Furious Zelenskyy Scares Trump into Full Surrender!!!

24 May 2026 · 25 min · 10 chapters

Ask about this episode

Ask anything about it. ChatGPT or Claude reads this page and answers with the times it was said.

Connect VO and ask about every podcast you hear, including the moments you saved. Add to ChatGPT · Add to Claude

In short

The episode argues that Ukrainian pressure is forcing Russia toward diplomacy while the U.S. under Donald Trump is “surrendering” and stepping back from Ukraine-Russia peace talks. It claims Marco Rubio announced at a NATO meeting in Sweden that the U.S. is out of mediated negotiations, citing a clip where Rubio says talks weren’t fruitful and the U.S. stands ready only if productive talks emerge. The host pairs this with alleged Ukrainian successes: drones hitting Novorossysk port infrastructure and repeated strikes on Russia’s Samara Cizron oil refinery. Key examples include Zelensky’s claim of 590 square kilometers liberated since the year began and increased Russian personnel losses, plus sanctions via drone attacks. Guests named: Michael McAul (former ambassador to Russia), Steve Witkoff (Trump envoy; quoted via past CNBC remarks), Mark Rutte (NATO secretary general; quoted), Peter Magyar (Hungary PM; quoted), Wadful (Germany’s foreign minister; quoted), General Wald (former EUCOM deputy commander; quoted), Senator Kennedy (Louisiana; quoted), Ben Hodges (former U.S. Army Europe commander; quoted), and Ukraine’s UN ambassador (speech excerpt).

Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.

Chapters

Tap a time to open that second in VO

Zelenskyy's Strategic Moves

2:31 to 4:12

Understand how Zelenskyy's actions challenge Trump's approach.

“Donald Trump surrenders and surrenders publicly with shame and humiliation.”

US's Role in Ukraine Negotiations

4:12 to 6:06

Examine America's diminishing role in Ukraine peace talks.

“Yeah, the peace negotiations on Ukraine under American leadership.”

Zelenskyy's Recent Messages

6:06 to 8:06

Learn about Ukraine's advances and Zelenskyy's international outreach.

“And this surrender comes at the same time that Steve Whitcoff, Donald Trump's envoy to Russia and Ukraine supposedly, announced that he would be taking his seventh visit to Russia to meet with his idol, Vladimir Putin.”

NATO's Support for Ukraine

8:06 to 11:39

Discover NATO's commitment to Ukraine's defense and stability.

“Since the beginning of the year, 590 square kilometers of our territory have been liberated and brought under Ukrainian control.”

European Security and Ukraine

13:54 to 14:04

Understand the European perspective on strengthening Ukraine's security.

“Germany's Foreign Minister Wadful, here's what he had to say, play this clip.”

Germany's Commitment to Ukraine

14:04 to 14:58

Learn about Germany's strong support for Ukraine and NATO collaboration.

“With a view to strengthening European security, which also serves the purpose of strengthening the European pillar within NATO, we propose further intensifying cooperation with Ukraine.”

Military Perspectives on Ukraine's Defense

14:58 to 17:58

Hear various military leaders' views on Ukraine's effective defense against Russia.

“I support everything we can do for NATO in the Ukraine issue.”

Ukraine's Security Council Address

17:58 to 20:21

Discover the powerful speech by Ukraine's ambassador at the UN Security Council.

“So even though Ukraine is the best military in Europe right now, it's a political decision, not like a meritocracy.”

Russia's Role and Hypocrisy in the Conflict

20:21 to 22:59

Examine the accusations against Russia regarding its actions in the Ukraine conflict.

“This recurring exercise in political theater staged by Russia in this chamber is not only entirely predictable, but also profoundly disrespectful to the members of this council.”

Trump's Promises of Quick Peace

22:59 to 23:56

Listen to Trump's bold claims about resolving the Ukraine war instantly.

“And if I win before I get into the office, I will have that war settled.”
Hear the part that matters, and keep it.Open this episode in VO. Double tap your headphones to save a moment as you listen.
Get VO free

Transcript

Automatic transcript. May contain errors.

0:00Ben Meiselas:We have the tech to get food delivered in 15 minutes, but we all have horror stories about buying tickets. The GameTime app gives fans the advantage. Get amazing tickets in just a few taps. Fees are included, so what you see is what you pay. And the GameTime guarantee means authentic tickets at the best price every time. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets to concerts, sports, comedy, and more with GameTime. Download the GameTime app and create an account for$20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. This podcast is sponsored by IQ Bar. Not to be a stereotype or anything, but I am one of those go, go, go girls.

