In short
The episode argues that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is countering Donald Trump’s Russia policy—specifically Trump removing sanctions on Russian oil and Russian shipping vessels—by rallying Europe, expanding security cooperation in the Middle East, and continuing deep strikes that degrade Russia’s oil exports and air defenses. It also claims the U.S. is deprioritizing Ukraine because it is focused on Iran.
Guests
No named guests appear in the transcript; the host speaks throughout.
Key claims
Ukraine is “Europe,” sanctions relief helps Russia and Iran, Zelensky refuses territorial concessions like Donbas, and Ukraine’s drone/missile interception rates are rising.
Notable examples
Zelensky’s Middle East speech (Qatar/UAE/Saudi/Jordan/Kuwait); Poland’s denial of claims about Polish airspace; U.S. OFAC lifting sanctions on three Russian vessels; reported collapse of Russian seaborne oil exports (22 tankers, down 45%); rising interception rates (up to ~90% in March 2026); Zelensky’s talks with Germany’s Friedrich Merz; offers of Easter/30/60-day ceasefires.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOZelenskyy's Response to Trump
4:27 to 5:00
Analyzing Zelenskyy's strong stance against Trump's actions.
“What was obvious to these Arab nations is that Ukraine is Europe.”
Ukraine's Role in European Security
5:00 to 6:05
Exploring Ukraine's strategic importance in Europe.
“In the Middle East and the Gulf, when countries turn to Ukraine for support, they see Ukraine as Europe.”
Zelenskyy's Speech Highlights
6:05 to 7:40
Key points from Zelenskyy's recent speeches and their implications.
“But then Zelensky also reflected about how the U.S.”
U.S. Focus on Iran Over Ukraine
7:40 to 9:30
Discussing U.S. priorities and their effect on Ukraine.
“that Donald Trump and Marco Rubio in the US, they keep on saying, withdraw from Donbass, get out of Donbass, and then we could try to make a deal.”
Russia's Demands and Sanction Lifts
9:30 to 11:40
Examining Russia's ultimatums and U.S. sanction policies.
“I'm going back to Zelensky here for a moment as well.”
Zelenskyy's Military Strategy Against Russia
11:40 to 13:55
Detailing Ukraine's military strategies against Russian oil exports.
“Thanks for all the hard work you're putting in.”
Ukraine's Strategic Strikes on Russian Infrastructure
14:04 to 16:35
Learn about Ukraine's effectiveness in targeting Russian oil exports and military capabilities.
“in attacking all of the Russian bases of their oil exports, all of their oil export centers.”
Zelenskyy's Calls for Ceasefire and Cooperation
16:36 to 16:58
Explore Zelenskyy's recent diplomatic efforts and proposals for ceasefires.
“that Zelensky made also in the past 12 hours, he said, look, we're ready for any ceasefire, an Easter ceasefire, a 30-day ceasefire, a 60-day ceasefire.”
Trump's Controversial Actions Regarding Russia and Cuba
16:59 to 18:28
Examine the implications of Trump's policies towards Russia and Cuba amidst ongoing conflicts.
“The Russian Duma going to the Capitol last week, meeting with the State Department, the top Russian Duma leaders, basically like their senators.”
Transcript
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3:00So Zelensky is uniting Europe and making it very clear, not only is Ukraine part of Europe, but Ukraine is going to be a leader in Europe when it is welcomed into the European Union eventually, and it should have already happened already in my humble opinion, but that Ukraine is providing the security umbrella for Europe and that a strong European security umbrella could allow Europe to become a leader of the free world. And by the way, I wouldn't be shocked if that aligns with kind of the Canadian military interests as well. And then some of the interests in Asia that Mark Carney is helping to unite.
3:43And I think Zelensky is a critical and pivotal player in that. Let me just show you what went down over the past 12 to 24 hours as well. I mean, it's one of the things that Zelensky has been repeating, though, is he goes, you know, what do you think about Donald Trump liking you? And does he like you? Zelensky goes, look, I'm not a box of chocolate or a car to be liked or not liked. What matters is I serve my people and fulfill my duties. And then yesterday, President Zelensky gave this powerful speech and said, you know, when I toured the Middle East, when I met with the leaders of Qatar and UAE and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Kuwait, and they were asking for Ukrainians help in building a security umbrella there that the United States could not do, as they were asking for our drone interceptor technology, our drone surveillance technology, our affirmative drone offensive capabilities, our unmanned vessel capabilities and unmanned vessel interceptor technology.
