Maga Podcasters Turn Against Trump as Approval Plummets

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2:29Ben Meiselas:You know, these MAGA podcasters who sold out their audience to shill for right-wing oligarchs, now they're deeply regretting it. You have Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn and what's that guy, Scholes, and others who were saying, actually what ICE is doing is really bad. Actually, Donald Trump is covering up the Epstein files on Theo Vaughn. They had Bernie Sanders as a guest this past week. I just want to show you as these MAGA Republican podcasters are admitting that they made the worst mistake of their lives. Now, some of these podcasters are worse than others. So I'll try to draw a distinction when possible.

3:10Ben Meiselas:But first, I'll show you the most MAGA of them all, the deepest betrayal of them all, I think, to his listeners, Joe Rogan. You know, and it's always interesting to me, because I'm always being told, you're like the left's Joe Rogan. I'm like, I'm not the freaking left's Joe Rogan. I would never want to be anything like this guy at all. I just want to be the Midas Touch podcast that stands up for humanity, that fights for empathy, that wants to restore democracy and freedom. It's just that simple to me. But anyway, here's Joe Rogan this past week talking about the epstein files here let's play this clip well it's gonna go on for a long time i suspect i mean they said they released them but what did they release no they're still not all out yet what are they released yeah like it's we the whole thing's weird it reminds me it reminds me of that onion article where they're like oh cia really realizes they've been using a black highlighter this entire time like it's like that it's like oh okay you just just blacked out pages redacted the shit out of everything yeah yeah it's like what did they release did they release something recently no they haven't released anything in a minute they had that initial release where everything was blacked out and it was that picture of winnie the pooh which is hilarious but isn't there talk about some new releases that are happening soon have they it feels like everything's been drowned out by everything else been going on with like somali uh the somalians and the ice shooting it feels like that's completely drowned out anything about it.

4:33I think some of that's on purpose. Oh, 100%.

4:36Ben Meiselas:And then you had Andrew Scholes this past week saying that he doesn't like how ICE is covering up their face. He's like, they got the shiesty on. It's insane what these ICE officers are doing in the streets. They're terrorizing and torturing people, Andrew. They are terrorizing and torturing communities like terrorists, like the Gestapo, like the SS. And sadly, what you were doing before as a podcaster, enabled this to happen. Weren't you all supposed to be like the don't tread on me crowd? This Trump regime is exactly like authoritarian regimes across the globe, whether it's Putin or Kim Jong Un or Saudi Arabia or the Ayatollah in Iran.

5:20Ben Meiselas:Trump is like them. Play this clip of Shoals. Let's play it. This is why all these people need their names on their badges. Because now you're getting people mixed up in the crosshairs. Talk to me. Because apparently they're not named. Apparently they don't have... They got the shyesties on. Exactly. It's insane. It is insane. It's a tough look. Because we don't see it in New York, we're somewhat detached from it. New Yorkers would not be going with this shit at all. That happening on Canal. And we weren't with that shit. No, Canal's fine, but they wouldn't be fine with that happening. Canal, we gotta clean some stuff up.

6:02Ben Meiselas:And then you have Senator Bernie Sanders on the Theo Vaughn podcast. And Senator Sanders, let's listen to what he had to say. And Theo Vaughn's like, I agree, Bernie. I agree. Trump has authoritarian energy. Authoritarian energy, Theo. You're almost there. He is an authoritarian, Period. Here, play this clip. What Trump is using ICE for now is a domestic military operation. And it's part of this intimidation. And if you stand up and that woman in Minnesota, Good is her name? Yeah, Renee Good. Renee Good. All right. I saw that video. You don't shoot somebody in the head who is in that car. And I think it's Trump saying, I have the power and we got domestic army.

6:51It's called ICE and we're going to go out there and we're going to arrest and we're going to intimidate. And part of that is what Trumpism is about. It's intimidation. All right. You're in the media. You're CBS. You say something. I'm going to sue you. You know, Theo, you say something I don't like. I may sue you. You know, in I don't like Venezuela. I'm going to send in the troops. I got the power and I'm going to use it. I really that scares me because that's what authoritarianism is about. So do we should we deal with immigration through comprehensive reform? Absolutely. I think that's what the American people want.

7:26Do we want guys with masks around their face, dragging people out of their apartments, out of their cars? You know, I don't think so. I don't think that's what the American people want. Yeah. More and more resentment to that. and we're in a tough spot too because we see things more now right we see all of it yes we see it so before you would just hear about her you would knew it was a plan that's right you didn't have the visual effect of it and how the visual effect makes you feel cell phones have revolutionized politics and that's everybody got a cell phone can take a and i think there's that's

7:57Ben Meiselas:one of the side effects it likes to like i agree like trump has an authoritarian energy right back to joe rogan here who says you know what ice is doing they're like effing shooting a lady It seems like kind of crazy, man. Yeah, murder is crazy, Joe Rogan. We understand that terrorizing communities is crazy, Joe Rogan. Sending people to concentration camp. Yeah, man, it's kind of crazy, dude. Kidnapping five-year-olds and two-year-olds. Yeah, man, that's kind of a little bit crazy. Listen to what Rogan says here. Play this clip. But then it's also like, yeah, what ICE is doing, like fucking shooting that lady seems kind of crazy.

