In short
The hosts and guests discuss escalating U.S.-Iran conflict, alleging Donald Trump is using market-manipulation-style “fake” negotiation claims and arbitrary deadlines while threatening mass destruction (bridges, power plants, civilian infrastructure) if Iran doesn’t deal by 8 p.m. ET Tuesday. They also argue U.S./Israeli strikes have targeted Iranian civilian and strategic sites (petrochemical/LNG/universities), Iran is increasing missile/drone effectiveness, and that U.S. leadership is failing troops via reckless rhetoric and bad-faith negotiation.
Guest backgrounds
The transcript names Dr. Vin Gupta (described as a health/25th Amendment-related commentator) and a law professor/negotiation instructor (the host teaching negotiation). No other guest bios are provided.
Key claims
Trump’s information is “untrustworthy” and contradictory; Axios/Barak Ravid allegedly published leaked “fake” negotiation info; Iran’s framework is consistent (missiles/drones kept, reparations, security guarantees, no ceasefire); Iran is allegedly controlling the Strait of Hormuz and shifting trade to yuan; U.S. strikes and rescue/Isfahan narratives are questioned.
Notable examples
“Open the effing straight” post; alleged destruction of C-130s/helicopters/Reapers; strikes on Sharif University/MIT-equivalent; protests in Baghdad/Yemen/Syria/Tel Aviv; references to Kushner/Whitcoff negotiations and prior U.S. killings of Iranian negotiators.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSupporting Families in Crisis
1:00 to 1:47
Mackenzie shares her experience launching a GoFundMe for an autistic child's family.
“My name is Mackenzie, and I started a GoFundMe for the adoptive mother of a nonverbal autistic child.”
Donald Trump's Escalating War in Iran
2:01 to 14:00
Analyzing Trump's rhetoric and actions regarding the war in Iran and their implications.
“Over the weekend, Donald Trump posted an expletive-laced social media post where he says, open the effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell.”
Understanding Recent Military Engagements
14:00 to 15:00
Exploration of recent U.S. military actions and Iranian responses.
“two helicopters, MQ-9, Reaper drones, the U.S.”
Critique of Trump's Narrative
15:00 to 16:50
Discussion on the credibility of information from the Trump administration.
“You have to ask, like, you know, on the big aircraft carrier when the U.S.”
War Crimes and Rhetoric
16:50 to 18:50
Analysis of Trump's rhetoric and its implications on international relations.
“I, Donald Trump, am going to obliterate and send you to the Stone Age and destroy these savage animals.”
The Dangerous Implications of Leadership
18:50 to 21:20
Examining the consequences of Trump's leadership on U.S. troops and foreign policy.
“Like, like, it just shows you where you are.”
Iran's Existential Struggle
21:20 to 24:00
Understanding Iran's perspective and their fight for existence amid U.S. actions.
“when he told them to protest at mass and get out into the streets.”
Public Sentiment and Protests
24:00 to 26:00
Overview of protests in the Middle East reflecting public sentiment against U.S. actions.
“And then if we damaged all of their equipment and all of their plants and things like that, if we totally obliterated them in the first strikes, well, then why are we still there?”
Negotiation Frameworks in Middle East Politics
26:00 to 28:00
Discussion on Iran's unique negotiation strategies in international relations.
“You can make that argument, but there's a lot of damn people who are out there.”
Understanding Iranian Negotiation Tactics
28:00 to 29:10
Learn about Iran's consistent negotiation framework and its implications.
“you know, MBS of Saudi Arabia or the UAE or Qatar being transactional.”
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The Impact of Trump's Aggressive Strategy
29:10 to 31:00
Explore how Trump's approach to Iran exacerbates the conflict.
“No ceasefire because they want full guarantees and they want to keep their weapons.”
Failed Diplomacy and the Role of Key Figures
31:00 to 32:50
Discuss the failure of diplomacy and the influence of Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff.
“So you have to at least start with a cultural understanding of who is the counterparty.”
Escalation vs. Withdrawal: A Critical Choice
32:50 to 34:20
Learn about the three potential outcomes in U.S.-Iran relations and their consequences.
“and Donald Trump right now to try to negotiate something.”
The Psychological Tactics in Trump's Negotiation Style
34:20 to 36:15
Examine the psychological manipulation tactics used by Trump in negotiations.
“And as you look at Trump, it's not a superpower, but there is a, and I don't mean this in a positive way, there's a relentlessness, the way he still talks about the 2020 elections and spread lies about it, right?”
Trump's Business Failures and Negotiation Skills
40:06 to 42:00
Analyze Trump's business practices and their negative impact on negotiations.
“Links in the description of both the YouTube and the audio.”
Trump's Negotiation Tactics
42:00 to 45:00
Learn how Trump's approach to negotiation is likened to warfare and undermines trust.
“of good faith negotiation he sets fake deadlines oftentimes in negotiations each side leaves a little bit on the table right when you're trying to negotiate with the counterparty It's not a war usually.”
Effects of Trump's Negotiation Style
45:00 to 48:20
Discover how Trump's negotiation tactics impact international relations and conflict.
“And then to your point exactly there, this negotiation to escalate, like as Trump is doing that, isn't that just such typical like rich kid, bad at business, daddy's money type of like businessman mentality?”
Trump's Disturbing Aspirations
48:20 to 50:00
Trump's desire to be the president of Venezuela reflects his distorted worldview.
“This is that the same principles to me kind of generally apply right here.”
Trump's Misguided Military Strategies
50:00 to 53:20
Understand how Trump's rhetoric and decisions lead to ineffective military strategies.
“We've already had regime change in Iran.”
The Consequences of Trump's Claims
53:20 to 56:00
Explore the implications of Trump's assertions regarding military actions and leadership.
“The moment he signaled that about three weeks ago or four weeks ago or so, that signaled the ultimate weakness.”
The Impact of Military Decisions
56:00 to 57:19
Discussion on military bases and decisions surrounding Iran.
“Iran right now because because he's never he's never been replaced, you know, and I also I did one other, but this one was not picked up.”
Concerns About Presidential Stability
57:20 to 59:11
A critical analysis of the current president's mental stability and decision-making.
“Donald Trump out of any future potential prosecution that we all would like to see around here.”
International Responses to U.S. Military Actions
59:12 to 1:00:28
Examining the UK's refusal to support U.S. military actions and implications.
“You know, one data point I want to bring up as well.”
Analyzing Trump's Statements on Iran
1:03:49 to 1:10:01
A review of Trump's fluctuating statements regarding military actions in Iran.
“Benjamin, where would you like to go next?”
Calling the Bluff: Dealing with Authoritarianism
1:10:01 to 1:11:34
Learn strategies for addressing authoritarian leadership without compromise.
“Why would we want to be a part of an organization where you keep lifting the sanctions against Russia and helping Russia attack your own troops?”
The Insanity of Trump's Statements
1:11:35 to 1:12:59
Discover the alarming rhetoric used by Trump regarding international relations.
“Now, we saw what happened right when Greenland stood up to Donald Trump.”
Examining Trump's War Rhetoric
1:13:00 to 1:14:26
Analyze Trump's controversial comments on military actions and their implications.
“he said those things, I think it's important to bring the receipt, though, and share with you.”
Media Responses to Trump's Controversial Remarks
1:14:27 to 1:19:53
Understand how the media's portrayal of Trump's statements influences public perception.
“of business, burning, exploding and never to be used again.”
Ongoing Investigations and Calls for Accountability
1:19:54 to 1:20:58
Stay informed about the Epstein investigation and the push for transparency.
“minutes, we do new breaking updates on everything that's going on, whether it's in the war or throughout the country.”
