In short
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R) shuts down the U.S. House for at least two weeks after MAGA Republicans vote against a rule to bring legislation to the floor, amid midterm concerns and disputes over affordability, immigration, and birthright citizenship.
Guests/backgrounds
The episode is driven by Capitol Hill reporters (Manu Raju; Pablo Monriquez) and interviews with multiple members of Congress, including Rep. Tom Keene (claims depression), Rep. Troy Nels (affordability remarks), Rep. Elsie (deflects affordability question), and Democratic Rep. Ballant. It also references Trump and J.D. Vance.
Key claims
Johnson says the conference is under control and blames “emotional” irrational decisions; Trump didn’t sign a bipartisan housing affordability bill, prioritizing election integrity (Save America Act); birthright citizenship is “abused” despite the Supreme Court’s 14th Amendment ruling.
Notable examples
Members “peacing out”/vacationing while the House is closed; Nels’ “bed sheet over the Statue of Liberty” and 10-year immigration moratorium; Johnson spending hours in the Oval Office discussing housing; Scalise calling it a “golden age” as gas prices fall.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMAGA Mike Johnson Loses Control
2:41 to 3:19
Discussion of MAGA Mike Johnson's inability to manage the House.
“This is the same thing we've been doing.”
House Shutdown Explained
3:19 to 5:11
The reasons and implications of the House of Representatives' shutdown.
“the House of Representatives once again.”
Trump's Influence on Legislation
5:11 to 6:22
Exploring Trump's demands and their impact on GOP priorities.
“so Donald Trump now wants you to pass legislation to ban birthright citizenship after the Supreme Court's ruling, which upheld birthright citizenship of the United States Constitution.”
Tom Kane's Controversy
6:22 to 7:21
Discussion surrounding Tom Kane's absence and health disclosures.
“I don't know what the remedy is, how to define it, or the timeline.”
MAGA Republicans Avoid Press
7:21 to 8:13
Commentary on MAGA Republicans' evasive behavior towards press questions.
“And all MAGA Republicans seem to just be running away from either Manu Raju or from the Midas Touch Network reporters on Capitol Hill.”
Troy Nehls on Affordability
11:57 to 14:00
Troy Nehls discusses affordability and economic concerns from a personal perspective.
“Midas Touch Network's Pablo Monriquez when the House was officially shut down as he was leaving to go back home to Texas.”
MAGA Republican Views on Immigration
14:00 to 14:33
Discussion on MAGA Republican Troy Nels' controversial immigration stance.
“You think the 60 % of Americans who are living paycheck to paycheck can afford lobster tails and ribeyes and all of that?”
The Moratorium on Immigration
14:33 to 15:10
Troy Nels suggests a 10-year moratorium on immigration in America.
“The fact of the matter is this, is that if the American people are truly, truly going to enjoy the 4th of July, right?”
Accountability for Republicans
15:10 to 16:21
Discussion on the accountability of MAGA Republicans regarding affordability issues.
“The people over here on visas, you know, you signed a little deal that says, I come over here for five years and then I'm going to believe they're overstaying their visas.”
Congresswoman Ballant's Critique
16:21 to 17:12
Democratic Congresswoman Ballant criticizes Republican leadership and their lack of action.
“You guys control every branch of government.”
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Trump's 250th Anniversary Celebration
17:12 to 18:14
Ballant comments on Trump's party for the 250th anniversary and its failures.
“I have my team total up the number of days that he has sent us home early since I've been in Congress.”
Bipartisan Housing Affordability
18:14 to 19:11
Discussion on bipartisan efforts for housing affordability and Trump's refusal to sign.
“Vance is like, OK, you know what I really wish I wish we could do?”
Fear-Based Politics
19:11 to 20:10
MAGA Republicans criticized for running on pain and fear rather than solutions.
“If we solve the problem with compassion, with dignity, and with strong borders all combined, then it could hurt us in the elections, the MAGA said.”
