MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 7/15/25

18:33Ben Meiselas:But Ghislaine, I know you want to get out the list now. So let me try to do you a solid by giving you a retrial opportunity. And by the way, if you think, oh, man, you sound like a conspiratorial person. Well, do you remember back in 2019 when Alex Acosta was, he had to, he resigned, but not because Trump forced him out. I think he felt once he was uncovered, I think he felt the shame and he left on his own or something. But remember, Donald Trump had his back. Trump's like lots of people at the time thought Acosta did a good deal with Jeffrey Epstein. That's what Trump said when the allegations came out that Acosta entered into the non-prosecution deal with Epstein.

19:15Ben Meiselas:Here, watch what Acosta said. This was 2019 during Trump's first administration. People forget this clip. Let's play it.

19:21Brett Meiselas:He's a great labor secretary, not a good labor secretary. He's done a fantastic job. He's a friend of everybody in the administration. And I got a call this morning early from Alex, and I think he did a very good job yesterday. Under a lot of pressure. He did a fantastic job and he explained it. He made a deal that people were happy with and then 12 years later they're not happy with it. You'll have to figure all of that out. But the fact is he has been a fantastic Secretary of Labor and Alex called me this morning and he wanted to see me and I actually said well we have the press right out here so perhaps you just want to say it to the press but i just want to let you know this was him not me because i'm with him he was a he's a tremendous talent he's a hispanic man he went to harvard a great student and in so many ways i just hate what he's saying now because we're gonna miss him brett jordy he said people

20:25Jordy Meiselas:thought it was a great deal at the time great deal yeah i mean it's one of those situations where You say where there's smoke, there's fire. There's a blaze. It is blazing. And there's so much. There's so much evidence. And like Ben said, these are not our theories about what may or may not have happened. These are not, oh, we think that this could have been this or that or whatever. These are the undisputed facts that we are giving. We certainly have a lot of theories we could get into, but these are the undisputed facts. And I've already seen the change in language from a lot of people, a lot of MAGA people, people who are close to Trump's orbit, people who are Mar-a-Lago guests, people who are MAGA influencers who go to the White House.

21:07Jordy Meiselas:They're all saying kind of different variations right now of we need to free Ghislaine Maxwell because actually Ghislaine Maxwell was the victim of the system because this whole thing was a hoax by the Democrats. And we now know that's clear because Donald Trump is saying it. So why should this woman be charged with crimes that this man, Jeffrey Epstein did on behalf of Democrats, why she was just a victim in all this, right? I mean, I've seen it multiple times. There's literally a White House new media reporter, she calls herself one of these people who are in the briefing room. And this woman wears a shirt that says Free Ghislaine, literally.

21:46Jordy Meiselas:The shirt says Free Ghislaine on it. And she's been wearing this now for at least months. We've been covering it on MidasNews.com. And she right now on her Instagram is pushing for a retrial or a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell. She says the following, I'll be pushing for a retrial or a pardon until it happens, especially in light of recent news. What's the recent news? Donald Trump's statements. Everyone should wonder why one woman is serving 20 years for trafficking minors to no one. Note that language there, to no one. Why? Because Donald Trump call said, case closed, no more Epstein case. We're not going to be looking into this anymore.

22:22Jordy Meiselas:There were no clients. And so anybody who is possibly under investigation, you're free. You're free. You're free to go. So people are taking this as, oh, so why is Ghislaine in jail after all this? She's not the only person. There is a British socialite, Lady Victoria Hervey, who's in Trump's orbit as well. She reshared these posts saying that Epstein had no clients and that there was no trafficking. There are photos of her and Kash Patel, photos of her and Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago. And she said, keep in mind, there was no trafficking, no clients, only innocent victims who were extorted for money by corrupt attorneys through a calculated scheme of blackmail.

22:58Jordy Meiselas:You see what the theory is right there, that Ghislaine Maxwell, she is the victim in all this, not the actual victims. This right now is kind of just what we're seeing out of the Trump administration. What did we see? What was the big story that was released a few days ago that I don't think has gotten enough attention. Prince Andrew, who's been under investigation for all of his ties to Epstein. Guess what? That got dropped when all this got dropped, right? FBI no longer looking into it. Prince Andrew's basically been under a self-imposed travel ban. I think he's only left the UK once out of fear that authorities might get him.

23:32Jordy Meiselas:Well, now he's free to travel around. He's free to go. FBI says no clients. You're free. You're safe. Nobody did anything wrong here. That's Trump's FBI who's letting these people off the hook. So you could talk even about hypotheticals about is Trump on the list? Is Trump not on the list? Is there a list? What's Trump going to do in the future? But we know what Trump's done already in the past. We know what he did three days ago. He dropped the case on all the clients. So I don't know how people aren't picking this up. Donald Trump has let the clients off the hook. All these MAGA people who are saying, we need to know who is on this list, this list, this list, this list, the list that they've been pushing.

24:09Jordy Meiselas:I don't know if there's a list. I know there are a lot of files. I know there are a lot of court documents. I know there are probably a lot of names in this court. I don't know, even know if there's a specific list. They've been calling for the list. Pam Bonney said the list was on her desk, but they've been calling for all this stuff. And meanwhile, Donald Trump goes, oh, all the people who may or may not be on that list, you're free. You're free to go. Enjoy. Enjoy life. I got your back. While throwing Ghislaine Maxwell, as Ben said, this golden ticket now to to argue for a retrial in her case, to argue for a mistrial.

