment” narratives). Kash Patel (former Trump-aligned figure; referenced as FBI director). John Radcliffe (referenced as intelligence role). Jesse Watters (Fox host). Cory Booker (U.S. Senator; criticized). Josh Hawley (U.S. Senator; stock-trading ban bill discussion). Howard Lutnick (Wall Street billionaire; referenced as trade/finance figure). Doug Burgum (Interior Secretary; referenced). Jessica Tarlov (Fox contributor; debates Watters).
Key claims
Democrats lied about Biden; “burn bags” allegedly contained Russia-hoax documents; Trump’s trade deals are “fake” on paper yet effective; wind/solar subsidies phased out; ICE is portrayed as “hide and seek”; CPI data is being deleted; stock-trading ban exempts Trump/VP.
Notable examples
“burn bags” in a secret room tied to John Durham annex; “fight, fight, fight” critique of Booker; “fruit drying up”/jobs vs illegal immigration; ICE “deported an American? Zero times”; Hawley’s “Pelosi Act” stock-trading ban with presidential exemption; wind projects like Empire Wind/Vineyard Wind; references to Trump releasing “Epstein files.”
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFox News and the Cult Narrative
0:00 to 0:45
The discussion opens with Fox News facing collapse and a critique of Democrats as a cult.
“State regime media known as Fox is collapsing before our eyes.”
Biden's Physical Condition Debate
0:45 to 1:30
The hosts analyze claims about Biden's cognitive fitness and physical health.
“When everyone in America saw it in the debate, everyone in America saw the rapid decline over the last year of his presidency, especially the last four months of his presidency, it's almost like they're a cult.”
James Comer's Testimony and Inconsistencies
1:30 to 2:30
Discussion of James Comer's testimony regarding Biden and the inconsistencies reported.
“And so James Comer's like, you know about these burn bags?”
Cover-Ups and Trump’s Connections
2:30 to 4:01
Exploration of Trump's alleged connections with Epstein and the ongoing political narratives.
“One of the documents officials found was the classified annex to former special counsel John Durham's final report, which includes the underlying intelligence he reviewed.”
Cory Booker and Emotional Leadership
4:01 to 5:31
Debate about Senator Cory Booker's emotional appeal compared to Trump's leadership style.
“He goes, you know, real leaders, he goes like Donald Trump, they don't show emotions at all.”
Inflation and Economic Claims
5:31 to 9:20
The hosts discuss rising inflation and critique the narrative around job creation.
“Donald Trump right now is destroying and deleting the CPI, the consumer price index data inputs, which helps us understand inflation.”
Fox News and Cultural Distractions
9:43 to 11:15
Discussion of Fox News' focus on cultural issues instead of pressing economic problems.
“And so this is what they were posting all day.”
Critique of Energy Policies
11:15 to 14:00
Examination of the U.S. energy policy shift away from renewables under current leadership.
“And he goes, all my Wall Street friends, Lutnick's a billionaire, by the way.”
Impact of Subsidy Phase-Out on Renewable Energy
14:00 to 15:27
Learn about the effects of phasing out subsidies on wind and solar projects.
“Here in the United States, we're focused on horse and buggies and coal.”
The Reality of Immigration Enforcement
15:28 to 17:01
Discussing the troubling implications of ICE enforcement as a game.
“They're all leaving and you don't even notice a difference because there's that many illegals in the country.”
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Josh Hawley's Stock Trading Exemption
17:02 to 19:25
Analyzing Josh Hawley's controversial stock trading exemption for Congress.
“So Trump calls Hawley a second tier senator.”
Funding for ICE vs. Social Benefits
19:26 to 20:31
Exploring the budgetary priorities between ICE funding and social benefits.
“Well, that's not the worst thing that's been said about me even today, Jesse.”
Debating Josh Hawley's Popularity
20:32 to 21:27
A light-hearted discussion on the perceived popularity of Senator Josh Hawley.
