MAGA Mike Panics in Public as His Job Is in Imminent Jeopardy

26 Oct 2025 · 20 min · 10 chapters

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In short

The episode criticizes House Speaker Mike Johnson (MAGA Mike) for keeping the House in recess during a government shutdown, delaying swearing in Democratic Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva, and allegedly avoiding a vote tied to releasing the Epstein files; it also argues Republicans won’t share health-care plans while subsidies are at risk.

Guest backgrounds

No named guests appear in the transcript. The host/voice is Ben Micellis (Midas Touch Network), with references to others (e.g., Caitlin Collins, Sahil Kapoor, Ron Filipkowski, Marjorie Taylor Greene).

Key claims

Johnson says the shutdown prevents swearing in Grijalva, but the episode argues that pro forma sessions show it’s possible; it claims the real motive is avoiding the Epstein-file vote. It also claims Republicans won’t disclose health-care subsidy proposals.

Notable examples

Grijalva’s lawsuit; Johnson keeping the House adjourned unusually long; claims of 43,000+ Epstein-file pages released by Oversight; CNN clips about missing health-care plan details; a congressman (Mark Alford) saying he hasn’t seen Johnson’s proposals.

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MAGA Mike Johnson's Struggles

0:58 to 1:57

Discussing MAGA Mike's challenges with the government shutdown and Congress.

“Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile.”

MAGA Mike Johnson's Struggles

2:02 to 5:08

Discussing MAGA Mike's challenges with the government shutdown and Congress.

“Wow, Maga Mike Johnson, Republican Speaker of the House, is just losing all control.”

Health Care Plan Controversy

5:08 to 8:14

Exploring the lack of clarity around Mike Johnson's health care plan.

“So Maga Mike is then asked on CNN with Caitlin Collins.”

Universal Health Care Discussion

8:14 to 10:46

Debate on health care options and the need for universal coverage.

“or if we see these billionaires spending tens of millions of dollars to like defeat Mom Donnie or whatever.”

MAGA Mike's Political Maneuvering

11:20 to 14:00

Examining Mike Johnson's statements and the implications of congressional actions.

“I guess that's what you think the point is.”

Government Shutdown and Political Distractions

14:00 to 15:21

Explore the implications of the government shutdown and its political motivations.

“estate files and all the rest and get them out.”

Epstein Files and Political Accountability

15:22 to 16:36

Discussion on the impact of the Epstein files and the demand for accountability.

“He shut down votes early and sent people home a week early to avoid a vote on the Epstein files.”

MAGA Mike's Stance on Healthcare

16:37 to 17:58

A critical look at MAGA Mike's assertions about healthcare reform.

“Okay, that's still on my things-to-do list.”

Marjorie Taylor Greene on Economic Challenges

17:59 to 18:20

Highlights from Marjorie Taylor Greene discussing rising prices and costs.

“I can tell you that in my own electric bills.”

Marjorie Taylor Greene on Economic Challenges

18:21 to 18:50

Highlights from Marjorie Taylor Greene discussing rising prices and costs.

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2:06Ben Meiselas:Wow, Maga Mike Johnson, Republican Speaker of the House, is just losing all control. He's flailing after Friday, where he adjourned the House of Representatives once again, continuing to tell the MAGA Republican Congress members, stay away from the House, stay on vacation as the government shutdown begins to hit the date, which it will be the longest government shutdown in American history. Maga Mike Johnson was making his rounds on the various TV shows and media networks. And he spoke with the Wall Street Journal. And he was asked about the lawsuit filed by Democratic Congresswoman-elect Adelita Grijalva from Arizona's 7th Congressional District against him and the sergeant at arms to swear her in so that she can function as an actual congresswoman after winning her election many, many weeks ago.

2:57Ben Meiselas:So they're refusing to swear her in and Maga Mike Johnson saying, oh, well, that's just because the government shutdown. So we can't swear her in. Yes, you can. You've sworn other people in all the time in pro forma sessions and the government shutdown doesn't affect that. And by the way, you all caused the government shutdown. And the reason you're refusing to swear in Grijalva is because she would become the 218th signature on the Epstein discharge petition, which would then result in the release of the Epstein file. So that's one of the reasons that y 'all are continuing this government shutdown.

