In short
The host argues Fox News is “panicking” and deflecting from Donald Trump’s alleged cover-up of the Epstein files, while instead amplifying claims that Obama (and others) framed Trump over Russia in 2016. The episode also pivots to Fox guests discussing inflation, AI, and legal/political disputes.
Guest backgrounds
The transcript names Fox personalities and political figures: Laura Ingraham and Lara Trump (Fox hosts/Trump family), Ted Cruz (U.S. senator), Tulsi Gabbard (Director of National Intelligence), Jesse Waters (Fox host), Alina Habba (lawyer; former interim U.S. attorney in New Jersey), plus mentions Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Jerome Powell (Fed chair), and “David Sachs” (Trump’s crypto-related adviser).
Key claims
WSJ/Murdoch reporting shows Trump’s name appears in Epstein files and he was warned in May; Fox avoids Epstein coverage and pushes “Russia hoax” narratives blaming Obama. Guests claim media complicity, “treason,” and that DOJ actions will pursue intelligence evidence. Separate segments claim inflation is being mishandled and that Trump’s AI speech is pivotal.
Notable examples
Ingraham clips blaming Obama’s Russia framing; Lara Trump citing “textbooks” about Russia collusion; Cruz referencing “December 9th” infamy; Gabbard alleging Obama/Hillary treason; Habba refusing to leave after term expired; Fox discussing New Jersey prosecutor controversy; Bessent joking about “no inflation”; Sachs praising Trump’s AI speech; Trump mocking trans athletes in the referenced clip.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFox News in a Panic Over Trump Scandal
1:00 to 3:18
Discussing Fox News' reaction to Trump's connections with Epstein.
“State regime media known as Fox is in a absolute panic right now as Donald Trump's cover up of the Epstein files has blown up in his face.”
Media Responses and Conspiracy Theories
3:18 to 6:00
Analyzing various media personalities' responses to the Trump-Obama scandal.
“You have textbooks around the United States of America right now, in schools that say the reason Donald Trump won in 2016 was due to Russia collusion, due to the help and the aid of Russia.”
Fox News Coverage and Political Deflection
6:00 to 7:56
Examining how Fox News is deflecting attention from Trump's scandals.
“were involved in a massive scheme against Donald Trump in 2015.”
Fox News Coverage and Political Deflection
8:07 to 9:27
Examining how Fox News is deflecting attention from Trump's scandals.
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Tulsi Gabbard and Accountability
9:39 to 14:01
Discussing Tulsi Gabbard's claims regarding accountability in the Trump narrative.
“And she goes, the American people deserve the truth.”
Trump's Handling of Inflation and Public Perception
14:01 to 15:28
The hosts discuss Trump's approach to inflation and his public image amid rising disapproval ratings.
“Americans, like 70 percent of Americans, like disapprove of Donald Trump's handling of inflation.”
Analysis of Trump's Recent Speech
15:29 to 16:51
The hosts critique Trump's recent speech, highlighting its perceived lack of substance and coherence.
“Well, Sean, I thought this was perhaps the most important technology speech by an American president since JFK declared that we had to go to the moon.”
Transcript
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1:00Ben Meiselas:State regime media known as Fox is in a absolute panic right now as Donald Trump's cover up of the Epstein files has blown up in his face. Fox can barely know how to react, especially given that the owner of its parent company, Rupert Murdoch, is now being sued by Donald Trump for the incredible reporting by the Wall Street Journal, including the latest report by the Wall Street Journal yesterday that Donald Trump's name appeared numerous times in the Epstein files in the Department of Justice and FBI's custody and control, and that Donald Trump was warned back in May He was informed in a briefing that his name appeared numerous times.
1:44Ben Meiselas:That's when Donald Trump said, all right, we're going to have to call this a hoax and we're going to have to blame it on Obama and Clinton and Comey and Biden and whoever. So let me show you what Fox is doing right now. You have Laura Ingraham saying the real scandal here is Obama framing Donald Trump about his connections with Russia in 2016. But be careful, everybody. Obama may say that Trump and his supporters are trying to deflect from Epstein with a conspiracy about Obama, but we should focus on Obama and Obama did something to Trump in 2016 about Russia, Russia, Russia. Watch Laura Ingraham.
2:28Ben Meiselas:It's so pathetic. Here, play this clip. Leaving many Americans in the 2020 election cycle to believe that Putin essentially put Trump in office. If you're voting to reelect Trump, you're voting for Putin. And that, you know, basically Trump is just a Russian stooge. And Obama will, of course, dispute all of this. He's going to say he was just trying to get at the truth and that Trump and his supporters are trying to deflect from Epstein with a new conspiracy. And the press, of course, is already helping with that. And then you have Lara Trump. You go from Laura Ingraham to Lara Trump. And Lara Trump on Fox last night goes, and look, this has been so damaging to Donald Trump that people have made these connections between him and Russia in 2016.