Scalise's Golden Age Claim
20:10 to 22:36
Steve Scalise claims America is in a 'golden age' despite challenges.
“the house, Steve Scalise, who's basically one of the top MAGA Republicans in the house, other than MAGA Mike, he's basically the top of leadership.”
MAGA Mike's Defense of Trump
22:36 to 23:10
MAGA Mike defends Trump's inaction on housing legislation and electoral integrity.
“And that's not to say that there are not also incredibly important issues and the cost of living and affordability is among them.”
Transcript
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2:45Ben Meiselas:MAGA Mike Johnson has indeed lost control of the House of Representatives, and he has lost control over his own party that just revolted against him. And MAGA Mike Johnson just shut down the House of Representatives until at least July 13th. So at least a two-week shutdown right now because the MAGA Republicans refused to pass a rule which would allow pieces of legislation and other matters before the House of Representatives to come to the floor. So MAGA Mike Johnson just decided, all right, we're going to shut down the House of Representatives once again. You had MAGA Republican Congress members like Luna, Miller, Harris, Burchett, Burleson, Roy, Fine, Crane, Spar itself, Turner.
3:33Ben Meiselas:You had Thomas Massey, Boebert, and Scalise all vote against the rule. And so now the House of Representatives is indeed shut down. Now, Manu Raju is asking MAGA Mike Johnson about just having zero control over the House heading into the midterms as the MAGA Republicans in generic ballots are trailing Democrats somewhere between 10 and 20 points. Watch what MAGA Mike Johnson says to Manu Raju play this clip. For us to stop our very important progress forward from House Republicans because
4:12We're going to come back and try to do this. We're going to do it again. Have you lost control of the conference? No, sir. We have full control of the conference. This is the same thing we've been doing the whole time. We have the smallest margin in U.S. history. We're nearing an election. People get very emotional about things. And sometimes they make irrational decisions. So I don't hold grudges against anybody. I just got to get all the team members to get Back working in the same direction. Same song, different verse. Same job. Has the president been leaning on these guys, too? Has the president?
4:44The president's not involved. No, he's not involved. Does he need to get involved? I suspect he's going to be very frustrated by this. Are these are these members making it harder for you to keep the majority? No, we're going to win the majority and I'll have a bigger margin. I won't have these problems. What do you have to say to these guys?
4:59Ben Meiselas:Then before Maga Mike Johnson was running away there for Manu Raju earlier in the day, before he had to officially shut down the house, Manu Raju was asking Maga Mike, so Donald Trump now wants you to pass legislation to ban birthright citizenship after the Supreme Court's ruling, which upheld birthright citizenship of the United States Constitution. So, Maga Mike, is that going to be your priority right now as Donald Trump refuses to sign the housing affordability bill, which was a bipartisan bill? Now you're going to be shutting down the House of Representatives. Your priority was to push a voter suppression bill.
5:41Ben Meiselas:And now is it going to be to pass legislation to try to ban birthright citizenship, even though the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality under the 14th Amendment of birthright citizenship? Watch MAGA Mike Johnson play this clip.
6:21I think it's clearly an issue that merits the attention of Congress. I don't know what the remedy is, how to define it, or the timeline. It would be premature for me to project that. But I will tell you that it's a big concern with the American people because it's been abused. And Tom Kane, can he run for re-election given the way he handled this and didn't disclose this to his voters? If someone, let me just say this about Tom Kane. I mean, if someone is going to suggest that he is ineligible to be reelected by a big margin just because he has had to deal with an illness that, as he noted, almost 50 million Americans have dealt with it sometime in their life, I think that's a really unfair question.
7:00I think he addressed it appropriately on the floor. I told him I sent him a note as soon as he walked out the floor and said, we're in your corner and we're behind you 100%. He has a long service individually and in his family of noble public service to the people of New Jersey. I think his constituents understand that. I think they're going to send a message and send him back and let him continue doing the great work that he's done all these years for his constituents. Should he have disclosure earlier?