3:27Ben Meiselas:But Maga Mike, in this interview with The Wall Street Journal, says, all right, Adelita, bring it, sister. Bring it. Bring it. Bring it, sister. To just swear her in, you weirdo. What do you mean, bring it, sister? Here, play this clip. But here's the thing. I'm following the Pelosi precedent on this. They're saying that this is some sort of constitutional violation or something. It's a joke. The attorney general from Arizona just wants publicity. She's lobbed on to this as well. Let me get her day in the sun. Bring it. Sister. Okay. As Sahil Kapoor writes, Speaker Johnson is officially keeping the House in recess for another week as of Friday, with no sign of when it'll return.

4:07Ben Meiselas:The House has not been in a regular session since September 19th. Highly unusual. Never has happened really before. Adelita for Arizona, Adelita Grijalva, was elected on September 23rd and still hasn't been sworn in despite her repeated requests. As our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski writes, Today, Mike Johnson will keep the House adjourned for the 81st day out of the last 93 days, 12 days of work in over three months with full pay and benefits. The MAGA Republicans get full pay and benefits. They did send$40 billion to Argentina and are importing Argentinian beef to screw over our ranchers as well.

4:46Ben Meiselas:They get universal health care in Argentina, by the way, as 20 million Americans will lose their health care coverage very soon. Philip Kowski writes, the Senate has been working. So this is not about the shutdown. Senate's been holding hearings. I've showed you some of those. It's about avoiding a vote to release the Epstein files. And Trump wants the government shut down. Trump doesn't want the government to work. For the past six to nine months, we've effectively been in a government shutdown anyway. Now it's just official. So Maga Mike is then asked on CNN with Caitlin Collins. So if you have this health care plan that you're talking about, why not share it with people so the American people can know transparently what's your plan?

5:27Ben Meiselas:Why don't you share what your plan is, Mag and Mike? If you claim that you have a plan better than the Affordable Care Act with the subsidies, talk about it. Here's what Mag and Mike says. Here, play this clip. But if you have ideas and you have plans, why not have that out there to talk about in the public so the people can hear that debate happening? I mean, you could have committees in session right now. They will, Caitlin. Talking about this. I think the question is maybe when. Yeah, we need to get back to regular sessions so we can't. No, we're not going to allow Chuck Schumer to play selfish political games and hold the American people hostage.

6:02We will not negotiate with legislative terrorists. We're not going to let them do that. We can't. We owe it to the people to get this government operated again. Republicans have now voted 12 or 13 times, counting the House and Senate, 13 times to open the government. And the Democrats have voted 13 times to close it down. It is wrong. There is no reason for it.

6:21Ben Meiselas:So you're not going to share it with us until the end of the government shutdown, which is being caused by the fact that you're taking away health care for from 20 million Americans. I mean, look, if you just want to listen to what MAGA Republican Congress members are saying, they don't know what MAGA Mike's even talking about. They don't know. They haven't seen the plan. So even the Congress members saying we'd like to see the plan right here, for example, is you have Mark Alford, MAGA Republican congressman. He's asked on CNN. So do you know what Mike's talking about with the health care planet?

6:54Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. House Speaker Mike Johnson told our Caitlin Collins a few nights ago that Republicans have proposals to address the health care subsidies. and that they could have them ready, quote, immediately. I mean, look, over 400 ,000 people in Missouri are enrolled in the marketplace. Have you seen those proposals that Speaker Johnson is talking about? What are they then? Enlighten me. No, I have not. I would like to. I'm coming back up to D.C. on Tuesday to meet with my staff there and check in on them. We have been doing tremendous work in our district covering all 24 counties. I would like to I will tell you this, Omar.