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10:13Ben Meiselas:I want to show you one more clip of Bernie Sanders on Theo Vaughn. Let's play this clip right here. This stuff is moving very, very quickly. It is being pushed by the wealthiest people in the world, who, in my view, could care less about ordinary people who want more wealth and more power. Now, they deny all that stuff. That's my view. I think we've got to slow it down and ask the question that you asked. All right. If AI can, and it can, do some good medical diagnoses, do some good blood testing, is that a good thing? It is a good thing. If you're working in a crap job in a factory, right? You know, and AI can increase worker productivity.

10:56So you could work 20 hours a week rather than 40 hours a week. Is that a good thing? I think it is, et cetera, et cetera. Right. If the company then shares some of the profits that the company is making with the workers. So that's the issue. It's a very simple proposition. Who is AI and robotics going to work for? Does it work to improve human life or does it work to make the billionaires even richer. That's the question that we've got to focus on.

11:21Ben Meiselas:Yeah. You know, now someone who's more of a right wing podcaster, I would say he's less MAGA and more right wing. But here's Tim Dillon and Tim Dillon said, you know, these are clumsy, insane, over the top deportations. Play this clip. When you have this clumsy, you know, kind of somewhat insane over the top deportations, people are looking at this and going, you know, and this is, what did they use, this Sabrina Carpenter song? Yeah. Play this. Let's see.

12:09It's unserious. It's unserious. It's childish. childish. It's cruel. I think one of the problems with whatever the MAGA movement has evolved into is it's duped their hardcore followers so much that the only thing left now is performative cruelty.

12:24Ben Meiselas:And Tim Dillon went after Barry Weiss and CBS for their total capitulation. Play this clip. Now, Barry Weiss, friend of the show, is the editor in chief of CBS News. And Barry is running that news company into the ground at a pace and a rate that even surprises me. I'm even shocked. It is a 1990s slapstick comedy. How Barry Weiss is failing over there. By the way, it's unbelievable. And then Tim Dillon talked about how these ice raids are so bad and so crazy. listen to what he has to say here let's play this one and some of these ice raids are so barbaric and they're so crazy and these like 19 year old college students are being deported to honduras and they've lived there their whole life again it's wrong on its face like it shouldn't be happening in the chaotic insane way that it's happening it's you know when you look at someone a grandmother get handcuffed and zip tied and thrown into a car by a bunch of masked psychopaths.

13:40Ben Meiselas:Not only is that wrong and more right here on Joe Rogan saying the quiet part out loud. Let me play this clip. Then they start showing up at Home Depot instead of like looking for gang bangers, looking for criminals and cartel members. They go to whatever's easiest pickings so they can get numbers up. There's a do you know, Ed Calderon, do you know who he is? he's uh he worked uh he was a mexican military guy who uh now is an american citizen but he reports extensively on the cartels and just was telling me some horror stories about ice raids and one of them was they took this guy who'd been brought over here when he was a baby but didn't have american citizenship his family you know came over here illegally lived here for 20 years can't speak spanish they deport him send him to tijuana can't speak spanish can't speak spanish does not speak spanish he is essentially an american citizen he just never lived anywhere else he just doesn't have the paperwork he's not a criminal they sent him over to tijuana and now he has to live in mexico he he doesn't know what the fuck to do he's on the streets.

14:55There's no idea. It doesn't have any money.

14:57Ben Meiselas:And then finally, let me show one more clip of Tim Dillon saying, I don't believe the cop was justified in doing the shooting. Here, play this clip. I don't believe the cop was justified in shooting her three times in the face. By the way, I've always believed this. And this is something that I've caught heat for, but I've literally believed it since I'm a kid. I don't believe you should ever shoot someone in the face more than once i've no seriously i think i just think it's ridiculous so that they did that and they you know the guy these are these are not well-trained law enforcement people in ice right now we're taking people that did backyard wrestling i i mean we are the people that are in ice right now or i mean this is your cousin who like was in backyard wrestling like this is tough this is not the cream of the crop you know the guys that kidnapped maduro like delta force navy seals this is not them this is not the delta force navy seal people this is people that like had this is people in their third grade report card the teacher wrote that has violent tendencies you know i mean this is not it just is what it is yeah i mean they're all having this awakening now i mean maybe it's because the midas touch network's the number one podcast in the country right now because we've stood on our values and principles we didn't waver in our values and our principles we're fighting for the people we're fighting for the general strike that took place in minnesota Dakota, we're standing on behalf of democracy.

16:45Ben Meiselas:Maybe that's why, maybe that's where the people are and maybe you shouldn't betray the people. Anyway, hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. Let's subscribe to our audio podcast as well. And thanks so much for watching.

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