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The episode argues that Pope Leo XIV and U.S. Catholic leaders are publicly rebuking Donald Trump’s immigration policies, especially mass deportations and migrant mistreatment. It claims the U.S. bishops voted 216–5 (with 3 abstentions) at their Baltimore conference to issue an immigration message opposing indiscriminate mass deportation, dehumanizing rhetoric, and violence, citing a “climate of fear” for families. It highlights Pope Leo’s prior calls for a stronger, unified church voice and for pastoral access to detained people, including concerns about priests’ ability to hold Mass. Notable examples include Catholic protests outside ICE in Philadelphia, a Eucharistic procession, and a conservative archbishop (Alexander Sample) condemning ICE activity while affirming migrants’ human dignity.
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none named; the transcript is commentary with referenced reporters and officials (e.g., Christopher Hale, Cardinal Blase Cupich, Archbishop Paul S. Coakley, Bishop Daniel Flores, Archbishop Alexander Sample, Tom Homan, James Martin).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPope Leo XIV's Rebuke of Trump
2:30 to 11:41
Explore Pope Leo XIV's strong condemnation of Trump's immigration policies.
“Pope Leo XIV is absolutely furious at Donald Trump and his regime.”
Catholic Response to Migrant Issues
13:50 to 14:00
See how Catholic leaders and congregants are advocating for migrants.
“priests, bishops, congregants speaking out against the horrific treatment of migrants.”
Catholics Respond to Pope's Call Against Trump
14:00 to 17:10
Learn about the national campaign by Catholics to oppose deportation policies.
“For example, this past week, Catholics in Philadelphia responded to Pope Leo XIV's call to action to stand up against the Trump regime.”
Catholic Leadership and Immigration Stance
17:10 to 20:00
Discover how U.S. bishops are challenging Trump's immigration policies.
“Coakley of Oklahoma City as conference president and Bishop Daniel Flores of Brownsville, Texas as vice president.”
The Importance of Moral Clarity in Politics
20:00 to 21:26
Understand the call for humanity and empathy in the current political climate.
“And again, let me just be clear about this.”
Transcript
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2:30Ben Meiselas:Pope Leo XIV is absolutely furious at Donald Trump and his regime. And the Pope basically ordered the bishops and cardinals and priests in the United States to have their voices heard and to assert themselves and to powerfully rebuke and stand up to Donald Trump and his regime for their treatment of migrants. So Catholic bishops issued a rare formal and public rebuke of Donald Trump and his entire regime for the mass deportation of immigrants and the horrific treatment that is being inflicted on migrants. I want to talk to you about what went down. So the American Catholic bishops delivered a historic rebuke this week, as Christopher Hale reports on his sub stack meeting at their annual conference in Baltimore.
3:26Ben Meiselas:The bishops voted 216 to five with three abstentions to approve a special message on immigration. The first such action in over 12 years. So after this overwhelming vote, the assembly of bishops stood and applauded a standing ovation. Here is what they said. And this is basically the strongest collective denunciation of a United States president by the Catholic hierarchy in American history. And again, this was all being directed by Pope Leo the 14th back at the Vatican. The letter says, we oppose the indiscriminate mass deportation of people. We pray for an end to dehumanizing rhetoric and violence, whether directed at immigrants or at law enforcement, listing a litany of concerns, what they described as a climate of fear among immigrant families and parents who are afraid to take their children to school or even attend church.
4:30Ben Meiselas:And the Catholic bishops and priests and cardinals deplored the vilification of immigrants. We feel compelled now in this environment to raise our voices in defense of God-given human dignity. Now, folks, whether you're religious or not, whether you're Catholic or not, the point is I think we all have a moral obligation right now to stand up against the regime. And I'm glad, again, regardless of religion that Pope Leo XIV is using his platform to push back hard against the Trump regime. Now, we've heard Pope Leo XIV denounce the Trump regime before and to describe his views about Trump regime's horrific treatment of migrants.
5:22Ben Meiselas:For example, this was a video last month where Pope Leo said the American bishops need a more stronger and unified voice to defend migrants against Trump's deportation raids. Here, play this clip. I was struck at the beginning, it talks about the feeling of powerlessness, which I think is so much to be addressed. And I think it's so important that we as church give a message of hope in the midst of these horrible struggles, what's going on in so many cities in the United States.
5:55at least the church cannot be silent you've spoken very strongly we're trying to do the same in our country and yet not get into the political fray I know even the challenges that's one place I should be I wish there were a strong voice Even though I'm the president for the Congress to speak out, there's been some good movement in that sense, but I certainly have to keep continuing my courage.