“They're just saying you can't buy Doritos with food stamps.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Ben Meiselas:State regime media known as Fox is collapsing before our eyes. Laura Ingram on live TV had James Comer come on and James Comer's like, I got to tell you, Laura, let me explain it to you. The Democrats, they're a massive cult. I keep bringing them in and they're saying that former President Biden was not cognitively addled. These Democrats are a cult. You're calling the Democrats a cult? The MAGA Republicans are quite literally a death cult for Donald Trump. But do Do tell James Coma. Do tell. Here, play this clip. Well, he didn't tell us a whole lot of what you wouldn't expect. It appears to me a lot of these Biden lackeys, they're still trying to claim that Joe Biden was in top physical condition.
0:45When everyone in America saw it in the debate, everyone in America saw the rapid decline over the last year of his presidency, especially the last four months of his presidency, it's almost like they're a cult. You know, the seven or eight people that were around Joe Biden is like a cult. But at the end of the day, his testimony wasn't consistent with others who have actually testified. About half the Biden people have fled the fifth. The other half have testified and all their testimony is inconsistent. So we're going to put the pieces together and we're going to release all the transcripts and we're going to issue a report.
1:19And hopefully we'll be able to determine whether or not Joe Biden had any idea who was using the auto pen and what they were using it for. Thus far, there's no evidence that emerges that he did know.
1:30Ben Meiselas:And as Donald Trump and James Comer and the MAGA Republicans try to cover up Donald Trump's deep, dark and sick connections with Jeffrey Epstein, they keep trying to make up more lies about 2016 and Obama and the FBI and all of these things. And so James Comer's like, you know about these burn bags? Obama used burn bags to hide Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia or something like that. And then Comer like, I knew all along these Democrats would try to destroy the evidence. I mean, y 'all are literally trying to destroy the evidence of Donald Trump's connections with Jeffrey Epstein. Y 'all are out there giving immunity deals to sex traffickers.
2:10Ben Meiselas:I mean, that is the Trump DOJ Ghislaine Maxwell. You're letting her dictate terms. But anyway, here's what James Comer says. Here, play this clip. And Congressman, as I mentioned, FBI Director Cash Patel announced that he found burn bags of Trump-Russia hoax documents in a secret room. One of the documents officials found was the classified annex to former special counsel John Durham's final report, which includes the underlying intelligence he reviewed. So I guess it's kind of an annex section of that report. Now, Congressman, maybe it was just duplicated and you do burn things. And that is not I don't want to make it like you don't ever have burn bags.
2:53You do have burn bags in the government. But what do you make of this? Look, I knew all along that the Democrats would try to destroy any evidence that would make them liable in this Russia hoax. We knew it was a Russia hoax. Fox knew it was Russia hoax. You did a great job, Laura, reporting the facts about this Russia hoax. Now, Kash Patel, who, by the way, is the right guy for the job. He's in there. We've got John Radcliffe in there, Tulsi Gabbard's in there. They're all trying to get the truth to the American people and hold people accountable. It's not just about the fact that we've proven they lied all along to try to hurt Donald Trump and destroy his presidential campaign.
3:36It's about the fact that they've lost confidence. We've lost confidence in the intelligence community. We have competent people in there now. We want them to pay a price. We want the Comeys and the Brennans and those guys to pay a price for what they did. It's illegal. It's wrong. And they need to be held accountable. And I think Kash Patel is on the right track. And God bless Kash Patel and John Radcliffe.
3:57Ben Meiselas:And then you have Jesse Waters saying, you know what? He goes, Democratic Senator Cory Booker, he shows too much emotion. He goes, you know, real leaders, he goes like Donald Trump, they don't show emotions at all. You know, as this one account says, Trump was literally a deranged, lobotomized ferret when they arrested him, ranting and raving like a maniac endlessly. Trump's the biggest crybaby ever. But anyway, play this clip. Rules for men, control your emotions. You never see Trump lose his cool, even when they arrested him and put him on trial. And you have this other Fox guest talk about how, you know, the problem with Cory Booker, Senator Booker, he's not acting like a statesman.
