In short
The episode alleges a “cover-up” around Jeffrey Epstein and the release of Epstein-related records, while also tying it to broader claims about political retaliation and election-related conspiracy narratives.
Guest backgrounds
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Key claims
Speaker claims House Speaker Mike Johnson shut down Congress to avoid Epstein-file votes, then said there’s “no fear” and that Trump/DOJ are already working to release materials. It claims a Florida judge rejected DOJ efforts to unseal grand jury testimony under Rule 6E/6E secrecy. It further alleges DOJ officials plan to meet Ghislaine Maxwell for a favorable statement, and that Trump-aligned figures push prosecutions against Obama tied to “treason” claims.
Notable examples
Johnson’s CPAC speech on human trafficking; references to Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche; Tulsi Gabbard and Caroline Leavitt discussing Obama; mention of Virginia Giuffre and Mar-a-Lago parties.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMaga Mike's Press Conference Panic
0:45 to 2:49
Discussion on Maga Mike Johnson's press conference and his statements about fear regarding the Epstein files.
“We're not going to allow the Democrats to use this as a political country.”
Human Trafficking and CPAC
2:49 to 5:35
Analysis of Maga Mike's speech at CPAC and his claims about combating human trafficking.
“They've requested the courts to unseal the documents so that they can be released.”
The DOJ and Grand Jury Testimony
5:35 to 8:00
Discussion on the DOJ's handling of grand jury testimony related to Epstein.
“with a wide open border and countless numbers of people falling victim to this atrocious evil.”
The Political Maneuvering Around Epstein
8:00 to 11:33
Exploration of the political strategies to distract from the Epstein files and Trump's involvement.
“knowing that they can never get the grand jury testimony, trying to distract us from the fact that they have the files, the DOJ and FBI has the Epstein files.”
The Political Maneuvering Around Epstein
12:11 to 12:22
Exploration of the political strategies to distract from the Epstein files and Trump's involvement.
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Calls for Obama’s Prosecution
12:22 to 14:00
Discussion on Tulsi Gabbard and Caroline Leavitt's comments regarding prosecuting Obama.
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Tulsi Gabbard on Senate Intelligence Findings
14:00 to 14:34
Discussion on Tulsi Gabbard's response to the Senate Intelligence Committee's conclusions about Russian interference.
“So a reporter then asks Tulsi Gabbard, well, what about the Senate bipartisan committee from a long time ago that agreed that the Senate Intelligence Committee agreed in a bipartisan fashion that Russia was involved?”
Director of National Intelligence's Claims
14:34 to 15:56
Analysis of the claims made by the Director of National Intelligence regarding political interference and the narrative surrounding it.
“in a bipartisan fashion, Secretary of State Rubio was a member of that committee, that there was no political interference.”
Legal Implications and Charges Against Obama
15:56 to 17:12
Discussion on the legal ramifications and potential charges discussed against former President Obama regarding intelligence findings.
“And did you believe that those two previous investigations missed that or covered it up?”
MAGA Mike and Human Trafficking
17:12 to 18:46
Examination of MAGA Mike Johnson's actions and the alleged connections to human trafficking and the Epstein cover-up.
“And the special counsel at the time, Durham, when that Supreme Court matter was not in effect, could have charged anyone and did not.”
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Trump's Connection to Epstein
18:46 to 18:58
Discussion on Trump's connections to Jeffrey Epstein and allegations of sex trafficking.
“like Virginia Giuffre is an example of that.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Ben Meiselas:Maga Mike Johnson is in panic mode right now. He is dripping with fear as Americans are demanding answers on the Epstein files. And as it is so obvious that Donald Trump is trying to cover up his dastardly connections with Epstein, let me show you what just went down moments ago. So after shutting down Congress and sending it into recess so that no votes can be taken on the release of the Epstein files, you have Magamite Johnson hold a press conference right outside of the House of Representatives. And he goes, I don't fear anything. I'm not scared about anything. Here, play this clip. Is there concern?
