In short
Australia’s political backlash against Donald Trump, centered on AUKUS nuclear deterrence fears, Trump snubbing leaders at the G7, and Australia’s pivot toward China/Asia diplomacy amid tariff threats.
Key claims
Trump’s Defense Department threatened to withdraw the US from AUKUS, making Australia “very vulnerable”; Trump skipped meetings with Albanese, Modi, and Japan’s PM at the G7 and instead called Vladimir Putin; Australians’ trust in the US has fallen to a 20-year low (36% trust “to act responsibly”); China seeks to distance Australia from the US.
Notable examples
Albanese’s Beijing trip and criticism over his earlier lack of a Trump meeting; Kevin Rudd’s January Trump golf-course meeting; Penny Wong’s ASEAN-related remarks on China’s military build-up; US ambassador nominee Nick Adams’ controversial social-media/Hooters posts.
Guests
No named podcast guests; the episode is a solo host commentary with quoted clips from Australian officials and media.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussing Australian Politics
0:59 to 1:39
Examine Australia's reaction to Donald Trump's administration and international relations.
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AUKUS and Its Implications
1:39 to 3:30
Understand the AUKUS deal and its significance for Australia and its allies.
“Australia is absolutely furious at Donald Trump and his regime.”
Criticism of Albanese's Decisions
3:30 to 5:32
Assess the criticism faced by Prime Minister Albanese regarding his international meetings.
“their center left kind of liberal party, as you would think about it.”
Media Coverage of Albanese's Trip
5:32 to 8:01
Explore how Australian media reports on Albanese's visit to China and its implications.
“for visiting China for the second time before pulling off that meeting with Donald Trump in Washington.”
Senator Penny Wong's Insights
8:01 to 11:55
Listen to insights from Senator Penny Wong on Australia's foreign relations and defense strategies.
“Well, Foreign Minister Penny Wong has expressed her concerns over China's surging military capabilities ahead of the prime minister's trip to Beijing this weekend.”
Betrayal of the Alpha Male Community
14:02 to 19:18
Discussion on the perceived betrayal by Bud Light and its implications.
“So he went to the Bud Light factory and here's what he did here.”
Transcript
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1:39Ben Meiselas:Australia is absolutely furious at Donald Trump and his regime. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese of the Labor Party will be meeting right now with China, with his counterpart, Xi Jinping and others. You will recall that Anthony Albanese had a very important meeting with Donald Trump at the G7. They were planning to meet for a long time. The AUKUS deal, the trilateral between the United Kingdom, Australia, and the United States that deals with military defense, specifically nuclear deterrence, has been a critical issue for Australia. Donald Trump's Defense Department has pretty much threatened to pull the United States out of AUKUS, which would leave Australia very vulnerable.
2:27Ben Meiselas:And the United States has engaged in a lot of hostile action with Australia, even though the United States won longtime allies with Australia. in normal times, non-Trump regime authoritarian times. And also the United States has a trade surplus with Australia as well. So Donald Trump snubs Anthony Albanese and lots of world leaders. It wasn't just Anthony Albanese. It was also Prime Minister Modi of India. It was also Prime Minister Ashiba of Japan and so many other world leaders who had critical meetings with Donald Trump at the G7. He couldn't be bothered. He rushed home. He spoke to Vladimir Putin on the phone.
3:08Ben Meiselas:You remember all of that. So the world's moving on right now. And I understand that in Australia, the opposition party, their right-wing party in Australia as the Midas mates, as the Midas down under, no, but I'm telling the other, the American audience here, the liberal party in Australia is their right-wing kind of far right-wing conservative party. The labor party's their center left kind of liberal party, as you would think about it. So the opposition party is all up in arms saying, Anthony Albanese, how could you not meet with Donald Trump? You should do it. Donald Trump's a crazy person, okay?
3:42Ben Meiselas:He's a crazy authoritarian who's trying to destroy the United States. There's no logic. There's nothing that the Albanese government could have done. I mean, look, Kevin Rudd, who's getting crap for it, the old prime minister and current ambassador to the United States from Australia, Ambassador Rudd, former prime minister Rudd, he held a meeting with Donald Trump back in January, which now everyone's like, what went down at that meeting? What was happening at that meeting? And at the end of the day, it's kind of like contradictory, right? Because the opposition is like, why would you meet with him in January?