24:37Jordy Meiselas:What we're seeing right now is just corruption at the highest scale. And we're seeing Donald Trump and the Republican Party actively covering up for Jeffrey Epstein. We are seeing it play out in real time. You want to talk about the elites covering up for these powerful people who exploited young girls? That's what's happening as we speak. This isn't something we need to dig in the past for. It's happening now.

25:01Brett Meiselas:Well, this is also what we're seeing too, Brett, perfectly said, is this is almost a way for Trump to give Ghislaine a pardon without formally doing it. Look, we all know he wished her well. He wished her well, everyone. And we know from credible reporting that he also wanted to look into potentially pardoning her under his first term. So with all of this that's happening right now, I just want to look at some other facts. Epstein dies, which also isn't getting enough attention, dies in quotes there. Take that for what you will. under Trump's first presidency in 2019, right? So now if you're one of these people who really want to get to the bottom of it, we're looking at some facts here.

25:38Brett Meiselas:Epstein dies under Trump's first term. Trump's second term, what does he do? He lets everyone walk free. And you're the MAGA Republican Party. You guys are supposed to be the party that wants to uncover the truth. And meanwhile, the only thing Trump is seemingly doing is letting Ghislaine kind of actually walk straight out of prison. What is happening right now? It should be like, people should be fed up because at the heart of it, we just want the truth. You know what I'm saying? If there are Democrats on that list, expose them all. Put it out there. We've said it from day one. It's not a Republican or Democrat thing.

26:13Brett Meiselas:We don't give a shit about that. If there are credible names on that list who committed the horrific acts that they are being accused of, expose them all. And this is what the MAGA Republican Party was saying as well, up until their boy Donnie Trump was like, hey, you know that Epstein stuff? Let's not look at that anymore. Now, the issue for Trump is because he's so publicly spoken about this for so long, and it made it such an ethos of his campaign and who he is that he's going to release these files, more than half of his base is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Donnie, no, you said that we'd get the, you said that we'd get the list.

26:44Brett Meiselas:What are you talking about? You had all those influencers come to the White House, they held up those white binders. Is that what you meant by release the list? Was have these guys hold up the white binders when they leave the White House and And that was releasing the list. No, Donnie, we want to know. And Trump can't help himself. He's a maniac. He keeps tweeting left and right. Everyone stop focusing on the Epstein files. And I saw the Google search since he tweeted that. I mean, the results between Trump and Epstein on just generic Google search skyrocketing. Streisand effect. Streisand effect times a thousand.

27:17Brett Meiselas:It's called the Trump Epstein effect. Yeah, we should start to call it Paul. That's exactly what it is. And the last thing I have to say, Benji, before I toss it back to you, Mike Lawler out of New York. He's not getting out of this segment scot-free. This is one of these guys that pegs himself as not a MAGA Republican, but the dude can't help himself and not go against Trump at any turn that he has. Constituents want to know the real story here with Epstein. We're from New York. I know a lot of New Yorkers who want to know what the heck is going on. For Mike Lawler, who again, pegs himself as, I'm just a regular Republican.

27:50Brett Meiselas:No, you're not, buddy. You know, because if you go against the demigod that is Donald Trump, you actually don't consider yourself a Republican in 2025. And that's pathetic, man. You're a loser, Benji.

28:00Ben Meiselas:Well, Lawler took away all the people's Medicaid after saying that he would never do anything with Medicaid when it comes to that.

28:07Jordy Meiselas:He was so concerned about it. You know, we should mention, too, because we need to mention the people in Donald Trump's ear, right? And so who else is speaking about this case right now? Somebody who, honestly, if I were him, I wouldn't be speaking about this case. And that's Trump's former lawyer, Alan Dershowitz. If I were the Dersh man, Mr. I left my underwear on when I got the massage at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion, Dersh, I would not be really speaking much about this. I'd lay a little low. But Dershowitz came out and he said the following. He said, quote, certainly Ghislaine Maxwell should get a commutation.

28:38Jordy Meiselas:The sentence was way, way, way in excess of anything she was alleged to have done. And he also called her a victim and said that he was going to be asking and he was calling on Donald Trump to issue a pardon to Ghislaine Maxwell. You're looking at the people around Trump, the people closest to Trump, right? And what they are saying, people who have been in Trump's life for a very long time. And they are all kind of spouting the same thing about this topic. Yeah.

29:03Ben Meiselas:And one other data point as well, that non-prosecution agreement that was entered with the feds in 2007, 2008 said that we'll basically defer prosecution and leave it to the state to decide. You all know who the attorney general of Florida was during most of the relevant time period. Ding, ding, ding. Attorney General Pam Bondi was the attorney general of Florida during the critical time period when Epstein could have been prosecuted. So in many ways, a lot of the files would be files that Pam Bondi's office are very, very much aware of. She doesn't have to go searching. There are files, too. We'll talk about that.

29:41Ben Meiselas:And I want to talk about a little bit more when we come back on that. But then I want to talk about Donald Trump's trade war against the world backfiring in his face as at the end of last week, he imposed tariffs on Canada, on Mexico, on the European Union. He's very proud of his letters that were written like a fifth grader. He says his letters are the deals. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Donald Trump's bizarre appearance at FIFA when he basically he stole the trophy also from Chelsea, the team. they had to get like a replica trophy because he literally stole the real trophy that's now in the Oval Office.

30:15Ben Meiselas:Again, he just steals people's stuff. He steals their valor. He steals their trophies. I'm not making that up. He literally kept the trophy. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Donald Trump's big announcement. I'm going to be tough. I don't know why people are reporting this like, oh, there was big news. Donald Trump's going to be tough on Russia. I mean, he literally just said, I'm going to basically do what Congress already authorized already that I interfered with. So I'm going to stop interfering with what Congress already authorized, but I'm going to wait another 50 days to determine if I'm going to put secondary sanctions on Russia.

