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MeidasTouch Podcast Episode Summary: "Governor Wes Moore Responds to Trump’s Authoritarian Actions"
Overview In this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas discuss the ongoing authoritarian actions of Donald Trump and feature an interview with Maryland Governor Wes Moore. The episode highlights the impact of ICE operations across the United States and emphasizes the resilience of Democratic leaders in fighting back against Trump's regime.
Key Concepts and Discussions
Trump’s Authoritarian Tactics
- Unleashing Havoc:
- Ben Meiselas describes Trump's actions as creating chaos across the U.S., referencing the use of ICE agents who engage in aggressive tactics against citizens and migrants.
- Specific incidents of ICE detaining individuals without justification are discussed, illustrating the emotional and psychological toll on families.
- Racial Profiling and Abuse:
- The episode outlines stories of individuals, including a mother and her son, who were unjustly detained by ICE, highlighting systemic issues within immigration enforcement.
- A disturbing account of a special needs student being apprehended at school emphasizes the fear ICE instills in communities.
Fight Back Against Authoritarianism
- Democratic Resistance:
- The podcast emphasizes the role of Democratic governors and mayors in standing up to Trump's authoritarianism. Governor Wes Moore exemplifies this resistance in Maryland.
- Moore discusses the importance of data-driven policies over Trump's fear-driven rhetoric, advocating for humane immigration reform while ensuring public safety.
- Governor Wes Moore's Insights:
- Moore articulates his stance against the federalization of police and military presence in cities, asserting that these tactics are political distractions rather than solutions to crime.
- He emphasizes that Maryland has seen significant drops in violent crime through community-focused strategies rather than militarization.
Personal Stories Highlighting ICE Actions
- Detained Individuals:
- The podcast shares accounts of individuals who faced unjust treatment by ICE, including:
- A mother detained while awaiting travel documents, causing distress for her and her children.
- A Latino Trump voter who felt betrayed by the policies he once supported and is now advocating for immigrant rights through a lawsuit against ICE.
- Community Impact:
- Moore highlights the broader implications of ICE's actions on families and communities, stressing the need for policies that reflect the values of justice and compassion.
The Economic Impact of Trump’s Policies
- Economic Struggles:
- The episode addresses the negative effects of Trump’s economic policies, including job losses and rising costs for essential goods.
- Governor Moore outlines how Maryland's economy has suffered due to federal policies but also notes the state's resilience and innovative approaches to support its residents.
Optimism and Resilience
- Building Hope:
- The conversation concludes on a hopeful note, with Moore encouraging unity and resilience among Marylanders in the face of adversity.
- He underscores the importance of community, collaboration, and a shared commitment to democratic values.
Key Takeaways
- Resistance Against Authoritarianism: The episode strongly conveys the importance of fighting back against authoritarian actions and maintaining a commitment to democratic principles.
- Human Stories Matter: Individual narratives highlight the real-world consequences of policy decisions, emphasizing the need for humane treatment and respect for rights.
- Community Focus: Effective governance requires prioritizing community engagement and data-driven policies over fear tactics and militarization.
- Hope and Resilience: Despite challenges, there is a spirit of resilience among communities actively fighting for justice and democratic values.
Conclusion This episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast serves as a rallying cry for supporters of democracy, urging them to remain informed and engaged in the fight against authoritarianism while highlighting the importance of compassionate governance. The integration of humor and brotherly banter makes complex political discussions accessible and engaging for listeners.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Total havoc continues to be unleashed by Donald Trump across the United States. But people are fighting back Donald Trump's Gestapo in the streets, disappearing human beings, migrants and citizens alike. They are racially profiling and engaging in atrocious behavior, putting people into concentration camps. This is among the most important videos we do here on the Midas Touch Network, where we highlight some of these stories, like how ICE forcibly detained a mother and her six-year-old son and confined them in isolated and abusive conditions. Agents confiscated her phone, denied her access to a lawyer, and says, you better be careful who you speak to.
0:43Listen to us. And look, she legally worked as a state employee in Washington with a combo visa. Listen to this story. It is heartbreaking. Here, play this clip. Sarah Shaw and her six-year-old son in late July after she dropped off two of her kids at the Vancouver airport. I thought we had crossed every T and dotted every I. Her close family friend Victoria interviewed with us while out of state. She's been Sarah's main point of contact while detained. Sarah was awaiting on some travel documents to get approved. However, when her visa and her children's visas got approved, she felt comfortable being the one to take them over to Canada.
