Ghislaine Goes Silent at Deposition to help Trump Cover Up!!

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1:53Ben Meiselas:Ghislaine Maxwell is set to have her deposition taken on Monday by the House Oversight Committee, and she has now given notice that she refuses to testify about anything. She says that she will simply be invoking the Fifth Amendment against self-incrimination despite already being incriminated as a child sex trafficker and the United States Supreme Court has rejected all of her appeals. So she has nowhere else to go at this point. So I don't think she even has a right to claim the Fifth Amendment at this stage. But she says that she won't even answer questions on a question by question basis on Monday when her deposition is set to take place.

2:40Ben Meiselas:Instead, she says that at the beginning of her deposition, she will be reading a statement or her lawyer will be reading a statement stating that she will be pleading the Fifth Amendment to each and every question that the Congress members will ask her such that she doesn't even want to take individual questions. She just says, I'm going to make a blanket assertion of the Fifth Amendment in my own personal view. This is entirely unacceptable. And this is part of the Trump MAGA coverup right here. Now, as you know, Ghislaine Maxwell did not invoke the Fifth Amendment, right, against self-incrimination when she spoke to Donald Trump's attorney, or I should say the number two at the Department of Justice, Trump's former criminal defense attorney, Todd Blanche.

3:30Ben Meiselas:She was sure willing to speak to him and lie through her teeth. Oh, I've never seen Donald engage in anything untoward or inappropriate. I knew nothing about any lists. I knew nothing about any improper conduct at all. Really, because you're all over the damn files knowing about the heinous and despicable acts, and you went through a federal trial where you were convicted of child sex trafficking by a unanimous jury. But she was willing to talk to Todd Blanche there. Then she got moved to Club Med, I mean to Camp Bryant in Texas, where she now gets VIP treatment at a minimum security facility where convicted sex traffickers were previously banned from.

4:15Ben Meiselas:And anyone at that facility who speaks out against her, they get put into maximum security facilities by the Bureau of Prisons, which has been utilized by the Trump regime to protect Ghislaine Maxwell while screwing over everybody else. Now, Ghislaine Maxwell has testified before in proceedings. She's testified in 2016 in depositions, in 2015 in deposition. So let me share this deposition that she was testifying in back in 2015, a video recorded deposition. And you'll see, again, just how creepy it is knowing now after we've reviewed the files, everything she knows. So she was willing to testify then.

4:57Ben Meiselas:Here's what she said. Play this clip. Did Jeffrey Epstein have a scheme to recruit underage girls for sexual massages? Objective form, Sandy. If you know. So, I don't know what you're talking about.

5:17Ben Meiselas:Here's more from our testimony. Let's play this clip. Can you list for me all the girls that you have met and brought to Jeffrey Epstein's house that were under the age of 18? At the Foreman Foundation. I could only recall my family members that were there, and I could not make a list of anyone else because that list never happened. But I can take off. I'm talking about during the time that you were working for Jeffrey Epstein. Right. Can you list all the girls that you found for Jeffrey Epstein that were under the age of 18 to come work with him in any capacity? Check the Forman Foundation. So I didn't find girls.

5:58You choose the word. No, you don't choose the word. If you have a question, ask it. List all of the girls that you met and brought to Jeffrey Epstein's home for the purposes of employment that were under the age of 18. Check the Forman Foundation. I've already characterized what my job was, which was to find people, adults, professional people, to do the types of jobs that I listed before. Pool person, secretary, house person, chef, pilot. But I thought about individuals under the age of 18, not adult persons, individuals under the age of 18. I only hire, look for people, try to find people to fill professional jobs and professional situations.

6:42Ben Meiselas:Finally, here's a little bit more from her testimony as well. Who were the other 17-year-old masseuses they were aware of? I'm not aware of any. Were there any 16-year-old masseuses you were aware of? I'm not aware. Any 15? Look, I just want to be clear. The only person that I'm aware of who claims to have been, you know, we have to, whilst I've established that she was 17, given that she has changed her age so many times, It's the only person that I'm aware of that was in the time when I was present in the house.

7:21Ben Meiselas:Also in 2014, Ghislaine Maxwell gave a speech at the United Nations to promote her company Terra Mar. hears when she spoke in front of the United Nations representing civil society while she was involved in a child sex trafficking ring. Here play this clip. First of all, Your Excellencies, Presidents, Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen, I just would like to thank you so much. It's such an honor to be here.