0:40I mean, obviously, we've seen conservatives shut down the House floor routinely. You saw that you had to pull the rule because of fear of Epstein votes. No, we don't have any fear. No, no. Hold on. No, Reese. No, there's no fear. No, there's no fear. There's no fear. We're not going to allow the Democrats to use this as a political country. Remember, they had four years. Hold on. The Biden administration held the Epstein files for four years. Not a single one of these Democrats or anyone in Congress made any people about that at all. They could have brought a discharge petition at any point in the last four years.
1:10They chose not to. They waited until President Trump was elected. I think that's very suspect. And I will not allow the House to be drug into political gamesmanship.
1:22Ben Meiselas:Now, in a moment, I'm going to show you what Maga Mike Johnson did after this press conference. He spoke at an event for CPAC that dealt with sex trafficking and human trafficking and presented himself as like the expert. Like, I am the person who is hereby stopping the scourge of human trafficking and sex trafficking. I hold the moral authority. I'll go show you that in a moment. But here, MAGA Mike Johnson says that he's been coordinating his plans with Donald Trump privately, says it in his own words. Here, play this clip. Right now, when I say there's no daylight between me and the president, we talk about this privately.
2:00He's spoken about it publicly. I have as well. He's trying to achieve the same exact objective that we are, that every member of the House Republican conference wants to achieve. And that is to let the American people decide this.
2:10Ben Meiselas:Now, a reporter asks Maga Mike Johnson, if there were promises Republicans made on Epstein, why is there no sense of urgency? Just hold the vote right now, Maga Mike. Why are you going into recess? And Maga Mike goes, there's no point in doing that right now. Donald Trump and the DOJ are already focused on that. Here, play this clip. I will not allow the House to be drug into political gamesmanship.
2:41There's no point in having a vote today because the administration is already doing everything within their power to release them. They've gone to the grand jury. They've requested the courts to unseal the documents so that they can be released. The president himself has said all credible evidence should be put out to the American people while protecting the innocent. That's where we stand as well. There's no point in passing a resolution to urge the administration to do something that they are already doing. And so that's why we're going to let that process play out. This is not out of fear in any way.
3:15What we're trying to do is maximize transparency and stand for the truth. We want, wait, let me say this is very important. We want every single person who is involved in any way in the Epstein evils to be brought to swift justice. We want the full weight of the law to fall upon their head. And I will do everything within my power to make sure that it's possible. That process is underway right now, and we'll see how it plays out.
3:38Ben Meiselas:Now, I'm going to do another video on that. So a district court in the Southern District of Florida has rejected the Trump administration's request to release certain grand jury testimony regarding Jeffrey Epstein. And I told you the federal court was going to do that under Rule 6E of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, a district court is not authorized to release grand jury testimony. There's something called grand jury secrecy. In fact, in the motion to release the grand jury testimony, which by the way, is only a small fraction of the Epstein files, it's like 1 % and is not going to have the relevant stuff.
4:16Ben Meiselas:The FBI and the DOJ have the 300 gigabytes of all the relevant stuff that people actually want to see. But in the motion to unseal, Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice literally wrote that the federal courts could not release the documents under rule, the grand jury testimony that is under rule 6E. They said it in the motion. So the judge said, I'll do a whole video on this. The judge said, as conceded by the government, we're not allowed to release this under 11th Circuit Court of Appeals precedent. So then MAGA Mike Johnson, as I mentioned, he goes to an event, literally can't make this stuff up, on sex trafficking and human trafficking because this is worse than 1984.
4:55Ben Meiselas:Up is down, left is right, war is peace. And he just goes, there's arguably nothing more important that we are fighting for in the Republican Party than to stop human trafficking. Sickos, sickos. Here play this clip. To be the guy that carries all the briefcases around. And now I have one of my own. So grateful to be with you. I just wanted to come by for a very brief moment. It's a busy day on Capitol Hill. We've got a lot going on. But there's arguably nothing more important than what you are involved in here today. It is an unspeakable evil that we face with human trafficking, the scourge that it has been, the absolute human catastrophe that has developed and had developed over the previous four years in the last administration, with a wide open border and countless numbers of people falling victim to this atrocious evil.
5:43So what we did in the big, beautiful bill is not just reduce taxes, not just cut spending, not just restore American energy dominance and restore us to peace through strength and common sense and strengthen safety net programs and all the rest. But arguably one of the most important things that we've done in our lifetimes is ensure that the border is secure once again. And we got that done. Yes.
