MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 2/20/26

23:48Jordy Meiselas:And Brett, of course, right, no one reached out to Wexner from the DOJ. We're witnessing an active cover-up. We're witnessing a cover-up in progress right now. It's so Donald Trump has so weaponized the government in ways that go well beyond anything we've seen. This is what I'm saying. Like, this is what we have to just force the accountability here. Any time Donald Trump's name is mentioned going forward at any conversation, it should be immediately followed with his association with Jeffrey Epstein and the cover up of the Epstein files. It is damning if that is not the case. It needs to be on the tip of tongue of anybody who ever utters his name.

24:28Yeah.

24:30Ben Meiselas:Also, as we're trying to search for accountability, right, you have a truth commission that's been formed in New Mexico. Epstein had this ranch that he bought in 1993 from a former governor of New Mexico because Epstein rubbed shoulders with business leaders, governors, royalty, et cetera. So he got this ranch. It's about a 27 ,000 square foot ranch on 10 ,000 acres. It's in Santa Fe in a city called Stanley. And we know from the files, there may be, we know that there were some of the most horrific acts of sex trafficking, sexual torture, and potentially murder that was being committed there, potentially bodies being buried in the area.

25:16Ben Meiselas:There's some allegations of that. We know that there was a lot of the sex trafficking took place there. No search warrants executed, no subpoenas. The FBI showed up there in 2006, 2007 in connection with the West Palm Beach investigation. And then they were speaking with the house managers who started talking about how Epstein would fly in with helicopters with these girls, and he would say they were masseuses. And then the FBI met the house managers at the office area. And then the house managers got a call from main office, Epstein, saying, don't speak with the FBI. And the FBI just left. There was no further investigation there.

26:00Ben Meiselas:Right around 2019, right after Epstein's death, we see correspondence in the files from the DOJ telling the New Mexico AG not to do an investigation into sex trafficking. It literally says, do not investigate sex trafficking. We're going to handle that. And then that was never handled at all. And now we know that the Zorro Ranch was purchased in 2023 by a guy named Don Huffines. He's a MAGA Republican. He's a big Trumper, this guy, Don Huffines. The Huffine family made its money a few generations back in the automobile dealership industry. Don Huffine's son, Russell, young guy in his 20s or so, but has a senior type position within the current Trump regime.

26:54Ben Meiselas:Don Huffines purchased the Zorro Ranch mysteriously in 2023 using an LLC called San Rafael as the LLC. Well, yesterday or two days ago, Don Huffines, right after this truth commission was announced that was going to do investigations into the ranch, and there's a lot of interest in the ranch. Don Huffines goes on OAN to do an interview with Matt Gaetz, who was found by the House Ethics Committee with substantial evidence that he engaged in underage sex, which I call rape, which you should do, underage sex, in the House Ethics Report. And you have Gaetz interviewing Huffines, and Huffines saying that he's now turning Zorro Ranch into a Christian retreat for children.

27:50Ben Meiselas:And that construction's already underway now. So they've already got the bulldozers there, everybody. They're turning Epstein's Zorro Ranch into a Christian retreat because now he says he wanted to buy this property because he knew how bad it was. And he was doing this for Jesus. Out of the goodness of his heart and for Jesus, amen. He had to buy Epstein's ranch because he had to make it good because the devil was there. And so that's why he wanted to buy this, to turn it into a Christian retreat. I kid you not. Watch with this MAGA guy who's running for state comptroller. Mind you, he was a Texas state senator.

28:31Ben Meiselas:He visited Moscow in 2018 to try to promote relations with Putin back in 20, he's one of those maggots. Here, play this clip. Now you have plans to take something

28:42Brett Meiselas:evil and bring it into goodness, bring it into light and positivity. Tell us about that plan. Well, of course, that is the main reason I bought the property. This was obviously a dark place and we wanted to put light in a dark place. It always shines the brightest when you do that. My faith is so strong in Jesus, and it really is. And I'm going to make this. The plan all along is to make this property into a Christian retreat. As a matter of fact, it's under construction today. And that's our goal. That's why we named it St. Raphael. We named St. Raphael, as you probably know, an archangel. and what he does and helps people with is healing and being the healer and also blessing those that are traveling.

29:32Brett Meiselas:And we think that's really germane to this property.

29:35Ben Meiselas:You think we're stupid.

29:37Jordy Meiselas:You just think we're pretty stupid, huh? That's kind of what you think. I've never seen more red flags in my life in a statement. That's bonkers. And obviously it's all exacerbated by the fact that he's talking to freaking Matt Gaetz. And, you know, I think I just have to emphasize that this guy Huffines is like he's a big Trumper, big time MAGA guy, very close to Trump. I mean, this is a guy who would be at the Trump rallies. There's clips of him at the Trump rallies throughout the campaigns. He's been with Trump for a very long time. These are these are inner circle people. And so when I see somebody in Trump's inner circle who buys the Epstein property and then that's his excuse, every warning sign is blaring for me, blaring for me.

30:19Jordy Meiselas:And then when you see the Kush treatment that his son is getting by getting this White House gig, so the son's previous job before becoming the associate director of agency outreach for the White House, which is like a pretty big position to get in the White House, right? His previous job was he was an owner of Boom Bazaar Fireworks in Dallas-Fort Worth. Boom Bazaar Fireworks. So the Boom Bazaar Fireworks store to associate director of agency outreach in the White House pipeline. That's not suspicious.

