MAGA Mike Looks Terrified on Air over Fear of Losing Job

21 Oct 2025 · 24 min · 12 chapters

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In short

A commentator argues House Speaker Mike Johnson (described as “MAGA Mike”) is panicking during a government shutdown, while defending Trump’s positions on healthcare, pardons, Gaza/peace talks, protests, Venezuela, and press access.

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Key claims

Johnson’s “healthcare” messaging is contradicted by a prior budget bill that allegedly cut rural hospital funding; he allegedly lies about swearing in Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva; he supports Trump’s pardon of George Santos as “redemption”; he praises Trump’s Gaza “peace deal” and Nobel Peace Prize idea; he dismisses questions about Venezuela ship strikes and fentanyl; he claims Pete Hegseth is transparent despite journalist access issues.

Notable examples

Adelita Grijalva oath timing; George Santos pardon; Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize remarks; “no kings” rallies; Venezuela boat strikes; Fabrizio poll on ACA subsidies.

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MAGA Mike's Panic Over Government Shutdown

0:30 to 0:53

Discussion on MAGA Mike Johnson's panic relating to the government shutdown.

“Sometimes, just getting through the day feels like a lot.”

MAGA Mike's Panic Over Government Shutdown

2:01 to 3:00

Discussion on MAGA Mike Johnson's panic relating to the government shutdown.

“He has no clue what his talking points even are about during this government shutdown where he and Donald Trump and MAGA are the ones overwhelmingly being blamed by the American people for the Trump government shutdown.”

Health Care and MAGA Accountability

3:00 to 4:00

Exploring the impact of Trump's policies on healthcare and public perception.

“Trump posts AI videos of himself over the weekend, taking feces on protesters peacefully saying, we want healthcare and we want our freedoms back.”

MAGA Mike's Weekend Show Performance

4:00 to 5:00

Analyzing MAGA Mike's statements and contradictions during weekend shows.

“The Democrats did not vote for the clean funding bill.”

The Pelosi Precedent Debate

5:00 to 6:00

A breakdown of the argument regarding the swearing-in of a congresswoman.

“And he's asked, so why not just swear her in, Maga Mike?”

MAGA Mike's Support for George Santos

6:00 to 7:00

Discussion about MAGA Mike's stance on George Santos' pardon.

“When my dear friend from Louisiana, Julia Letlow, was elected to fill the seat of her deceased husband because of COVID, Nancy Pelosi took 25 days to swear her in.”

Trump's Nobel Peace Prize Nomination

7:00 to 12:49

Examination of MAGA Mike's remarks on nominating Trump for a Nobel Prize.

“There was an exception for two Floridians earlier in this Congress.”

Trump's Nobel Peace Prize Nomination

12:58 to 13:10

Examination of MAGA Mike's remarks on nominating Trump for a Nobel Prize.

“Thank you, Mosh, for sponsoring this episode.”

Public Protests and Healthcare Demands

13:10 to 14:00

Discussion on public protests focusing on healthcare and social issues.

“the largest day of peaceful protests in the history of the United States.”

Analysis of MAGA Mike's Stance on Venezuela

14:00 to 16:20

Explore the implications of MAGA Mike's comments on Venezuela and U.S. military actions.

“We congratulate them on a apparently violent free speech exercise.”
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MAGA Mike on Transparency and Defense

16:20 to 18:51

Discussion on MAGA Mike's view of the Secretary of Defense's transparency and media interactions.

“next Maga Mike is asked, um, do you have a sense for why Pete Hegseth is so afraid to interact with journalists?”

Critique of Peace Negotiations and Health Care

18:51 to 21:31

Critique of the political dynamics around peace negotiations and health care during the government shutdown.

“But anyway, Mike Johnson's like, that's a great question.”
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2:00Ben Meiselas:Oof, MAGA Mike Johnson is in a panic. Did you see him over the weekend? He has no clue what his talking points even are about during this government shutdown where he and Donald Trump and MAGA are the ones overwhelmingly being blamed by the American people for the Trump government shutdown. It's not a shocker that they're being blamed considering that Trump controls all the branches of government, and they're the ones who are ripping away health care from 20 million Americans while giving Argentina$40 billion. dollars. Donald Trump's own pollster Fabrizio. This guy says that 73 % of Americans are demanding that the Affordable Care Act subsidies be extended.