7:22Ben Meiselas:And all MAGA Republicans seem to just be running away from either Manu Raju or from the Midas Touch Network reporters on Capitol Hill. You had MAGA Republican Congress member Tom Keene, who showed up after not being in the House of Representatives since about March without explanation. And then yesterday he said the reason that he hasn't been working is because of depression, he says. And so he didn't show up because of depression, which by the way, it's a serious matter, but he's been not disclosing that since March, raises a lot of red flags. And here he is, MAGA Republican, running away from Manu Raju, asking him, Why wouldn't you just tell people earlier if it was depression like back in March?
8:09Ben Meiselas:And do you think your constituents should have confidence in you? Here, play this clip. Why don't you just address what happened off the bat when you first were diagnosed with this condition? Is there a reason for not saying right away? Are you running for re-election? Can you run for re-election? Did your constituents deserve to know earlier?
8:48Ben Meiselas:And then we had all these MAGA Republicans just peacing out, running away. They're on vacation for another two weeks now as the House of Representatives is shut down. MAGA Republican Congress member Grothman ran away from the Midas Touch Network's Pablo Monriquez. Play this clip. Congressman, real quick, what are House Republicans doing this week on affordability? Nothing. MAGA Republican Congress member Gil ran away from the Midas Touch Network. We were just asking him basic questions. The question was this. It wasn't a trick question. What are House Republicans doing this week on affordability.
9:28Ben Meiselas:What are you doing on affordability? They run away from us. Play this clip. Congressman, real quick, what are House Republicans doing this week for affordability? Hey, MAGA Republican Congressmember Hearn, what are you doing on affordability? Play this clip. Congressman, real quick, what are House Republicans doing this week on affordability?
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11:56Ben Meiselas:Now, I guess at least MAGA Republican Congress member Troy Nell stopped to speak with the Midas Touch Network's Pablo Monriquez when the House was officially shut down as he was leaving to go back home to Texas. He was asked by Pablo Manriquez of the Midas Touch Network. The same question we asked the other people. How do House Republicans make the case that you're fighting for affordability when you go back to your district? Here's what MAGA Republican Congress member Troy Nels had to say. Play this clip. How do House Republicans make the case that you're fighting for affordability when you go back to your districts?
12:34Affordability? What are you talking about? Well, affordability is the big - I'm going to go to tomorrow. I'm gonna well over the fourth. I'm gonna give me a couple of big lobster tails. I'm gonna get me some nice rib eyes. I'm gonna sit in my backyard with my family, my neighbors. And we're going to be enjoying the fourth celebrating 250 years, the birthday. We're gonna be celebrating the greatest president, my lifetime, Donald J. Trump. Maybe watch some fireworks won't be up here. It's gonna be too hot, right? And I'm in bed 11 o 'clock. I heard the fireworks ain't going off to 11 o 'clock Eastern on the 4th of July.
13:07I probably have to sleep through that. But listen, everybody understands you're going to see a little increase in energy prices because of Iran. I mean, come on, people aren't stupid. You realize that when you have a conflict that ran. But I think in the end, the short term increase in some of the costs of energy, you know, gasoline and stuff is temporary. But President Trump has made it very clear to these companies, don't be gouging, no price gouging. I mean, energy, what oil was at 69 bucks the other day, 70. I mean, prices gotta come down. Take advantage of the American people. To me, it's almost criminal.
13:41You think we're 60 % of Americans. So we gotta do that. We have to do that. And I think that the overall goal and objective is to make sure Iran never has a nuclear weapon. So I'm okay with the, with the, with the increase in fuel, because you knew it was gonna happen with, obviously with oil and the straight and everything. but it's a temporary, it's a temporary issue. You think the 60 % of Americans who are living paycheck to paycheck can afford lobster tails and ribeyes and all of that? Maybe not. Maybe the, maybe the 60 % of America don't work as hard as I do right now. I mean, I don't know.