30:47Ben Meiselas:And also I have no clue what I'm talking about. So I'm going to call the secondary sanctions tariffs. I'm going to tariff Russia. He has no clue what he's talking about. I want to remind everybody, become a member of our YouTube channel. It's one of the ways we've been growing. We have no outside investors. So those YouTube memberships have been hugely helpful in our growth. We've got big announcements about that growth with Midas Canada. We're also looking to build out Midas Australia. We're building out other YouTube channels of some major, major figures who you all know about. You'll be excited about the other channels we're launching.

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34:48Brett Meiselas:Benji, where to next?

34:51Ben Meiselas:You know, I've always said there needs to be a basic floor of character when it comes to somebody in the White House. It's why we focused so much on Donald Trump's connections with Epstein, but also Donald Trump's words in general. I mean, you shouldn't have someone in the White House who's on tape or in private or in any setting at all is saying that you should, that if you're a rich person, you know, you grab women by their genitals because you're rich and that they let you do it. And that's what he said when he was, you know, with Access Hollywood. I mean, that's, it's a, it's a big deal. And then he was asked about it in a deposition where he was then found liable in a case.

35:34Ben Meiselas:He was found liable by a jury of sexual assault. Separately, in a fraud case, he was criminally prosecuted and convicted on 34 felony counts of fraud. Separately, he was found liable for defamation in front of a federal jury. Separately, a judge found him liable for making fraudulent valuations. And by the way, you can see all of that conduct and behavior and low character and his criminality and his just disgustingness, it permeates his regime because it permeated his businesses. It's why he bankrupted things. It's why people hated this guy, yet he kept on getting the media attention because in that reality TV-driven world, it got clicks and, oh, so outrageous.

36:22Ben Meiselas:Oh my God, look at that. It shows, I think, just the overall decay of a society. It's like, how are we okay with that? A little bit later in the show, you know, we're going to show you this faith lunch that they had. And it's not shocking that the leader of Trump's faith lunch and the Trump faith office, you know, is someone who's a grifter, right? It's someone who's been called by, whether you're religious or not. I mean, this is someone who's been called a false teacher by Christians, you know, and she's out there living in mansions off the tax exempt status of her church. She speaks gibberish, which is like, I'm speaking in tongues to God.

37:01Ben Meiselas:And it's like, what are you doing? What the hell is that? And then she's like, we need you to buy golden eggs for$1 ,200. We're going to sell you golden eggs on Easter. I mean, we'll show you that video in a little bit. This is Trump's crew. Like they're all just like bad people. And I'll show you. I mean, Donald Trump at a deposition in the E. Jean Carroll sexual assault case where he was found liable civilly for sexual assault. He was asked by E. Jean Carroll's lawyer what he means when he says he couldn't sexually assault someone because he doesn't find them attractive or they're not his type.

37:41Ben Meiselas:And then Trump looks at the lawyer asking the question and is like, well, I wouldn't sexually assault you because you're not my type. That's what Trump said during a deposition. Here, play the clip. When you said in that video that Ms. Leeds would not be your first choice.

37:56Jordy Meiselas:You were referring to her physical looks, correct?

38:00Brett Meiselas:Just the overall, I look at her, I see her, I hear what she says, whatever. You wouldn't be a choice of mine either, to be honest with you. I hope you're not insulted. I would not, under any circumstances, have any interest in you. I'm honest when I say it. She, I would not have any interest.

38:19Ben Meiselas:It's a sexual assault case. And that's what he's saying. It's on tape. Like if that doesn't repulse you, like if that what I just showed you is not disqualifying to you. You know, I'm not going to I don't I don't I'm not I'm just like thinking, like, could you imagine if Obama was in a deposition in a sexual assault case where he was found liable and he's on video talking to the lawyer and saying what you just heard him? What you just heard, you'll be disqualified. What are we talking like? Like, what are we even talking about here? You think he's on the Epstein list? He already is. I've seen his name in Epstein's black book.

38:57Ben Meiselas:I've seen his name on the flight logs. I've seen him say Epstein's a great guy. You heard what he said right there. And by the way, when Trump was on tape saying that when you're rich, you get to sexually assault women and they let you do it because you're rich. He was asked about it at the deposition in the E.G. and Carroll case. And watch how he responds. Let's play it.

39:17Jordy Meiselas:And you say, and again, this has become very famous in this video, I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it.

39:29Brett Meiselas:You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything. That's what you said, correct? Well, historically, that's true with stars.

39:37Jordy Meiselas:It's true with stars that they can grab women by the pussy?

39:40Brett Meiselas:Well, that's what, if you look over the last million years, I guess that's been largely true. Not always, but largely true. Unfortunately or fortunately. And you consider yourself to be a star? I think you can say that, yeah.

39:57Ben Meiselas:He says, fortunately? You heard him say fortunately. He said unfortunately too. He goes, fortunately or unfortunately. Why would that be fortunately? And then do you also see there that he has to also say a million? Like, why do you, like, for a million years? for a million years, rich men have been sexually assaulting women and you get away with it because you're rich. I mean, every, and again, what more evidence do we need than his own, than his own words right there? You know, and that's why I go back and I show it because character matters. And we, you know, we don't have to go down this. Oh, I wonder what the file say.