Transcript
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1:56GoFundMe.com. This podcast is supported by GoFundMe. Donald Trump's unlawful and catastrophic war in Iran continues to escalate. Over the weekend, Donald Trump posted an expletive-laced social media post where he says, open the effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. praise be to Allah. And then Donald Trump said that he was involved in negotiations with Iran, and he thought a deal was going to happen. And yet again, he leaked this fake information, this fraudulent information to manipulate the markets to Barack Ravid over at Axios, who then published it. Then we woke up this morning to find out, surprise, surprise, yet again, there's no negotiations taking place.
2:46In fact, Iran sent back its framework. if the United States even wants to be involved in negotiations, which include all the non-negotiables that they've been saying for weeks, which is what we've been talking about here on the Midas Touch Network, that they keep their ballistic missiles and Shahid drones, that they get full reparations, no ceasefire. They want full-time security guarantees forever for themselves, for Hezbollah, for the Houthis and for Shiite militia groups in Iraq. And they said they basically want the U.S. off of military bases in the region, and they want full control of the Strait of Hormuz to set up their toll system, which they are doing right now.
3:32Donald Trump then said, actually, I'm just going to blow up all of Iran now, all of it. I'm going to destroy the entire country. He called Iran in general like a bunch of animals. He gave one of the most deranged, if not the most deranged press conference I'd ever seen today, where he said that he was the one who killed Osama bin Laden. He said he wants to run and become the president of Venezuela. He went on to provide likely classified information about the number of special forces in this purported operation near the Isfahan nuclear facility involving the F-15E pilots, which I did a video about, which let me be very clear.
4:13It's great news that that F-15E pilot and both of them were crew members were found and safe and secure. Although there's a lot of questions about this operation involving hundreds of special forces right by the Isfahan facility, when also the CIA leaked that it was involved in a deception campaign in the area. And then we saw, what, multiple C-130s, multiple helicopters, multiple Reaper drones were destroyed by Iran in connection with this, about half a billion dollars of military equipment destroyed. And we'll talk about that. And now Donald Trump has basically set another deadline. And his other deadline is that by 8 p.m.
4:57Eastern time on Tuesday. If Iran doesn't make a deal with him or doesn't negotiate with him, he goes, we're going to blow up all of their bridges, every one of them, every one of their power plants, every one of them, all of their civilian infrastructure. And already today, things have escalated a lot. I mean, U.S. and Israel hit the petrochemical plants in Iran, Those kind of that southern PARS, FARS facility right by the Qatari northern oil field. You had the LNG facilities, had petrochemicals facilities. You had universities, the Sharif University, the MIT essentially of Iran was destroyed by U.S.
5:41and Israeli strikes. And throughout all of this, Iran's out there on their various social media accounts. And they're saying, you know, basically bring it on. We're ready to fight. They're out there mocking Donald Trump for negotiating with himself. They're out there calling out Donald Trump's behavior. They're out there saying the 25th Amendment needs to be moved. There's this post right here for audio listeners where they go, where Donald Trump goes Tuesday, 8 p.m. Eastern time. And the Iranian social media accounts respond by saying 8 p.m. Not that good. Could you change it to between 1 and 2 p.m.?
6:12Or if possible, 1 and 2 a.m.? Thank you for your attention to this important matter. I mean, they're mocking him. They're mocking him. Never before has the United States looked so weak and pathetic on the world stage. It is a humiliation ritual that the entire country is being put through. And then Donald Trump continues to attack NATO. NATO probably just exists in name only at this point because Trump says that he and Putin talk all about how NATO is a paper tiger and that NATO is not a real powerful group anymore. So you've got Trump doing that. Real pathetic stuff. We'll cover it all. We'll break it all down here on the Midas Touch Network.
6:53And Brenton, Jordy and Midas Mighty, we're used to Donald Trump on Easter Sunday and other holidays, posting deranged stuff. But with the United States and this unlawful war that Donald Trump has brought us in, I mean, this was something that, you know, when I read even in the morning, you know, I'm like, is this real? And I had to look at it again and again. I'm like, this is just a whole new level
7:15The MeidasTouch Brothers:of weak and pathetic. Threatening to destroy entire countries on Easter Sunday. How pious of Donald Trump. It's good to be here, our brothers. Good to be here, Ben. Good to be here, Jordy. Good to be here, Midas Mighty. Everybody out there listening on the audio podcast or watching us live on YouTube. Always great to be here with you to break down the news. I will say a new way to know what day it is without checking the calendar. Because even yesterday, I kind of forgot it was a Sunday, to be honest. I kind of thought it was a Saturday. And then I was so disappointed because I saw the tweet from Barack Reveed of Axios that said, a deal is imminent.
7:54The MeidasTouch Brothers:There's a ceasefire imminent, a 45-day ceasefire imminent, and the talks are real, and it's coming, folks. It's about to be here. And I said, oh, it's market manipulation Sunday. the futures markets are about to open. I see now. I was like, shit, I thought it was Saturday. I thought another day of this weekend, but no, Barack Ravid posted his market manipulation story. And now I know it's Sunday. I jest, but that's like the way this thing is going right now. It's a predictable pattern of every single week, this fire hose of BS coming from the Trump administration, coming from reporters who just act as stenographers for the Trump administration, pushing false information out there to try, in my opinion, to pump the markets before they open on Monday morning.
8:38The MeidasTouch Brothers:The whole thing is just grotesque. We'll get into all of it. First, I got to check in with Jordy. Jordy, what's the latest? What's up, brothers? What's up, Midas Mighty? Ben, going to just piggyback on what you were talking about earlier. Donald Trump, he sounds like a comic book villain at this point. He sounds like the Joker. If you don't agree by 8 p.m. ET on Tuesday night, I'm going to blow up bridges and then tuesday inevitably comes well nothing happens right not that i'm rooting for him to blow up these bridges and stuff but it's just like he is cartoonishly evil and just so stupid and to your point exactly ben this is a humiliation ritual he's putting our entire country every citizen in this country is being put through this humiliation ritual because donald trump doesn't know how to actually negotiate he's treating this entire war with iran like it's some episode of The Apprentice, right?
9:31And they know that he's doing that. And so he's just, he's singularly the most ill-equipped person to be handling this matter right now. And he's just so unserious. But the things he says, like they have consequences worldwide. Benji, excites again tonight's show, Brothers Might is Mighty, where we starting off. Yeah. And obviously the market manipulation Sunday night, it's a weekly ritual. This is so reminiscent and the timeframe is so reminiscent of COVID in 2020, right? Remember Donald Trump said COVID was going to go away by Easter. The curve would be bent. He goes, it's going to align so perfectly and invoke God and that it's godly and miracles and it's going to go away because of Easter.
10:18and then it didn't. And then it got worse and worse and worse and worse and worse. Here we are after Easter, all of Donald Trump's lies caught up with him. It's just at this point, nobody believes a word of what he's saying. Nobody should have believed a word of what he's saying. But it still seems that he and a crew of his right-wing oligarch buds do the Ponzi scheme thing where they still try to really trade on the information as soon as, and it's shorter bursts at this point, but as soon as Barack Ravid from Axios publishes the story, they come up with new creative framings. I think this time it was like, you know, there were like multiple countries involved in this and there's a slim chance, but people still hold hope.
11:03And, you know, they like add new details that are just completely big. U.S. officials are telling me this, that, you know, and the other. In a last-ditch push, a 45-day ceasefire in a very specific amount of days, right? Iran's never agreeing to a ceasefire, nor is Iran ever going to speak with Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff. The last times they spoke with Kushner and Witkoff, they were invaded right after there was believed to be a deal in principle based on what the independent neutral mediators said. And they believe, this is why we study what they're saying, what they're reporting. They believe, one, anything that Whitcoff and Kushner says, they're not even going to believe and they're never going to talk to them at all.
11:48And then they also believe that any type of ceasefire just provides the US and Israel time to build up their munitions. Iran, despite the Trump regime and Netanyahu, like portraying them as like cavemen who scream like Allah Akbar and aren't like sophisticated actors and they don't know what they're doing and they're savages and animals, right? That's the language that comes out from the Trump regime. You know, Iran has a framework of negotiation that they've always said, if you don't agree with our framework, we're not negotiating with you in the first place. Iran has a clear plan here where they've utilized this war to gain more power each and every day, fully controlling the Strait of Hormuz, having countries bilaterally negotiated with it.