2:44Ben Meiselas:So in the face of all the data that the American people are repulsed at what the Trump regime is doing, taking away their healthcare while they build golden ballrooms and talk about UFC fights on the White House lawn, or as Donald Trump posts AI videos of himself over the weekend, taking feces on protesters peacefully saying, we want healthcare and we want our freedoms back. This is a kind of a catastrophic moment for MAGA Mike Johnson. So he goes on the weekend shows. Let me just show you what goes down. They're trying to say, ah, we're the party of healthcare. Y 'all remember that bill we did, the big, beautiful one, the big, beautiful bill.

3:27Ben Meiselas:We saved your healthcare. No one's buying that stupidity, Maga Mike. We all know that disastrous budget bill ripped away healthcare. Maga Mike's like, but look at all the money we gave to those rural hospitals. You took away$200 billion, you idiot, from the rural hospitals. And then you are bragging that you returned$50 billion. That means you stole$150 billion that were earmarked for rural hospitals. I mean, Look at it this way. If you stole$1 ,000 for somebody's bank account and then you returned $200, that means you stole$800. You don't brag. I gave you$200. People aren't stupid, Maga Mike.

4:08Ben Meiselas:Watch him panic on the weekend shows. Watch his behavior. This is Maga Mike here. Let's play this clip. The Democrats did not vote for the clean funding bill. They have chosen to shut the government down to fight for the health care and the other items you mentioned. But let me ask you, why, as this is going on, why is the House not in session? Well, first of all, we're fighting for health care as well, not just in word, but indeed, we put it in the one big, beautiful bill, the Working Families Tax Guide, real reforms to Medicaid to make it work better to preserve the program, because we had illegal aliens receiving benefits.

4:45We had young, able-bodied men who were not working. They don't have dependents. They were riding the wagon. We clean that up in our bill. In their counterproposal, what Chuck Schumer is arguing for is he wants to reverse those reforms, which would be a terrible policy decision.

4:59Ben Meiselas:And then Maga Mike is asked about Adelita Grijalva, the congresswoman-elect from Arizona's 7th congressional district. And he's asked, so why not just swear her in, Maga Mike? You know you could swear her in. You're preventing her. Why? Because she's the 218th signature on the Epstein discharge petition, Maga Mike. And then Maga Mike just makes up all these lies. He's like, I'm actually just following Nancy Pelosi's precedent. I'm following the Pelosi precedent. And then, you know, good for the questioner here, the host of the show's like, Nancy Pelosi didn't prevent somebody from being sworn in.

5:35Ben Meiselas:That's when the person picked their date. Oh, I'm just gonna cite some random things and lie to you. Watch Maga Mike lie. How do you know Maga Mike is lying? Because he's breathing. That's how you replay this clip. When are you going to swear in representative elect Adelita Grijalva? As soon as we get back to legislative session when Chuck Schumer allows us to turn the lights back on. Why haven't you done it already? Because this is the way the institution works. I'm following the Pelosi precedent, by the way. When my dear friend from Louisiana, Julia Letlow, was elected to fill the seat of her deceased husband because of COVID, Nancy Pelosi took 25 days to swear her in.

6:09By the way, also— Let me stop you. Are you saying that Nancy Pelosi refused to swear her in earlier? No, I'm saying that's my very point is this is my understanding is that was the date that actually the representative elect let low at the time requested. No, she had obviously hurt. OK, here's some more examples. OK, no, no. But wait a minute. No, no. The Pelosi precedent. But Pelosi didn't delay that. No, no. Let me give you more of the Pelosi precedent. OK. And what about the Johnson precedent? You swore in two Republicans the day after their election. I'm happy to answer. I'm happy to answer.

