Leader Jeffries Discusses Fighting Back against Trump Shutdown

29 Oct 2025 · 18 min · 5 chapters

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In short

Democratic House Leader Hakeem Jeffries argues the “Trump shutdown” is being prolonged by Republicans who refuse bipartisan talks, while harming health care and SNAP (42 million at risk). He also frames Democrats’ state-level efforts (notably Prop 50 in California) as a response to Trump/MAGA gerrymandering to rig the 2026 midterms.

Guest backgrounds

The episode features Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries (House Democratic leader). It also references other figures: Dan Crenshaw (mentioned as yelling during a private MAGA call), MAGA Mike (Mike Johnson), Tom Emmer, Steve Scalise, and Congresswoman McClain; Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren is cited for historical shutdown comparisons.

Key claims

Republicans won’t reopen government or extend Affordable Care Act tax credits; health premiums/co-pays/deductibles will “explode” before Nov 1 open enrollment; House Republicans have been on vacation for five weeks; SNAP is being “weaponized” as cruelty; Trump lies about inflation and uses troops as propaganda; Republicans won’t negotiate “my way or the highway” spending bills.

Notable examples

Photo/video claims of empty Republican House chamber vs full Democratic side; daily Johnson press conferences; examples of health cost increases ($10k–$20k+); Illinois redistricting discussions; Prop 50 “stop Trump from stealing the election.”

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Chapters

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Chaos Among MAGA Republicans

0:00 to 4:20

Discussion on the discontent and chaos among MAGA Republicans regarding their strategy.

“There was apparently chaos during a private call of MAGA Republican House members as a growing list of MAGA Republicans are completely pissed off that they are no longer being able to show up in the House.”

The Health Care Crisis

4:20 to 7:20

Leader Jeffries discusses the implications of the Republican strategy on health care and government shutdown.

“Because that crisis is crushing everyday Americans, tens of millions of people on the verge of experiencing dramatically increased health care premiums, co-pays, and deductibles.”

Bipartisan Talks and Shutdown Status

7:20 to 11:30

Leader Jeffries addresses the ongoing government shutdown and the refusal of Republicans to negotiate.

“But they want to weaponize hunger as part of their continued cruelty that they're visiting on everyday Americans.”

Fighting Back Against Gerrymandering

11:30 to 14:00

Leader Jeffries discusses his efforts in Illinois and other states to combat gerrymandering and support fair elections.

“Prop 50, very popular out here in California.”

Discussion on Trump Extremism

14:00 to 14:17

Learn about the impact of Trump's actions on American politics.

“congressional map to respond to the extremism that Donald Trump is now unleashing on the American people.”
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0:00Ben Meiselas:There was apparently chaos during a private call of MAGA Republican House members as a growing list of MAGA Republicans are completely pissed off that they are no longer being able to show up in the House. They don't like MAGA Mike's strategy. Their constituents are getting incredibly angry at them, and they think that MAGA Mike's strategy has been awful. We heard Dan Crenshaw was yelling at people, why are you telling us not to show back up in D.C.? This seems to be a terrible strategy. Meanwhile, you had MAGA Mike this morning holding one of these disastrous press conferences where he brought in more MAGA Republican Congress members who were pretending, I guess, that they're doing work when the American people know that the MAGA Republicans are taking vacations.

0:47Ben Meiselas:You've got Tom Emmer right here saying, why are Democrats wasting their time talking about the ballroom? Why are they doing that? Here, play this clip. Instead of complaining about a new White House ballroom, how about you try doing your actual job and reopen the government for the people you were elected to serve? Excuse me, Mr. Emmer, let me show you this photo right here. The Republican side of the House chamber has nobody there. The Democratic side has everybody there. Democrats are working to make sure that Americans don't lose their health care coverage while MAGA Republicans not only want to take away people's health care coverage, but take away their supplemental nutrition assistance program from 42 million Americans.

1:31Ben Meiselas:Bring in Steve Scalise, who as the MAGA Republicans are wrecking our health care system, quite literally ripping health care away. He thinks it's wise this morning to blame Democrats for wrecking the health care system. Seriously, the American people aren't buying it, but play this clip. And they want to talk about health care. Give me a break. Look at what they've done. They've wrecked the healthcare system. They fought to raise premiums on families. What are you talking about? You literally refuse to extend the subsidies that keep the prices low. So no one is buying this, Steve Scalise. Then you have Congresswoman McClain.