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9:50Ben Meiselas:she was certainly willing to talk with Todd Blanche Donald Trump's criminal defense lawyer turned number two at the Department of Justice when he said so during the time you were with Epstein did you ever see any sort of like Black Book at all? here play this clip during the time that you were with Mr. Epstein and even in the 2000s when you were around less frequently you never observed you never saw any sort of list or black book or a list of individuals who, you know, linked to certain masseuses or anything like that? Absolutely no. There is no list. What about Donald Trump? Was he ever inappropriate with anybody, Ghislaine?

10:39Ben Meiselas:This is what she said to Todd Blanche when he questioned her as kind of as part of Donald Trump's cover-up play this clip. I don't recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance. I never saw the president in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. The president was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects. Now, I want to explain to you why Ghislaine Maxwell also is saying that she wants to make a blanket assertion of the Fifth Amendment and not have to assert the Fifth Amendment to each question that she gets asked because she doesn't want to have to respond to questions like this.

11:31Ben Meiselas:Are you aware of Donald Trump having sex with any underage girls? She doesn't want to be on camera and Donald Trump doesn't want her on camera saying, based on the advice of counsel, I hereby invoke my Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Are you aware, Ms. Maxwell, of Donald Trump being involved in the child sex trafficking ring run by Jeffrey Epstein and yourself? I can't answer that question on the advice of counsel. I must invoke my Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Remember when Epstein was asked questions in his depositions before he was arrested again in 2019 and he mysteriously died thereafter?

12:11Ben Meiselas:Remember how he answered questions like that? Here, play this clip. Remember what Donald Trump said about people who invoke the Fifth Amendment? Let's play this clip. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?

12:33Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today, I'm going to have to assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right, sir. The mob takes the 5th. If you're innocent, why are you taking the 5th Amendment?

12:45Ben Meiselas:And here's what Trump's biographer and who's someone potentially going to be the biographer of Jeffrey Epstein. Here's what Michael Wolff had to say about Ghislaine. Let's play this clip right here. Now, this is a key issue right now in the way the White House is looking at the Epstein scandal. The fear is that Ghislaine Maxwell can tie Donald Trump to the details of what Trump and Epstein called the Pussy Committee. The Pussy Committee consisted of Trump and Epstein in their efforts to get girls for Prince Andrew. So here's what I think Democrats should demand. I think Democrats should demand that they be able to ask her those questions.

13:54Ben Meiselas:I don't think that she should be like the issue with her invoking the Fifth Amendment is would you give her immunity, congressional immunity, you know, which I just I don't know how it's a valid. I would challenge and litigate her claim of asserting the Fifth Amendment when she's already been incriminated. And I would say she's waived it when she spoke with Todd Blanch to begin with. But if I was the Democrats, here's what I would do. We know she lies about everything, right? You saw the earlier deposition clips of her, right? She's not going to tell the truth on any topic at all. So here's what I would do, though.

14:32Ben Meiselas:If I were the Democrats, I would insist in the House Oversight Committee. We still want to ask her questions. Ask the questions. Did you see Donald Trump with underage girls? Did you see Donald Trump have sex with underage girls? Did you see Donald Trump engage in sex trafficking? Did you see Donald Trump brag about this? Did you see Donald Trump do that? Do you believe Donald Trump had Jeffrey Epstein killed? Ask the question. and then have her say, under the advice of counsel I plead the fifth, then take that tape and show it to the public. That's exactly what, and that's what James Comer, who runs the House Oversight Committee, wants to avoid as well.

15:06Ben Meiselas:He doesn't want that captured on video that moment. So they're going to try to avoid that, the Republicans, because they don't want her on tape invoking the fifth when a Democrat asks her that question about Trump engaging in potential criminal activity. Democrats should insist that they be able who is she to set the rules a convicted child sex trap who is she to dictate the rules that she just gets to read a blanket statement that says at the outset I'm here gonna by telling you I will not answer questions and I will just invoke the fifth say no say sit there shut up you're a convicted child sex trafficker we're gonna ask you questions and if you want to invoke your fifth invoke your fifth but shut up the hell do you think you are shut up As I hit my mic.

15:52Ben Meiselas:That's what I would say. Answer the questions, convicted child sex trafficker. And if you want to invoke the FIP, then we'll publish the video in public. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. Thanks for watching. Thanks for watching. Be sure to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts for new updates every single day.