4:47What was obvious to these Arab nations is that Ukraine is Europe. Europe is Ukraine and Ukraine is a leader in providing security throughout for its allies. Watch what he said yesterday. Powerful speech indeed. Here play this clip. In the Middle East and the Gulf, when countries turn to Ukraine for support, they see Ukraine as Europe. They see it as working with Europe. No one there doubts that Ukraine is Europe. Ukraine's contribution to global stability is seen as Europe's contribution by everyone in the world. So why, in some key issues, is Ukraine still limited as a part of Europe? Ukraine's EU membership is a security guarantee for us and for Europe.
5:41Our potential human, technological, military is Europe's potential. Russia understands this sometimes better than some, some in Europe. That is why Russia does everything to stop Ukraine from joining the EU. And that is why we are doing everything to make it happen. But then Zelensky also reflected about how the U.S. keeps on saying, well, we're not really interested in talking about Russia's invasion of Ukraine anymore. We're too busy dealing with Iran. So, yeah, you know, we're going to let up the sanctions on Russia and let them sell their oil and make billions of dollars a day. You know, we're going to invite the Russian Duma leaders to the Capitol, to Capitol Hill.
6:31And we're going to then also release Russian sanctions or remove Russian sanctions on certain vessels. But we're just we're just too busy to deal with that. We're focused on Iran right now. What are you focused on doing there? Donald Trump doing press conferences where he just lies every day. Here, play this clip. We have such risks, of course, because American side, it's not a secret, they're very open with this, that their focus is Iran. That Ukraine is not the first priority. They shared this message with my team, and my team said that, look, but in any way, we have such big... They said, yes, it's very important for us, the situation in Ukraine, the situation with the war russia against ukraine but you have to know this our army is in iran and that's why our focus is on middle east we hope they say we hope that in the closest future the war will end and we will come back to yours and then zelinski in this very revealing moment says i'll tell you what the united states has been repeating over and over again that Donald Trump and Marco Rubio in the US, they keep on saying, withdraw from Donbass, get out of Donbass, and then we could try to make a deal.
7:50You just give up your territory, give up the Donbass region. And Zelensky's like, I'm not going to give up Donbass. Like, what are you talking about? Here, play this clip. You have to withdraw, and we will give you security guarantees. And it doesn't matter what way, I heard it not once. So it's understandable for us And it's understandable for Russians And it's very understandable for American side It's truth But it's not about just America American side It's the ultimatum from Russia For today American side can't change The ultimatum of Russia I think they can I think that President Trump Have enough power for this He demonstrated it not once.
8:39He has this to change Russian narratives. And it's notable because in the past 12 hours as well, Russia has repeated its public demand. Zelensky, Ukraine, withdraw from Donbass immediately. You have two months to withdraw or we are going to seize it by force. You've been trying to seize it by force. You want Donald Trump to extort Zelensky or to help hand over territory to you through coercion and other means, that which you can obtain on the battlefield through your invasion of Ukraine. And that's what Russia views as a peace deal. They want Donbass. Then they're going to go into Kiev. They're just going to keep taking, taking, taking.
9:28That is who they are. I mean, no doubt that is who they are. I'm going back to Zelensky here for a moment as well. I'm during the speech also, he said, look, you know, we've always tried to have the backs of the people in Iran. And despite the fact that there's so much disinformation in the United States right now, we still believe that the American hearts have not grown so cold. And again, this is a clear reference to Donald Trump here. Play this clip. We also see that many Iranians around the world respect Ukraine and are grateful that we did not stay silent about their pain and their desire to end dictatorship and live freely.
10:12And we all should act to help them, of course. And we feel that despite all the disinformation, American hearts have not grown cold. They support those who fight for freedom and they support us in defending ourselves against Russian aggression. It's very important.
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11:42Ben Meiselas:And I'm really proud of you, Popak. Thanks for all the hard work you're putting in. Now, an official account of the Polish armed forces also refuted Russia's disinformation campaign aimed at convincing audiences that Ukraine is using Polish airspace for strikes on Russian territory. You had the following Polish armed forces statement in connection with false information appearing in the public domain. I firmly emphasize claims about the alleged provision of Polish airspace for offensive operations against the Russian Federation are completely false and have no basis. In fact, also, Russia's turning up its disinformation campaign and trying to help Viktor Orban, who is far behind in the election, which is set to take place in less than two weeks in Hungary, where we expect a pro-democracy coalition to beat Viktor Orban.