6:07Ben Meiselas:And here he is again talking about the scourge of people who are victims of human trafficking. you're aiding and abetting it right now, MAGA Mike Johnson. Here play this clip.
6:43and Matt, Mercedes, and the whole team, we're doing extraordinary work. Thanks for leading on this in a historic moment. Thank you for the time that you're investing. It's an important principle of scripture that we defend the defenseless, and you're doing that. God knows it. I know it. The House Republicans know it, and we thank you for it. Thanks so much. Thank you.
7:16Ben Meiselas:So there's a parallel plan taking place. You could break down exactly what the Trump regime is doing, right? They've ordered MAGA Mike Johnson to stop the House of Representatives from doing further business, right? Shut it down. At the same time, you have the Department of Justice heads, Pam Bondi, and the number two, Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general. they are saying they're going to meet directly with Ghislaine Maxwell. Why? They're going to try to get a statement from her that tries to be favorable to Donald Trump, likely in return to reduce her sentence, give her a commutation or a pardon down the line.
7:56Ben Meiselas:And while that delay is going on, they then did this, oh, well, we're going to try to get the grand jury testimony, knowing that they can never get the grand jury testimony, trying to distract us from the fact that they have the files, the DOJ and FBI has the Epstein files. They could release it 300 gigabytes based on the search warrants executed of Epstein and Ghislaine and their homes and their phones and their electronic devices and their computers. And then this is Trumpism 101, then go on the offensive and attack Obama. Say Obama was involved in the biggest scandal and threatened a criminal prosecution against Obama.
8:34Ben Meiselas:So while Mike was holding that press conference, you had the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, standing with Donald Trump's chief propagandist, Caroline Levitt. And they were talking about criminally prosecuting former President Obama for treason and going after him and saying the Department of Justice needs to arrest Obama that Obama engaged, they say, in a hoax that tied Donald Trump to Russia in 2016 and that all of these secrets are coming out. And this is the scandal you need to focus on. This is how disgusting and vile and pathetic and desperate the Trump regime is to hide Epstein.
9:14Ben Meiselas:This is what they're doing. So let me show you. You have Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. She was asked to respond to Obama's remarks about, what are you even talking about? What the hell is going on here. Marco Rubio, Donald Trump's secretary of state, said that there was Russian interference in the 2016 election, that it didn't change and they weren't able to hack and change any votes, but that Russia was involved. There's a bipartisan Senate report. Here's what Tulsi Gabbard says. Let's play it. I think it's a disservice to the American people that former President Obama's office and others who are criticizing the transparency that is being delivered by releasing these documents.
9:54They are doing a disservice to the American people and trying to deflect away from their culpability in what is a historic scandal and negative action towards the American people and our democratic republic. The answer to that statement can very clearly be found throughout all of the documents that we have released. Again, showing that Russia has took action to try to sow discord in the election, but showed no preference for or against any singular candidate. The weather is heating up and your nighttime bedroom temperature has a huge impact on your sleep quality. If you wake up too hot or too cold, I highly recommend that you check out Miracle Made's bedsheets.
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12:25Ben Meiselas:And then Tulsi Gabbard and Caroline Leavitt suggest that Obama needs to be criminally prosecuted and that he should not get immunity. Here play this clip. Maybe either for you or Caroline. The president said yesterday that Obama committed treason. Do you or the White House believe that the Supreme Court's immunity decision protects Obama from prosecution? I can speak to the president's feelings on this matter. He spoke to all of you yesterday in the Oval Office, but I also spoke to him about this this morning. And he wants to see all those who perpetuated this fraud against our country, who betrayed our country and the Constitution to be thoroughly investigated and held accountable.
13:07And it's been 10 years of this. And I would just add, based on everything the director has said and declassified, all of you in this room should go through it and take a look at this report and review the intelligence, because unfortunately, that hasn't happened. And many of the people who perpetuated this hoax, Clapper, Andy McCabe, James Comey, and many others have been hired by major networks in this room to go on television and continue to spew these lies, knowing that they are lies.