30:50Ben Meiselas:That's nice. But they're turning it into Brett. Archangels and Jesus and light and the Bible. For the kids? Come on. I bought this for this. He's talking to Matt Gaetz. He's talking to Gaetz. Matt Gaetz. But all right, we've got a lot more to discuss. A quick reminder, make sure you hit subscribe. You see how close we are to 6 million subscribers. Let's try to hit it before the State of the Union. I think there's a shot that we can do it. Let's get to 6 million subscribers this week. One way you can help this network too is after you watch this, just go and text message five to 10 friends that you know and say, hey, they're very close to 6 million.

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35:55Ben Meiselas:Where to? when I saw that clip of Don Huffines, what's the kid's place? What was the name that he was called? Bizarre fireworks or something. Bizarre boom, bizarre fireworks or something. You know, but I think of him. I think of Gates. I think of Les Wexner. I think of all these people. I mean, do you remember when Donald Trump a few months back was asked about the Epstein files and the release and everything that was happening? This was a few months back. I remember Howard Lutnick was standing right behind Trump as well. So as Trump's lying through his teeth and also like demeaning the survivors and people who are saying to release these files and we need transparency, you had Howard Lutnick who was like, I just want you to visually watch this because this is what the Epstein class thinks of you in every regard.

36:45Ben Meiselas:And for those on audio, listening on audio, it's Howard Lutnick who's like, his shoulders keep going up, but he's like laughing hysterically in the back as Donald Trump is covering up the Epstein files from a few months ago. And of course, we know that Lutnick was giving interviews where he's been lying to people and saying that he only met Epstein once in 2005, even though he purchased his townhouse from Epstein. By the way, both townhouses were originally owned by Les Wexner. They were Les Wexner's homes. So Lutnick and Epstein lived in Les Wexner's homes, basically and Epstein took it over for himself and then sold Wexner's home to Lutnick.

37:29Ben Meiselas:Do you see how this all is?

37:30Jordy Meiselas:Wasn't there something in the files too with Lutnick's home that said Lutnick bought this multi-million dollar home for like 10 bucks or something and that there were allegations that it's like some sort of money laundering front or whatever crimes they were potentially committing

37:47Ben Meiselas:Let's just take a look at Lutnick here. Let's play this clip

37:55Brett Meiselas:I don't know. I could ask you that question. I don't know of it, but I don't know. I could ask you that question.

38:09Ben Meiselas:Just very weird behavior to like what's so funny. I don't even understand the joke.

38:13Jordy Meiselas:For the audio listeners, he was audibly cracking up in the background. As if it was the funniest thing he's ever heard. Like uncontrollably laughing.

38:21Ben Meiselas:And the question was, there have been stories that you and your cabinet are having an emergency meeting to try to block the release of the Epstein files. And this was when the discharge petition was being circulated. And they were trying to figure out how they could pressure Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene to withdraw their names. And you had Howard Lutnick there laughing like it was the most hilarious things. And that's when, and Trump still says, it's a hoax. It's all one big democratic hoax. And it's like, not only is it not a hoax, you see what's happening with Andrew Montbutton in the UK.

38:59Ben Meiselas:You see what's happening with Poland creating a truth commission there. You see what's happening around the entire world where there's accountability coming. So this is not, you know, just think about what has already happened as a result of these files. And now imagine what's in the millions and millions of documents that they haven't produced. That they're still covering up millions and tens of millions of documents that are worse than what has been produced.

39:30Jordy Meiselas:Because just think about all the lies that we've already heard from these people. They're all like go by the same script, right? We saw Lutnick in that New York Post interview a few months back where he was like, I knew the guy was disgusting the moment I saw him and I never spoke with him again. Then the Epstein files are released and Lutnick's going to the island with his family. There are conversations about, oh, we're going to send Lutnick's nanny's resume to you, Jeffrey Epstein, even though you don't have any children. I don't know why you need Lutnick's nanny, but Epstein was getting Lutnick's nanny and Lutnick was sending information about his nanny to Epstein.

40:06Jordy Meiselas:And then they're forced to admit that their relationship was even deeper than it was, but they still go, oh, but I was conned. It was, I didn't know, you know, how could I have possibly known? He was a guy who was friends with everybody. And you see that pattern with like everybody, right? Elon Musk was like, Donald Trump is in the files when he was mad at Trump. I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And then it's like, okay, you've released the files and the files are like, Mr. Epstein, please let me come to the island. I really need to go. What are your wildest parties, Mr. Epstein? I really need to let loose.

40:38Jordy Meiselas:And then the guy still denies it. But these people keep getting caught in these lies. They keep trying to act like they're victims. And then the more information that comes out, the more it shows that they actively pursued this relationship with Epstein. They actively wanted to go to the island. They wanted to engage in whatever behaviors they engaged with Epstein. They loved the secrets that they shared with Epstein. You start seeing all of these things and you realize they're all going by the same script here. And they're all using the same sort of language to try to cover up this behavior. Absolutely.

41:08Jordy Meiselas:And you also see the progression here, too. So at first, they're the heroes of the story. Lutnick, oh, he was disgusting. I distanced myself from him right away. I smelled it on him. Trump, oh, Trump was an FBI informant. He wasn't friends with Jeffrey. No way. He was trying to figure out what was happening. That's why he's in the Epstein files a million plus times they're so disingenuous and once they realize that that that narrative because of the files to date that have been released totally blow that narrative up that they were the heroes in the story well now they they pretend that that it's not a big deal oh i've been completely vindicated by all the materials that have come out what are you talking about i don't want to i don't want to answer questions from this it's not a big deal to me it again it is so disgusting and there There should never be a time when Donald Trump's name is mentioned again, where you don't immediately associate the connection with Jeffrey Epstein forever, for eternity.