1:24Sarah was reauthorized to work in the U.S., but permission to travel was still pending. Her attorney calls it a simple administrative error. Anyone could have made it. I told her that, you know, yes, that's true. You don't have a travel document, but you've only been gone about a day. explain what happened to the immigration officials. Sarah's lawyer explains she's on a combo card. That's a temporary status that allows her to work while she applies for permanent residency. Sarah was originally sponsored by her husband, but she had to leave because of domestic violence. That allowed her to reapply for legal status on her own.
1:57Even if she didn't have her travel document, he did. So the fact that ICE has insisted on detaining the six-year-old when there was absolutely no reason for him to be detained is unconscionable. Now Sarah and her son Isaac are being held at an ICE detention center in South Texas. It's one of two ICE facilities in the U.S. that can hold families. Her friend says Isaac, who has sensory issues, is struggling to adapt. You never think it's going to happen to you. I think the main thing she has expressed this whole time is just absolute shock and just devastation because she really did feel like she had done everything that was required of her.
2:34As for Sarah Sean's two other kids, they were flying to New Zealand to visit their grandparents. The plan for them is to return next month and be in the care of their family friend, Victoria. In the newsroom, I'm Christian Balderas, King 5 News. Next, I want to share this with you, how ICE arrested a high school student at drop-off for orientations with guns drawn and live ammunition. A 15-year-old boy with special needs was finally released after agents admitted they had the wrong guy. Agents left live bullets on the ground and told school, keep them, use them for target practice. This is what the ICE Gestapo is doing.
3:15Here, play this clip. Agents raid Arlita High School this morning, taking a 15-year-old boy with special needs into custody at gunpoint only to realize it was a mistake. The raid has prompted officials with the LA Unified School District to announce new measures to ensure students can travel to and from campus safely. Carlos Acedo is live in Arlita with the latest on the raid and reaction from parents and other students. Carlos? Michael Sherry, good evening. This immigration enforcement operation happened on the sidewalk right outside the high school. Students were here for orientation when they see a handful of Border Patrol agents.
3:51The armed agents even dropped bullets here on the ground. And tonight, as you can imagine, parents and school district officials are calling the actions unacceptable and careless. This is video of Border Patrol agents surrounding a vehicle outside Arlita High School Monday morning. Agents are seen detaining a 15-year-old student with disabilities as his grandma was inside the car while a relative was registering for classes at the school. The teen who goes to nearby San Fernando High was later released on the grounds of mistaken identity. I was very upset because our kids shouldn't have to be going through this and being scared of coming to school, you know, or their parents dropping them off.
4:31Soon after, parents like Yvonne received this voice message from the principal informing them of the incident. We are aware of reports of immigration enforcement activity in the area. Many parents we spoke with call the presence of federal agents near public school campuses shameful. The government, you know, our administration had stated that they were going to go after criminals. At a school, what criminals are you going to find kids trying to enroll? That is disturbing. It is heartbreaking. It is reprehensible. LAUSD Superintendent Alberto Carvalho addressed the matter during a back-to-school press conference with other school and city leaders.
5:08This young man was placed in handcuffs, presumably based on mistaken identity. Ahead of the start of the school year, the district has been in touch with 10 ,000 families potentially impacted by immigration enforcement efforts. They've rerouted bus stops, deployed a thousand central office staff to assist in school zones, and have virtual options available for those too scared to leave their homes. And we are gathered here today to talk about protecting our children from the federal government. That is a profound moment. While the district promises there are safety measures in place, some parents fear that their children will be a target simply because of the color of their skin, regardless of immigration status.
5:57He fits that category, you know, where he is like a little bit on the darker side and I feel like that's who they're attacking.
6:05Now, we reached out to the Department of Homeland Security multiple times regarding this case of mistaken identity. We never heard back. And then there's this story here in Los Angeles. ICE detained a Trump voter. Now he is suing. He says that he was brainwashed and manipulated by Trump into voting for him. He feels guilty and shame about his vote after he was arrested in June. Now he has joined a lawsuit to stop racial profiling by ICE agents. Listen to his story here. Play this clip. This is where Brian Gavidia encountered those federal agents nearly two months to the day. The U.S. citizen says he believes he was targeted because he is Latino.