40:35Ben Meiselas:He's saying it right there in front of us. Anyway, I'll, I'll leave it at that. Y 'all, y 'all can go back and, and I do deeper dives in other videos. But I want to talk about a few other things. First, Donald Trump going to this FIFA match and trying to steal the valor of the Chelsea Football Club's three-nothing victory. Trump goes on stage. Our audio listeners can't see this, obviously, but our YouTube viewers can. You have the head of FIFA now trying to basically push Donald Trump to the back because the team is trying to celebrate and Trump wants the photo op for his social media. So he wants to be with the team as they hold it up so he can say, I'm a champion.

41:21Ben Meiselas:So he goes on stage. The players are looking at each other like, what the hell is he doing? Like we got to, is he going to stand here? And then they post a photo, Chelsea with Donald Trump, not on the stage. And then Trump steals the original trophy. He takes it to the Oval Office so that Chelsea Football Club is left with the replica version of it. Now, New York Post and other right-wing regime media acted like Donald Trump was celebrated. Their headlines were literally Trump gets standing ovation at FIFA. Roll tape. Let's see if it's a standing ovation. Here, let's play.

42:12Ben Meiselas:He was getting booed ruthlessly. Shout out to called activism for first finding that clip right there.

42:19Jordy Meiselas:And then multiple occasions, by the way, let me say he was booed twice because I think that was the portion where they were doing the national anthem. They showed Donald Trump on the jumbotron. Everybody started booing. And so they quickly cut away from him. That was number one. Number two, when Donald Trump took the field at the end for the trophy ceremony, when he stepped on the field, once again, the crowd erupted in boos. I saw another clip. I wish I had it here right now. But another clip as he's walking on the field and you see all the people in the crowd giving Trump the middle finger and booing him.

42:49Jordy Meiselas:They go boo. And then you see all the fingers out. And then you see all those propaganda rags like the Post and everything have the nerve to write. Donald Trump gets loud applause, thunderous applause. it just shows you how this propaganda works. And that's why, you know, I said in the beginning, and I'll repeat it now, if these are your sources that you are trusting, if you're somebody who picks up the New York Post and thinks that you're being fed the truth, right? They're just telling it how it is. If you're somebody who watches Charlie Kirk or watches Benny Johnson, watch one of these people and think, oh, they're just telling me how it is.

43:18Jordy Meiselas:Guess what? They ain't, they are lying to you. They are running cover right now for Donald Trump. They're running cover for Jeffrey Epstein. They're running cover for all of these crimes. And you just can't forget that fact. Yeah.

43:30Ben Meiselas:So then by the way, did you all see Christy Gnome there on the bottom left? Like, isn't there something for you to be doing Christy Gnome other than going to this FIFA match? But you know, they were, you know, partying on Mar-a-Lago when the flash floods were taking place, you know, on July 4th, July 5th, July 6th. Trump was there like licking his ice cream cones and playing golf. This past weekend too, Donald Trump posted how he won another golf tournament at his club and he was like showing a photo that he was the club champion again. It's like Kim Jong-un style stuff. This is a real post. Our audio listeners can't see it, but we have the post up from Trump's official account saying in between meetings and phone calls, it was a great honor to win the member member championship at Trump National Bedminster.

44:16Ben Meiselas:Gross, no strokes with Tommy Uricali as my partner. The many other competitors were not only great golfers, but also terrific people. Our editor-in-chief Ron Filipkowski goes, another championship for Trump today in one of his tournaments. The guy never loses in his own events. I mean, just so you know what normal things would happen right now while you had these flash floods taking place, Biden wouldn't just show up for a photo op and, by the way, say that you're evil if you question the response of the federal government and state and local officials, which Donald Trump says. You are evil. You're an evil person or the governor.

44:48Ben Meiselas:That's what losers do. Losers. We like football in Texas. That's what losers do. And then Chip Roy, the MAGA Republican Congress member from that district. Did you hear what the governor said? Why are you such losers asking what could be done? We need to just focus on what we're doing now. You shouldn't be asking any questions at all. So that's what Christy Noem was doing. By the way, J.D. Vance, he wasn't in FIFA, but he was prancing around Disneyland. The guy like has lived in California.

45:18Brett Meiselas:I think we lost Benji. I want to comment really quickly on the Chelsea situation because I just want to, sorry to go back to this, Brett, but I really want to talk about it for a quick second. And it's time for everybody's favorite segment. Imagine if Biden did it. Imagine if President Biden was on the stage with the winning championship team and he's being ushered off the stage by the president or whomever, like telling him, hey, hey, come to time to get off the stage. The team needs to celebrate. And the man doesn't leave the stage. Could you imagine the headlines that would take place.

45:49Jordy Meiselas:Jake Tapper would have wrote another book.

45:51Brett Meiselas:He probably would. I could tell you exactly what would happen because do you guys remember the summer of 2024 at the G7 summit when President Biden went to walk over to a paratrooper who came parachuting down? Well, he was clipped out of context, if you remember that. He was clipped walking away from Joe Biden or whomever else was there and going to shake the hands of the paratrooper who just came down. People, right-wing media, clip that. They cut out the paratrooper. So it looked like President Biden was wandering away. You could Google this. You could literally Google it right now, and you'll see all these ridiculous stories that popped up about this.

46:28Brett Meiselas:And then Reuters, to their credit, they said it was kind of a lame headline, but they fact-checked it. Clip of Biden wandering off a G7 summit lacks context. Not that it was total BS and fraudulent. And they just said it lacks context, neither here nor there. But if President Biden was on stage with a national championship, with a championship winning team, and the CEO of that league was like, hey, it's time to get off the stage. The guy's got to celebrate. And he does not walk off immediately. The outrage from corporate media. This guy has dementia. He has no idea where he is. Well, I'm looking at you, Donald.

