In short
The episode discusses a Turning Point USA event in Phoenix that the host says “blew up” due to internal GOP conflict and extreme rhetoric.
Key claims
Republican leaders were in “complete disarray”; speakers attacked each other; and the event featured threats, white-nationalist messaging, and political violence glorification (including a Charlie Kirk “tent” recreation).
Notable examples
Erica Kirk’s “grift”/“gift” slip; Nicki Minaj calling J.D. Vance an “assassin” and threatening Gavin Newsom (“cleaning up the scum”); J.D. Vance saying “you don’t have to apologize for being white anymore” and calling the U.S. a “Christian nation”; Don Jr. calling the GOP “dead” and attacking “rhinos”; Mike Johnson warning of 2026 impeachment chaos; Anna Paulina Luna proposing a Charlie Kirk statue in the Capitol. Guests mentioned: Mira Patassin (author/activist; GoFundMe user), plus political figures and celebrities at the event (Charlie Kirk’s widow Erica Kirk, Nicki Minaj, J.D. Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy, Donald Trump via speakerphone/Don Jr., Don Jr., Mike Johnson, Anna Paulina Luna, Steve Bannon, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChaos at the GOP Event
3:19 to 5:01
A look at the disarray among Republican leaders at a recent event.
“This Republican event over the weekend, the Turning Point USA event in Phoenix, following the passing of Charlie Kirk, this was a complete disaster.”
Highlights of Republican Speakers
5:01 to 10:51
Reactions and statements from various GOP speakers at the event.
“And the special guest from Sunday was Nicki Minaj, who referred to J.D.”
Infighting Among Conservative Influencers
10:51 to 13:20
Details on the conflicts and criticisms between conservative figures.
“And yes, Andy Biggs, we're going to work on that statue in the Capitol.”
Tucker Carlson's Warning to the MAGA Movement
14:10 to 15:00
Tucker Carlson cautions the MAGA movement about charlatans undermining conservatism.
“These people are frauds, they are grifters, and they do not deserve your time.”
Candace Owens' Indignant Response
15:01 to 15:30
Candace Owens fiercely rebuts Ben Shapiro, showcasing rising tensions among conservatives.
“I'm here to let you know that I'm with it.”
Ben Shapiro's Claims and Conspiracies
15:31 to 16:40
Ben Shapiro discusses conspiracy theories surrounding Epstein and their implications.
“They're ceding distrust in the world around you, and they are enervating you in the process.”
J.D. Vance's Controversial Statements
16:41 to 17:45
J.D. Vance makes polarizing comments on American identity and Christianity.
“So, for example, if Tucker wants answers to his questions about, say, Jeffrey Epstein, he could call the vice president of the United States.”
Racist Remarks and Reactions
17:46 to 18:48
J.D. Vance's derogatory comments about Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett ignite criticism.
“More than any time I can recount, people are talking about American identity and figuring out what it is that unites us.”
Nicki Minaj's Contradictory Message
18:49 to 19:56
Nicki Minaj questions the narrative around beauty standards in a controversial statement.
“Then JD Vance's rally call to the audience was, do we all want faster deportations?”
Donald Trump Speaks from Afar
19:57 to 20:59
Donald Trump addresses the audience via speakerphone, expressing support for his son.
“Why would we now need to make other people downplay their beauty so that we can feel?”
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Homeland Security's Involvement at Events
21:00 to 22:33
Discussion about the presence of Homeland Security at controversial political events.
“And then Nicki Minaj finished her whatever you even want to call this by saying my message to young men is don't be a new scum.”
Transcript
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3:18Ben Meiselas:The Republican leaders are in complete disarray. This Republican event over the weekend, the Turning Point USA event in Phoenix, following the passing of Charlie Kirk, this was a complete disaster. You had MAGA Republicans who were out there screaming at one another, saying that the Republican Party is actually dead. This influencer was attacking that influencer. You had Nicki Minaj as a surprise guest, and she referred to J.D. Vance as an assassin and said that, oh, we've got an assassin J.D. Vance here. And then everybody was like, you're at a Charlie Kirk event and you're calling J.D. Vance an assassin.