4:14Ben Meiselas:You should be meeting with him now. I mean, at the end of the day, I think Australia saw what was coming. Kevin Rudd was a former prime minister. He tried to get ahead of it. And you can't get ahead of it with Donald Trump. So anyway, you've got Prime Minister Albanese going to China. Big meeting right here. Let me show you how it's being reported in Australia. This is from Seven News. You'll hear in this clip from Albanese. You'll see some of the other conflicts that I just kind of talked about, what the opposition, the Liberal Party is making a big deal about. Again, remember, when you're a Liberal Party, that's the far right wing party in Australia.
4:48Ben Meiselas:And just take a listen if you can hear play this clip. Well, in less than 24 hours, our Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, will leave for Beijing for his second visit to China as PM. Live now to our political reporter, Isabel Mullen in Canberra. Isi, good afternoon. Trade, of course, is very high on the agenda. It is, Tash. Good afternoon. Anthony Albanese will be leaving the country with a delegation of Australian businesses and universities. He was out early in Sydney this morning spruiking our trading relationship with Beijing, a relationship that fell apart under the Morrison government. We did see a ban on some Australian exports to China, but that resumed before the federal election.
5:28Regardless, the federal opposition is slamming Anthony Albanese for visiting China for the second time before pulling off that meeting with Donald Trump in Washington. Around about 25 % of our exports go to one destination, China. bigger than the next four of our partners combined of Japan, South Korea, the United States and India. The relationship with China means jobs in Australia. It's as simple as that. And Izzy, this comes, of course, as the federal opposition demands more information about an interesting golf meeting between Kevin Rudd and Donald Trump in January. Yes, it does. That meeting, rather, happened on the sidelines of a golf day in Florida at one of Donald Trump's golf courses.
6:17But as you said, no public meeting, no public disclosure, rather, of what was discussed there on the sidelines. Now, the federal opposition says that's a problem, particularly as we stare down the barrel of more tariffs, 200 % on pharmaceuticals, 50 % on aluminium and steel, and 10 % on everything else. Was this a meeting that went for 30 seconds or 30 minutes? Did it go well or did it go badly? Have there been any subsequent conversations or meetings between the ambassador and the president? This is our most important relationship at our most important time in history and we need more transparency.
6:53The Prime Minister insists a meeting will happen, Tash, and in the meantime he'll be strengthening other relationships like our one with China.
7:02Ben Meiselas:Now, I'll give you just another perspective, another media outlet from Sky News Australia. And what they're talking about is that one of the things that China wants to achieve in these discussions with Australia is to distance Australia from the United States. As you heard in the prior clip, 25 percent of the trade that Australia does is with China. And it would be a big win for China to try to push Australia closer to it. And you'll see China is trying to do the same thing with Japan, with South Korea, whereas former President Biden and other presidents of the past made a very big deal about about building relationships in Asia, building relationship with Australia, not this regime.
7:49Ben Meiselas:You're also going to hear in this clip that I'm about to play you from Senator Penny Wong, very popular in Australia, the foreign minister, the minister of foreign affairs. Let's take a listen to this clip right here. Let's play it. Well, Foreign Minister Penny Wong has expressed her concerns over China's surging military capabilities ahead of the prime minister's trip to Beijing this weekend. The senator, who's in Malaysia, attending the ASEAN Foreign Minister's meeting, claims China's lack of transparency about nuclear and conventional military build-up is becoming more concerning. Later the program here.
8:24Well, she says President Donald Trump's Indo-Pacific policies to counterweight China are necessary. A lot of discussion with our friends in Southeast Asia, in ASEAN, about the importance of us working together. And I talked about the importance of a region where no country dominates and no country is dominated, a region where, as I described it, there is a balance of power, which, of course, requires continued U.S. engagement.
8:51Ben Meiselas:Now, you'll notice what Foreign Minister Penny Wong was saying right there. She was at the ASEAN conference that was taking place in Malaysia. ASEAN stands for Association of Southeast Asian Nations. The regional organization with Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, and Thailand formed through what's called the Bangkok Declaration. And nations like Australia show up and participate in these sidelines, right? They're not a member of ASEAN, but they participate in these sidelines there. And you'll see Senator Penny Wong posting things like this. Today, I met with China's Minister Wang Yi on the sidelines of ASEAN's foreign ministers meeting in Malaysia.
9:34Ben Meiselas:Australia will continue to engage with China to grow our relationship and navigate our differences while upholding our national interests. Or this photo right here, the foreign ministers of Japan, Australia and New Zealand sitting together. Real diplomacy is taking place. The world's moving on from the U.S. and building relations with each other. They're actually doing deals with themselves while Donald Trump is writing letters, deals among themselves while Donald Trump is writing letters. You ever step outside and feel like you're instantly drenched in sweat? It's like no matter what you do, it doesn't stop.