12:35But we also expect there to be a huge amount of tampering in that election by Putin and by Trump, who are trying to prop Orban up. As I mentioned in the past 24 to 48 hours, the United States removing sanctions against Russian vessels. They already removed sanctions against Russian oil, but now they're removing sanctions against Russian vessels themselves as well. The United States has removed sanctions from three Russian vessels, according to an update from the US Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control. The ships affected are the container vessels and I'll list who they are. ship tracking data shows that these vessels are currently throughout various locations with sanctions lifted the vessels can once again access ports insurance financial transactions and international maritime services that had previously been restricted under u.s sanctions so folks as russia is materially helping iran and they're saying it publicly both the iranian President Pesekian and Putin.
13:38They're saying it publicly as they're helping to arm Iran, attack American military bases with precision, attack American soldiers. As that is taking place, Donald Trump keeps lifting sanctions and keeps on helping Putin over and over and over again. Now, one thing that Zelensky is doing, though, as Donald Trump is lifting the sanctions, and I highlighted this in a report that I did yesterday, Zelensky has been very successful in attacking all of the Russian bases of their oil exports, all of their oil export centers. Russia's seaborne oil exports collapsed in the wake of Ukraine's strikes on various Russian ports with only 22 tankers for the whole of last week down 45%.
14:23And as this Kiev independent story explains, hundreds of kilometers inside Russia, oil refineries burst into flames, like 40 % of the oil refineries in Russia have now been taken out, between 40 and 50 percent by Ukraine. And the sky above airfields and weapon factories are filled with thick black smoke. The data shows Ukraine is systematically targeting Russian air defense systems to open gaps in coverage and reach critical infrastructure like weapons factories deep inside the territory. Also, in terms of Ukraine's ability to strike down these FPV drones, ballistic missiles, and Shahi drones.
15:02Take a look at Ukraine's interception rate as it continues to improve. In October 2025, 79%, 84 % in November, 81 % in December. In 2026, in January, 83 % interception rate, 87 % interception rate in February, a 90 % interception rate in March. No wonder all of these nations want to cut deals with Ukraine to help stop the Iranian ballistic missile Shaheen drones and FPV drones as well. Finally, Zelensky posted the message about his conversations with the Chancellor of Germany, Friedrich Merz. During my conversation with the Chancellor of Germany, I informed him about my visit to countries in the Middle East and the protection systems we are offering to partners.
15:53I am grateful for the high assessment of our contribution to strengthening the protection of lives. Ukraine is ready for similar cooperation with European countries for the security of our continent. Friedrich updated me on his diplomatic contacts. We discussed in detail the negotiation process aimed at ending Russia's war against Ukraine, as well as our communication with the American side. Thank you for your principled position. Ukraine has never been and will never be an obstacle to peace. We are preparing contacts with partners in a broader format to coordinate positions and develop joint steps.
16:31Next month, we'll also see extensive bilateral work with Germany. Thank you. And then in this message that Zelensky made also in the past 12 hours, he said, look, we're ready for any ceasefire, an Easter ceasefire, a 30-day ceasefire, a 60-day ceasefire. We are not the barrier to ceasefires and peace. We're trying to have peace. Russia is the bad guy. It's pretty obvious, right? The problem is that Trump is the bad guy and has turned the U.S. into Putin bootlicker right now. And we all need to pay attention to what's taking place before our very eyes. The Russian Duma going to the Capitol last week, meeting with the State Department, the top Russian Duma leaders, basically like their senators.
17:11Donald Trump removing Russian oil sanctions, Donald Trump removing sanctions from Russian vessels, Donald Trump and Marco Rubio and his regime claiming that Russia isn't providing support to Iran and they don't know about it, while Iran targets American military bases. We have 13 military bases in the Middle East that have now been evacuated as a result of Iran being able to strike them with basically with impunity, right? You had the big strike in Saudi Arabia and Riyadh. Who do you think is giving them this information. It's the Russians. We all know it's the Russians. Oh yeah. And by the way, Donald Trump letting the Russian ship bring the oil into Cuba, which by the way, it's a war crime that Donald Trump was committing against Cuba.
17:53The embargo is a crime against humanity, regardless of your views of the Cuban regime. What Donald Trump was doing was a crime against humanity of the Cuban people, in my humble opinion. But Donald Trump was acting all tough. I did this embargo. Nobody can get through. Nobody can go to Cuba. And the Russian ship just went right into Cuba. And Donald Trump's like, of course you can come in. But Mexico, you can't, Colombia, you can't, Canada, you can't, none of our allies can. Just Russia can help Cuba. Why? To set up a base in Cuba right now? To more strongly cement Russian influence over Cuba right off the coast of Florida?
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how Donald Trump’s plan to help Russia and force Zelenskyy into submission has backfired as Zelenskyy has helped unite Europe and provide a security umbrella for the Middle East that Trump has failed to provide.
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