42:05Jordy Meiselas:That needs to be this guy's legacy of who he is at his core.

42:09Ben Meiselas:Look, here's Donald Trump on Air Force One when he was asked about, the question was, should there be accountability in the United States that we're seeing internationally? And then Trump answered it by saying he feels bad for Andrew and Andrew's family. Here, play this clip.

42:28Brett Meiselas:That was not a good one, Peter. What do you think? I got a question about something big overseas today. The former Prince Andrew arrested by the police there related to something with Jeffrey Epstein. Do you think people in this country at some point, associates of Jeffrey Epstein, will wind up in handcuffs too? Well, you know, I'm the expert in a way because I've been totally exonerated. That's very nice. I can actually speak about it very nicely. I think it's a shame. I think it's very sad. I think it's so bad for the royal family. It's a very, very sad to me. It's a very sad thing. When I see that, it's a very sad thing to see it and to see what's going on with his brother, who's obviously coming to our country very soon.

43:09Brett Meiselas:And he's a fantastic man, the king. So I think it's a very sad thing. It's really interesting because nobody used to speak about Epstein when he was alive, but now they speak. But I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated. I did nothing. In fact, the opposite. He was against me. He was fighting me in the election, which I just found out through the last three million pages of documents. Yeah, please. Yeah.

43:34Ben Meiselas:OK, I mean, it's a demented response. He's obviously not vindicated. the fact that he doesn't show a scintilla of support for the survivors and that he feels bad for Andrew and the royal family. And then he says that he's an expert and that he can talk about this nicely. What does it even mean you can talk, you can talk about a sex trafficking ring nicely? I don't even understand. I don't understand the expression. What does that mean nicely? Right. I mean, again, just a demented individual.

44:01Jordy Meiselas:I feel bad for Prince Andrew, Ghislaine Maxwell. I wish her well. It's never a word of sympathy about the victims. It's always feeling bad for the perpetrators every time.

44:11Ben Meiselas:Yeah, because that's who he identifies with. That's the Epstein class right there in action. And we're showing you multiple data points of how they protect themselves. And what do they use? They use Epstein class media, state regime media, and then they muddy the waters. And they, again, they treat everybody like they're stupid. They're like, Donald Trump, Trump. His name is on there like Whoopi Goldberg. It's just everybody's name is on this thing. So what are we even talking about here? It's Trump and Whoopi. They didn't do anything. Also, the Whoopi Goldberg reference is very Trump's obsessed with Whoopi Goldberg also.

44:49Ben Meiselas:Anyway, here play this clip.

44:50Brett Meiselas:It's very hard to know because very little is reported, but there are athletes leaving, for example, on almost a daily basis, the Endeavor Agency, because of relationship apparently between its founder Casey Wasserman and Jeffrey Epstein. There's the Victoria's Secret CEO, Les Wexner, who has a very deep relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. There's former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, who spent a number, number of nights at Jeffrey Epstein's home in New York City. So how do we do it, Hugo? How do we parse simple affiliations that may include the likes of Whoopi Goldberg or Donald Trump and the real wrongdoers in their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?

45:25Ben Meiselas:The way people have been doing it forever. And also, these get the most basic facts wrong. Wasserman, not that it matters. I mean, it does, I guess, if you're Endeavor and you're being accused of that. But Wasserman's the Wasserman firm. Like, I don't even know who writes these things. Like, who puts these slop scripts in front of him? Endeavor is a different agency than Wasserman. Like the way you deal with things, Will Kane, is you look at the facts of things and you research them and you read them and then you show evidence and you show facts and you investigate. That's kind of the way, who knows how you do anything?

46:02Ben Meiselas:How are we even here? I mean, it's the dumbest questions in the world. And then if you just want to see what else is going on in that Will Kane show, they keep on talking about like the like penises and vaginas and bisexual and are you bisexual are you gay are you not gay i mean like again like with everything going on they have they have just watch will kane brings in this guest and they're like do i have this clip do you do not have this clip because it's it's a weird build-up if we don't have the clip it's a wild build-up i was like i don't know if I have this one, but where it says stop scrolling.

46:39Ben Meiselas:You're not bisexual, by the way. It's a lot of girls that are calling themselves bisexual and start. I'm just going to have to assume you made this one up.

46:49Jordy Meiselas:I don't see it.

46:51Ben Meiselas:Moving, moving on. You're going to have to trust me on this one. But that clip doesn't exist, Ben.

46:56Jordy Meiselas:For the record, I know what you're talking about. OK, I don't need to show it. I think I think Ben is making this up right now. No, I'm not.

47:03Ben Meiselas:In any event, Donald Trump, though, do we have the one where Donald Trump says that Barack Obama breached classified documents by saying aliens are real? Yeah, I got that one. I'll play that right now.

47:17Brett Meiselas:I would love to have China and Russia. They've been invited. Yeah. You need both. You need all persuasions. No discrimination. Something that got a lot of attention this week, Barack Obama said that aliens are real. Have you seen any evidence of non-human visitors to Earth? Well, he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. So aliens are real? Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I can tell you he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information. No, I don't have an opinion on it. I never talk about it.

47:54Brett Meiselas:A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it. Do you believe it, Peter?

47:59Ben Meiselas:Well, the president can declassify anything that he wants to.

48:04Brett Meiselas:I may get him out of trouble by declassifying. We know illegal aliens. Yeah, illegal. Only illegals. What else?