6:31Ben Meiselas:And this was from last week or a little bit longer than last, early November, where Pope Leo called for a deep reflection on the treatment of migrants in the United States. He was actually speaking to journalists just outside Rome. Pope Leo XIV said that many people who have lived for years and years in the U.S. never causing problems are deeply affected by the current situation. And it's important to note, right, that the Pope Leo XIV has his roots in Chicago. And so he talked about how they're depriving the migrants of mass. They're not allowing the priests to hold or conduct mass. And the treatment of priests outside the detention facilities, not just in Chicago, but across the United States, has been absolutely terrible.
7:23Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. In the first place, the role of the church is to preach the gospel. And just a couple of days ago, we heard Matthew's gospel, chapter 25, which says, Jesus says very clearly, at the end of the world, we're going to be asked, you know, how did you receive the foreigner? Did you receive him and welcome him or not? And I think that there's a deep reflection that needs to be made in terms of what's happening. And many people who have lived for years and years and years never causing problems have been deeply affected by what's going on right now. The spiritual rights of people who have been detained should also be considered.
8:04And I would certainly invite the authorities to allow pastoral workers to attend to the needs of those people. many times have been separated from their families for a good amount of time. No one knows what's happening, but their own spiritual needs should be attended to.
8:24Ben Meiselas:And I should remind you as well, speaking of Chicago, that back in June of 2025, at an event in Chicago honoring Pope Leo XIV, Cardinal Blasi Kupich said that it is wrong to scapegoat those who are here without documents. Play this clip. It is wrong to scapegoat those who are here without documents, for indeed they are here due to a broken immigration system.
8:54Ben Meiselas:And it gets even more interesting from there. You know, a very conservative archbishop by the name of Alexander Sample from the Oregon region, from Portland, Oregon. Archbishop Alexander Sample, again, long considered one of America's most conservative in the church, according to Christopher Hale. He issued a public statement condemning Donald Trump and J.D. Vance's recent immigration raids. Human dignity comes not from government, but from our loving God, Sample declared. So I just want to show you this united front being put on right here. And again, this is from a very conservative, very careful archbishop over in Portland, Oregon.
9:42Ben Meiselas:And here's what he had to say. Let's play this clip. It is with a heavy heart that I address all of you, my dear people. My heart is heavy because of the continued fear and anxiety that runs through the community of our Hispanic brothers and sisters in this archdiocese. This is due to the increased ICE activity within our communities, even now in the vicinity of some of our parishes. As I address all of you, I am attending the annual meeting of the United States Bishops in Baltimore, Maryland. I want to assure our Hispanic brothers and sisters that the shepherds of the Church in the United States are working diligently to advocate for their humane and respectful treatment.
10:30We are doing all we can to alleviate this suffering. As your Archbishop and Spiritual Father, I wish I could remove this cross from you. But I want to assure you that I am deeply concerned over what you are experiencing right now, along with all your local parish priests. I know this is a great burden for them as well, because they feel helpless to take this cross from you. It does not matter whether some of our brothers and sisters have proper documentation or not. They are our brothers and sisters in the body of Christ and have a human dignity that comes not from government, but from our loving God.
11:17Please know that I and your pastors stand with you in solidarity during this difficult time. To all of my brother priests who are caring for our people during these difficult times, I want to assure you of my support and prayers. We are in this together to uphold the dignity of every human person, every child of God. I ask all of you to lean on the love that Jesus has for each one of us. He alone is our hope, and in him alone do we trust. He is with you always and will never abandon you. Place yourselves in his hands. All of you are deeply in my prayers each and every day. God bless you. Viva Cristo Rey.
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13:49Ben Meiselas:Now, in cities across the United States, we're seeing Catholic priests, bishops, congregants speaking out against the horrific treatment of migrants. For example, this past week, Catholics in Philadelphia responded to Pope Leo XIV's call to action to stand up against the Trump regime. Watch what happened in Philly. But I could show you this basically in San Diego, in Portland. I could show you this in a lot of cities, but let me show you this. Let's play this clip. Yeah, and the prayers in that religious procession, it started right here on 8th Street in front of the Philadelphia Icefield office.
14:25And they made their way around the block and back. Now, this is part of a national campaign calling on people of faith to stand in solidarity with migrants and speak out against the Trump administration's aggressive deportation actions.
14:43Coming together in prayer and solidarity for the immigrant community.
14:50Today, Philly area Catholics, students and immigrant rights groups, they gathered outside the Icefield office in Center City. As a Catholic woman, as a woman of faith, as a Puerto Rican who's greatly committed to the causes of all Latin Americans and all people without documents, it is my responsibility to be here today. The crowd followed faith leaders in a Eucharistic procession circling the ICE office. Many carrying religious paintings as well as signs speaking out against mass deportations and in support of immigrant families. Trying our best to address the lack of due process and the injustice toward the immigrants throughout our country at this point.