12:39Countries that do want to pass through the Strait of Hormuz that are not allied with the U.S. and Israel have to utilize yuan, Chinese currency, in order to devalue the dollar. They're very much aware of the missile stockpiles and the amount of munitions the United States and Israel have. They're very much aware that the penetration rate of the Iranian ballistics and Shahids is up significantly since the beginning of the war. Iran shoots less missiles with more precision right now. And I think the last analysis that was actually done by JP Morgan, I think says that Iran now has like a 27 % success rate of utilizing its weapons to hit targets, whereas at the beginning of the war, it was 3%.
13:23And so this idea by the Trump regime portraying Iran as like a barbaric group of savage animals. That's basically the language, word for word, that Donald Trump uses, belies the on-the-ground reality that it's filled with very smart engineers that know what they're doing and have built these drones, these Shahids and FPVs. They are utilizing systems to shoot down American planes, American helicopters. In this one mission alone, if you believe the official narrative, the U.S. on its own had to destroy two C-130s, two helicopters, MQ-9, Reaper drones, the U.S. destroyed it all. Whether you believe the U.S.
14:07narrative that they destroyed the eight aircrafts or the Iranians that they shot it down, we know the F-15E and the A-10 were shot down over, were shot down by Iran. But all these, It's undisputed the fact that all of this aircraft was shot down. We see Iran shooting the BAPCO facility in Bahrain and the Kuwaiti facilities. We learned right before we went live that there was a recent strike on Kuwait where multiple American soldiers were injured that, you know, that CENTCOM and nobody's talking about an Iranian drone strike at the Ali al-Salam air base in Kuwait overnight injured 15 Americans.
14:46This is what officials are telling CBS. They got to leak it because the Trump regime is not putting forward any accurate data. We truly have no count, no accurate count right now. What's the real casualty rate? Everything the Trump regime is selling us is a lie. You have to ask, like, you know, on the big aircraft carrier when the U.S. claimed, oh, there was a fire that was started in the laundry room. Like, you know, is that really what happened? You know, when they say, oh, we brought in hundreds of special forces right off of the Isfahan nuclear facility to save this F-15E fighter pilot. You have to question, are you giving us, like, normally we would be like, okay, that's accurate information.
15:28And I don't want to veer into the land of conspiracy or how people go, but Ben, clearly this, that, and the other. I simply have to now say that most of the info we're getting out of the Trump regime, if not all of it, is a complete and utter lie. And that is deeply problematic. But Iran is increasing its capabilities, not decreasing its capabilities. And now we're at a point where Donald Trump is saying, again, by 8 p.m. Eastern time, and I'll show you what he said on this press conference in a little bit, by 8 p.m. Eastern time Tuesday, we are going to basically destroy the entire country. We're going to bomb it back to the Stone Age.
16:08We're going to crush it. We're going to destroy these savages. And he says these things, which are war crimes. Let's not mince words what he's saying, war crimes. And then the Iranian regime has used this to boost morale amongst its people. They use it to motivate their people. And if anything, Iran now feels that this is a a war of civilizations. It's a clash of civilizations because Trump has framed it not as the United States going after the Islamic Republic and this Ayatollah regime. Donald Trump has framed it as an extension essentially of the Crusades, that this is the West or America, the American empire.
16:53I, Donald Trump, am going to obliterate and send you to the Stone Age and destroy these savage animals. That framing of things, that discussion from the perspective of these are war crimes, if you're not humiliated by that as an American, again, I don't care what political party you're from, if you're okay with this, you got to look in the mirror because this is some weak and pathetic stuff. Wasn't it last week where Donald Trump gave an address to the nation and said, we don't need the Strait of Hormuz at all? Why would we need it? We have all of the oil. So we're going to just leave it to the Europeans and France and the UK and Arab nations.
17:34You all figure it out. We're leaving in two days because we don't need the Strait of Hormuz. You've got this. He gave a national address. Think about past presidents giving national addresses and the impact and import that that has. He gives that national address. And then within a few days later on Easter Sunday, he says, praise be Allah, you know, praise be to Allah, open the effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. I'll throw it over to Brett and Jordy. I mean, again, we, you know, you have Dr. Vin Gupta here who basically says, you know, there are major red flags on Donald Trump's health.
18:19We've been talking about the 25th Amendment repeatedly here. I just don't I just at a basic level, I don't even know how you look at that and go, OK, I look beyond that. That is that is some of the most disgusting and vile stuff.
18:33The MeidasTouch Brothers:It also shows like he's kind of the world's worst poker player, right? Like, it's so obvious that he's bluffing when he's like, Oh, we don't need anyone else's help. You know, we don't even need the straight for moves. It's all good. It'll open itself. Everybody just don't even worry about it like a miracle. It's going to go away, you know, and then like two days later to say open the fucking straight. Like, like, it just shows you where you are. It shows that this guy's back is against the wall. And the thing that I've really just been afraid about is when his back is against the wall. that's when he's most erratic and most dangerous as cornered rats often are.
19:08The MeidasTouch Brothers:That's why I am worried about him doing some sort of major strikes or something outrageous at this moment because he's running out of options, quite frankly. Donald Trump is not winning this war right now. He's putting our troops at risk. They keep making things up that we have total air superiority and they're unable to get us. Next thing we know, they're shooting down our planes. They're shooting down our helicopters. And the fact that we even had to do that rescue mission to begin with shows the precarious situation that we are in. And meanwhile, yes, that was a heroic rescue that we witnessed.
19:44The MeidasTouch Brothers:And I got to say, the United States military, the best military there is, our troops are incredibly impressive at doing operational duties. However, our leadership is absolutely awful right now because our leadership is Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth, just utter buffoons who are sending these troops into really dangerous situations and unnecessary situations. And with their rhetoric, the rhetoric of Hegseth and the rhetoric of Donald Trump, they are invoking all of that religious imagery that Ben was saying, it was called the Donald Trump, that Ben was saying before, I know, right? Invoking all that religious imagery and that rhetoric that Ben was speaking about before.
20:27The MeidasTouch Brothers:and everything that they're doing right now. It's almost as if their messaging is designed to turn everybody in that region against the United States and turn all the Iranian people against the United States. And frankly, I'm like sickened to see my tax dollars right now be spent on this stuff, be spent on Donald Trump right now to be threatening war crimes, committing war crimes in the Middle East, saying, I'm going to blow up this power plant and I'm going to blow up this bridge and we're blowing up this university and blowing up a girl's school. This is all really twisted, demented stuff that we are watching right now that is way beyond the pale.
21:07The MeidasTouch Brothers:But these people in our government right now are just letting Donald Trump do it. And it is absolutely sickening. And now we have all of these people, these sympathetic Iranians to the United States cause, people who would have welcomed us actually early on if Donald Trump actually did something when he told them to protest at mass and get out into the streets. But now these people view it as existential, like Ben was saying, right? This has been an existential battle right now. And I brought this up a few episodes ago. It's a war of choice from the United States. This is an existential war for Iran.
21:41The MeidasTouch Brothers:They are quite literally fighting for their existence. And now it's not just the Islamic Republic fighting for their existence, but it's the people in Iran fighting for their existence, the everyday people there. When you hear Donald Trump talk today, quite frankly, he could have gone out during this press conference and he could have said, he could have talked about the heroism of our troops and talked about the rescue mission and spoke about the pilots and spoke about what they were going through. Instead, he went out there and said, yes, the Iranian people, they actually love when we bomb them and we're going to bomb them even harder.