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11:55Ben Meiselas:Senator Penny Wong also wrote, Australia's relationship with Malaysia is based on mutual respect and a shared interest in a peaceful, stable and prosperous region. It was an honor again to meet with the head of Malaysia again to discuss our partnership as we celebrate 70 years of Australia's diplomatic ties with Malaysia and so on and so forth. Now, at the same time that was taking place, what was the Trump regime doing, specifically directed at Malaysia. You had Nick Adams being appointed as the ambassador to Malaysia. So Donald Trump gave the biggest FU to Malaysia, mocking Malaysia, acting like Malaysia is not a valuable partner.
12:39Ben Meiselas:And you see Malaysia hosting ASEAN. Malaysia also separately hosted a meeting between Marco Rubio and Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia this week. And the United States just named Nick Adams, like literally the most unserious, embarrassing human being to become the ambassador to Malaysia. And this relates to my story of Australia because Adams is Australian and Australians wish that Adams was not Australian. They're happy he got pushed to the United States, Yet the U.S. has made this wacky individual, a crackpot, I don't know what to refer to this guy as, as the ambassador to Malaysia.
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14:03Ben Meiselas:So he went to the Bud Light factory and here's what he did here. Play this clue. This is a solemn day in alpha male history. I am here in Dallas outside the Anheuser-Busch facility and I cannot believe the betrayal that we are currently witnessing. This is Judas level betrayal of the alpha male community and just a week before Easter. And again, while very serious business is being talked about at ASEAN in Malaysia, Nick Adams posted this video announcing that he would be the new United States ambassador to Malaysia. At the same time, Malaysia's hosting ASEAN. Do you realize what a big middle finger that is to Malaysia as they're hosting ASEAN.
14:57Ben Meiselas:I can't emphasize enough because I know that cable news here doesn't talk about stuff like this, but this is really saying to Malaysia and all of the ASEAN nations, F you. Here, play this clip. It is nothing short of a lifetime's honor to take the president's goodwill and spread it to the great people of Malaysia. It is, Mr. President, my honor to represent you and serve our nation before King Ibrahim Iskander and his people. To his majesty, I look forward to working with your government to strengthen ties between our friendly peoples. And then let me show you Gareth Evans, former foreign minister, also part of the Labour Party, served a very long time as a foreign minister, but a while back.
15:47Ben Meiselas:Here he is, and this is being reposted by a Chinese think tank right here by Kim Dushu. And here's what he says, that there's just no longer any affection in Australia for what people to perceive to be Trump's approaches. Here, listen to what he says right here. There's a survey done by Lawyer Institute, I think, say Australians trust in the US has fallen to its lowest point in 20 years. with only 36 % of respondents saying they trust the US to act responsibly in the world. What's your take on that? Well, that's a dramatic falling away of some 20 percentage points, I think, in just a year. And obviously, it's very directly attributable to President Trump.
16:32There is no affection in Australia at all for what people perceive to be Trump's approach to international relations, Trump's approach to democracy, Trump's approach to internal respect and protection for civil liberties, for human rights. This is not a country that we've always believed in under the current administration. And it's no surprise that that confidence has dropped away. I mean, nobody knows what to expect from the Trump administration when it comes to international relations. There's three different strands at work. There's the America first isolationist divisions of spheres of influence.
17:14You do your thing, we'll do ours. And we don't want to get into any confrontational. No, that's one stream. Then there's the make America great again stream, which is restoring American preeminence, primacy, all that stuff with all that follows from that in terms of willingness to use force aggressively and in breach of international will. And then there's the purely transactional ego driven dimension where there's no obvious principles that are applicable at all except personal self-interest. So this is an environment which everybody is finding rather spooky. Trump's own advisers don't know which way he's going to jump.
17:53So how can the rest of us know which way he's going to jump? So obviously there's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of unhappiness with the way the United States is going. Hopefully, passage of time and a number of these policy decisions that Trump has been making will come back to bite him, including the economic ones and his own constituency. So hopefully over time, we'll see some modification of behavior. But it's not surprising.
18:21Ben Meiselas:So that's a comprehensive update of everything that's going on, in my view, in Australia. To my Australian viewers, you know, tell me if you thought I got it right. I spend a lot of time speaking. We have a lot of Midas mates, a lot of Midas down under. And it's important that I don't just do justice to the Australian news, not just report it accurately, but I want to report it better than what the Australian local news is doing. As you know, with my Canadian reporting and how embedded we got in Canada and are, we're going to be setting up a Midas in Canada. Then I want to set up an official Midas in Australia as well.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Australia taking a big meeting with China as America continues to show disrespect and Meiselas highlights the statements of Prime Minister Albanese and other leaders.
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