47:01Brett Meiselas:Why aren't you getting off stage? You either lack the social cues or you're just there again, as Ben said, to do some stolen valor weird thing. And I think it's a combination of both. I think this guy has totally lost it. And he honestly, he needs handlers to help him in these situations because he's that demented at this point.

47:19Ben Meiselas:Let me show you. Here's J.D. Vance before I think I lost here. J.D. Vance prancing around right here. You can all see it. I mean, I'm not sure. Is he running to the bathroom? like I'm not even under, with all of the secret service around him, I'm not sure why you would ever need to be running at all. Yet along, that's how you run. I love how these people like, I'm an alpha male. That's how, that's how alpha, that's how alpha males run. I think that's how like ducks waddle. I'm not really sure that that's how people, but like that's the guy who goes, but anyway, he's in Disneyland. You get the point.

47:53Ben Meiselas:He's in, he, before he was in San Diego and he spends the While Trump and the regime are directing raids at California farms, someone died there, like rounding up United States citizens, disabled veterans, like as they're attacking our state in California, which if it was a country would be the fourth largest GDP in the entire world. and it is a beautiful state with lots of tourist attractions, but Trump and Vance defame it. But where do they vacation the whole summer? Vance has been in California way more than he's been in his own home in Ohio, if that's where he lives anymore. He's been spending his time in California.

48:32Ben Meiselas:Governor Newsom wrote to J.D. Vance, I hope you and your family are enjoying Disneyland while you rip apart families in California. And J.D. Vance responded to it. Thanks for asking. we are having a great time period. Literally, that's what J.D. Vance said. How ghoulish is that? And then Kristi Noem, who you saw in the video, partying it up in FEMA, she was also on the Sunday shows and she was asked about the response by the federal government. As I said earlier in the show, it's why you can't have logical discussions with these sociopaths because obviously it was a bad response, right? What happened in Texas was horrible.

49:10Ben Meiselas:Now, Now, we can have discussions. Was it the local government, the state government, the federal government's fault? Was it all of the above? Why was the camp mystic even built there in the first place? It was a four minute walk to a mountain nearby called God Mountain. That was the name of it. It was four minutes. Why couldn't an alert be issued to get the kids up there? Why did the local, the county basically steal the money from the federal government,$10 million that was supposed to be used for alarms to give themselves bonuses instead of implement it? Because they thought that money was woke money.

49:51Ben Meiselas:So they didn't want to build the alarm systems. Why didn't they use the alerts on the phones to alert people that they could have done like a major alert? Why did Doge fire all of the National Weather Service people and push them out? Six key vacancies, including the lead meteorologist coordinator. Why did it take 72 hours for the urban search and rescue team to be activated? Because Kristi Noem had a$100 ,000 requirement that she personally sign off on any expenditure. So it took 72 hours for urban search and rescue to actually be activated there? Why was it that Kristi Noem cut the call center contracts so that 85 % of calls were not returned right away by FEMA because they wanted to cut the contracts?

50:40Ben Meiselas:On July 5th, during the crisis itself, they cut the contracts? Kind of undisputed fact. There was a horrible response. This is not something that should be imitated. We should all agree and we should figure out what the problem is. Now, who's more culpable? The camp, the local government, the feds. We can have that discussion. And I'm open to that. But Christine Ohm over the weekend says, no, this is what we want to do in every state. This was the model. This was perfect. And this is how we're going to do it all the time. Texas, what happened here, we're doing it everywhere. This is what she says.

51:16Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip.

51:17Jordy Meiselas:These these emergencies need to be conducted exactly how President Trump handled this one. It was that the local responders are the ones who execute the response. The state comes in and manages it. And then the federal government comes in and supports it. And as soon as Texas asked for anything, we were there.

51:34Ben Meiselas:She says that's the perfect response. You heard her in her own words.

51:37Jordy Meiselas:They keep going back to that, right, Ben? They keep going back to it's the local response. It's supposed to be the local governments that are doing this. They're trying to put all the responsibility on the states for things that cost so much money and the things that the federal government is supposed to handle. What does the first letter of FEMA stand for? Federal. And she wants to absolve herself of any blame. Remember, they wanted to shut down this agency. They wanted to shut down FEMA. And they only started sort of kind of backtracking on that idea once shit hit the fan with this storm. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, we're not going to comment on that.

52:11Jordy Meiselas:Don't ask me about that. Don't ask me about that. I think it's kind of an important thing for us to know if you're still want to shut down FEMA. But they're kind of effectively shutting down FEMA as is by the way that they're not providing help to these people, by the way they've been holding back approvals, the way they jammed up the system, the way they've let these people go. They are creating a situation, and they're right. If they're going to do – this is going to happen every time. It's going to happen every time. The next natural disaster that comes, guess what's going to happen? There's going to be death.

52:39Jordy Meiselas:There's going to be destruction. They're going to be people who are unable to get their basic needs met because of Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, because they'd rather play this political battle to pretend that everything's okay and that nothing's their responsibility than actually act. It is the basic thing that we want government to do. The basic thing that a government needs to do for the people is protect the people. That's like number one. Number one of a government, protect the people for the safety of the people, right? The general welfare of the public. That is not what this government is doing.

53:09Jordy Meiselas:This government is actively harming people. And it's not just federal. Also, it's these Republicans in these states like Texas. What Ben said before was true. They literally said they did not want to take money from Biden to improve their systems because that would be woke. Biden's a communist. They don't want to take that commie money. And they got it covered. They got it covered. Well, clearly not. Their people could have used this money and then they funneled it to other places, right? Same story every single time. And so I would like to say this isn't going to happen anymore. We've seen this happen.