22:17The MeidasTouch Brothers:They celebrate when we bomb them and they actually get upset when they stop hearing the bombs dropping on their schools and their universities. They get sad. They say, please, sir, more bombs, more bombs. This is the behavior of a sick, delusional madman. And every piece of intelligence that has come out throughout the last few weeks has completely contradicted everything that he has said in public. So right now, it's really tough to honestly even infer what we will. You have to infer what's going on because it's actually kind of impossible to understand the facts. What actually happened during that rescue mission?
22:52The MeidasTouch Brothers:How many troops are actually injured? How many casualties do we actually have? How much military equipment is actually damaged? We simply don't know a lot of this information, and we have to get it from secondhand sources because the United States government right now cannot be trusted to tell the truth at all. Exactly. You can't take the Trump's regime word for anything. Our leadership, our quote unquote leadership in this country is absolutely failing our citizens and our soldiers and especially our soldiers like i just want to continue to emphasize that like remember when hegseth said during the presser not too long ago i have the quote right here i'm just going to read it we will keep pressing we will keep pushing keep advancing uh no quarter no mercy for our enemies when you say stuff like that right like when you want to use these like really tough guy phrases is to make yourself look, I don't know, look like a man, Hegseth, saying we're going to show our enemies no quarters.
23:47Inevitably, when missions go wrong in wars, because it's a thing that sadly happens, now you're putting our troops at so much more of a higher risk here to trying to get them home safe. Because what you're telling everyone is like, we're not going to abide by those types of rules no no we see we're we're out for blood and for blood only and so what donald trump and the trump regime continue to do every single day here is one make us look wholly incompetent like truly just there was no plan for the war to begin with because remember now the plan and how we win the war is to open the strait well the strait was open before we got there so why are we even there anymore.
24:32And then if we damaged all of their equipment and all of their plants and things like that, if we totally obliterated them in the first strikes, well, then why are we still there? Why does Trump need so much more money, endless amounts of money to fund this illegal war in the first place? It is mind boggling to me that mainstream and legacy media let him skate by Donald Trump and the Trump regime, let him skate by on all of these things. I'm so grateful for this community to always call that stuff out. But the constant moving of the goalposts for the sake of market manipulation, I mean, that to me is like so evil, like at its core, it is so evil in its essence.
25:14And people just need to like stand up and call it out for what it is. It's criminal, Ben. Yeah. Well, a few things that we've been reporting on that I don't think you've seen many other places. We shared with you the protests over the weekend in Baghdad, where there was about a million members of the Shiite community there with some of the influential Shiite clerics. They were all protesting the U.S. invasion of Iran, and they were calling for Iraq to officially join the side of Iran against the United States. I mean, there were people as far as the eye could see. We've been seeing huge crowds in Iran.
25:52We've been sharing that with you just to see the ability to mass mobilize. Then you can say, well, all of those people are out there. That's part of a coordinated propaganda campaign. You can make that argument, but there's a lot of damn people who are out there. Then, you know, we share with you the protests that are taking place in Yemen. Hundreds of thousands of people at those protests in Syria. Hundreds of thousands of people in those protests. We also shared with you in Tel Aviv, in Israel, where there's a lot of anti-war protests taking place now. I think we'd like to see that bigger, but there's a lot of people out there.
26:27And what Donald Trump's been able to do is rally a lot of people against him in ways that heretofore would likely not have happened with every one of Donald Trump's, not just mistakes, but his cultural maliciousness. and this barbarism that is not being exhibited by the other side in their negotiations, at least publicly, but is being exhibited by Donald Trump and Hegsif, who keep on saying, glory to God, God's telling us to kill you. God wants us to blow you all up to the Stone Age. God is telling me to do this. I mean, that's the messaging coming from Donald Trump and his regime. And I've been studying, and I have before, Iranian culture, the foundation of the Islamic Republic, their prior involvement in the only two times they've ever made a deal.
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27:22The Islamic Republic was to end the Iran-Iraq war, where they learned a lot from that when they were willing to commit lots of lives in that fight that lasted years and years and years. And the Obama deal, were the only two times they really did a negotiation and made a deal. When you study their negotiating tactics or the kind of cultural aspects of how they perceive their role in the world, they view it through what's called a principalist framework, and that ultimately they're not transactional. It's one of the things that are frustrating, Donald, because he's used to you know, MBS of Saudi Arabia or the UAE or Qatar being transactional.
28:10You know, you'd scratch my back, I scratch your back. You know, you get, although pay for play, although Donald Trump doesn't ultimately play after the pay, but at least Trump saw in them transactional people. And he doesn't understand why the Islamic Republic is not accepting, the threats, the inducements of money. Why wouldn't you want to just do what Delcy Rodriguez did to Venezuela and join me? And we could lead a cartel together. We could be shoulder to shoulder and we'll both make money on the Strait of Hormuz. But that's just not how Iranians negotiate. And they've always put forward the same 10-point framework.
28:50And I know it's being reported today by the New York Times and elsewhere as this maximalist approach, they call it maximalist. where Iran submits 10-point proposal via Pakistan to end the war, including to end all attacks, full sanctions relief, halt to Israeli strikes, reconstruction support, and guarantees against future attacks. No ceasefire because they want full guarantees and they want to keep their weapons. I didn't need this report. They've been very clear and very consistent about this framework. And every time Trump has escalated, they've returned in kind and escalated. You strike their petrochemical facility, they strike a petrochemical facility.
29:31They hit Haifa, they hit Qatar, they hit Bahrain, you hit their area, they hit your area. That's what they said they're going to do. They've done that. And so, you know, there was a brief window this weekend where you had the foreign minister of Iran, Aragchi, seem to extend an olive branch, which was not understood by the Trump regime, where he was like, we never said that we don't want any communications with Pakistan. on. We just don't want it enforced on us or imposed upon us. And the response to that was Trump's effing straight, you effing bastards, and bomb you to the Stone Age. And all that does is have the opposite impact, has the opposite effect.
30:18And so the way with COVID, Trump's like, a miracle, it's all going to go away. It's not real. It's not a real thing. That doesn't work. Right. The strategy over here with Iran is never going to work. And the only way to deal with it is either to demonstrate a respect culturally for Iran, you know, which is you may or may not want to do that. You pull out and you recognize the defeat and you give up the Strait of Hormuz and allow Iran to do that. Or you escalate and you cause mass catastrophic events in the Middle East. But you're huffing and throughout the world. But you're huffing and you're puffing and I'll blow your house.
31:02That doesn't work. That's not going to work. It never will work in Iran. They're not afraid of that. They're mocking you for doing that. So you have to at least start with a cultural understanding of who is the counterparty. And that's one of the things we try to deliver to you here. You may not like it. You may go, why are you giving their perspective? I just want everybody to see the dynamics that are at play so we truly understand what's happening, not just the frantic headlines. We'll leave there for now. We've got a lot.
31:34The MeidasTouch Brothers:I'll just say, let me just say this quickly. Like Iran has been hitting back at the US quite frequently now because they're saying, how are we supposed to trust that they're even serious about diplomacy? And I think you could see why they would come to that conclusion when you see Donald Trump saying, open the effing straight, you crazy bastards. F you, F you, we're going to blow it up. We're going to blow up your power plants. It's not exactly an opening to discussions here. And let's remember the people who are the people in the room right now, so to speak, the metaphorical room, because there aren't actually any sort of direct negotiations underway at all.
32:08The MeidasTouch Brothers:But we got Steve Whitcoff and Jared Kushner right now have the fate of this whole thing in their hands. And you could argue very strongly, I would say, that they're the reason we're in this war to begin with. And by the way, there was a deal, right? We spoke about this. There was a deal. There was a mediator from Oman who was picked by the United States in the room that said the Iranians were willing to give up a whole lot of stuff, more than even during the Iranian nuclear deal that Trump tore up, which led to this moment. You could draw a direct line from that moment to this moment, but they apparently did not understand what was going on, or they relayed bad information to Donald Trump, or Trump didn't understand them, or Trump didn't care.