4:01Ben Meiselas:Then you had Erica Kirk had this Freudian slip where she referred to somebody as, oh, your grift is just as big as Charlie's grift. I mean, gift. I mean, grit. And it got even worse from there. You had J.D. Vance give a speech and he's like, we no longer apologize for being white. It's white people. Really? I mean, what in the world? Can I just show you what went down here? So, you know, here you had at the very beginning, You had Erica Kirk talk about this Freudian slip where she's like, yep, and just like Charlie, you've got all of this grift. Here, play this clip. Despite the devastating loss of Charlie Kirk, my incredible husband at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same grift.
4:49Excuse me, gift. Grit. It has been a long day. Trust me, you're not a grifter, honey. It's all good.
5:02Ben Meiselas:And the special guest from Sunday was Nicki Minaj, who referred to J.D. Vance as an assassin while speaking to Erica Kirk. Here, play this clip. And you have amazing role models like the assassin J.D. Vance, our vice president. And when I say that.
5:29I trust me there's nothing new under the sun that I have not heard so you're fine
5:38yes we did
5:46you have to laugh about it truly I have been called every single thing and you know what God is so good, you let it roll right off your back. And this is what's so beautiful about this moment, because if the internet wants to clip it, who cares? I love this woman. She's an amazing woman. She has a soul and a heart for the Lord.
6:07Ben Meiselas:And then Nicki Minaj continues by threatening the life of California Governor Gavin Newsom. She's at an event with Charlie Kirk's widow. and she's there and they're all applauding and Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk, does nothing here. She doesn't call it out. Threatening, this sounds like threatening the life of California Governor Gavin Newsom. I'll let you listen to it for yourself here. Play this clip. To Mr. Newsom. Dear Newsom.
6:44We don't have a problem cleaning up the scum if we have to. please tread lightly. That's what I would say to Gavi Poo.
6:57Ben Meiselas:Then you have J.D. Vance saying that because of us, we don't have to apologize for being white anymore. I just wonder what his wife Usha and Usha's family thinks about all of this. And by the way, Vivek Ramaswamy was speaking at this event too, you know, and he was like trying to be like, and we're an inclusive party now. And then you've got J.D. Vance basically up there doing this white supremacist stuff. Here's what J.D. Vance says. Play this clip.
7:30In the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore.
7:40Ben Meiselas:Then you have Don Jr. spending his time on the speech, just attacking the Republican Party. He says the Republican Party is dead. The Republican Party doesn't exist anymore. We're now the MAGA Party. Here, play this clip. The rhinos. You see the manufactured attacks on J.D., myself, my father, anyone who understands that this isn't the Republican Party anymore. It's the America First Party. It's the Make America Great Again Party. And we are not going back. And then more from Don Jr. over here saying that, you know, diversity is not our strength. And he's like, and again, he's like the real enemies right now also are the Republicans, the GOP.
8:32Ben Meiselas:They're the ones who have turned Minnesota into little Somalia. And like, everything is like racist and hateful from these. All these people do is just seethe with hate. Here, play this clip. It falls on so many of the weak Republicans who just capitulated to the D.C. swamp. And we're going to put an end to that, too.
8:58Some of the lauded voices, even in the Republican Party, demanded we bring in tens of thousands of unvetted Afghan refugees. For years, they turned Minnesota into little Somalia. How's that working out for anyone?
9:14Ben Meiselas:Then you have MAGA Mike Johnson. His speech was like, if we don't win, if we don't win in these midterms, Trump's going to get impeached. This is what MAGA Mike had to say, play this clip. Everything has been said here. Everything is on the line in the midterms of 2026. And we have much more to do. But if we lose the House majority, the radical left, as you've already heard, is going to impeach President Trump. They're going to create absolute chaos. us. We cannot let that happen. And then you had this like weird idolizing of Charlie Kirk, like MAGA Republican Congresswoman, Anna Paulina Luna said, you know, when we got to really focus on when we get back to Congress and we get back into town, we're going to build a statue of Charlie Kirk in the U.S.