15:34Today's action comes a week after Pope Leo called for deep reflection in the U.S. about the treatment of immigrants in detention. I would like to salute our Holy Father, Pope Leo, who has given us a very clear direction as to how we are to respond as Christians to the plight of migrants all throughout the world. Other Catholic leaders following in the Pope's footsteps. Last night, U.S. bishops issued a special message speaking out against the Trump administration's deportation policies, reading in part, We oppose the indiscriminate mass deportation of people. We pray for an end to dehumanizing rhetoric and violence, whether directed at immigrants or at law enforcement.
16:13And many today reciting the St. Francis Cabrini Pledge, pledging to follow in the footsteps of the patron saint of immigrants and pray for migrants. I'm Miguel Martinez-Valli, NBC 10 News.
16:23Ben Meiselas:One of the things we're seeing as well is how the U.S. bishops picked Trump immigration critics to lead a lot of their conferences now, I think is interesting. Christopher Hale has been a great reporter on this. America's Catholic bishops elected two defenders of migrants as their new leaders. The move encouraged by Pope Leo XIV signals that welcoming the stranger is now the core to the church's mission. As Trump's aggressive deportation raids sweep the country, U.S. Catholic bishops have chosen leadership that is boldly challenging his immigration raids. meeting in a hotel ballroom in Baltimore on Tuesday, their first major gathering under Pope Leo XIV.
17:09Ben Meiselas:The bishops elected Archbishop Paul S. Coakley of Oklahoma City as conference president and Bishop Daniel Flores of Brownsville, Texas as vice president. And then they issued that powerful statement. So we see one of the reasons why Pope Leo XIV got that position because of his strength in standing up to Donald Trump and this regime. I want to show this to you as well. This was a powerful statement from Cardinal Kupic. I showed you him before at the Chicago Stadium a few months ago, but this was last month. Chicago Cardinal Kupic shared this message to undocumented migrants. Play this clip. And Chicago Cardinal Blaisupic releasing videos today where he He said that, quote, the church stands with migrants.
17:59And he had this message to those who were undocumented. Most of you have been here for years. You have worked hard. You have raised families. You have contributed to this nation. You have earned our respect. In the videos that were made in both English and Spanish, the Cardinal saying that he would insist that immigrants be treated with dignity. And he said Americans shouldn't forget we all come from immigrant families.
18:30Ben Meiselas:And as James Martin, a priest, explains, after repeatedly requesting permission and following all the official guidelines, Catholic bishops, priests and sisters and lay people were refused permission to distribute communion and hold mass to migrants in an ICE detention center on All Saints Day. And this has been a common occurrence that we've seen. Meanwhile, you have Trump regime officials attacking the Catholic Church. Tom Homan says the Catholic Church is wrong to criticize the Trump regime's treatment of migrants. Here, play this clip. Secure borders saves lives. I wish the Catholic Church would understand that.
19:11We have the right to secure our borders like they have the right to secure their facility. You can't enter their facility without getting arrested. Matter of fact, the penalties for entering their facilities are much worse than ours. So, you know, We're going to force the law, and by doing that, we're saving a lot of lives. Secure borders save lives. And one of the reasons no one talks about why we have the most secure border in the history of this nation is because of exactly what ICE is doing. ICE is sending a message to the whole world. Don't give your life savings to come to the country because you're not going to be released.
19:40You're not going to cross the border illegally or you're going to be prosecuted. So the Catholic Church is wrong. I'm sorry. I'm a lifelong Catholic. I'm saying it as not only at borders. I'll say it as a Catholic. I think they need to spend time fixing the Catholic Church, in my opinion.
19:53Ben Meiselas:So certainly interesting developments there, but Pope Leo XIV striking back against the Trump regime. Let me know what you think. I think this deserves more attention. And again, let me just be clear about this. Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, Hindu, something, you know, what I still think is so important, more important than any doctrinal religious view in my view. is just doing our best in this time to try to be a good person. And where religion calls on that, or no religion, but when we call upon the better nature of our humanity, I don't want to lose sight of that in the back and forth of politics.
20:40Ben Meiselas:And I think right now, having moral clarity is the most important thing. So yeah, I'll do videos where I cover MAGA Mike this and Trump that and this person that, But at its core, what I want you to take away is we're trying here at the Midas Touch Network to further help humanity and to foster empathy and to love thy neighbor, not in a religious sense, just to treat each other with respect and dignity. And this Trump regime has done the opposite of that. And that at its core is why it's so important for us to resist and assert ourselves right now. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. Thanks for watching.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump getting rebuked by Pope Leo XIV and Leo’s Convention of Bishops and Cardinals inside the United States in the most powerful denunciation by the Catholic Church of a sitting President in the history of the United States.
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