53:42Jordy Meiselas:We've seen death. We've seen kids die. But I can't say that. It is going to happen again. They're going to deflect yet again. Remember at the beginning of this, Trump tried not even to speak about it for the first day. No comments for a little bit. And then he finally was forced to because it became a really bad issue. He's done that with every crisis of this administration. He refuses to speak when our troops die overseas. He refuses to speak when our troops die during exercises here. He refuses to speak on issues that a commander-in-chief is supposed to speak on, that a commander-in-chief is supposed to assure the American public about.

54:16Jordy Meiselas:And they are supposed to be in a situation where they say the buck stops with me. But with Trump and with Noam, it's always the buck stops with somebody else. And that is not leadership. That's just cowardice.

54:26Ben Meiselas:I want to make a prediction here, and I'm going to talk about it and give you the data points when we come back from our break. Donald Trump is going to fire the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, for cause in the next six months, I'll give myself. And I think it'll be sooner than that, but I'll give myself six months. And Donald Trump's going to say that Jerome Powell fraudulently used government funds in order to build the new Treasury building or the new rather the new Federal Reserve building. And that's how Donald Trump's going to try to claim it was a for cause misappropriation.

55:03Ben Meiselas:It's obvious the regime is already setting it up for that. They already have people auditioning for who's going to be the next chairman. By the way, Jerome Powell's term ends in 2026 anyway. But let me give you the data points for that prediction. And I want to also show you that Donald Trump's trade war against the world is going horribly. Then let's talk about this faith lunch that went down on Monday, as well as Donald Trump's meeting with the Secretary General of NATO. A reminder, make sure you subscribe to this YouTube channel. And if you can become a member of this YouTube channel, you'll see the button here on YouTube where it says join.

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59:32Brett Meiselas:And Brett's all out of sorts right now. So I have to say, B, I'm very impressed with how you've been handling it. And you've been doing great. Most people wouldn't have noticed if I didn't say anything. So I just wanted to say, great job.

59:42Jordy Meiselas:What are you going to do? I feel like it's not something we had to mention, but I appreciate the kind words. All right. Let's test Brett.

59:48Ben Meiselas:Rapid fire. I'm going to go clip. Yeah, I'm I'm going to test your theory, Johnny, right now. Let's do it. Lightning round. OK, first, I want to show Donald Trump's economic advisor, Kevin Hassett. And Kevin Hassett says that, nope, we never said 90 deals in 90 days. What we said is sketches of deals before August 1st. Sketches before August 1st.

1:00:10Brett Meiselas:Here, let's play it on on Canada, European Union and Mexico. Why now? What's going on? Well, I think that we've got a deadline that's coming up in early August. And the thing about President Trump, if you go back and look at his history, that he became one of the most successful, if not the most successful businessman in the 20th century because he was able to squeeze everything out of every deal that he made. And right now we've got that guy who wrote the art of the deal, making deals for the American people. And we've got to see where the dust settles. The bottom line is that he's seen some sketches of deals that have been negotiated with Howard Lutnick and the rest of the trade team.

1:00:45Brett Meiselas:And the president thinks that deals need to be better. And to basically put a line in the sand, he sent these letters out to folks and we'll see how it works out.

1:00:53Ben Meiselas:I've seen sketches of deals. Also, let's be clear, when you're involved in a negotiation and your desire is to destroy your counterpart and squeeze them out, that's not that's not really a good way to negotiate in good faith. So when you're dealing with the European Union or Mexico or Canada or Japan or Australia and you go into these negotiations, I'm going to squeeze everything I can because then what Trump wants to do is post on social media. Look how I made them submit. I destroyed Australia or Japan or Mexico. These are proud countries that value their sovereignty, that have trading relationships elsewhere also, and they don't want to be treated this way.

1:01:38Ben Meiselas:I mean, Donald Trump sent that letter to the European Union and to Mexico over the weekend. He waited until the markets closed. It was backed. I mean, the letters are dated on Friday, but he posts them on social media on Saturday. These 30 % tariffs against Mexico and the European Union, and he did it before when it comes to Canada. All that's doing is having these other countries forge stronger relationships with each other and with China. It's helping the BRICS block rise, and it's just weakening the United States. As I said before the break, I want to show you why I'm pretty confident that they are teeing up a for-cause firing of chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell.

1:02:22Ben Meiselas:Kevin Hassett was asked about firing Jerome Powell over the weekend. Here's what Hassett said. Let's play it.

1:02:29Brett Meiselas:Yes or no answer. Does the president, in your view, have the authority to fire the Fed chair? That's a thing that's being looked into, but certainly if there's cause, he does. Okay. Thank you very much, Kevin Hassett. I really appreciate it.

1:02:41Ben Meiselas:The Supreme Court in a prior ruling actually allowed Donald Trump to fire independent agency heads without cause, overturning decades and decades of Supreme Court precedent. But they just made up a rule in their order saying you can't with the Federal Reserve chairman. It has to be for cause. So right now, Kevin Hassett, who you saw there, and others in the Trump regime have been sending letters to the chairman of the Federal Reserve saying, you know, we know that you're building this Federal Reserve building. We think money's been misappropriated. Answer these questions. So they're just teeing up a four cause termination.

1:03:19Ben Meiselas:Hassett, that guy who you just saw there, who's wrong about everything, his career, he predicted the dot-com boom would go even boomier right before the bust. He said, bye, bye, bye. The next day there was basically a crash. He's an infamous loser, that guy. He's basically the next person in line to be the chairman of the Federal Reserve and just do whatever Donald Trump wants. The other guy is this guy, Kevin Warsh, who was auditioning this weekend. And here's what Warsh said. Here, play this clip.