6:47And as a voter who voted for Trump, he says he's now disillusioned by the president's policies. This is something that means so much to me. I literally have tattoo in my back. We the People has been on 29-year-old Brian Gavidia's back for six years, but it wasn't until this moment that he says made him really understand what it meant. Every time I see it on a video, it's like a bad memory in my brain, 100%. Agents were conducting an operation outside his shop on June 12th. I just wanted to go look. Honestly, they don't know it was a crime to go look. The video shows one agent pushing Brian up against the wall and demanding he prove his citizenship.
7:24I truly believe I was a target because of my race. I believe I was racially profiled. I believe I was attacked because I was walking while brown. He says agents held him, took his phone and real ID that proved he was a citizen and eventually released him, giving back his phone but never his ID. Bryan said he was shaken but also empowered. Where's the freedom? Where's the justice? We live in America. We should be free. We should have justice. This is why I'm fighting today. This is why I'm protecting the Constitution. He now carries a mini constitution in his pocket and is one of seven plaintiffs in the ACLU lawsuit that resulted in a district court's order preventing federal agents from conducting sweeps based on race, accents or where someone works in seven Southern California counties.
8:06The Trump administration recently asked the Supreme Court to lift that stay. Brian says he voted for Trump. Because I believe he ran on lies. He ran on lies. He lied to many of us. President Trump said that he was going to do this. He said mass deportations. He said this is part of his plan. Yeah, he said criminals. He said, yeah, a bunch of countries opened their jails and released some. Yeah, when you lie to us like that, when you say your countries, other countries are releasing their jails and letting them into the population, of course you're going to scare the people. Of course you're going to brainwash people.
8:38Like, come on, man. Be real. Tell the truth. If you're going to say something, do exactly what you're going to say. Don't lie. Don't manipulate the people. Now Brian works to educate the people, handing out red cards that detail rights for immigrants and helping with Know Your Rights workshops. Part of his redemption, he says, believing now more than ever in those three words, we the people. We were all manipulated. We were all brainwashed. And now look at us. We are all suffering because of it. And I feel guilty 100 percent. now even though brian's very confident about that lawsuit he says his family is still very worried including his mother who he says uh is uh really concerned about him speaking out he says uh he must speak out right now so he can take a stand so other people won't have to put themselves in danger we're live in montebello i'm mccallan medina nbc 40s now here in this clip iced used a woman's kids and grandchild as bait to arrest her.
9:33Now her 13-year-old daughter is missing. She was detained in care of Massachusetts Department of Children and Family, but they say they've lost her. The latest tip said that she was seen 250 miles away in New Jersey. Play this clip.
10:34And so you see in those videos right there, Donald Trump trying to unleash hell, his dictatorial fantasies on cities and states across the country. And he's specifically targeting democratic states and democratic cities. And on the other hand, you have governors and mayors in these states It's pushing back, fighting back, trying to create the stability that people want, trying to make sure that Donald Trump's harm to the economy is mitigated, trying to stop the onslaught being caused by Donald Trump. Let's bring in Maryland Governor Westmore. Governor, it's great to see you again. I mean, Donald Trump has seemed to up his kind of fascist dictatorial fantasies, unleashing, again, more ICE agents on the street.
11:23I mean, they're putting ads out now. We're trying to recruit 18 year olds with minimal education and training and just saying, protect your culture. That's one of the messages that they have out there. And he seems to really have amped this up since the last time you and I've talked. And it also continues to show that, you know, he continues to build policies not on data, but on lies. You know, when when you put out a call saying they're going to do 3000 arrests, 3000 deportations every single day because they want to target gang members and they're going to target the most violent. There is not a single governor in this country who is worth assault, at least, or telling the truth, who would tell you that deporting 3 ,000 people a day is going after the most violent offenders.
12:11Every single one of us will stand in concert and stand in coordination to say we need to make sure that public safety is the number one priority, whether we have to make sure that we're getting violent criminals out of our communities and off of our streets. Every single one of us will say that. But there is no way that putting this artificial quota of 3000 people a day is who we are talking about. We were talking about going after gang members or violent criminals that this is going after many of the people who were just who were just mentioned before. And it's the reason why they're seeing how how even the enforcement policies of immigration, how they are framing it, are also deeply unpopular amongst the American people as a whole.
12:53That people want immigration reform. People want to make sure that we have a secure border. People want to make sure that we are removing violent criminals from our streets. People want to make sure there's a humane way and a humane pathway to citizenship. But what you were seeing from the Trump administration is not what the people want. And they continue to see data that shows that. Obviously, this week, Trump unleashing the National Guard in Washington, D.C., Donald Trump federalizing the Metropolitan Police Department in a bizarre press conference earlier today where there were randomly two women wearing evening dresses also talking about Sylvester Stallone.