0:36So I have so much stuff that's always on my plate. And I always try to grab something on the go after the gym. And it's always so hard to find something that's actually going to be good tasting and good for you, right? Because every time you grab a protein bar that looks like it's going to be okay, you flip it around and you start to read the ingredient list and it's all sugar. And it's all stuff that you can't even pronounce. All I want is something good to eat. IQ Bar is the better for you plant-based protein snack made with brain-boosting nutrients to refuel, nourish, and satisfy hunger without the sugar crash.

1:05IQ Bar has low sugar, low carbs, and it's actually really good. Optimize your mind and body with IQ Bar's clean, functional products like protein bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Go to IQBar.com today and enter promo code BRAINIQ to get an exclusive offer just for our listeners. 20 % off all IQ Bar products, plus free shipping. That's IQBar.com, promo code BRAINIQ. iqbar.com, code BRAINIQ. This Memorial Day, shop one of Avocado's biggest mattress sales of the year and fall in love with sleep again. At Avocado, better sleep starts with better materials. Our certified organic mattresses are crafted without compromise, using high-quality organic materials that bring comfort and support into perfect balance.

1:52No polyurethane foams. No shortcuts. Just a cleaner, more natural sleep experience that your body will appreciate night after night. So you fall asleep more easily. Stay asleep longer and wake up feeling refreshed and ready for the day ahead. That's sleep with purpose. This Memorial Day, discover what it means to truly sleep well. Upgrade and save up to 20 % on our award-winning mattresses. Shop the Memorial Day sale now and get up to 20 % off at AvocadoMattress.com or select retailers nationwide. Visit AvocadoMattress.com. That's AvocadoMattress.com.

2:30Ben Meiselas:Zelensky calls checkmate. Donald Trump surrenders and surrenders publicly with shame and humiliation. Donald Trump sent Marco Rubio to this NATO meeting in Sweden where Rubio announced the U.S. was officially quitting, was surrendering its role in having any mediated discussions between Ukraine and Russia. So whereas Donald Trump promised that even before day one in office, it would be so easy for him to bring peace between Ukraine and Russia, officially Marco Rubio announced in Sweden at this NATO meeting that the U.S. is out, no longer going to have a role in mediated negotiations. This has happened at the same time Ukrainian drones are successfully reaching into Moscow.

3:22Ben Meiselas:In the past 12 hours, Ukrainian drones were able to hit port infrastructure in the Novorossysk, Russia region. This is this Black Sea hub, critical area that Russia uses to transport weapons and to transport oil. Also, Ukraine was able to hit the Cizron oil refinery in Russia's Samara region over and over again. Ukraine is hitting these big Russian oil depots. Let me bring you to what went down yesterday when Marco Rubio was there in Sweden and saying, we're done with peace talks. America's out. What we did has not been able to yield results. surrender by Donald Trump and his weak, cowardly and pathetic regime.

4:11Ben Meiselas:Play this clip. Yeah, the peace negotiations on Ukraine under American leadership. Let me just say we got involved because we were told we were the only ones that could do it. We were the only ones that the Russians and the Ukrainians would talk to. So we got involved. They were not fruitful. Unfortunately, that's the play. We stand ready to continue to play that role. Despite leaks that are not true, despite stories out there about us forcing the Ukrainians to take this position or that position which are not true uh we if we see an opportunity to pull together talks that are productive not counterproductive and that have the chance to be fruitful we're prepared to play that role there are non-going there are no such talks occurring at this time but we hope that will change because that war can only end with a negotiated settlement it will not end with a military victory by one side or the other at least from a traditional standpoint of how military victories are defined.

5:02So it will have to lead. And if we can play a role in making that happen, the president is very much interested in doing it. We just, you know, over the last few months, just sort of sensed that there wasn't a lot of progress being made, but maybe dynamics will change. And if they do, we stand ready to play whatever constructive role we can play. If someone else would like to handle it, they should, but it doesn't appear to be anybody else in the world right now that can handle it. So we're more than happy to do that. If the opportunity presents itself to have constructive and productive talks, we're also not interested in getting involved in an endless cycle of meetings that lead to nothing.