1:03:46Brett Meiselas:The president has been considering you as the successor to Jay Powell. He said some very nice things about you to me recently when I was talking with him. Powell's term is up in May, but there's also an opening in the Federal Reserve in January.

1:04:02Jordy Meiselas:Would you be poised to accept the position on the board in January?

1:04:07Brett Meiselas:I had that job. I was a governor for six years during the financial crisis. It's a great job to have. It's up to the president to make whatever decisions he wants. But I think what we need is regime change at the Fed. And that's not just about the chairman. It's about a whole range of people. It's about changing their mindset and their models. And frankly, it's about breaking some heads, is because the way they've been doing business is not working. Maybe in New York, maybe in Washington.

1:04:33Ben Meiselas:It actually is working. And it's the one thing that's keeping our economy alive right now. If Donald Trump were to precipitously drop interest rates as he wants to now by three points, it would lead to a massive recession and potentially a Great Depression. It's one of the reasons why the Federal Reserve is independent to avoid this. We may not like core interest rates are right now. They were declining before inflation went back up. They were declining under Biden. Donald Trump that had the trade war against the world. It is causing inflation to rise. Trump and everybody around him claim that they've defeated inflation.

1:05:12Ben Meiselas:They said it no longer exists right now and that gas is$1.98 and that everything is great and that everything is so much cheaper right now, which is false bread.

1:05:22Jordy Meiselas:Facts no longer exist and they're playing off a slate of alternative facts to make their decisions. They lie about everything. And you could see this. I wanted to bring up this because Ben told you about their plan right now to try to fire Powell for cause, right? That's what they're pushing. They're writing these letters. They're having Congress do their whole, oh, we're going to investigate this. It's the same playbook they always run, right? To try to smear somebody, to try to pressure them to step down or have Donald Trump fire them for cause and say, listen, he was stealing money, right? They make things up.

1:05:52Jordy Meiselas:The other leg of this is what I'm seeing online by this guy, Bill Pulte. For those of you guys who don't know, Pulte is the US Director of Federal Housing. He's a billionaire worth nearly$4 billion. And so he starts spreading a rumor about Jerome Powell. And I don't think this has gotten enough attention. Pulte starts spreading a rumor that Jerome Powell is considering resigning based on nothing other than the fact that the Trump administration wants him to resign. And so they're trying to get this rumor mill going. So he leaks this to the press. A guy who wants Powell out leaks to the press that Powell is considering resigning.

1:06:26Jordy Meiselas:So inevitably, that allows the propaganda media ecosystem to go full speed into this. And then Pulte then regurgitates what the media is saying about his comments, and it all comes full circle over and it just goes over and over again. So you can see I'm pulling up his profile here. And then he writes things like this. If news reports that Powell is considering resigning are accurate, the economy would boom like never before. It's just math. The news reports are based on your words. You are the news reports. You are the one spreading this rumor. And there's another post he did right here. Federal mortgage regulator Bill Pulte calls on Congress to investigate Fed Chair Powell.

1:07:05Jordy Meiselas:That was like what Ben was saying before. So he's pushing the investigation and he's pushing this lie that Powell is considering resigning. Then you see I have a screenshot of Fox here. Fox talking about him saying that Powell is considering resigning. And Pulte goes, how soon will Powell resign? And then he shows Trump responding to the rumors that Powell is considering resigning. And he shows Trump responding to it right there. Then he says, I also personally was in a meeting with Jerome Powell last month and he looked completely drained of life. He also writes, Pulte, the patriotic thing for Jerome Powell to do is resign.

1:07:41Jordy Meiselas:So you have these people who have these things that they want to do. In this case, they want to get rid of Jerome Powell so they could get rid of the independence of the Fed, destroy the economy for short-term low interest rates to try to help Trump and help billionaires get money for free essentially. and they're willing to smear the head of the Federal Reserve and try to basically threaten him with criminal charges in order to get him to either step down or get Donald Trump to fire him and say, I was just doing what's best for America. This is what's playing out right now. And so I feel like people aren't really speaking about this specific end of this story.

1:08:14Jordy Meiselas:So I wanted to make sure I would just laid out all the ends of what is happening.

1:08:17Ben Meiselas:Yeah, they want a for-cause protections, protectual justification to fire Powell. To me, that order has already been made. Right. So now what they're just waiting for, and this is what Powell has to figure out. And by the way, Trump appointed Powell. So Powell is Trump's pick. So I just want to be very clear during first Trump administration. And so what Powell has to figure out now is how do I respond to this letter because it's obviously intended to get me fired. And what's the right response? I mean, the truth, of course, but that's what this is. And I expect this to happen in the next, as I mentioned, six months, but I think probably sooner.

1:09:00Ben Meiselas:And I think it's going to result in a massive tanking of the market like we've never seen before. So come back to this when that happens. going to Donald Trump's faith lunch that he was doing. And again, I don't think it's a surprise that he's doing a faith lunch the day after he's, or as he's covering for the Epstein list, because this is what these people do, right? They cover themselves in the flag and they cover themselves in religion and they use it. And these are not religious people, in my opinion, not patriotic people, in my opinion, who use the symbols that people love and play on people's religions to ingratiate themselves, to engage in their bad behavior.

1:09:41Ben Meiselas:So just so you see who's the head of Donald Trump's faith office, her name is Paula White. She goes around speaking gibberish and asking for money and has a tax-exempt status. And by the way, now under Trump's IRS, churches can endorse political candidates and still keep their IRS tax-exempt status. Other nonprofits aren't allowed to, but churches get to keep tax exemptions. And then, you know, someone like Paula White is, you know, has built mansions for herself and lives a lavish lifestyle. But if you go to a Paula White sermon, she just goes,

1:10:21Ben Meiselas:Here, watch.