3:13Ben Meiselas:That's the scandal. It's in textbooks now. It's in textbooks. Here, play this clip. You have textbooks around the United States of America right now, in schools that say the reason Donald Trump won in 2016 was due to Russia collusion, due to the help and the aid of Russia. 69 % of Democrats right now still believe that Donald Trump won in 2016 because of Russia. And can I just remind you that there was a bipartisan Senate report whose chair was Marco Rubio, the current secretary of state that said Russia did indeed try to meddle with the election of 2016. Like, what are we even talking about? You're doing the Russia, Russia, Russia thing?
3:55Ben Meiselas:Do you realize how desperate and pathetic it looks? And by the way, we knew that Donald Trump's involved with Russia. We know today we hear what he says in public about Russia and how he treats Putin. Oh, you want 50 more days before we issue secondary sanctions? After me saying two weeks, whatever you want, Vlad. Then you have Vladimir Putin posting like nudes of Melania and just like mocking Donald Trump and making statements. Donald, this is what Putin said publicly, which Donald Trump never refuted. Putin's like, Donald and I are going to work on cultural exchanges and movies and music between Russia and the United States to bring our cultural values closer together.
4:35Ben Meiselas:And Donald Trump doesn't deny that that's what was actually spoken about anyway. Then you have Ted Cruz on Fox and he's like, look, I want everybody to know that FDR famously said December 7th is a date that will live in infamy. Pearl Harbor. The real date that will live in infamy is December 9th. It will live in infamy because our government came under siege from Obama and people who said, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. Here, play this clip. And I'll tell you, this December 9th meeting, FDR famously said December 7th is a date that will live in infamy. Well, December 9th should be a day that will live in infamy because this is a moment when senior members of our government decided to lie to the American people and to sabotage President Donald Trump who'd just been elected by the American people.
5:24Ben Meiselas:What my gosh. So then they have Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence. And remember, Gabbard was despised by Donald Trump recently because she was saying that Iran did not have nuclear capabilities, which contradicted the lies that Donald Trump wanted to get out there so Trump could strike Iran, which, by the way, Trump pretty much failed to knock out the nuclear capabilities. So now Tulsi Gabbard's trying to get back on the inside. And she's like, we at the Director of National Intelligence, we've all discovered that Obama and Hillary Clinton were involved in a massive scheme against Donald Trump in 2015.
6:06Ben Meiselas:What are you talking about? In 2016. And why are these reporters trying to distract from the real scandal? It's Obama we're trying to go after. Here, play this clip. That's really what this is all about and why it does such a disservice. I was standing there in the White House press briefing room and hearing some of these crazy questions being asked by members of the media who are trying to distract and deflect away from the historic expose that we have brought forward that once again puts into question the American people's ability to trust the integrity of our democratic republic. And the reason why that is, and it's similar to the deep state actors who have been trying to stop us from releasing this, is that we have members of the media who were complicit in this from the very beginning, who were leaked early copies of this, or at least lines from this January 2017 Obama manufactured intelligence assessment.
7:03they printed what they were fed people like Ellen Nakashima from the Washington Post who by the way went on to win a Pulitzer Prize because for years she was so good at lying and not telling the truth to the American people that they gave her an award for it. These people are still here. Ellen Nakashima is still harassing people who work within the intelligence community who are calling up and reporting her, you know, using burner phones to try to ask them harassing questions. There are a lot of deep state actors still here within Washington.
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9:38Ben Meiselas:You have Tulsi Gabbard there and the whole thing with her and Jesse Waters is just so super weird. And she goes, the American people deserve the truth. And the truth is Obama is involved in treason against Trump and Russia, Russia, Russia. That's what we need to focus on. Like, do y 'all just think we're so stupid? I mean, I know you have MAGA mush brain supporters who may like listen to whatever the hell you say. We know you're distracting from the Epstein files. We know you're distracting from all of it. But go ahead, Tulsi. Try to trick us. Here play this clip. President Trump wants us to find the truth.
10:18I want to find the truth. The American people deserve the truth and they deserve accountability, which is why I'm really glad to see that Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice announced the creation of a strike force team today specifically to get after all the intelligence and evidence that we have gathered. We have more coming and to determine the path forward to bring about that accountability.
10:42Ben Meiselas:You got more from Ted Cruz here to play this clip. And understand these partisans are so contemptuous of the American people. What was the Russia hoax about? It was about subverting democracy. They were mad at the voters that they elected Donald Trump. I want to punish them. It's the exact same sentiment that led to the law fair last year of indicting Donald Trump four times. And then you have Alina Habba, whose term as interim United States attorney in New Jersey is over. But now she's like, I'm not leaving. I'm not going anywhere. And then Jesse Waters is like, the Democrats tried to coup the U.S.