48:11Ben Meiselas:Like objectively, that's a demented human being. So stupid. He made a big mistake there by revealing classified information. I mean, Donald Trump, literally the guy who stole classified information, nuclear secrets, put it in his ballroom at Mar-a-Lago. right? The guy who loves his ballrooms, had the classified information in the ballroom and showers, then obstructed justice, then had his own judge, Judge Eileen Cannon, dismissed the case, claiming that the very idea of special prosecutors doesn't exist under our Constitution. The idea of special prosecutors isn't a thing despite there being special prosecutors everywhere else, right?

48:48Ben Meiselas:There are special prosecutors who investigate everything from my rant contra to Hunter Biden, right? But when it comes to Donald Trump stealing classified information, the idea of a special prosecutor doesn't exist. You know, when I think about accountability, though, also, I also think about how our despicable Supreme Court is really responsible for a lot of this too. And they're in the Epstein class, those right six, those six right wing Supreme Court justices who, I mean, they're, they're the best way to think about them is they are protectors of the Epstein class. I mean, just think about it this way.

49:25Ben Meiselas:Our constitution was created as an objection to kings, no kings, right? That's the very, the declaration of our independence to our constitution. The main principle was no kings, no absolute immunity, right? Yet our Supreme Court invented a concept called absolute immunity for Donald Trump. Why? Because they're protectors of the Epstein class. What do you think protectors of the Epstein class would want to create for themselves? The equivalent of a invincible cloak, right? Remember from the movie, invincible cloaks. They create absolute immunity and say, that's what was really intended in the Constitution.

50:08Ben Meiselas:Well, even in the UK where they have actual royalty, they strip the royalty of their royal titles and then criminally prosecute him where there's real royalty. And in the United States, which was created as an objection to royalty with no absolute immunity, we create this fiction. In Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro is in prison for 27 years. In South Korea, President Yoon is now in prison for the rest of his life. But yet in the United States, I saw somebody post this. I'll try to find the tweet or the Blue Sky post. But in the United States, while all of that accountability is happening, Donald Trump sues his own government, our government, the IRS, for$10 billion that the taxpayers have to give Donald Trump$10 billion.

50:59Ben Meiselas:Right? I mean, that just goes to show you, Scott Shapiro, how sick and broken our system is right now. All right, play that Fox clip, though, of Will Cain, so people just don't think I've lost my mind. Please, just play the clip.

51:11Jordy Meiselas:You made it up. I hate to play it. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'll play the clip. I think we're on the right track.

51:17Brett Meiselas:Stop scrolling. Stop looking at porn. You're not bisexual. By the way, you pointed this out, Link, in your pre-interview. It's a lot of girls, a lot of white girls that are calling themselves bisexual. And start making mistakes, according to Link Lauren.

51:30Jordy Meiselas:Good to see you, Link. Thanks for being here. Great to see you, Link. See you soon. All right. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut on that one.

51:36Ben Meiselas:Yeah, it's a good idea. Never a good thing. I'm baiting you, Brad. But so all that's going on, I'm not going to show a ton of clips of Trump at this Board of Peace thing because it's absolutely ridiculous. But suffice to say, authoritarian regime showed up. No European Union country other than Hungary. Viktor Orban, who's trying to destroy the European Union, showed up. And Orban acknowledges, why am I the only one here? Because no one wants to be associated with this thing at all. Donald Trump's like, and we're going to oversee the United Nations. Like, no, you're not. talking about. Trump was like falling asleep during it.

52:13Ben Meiselas:And then he was spending most of his time whining about the escalator shutting down, that the escalator didn't work at the United Nations a few months back or whenever the speech was. It was September, October, September. The escalator stopped working. And then - Still talking about that, eh? Melani had a - I was talking about it earlier. I was like, I'm thinking about like something that happened to me today where I went to a bubbleologist for my 16-month-old girl. What's a bubbleologist? went to a bubbleologist at the local library and i was driving her there and we got there and uh are we supposed to know what that is a bubbleologist yeah what's about i didn't want to

52:50Jordy Meiselas:say anything in case it was like a medical thing is it a known this is a known thing like oh of course i went to the bubbleologist earlier went to the local

53:01Jordy Meiselas:bubbleologist this morning bubbleologist right here i don't know what this is are those balloons Ben's holding up his phone like as if Ben is showing us his phone which is really Ben your phone is blurry I see the back of a person's head your phone is filthy can you see the bubbles? no I can't see I don't know are they blowing bubbles? I think I see somebody in spandex oh okay so they're doing like cool big bubbles got it obviously the bubbleologist bro see you come to this show you learn some unexpected information that you didn't know you were going to learn when you came in And it's like, yeah, so like it was, you know, like a normal Thursday.

53:39Jordy Meiselas:I went to the bubbleologist. Of course, yeah.

53:46Ben Meiselas:I was driving to the bubbleologist today with McKenna, and there was no parking spots available. And so I parked. Common bubbleologist issues. And so I was told there was going to be parking. So I parked across the street at the nearby shopping center. But imagine like a year from now, right, just randomly on the show, like that that story sticks in my mind though i'm like and there was no parking and they screwed me over i mean that's trump talking dude the escalator shut off okay get over it man like i think the

54:17Jordy Meiselas:story is actually going to stick with us for a very long time the bubble here play play this play

54:22Brett Meiselas:this clip my last speech they did turn off my teleprompter i got up there my teleprompter didn't work i'm sitting in front of all of you people and more i had no teleprompter i knew i was in trouble because I'm walking up you know the teleprompters are all behind the most beautiful speech ready and I was all set to knock him dead first I had an escalator that stopped you know that it's going up boom it's lucky my movie star first lady was in front of me because I put my hand on a certain part of her body and I was able to stop my fall otherwise because she had no trouble. I said, boy, that was a very sharp stop, Johnny.