5:34Ben Meiselas:Okay. Former ambassador to Russia, Michael McAul writes, what a complete failure. Trump gave Putin all sorts of concessions, including cutting aid to Ukraine and denying Ukraine's membership in NATO, and then taking off all oil sanctions from Russia, taking off sanctions from financial institutions from Russia and Belarus, and Trump got nothing in return, a sad chapter in American diplomatic history, a sad chapter in history, indeed. And this surrender comes at the same time that Steve Whitcoff, Donald Trump's envoy to Russia and Ukraine supposedly, announced that he would be taking his seventh visit to Russia to meet with his idol, Vladimir Putin.

6:21Ben Meiselas:Trump envoy Whitcoff expected to visit Russia again in the near future to meet with Putin and Kirill Dmitriev. That was announced two days ago before the official surrender. And of course, we saw Whitcoff arriving in Moscow multiple times before where he basically kisses Vladimir Putin's feet. He puts his hands on his heart and he says, Putin, you are such a strong man. Putin, you are so strong. Utterly pathetic behavior. Let me just remind you the type of things that Whitcoff would say, this loser. March 10th, 2026, Whitcoff on CNBC. Here's what he said regarding the talks with Russia and Ukraine back on March 10th, 2026.

7:04Ben Meiselas:Let's play this clip. This year, you think you can get a deal this year? I'm sorry? You think you can get a deal to negotiate a peaceful end this year in Ukraine? Well, I mean, look, I'm just I'm a logical person. And and for me, again, I think that President Trump is generally successful in in getting these things settled in this particular circumstance. And he said it. It's taking longer than he thought. But we're beginning. We're seeing signs that both sides are weary and tired. and hopefully that's the beginning inflection point. Same thing in the Middle East. There was an inflection point where we just, Jared and I both sensed that they were done with the war and let's hope that we're at that place today or soon.

7:59All right, wait, I'm done.

8:00Ben Meiselas:Now, Zelensky issued the following message. Ukraine's position is stronger now than in previous years. Since the beginning of the year, 590 square kilometers of our territory have been liberated and brought under Ukrainian control. This trend is certainly not in the occupier's favor. We continue to increase the rate at which Russian personnel are being eliminated. And together with sanctions in all their forms, this is forcing Russia toward diplomacy. Sanctions in all of their forms refers to, well, yes, the U.S. has removed sanctions against Russian oil, But Ukraine has imposed its long-range sanctions against Russia in the form of Ukrainian FPV drone strikes, destroying Russian oil depots, destroying Russia's fleet.

8:52Ben Meiselas:Zelensky also posted that he had a call with UK Prime Minister Kierre Starmer, French President Emmanuel Macron, Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Merz. The E3 Ukrainian format is what they call it. And as the Trump regime surrenders, they're not being involved in settlement discussions anymore. You have this discussion taking place now amongst Starmer, Macron, Merz, and Zelensky about their involvement in diplomacy. All of these nations working together. Now, Kate from Kharkiv, she posted the following message. So Rubio says that the U.S.-led peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine were not fruitful.

9:36Ben Meiselas:Not fruitful? Let's look at the facts. Your negotiator visited Russia seven times, Witkoff, and Ukraine zero times. You demanded concessions from Ukraine before negotiations even begun and throughout the entire process. You pressured Ukraine by cutting off weapons support entirely, constantly bad-mouthing us, and showing up at our doorstep waving Russian peace plans. You demanded we sign immediately, literally taking Putin's plan and shoving it in our faces. And now, after Ukraine stands more firmly on its feet without your support, you realize you can't pressure us anymore, so your excuse is that you are tired and leaving?

10:16Ben Meiselas:How about for once you actually support the victim, which is Ukraine, instead of terrorists like the Russian regime? Send your team to Kiev, support our fight, and apply real pressure on the aggressor. sanction Russia, Russia, seize their shadow fleet instead of handing out sanction waivers. Do that and maybe negotiations will magically become fruitful. Over in Sweden, you had Mark Rutte, the secretary general of NATO. Here's what he said about Ukraine's ability. Let's play this clip. Ukraine is putting up a strong defense. And when you look at the frontline at the moment, it is stabilizing there are even reports that ukraine is net in net terms regaining territory not massively but at least it's stabilizing and potentially even moving now in the right direction and not any longer in the wrong direction so from the west to the east and not from the east to the west and and and this is amazing and this is what ukrainians are doing and ukrainians have been incredible ingenuities in terms of their ability to innovate.

11:24And this is one of the things we are learning all over NATO from Ukraine. For example, it comes to the drone warfare and the anti-drone technologies. This is why we have JTEC, this joint organization in Poland, where we capture all the lessons from the war so that we can figure them in the NATO plans. So I would not be too happy if I was put in today, but I was never happy if I was put in. but particularly not the last couple of weeks because things are not going in the right direction.