6:37Pelosi president, Pat Ryan, Joe Sempolinsky. they were elected during an August recess. So 21 days later, when the House returned to regular legislative session, they were administered the oath. That's what we're doing. We're not in session right now. Rep Gahalva was elected after the House was out of session. As soon as we returned to legislative session, as soon as the Democrats decide to turn the lights back on so we can all get back here, I will administer the oath on the first day. You could swear in tomorrow, right? No, not tomorrow. No, we couldn't. We wouldn't. There was an exception for two Floridians earlier in this Congress.

7:06But the reason was they were duly elected. They had a date set. They flew in all their friends and family and the house went out of session. So if she flies in friends and family, then we don't have a date set. She was elected. OK, OK, let me.

7:18Ben Meiselas:And then Maga Mike, look, just look how uncomfortable he is. You see it in his face that he looks like he's just sweating and he's looking down. He looks like a beaten and battered person. Let me show you what went down here when Maga Mike is asked. So do you support the pardon of George Santos? You know, George Santos stole people's credit cards. He stole the credit cards of Republican donors. And then he bought himself plastic surgery and he bought things for his home. I mean, he's literally a thief. That's what MAGA Mike, you realize that that's what George Santos did. And then MAGA Mike's like, nah, this is about redemption.

7:58Ben Meiselas:Whatever Donald Trump says is about redemption. Here, play this clip. The president's pardon of George Santos. What do you make of that? The president has the right on the Constitution for pardon and commutation, of course. We believe in redemption. This is a personal belief of mine. And, you know, I hope Mr. Santos makes the most of his second chance. I mean, how about the fact that the president is issuing the pardon or it's clemency. I'm sorry, the clemency. He said at least Santos had the courage, conviction and intelligence to always vote Republican. I looked through this there of now. I think we have a list of them.

8:3210 former Republican members of Congress who the president has either pardoned or issued clemency for. 10. Okay, you want to talk about what Joe Biden did with that power? No, I want to talk about what... The only thing he signed, by the way, with his own pen, everything else is auto pen. Yeah, but... But categories of hardened criminals that they just released from prison. At least President Trump is fully transparent. He goes out and explains his rationality to American people. essentially, I'm pardoning somebody because they always had the courage... That's not the reason he pardoned. conviction and intelligence to always vote Republican.

9:02That's one snippet of what he said among many things about George Santos. But should that be a factor in pardoning somebody? No, I don't think it was. I don't think it was. No, I don't think it was. I just think he's talking about this individual and his past. And at least he's open and transparent about it. Joe Biden never told us anything. And frankly, we're not even sure he knew he was pardoning.

9:22Ben Meiselas:I mean, you're all watching this with me, right? Like you see that this is like the most pathetic human being ever, right? Like, how do you even create a human being as spineless as this guy, Maga Mike? So then Maga Mike goes, look, everybody, let me tell you what we should really be talking about this weekend. I'm not sure why my Maga Mike impression is devolving into Billy Madison right there. But then Maga Mike goes, Donald Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. Look at how great things are going in Gaza right now. What the hell are you talking about? That fake ceasefire has already collapsed.

9:57Ben Meiselas:36, 37 Palestinians have already been killed by Israel. Hamas has retaken over control of Gaza. Benjamin Netanyahu, Smutrich, not only do they not support a two-state solution, Smutrich is saying, we're building more settlements in Gaza. Israel and Hamas didn't sign this agreement. Donald Trump doesn't support a two-state solution. So what the hell are we even talking about? Oh, yeah. And Israel said it was closing down the humanitarian aid routes. But go ahead, Maga Mike. Just say if Donald Trump says he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, why don't you sycophants keep talking about that? These freaking losers.

10:33Ben Meiselas:As Donald Trump's out there invading American cities, declaring war on America. What Donald Trump say this weekend? Next, he's going to San Francisco. That's what he said. His obsession with Newsom. But anyway, here's what Maga Mike says. Here play this clip. A historic peace deal that just by sheer force of his personality, President Trump was able to push through. And I think he greatly deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. In fact, Speaker Ohana of the Knesset and I have joined forces to try to collect as many signatures as we can from other speakers and leaders of parliaments around the free world to join us in co-nominating President Trump for the next Nobel Peace Prize.