4:40Ben Meiselas:All he's saying is fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. And that's not what you should do. You need to really be a statesman. Y 'all are giving lectures to Democrats on behaving like a statesman. And by the way, Donald Trump's literal expression is fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. That's literally he sells fight, fight, fight shoes. Donald Trump is the least statement. statesmen, this Trump regime is the least group of statesmen. They're the biggest group of imbeciles walking around the freaking world, embarrassing the United States. Play the clip. This guy's a lawmaker, right? Your job is to make laws, not noise, not threats, and not to tell people out there, fight harder.
5:19And if you're a nutbag someplace out there and you hate Donald Trump and you hate the Republicans, and this guy is not saying we need to pass this law. we need to in other words he's not acting like a statesman he's just saying fight fight fight well that message is received by a lot of people out there and then we're all supposed to say no it's not what he meant it's not what he meant he's got to be a lot more responsible than this because he's a senator now this is not like he's some you know he's on the school board someplace he's a prominent guy yeah he talks he's got peanut butter on the roof of his mouth or whatever but the bottom line is people listen and it's an important thing and you're up there on camera everybody's listening you're one of a limited number of senators right we only got 100 and you're saying fight fight fight all the time i think it's the wrong message be an adult be a
6:02Ben Meiselas:statesman and then jesse waters says look with all of these illegal immigrants out do we see fruit drying up from the vine are the costs increasing the costs are increasing right now inflation is rising by the way i want all of our viewers to know this before i hit this clip before i play of this. Donald Trump right now is destroying and deleting the CPI, the consumer price index data inputs, which helps us understand inflation. So basically the government's just making up numbers at this point because they got rid of the people who aggregate the data. But we all know that if we're going into supermarkets or stores, the prices are significantly higher.
6:44Ben Meiselas:Like some cases double, some cases more, some cases, you know, 10, 15%, but the prices are higher across the board. Play this clip. But you're saying Donald Trump created 2 million jobs since he got sworn in for Americans. Okay. For Americans, a half a million illegals have lost their job under Donald Trump. Have anybody, have you seen fruit dying on the vine? Have you seen bathrooms not being cleaned. Have you seen all you said the economy was going to fall apart and that we were going to have fruit on the table. That's not happening, Jessica. Everything you've said has been wrong. CNBC has just made fun of you all morning.
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9:42Ben Meiselas:Oh, and then, you know, Fox has to like create their weird culture war issues. And so this is what they were posting all day. Liberals hate hot women. Liberals have declared a war on hot women. Liberals have declared war on a hot woman. This is what these magas do. This is what regime media does. They create some crisis and controversy and then say the liberals are going crazy over it. What are you even talking about? Y 'all are disappearing human beings off the street. You have ICE Gestapo's tearing families apart. You've declared a trade war against the world, causing inflation to rise, harming the economy.
10:19Ben Meiselas:You've got Donald Trump out there just covering up the Epstein files every day. But I'm sure the big issue is this. Let's cut the nonsense. Liberal women aren't mad at Sidney Sweeney because she's setting women back. They're mad because she's young, hot, white, and blonde. And they're mad that corporations are finally waking up to the truth, that the American people are done with woke. What are you even talking about? What is the issue? A stupid bad commercial about her. It's a bad commercial. It's a dumb commercial. No one cares. She's white. She's hot. The hell are you talking about? Can we focus on American jobs, please?
11:01Ben Meiselas:Trump promised prices would decrease. War in Ukraine would end in 21st. He would release the Epstein files. Things are far worse right now. And you're talking about hot white girls. What the hell are you even doing? They all wanted. It's always a distracting deflection operation. Then they bring on Mr. Nutlicker himself, Howard Lutnick. Sorry, Howard Lutnick. I won't call him Nutlick. His name is Howard Lutnick. And he goes, all my Wall Street friends, Lutnick's a billionaire, by the way. They're all like, how'd you do it? How'd you do it, Nutlick? I'm like, we're getting billions of dollars from Japan, from the European Union, billions of dollars from South Korea, billions of dollars from Vietnam?