11:53Ben Meiselas:Indeed, Ukraine is gaining territory. Also, you had Hungarian Prime Minister Peter Magyar. What a change from Putin's bootlicker Orban to Magyar. What a breath of fresh air over Orban's nonsense, as Kate from Kharkiv puts it. Here's what Magyar had to say, play this clip. You know, the territorial integrity of Ukraine was guaranteed in 1994 in the Budapest Memorandum, was signed in Budapest, of course. And the problem is that the international stage didn't really do its job and did not guarantee the integrity and the independence of Ukraine. And now we need a peace agreement with real guarantees.

12:51Ben Meiselas:I've learned the hard way that car repairs never happen at a convenient time. Everything seems fine, then suddenly you're staring at a repair bill for thousands of dollars. And with today's vehicles packed with advanced technology, those costs are only getting higher. That's why CarShield makes so much sense. CarShield helps protect you from expensive covered repairs and lets you lock in your rate today so you're not hit by surprise inflation tomorrow. It's a smart, proactive way to protect your budget and your peace of mind. Freedom of movement is a fundamental American value, and nothing kills that freedom faster than being stranded on the side of the road with a massive, unexpected repair bill.

13:29Ben Meiselas:Whether you're hitting the road for a well-deserved break or just navigating your daily life, don't leave your freedom to chance. Secure your vehicle with CarShield. Right now, CarShield is offering our listeners 20 % off with the code MIDAS at carshield.com slash MIDAS. Visit carshield.com slash Midas to lock in your coverage today and protect yourself from expensive car repairs. Again, go to carshield.com slash Midas and use code Midas, that's M-E-I-D-A-S, for 20 % off. Germany's Foreign Minister Wadful, here's what he had to say, play this clip. With a view to strengthening European security, which also serves the purpose of strengthening the European pillar within NATO, we propose further intensifying cooperation with Ukraine.

14:20It's about ensuring that we, through our European NATO partners and Canada, consistently meet Ukraine's specific support needs. The message is very clear. We will not waver in our support. Ukraine always has the staying power. It can always count on our support. That must be the message from Ankara. Therefore, it is still time to be ready for negotiations. We must enter these negotiations with a position of strength.

14:51Ben Meiselas:General Wald, former UCOM deputy commander, European command deputy commander. Here's what he had to say on state regime media. Let's play this clip. I support it. I support everything we can do for NATO in the Ukraine issue. I think the Ukrainian military and government has done a fantastic job of defending itself. I think it's put Russia in a tough spot from the standpoint. The saying goes that Russia had the second best military in the world before it invaded Ukraine. Now they have the second best military in Ukraine. That's a truism. It's not just funny. So I think they've identified a weakness in Russia.

15:33I think they've shown great courage, and I think we should support them.

15:36Ben Meiselas:We heard from Senator Kennedy, MAGA Republican from Louisiana. Here's what he had to say to General Smith during a hearing that just took place in the United States Senate. Let's play it. Is Russia our friend? Sir, they're not. Between Ukraine and Russia, who do we want to win that war? Well, we prefer there not be a war, but obviously - But there is. Who do we want to win? Obviously, we want Ukraine to stand independently and not be consumed by Russia. Okay. Now, when Putin went into Ukraine, he thought he was going to roll in and take it over in two days like thunder on a summer night, didn't he?

16:19I believe he did. But the Ukrainian people have fought back, haven't they? Yes, sir. They have fought back. And they now have some of the most sophisticated drone technology in the history of the world, don't they? Sure they do. They're doing very well with drones. And they're giving, with the limited resources they have, they're giving Russia a curb stomping, aren't they? I would say they are. In fact, they have knocked out, with their limited resources, 40 % of Russia's export ability of their oil. They, since January, using their drones and limited cruise missiles, they have hit oil and gas facilities within Russia over 100 times.

17:08Not on the border, within Russia. Right? Yes, sir. And Putin was so scared, he almost had to cancel their military parade. It didn't. Well, I'm not sure of that, sir, but I will take your word for that, sir.

17:24Ben Meiselas:Okay. Then my friend Ben Hodges, Ben Hodges, former U.S. Army European Command. He was the main general there. Here's what he had to say. Let's play this clip. I think what we're going to see, even though Ukraine is not invited to join the alliance yet, eventually they will be because people will wake up and realize that we'll get better the day the Ukrainians are members. just like we got better the day Sweden and Finland as they joined. But these are political decisions. So even though Ukraine is the best military in Europe right now, it's a political decision, not like a meritocracy. I do believe that Ukraine has become a security, a net security exporter.