7:30Yeah. I don't think the Democrats are serious about this. They are using this as leverage. They want the pain. They want these statements to come out from the insurance companies. We've come November. We've heard from Democrats who see these. And John Soon, the Senate majority leader, actually proposed to get this on the House, on the Senate floor for debate and a vote. He promised that to them and they said no to that.

7:53Ben Meiselas:So if you asked me, hey, Ben, what do you think is better than the Affordable Care Act? I would tell you there needs to be universal health care. And that means health care should be free, in my view, to every Americans. And I think rich people should be taxed more in order to provide health care to everybody. That's my own view. And if these billionaires are writing checks for$138 million to fund six hours of payroll for the United States military, or if we see these billionaires spending tens of millions of dollars to like defeat Mom Donnie or whatever. They clearly have the money in order to pay a little bit more taxes each so that everybody in this country gets healthcare and we won't have a healthcare crisis.

8:36Ben Meiselas:So I believe universal healthcare. The alternative is Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, which has led to 20 million plus Americans getting insurance. Then you use the subsidies to lower the costs of the monthly premiums. Otherwise it'll cost like$20 ,000 a year, which Americans can't afford if the subsidies are not extended by Trump and the MAGAs. And then you have, if you have a third plan, let us know. I mean, Trump has always said, oh, I'll let you know. Remember the first term in two weeks, in two weeks, or I'll lower prescription drug prices, 1600%. Those aren't plans. You're not telling us the truth.

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10:39Ben Meiselas:But all they want to do is destroy, just like the East Wing of the White House. They just want to destroy. Here's what Trump said. Play this clip. Replacing Obamacare for 10 years and then he voted against. Nobody understands. Sir, you said during the campaign you had concepts of a plan. Do you have an actual plan at this point for health care? Yes, we have concepts of a plan that would be better. Still just concepts. Do you have a fully developed plan? Let me explain. And then Caroline Levitt was asked, so what's the president's way he's going to stop rising health care costs? And Levitt's like, we're not going to tell you until the shutdown's over.

11:14Ben Meiselas:What do you mean you're not going to tell us? Like, what does that even mean? Like, what's the point of what you're doing as a government if it's just to inflict pain? I guess that's what you think the point is. Here, play this clip. First is we understand that the president and Republicans will not negotiate on ACA extensions until the government reopens. If and when that happens, what does the president think should be or what are his plans for preventing rising health care costs? It's a very good question. And I'll leave that to the president to negotiate that when Democrats vote to reopen the government.

11:48When it comes to lowering health care costs, the president is deeply committed to this. It's why he has spent so much time and effort negotiating with big pharma to lower the healthcare costs of prescription drugs.

11:59Ben Meiselas:Well, then you have like this Pennsylvania woman who's explaining her situation. On average, healthcare costs in Pennsylvania will go up 103%. I'm 51 years old, a hairstylist. I've been doing hair for 32 years now. I would call myself low, lowest, not even middle class. I knew cuts were going to happen in different areas with the government I knew but I didn't know they were gonna take our health care I mean this is this is big so my plan without the subsidy right now is almost 600 a month so if I imagine that with a 15 % increase on top I don't know how anyone in my income bracket can afford to absorb 600 plus a month for health care I don't know.

12:50It just sucks. I'll go back to either being uninsured and paying cash out of pocket for doctor visits or medical.

13:00Ben Meiselas:I saw the stat that this family in Colorado, that's, you know, making 83,$85 ,000 a year. They're going to see their healthcare costs go up, uh,$20 ,000 a year. They're not going to be able to afford it. Obviously I showed you the clip, right? of the lady in Pennsylvania. Now, going back to Maga Mike Johnson, he lies and then says Adelita Grijalva should be working. Why isn't she working? She's got a staff. Here, play this clip. Rep Grijalva can work. Rep elect Grijalva can work for her constituents right now. Constituent services answering the phone. She has computers and 16 employees and there's no excuse for it.