55:05Brett Meiselas:So I said, that was strange. I've been on a lot of escalators. It's never happened before. Usually it stops very slowly. This was just boom. But our first lady was right in the proper location for me. I'm waving to people and she was holding on a little tighter. She knew what was happening.

55:25Ben Meiselas:Jordy got too excited about the bubble. Jordy's gotten dark. Jordy's gotten dark. The bubbleologist strikes again right there for Jordy. Can we just show the incident that he keeps talking about, though, just for a moment? It's like two seconds, the thing shuts off, then he walks up the steps. This is the event that has traumatized him. With everything that's going on in the world, it's this.

55:48Jordy Meiselas:You're going to push it and stop peace, President Trump. There's Trump walking up the steps. The escalator is at the UN, and the escalator stops.

56:07Jordy Meiselas:and he goes back up the steps. I mean, that's just, I mean, nothing happened. And I think, remember it came out also that the reason why he stopped. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't like you making fun of his bubbleology and, uh, he takes his bubbleology seriously. I remember it came out also that it was like a Trump staffer's fault that they like the cameraman or something ran ahead and triggered like the emergency stop and that's why the things stopped like the fact that he's still talking about it but that's the thing about this maga movement that's why all this talk about you know when they try to be like oh yeah we're alpha we're this or that the whole movement is based on them pretending to be victims and then whining about everything because it's part

56:44Ben Meiselas:of epstein class mentality they victimize it's it's human psychologists it's sick but they victimize people and their shield is to perpetually play victim on everything well yeah and that's how

56:56Jordy Meiselas:They justify their actions also. You know, I'm the victim. So now look what you made me do. Look, I had to do it because you did this to me. I had to. You gave me no other choice. It's kind of the same thing with every sort of situation. All right.

57:10Ben Meiselas:Let's take our last quick break of the show. When we come back, more talks on bubbleology, bubbleologists, bubbleism. We'll talk about that in more. No, in all seriousness, when we come back, we'll talk about some other critical issues facing our country. reminder the amidas touch network is hosting the official boycott of the state of the union address go and uh check it out um we now we have commitments from about 20 members of the house of representatives and senators yeah it feels like every minute we're getting buzzed with

57:43Jordy Meiselas:like new people who are telling us they're boycotting i want to join this so check it out it's going to be tuesday the night of the state of the union at 8 p.m eastern five 8 p.m is it 8 p.m. Eastern? Yeah, it's going to be on the Midas Touch YouTube channel. So be sure to check it out there.

57:59Ben Meiselas:We're almost at 6 million subscribers, y 'all. Let's hit it. Let's hit it this week. All right, let's take our last quick break of the show.

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1:00:53Ben Meiselas:The Epstein class, man.

1:00:55Jordy Meiselas:Wait, wait, wait. Real quick. Lutnik, I can't describe it. He looks like the Joker from The Dark Knight. Doesn't this look just like Lutnik for the video viewers? Everyone's saying yes in the chat. I see it. I see it. Absolutely. I was like thinking, I'm like, who does he remind me of? The bank robbing scene in the dark night when the Joker was wearing the mask. To be clear to the audio listeners, this isn't like what the Joker just looks like normally. This is a mask the Joker wears. The mask that he's wearing in the dark night as he robs the bank with the hair kind of like slicked back. And it looks just like Lutnick.

1:01:30Ben Meiselas:Let's get into it. Epstein class continues. Over here, Labor Secretary Laurie Chavez de Rehmer's husband has now been barred from entering the Labor Department headquarters. The one that has Donald Trump's image all over it. By the way, Trump has put his image all over the Department of Justice building today. There's a massive billboard with Donald Trump's face on it right over the DOJ. Nothing says impartial justice like having Donald Trump's fascist face on the DOJ building, the Department of Labor. But I digress. Lori Chavez-Daremer's husband has apparently been barred, according to New York Times, from entering the Labor Department headquarters after two female staffers accused him of sexual assaults inside the building, according to New York Times.

1:02:18Ben Meiselas:One alleged incident was captured on security cameras and is now part of a criminal investigation. There's also an internal investigation regarding Lori Chavez de Reimer using taxpayer dollars to go to Vegas and travel around the country and gallivant. There's allegations that she's having an affair with her staffers as well, that she has been engaged in drinking and all this other horrible conduct that has been taking place there. And I mean, I could pretty much go to any cabinet level position and kind of, you know, just over the past. Better know your cabinet members, Lori Chavez de Reamer under internal investigation.

1:03:05Ben Meiselas:By the way, the person who's doing who's conducting the investigation of her was accused of having affairs with people in the congressional office before he was voted out of the office as well. That's who Trump's appointed to basically conduct internal investigations there. While Lori Chavez, Deremer's husband, is banned from the office because the sexual assault and sexual assaults were allegedly captured on video camera. Better get to know your cabinet members when Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is not terrorizing and torturing Americans with ICE and Border Patrol mass Gestapo.