18:14You know, the Germans have invited them to come help train their soldiers, which is significant. And then, of course, the Saudis and others are starting to buy Ukrainian counter UAV technologies. I really think that in about 10 years, Ukraine is going to be the heart of European defense industry, much like it was the heart of the Soviet Union's defense industry. I just think that they're so far ahead of everybody. They just can't get the scale yet.

18:46Ben Meiselas:And then I want to bring you into the United Nations hearing in the Security Council yesterday, where Russia called an emergency meeting, where Russia said it was the victim of Ukrainian aggression. So Ukraine's ambassador to the United Nations gave what was one of the most powerful speeches I've heard in a long time in the Security Council. This was the Ukraine ambassador to the United Nations. Watch as Russia's ambassador to the United Nations refused to even look at the Ukrainian ambassador. Watch this. Mr. President, distinguished members of this council, before I proceed with my statement, I want to react to the invitation of Mr.

19:28Nebenzian. I'm not sure that I will have any appetite to visit Moscow. Even when Russia is defeated, even when and after Putin's regime has collapsed, even after Russia has paid war reparations, even when the next government in Russia were to back on its knees for an apology even after all the Russian war criminals will be sentenced there will be no reconciliation between Ukraine and Russia for decades maybe for centuries I will even refuse to visit Moscow as a member of Ukraine delegation that will travel to Russia to witness Russia's signature of its declaration of capitulation. Mr. President, unlike on other occasions, I will refrain today from thanking the presidency, and I will not extend the customary words of appreciation for the convening of this emergency meeting, as neither the facts nor the circumstances provide any legitimate justification for placing this matter before the Security Council this afternoon.

20:48What we have been witnessing over recent months, both at the previous meetings of this council and today, is a shameless attempt by the Russian Federation to turn reality upside down and to present itself here as a victim. This recurring exercise in political theater staged by Russia in this chamber is not only entirely predictable, but also profoundly disrespectful to the members of this council. The rationale behind this shameless performance, orchestrated once again by the Russian delegation in this distinguished hall, is as self-evident as the contempt it demonstrates towards its council. The Ukrainian delegation wishes to express its profound concern that Russia, having appropriated the permanent seat of the former Soviet Union at the Security Council, under legally questionable and dubious circumstances, continues to exploit this unmerited privilege with growing cynicism and complete disregard for this council.

21:55Ben Meiselas:Let me show you what he also said. Here, let's play this clip. Mr. President, the hypocrisy of Russia's federation knows no limits. the Russian representative routinely uses mirror propaganda accusing Ukraine of the exact war crimes that Moscow commits daily. Russian troops continue to deliberately target Ukrainian cities as we speak, energy grids and residential areas, while Ukraine surgically dismantles the military infrastructure enabling those attacks. Mr. President, I would pose what is perhaps a rhetoric question to this chamber. For how much longer will the members of the Security Council, those who rightfully serve here, either by virtue of the UN Charter or by the trust vested in them by the General Assembly, continue to tolerate this cynical instrumentalization by Russia, this undisguised mockery at the hands of the Russian self-appointed imposters seated among us?

22:58Ben Meiselas:and then i'll just remind you what donald trump said a while ago about bringing peace that it would be so easy he would do it right before day one he guaranteed you it was his promise the same way he's going to lower prices the same way there is that is what he was going to do peace in you he's gonna he knows putin well he knows zielinski well easy liar fraud God, liar. Play this clip. I would fix that within 24 hours. And if I win before I get into the office, I will have that war settled. 100 % sure. As president elect, if I win this election, the first thing I'm going to do is call up Zelensky and call up President Putin.

23:43Ben Meiselas:And I'm going to say, you got to make a deal. This is crazy. There you have it, everybody. let me know what y 'all think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers. Let's get to 7 million, please. Thanks for watching, everybody.

From the publisher

MeidasTouch Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump quitting all negotiations with Ukraine as Zelenskyy takes the upper hand against Russia during the war.

CarShield is offering 20% OFF with the code MEIDAS at https://www.CarShield.com/Meidas

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

More from The MeidasTouch Podcast

All 2,222 episodes
Furious Zelenskyy Scares Trump into Full Surrender!!!The MeidasTouch Podcast · 25 min
Listen in VO