13:34Donald Trump talked about. All he would have to do is just declare emergencies, say we're at an emergency. I'd extend the National Guard 30 days more. And he says, I'm bringing it to Baltimore, Maryland, and I'm bringing it to all these other cities. So what's your response to that? My response is if he really cared about public safety, he should look at what we're doing in the state of Maryland. Because for the past two and a half years, we've been able to make some of the fastest and most historic drops in violent crime anywhere in the United States of America, that the year before I became the governor, that Baltimore City had nearly a homicide a day.
14:10And now, two and a half years later, the homicide rate, the last time the homicide rate was this low in Baltimore City, I wasn't born yet. And you know how we do it? We did it by actually enforcing constitutional policing. We did it by making sure that we made historic investments in law enforcement, but also making historic investments in community groups and community violence intervention groups and working with Mayor Scott, working with our county executives and working with our state's attorney, that Maryland's one of the only states in the country that actually helps to fund the U.S. attorney out of balance sheet, that we actually follow data.
14:42And we follow data to make people safer and making sure that we're getting the encouraging results that we've seen thus far. And the thing that I would highlight to the White House is this. We were able to see historic drops in violent crime and never once did I activate the National Guard to do municipal policing. This is not about performance. This is performative. This is someone who has never worn the uniform in his life. In fact, the only uniform that they've gotten accustomed to is a Brooks Brothers suit, that they are now using the military as pawns in this process to feed into this military fetish because they think that that's somehow going to gain them political favor.
15:20But it is actually not going to address the issue of lowering violent crime within our communities. So what happens when he's preparing to do next, which is Baltimore, while you've made these impressive gains in stopping crimes? He's going to move on. I mean, it's pretty clear what the path is. I mean, he's targeting Baltimore, Chicago, Oakland, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles. There seems to be a theme there as well. Black mayors seems to be where he's going next. He doesn't mention the fact that red states and red cities have far higher violent crime rates than any of these. That doesn't mention that ever.
16:04That doesn't fit his narrative. So what happens when you wake up? He's not going to give you notice. He didn't give the mayor notice. He's going to do it. And so and so have you thought through that plan or what happens next? Oh, 100 percent. He's going to learn that in Maryland, we have a governor who knows what constitution works. And the way the Constitution works is that the Maryland National Guard reports to me. I'm the commander in chief of the Maryland National Guard. And he will learn that I'm also very clear about what the role and the limitations are of our units. he is very clear that I am someone, I don't come from a political background.
16:39I'm a soldier. That's my background. That I know what it's like to put on that uniform. And I know what it's like to actually have a respect for the men and women whose job it is to go and actually do that work in the first place. And I am very clear and I take a solemn responsibility to understand the when, the how, and the what I'm asking the members of the National Guard to do. And if it is not either mission aligned or mission critical, I will not authorize the usage of the Maryland National Guard to be able to use for missions that I do not deem to be useful, sensible or mission aligned or mission critical.
17:18So, you know, his shtick, he's got a routine now in doing this. He sends the letter that he doesn't do deals. He doesn't talk right the same way with tariffs. He thinks of sending a letter is a deal. but he does the same thing here. He sends a letter to the adjutant general and says, you now report to me. You do not report to the governor. I have, I mean, the statute literally says he has to coordinate through the governor for this and then delineates very specific types of emergencies, which he doesn't have the authority forever, but he creates a fake emergency. He sends the letter and he goes, you're mine now.
17:56And to that you go wrong. That guy is not who you report to. You report to me. I'm the commander in chief. Not that. Is that the showdown that kind of happens? Well, what I know is that I'm always going to protect the oath that I took. That, you know, I've taken I've taken two oaths in my life. One was when I promised to defend the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, when I took an oath when I joined the United States Army. And the other one was when I took an oath to the Constitution, to the Maryland Constitution, when I became the 63rd governor of our state and also the commander in chief of Maryland's National Guard.
18:36And I take those oaths very seriously. And I will not allow someone to come and violate those oaths or those laws. And also the thing I know is this, is that the members of the Maryland National Guard, they took an oath to. They took an oath to their commander in chief and they took an oath to our state's constitution. And I plan on taking up and I plan on protecting that oath that they took and also making sure that I'm going to make decisions that is actually going to be respectful for these remarkable citizen soldiers, these remarkable men and women who've raised their hands on our behalf and also for their family members to know that their safety is going to be protected and their orders will be lawful.