1:03:40Ben Meiselas:She's flying around in a$70 million jet paid for by the taxpayers that's currently on a lease. But she's demanding that the Office of Management and Budget purchase this executive jet for her. It features a bedroom with a queen bed, showers, a kitchen, four large flat screen TVs, and even a bar. And it's widely reported that she travels with Corey Lewandowski, who people say she's having an affair with. That's widely reported and being discussed and alleged out there. And so as our editor-in-chief posted, the Lewandowski suite at the DHS Mile High Club. And that's the bed,$70 million for this state-of-the-art private jet that taxpayers are paying for, while she and her boyfriend apparently go city to city, torturing Americans.

1:04:30Ben Meiselas:Better get to know your cabinet members. While the United States is on the eve of going to war with Iran, as we have two aircraft carrier groups, the Gerald Ford Carrier Strike Group and the Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group, along with tons of air assets, naval assets, multiple other Navy ships. And while it appears we may be entering into a protracted war that no one is really even talking about, What is Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth doing? Well, he's with Dr. Oz climbing trees together. Here are some photos of them on a play date together. Here, Dr. Oz says, here we are for our beach side brunch, and we're Mediterranean feasting together.

1:05:11Ben Meiselas:That's what they're posting. I'm not even going to play for you the cringy Hegseth videos where he is lifting weights. and I'm not going to play the weird Kid Rock RFK Jr. videos where they are.

1:05:25Jordy Meiselas:I just never knew when fascism came to the United States. It'd be so freaking lame. What are those photos? Like a play date is actually the best way to describe whatever the heck that was. You know, it's always an interesting thing. Like having to explain this weird stuff to people who aren't consumed by it, like we are. We were going through like Instagram or TikTok last night, my wife and I, And she, the Kid Rock video with RFK Jr. came up of them with their shirts off, like going into, with RFK going into like a cold plunge with his jeans on and them like in a sauna together and all the weirds.

1:06:01Jordy Meiselas:And she was like, oh, this is like an AI video or something. I'm like, no, this is a legitimate video that the United States government put out on their official accounts. I don't, I can tell you why. But you could do this better know a cabinet member thing with RfK Jr., right, as well, with his relationship, we could say, with Olivia Nuzzi. Like, one after the next, after the next, after the next, like, all these people are engaging in very kind of similar behavior while they act holier than thou. And I'll just end it.

1:06:33Ben Meiselas:I mean, you could go RFK Jr. I mean, there were warnings on the Department of Health website telling parents, if you have children with autism, do not give them bleach because they could die. And there were a lot of these quacks like RFK Jr. saying, give your kids bleach, it'll stop their autism. And whether it's raw camel milk or chlorine dioxide, lots of people being very predatory on people who want to help their children. And RFK Jr. is one of the biggest purveyors of medical disinformation out there. And so they've deleted from the Department of Health website warnings not to give your children bleach.

1:07:16Ben Meiselas:I just want you to think about that. But by the way, better get to know your Department of Health secretary. Today, the Department of Health or unhealth along with Trump, they announced that glyphosate-based herbicides are going to be back in vogue and they're going to be promoted. And those who do, remember all like those Roundup lawsuits because there was lots of link between glyphosate and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. And there were all these cases and the company that was behind Roundup like went bankrupt and they had to sell the company. Well, the Trump regime is protecting it. Do you know who was one of the biggest people who was purportedly fighting against the glyphosate in Roundup?

1:08:06Ben Meiselas:It was RFK Jr. One of his platforms is the herbicide glyphosate is one of the likely culprits in America's chronic disease epidemic, much more widely used here than in Europe. Shockingly, much of the exposure comes from its use in wheat, not as herbicide. From there, it goes straight into our bodies. My USDA will ban that practice, is what he said on June 14, 2024. But also, RFK was one of the people who were behind, like starting with 10 years ago or around that time, these big lawsuits against Roundup. And there were these big mass action cases that were filed. And this was a major platform when they were talking about Maha.

1:08:46Ben Meiselas:Well, you know, now all these Maha people like I can't even believe what I'm reading. And it's the House Committee on Agriculture saying, thank you, Trump, for acknowledging the importance of glyphosate based herbicides in American agriculture.

1:09:01Jordy Meiselas:I mean, surely someone like RFK who made this such a big plank of his entire identity as he was going to become health secretary and campaigning, surely he would speak out against Trump. Oh, no. Trump decided that he was going to increase the production of these chemicals. And so now RFK is all about it. All about it. And that's why these people are scam artists. These people are grifters. These people are liars. and this Maha movement is actually a really – it provides a window into how their propaganda works, I will say, because one thing that they did that was interesting and one thing that RFK Jr.

1:09:36Jordy Meiselas:was actually very effective at and this Maha movement was effective at is they kind of skillfully co-opted longstanding issues that were typically, I would say, more progressive issues, right? Speaking about toxic chemicals in food, speaking about pesticides, you know, things you'd see in like that movie Food Inks, talking about artificial dyes, ultra-processed food. Like these were historically speaking part of like that sort of crunchy wellness and organic food community that existed that was very much more of like a liberal left-leaning thing. And RFK took those issues, which are very valid issues that people should be concerned about, and you take a kernel of truth, like legitimate things like that.

1:10:21Jordy Meiselas:And when you pull people in with the real stuff, then you push them over into the grifty stuff, into the fake stuff, into the scammy stuff. That's when you push people into the anti-vax stuff. And once you get them hooked, once you get them in with that truth, then you're able to throw the disinformation at them. And that's how kind of this entire Maha movement kind of operates. And as Ben kind of implied before, it's such a devious thing because it's playing on people's kind of primal emotions and their biggest fears about safety, not only for themselves, but for their children. And so if you hook somebody in, you know, by saying warning against ultra processed foods, legitimate, right?