13:37The Epstein files are being released. 43 ,000 pages now. There was another batch of documents dumped on Friday of last week, which included Epstein's personal ledgers, his financial ledgers, his daily calendar, his flight logs, all the things that people have been saying they wanted. It's all coming out. Why? Because the House Oversight Committee has been working through this period, even when we're not on the House floor, to go through and dig through the Epstein estate files and all the rest and get them out. So these are all distractions, all distractions from the main point. They have shut the government down for political purposes, and we got to get it reopened.

14:13Ben Meiselas:And Adelie DeGrijalva made it very clear that he's a liar and that she can't. Here's what she had to say. Well, and you're talking about how, you know, people call it, they still hear your dad's voice. I mean, even on smaller things than that, logistical things, you can't get into Capitol Hill right now after certain hours because of the shutdown, unless you have a Hill badge. I mean, that's where we're broadcasting from right now, but you technically could not be on set with us tonight because you can't come in to the Hill property this late at night. No, I can't. I could hitch a ride with you maybe, but I can't go on my own.

14:44Because, I mean, even when, if you saw I joined the Democratic caucus and walked down Capitol Hill, I went, walked down, like, we took the steps down and I stood there with them. They had to come, someone had to come get me from security. I cannot get in without going through security. I mean, there are logistics and real things that come with being sworn in. And even graciously, the people that are trying to help me get my office up and going, there's so many things that they know I can't do.

15:11Ben Meiselas:And then Adelita Grijalva also pointed out that once again, Speaker Johnson shut down votes early and sent people home to avoid a vote on the Epstein files. Here, let's play this clip. He shut down votes early and sent people home a week early to avoid a vote on the Epstein files. So I do think, you know, more than anything, this was an issue that Trump ran on. Right. Day one, I'm going to release those Epstein files. And that's why everybody's so mad. Yeah. People were very I mean, it didn't matter what party you're like, great, because whoever committed a crime, whoever's implicated needs to deal with legal consequences to that.

15:48And the survivors need to have an opportunity to start to rebuild their lives and put this behind them. I can't imagine what it feels like to continue to have this issue front and center over and over again. And it's just like a wound that they can't heal from until there is justice for the victims.

16:09Ben Meiselas:And then, of course, Maga Mike doesn't know anything about Donald Trump trying to pay himself$230 million from the Department of Justice because Trump claims he experiences pain and suffering from the 2020 election. Play this clip. You said yesterday you were still trying to get the details of this$230 million the president has asked for the Justice Department to pay for his legal bills. Now that you've had some time left to get the details, are you okay with taxpayers potentially being on the hook for that kind of money? I'm not trying to dodge the question. I haven't had time to get the details.

16:42Okay, that's still on my things-to-do list. Yesterday was almost literally a 21-hour workday. Yes, sir.

16:48Ben Meiselas:And then here's Maga Mike saying the Republican Party is the party of health care, the party to fix health care. OK, well, you're not. But then just show us what your plans are. Here play this clip. When the government dumps more money on a bad system, it makes it worse. And that is the reality. We have to make everybody face that. And then we've got to build the consensus around the solutions. We have lots of ideas. The Republican Party is the party ready to fix that. And we're demonstrating that every day. We brought down costs in Medicaid. and we strengthen the program in the big, beautiful bill because we got ineligible enrollees off the program and we brought down the cost.

17:22It's going to save, the CBO says, the measures that we did in that bill on Medicaid, for example, going to save$185 billion. So they're good ideas, Joe. We just need time to work through the consensus to do it. But we've got to get the lights back on here again. We've got to open the government so that all of that can happen.

17:36Ben Meiselas:You know what? I think that gives away the whole game right here. And look, even Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying prices and everything are too high and insurance costs are too high right now. Here's what Marjorie Talley Green says. Play this clip. Food prices are high. Rent is high. Home prices are ridiculously high. Cars are high. Auto insurance, home insurance, health insurance is insane. Energy prices are high. I can tell you that in my own electric bills. They're much more expensive than they were even a year ago. So you all judge for yourself. I'm just showing you the data points and let me know what you think.

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