14:12Ben Meiselas:And then MAGA Republican Congress member Troy Nels wasn't done there yet. He said, what we really need to do in this country is he said, we need to put a big bed sheet over the Statue of Liberty and we need a 10 year moratorium. Put a big sheet over the head of the Statue of Liberty. Here, play this clip. The fact of the matter is this, is that if the American people are truly, truly going to enjoy the 4th of July, right? You have to love our country, number one. You have to love our country. There's a lot of people, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people, can I tell you something? This is what we gotta do.
14:52We got to put a bed sheet, a big bed sheet over the Statue of Liberty. Ten years, ten year moratorium on immigration. No more. We have to get this under control. The amount of people that are in this country, we don't even know who they are. The tens of millions that came through in the previous administration. We don't know who they are. The people over here on visas, you know, you signed a little deal that says, I come over here for five years and then I'm going to believe they're overstaying their visas. The fact that is, we got to have a 10 year moratorium on immigration. So we got to have a freeze, put a bed sheet over the Statue of Liberty.
15:28Why a bed sheet? Instead of having a bed sheet because she's going to go to sleep for a while. She got to go to sleep for a while because we're not letting anybody in anymore. Some people think of bed sheets. We got it. I'm not saying it's dead. What I'm trying to say is, is that instead of having a torch, maybe needs a stop sign. Maybe we need a little bit of a stop sign. Well, so I guess if it was a report card, what grade would you give Donald Trump on affordability? On affordability in A, with everything he's dealing with. He's dealing a lot with the previous administration, too, and all the stupid things that they did.
15:58So, no, I give Donald Trump an A, an A+. I'm celebrating the 4th of July, and the Americans should appreciate the fact we've got the greatest president of my lifetime in the White House, Donald Trump.
16:07Ben Meiselas:What about MAGA Republican Elzey? hey, MAGA Republican Congress member Elsie, what are you going to do for affordability? And then he's like, you're going to have to ask the people who are in charge. It's you. You guys control every branch of government. MAGA Republicans, you control every branch of government. Here, play this clip. Mr. Elsie, how do House Republicans make the case for affordability when you go home to your districts now?
16:37You'll have to ask the people who made this happen, and I'm not one of them. Oh, you have a trifecta.
16:43Ben Meiselas:House Senate and White House. So then we spoke with Democratic Congresswoman Ballant, and we asked her, what did you just make of what the hell just happened? You have all these MAGA Republican Congress members just running out, shutting down the House, shutting down the People's House. What do you make of it? Here play this clip. Congresswoman, what do you make of Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson deciding to cut and run yet again before the week is over? Okay. I have my team total up the number of days that he has sent us home early since I've been in Congress. And it was up to 74 days, but now I got out a few more days.
17:23It's absurd. They wanted all the power and they don't know what to do with it. They can't seem to get a rule passed on the floor. It's an embarrassment, honestly, just an embarrassment. Speaking of embarrassment, what do you think of no one showing up to this 250th anniversary party that Trump has been throwing on the mall? So look, it could have been the most amazing celebration. Amazing. If you did not make it a hyper-partisan event, if you had just continued with the folks who had been working on America 250 to make it something that all Americans could come together around. But no, he had to poison it, which is what he does over and over and over again, just like the Reflect people.
18:07Thank you. Have a good break.
18:09Ben Meiselas:And then bring in J.D. Vance, Mr. Gaslighter himself. And J.D. Vance is like, OK, you know what I really wish I wish we could do? But the Democrats, these these Democrats, they're not going to let this ever happen. I would love to see Democrats and Republicans working together on something like housing, on something like housing affordability. Really? I mean, this is what I mean. I mean, these MAGAs, these J.D. Vances, these vile creatures, they treat people like they're so dumb. The Democrats and the Republicans came together this week, bipartisan housing affordability bill that Donald Trump refused to sign.