11:09There's no one's more deserving than that.

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13:09Ben Meiselas:And then Maga Mike has asked, well, what do you think about these peaceful protests, the largest day of peaceful protests in the history of the United States. All of the things that you and Trump said that this was going to be violent and pro-Hamas and pro-terrorist, all the stupid stuff you said was proven to be false. People just want healthcare. People want affordability. People want to be able to afford their rent. People want peace in the world. People see Donald Trump's blatant corruption. That's what we're protesting. that we don't want kings in these United States of America. Then MAGA Mike Johnson whines about how much easier his life would be if America was actually a monarchy, as California Governor Gavin Newsom says.

13:52Ben Meiselas:Here play this clip. So let's start with the no kings rallies. You called these hate America rallies. What do you mean by that? Well, that collection of folks that I listed were certainly part of it. We congratulate them on a apparently violent free speech exercise. I was a First Amendment lawyer for 20 years. We defend that right. But the irony of the message is pretty clear for everyone. If President Trump was a king, the government would be open right now. If President Trump was a king, they would not have been able to engage in that free speech exercise out on the mall, by the way, which was open because President Trump hasn't closed it.

14:24In the last shutdown, 2013 era, President Obama closed the National Mall. It closed all the national parks, didn't allow people to engage in all this. So, I mean, they needed a stunt. They needed a show. Chuck Schumer needs cover right now. He's closed the government down because he needs political cover, and this was a part of it.

14:41Ben Meiselas:So then the host of the This Week show on ABC, Jonathan Karl, he goes to MAGA Mike. Don't you have questions, though, about what's happening in Venezuela as these fishing boats are being blown up? And now we're hearing from the leader of Colombia that it's innocent Colombian fishermen. We've heard from the leaders of Trinidad and Tobago that it was innocent fishermen there as well. Is this the way America is supposed to do things, committing war crimes, just blowing up ships without due process? And now we're apparently repatriating two individuals, one individual going back to Ecuador and another, I guess, to Colombia from the latest strike.

15:23Ben Meiselas:So these are narco terrorists who you're repatriating. Like, what the hell is going on? Watch what Mag and Mike says. Here, play this clip. We are winning. We are restoring peace through strength. Don't you have questions for him about Venezuela? What about it? Don't you have questions for him about what's happening in Venezuela? We have this buildup around Venezuela. We have the targeting of these boats. I mean, you must at least have questions about this. I know we have questions. You have drug cartels bringing in fentanyl and boatloads of it that would kill potentially hundreds of thousands of Americans.

15:52What we're doing is restoring. You have no questions about how they're doing. No, I believe in peace through strength. I think that the president and the commander in chief is in charge of ensuring national security and the safety of the American people. And I think most common sense Americans look at that and say, thank goodness. You take out one boat full of fentanyl, you save hundreds of thousands of American lives. It was the leading cause of death for Americans aged 18 to 49 during the Biden administration. We are fixing that. And that's why the American people put a strong commander in chief back in the office.

16:19All right. Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. Thanks a lot for being here.

16:22Ben Meiselas:next Maga Mike is asked, um, do you have a sense for why Pete Hegseth is so afraid to interact with journalists? And then Maga Mike's like, ah, reject that premises here. Play this clip. I just have to ask you what's happened at the Pentagon. Do you have a sense for why the secretary of defense seems to be afraid to interact with journalists who, who, who cover him. I reject the premise. There's nothing. Fear is not part of the Secretary of War's makeup. I mean, the guy's only had two briefings since he became Secretary of Defense. He's very transparent. And they basically forced the Pentagon press out of the building unless they would agree to sign a pledge that would make it impossible to be an independent journalist.