2:11Ben Meiselas:I think she just gave it away here where she says, don't let the facts get in front of a good story. Here, play this clip. While Democrats posture in front of the cameras, Republicans are actually out in their districts working. Just take a look at the video that we've been playing all morning, right? Don't let the facts get in the way of the good story. Republicans, like the colleagues you see behind me, have been in their district working for the American people who are suffering. When was the last time Republicans held town halls? Because I recall seeing Democrats holding town halls across the country.

2:46Ben Meiselas:Well, maybe there are two or three MAGA Republicans who have held town halls and they've been booed and mostly kind of walked off the stage. Not only are Democrats working right now in the House and in the Senate and trying to resolve this, trying to protect Americans' health care, but you have Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries. He's been traveling. He's been very busy. He was in Illinois the other day talking about Illinois redistricting in response to Donald Trump's efforts to rig the midterms. And we're seeing Democrats potentially now step up in Virginia, in Maryland, in New York, as Democratic leader Jeffries is leading the way there in those states.

3:24Ben Meiselas:And we also see in Prop 50, from a lot of the reporting, MAGA Republicans appear to be surrendering there, although I don't want to get overconfident about what's happening with Prop 50. Let's bring in Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries. Leader Jeffries, it's good to see we have so much to talk about, but why don't we just start off with the status of the shutdown, the Trump shutdown? And kind of last you and I spoke, you were saying, this was a month ago or so, you were saying, look, I'm here. Let's talk. Let's do it in front of the cameras. Let's do it in public. Let's be transparent with the American people.

4:00Ben Meiselas:I stand ready. And then MAGA Mike responded to our interview and he was like, oh, that would be too theatrical and everybody knows maga mike and donald trump don't like theatrics so where does it stand now leader jeffries and state 28 of the trump republicans shutdown and republicans continue to refuse to sit down have a bipartisan discussion we've made clear we'll we'll have a conversation anytime anyplace with anyone either here at the capitol or back at the white house in order to reopen the government in order to enact a spending agreement that actually meets the needs of the American people and that decisively addresses the Republican health care crisis.

4:43Because that crisis is crushing everyday Americans, tens of millions of people on the verge of experiencing dramatically increased health care premiums, co-pays, and deductibles. There are people throughout congressional districts across the country who may experience health care costs that increase by$10 ,000,$15 ,000, or$20 ,000 or more per year, when more than 90 % of the people who receive Affordable Care Act tax credits make around$63 ,000. This is impossible for people to deal with this level of health care cost increases, but it's exactly what Republicans are visiting on the American people.

5:31Ben Meiselas:I mean, to be fair, since the last time you and I spoke, Donald Trump has done a few things. He's destroyed the East Wing of the White House. He's given$40 billion to Argentina. He traveled to Asia where he's doing these weird dance things that he's doing over there. But when it comes to SNAP, 42 million Americans about to lose their Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits, 20 million or potentially more Americans are either going to get priced out of health care or just lose their health care altogether. But, you know, Donald Trump gave a speech today where he said inflation is defeated.

6:08Ben Meiselas:He said mission accomplished. And he told our troops in Japan, he says, America's prospering and everybody's doing great, he says, back at home. To me, that just adds insult into injury, literally, when he does that. Absolutely. And using our troops as props for his propaganda is disgraceful. And he's lying to the American people, of course, when he says that inflation is over. No, inflation is getting worse in the United States of America. Costs didn't go down on day one, which is what Donald Trump promised. Costs are going up. Housing costs are going up. Grocery costs are going up. Child care costs are going up.

6:48Electricity bills are through the roof and health care premiums are about to skyrocket because Republicans refuse to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits. And to add insult to injury, House Republicans have now been on vacation for five consecutive weeks. They are nowhere to be found. They got out of town in September and they've refused to come back. And so Mike Johnson has resorted to holding these daily press conferences, which is like a Republican family reunion featuring crazy aunts and uncles talking gibberish to the American people. It's an embarrassment. These people are deeply unserious and they need to get back to work so we can get the government back open and deal with these issues of importance to the American people, including making sure that more than 40 million Americans don't go hungry because of Republican refusal to spend funds that they know they already have to provide nutritional benefits to the American people.

7:57But they want to weaponize hunger as part of their continued cruelty that they're visiting on everyday Americans.

8:04Ben Meiselas:You know, I've spoken with so many members that give that have given me a great historical perspective. I spoke recently with Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren, and she has been a member since 1995. And she's talked about other past shutdowns. And she goes, look, in other shutdowns, both parties would be there and you would have the leader from the party that's in the minority and the speaker there every day, trying to hammer something out. I'll give you this. I'll give you that. What can we do? And what everyone's telling me is what makes this very different is that, in this case, the Republicans just don't even want to talk to you.