10:01Ben Meiselas:Capitol. You know, can we just get health care? Can you just make things more affordable? Can you give people affordable health care and not rip away their Affordable Care Act subsidies? Can you make housing more affordable? Can you make sure that people can get paid with dignity and afford homes and afford their rent? Charlie Kirk statues? Here, play this clip. More importantly, I want to record this and send it to him. So I need you guys to get a little vocal. Do you think the Speaker of the House should put a statue of Charlie Kirk at the Capitol because we've been having issues getting it done.
10:34Ben Meiselas:Then Maggie Mike runs within and Maggie Mike's like, and we're going to do the Charlie Kirk statue at the Capitol. We're no longer in a battle, no longer in a contrast just between Republicans and Democrats. We're in a contrast between two completely different diametrically opposed worldviews. Charlie stood for that. I knew him a long time. And yes, Andy Biggs, we're going to work on that statue in the Capitol. Okay. Charlie Kirk statue. Look, as I've said before, we've condemned political violence. What happened to Charlie Kirk was absolutely horrific. The shooter, by the way, as you know, who's on trial, comes from a Republican MAGA family.
11:13Ben Meiselas:This wasn't like a leftist liberal person at all. It's like these people come from MAGA families. They're gun-toting, gun, you know, God-fearing, you know, they're like gun people who talk about, you know, their love of Mormon, Mormons with guns, whatever it was over there. It was like a religious family, you know, and this is not at all what Mormonism teaches. I want to be very clear about just a religious family that was whatever. And this is what, and this is how they attack, you know, leftist liberals, ridiculous. By the way, they then have a tent area at this event that recreates where Charlie Kirk was assassinated here, play this clue.
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13:20Ben Meiselas:Then you had, you know, different people attacking each other. So you had Steve Bannon saying that Ben Shapiro is a cancer. Play this clip. Shapiro is like a cancer and that cancer spreads.
13:38It's a cancer and it metastasizes. he tried to take over Breitbart and I ran him out of there he tried to take over David Horowitz's who was his mentor don't ask me ask the guys associated with David Horowitz what he did there he tried to take that over and mark my word he will make a move on turning point because he's always been envious of Charlie Kirk you had Ben Shapiro attacking Candace Owens and Steve Bannon
14:09Ben Meiselas:and Tucker Carlson and saying that they spread conspiracies and that they're charlatans and that the MAGA movement shouldn't trust them. Play this clip. The conservative movement is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the name of principle, but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty, who offer nothing but bile and despair, who seek to undermine fundamental principles of conservatism by championing enervation and grievance. These people are frauds, they are grifters, and they do not deserve your time. And they are something worse than that. A danger to the only movement capable of stopping the left from wrecking the country wholesale.
14:49Ben Meiselas:Then you have Candace Owens responding right after Ben Shapiro's speech. And she says, truly Ben Shapiro, I don't even want to read what she says. Just I'll let you listen to what she says. Play this clip. I'm here to let you know that I'm with it. I am done with it. This one is so fully off of the mother effing plantation. Truly Ben Shapiro, fuck you and the midget horse that you rode in on. And then Ben Shapiro says that anybody who's out there and denies what the regime is saying about the Epstein files, if you're denying what cash, but if you're, if you believe that cash Patel is lying and Dan Bagino was lying and Trump and Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche, and there's something wrong with you.
15:34Ben Meiselas:What are you saying, Shapiro? Here, play this clip. They're ceding distrust in the world around you, and they are enervating you in the process. So, for example, if many speakers, including Tucker Carlson and others, get on stage here at TPUSA and claim, without proper evidence, that Jeffrey Epstein was running a Mossad rape ring being covered up by the Trump administration, they are not actually uncovering a conspiracy or effectuating a solution. They are claiming a special provenance to information they won't let you see, which builds their power and leaves you with none. They are also implicating in their speculation actual human beings, good human beings like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi and yes, the President of the United States, even if they're too cowardly to say President Trump's name.