1:11:10Jordy Meiselas:All those sorts of things. But then you start saying don't vaccinate your kids. And the reason you're saying don't vaccinate your kids is because if you do that, they say it will kill your kids. All of a sudden right now you are being incredibly manipulative. And you are taking advantage of a person who is worried about their kids, who doesn't want to see harm done to their kids. and they trust you at this point. So they listen to you. And then they view anybody who's giving them the real information that vaccines are overall very safe. They view those people as attacking their kids. And that's how their worldview gets very skewed.

1:11:46Jordy Meiselas:And we enter a very dangerous place. The irony, of course, is that under the guise of helping to, quote, protect your kids, people like RFK Jr. are actually making life much more dangerous for your kids. They're putting your kid's life at risk, which is why we're seeing these measles outbreaks across the country, which is why we're seeing these diseases come back that we haven't seen in many, many, many, many years. I mean, it's obviously, it's all connected. And I think one of the biggest ironies also is that these people are also propping up industries that are, you know, these kind of corporate big pharma sort of industries, like the whole like idea of like, don't take the vaccine, but take ivermectin, which is also a big pharma product.

1:12:25Jordy Meiselas:I don't know how that's owning big pharma. Like you're just, you're giving the money to somebody else for something that's not proven to help with this thing at all. And now this is just like the extreme version of this, right? Putting pesticides into food, increasing the production of these things, which many believe studies show causes cancer, kills people. I mean, this, that's the Maha movement. I mean, the whole thing is just, it's just a total fraud. Well, that's why we say too, they're bad people like the entire ecosystem of the trump regime like they they are genuinely bad people they actually they don't care about the american person they don't want them to actually be healthier they don't want the americans to have health care they don't they don't care they don't want to make things more affordable like they don't care about you it's who could be the next mark and how can i take their money or how can i use them to enrich myself i mean that that is just the common theme that i've seen i think we've all seen here from anyone in the trump regime Yeah.

1:13:19Ben Meiselas:I want to share. It's interesting what we're just seeing, though, like how someone like Governor Westmore from Maryland, you know, kind of deals with this. Right. What's Trump's latest thing is that a sewage spill in the Potomac, which is on federal land, which is federal waters, is somehow the governor of Maryland's fault and that he's to blame. When Governor Westmore sent people from Maryland to help with the cleanup because that's what neighbors do, then Trump blames the neighbor and says, you caused it, which is literally psychotic behavior. Right. Like like literally, can we help you as a neighbor?

1:14:04Ben Meiselas:And then Trump, you did it. You did it. You're the reason for this. And you what we have to be able to do, though, is with Trump and these lunatics just continuing to make up stuff. What in California was it that the reason for the fires and that they weren't put out is that Gavin Newsom refused to turn the faucet. and there was a faucet in Northern California connected to Canada. And Donald Trump had to take the faucet and turn it and then release the water. And then that's what ultimately stopped the fire and he saved everything. It's such a demented lie that logical minds trying to argue with it, It's the issue of having to disprove a negative because it's like even having to engage with it somehow kind of puts you on the level of having a conversation that this is even a thing.

1:15:07Ben Meiselas:There's no faucet. It's not connected. What are you even talking about? You have no clue what you're saying. This water is not, you know, in the next iteration of accountability, we truly have to guard adulting. We have to guard truth and logic zealously, like frankly, with our lives. And the moment someone starts veering, we need to call them out immediately to their face. And we could all take part in that. that this experience of accountability because it's crazy land. And so watch Governor Westmore the other day addressing Donald Trump's issue of you caused the sewage spill in the Potomac.

1:15:56Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip.

1:15:57Jordy Meiselas:Which was this?

1:15:58Ben Meiselas:Oh, what the governor was. It's such a long lead. It's such a long lead up. I thought you might just be describing it.

1:16:05Jordy Meiselas:I don't have that clip.

1:16:06Ben Meiselas:You don't have the Governor Westmore clip? No. All right. Well, in any event, what about Do you have the Pritzker clips? No. Okay. Well, in that time, everybody will see. No, I'm just joking. In all seriousness, though, then I'll leave everybody with this thought. When Donald Trump says that the deficit has dropped 78 % and the trade deficit dropped 78%, we know that that's a lie as well. You want to look at what the actual data is. The actual data is that the U.S. trade deficit widened to$70.3 billion in December. Donald Trump says it decreased by 70%. No, it widened by$70.3 billion in December, pushing the full year gap to$901.5 billion.

1:17:01Okay.

1:17:02Ben Meiselas:You can go through any one of these stats and they're not lining up in a positive direction. and what you have is the Epstein class covering up for the Epstein class while layers of accountability are needed. I mean, do you all remember when we report, when the news was reporting, Donald Trump giving patriot weapons to Ukraine. Donald Trump, he's cut a deal with Germany. Remember what we were saying here on the Midas Touch Network? Bullshit, not happening. It's all a lie. He's not gonna do it. Stop reporting these things. Well, some of the latest reporting, as Zelensky is saying, that the U.S.

1:17:37Ben Meiselas:promised Europe licenses to produce Patriot missiles, then refused. Germany now has no air defense missiles left to give Ukraine. And Zelensky says it didn't have to be this way. There were promises of licenses, but the Americans ultimately didn't go along with it. The word of Trump in this regime is meaningless. That's why you don't see anybody showing up to the Board of Peace that actually, you know, our former allies who actually care, they're not showing up because Trump's word is meaningless. And when we think about what went down, and I'll leave us with this, over the past 48 hours in Geneva during the trilateral discussions between Ukraine, the United States, and Russia, I mean, it just goes to show you it was a setup from the outset.