11:40Ben Meiselas:No, you're not. These are not binding deals. These are all fake trade deals. You know how I know they're fake trade deals? Because they don't exist on paper. Show me a piece of paper that has the deal. Let me look at the terms. Let's see if the terms are binding. This has never existed where countries have claimed deals and it's a social media post. And you should know, Nutlicker, Nutlick, that if you are in Wall Street, you do what? Social media deals or do you do contracts? So what is the deal? And we know Japan is saying no binding deal. We ain't giving 550. Maybe we'll give a loan. We know the European Union say they ain't giving 750 billion.
12:20Ben Meiselas:We know South Korea ain't going to get 450 billion. Its entire GDP is 1.1 trillion. Here, but play this clip of Lundq. See, and I remember one of my favorite lines is after April 2nd, right? I go home and remember the market was all a tizzy. And I got all these phone calls from my Wall Street buddies, and they were going crazy. They were like, you don't know what you're doing. You're going to destroy the market. You're going to destroy this and that. And they were all blowing up the internet. They all are experts. And let me tell you who the experts are. Donald Trump and his trade team have proven the EU pays, Japan pays, Korea pays, Vietnam pays, The Philippines pay.
13:06They all Indonesia pays. And the list, by the way, we did like five deals. Donald Trump solved a war between Thailand and Cambodia all weekend long. He solved the conflict worldwide one a month since he's been president. It's unbelievable. And because he uses trade, he gets to invite me on the phone. And I listen all day Saturday while he's calling Cambodia, Thailand, Cambodia, Thailand. And what happens on Monday? They announced a truce. And you know what we did today? We made trade deals with Cambodia and Thailand. I mean, how cool is Donald Trump? When you get back to the private sector.
13:42Ben Meiselas:Then you have the Secretary of Interior, Doug Burgum, bragging that the United States is hereby shutting down wind energy, solar energy. It's all woke. We're focusing on coal, everybody. So while the rest of the world develops critical energy sectors and growth industries that provide jobs. Here in the United States, we're focused on horse and buggies and coal. What else are we focused on? Here, anyway, play this clip. Still a lot of wind projects that are moving forward and the ones in the ocean as well, Empire Wind, Vineyard Wind. Are those going to be stopped as a result of this? Well, I think the big thing, Martha, is with the one big beautiful bill has taken a major step forward.
14:30And finally, after 33 years, phasing out these just massive subsidies that were creating essentially tax schemes as opposed to power generation projects for wind and solar. And with the phase out of those, I mean, I think we're going to see almost zero applications for new projects that come in because 60 % or 70 % of the value of a wind project, perhaps even more for offshore wind, which was very expensive, was the value of the tax credit. And of course, we're for, President Trump is for, reliable, affordable American energy. And when you talk about wind and solar, you've got something that is absolutely intermittent.
15:12It's unreliable, unreliable because it's dependent on the weather.
15:15Ben Meiselas:And then you have Jesse Waters say, you know what? Being an ICE agent is the greatest job imaginable. It's like hide and seek. You get to find these migrants and you rip them apart from their families. It's like hide and seek, everybody. Hide and seek. Play this clip. They're all leaving and you don't even notice a difference because there's that many illegals in the country. Being an ICE agent is the best job. If you think about it, all you're doing is playing hide and seek. All you're doing is you're it. You're it. It's the most fun law enforcement job there is. You get to go out, find the bad hombres, cuff them up, throw them in the van, next day, wake up, do the same thing all over again.
16:00And you're never wrong. You always get the bad guy. How many times have we found out, oops, we deported an American? Zero times. They're batting a thousand. It literally is the most fun police job you could possibly have. You just did it. You are the HR recruiter for ICE. And you get a$50 ,000 bonus. It's better than a tariff stimmy. I thought life was horrible for ICE agents and they have to wear masks because they're getting doxxed and attacked constantly. That's what you told me last week. You get to wear a mask. Oh, it's a bit better. Like you're at the Wild West, like a little bandana. It's settling up.