16:20And that means you won't trust those good people in the future. You haven't gotten smarter, you've just been manipulated. it. When forced to demonstrate their evidence, these same people will often refuse to provide it. They'll claim ignorance. They'll pretend they're outside the system and they don't have access to actual information. You know, they're just asking questions. But many of these same people have direct pipelines to informational sources. So, for example, if Tucker wants answers to his questions about, say, Jeffrey Epstein, he could call the vice president of the United States. He's quite close with him, but he won't because that might undermine the empty speculation.
16:55Ben Meiselas:More from J.D. Vance, where J.D. Vance says that the only thing that our nation is truly anchored in is being a Christian nation. That's the only thing our nation is anchored in, J.D. Vance. First off, who are you, J.D. Vance? You've had three different names. J.D. Vance is your third identity. You grew up and said you were gay. and then you said that actually you got conversion therapy or you're not gay anymore or that you thought you were gay and it was mistaken. And then you said that you were this guy from Appalachia and you were representing just the hard workers of Appalachia and you were an anti-Trumper and you hated Trump.
17:35Ben Meiselas:You said Trump's like Hitler. You compared him to that. And then you were a pro-Trumper. Then you've changed your name and identity along the way. You said you were gay. Now you're anti-gay. You said you were for diversity. Now you hate diversity. Just such a phony. Here, play this clip. More than any time I can recount, people are talking about American identity and figuring out what it is that unites us. But I want to say something here. The only thing that is truly served as an anchor of the United States of America is that we have been. And by the grace of God, we always will be a Christian nation.
18:14Ben Meiselas:Then J.D. Vance refers to Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett as her street having a, quote, street girl persona, just like obvious heinous racism. Street girl persona? What the hell are you talking about? These are such vile people here play this clip.
18:35And Jasmine Crockett. Oh, Jasmine Crockett.
18:42The record speaks for itself. She wants to be a senator, though her street girl persona is about as real as her nails.
19:01Ben Meiselas:Then JD Vance's rally call to the audience was, do we all want faster deportations? Anyway, here, play this clip. Do you want faster deportations? So go to ice.gov slash join because we're building an army of patriots and we need good people who care about the country to help us secure the border and do it even faster.
19:32Ben Meiselas:More from Nicki Minaj here. And Nicki Minaj is like, you know, one of the important things that we should realize as black women is why are we making white women with blonde hair and blue eyes feel bad? Why? Why? Why should we make the blonde hair, blue eyes, ladies feel bad if we love ourselves. What are you even talking? I don't even understand. What do you mean? Who's making blonde hair, blue eyes, people feel bad? What are you talking about? Play this clip. Why would we now need to make other people downplay their beauty so that we can feel? No, that's not how it works. I don't need someone with blonde hair and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know my beauty.
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20:19Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump couldn't be bothered to even be at this event. So Don Jr. had him like on speakerphone. And this is what an adult Donald Trump sounded like. Play this clip. Oh, I would, I want to be with you, but I'll be with you soon. And I just want to say that nobody did more for me than Charlie. And there's nobody better than Erica and you are the greatest people on earth. We won in a landslide and we're going to continue to do it. And I just want to thank everybody you got out there and they voted and they trust doorbells. And I just want to thank you all. And I hope my son's doing a good job representing me.
20:58Otherwise, I have to say you're fired.
21:02Ben Meiselas:And then Nicki Minaj finished her whatever you even want to call this by saying my message to young men is don't be a new scum. Don't be a new scum. Be like the dashing, which professed her love for Donald Trump. Here, play this clip. People with heart and soul. And they make me proud of them. Our vice president, he makes me, well, I love both of them. But they're both powerful men, smart strong all of that just i want to mention as well that at this turning point event you had the department of homeland security they were advertising uh job recruitment there so you have all of that kind of radicalization that you saw right and then as they get the people to get all fired up and say this is a white nation and all these things then the department of homeland securities there and they go DHS is at turning point in USA's Amfest.
22:09Ben Meiselas:We're looking for American patriots willing to defend the homeland and honor the vision of America. Charlie Kirk fought for swing by our tables to learn more than a Seth Kotler says nothing to see here. Just a right wing hyper nationalist government going to their party's youth event sponsored by a group with a martyred leader. They've pledged to avenge recruiting people to join their masked police force devoted to removing Ostlanders from the homeland. There you have it. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million.
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