32:45The MeidasTouch Brothers:I don't know what it is, but now we are relying on Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff and Donald Trump right now to try to negotiate something. The whole thing is just unserious, but it is incredibly dangerous. America killed Ali Larajani, who was one of the people that was negotiating a few weeks back. Remember, we killed that. The United States killed him. Then there was another former foreign minister of Iran who, as soon as he was asked by Pakistan to get involved, his home was bombed by the United States and Israel. His wife was killed and he was severely injured. And so every time also Donald Trump says, hey, you know, let's negotiate.
33:27There's always an escalation as well in the war, which seems to demonstrate at least to Iran that you just use negotiations as a pretext for escalation and not de-escalation. And so I gave you the framework. One of these things either have to happen, either you're going to escalate and cause a catastrophic event for the world of proportions we haven't, you know, ever, you know, aren't even able to fathom. You just totally withdraw and you concede just an absolute, an absolute, you know, defeat, you know, or you, you know, you try to make some deal where Iran is able to keep certain things. You negotiate within their framework and you try to maybe get in a point here or there, but you negotiate within a mutual framework, not your, one of those three things happens or nothing happens.
34:19And Trump's like, no, I'm just going to threaten you. And as you look at Trump, it's not a superpower, but there is a, and I don't mean this in a positive way, there's a relentlessness, the way he still talks about the 2020 elections and spread lies about it, right? When he gets fixated on a thing, whatever it is, the fountain hose of lies is so incredibly overwhelming nonstop that for a lot of people, it exhausts them, then it breaks them. And the moment you break and you live within his framework of his alternative reality, right? Like a Rubio or any of these types of people, you've now debased yourself where you can't really get out of it because you've now accepted this alternative reality.
35:09And to get out means complete and utter humiliation for you. And while you're still facing humiliation rituals being in this alternative reality, your only hope becomes the zombification of others, bringing them into your alternate reality and trying to shape other people and force them into your thinking. Because if you admit you're wrong, it's a total humiliation ritual. That's the kind of psychological brainwashing jujitsu that's taking place. And he's trying to do that with Iran. I mean, just think of it's nonstop, nonstop. And they just mock it and brush it off. Pathetic. Okay. 8 p.m. How about 6 p.m.?
35:51Actually, we're better at 1 p.m. or 2 p.m. Or you want to do it at 3 a.m.? That's ultimately what someone like a Governor Newsom, what clicks and he realizes, or people who oppose Trump, what you realize is you have to mock it and ignore it and then just treat it like crazy and not normalize it. And so there's that adaptive learning taking place. And so anyway, I don't think you've heard this level of analysis anywhere else. This is a long segment. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back. I'm going to show you some of the clips of what went down. I don't think I need to show you all of them because you've seen the deranged stuff that he said.
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40:13Let's go. Shout out to our sponsors. Links in the description of both the YouTube and the audio. Use the links, use the codes. If there's an exit survey, let them know we sent you. I really love that rough greens, especially. Definitely, definitely check that out. Use the code Midas. Benji, before I toss it back over to you, I just wanted to say this. And I know I said this on the podcast before, but I just think it's worth repeating, is that Donald Trump is not a great businessman, right? I just think it needs to be said plainly just like that because there are far too many people, especially in the right wing and corporate media ecosystem, that truly believe he is.
40:43He's the world's worst negotiator. Let me say it like that again. He is the world's worst negotiator and is singularly the worst person to be in charge of this moment right now. He has no reason to why we actually got put into this war that he got us into and he has no plan for us to exit other than seemingly it seems like killing a whole lot of people and having our troops get killed too in the likes of it donald trump is the world's worst businessman he was put into business by his father he was bankrolled by his father daddy's money and he failed at every single business he had it it's amazing to me that there are so many people in the right-wing ecosystem and just in the ecosystems in general that like to say, you know what, that Donald Trump, I don't like like how he goes crazy and like says the weird stuff, but he's a good businessman.
41:35No, he is not. He bankrupted casinos. Do you know how bad you have to be at business to bankrupt a casino? It is, it makes me want to rip out my hair sometimes when I hear that from people. Benji, what do you think about that? where to next you know i teach negotiations at a law school i am a professor and one of the topics that we spend a lot of weeks on in my class is negotiation and donald trump violates every rule of good faith negotiation he sets fake deadlines oftentimes in negotiations each side leaves a little bit on the table right when you're trying to negotiate with the counterparty It's not a war usually.
42:21If you go to war, you go to war or you litigate. You fight in the court or you fight whatever. And the negotiation part is trying to figure out solutions where both sides leave a little bit kind of left. Donald Trump views negotiations as the act of war itself when a negotiation often involves a level of de-escalation. So he sets arbitrary and fake deadlines. He is not a trustworthy conveyor of information, which is an understatement, right? He provides contradictory data within moments of each other. So you on the other side don't even know what to trust or what to not trust. He undermines other people on his team who you think you're negotiating with, and then he'll throw them under the bus so you don't have a point of contact for the negotiation itself.
43:21As noted, he views it as an effort to crush the other side. When he misses a deadline, he then just switches it and then acts like he doesn't make good off and on the threat from the arbitrary deadline. And oftentimes a good negotiator, all the stuff I teach in my class, you are not just like throwing out numbers to try to meet in the middle. A lot of negotiation is a data gathering exercise where the best negotiators are very detailed oriented people who are extracting oftentimes what's referred to as the unknown unknowns by asking questions to try to determine how do you have the best data set in order to find solutions.
44:15And oftentimes that involves a real curiosity. So what often I tell students in my negotiation classes is not to just go out and throw out numbers and say, this is the number. Or even if your client wants X dollars or X whatever, that's not the best negotiating strategy. The best is to reach out to the other side or a mediator, ask a lot of questions, be very curious, keep asking questions, listen, being a good listener is the best type of negotiator. And then once you have as much data as you can, then you try to reach common sense solutions that bring people together. So he's the opposite of all, like literally the worst of the worst forms of negotiation.
45:04And then to your point exactly there, this negotiation to escalate, like as Trump is doing that, isn't that just such typical like rich kid, bad at business, daddy's money type of like businessman mentality? Because Donald Trump is used to doing that. He's used to using his negotiation tactics along with escalation because he's always had something in his back pocket, right? Just think, you know, in the context of litigation, right? Imagine you're at a mediation to try to resolve the case. Plaintiff is there. Defendant is there. Let's say both sides are suing each other. There's a mediator trying to bring the parties together.
45:44And then one side learns while you're in this mediation process that the other side just took some action that was, you know, you know, that tried to humiliate you or make you look stupid or that really escalated the case. That will always result in the party leaving the mediation and saying, why would I deal with you? We were here to try to come up with a solution. extrapolated writ large is kind of what you're seeing here. And Iran's like, why would I negotiate with one, these people? I don't want to speak with Whitcoff and Kushner. Two, you're killing our negotiators once they actually get involved.
46:22And we need to at least establish a negotiating framework. And we don't like being threatened every single time. That's not a way to get us to the negotiating table. So what Trump has done, though, in his view of negotiations generally. And this is what I said before. It is a relentless attack on the other, relentless. Bring the family in, attack this person, give them nicknames, mock them, flood the zone, get others to start, you know, ganging up with you to pick on the person, really attack the weak side over and over and over again, and try to pound them down and exhaust them and tire them out with just a relentlessness that most human beings don't want to deal with this crap, right?
47:13Most human beings want to go and spend Easter Sunday with their family, right? Or they want to go, you know, to, you know, to do something with their children or grandkids or go out with a significant other or friend or have a dinner or have a meal or take a walk or do these things, right? But this kind of MAGA crew, this Trump group, they just live in a stew in this kind of, you know, in this world. You think about the kind of cartoonish bad guys or, you know, the, you know, Lord of the Rings bad guys, right? And they live in like this area with the volcanoes and it's dark and it's, you know, evil.