17:08I can't remember, and I don't think you can either, a Secretary of Defense who has been so transparent out in the open talking about priorities. Oh, I can. I covered the building and I traveled around the world with secretaries of defense. I interviewed them. I questioned them in the briefing room. Other reporters did as well. But did all those secretaries come out and do public speeches as often as he said to be everywhere all the time among the troops? But I mean, answering questions. And of course, I mean, you guys haven't brought him up to ask about what's happening in Venezuela. Yeah, we're not in session because Chuck Schumer shut the government down.

17:39OK, we have a lot of things to do. But I will tell you this about the secretary of war. We are winning. We are restoring peace through strength. That's one of our questions.

17:46Ben Meiselas:Now, in this next question that he's asked on state regime media known as Fox, the initial the entire premise of this question is bogus. But I want you to listen to what Maga Mike has to say here, because Peter Doocy says, you know, look, Donald Trump secured this historic peace deal and he was talking to Hamas and he brought Hamas and Israel together. So why is it easier to talk to Hamas than to Hakeem Jeffries and Maga Mike's like, oh, it's a great question. As I said before, there is no peace deal that happened between Hamas and Israel. They didn't sign any agreement. Former President Biden brought back 83 % of the hostages.

18:23Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump brought back the other percentage of the hostages. It's still good that Trump brought back the hostages, but let's not call a flawed and fabricated and fraudulent ceasefire a peace deal. It isn't. If former President Biden didn't spike the football and say, I made world peace in the Middle East when he got a ceasefire negotiated. What happened here? You don't even have Trump and Netanyahu saying they want a two-state solution. They don't acknowledge a free Palestine. So what are we even talking about here? But anyway, Mike Johnson's like, that's a great question. I guess it's easier to talk to Hamas than to talk to Hakeem Jeffries.

18:59Ben Meiselas:I mean, maybe the issue is, Maga Mike, that the Democrats don't want a fake deal because 20 million Americans are going to lose their health care and they're not willing to go along with just making up a fake statement and saying, oops, we got a deal, everybody. So Donald Trump, oh, I brought 25 bajillion, quadrillion, trillion, bazillion dollars. And no, the Democrats are saying this is real. It's not some fake talking point. Americans will lose their health care and they will die. So we as responsible stewards in this government need to protect people's health care. Do you understand that, Maga Mike, or are you just a total freaking idiot.

19:32Ben Meiselas:Here play this clip. Just for a lot of people who have been paying close attention all week, President Trump negotiated a big peace deal. At the same time, Democrats and Republicans cannot negotiate an end to this shutdown. It's the 19th day. Why is it that it seems like it is easier to talk to Hamas than Hakeem Jeffries? It's a great, great question. Hakeem Jeffries has the same problem that Chuck Schumer has right now. They're both New Yorkers. There is a rise of Marxism in the Democratic Party, and both of them are going to have challengers in their next election. So they have to show a fight.

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20:06So they picked one on this short gap funding measure, the CR, that Chuck Schumer himself championed just in March, seven months ago, the same exact thing. The only difference is they're trying to cover their own backsides politically. And it is shameful to us. When people say, why aren't you negotiating with them? Peter, I don't have anything to negotiate.

20:24Ben Meiselas:Yeah, I guess total freaking idiot. And then meanwhile, Donald Trump on Air Force One. I talked about this earlier, but let me just show you here. Trump is asked about that pollster I told you about, Fabrizio, who says 73 % of Americans want affordable care subsidies. It's popular. Extend it. And then Trump's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, play this clip. A July survey by your pollster, Tony Fabrizio, found that 72 % of voters across political parties, like the ACA tax credits? Are you worried that you might get blamed if you don't help get them through? Well, we want to have great health care, so we'll do whatever we can do to have great health care.

21:06But the Democrats want to destroy all health care because they want to give$1.5 trillion of this money, and they want additional money to go to people that came into our country illegally. Many of them are from prisons and mental institutions, and we're not going to destroy our health care for the Democrats.

21:23Ben Meiselas:Yeah, again, not sure what that impression was that I just did of Donald Trump right there. But that's what went down. We'll keep you posted every step of the way. Maga Mike, you saw him there for yourself. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe and let's get to six million. Thanks for watching.

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