13:36Ben Meiselas:And then Caroline Levitt starts yelling at the press and saying it's not journalism to propagate political disinformation. Here play this clip of them. It is not journalism to propagate political disinformation in service of the Democrat Party and those in the intelligence community who hand over out of context and fake intelligence to push a false political narrative. I will now pass it over to the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, to speak more about all of this. And then we will open it. So a reporter then asks Tulsi Gabbard, well, what about the Senate bipartisan committee from a long time ago that agreed that the Senate Intelligence Committee agreed in a bipartisan fashion that Russia was involved?
14:19Ben Meiselas:And this was already reported on that. It didn't change a vote, but that Russia interfered. And then Tulsi Gabbard's like, oh, that's just the Senate Intelligence Committee. I'm the director of national intelligence. I know what's really going on. Here, play this clip. The Senate Intelligence Committee spent several years looking into this and unanimously agreed in a bipartisan fashion, Secretary of State Rubio was a member of that committee, that there was no political interference. There was a years-long Justice Department investigation into this as well that also concluded no political interference.
14:51So help us, from a 50 ,000-foot level, explain what do you now have that refutes those two conclusions? Sure. I will encourage you. in my role as the director of national intelligence. My job, again, as I said, when I came into this role was to make sure that we are telling the truth to the American people and that we are ensuring that the intelligence community is not being politicized. So I'm not asking you to take my word for it. I'm asking you and the media to conduct honest journalism and the American people to see for yourself in the documents that we've released now, close to 200 pages that point in multiple references, multiple examples to include comments that have been made by senior intelligence professionals who are some still working within these agencies today that confirm the conclusions that we have drawn, that President Obama directed an intelligence community assessment to be created to further this contrived false narrative that ultimately led to a years-long coup to try to undermine President Trump's presidency.
15:58And did you believe that those two previous investigations missed that or covered it up? I'm telling you to look at the evidence, look at the evidence and you will know the truth.
16:08Ben Meiselas:And then Tulsi Gabbard is asked, well, you know, the statute of limitations on conspiracy has expired. So what other than treason are you going to try to charge Obama with? And she goes, well, that's a great question for Attorney General Pam Bondi. Here, play this clip. And then just quickly, I know you said you would leave the charging to DOJ, but the statute of limitations on conspiracy is five years. So what else could they possibly pursue besides treason? I think that's a great question for Attorney General Pam Bondi. We're providing all of the evidence, all of the intelligence that we have, both redacted and unredacted versions, referring it to the Department of Justice and the FBI.
16:46Ben Meiselas:And then finally, Caroline Leavitt is asked, well, you know, Obama couldn't be charged based on immunity. And then she goes, I'll leave that to the DOJ. Watch what Caroline Levitt says.
17:22And the special counsel at the time, Durham, when that Supreme Court matter was not in effect, could have charged anyone and did not. So on those two points, how do you respond? Look, the president has made it clear that he wanted these documents to be declassified. He wanted the American people to see the truth. And now he wants those who perpetuated these lies and this scandal to be held accountable. As for what accountability looks like, as the director said, it's in the Department of Justice's hands. and we trust them to move this ball forward. Who would agree that Obama cannot be charged based on that immunity?
17:57Again, I'll leave that to the Department of Justice. Stephanie.
17:59Ben Meiselas:So folks, do you see the anatomy of the Epstein cover-up right here? First, you have MAGA Mike Johnson. Then he goes and speaks at a human trafficking event to act like he's defending it or he's supporting strict enforcements against human trafficking while aiding and abetting human trafficking. Then you have the DOJ weaponized by Donald Trump threatening to arrest Obama. And then you have the DOJ working behind the scenes to try to silence Ghislaine Maxwell, who says her life is threatened. Tie it all together, folks. It's right there for us to see. That's why I'm showing you clips, clips, clips, receipts, receipts, receipts, so you can see the cover up for yourself.
18:38Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump is terrified based on his connections to Jeffrey Epstein and based on the fact that Mar-a-Lago was used to find girls to sex traffic, like Virginia Giuffre is an example of that. You know, when that Epstein and Trump would hold parties with just them and 30 girls at Mar-a-Lago. It's all out there. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. Thanks for watching. Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas Plus sub stack for ad-free articles, reports, podcasts, daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski and more. Sign up for free now at MidasPlus.com.
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