47:51And it's like, honestly, those characters, which seems so cartoonishly silly, right, is kind of the world where it's just relentless. And so the only way to fight back is relentlessness to fight back with it. And you really can't negotiate with it because it's all done in bad faith. Anyway, I know I took us on a journey there, but I wanted to give you my insight into the way I teach negotiation, you know, in a law class for law students and undergrads to, you know, and, you know, you could say, well, this is different. This is war. This is that the same principles to me kind of generally apply right here.
48:26But let's just take a look at what went down. I want to show you this just disastrous press conference and some of the low lights of it very quickly. So here's where Donald Trump says that he wants to be the president of Venezuela. And again, he keeps on mentioning Venezuela and I have such high popularity. And he's not like joking. He genuinely wants to be the president of Venezuela. Here's what he says. Let's play this clip. And we just so you understand that The people of Venezuela, they say if I ran for president of Venezuela, I'm polling higher than anybody has ever polled in Venezuela. So after I'm finished with this, I can go to Venezuela.
49:02I will quickly learn Spanish. It won't take too long. I'm good at language. And I will go to Venezuela. I'm going to run for president. But we're very happy with the president elect. So to me, he's not joking there. Like that's not him. He's not being funny. He genuinely wants to be the president of Venezuela.
49:18The MeidasTouch Brothers:The fact that he keeps comparing it to Venezuela too has to just be like, to me, that's a disturbing sign for all the Iranian people. Because, you know, I get if there's one comparison that he, it seems from all like the kind of leaks and stuff that we've heard, is that Trump really believed that this Iran mission might be like Venezuela in terms of the speed, that he'd be able to get in and get out and everything would just be done, boom, out, done, good. That's clearly not the case. The Iranian regime views this as existential. The Iranian people view this as existential, and they're going to fight this out till the end, so it seems.
49:53The MeidasTouch Brothers:But the thing that concerns me is you have to listen to Trump's rhetoric. We're obviously about to play some more clips, but Trump keeps saying, we've already had regime change. He's now said it like every single day. We've already had regime change in Iran. And he oscillates back and forth between yesterday saying, these are some, you all are crazy bastards, he said. and then saying the people in this new regime are actually far more easy to deal with. They're actually way easier and way chiller to deal with. These people are reasonable. And so you can't have both. But just like in Venezuela, what did he do?
50:25The MeidasTouch Brothers:He left the Maduro regime in charge with Maduro second in command now leading the country with the same restrictions on freedoms that those people had beforehand. And now he's claiming victory in terms of regime change in Iran when all he did was elevate the younger guy, the younger son of the Ayatollah to be Ayatollah. He is a more hardline guy. With every individual that they kill in this regime, whether it be the military commanders or the political leaders, the more hardline people come in. Then they come in with a vengeance because their sister is killed, their dad is killed, their mom is killed, their kids are killed.
51:05The MeidasTouch Brothers:And so the situation is just getting worse and worse and worse for the Iranian people themselves. You know, I had a debate with a former top FBI negotiator who wrote a book called How to Split the Difference. And his name is Chris Voss. And Chris Voss seemed to say that Donald Trump's transactional negotiations in Venezuela, he seemed to be supportive of it. And I said to him, I said, well, you were an FBI hostage negotiator. So you were negotiating with hostage takers, with kidnappers, right? I said, well, if you were the FBI, wouldn't it be an easy outcome if you and the hostage taker and the kidnapper came together and said, you know how we can make a lot of money?
51:45I got all this power of the FBI. What if the FBI became the kidnappers? We'll help you do the kidnapping and we'll both make a lot of money, but you got to give us a lot of money and then we'll give you a percentage kidnapper. Would you like that? And then the U.S. became the kidnapper. That's what I said to Chris Voss. I said, what kind of outcome is that? You want to free the hostages, not join the hostage taker. And what Trump wants to do is go around the world and join the hostage takers. He wants to join the authoritarians and be the repressive regime because he sees himself, in my opinion, as a Putin, as a Kim Jong-un, frankly, as a Maduro.
52:26The ultimate irony to me on the Maduro thing is Trump just didn't like Maduro dancing. Trump was kind of like jealous of it. Trump was like, I'm the guy who dances. You don't want to dance. And based on his views of women, I think that he viewed that he controls Delce in his own mind. We don't know what's even going on behind the scenes because you don't think Delce is still talking to China and has channels behind the scenes with Putin. That's a naive thought to believe that that isn't what's happening. But then Donald Trump wants someone in the Maduro regime who he feels he can control, right?
52:58He views Delcy as his Pam Bondi or as Kristi Noem, someone who's dispensable when he needs them to be dispensable, who will just do what he does. And that's his kind of worldview that shapes all of these things. So from the very outset, when Donald Trump started talking, this was what, three weeks ago at this point, four weeks ago when Trump was saying that he and the Ayatollah were going to work together and control the Strait of Hormuz together. The moment he signaled that about three weeks ago or four weeks ago or so, that signaled the ultimate weakness. And Iran's like, okay, we got it. There was other signs too, but that's what you're looking for, to be shoulder to shoulder with the Ayatollah to control the Strait of Hormuz.
53:40So what message does that also send to people in Iran who may otherwise be sympathetic to you to stand up to the regime if they know the best case scenario is Donald Trump and the Ayatollah forming a joint venture LLC together and going into business together. I mean, that very framing of things is destructive and already undermines any ability to lift up a popular support to the extent it existed and certainly doesn't exist right now anymore. The idea that beaming Trump and Netanyahu's image and name, image, and likeness into the homes of people in Iran would be a net plus and that that's the way to go about it.
54:24I mean, they did things like that. I mean, regardless of all the intelligence the United States has and the military and the sophistication and all the weapons in the world, in the hands of someone who is weak, who is insecure, who's a malignant narcissist, who thinks they know everything when they know nothing, who tries to cast the other side in terms that are just completely inaccurate. Someone who's out there saying, oh, what are they going to shoot us with? Their BB guns? What do they got, BB guns? No, they have Shahid drones by the thousands. They have ballistic missiles probably still by the thousands.
55:02They have FPV drones that they've now given to other country, to their militia groups in other countries, along with sophisticated ways to evade the drone jammers. So that's what we've got going on there. You know, and then he gives this deranged press conference where he's like, I killed Soleimani. And if I didn't kill him, things would be much worse today. And you know who else I killed? Bin Laden. I'm the reason that Bin Laden got killed. What are you, what are you talking about? You're the reason that Bin Laden got killed. Again, this is demented stuff. Here, play this clip. It was so easy.
55:37I terminated that and then the B-2 bombers. And I did one other thing. I had killed Qasem Soleimani, who was an evil genius. And the reason I did it, I heard he was going to knock out five of our military bases. And had he lived, I believe we would be fighting perhaps a different Iran right now because because he's never he's never been replaced, you know, and I also I did one other, but this one was not picked up. Osama bin Laden. If you read my book, I said, you got to take him out one year before the World Trade Center came down. So I wish you'd read the book. Pass it to you, Jordi, but basically three times the amount of military bases that he just reference, have already been destroyed in the war.
56:3113 American military bases right now in the region have been fully evacuated and have been pounded and pummeled by Iran right now. And so, again, there's those realities of what's happened on the ground. And Jordy, he's saying that he's the reason.
56:48The MeidasTouch Brothers:I just say before Jordy goes, I feel like that's like saying, you know, after PlayStation 1 came out, I was like, they got to make a PlayStation 2. They should have taken my advice. And then they took my advice. So I am the creator of the PlayStation. Isn't that like the same logic? Like, okay, dude. That is quite the comparison, B. But I think you're onto something there. Look, I'm not saying this for clicks. I'm not saying this for clout or whatever. And I'm certainly not saying this to get Donald Trump out of any future potential prosecution that we all would like to see around here. But this is not a stable man.