11:17Ben Meiselas:prosecutor from New Jersey. No one tried to coup anybody. She's unqualified. She's being investigated by the state bar for engaging in potential unethical behavior. She's been sanctioned over a million dollars for bringing frivolous lawsuits. But here's what we're talking about, I guess, on Waters. Let's play it. The Democrats are determined to let chaos run free. Yesterday, they tried to coup the U.S. prosecutor from New Jersey, Alina Haba, who's been going after these thugs. Alina says she's not going anywhere. And here Alina Haba's like, I'm just going to continue doing my job, even though my terms expired.
11:54Ben Meiselas:I'm not a coward. Here, play this clip. Look, I have to tell you something, Jesse. I think anybody that's known me in this public sphere for the last four years knows I'm not a coward to a fight. So I have obviously been doing my job. I do my job irrespective of who you are, what you are, what your politics are. That's what I said when I swore on my oath in that Oval Office in the picture you just showed. So I'll continue to do so. These are like actual sociopaths here. And then Jesse Waters is like, are they trying to take you out because you indicted a Democrat? Sounds like it. Sounds like it.
12:32Ben Meiselas:What in the cosplay fascism is this play this clip? So are they trying to take you out because you indicted a Democrat for assaulting an ICE officer? It sure sounds like it, Jesse, doesn't it? I mean, would it be the first time that anybody has been attacked for doing their job and doing it well? By the way, do you notice that Fox is basically not, how strange is this? Fox is not talking at all about the biggest story right now, Trump's cover up of Epstein. They're not talking about it. The Wall Street Journal, which is also earned by Murdoch, though, is skewering Donald Trump. They did the incredible report on the 50th birthday card from Donald Trump to Epstein, where Trump's alleged to have said enigmas never age.
13:19Ben Meiselas:May our secrets always stay secret when Epstein was involved in like sex trafficking. And then you have Fox, like Fox News, and I put news in quotes, pushing all of this like bizarro stuff about Obama and like 2016 Russia. Like, what are you even talking about? Then they bring on Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, who met with the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell. And here Besant is like, you know, I told I told him, Jerome, there's no inflation. There's nothing wrong. I told him what we know there's inflation. Prices are through the roof right now. Americans, like 70 percent of Americans, like disapprove of Donald Trump's handling of inflation.
14:10Ben Meiselas:We know it's real. But anyway, go ahead. Play the clip. So what do you talk about? I know you see him once a week. Do you see him for breakfast, Powell? Yeah, and we talk about exactly this. You're not seeing inflation. When are you going to say, Uncle? When will we know? And we talk about the overall economy, what we're seeing. We talk about the international economy. What's his personality like? I think a lot of people don't really know. Is he pleasant? Does he seem angry or upset or annoyed? I mean, he's he's pleasant. He's dutiful. He's been doing this a long time. It's Trump's pick. He was.
14:52He was. But again, that that's the problem with a lot of these jobs. It could happen to Treasury. I hope I don't think it's happened to me, but a lot of D.C. jobs, the building takes over the person.
15:06Ben Meiselas:And then you have David Sachs, this purported billionaire who's Trump's crypto czar, who talked about Donald Trump's speech yesterday, where Trump looks so sickly and weak and scared and defeated, right? Trump looks like a cornered rat right now. And Sachs is like, oh, I thought Donald Trump's speech was the most important speech I've ever heard. It was like the most important speech since JFK declared we have to go to the moon. You're playing this clip. Well, Sean, I thought this was perhaps the most important technology speech by an American president since JFK declared that we had to go to the moon.
15:40In a similar way, President Trump declared that we had to win the AI race. I think that's a really important point here. And I think you can argue that the AI race is more important than the space race. It's going to reshape the global economy and determine who the superpowers of the 21st century are. If we continue to lead in AI, America will be the most powerful country in the world. But if we don't, we could fall behind our global competitors. And what President Trump did, I think, was lay out a plan for winning this AI race so that America remains the most powerful country in the world.
16:07Ben Meiselas:Seriously, what speech were you watching? Because I was watching the one where Donald Trump spent time like mocking trans people and going boing, boing, boing, boing, boing. Like what speech? It was the most stupid and ridiculous and clearly cognitively addled speech I've ever seen. But go ahead. Here's what Donald Trump said. Here, play this clip. Now a man who transitioned came up and looked at the bar. How much is it? 212 pounds. Oh, let me try it. I think he broke the record by 109 pounds. It's going to be a long time. It's going to be a long time before a woman catches that. And these are great athletes and great people.
16:49And it's demeaning. And who the hell wants this? We're off of that whole standard. because I just tell you those as examples.
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