Furious Canada Strikes Back at Trump Over War Crimes

7 Dec 2025 · 16 min · 9 chapters

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In short

Canada condemns alleged U.S. war crimes “off the coast of Venezuela” tied to Donald Trump’s administration, arguing the U.S. has become a “gangster”/fascist threat and that international law and the ICC must hold perpetrators accountable.

Guests/backgrounds

Charlie Angus, leader of NDP-affiliated Midas Canada (described as “Midas Canada”); he contextualizes Canada’s stance through historical Canadian involvement in international war-crimes accountability.

Key claims

The episode calls extrajudicial killings “war crimes,” criticizes Pete Hegseth for posting a cartoon depicting Franklin (a Canadian children’s character) as a “happy, murderous killer,” and argues dehumanizing violence is being normalized via social media. It mocks Canada’s foreign affairs minister’s reported stance that the U.S. decides legality, and cites the Pentagon Law of War Manual.

Notable examples

Landovery Castle (1918) survivors allegedly machine-gunned after being seen by a U-boat; Hind Rajab (6-year-old in Gaza) described as killed with her family while begging for help; Auschwitz 1942 photo of German soldiers laughing/singing; Germany’s alleged anti-Semitism thesis rejected; alleged ICC referral of Lt. Col. Benny Aharon.

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Canada's Fury at Trump

0:05 to 0:30

Discussion about Canada's outrage toward Trump's actions and war crimes.

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Canada's Fury at Trump

2:15 to 3:21

Discussion about Canada's outrage toward Trump's actions and war crimes.

“Canada is absolutely furious at Donald Trump and his gangster regime.”

War Crimes and Dehumanization

3:21 to 4:25

Exploration of the implications of modern war crimes and dehumanization.

“These extrajudicial killings are very serious.”

Historical Context of Atrocities

4:25 to 5:54

Analyzing historical atrocities and their relevance to current events.

“And it's about embracing the cruelty and the viciousness and also laughing at the fact that these are breaches of international law.”

The Impact of Violence on Society

5:54 to 7:00

Addressing how violent acts affect societal perceptions and norms.

“killings, killings of civilians, killings of children.”

International Accountability

7:00 to 9:46

Discussion on the need for accountability for war crimes.

“And now we're seeing it with the United States under Donald Trump.”

Call for Humanity and Action

9:54 to 14:00

A passionate plea for humanity and accountability in the face of violence.

“Persons who have been incapacitated by wounds, sickness, or shipwreck are in a helpless state, and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to make them the object of attack.”

Call for Accountability

14:00 to 14:22

Discussion on the importance of accountability in society.

Call for Accountability

16:12 to 16:46

Discussion on the importance of accountability in society.

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2:47Charlie Angus, again, who leads Midas Canada, contextualizes it in the history of other war crimes during World War II. He talks about how Canada and the United States, of course, have been allies in World War II and World War I and throughout history. And now the perspective of Canada seeing the United States as this essentially Nazi fascist regime is something that Charlie Angus and Canadians never could fathom. But that's the reality right now and the dynamic that exists, unfortunately. Charlie Angus from Midas Canada, take it away, sir. These extrajudicial killings are very serious. these are war crimes.

3:24They're crimes against even the United States military code. But what was really concerning was how Hegseth, when he was challenged on this, he put out this imitation cartoon of the Franklin cartoon. Now, Franklin is a Canadian cartoon character that children love. And Franklin teaches kids how to be nice and how to be good neighbors. And instead, Hegseth turns Franklin into this happy, murderous killer, killing people who are defenseless. You know, Adam Sewer wrote the book about Trump, that cruelty is the point. And he writes that once malice is embraced as virtue, it is impossible to contain.

4:11What we're seeing in this age of gangsters is that the crimes that have been committed by military in the past are now being bragged about and celebrated on social media. And it's about dehumanizing our enemy. And it's about embracing the cruelty and the viciousness and also laughing at the fact that these are breaches of international law. You know, there was a photograph I saw when I went to the Museum of Terror in Berlin that really struck me, that shocked me. And I thought about it for a long time. And it's about German soldiers, male and female, at Auschwitz in 1942, singing and laughing.

4:57And you're seeing this photograph of people who are completely disconnected from the fact that they're running the world's most notorious murder camp. And I thought about that photograph a long time and the dehumanizing nature of the violence that allows people on one hand to hang out and have a good time and on the other hand go in and pull people off the trains and murder them. Daniel Goldhagen in his book on Hitler's willing executioners, his claim was that the reason this was possible was because the Germans had some innate murderous anti-Semitism, was something in the German character. And he wrote about the German police battalions that did the horrific mass shootings in Ukraine and Eastern Europe and took photographs and didn't seem to think it was a big issue.