57:30This is not a quote unquote stable genius. This person is really not in their right mind. When he's up there speaking the way he is, it is so deeply embarrassing to me as an American that I have to say, that's my president, right? That's not the position of how it was taught to me growing up, of how someone behaves themselves and acts. It really, like, it hurts me to a level that I can't even truly, like, define when I see him up there. And quite frankly, like, I think all Americans, I think everyone that's watching that, they feel a certain shame to them that we have to say, that's our president.
58:08it. That's the person who's supposed to get us out of the situation. He said, we won and no, now we're going to bomb them. And now we need more money to bomb them. And we've actually destroyed all their facilities. And, and we've already, we've done all these great things. This guy's a maniac, right? This, this guy is truly out of his damn mind. There is nobody steering this ship. And he surrounded himself by a bunch of yes men, by a bunch of people that just want to talk about him and how great he is. It is quite literally the most dangerous position that we could be in as a country that this person has the nuclear codes.
58:43And I'm not ruling it out that he wouldn't use those. I'm not going to dive into conspiracies or whatever, but we're charting into some really uncharted waters. This is some really scary stuff that we're witnessing play out because again, he's got no one next to him that's going to check him. That's going to be like, hey, maybe if we did it this way or this way. No. And this guy is so far gone mentally, in my opinion, that he will do whatever just to leave his mark on this country and on the world. And it terrifies me. It genuinely terrifies me, Brett. You know, one data point I want to bring up as well.
59:17This is, you know, we've been seeing this trend happen, but the United Kingdom will refuse to allow the United States to use its air bases, particularly the Royal Air Force Base, Fairford and Diego Garcia, which long-range strategic bombers with the U.S. Air Force had previously utilized on a case-by-case basis to carry out strikes in Iran for missions that target Iranian bridges, power plants, and other civilian infrastructure, citing concerns that such strikes could harm civilians and constitute war crimes, senior officials are telling IPAPER. So we already know Spain and France and Italy and Austria and Switzerland.
1:00:02And now we're seeing the people were saying, all right, UK, he keeps on attacking you. When are you going to step up in the UK saying right now, whatever your mission is here, we will be held responsible for war. Keir Starmer and all the UK, they will sit on war tribunals in the future. That's where this is heading, in my opinion. This is heading to war tribunals in the future. These are war, undisputed war crimes that he's leaving a trail of publicly. And other countries are now like, we ain't doing it. We're not doing this. And that's a big development, by the way, that the UK is out. We'll be right back after our last quick break of the show.
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1:04:19Trump's quotes since the war began. Brett and Geordie, shall I share it? March 3rd, we won the war. March 7th, we defeated Iran. March 9th, we must attack Iran. March 9th, the war is ending almost completely and very beautifully. March 11th, you never like to say too early you won, but we won. In the first hour, it was over. March 12th, we did win, but we haven't won completely yet. March 13th, we won the war. March 14th, please help us. March 15th, if you don't help us, I will certainly remember it. March 16th, actually, we don't need any help at all. March 16th, I was just testing to see who's listening to me.
1:04:53Also, on March 16th. If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad. March 17th. We neither need nor want NATO's help. March 17th. I don't need congressional approval to withdraw from NATO. March 18th. Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz. March 19th. U.S. allies need to get a grip, step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz. March 20th. NATO are cowards. March 21st. The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it. We don't need to open it. March 22nd. This is the last time I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the straight. March 22nd.
1:05:29Iran is dead. March 23rd. We had a very good and productive talk with Iran. March 24th. We're making progress. March 25th. They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I'm not going to tell you what the present is, but it was a very significant prize. Also March 26th. Make a deal or we'll just keep blowing them away. March 27th. We don't have to be there for NATO. March 28th. Nothing really major, he said on that day. March 29th. Claimed talks were progressing. March 30th. Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately or face devastating consequences.
1:06:03March 31st. Claimed a deal was very close and then Iran would do the right thing. April 1st. We'll see what happens very soon. April 2nd. A deal was very likely, but we'll continue strikes if not. April 3rd. Something big is going to happen. April 4th, Iran must comply immediately or face further consequences. April 5th, open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah.
1:06:30The MeidasTouch Brothers:Are you getting COVID PTSD with that list right there? I mean, I couldn't be. You are so right. You are so right. It's the correlation between how he's handling this and COVID. I mean, he said a day one, right? When you see that list and it's read the way I just presented it and drafted the way that Ron drafted it, you don't think in Iran they're reviewing it that way? Like, you know, I know Donald Trump doesn't think they have intelligence services and they're all running around with BB guns in caves. That's not what's happening. What do you think the French intelligence service, the UK intelligence services, Australia, Canada, European Union more broadly, Germany, Japan, South Korea, South America, Central America, Africa, Mexico, you know, other Asian countries.
1:07:25How do you think they're reviewing it at the highest level? Like, they're all probably saying that Donald Trump is just a demented human being who's basically like possessed and there's no reliability there. you know their strategy seems to be kind of manage it you know you know manage it like a patient in in a hospice like manage it yes donald okay you want to send mark rudd over the secretary general mark rudd will show up who else do you want to send over you know send over this person you know and they kind of embarrass themselves but like you know it's like they're showing up at the you know i'm not trying to be rude here you know but it's like they're showing up at the facility and they're saying, okay, Donald, yeah, we hear you, we hear you, because I think their plan, if they think they can do it, but I think it's naive, is to run out the clock, keep NATO functioning at some level that at least doesn't just totally destroy the existence of the organization, hope that the individuals, the generals who work in NATO can kind of keep it going as much as possible, by the way, while Donald Trump fires him, I mean, let's not forget that Donald Trump fired the army chief of staff at the end of last week.
1:08:49That's the top position in the army. A four star general got fired in the middle of a war who had massive amounts of spirit experience in drone warfare. The guy's name is Randy George, like one of the most beloved people in the United States army, right, was fired by Pete Hex of the Donald Trump at the end of last week. And he joins 22 or so top admirals, generals, military leaders over the past 12 to 14 months. And a number of them have been fired in the past few weeks. By the way, Iran posted an image, we did regime change, and it shows all of the admirals and generals and military officials who the Trump regime has fired.
1:09:29But with those people comes huge amounts of experience. So this idea that you can try to hope that the Randy Georges of the world and the CQ Brown, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that they can exist in this. The moment they exercise competence, exit gets rid of you right away. You get fired. So to me, the only thing Donald Trump responds to is force to force. So the only way you can deal with it is not to appease it. It's sad to say, but if you're NATO, you have to call his bluff and you got to be like, all right, it's done. Why would we want to be a part of an organization where you keep lifting the sanctions against Russia and helping Russia attack your own troops?
1:10:11Where you're going out of your way to help Russia and praise China and say you're more focused on your meeting with Xi Jinping coming up and you think they're your friends. I think you just have to say, fine, we don't want you. And then that's the only way you can teach him or deal with him is just to say no. And then he'll do his temper tantrum. But that's why, to your point, Jordy, he's a bad business person who's bankrupted so many things. Eventually, after dragging things on, turning a bad decision into a worse, a worse into a catastrophe, a catastrophe into a bankruptcy, when having some layers of accountability may have been able to fix some of the problems, the malicious problems he may have created in these organizations, eventually someone has said no.
1:10:59And then it blows it up when the bluff gets called. And so there's really no other way to treat it because appeasing it, remember what I said earlier in this episode, the moment you exist within his framework, you're now residing in an area that's already made you compromised, right? That's why Iran at a sophisticated level of negotiation says, we're not even negotiating within your framework. You could come into our framework or there's no negotiation that exists at all, period. Now, we saw what happened right when Greenland stood up to Donald Trump. And by the way, that was one of the things that Donald Trump said at the press conference today.
1:11:43You know, I was done with NATO the moment. We don't have to play the clip, but I'm done with NATO the moment Greenland, the moment they wouldn't give me Greenland, I was done with NATO.