1:18:22Ben Meiselas:You had the United States and Russia were going to gang up on Ukraine. Ukraine brought in France and the UK in order to be shoulder to shoulder and represent the UK interest and the European Union interest. Russia brought in this guy, Medinsky, a new negotiator just shows up who's not even negotiating. They spend the time where the Russian guy literally reads his own version of a history lesson about why Ukraine belongs to Russia. So the entire time is spent with this Medinsky guy, basically lecturing the history of why he believes the Russian empire includes Ukraine and why Ukraine should not be independent and sovereign.

1:19:02Ben Meiselas:Waste of a time. While that's taking place, Russia is launching one of its largest Shahid drones, ballistic missile and cruise missile strikes into Kiev, Kharkiv, Odessa, throughout all of Ukraine. And Donald Trump is saying, you better move Zelensky. You better make your move. You better get it done. It's Zelensky's fault. Russia's moved. Russia's made big steps, but it's Zelensky. You're not doing it. Zelensky's made every step. Zelensky's agreed to hold elections for himself. He's agreed to a referendum to give up most of Eastern Ukraine or Donbass, but lots of Eastern Ukraine to Russia. Zelensky said, we need a 30 to 45 day ceasefire in order to assemble these pieces because we can't do elections or we can't do referendums on land.

1:19:58Ben Meiselas:And it has to go to the people. Ukraine is sovereign. He goes, I can't give up Eastern Ukraine. I don't want to. But ultimately, if Ukrainians want to give it up, I'm happy to put it to a vote. But it's got to be a free and fair vote, and we need a ceasefire so that we aren't getting attacked when this is happening. Russia doesn't even agree to that. So there's no negotiating with these people. When Donald Trump says, oh, we're in phase two of the ceasefire in Gaza, there's no ceasefire. Hundreds of innocent Palestinians have been killed. Also, Hamas has been killed. They're not innocent, and they deserve to be brought to justice.

1:20:35Ben Meiselas:But there have been women and children and parents by the hundreds who have been killed in Palestine, in Gaza, since the so-called ceasefire has been announced. There's no ceasefire taking place. And now we're on the precipice of war with Iran. As I mentioned before, two aircraft carrier groups are there. We have a huge armada right there. We don't have the support of our normal allies. It's just the U.S. and Israel basically going it alone. What's being described as what could take place is a protracted war starting in March through the end of the summer. We could be in a massive war with boots on the ground in a fight against Iran.

1:21:15Ben Meiselas:Iran said, if you strike us, we're going to go after all the assets nearby, military assets and other assets nearby. And that could be the foreseeable future. And there's no discussion with the American people about what the hell is happening. there's no transparency about what's going on it's not even being talked about right like do you remember back you know with with every other major war you know there would at least be like discussions and attempts at at at letting people know what the hell was happening even though a lot of times there were lies that brought us into war and at any event wasn't the whole pitch that there were not going to be more wars?

1:21:53Ben Meiselas:Peace is war. War is peace. 1984, Orwell. And Orwell, you could say, was Notre Dame, or you could say he was a historian, and he knows this is how authoritarians behave. And Trump has his board of peace where he's talking about war with Iran during his board of peace. Do we have the photos of the bubbleologist, Brett? Just so I can show people what the bubbleologist looks like. There's the bubbleologist. There you go. Megan makes bubbles. There it is.

1:22:19Jordy Meiselas:Don't be so hard on Brett, man. He produces and hosts at the same time. And you threw him off with the bubbleologist.

1:22:25Ben Meiselas:I did throw him. The bubbleologist, I think, threw everything off to be honest with you. Great shot. Just show the bubbles one more time. I want people to... Okay. So there's Megan. She makes bubbles. And I got the easiest question wrong, which is like, she goes, she goes, do you think that if I make a bubble with the star shape, it will be a circle or a star?

1:22:45Jordy Meiselas:Yikes. strike yeah that's a tough one yeah let's zoom in on i said i don't know i think it's going to be a

1:22:50Ben Meiselas:triangle and she's like no they make circles but the reality is is that they make spheres and then she made little clouds in the bubbles and so in any event she has the room looks like

1:23:02Jordy Meiselas:it's filled with toddlers so you answered on behalf of the toddlers and you got the question wrong pen's like i know this one i know yes have you ever seen it go pick me i just have you ever seen a star-shaped bubble?

1:23:14Ben Meiselas:I thought the question was open to the entire...

1:23:16Jordy Meiselas:It sounds a bit like a Billy Madison situation.

1:23:19Ben Meiselas:Have I ever seen a star bubble?

1:23:21Jordy Meiselas:Yeah.

1:23:21Ben Meiselas:She was doing so many bubble tricks that she set me up.

1:23:24Jordy Meiselas:Oh, like you thought her skill level, because she is a bubbleologist, she was able to make more sense.

1:23:30Ben Meiselas:I thought she was going to be able to, because some of the bubbles looked like hearts. Got it. But I was there with Jimena, and I was answering on behalf of the family, but I let us know. Vindicated. Anyway, thank you everybody so much for watching this episode of the Midas Dutch Podcast. Yes, we appreciate you. We're so close to 6 million subscribers. Thanks, everybody, for watching. Let's get to 6 million. Join, become a member. Get your Midas merch at store.midastouch.com. We have great, really cool Midas gear, store.midastouch.com. Check out our sub stack, midasplus.com. And we'll see you all, again, the videos throughout the day that I'll be dropping.

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