16:36Ben Meiselas:You hear what he said, too? You get to wear a mask? These people are the most unserious, despicable human beings imaginable. I mean, I just think about all of those videos I show you where the families are ripped apart, where the kids are in cuffs and those kids are walking in that line or they see their parents get separated from their parents every day or their parents get sent to concentration camps like Alligator Alcatraz or Seacott in El Salvador or they go to Sudan. It's horrible, horrible stuff. Then Jesse Waters brings on MAGA Republican Senator Josh Hawley because Donald Trump posted that Josh Hawley is a second tier senator because Hawley introduced a bill that would ban stock trading and the ban of stock trading also applied to the presidency and the vice president.
17:33Ben Meiselas:So Trump calls Hawley a second tier senator. So Hawley then creates an exemption which says if you are the current president and vice president, you can engage in stock trading and mean coin deals. This just applies to future presidents, but the current you're exempt. So that's how Hawley capitulated to Trump and says, no, no, you go ahead and grift off the White House. Really? Play this clip. So when you spoke to the president, did he explain why he called you second tier? Well, I think that the president, a number of people who are opposed to banning stock trading had said to the president that he would be covered by the bill.
18:13He'd have to sell Mar-a-Lago and sell assets. Not the case at all. The president and the vice president, all their assets are totally exempted. And here's the point. This is what we talked about. The point of this bill is to ban members of Congress from trading on the information that only they have. I've supported this bill for years, Jesse. I think we call it the Pelosi Act. It is named for her because she is the poster child of this kind of behavior. It ought to be illegal and it ought to be prosecutable.
18:41Ben Meiselas:And here Jesse Waters again asks Howley, so are you a second tier senator? And then Howley says, you know, look, we gave Trump the exemption. I explained to him it's not going to it's no longer impacting you. As our editor in chief, Ron Filipkowski writes, what he told Howley Trump in his little talk after he posted that Howley was a second tier senator because he included the president in his bill is that Trump wanted to be personally exempted from it. And Hawley dutifully complied like the coward and fraud that he is. Here, play this clip. It's a great bill for Nancy and her, quote, husband, but bad for our country.
19:20Trump even gave Hawley a new nickname, second tier senator. Josh Hawley joins me now. Are you a second tier senator? Well, that's not the worst thing that's been said about me even today, Jesse. So listen, I had a good chat with the president earlier this evening, and he reiterated to me he wants to see a ban on stock trading by people like Nancy Pelosi and members of Congress, which is what we passed today. I think it is absolutely vital we put a stop to this. Pelosi shouldn't just be investigated. She should be prosecuted. And we need to make what she is doing and other members of Congress is doing illegal.
19:56I mean, you shouldn't be able to go up to Congress and get rich by trading on information that only you have and not members of the public. Right now, lots of members of Congress are getting by with it. We need to make the whole thing illegal.
20:06Ben Meiselas:And finally, our friend Jessica Tarlov on the five, laying down the law to that idiot Jesse Waters. Here, play this clip. This now has a$37.5 billion budget, which is larger than the IDF's budget. And we all know what Israel can do militarily. There is no reason that we should be choosing to fund them to that level while you're cutting food benefits, SNAP benefits for people, healthcare benefits. It's completely ludicrous. And it's why the American public now has a negative view of ICE over 50%. They're not cutting snap benefits. They're just saying you can't buy Doritos with food stamps. That's absolutely not true.
20:41It is true. That is not true. You can't buy candy with food stamps. That's not a cut. Even second-tier senators like Josh Hawley would tell you that that talking point is invalid. Let me tell you something. Second-tier? How dare you? Josh Hawley is my favorite senator. Also highest rated. What? We run the numbers. He's the highest rated. Like for your show? Yes. Oh, it's not like a real rating. It's like your rating. Well, no, it's the ratings that we tabulate. I thought you meant by his constituents, not who makes you look good. He's very well liked in Missouri as well. Okay.
21:11Ben Meiselas:This is the best debate ever. There you have it, folks. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. The truth is more important than ever. Check out our new Truth Over Lies collection at store.midastouch.com. All 100 % USA union made.
21:36I'll see you next time.
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