1:11:52The MeidasTouch Brothers:That was so fricking. It's so telling also, right? That because they wouldn't, they wouldn't give him Greenland and they wouldn't appease him on that. They wouldn't let him take over a sovereign nation. I mean, that's a real, that's really like a effed up thing to say. I'm like, what are we even talking about at a certain point? Right? It's like, in no other facet of our lives, would anyone accept this mentally unhinged individual running running whatever, you name it, running their company, being the principal of a school, being the owner or GM of a sports team. So why does corporate media hold his hand, the president of the United States hand, as he further goes down this just insane devolvement of a brain?
1:12:37It's crazy to me.
1:12:39The MeidasTouch Brothers:The fact that NATO should allow one of its members to conquer a country is just like, I mean, the delusions are just wild. Like this is somebody who like, frankly, needs to be institutionalized. This is like absolute insanity. Let me show you a few things that he said, though, because I think even though I'm saying he said those things, I think it's important to bring the receipt, though, and share with you. So here a reporter says, so you said Iranians would be mad if you stopped these attacks, But why would they want you to blow up their infrastructure to cut off their power? Like you're saying they want you to blow them up?
1:13:21Here, play this clip. Success of this operation. Yes, please. Thank you, Mr. President. You've said Iranians would be mad if you stopped these attacks. But why would they want you to blow up their infrastructure to cut off their power? Wouldn't that be punishing Iranians for the actions of the regime? They would be willing to. They would be willing. And it's suffering. They would be willing to suffer that in order to have freedom. the iranians have and we've had numerous intercepts please keep bombing bombs that are dropping near their homes please keep bombing do it and these are people that are living where the bombs are exploding and when we leave and we're not hitting those areas they're saying please come back come back come back these are the people i don't know what they do all i can tell you is they want freedom.
1:14:09They want freedom. Please, please, please bomb us. And then he this is the longer clip right here that I'll show where he goes. We have a plan to basically blow up all of Iran. We're going to blow up this facility and that here he goes and talks about the war crimes he wants to commit. Let's play. We have a plan because of the power of our military where every bridge in Iran will be decimated by 12 o 'clock tomorrow night, where every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning, exploding and never to be used again. I mean, complete demolition by 12 o 'clock. And it'll happen over a period of four hours if we wanted to.
1:14:50We don't want that to happen. We may even get involved with helping them rebuild their nation. And you know what? If that's the case, the last thing we want to do is start with power plants, which are among the most expensive thing and bridges. You saw the bridge. The bridge went. We were very close to a deal. and then i got a call from mr whitkoff mr kushner and jd saying i think they're breaking the deal i said tell them that's okay don't worry about it but tell them to look out their window and watch and within 45 minutes i gave the order to knock out the biggest bridge i gave the order knock out the biggest bridge in i believe the middle east but the biggest bridge in iran and within 10 minutes after I gave that order, that bridge was over.
1:15:43So do I want to do that? No. Do I want to destroy their infrastructure? No. It will take them 100 years to rebuild. Right now, if we left today, it would take them 20 years to rebuild their country, and it would never be as good as it was. And the only way they're going to be able to rebuild their country is to utilize the genius of the United States of America. Sick language right there. And then here's what he says about NATO being a paper tiger. And I have to show you him saying the Greenland thing, just so there's no dispute that I'm being hyperbolic or making it up or exaggerating. Like it's so damaging and deranged that you have to hear him say it.
1:16:22Let's play it. You know, NATO is a paper tiger. Now he's coming to see me on Wednesday, as you know, he's a wonderful guy. Secretary General is great. and Mark Ruta. He's a great person, but he's got... And you know, it all began with, if you want to know the truth, Greenland. We want Greenland. They don't want to give it to us. And I said, bye-bye. Okay, thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. Absolutely, absolutely deranged. Brett and Jordy. Real quick, Brett, before you go. So I was watching CNBC's coverage of this. I don't know why. That's where I decided to watch this one. after that comment that's your rage mate that's my right it keeps me fired up cmpc man i i hate watch that program and so you know after that when he's like all right everyone see you later after all of the crazy shit he just said and by the way slightly before that moment and i'm gonna say a bad word here because he said it and it's gonna be jarring because it's fucked up is that he said that he had a conversation with kim john un and kim john un called joe biden mentally retarded and he said it twice and he kept saying it and he said it loud and it caught my attention because I was half watching this and I was like, holy shit, did he really just say that?
1:17:37Not one reporter blinked. No one, you know, was like caught off guard by it. That's just what's come. That's what we've come to expect from Donald Trump. It is absolutely disgusting his behavior on a day in and day out basis. We're not going to play that clip here. But when CNBC got the coverage back after all of that went down you know you know what their response was to all that they go so that was Donald Trump addressing the media today I'm about the war in Iran and and they just like business as usual man business as usual and it just made me think to myself it's like when you know the people out there not anyone watching here of course but when the people out there get upset with like Midas titling for videos like Donald Trump loses it what what do you want me to say when he is up there saying shit like that he's like in no way shape or form is any of this normal and i'm not going to gaslight our audience into thinking any of this is normal and we're not going to do that here as a network this is unprecedented shit this stuff is bonker land and you can't treat it like cnbc treated it when they got the coverage back when they go so that was donald trump addressing the media today about the war in ira i'm like what are you talking about I was losing.
1:18:50I hate watching that program, Brett.
1:18:52The MeidasTouch Brothers:I feel like, have you heard about people going to rage rooms? Have you ever heard of rage rooms? Yeah, I've heard. I've heard of these things. I've had friends go to rage rooms and they love it. For those who don't know, rage rooms are places you could go to. You pay money to do this. And to get your anger out, you go to this room where you're protected and you're wearing proper equipment and stuff, and you break shit and you destroy stuff and you throw TVs on the ground and you smash things. I've never done it. I've actually had friends who have done this. If you've done it, you can let us know in the comments.
1:19:23The MeidasTouch Brothers:I feel like you watching CNBC is your rage room. You go in there, you get out all your aggression on the TV. Thankfully, the TV, I think, is still standing. And it just allows you to - Spikes my cortisol levels, Brett. Spikes your cortisol levels to dangerous levels. Brett, I'll toss it to you, but I think this was a good comprehensive update of everything that's going on. Obviously, stay tuned to our reporting throughout the day. About every 90 minutes, we do new breaking updates on everything that's going on, whether it's in the war or throughout the country. The only one piece of news I don't want to forget about is the Epstein investigation.
1:20:05And there's a lot of news. We're going to see the impact on our economy that this is all having. But I also want to remember that we should not forget about how this all started, which was a Trump regime cover-up of the Epstein files. And now with Pam Bondi gone, Todd Blanche, the new acting attorney general, says we should never even talk about Epstein anymore. And so I'm glad to hear the Democrats and the House Oversight Committee making sure Howard Lutnick shows up and that the investigation regarding this cover-up doesn't end. And I know that's talked about a lot less. That's why I'm going to make sure everybody knows we're very focused on covering it here on the Midas Touch Network.
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1:21:15The MeidasTouch Brothers:Jordy, take us out. Shout out to the Midas Mighty!
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Today on the MeidasTouch Podcast, we break down one of the most chaotic and alarming days of the US-Israel war with Iran: Trump held a wild White House press conference threatening to demolish every bridge and power plant in Iran by midnight tomorrow, casually revealed seemingly classified details about US special forces operations inside the country, and claimed Iranians are "willing to suffer" the destruction of their own infrastructure. We cover the recent Israeli airstrikes including the destruction of Iran's largest petrochemical facility and a bunker-buster attack on Sharif University — Iran's MIT — plus a high-risk plan that’s been presented to Trump by the Pentagon. Meanwhile, feeling emboldened, Iran sends back a "maximalist" counter-proposal through Pakistan after rejecting Trump’s ask for a ceasefire. Ben, Brett, and Jordy discuss all this and more.
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