18:50Ben Meiselas:That literally took place. But Donald Trump said, it's a big yawn. Why would I support a housing affordability bill? The same way under actually former President Biden's term, the Democrats worked with Republicans under Biden to come up with a bipartisan immigration bill. And Donald Trump ordered all the MAGA Republicans kill that immigration bill. If we solve the problem with compassion, with dignity, and with strong borders all combined, then it could hurt us in the elections, the MAGA said. So we got to kill the immigration bill so we can run on the problem. We got to run on pain and fear. That's literally what happened here.
19:30Ben Meiselas:But listen to what J.D. Vann said play this clip. More momentum in that direction from the Democrat party. Frankly, Laura, I would love it if Democrats were willing, you know, not that they are going to agree with Republicans all the time, but if they were willing to work with us on lowering housing prices, on lowering gas prices, on actually making the lives of American citizens better, you know, we could have some real bipartisan compromise. That's not what they're talking about. They're talking about abolishing the police and letting criminals rule our cities. That is a fundamental transformation in the Democrat Party.
20:02It's very bad for our country. It's bad for Democrats. And it just drives home why we have to keep these people from getting close to power.
20:09Ben Meiselas:But as the MAGA Republicans were leaving and they shut down the house, Steve Scalise, who's basically one of the top MAGA Republicans in the house, other than MAGA Mike, he's basically the top of leadership. He goes, folks, we may be leaving, we may be going home, but we're in a golden age. So everybody's happy and all of our constituents are rich. Gas prices are down 50 cents. Everybody's doing amazing. Here's what he has to say. Play this clip. On the other side, this is a country that's actually experiencing a golden age again. Gas prices are down 50 cents from where they were just a few weeks ago and continuing to go down.
20:46Ben Meiselas:Affordability is back again. And Democrats are upset about that because they wanted it as a talking point for November. And this is the moment where Magamike learned that the Supreme Court found that birthright citizenship is found in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution. And watch what he goes. He goes, well, I guess that's a strict textualist and originalist approach. This is what he says. Play this clip. The jurisdiction of the United States are citizens at birth under the force of the citizenship laws. What's your reaction to that?
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21:24Well, this is real time. I need to read the opinion. Okay. But obviously that's, I mean, you could say that's a textualist, originalist view. However, I do think that this has been grossly abused in recent years. Okay.
21:40Ben Meiselas:And finally, here's Magda Mike when he was asked like, so why didn't Donald Trump sign the housing bill? And Magda Mike's like, you know, he's very busy. He's got a lot going on. Busy guy. I'm going to have to explain it to him. very complicated stuff here. Oh, that's what you're going with? You're playing this clip. The president has a lot going on. And I think it's safe to say he's not read through every line of that piece of legislation. It's a lot to it and a lot of great things. And he and I've spoken about it quite a bit. He understands all the dynamics here, what he was saying and legislation.
22:15But what he was saying is, in comparison to ensuring election integrity, which is now represented by the Save America Act, nothing is as important because you cannot maintain a constitutional republic unless you have free and fair elections. The government of, by, and for the people is ultimately and foundationally dependent upon that. That's what the president is saying. We all agree with that. And by the way, so did the American people. And that's not to say that there are not also incredibly important issues and the cost of living and affordability is among them. It's top of mind. I've spent six hours in the Oval Office in the just in the last few days.
22:49I think four hours on Thursday, over two hours yesterday. We talked about all this in great length. The president certainly understands the importance of affordable housing. As he's noted yesterday, he knows as much about housing as anybody because that, in many respects, was part of his portfolio.
23:05Ben Meiselas:That was, folks, what was going on in the House of Representatives as MAGA Mike Johnson shuts down the House again. Two weeks, it's closed. They don't do work. They're pathetic. Truly the worst. And they're all going home and Troy Nels will have his lobster, whatever the hell he's doing. These people truly hate you. These MAGAs truly hate you. I don't mean, I mean, just being blunt. They hate you. They hate America. They hate this country. They hate your happiness. They hate your family. They hate their haters. They're losers and they're haters. I say that objectively. Hit subscribe. Let me know what you think.
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