19:20Final topic, Governor, the economy. And you and I have, you know, we've been we've been doing an interview about once a month, once every month and a half. And we've been tracking the impact of Trump's disastrous trade war against the world. Donald Trump attacking jobs here, going after workers, going after education institutions, going after veterans. What are you seeing right now in the state of Maryland? And I know you've done everything you can to try to protect Maryland from his actions. But what we're seeing across the country now is Donald Trump's economic policies really hurting people, all of his promises on affordability, all lies.
20:03He may pretend that inflation doesn't exist. It's surging again and people are struggling. So how are you able to fight that and how are you able to discuss with your own, with the people of your state kind of what's what's happening? I mean, do they recognize what's happening now from Trump? Yeah, and it's one of the disgusting things that we're seeing about this utilization of National Guard members to patrol city streets is it's a distraction. It's a distraction about the fact that Donald Trump's economic policies have been utter failures to the people of this country. That is that it's his economic policies that have caused prices to rise because you're now watching tariffs that are increasing the prices on everything in our lives.
20:52It's his economic policies that have caused energy prices to continue to spike. It's his economic policies that have kicked people off of health care, that have taken away food assistance from children, that have hurt the most vulnerable so we could give millionaires and billionaires a tax cut. And so these are his economic policies. And I can tell you in the state of Maryland, we are seeing that firsthand and we're seeing it directly. These are not glancing blows. These are direct shots where where Maryland has now lost over 13000 federal workers who call the state of Maryland home. The largest number that we have seen anywhere in this country that just last month, for the month of June, Maryland lost over 3500 federal workers in one month.
21:36The largest month a month loss of federal workers that we have now seen in 30 years that Donald Trump fired because of his economic policies and his war on public servants. that we continue to see. And so the economic catastrophe that has been the Trump administration, it is real. It is having very direct human impacts on people's lives. And frankly, it's one of the reasons that this introduction of the National Guard has become so disturbing, because it's trying to mask the fact that we have an economic policy that is having huge and disparate impacts on so many people that call the state of Maryland home all throughout the state of Maryland, from Western Maryland to the Eastern Shore.
22:20Let's leave on a sense of optimism, though. I know you do still see room for hope as people are banding together, as people don't like this, and people want to see fighters right now in this moment. Can you speak to that before we go? I think it's one of the most inspiring things that we continue to see about our state is that our state is gritty, and our state is some fighters. And I think the people of our state have realized that with this administration and with this governor, like I said, I'm a soldier. That's my background. That's my training. And we don't lose fights. And so I think about the fact that even now, as we're watching this assault on our federal workers, that we've been able to announce programs that are helping to support our federal workers, get them into classrooms and hospitals quickly with our feds to you know with our feds to eds program that's now cut down about 10 percent of our teacher vacancies by actually having federal workers that are now just being moved into the classroom and now maryland has an unemployment rate of 3.3 percent which is about a full point lower than the national average despite losing more federal workers than anyone else in this country uh that we now have seen how the the in terms of crime numbers.
23:33Our violent crime in Maryland has absolutely plummeted. Maryland's helping to lead the country in drops in violent crime. You know, as I mentioned before, the homicide rates in Baltimore City are hitting historic lows, despite the fact that, you know, when I came on board as governor, they were hitting historic highs under a Republican governor, by the way, that we've been able to turn a structural deficit into a surplus, that we've been able to see population growth inside of the state of Maryland. Like things are moving, but that's because Marylanders are resilient. The same way that we rebounded after the tragic and deadly strike of the key bridge, the same way we were able to come and recover when we were watching after COVID-19, that the state of Maryland is resilient.
24:17And so I'm really proud that in this moment that people are realizing and showing what it means to be Maryland tough inside of this era. And I'm really proud of the fact that despite these direct shots from the federal government, the state of Maryland continues to rise. Governor Wes Moore, I appreciate you as always coming on. I appreciate you. Congrats again. Thank you, everybody. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. The truth is more important than ever. Check out our new Truth Over Lies collection at store.midastouch.com. All 100 % USA Union made.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump unleashing havoc across the United States with ICE agents in cities and towns across the United States and Meiselas focuses on Democrats fighting back and Meiselas interviews Maryland Governor Wes Moore who is standing up against the Trump regime.
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