8:43Ben Meiselas:From your perspective as the leader of the Democrats in the House, it's a weird thing. You just show up to work and then the other side doesn't want to speak to you and they cover their ears. How is the dynamic even play out? Because as you've said over and over, we want to talk to you. Let's have the conversation. Let's do it public. All right. You want to do it private? We really don't want to do it that way, but let's talk in some way about any of this. And they're like, nah, nah, we're not going to do that. Like, how do you even maneuver in that environment? Yeah, the Republican behavior just validates the point that we continue to make, which is that Donald Trump and the Republicans shut the government down and now refuse to reopen it.

9:27And it's totally unreasonable for them to think that Democrats are going to provide votes for a my way or the highway approach to a spending bill that hurts everyday Americans across the country, including their own constituents. And we've said for weeks now, both before Republicans shut down the government and over the last 28 days, that we will not support a partisan Republican spending bill that guts the health care of the American people in the midst of a crisis that Republicans have inflicted on hardworking American taxpayers. That's been our position from day one, and it's not going to change.

10:06And so I think what's going to happen over the next few days as we approach the open enrollment period on November 1st, at which point Americans all across the country will now realize that because of the Republican health care crisis, their health care premiums and co-pays and deductibles are going to explode in ways that the average everyday American cannot afford. People are going to be unable to go see a doctor. People are going to experience medical bankruptcy. And as a result, everyone is going to be adversely impacted other than the billionaire donors that Republicans continue to support as part of their determination to subsidize the lifestyles of the rich and shameless.

10:55The whole thing is out of control. This is why Republicans are reeling. The American people continue to hold them accountable for shutting the government down. And even Marjorie Taylor Greene understands that this issue around health care affordability that we have raised is a serious one and it needs to be decisively addressed.

11:14Ben Meiselas:And Leader Jeffries, let's talk about your trip to Illinois, both to Chicago and to Springfield, to speak with the congressional delegation there and legislators there, because Democrats need to fight fire with fire. We need to fight back against Trump trying to rig the midterms. Prop 50, very popular out here in California. And I think Democrats are saying, look, we like our independent commissions. We want fair. As we know, Democrats in Congress have said, let's eliminate partisan gerrymand. Let's get rid of it all. Let's get rid of Citizens United. Let's create the most fair system. But we live in a system where Trump and MAGA want to cheat and rig and steal.

11:58Ben Meiselas:So we need to respond. And so I think a lot of people said, OK, Leader Jeffries is out there in Illinois. He's speaking in New York. He's out there in Virginia. He was out in California. He's out across the country fighting back. Tell us about that, because I think it's big. And I think the Democrats in these states need to realize this stuff's existential right now. Like, literally, our Constitution is on the line. Our country's on the line. Absolutely. The American way of life is on the line. And we cannot allow Donald Trump to gerrymander congressional maps across the country, unanswered, as part of his effort to rig the midterm elections.

12:32Donald Trump shouldn't get to decide who's in the majority in the aftermath of the 2026 midterm elections. That decision should be made by the American people, which is why we are strongly supporting the effort in California. So thankful for the leadership of the California congressional delegation, Gavin Newsom, the legislative leaders, organizations on the ground, labor and the partnership that has been undertaken to make sure that people are voting yes on Prop 50 to stop Trump from stealing the election. And we have to run through the finish line there. But we know that beyond what Republicans have done in Texas, they've now gone in and stole a seat in Missouri.

13:14They stole a seat in North Carolina. It just convened a special session to take place next week in Indiana where they want to take a seat or two. They're scheming in Ohio. They may be scheming in Florida. This is an all hands on deck effort. And so I had very positive conversations with the legislative leaders in the Illinois General Assembly yesterday, both the speaker and the Illinois Senate president. They both acknowledged this is an existential moment. We cannot unilaterally disarm and all options have to be on the table. And so I look forward to those discussions that are taking place in Springfield over the next day or so.

13:53And I'm also appreciative that every single member of the Illinois congressional delegation on the Democratic side yesterday issued a statement saying to their legislative colleagues they support revisiting the congressional map to respond to the extremism that Donald Trump is now unleashing on the American people.

14:16Ben Meiselas:Leader Jeffries, thanks so much for your time as always. Thank you. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. Love this video? Support independent media and unlock exclusive content, ad-free videos, and custom emojis by becoming a paid member of our YouTube channel today. You can also gift memberships to others. Let's keep growing together.

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From the publisher

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Republican Congress Members feeling the heat from their home districts as MAGA Mike refuses to let them even show up in Washington DC in order to keep the Trump shutdown going and Meiselas speak with Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries about the steps he’s taking to fight back against the Trump shutdown and fight back against Trump’s effort to rig the midterm elections.

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