5:46I think Goldhagen's thesis is just wrong. And we see it's wrong because it's been proven wrong by subsequent atrocities. And nowhere has it been proven more than in Israel, where we see soldiers of the IDF who come from all manner of ordinary backgrounds in Gaza doing selfies, involved in mass killings, killings of civilians, killings of children. I think one of the most frightening things that really shook me up, and it literally made me rethink everything I thought about the world, was the murder of that six-year-old girl, Hind Rajab, who was in a car with her family trying to escape the bombing.

6:29Her family were murdered in the car. She was left alone. She was on the phone begging people to come and help her. And every time someone from the Red Crescent tried to come and help her, Israeli sharpshooters killed them. The Euro-Mediterranean Peace Monitor investigated and ruled it a planned execution, the murder of a family and the murder of a child. This kind of dehumanizing violence is becoming the face of the era of gangster threat. We see it with Putin in Ukraine. We see it with Netanyahu in Gaza. And now we're seeing it with the United States under Donald Trump. uh lieutenant colonel benny benny aharon his name has been brought forward to the international criminal court for um the allegations that he ordered the killing of this young girl and her family and this is a thing that hegseth and the rest of them need to understand the work of the criminal court goes on donald trump is trying in in his deal with putin the capitulation agreement he's trying to foster on the world is to claim that after this illegal invasion and after all these killings and the stealing of children, that the world will somehow agree to let Putin and the war crimes go unanswered, just like he thinks that that's going to happen in Gaza.

7:47No. Sometimes it takes years. Sometimes it takes decades, many decades. But the work of the International Criminal Court must go on, and it must go on in Russia. It must go on in Gaza. and that brings us to Pete Hegseth and the killing of these civilians. We don't know who they are. We don't know what they did. We don't know if it was a drug bust or not. And what kind of drug bust you just blow people up without even stopping and searching. Ever have one of those days where you're juggling a thousand things and by the time the sun goes down, the last thing you want is a hangover the next morning?

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9:53The Pentagon Law of War Manual is clear on this. Attacking defenseless people, they say, persons who have been rendered unconscious or otherwise incapacitated by wounds, sickness, or shipwreck, such as they are no longer capable of fighting or the combat, meaning they're out of fighting. Persons who have been incapacitated by wounds, sickness, or shipwreck are in a helpless state, and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to make them the object of attack. The Intercept has done a study on Hegseth, who's now trying to blame an admiral for ordering the killings after he was bragging and posting pictures of the cartoon with Franklin, and The Intercept says that Hegseth's actions could result in the entire chain of command being investigated for war crimes or outright murder.

10:45But I want to go back now to Canada, because when our foreign affairs minister, Anita Anand, was asked in the early stages of these extrajudicial murders off the coast of Venezuela if they were a breach of international law, Ms. Anand said that it was really up to the United States to decide if it was a breach of international law. I mean, this is an outrageously dumb thing to say. In what world would you say the perpetrator of the crimes gets to decide whether those crimes are crimes. That's not how it works. And Canada has a long standing tradition of our work on dealing with international war crimes, crimes against civilians, crimes against humanity, and that work must continue.

11:26But I want to take you back historically on why Canada has played such a role in this. On June 27th, 1918, there was a hospital ship. the Landovery Castle heading from Halifax to Liverpool as part of the medical convoys that the Canadian army had for the wounded and the sick and while they were just off the coast of Ireland they were sunk by U-boat 86 as part of the U-boat campaign against the UK and against Canada And on that ship, there were many doctors, nurses, military personnel, sailors. And what happened next shocked the world because the U-boat saw the survivors in the water. They rammed the lifeboats and then they machine gunned the survivors, killing nurses, killing 234 people.

12:27And Canadians were outraged. And Canadians demanded international law step up, which hadn't really stepped up on something like this before, on the murder of helpless people at sea. And I think the killings of the people on the Landoverie Castle set Canada on a path that it has never turned away from, which is that those with the guns don't get to shoot those without guns on the high seas. Those who are helpless, those who don't have power, Those who are like little Hain Rejab who was left in a car as bait while the Israeli soldiers killed those who came to save them. These are war crimes. These are the act of monsters.

13:11And we are in an age of monsters. And we're in an age of monsters when people like Pete Hegseth, one of the dumbest, most incompetent losers who's ever been appointed to anything in the United States, can put out cartoons bragging about murdering defenseless people on the high seas. It's not just it's about the war crime, but it's about trying to desensitize us, to make us go along, to think it's OK and it's not OK. So now we see Trump's backtracking. We see Hegseth trying to throw the admirals under the bus. We have to stay focused on these. We cannot let our humanity break down like this. We cannot let these gangster criminals like Hegseth and Trump and Putin and Netanyahu and Benny Aharon, whose now name has been put forward at the International Criminal Court.

14:02there has to be accountability otherwise we go into a very very very dark place so my friends we got to keep kicking at the darkness and we got to keep calling it out and we got to keep insisting that people have to do better in the age of these gangster monsters so charlie angus from idas canada thanks so much hit hit hit subscribe help us to get to 250 000 you want to keep telling these stories. Thank you, merci, and miigwetch.

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