1:10:22Brett Meiselas:Angels are being released right now. Angels are being dispatched right now.

1:10:33Ben Meiselas:Yeah, that's not even speaking in tongues. You're just gibberish. It's just gibberish. There's nothing there.

1:10:38Jordy Meiselas:Hold on a sec. What was the guy just walking behind her, like bored, like on his phone, like he's in the wrong place. Can we play this one more time? Yeah, please play it. I feel like it's, have you ever seen that clip from like back of the day internet, like E-Bowm's world? When, you know exactly what I'm talking about, Jordan, right? The gorilla. Yeah, yeah. When it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what he's doing, but play the clip. But they play the clip. No, let me talk about E-Bowm's world for a second. Yeah, Ben, relax. Yeah, just chill. Just chill, bro. You got your haircut. You think you could just cut me off?

1:11:06Jordy Meiselas:Big guy over here. Yeah, big guy over here. So it's E-Bom's World Clip. You play the clip and then it says, did you notice the gorilla playing basketball? And then they play it again. And then you notice the gorilla playing basketball walking behind the people in the footage. I feel like that is, looks like kind of what's going on here. I'll play one more.

1:11:23Brett Meiselas:For angels are being released right now. Angels are being dispatched right now.

1:11:35Brett Meiselas:Come on. I mean, come on. Come on. That's ridiculous. Ben has an explanation. No, before we toss it to Ben, because I know he likes us talking about the E-Balms World clip so much, I just need to clarify, Brett, because I know there's a listener out there that knows exactly the clip you're talking about and is yelling at their phone right now or screen. You're supposed to count the passes in the video, and as the people are passing the basketball, that's when the gorilla walks through. The gorilla's not playing basketball. So sorry, I just need to clarify. Let's count the passes. Ben, what do you think?

1:12:02Ben Meiselas:I think he's holding up like some scripture and what he's doing is like, he's walking around to make it look like he's holding the word of God and he's like feeling this trance. I think that's what, I mean, I think that's the, that's what they're trying to have to play. Just, I think we have another clip of her just so you see, like, this is a separate sermon. Like this is just, this is, this is what she does here. Play this clip.

1:12:45Ben Meiselas:Actually, she's speaking old Valerian from Game of Thrones. I don't know if you know that that's actually what I mean. So, so, but then so you know, like Trump sells his Bibles, like during Easter, She sells$1 ,000 supernatural eggs. Here, let's show this here.

1:13:03Brett Meiselas:And I believe that when you honor God on Passover, starting on April 12th at sundown through Good Friday on the 18th and concluding on Easter Sunday,

1:13:13Ben Meiselas:you can receive these seven supernatural blessings for you and your house. According to Exodus 23, God will assign an angel to you. He'll be an enemy to your enemies. He'll give you prosperity.

1:13:25Brett Meiselas:He'll take sickness away from you He will give you long life He'll bring increase in inheritance And He'll give a special year of blessing You're not doing this to get something But you're doing it in honor to God Realizing what you can receive

1:13:40Ben Meiselas:For your special Passover offering of$1 ,000 or more As the Holy Spirit leads You will also receive the beautiful 10-inch Waterford Crystal Cross Don't miss your moment to release 7 supernatural blessings And provision into your life

1:13:55Brett Meiselas:Come on, this is right out of the righteous gemstones.

1:13:58Ben Meiselas:That is ridiculous. That's why, though, she's Trump's head of faith. I mean, Trump sells the I mean, that's what's going on here. And then Donald Trump at this faith lunch is joking. They laugh at this like the audience, the faith lunch, they laugh at this about Putin bombing nursing homes and Trump finding out from Melania that Putin just bombed a nursing home after Putin had a good conversation with Donald. And the people find this funny there. Here, play this clip.

1:14:28Brett Meiselas:But we thought we had a deal numerous times. I'd get home, I'd say, First Lady, I had the most wonderful talk with Vladimir. I think we're finished. And then I'll turn on the television or she'll say to me one time, wow, that's strange because they just bombed a nursing home. They said, what?

1:14:47Ben Meiselas:So. You know, I'm not trying to make another reference, Brett, because I have no clue what I'm even referencing here. But like where they do the laugh track at the most inappropriate like point where like it's like, wait, what? There's a there's a lot. Is that a laugh track? You know, it's like, no, no, no. That's actually the people. There was nothing funny about that story. The story was Vladimir Putin manipulating Donald Trump into believing that there could be a peace deal. and then shortly thereafter, Putin bombs nursing homes, killing innocent Ukrainians. And the audience laughed at that, like that was a funny situation.

1:15:31Ben Meiselas:I mean, you heard that there. So, oh, then also at this faith lunch, Donald Trump kept on cursing and saying, I was, he kept on talking, I was indicted five times. Bullshit this, bullshit that. Here, play this clip.

1:15:42Brett Meiselas:I did, I think I got indicted five times and impeached two times.

1:15:46Ben Meiselas:All bullshit. Right. Oh, terrible stuff. And they're like laughing at him. What the hell is going on? OK, so then before that, Donald Trump met with Secretary General Rutt, who's the NATO secretary general. And this was like Trump's big announcement earlier in the day with the secretary general of NATO right there. Surely Trump was going to say, I'm imposing secondary sanctions or we're going to give Ukraine new weapons, not like what we were already giving them that Donald Trump stopped and interfered with. But Donald Trump's big announcement was that I'm very unhappy with them. I'm very unhappy.

1:16:27Ben Meiselas:They make me unhappy. So in 50 days, I'm going to impose, I think he says tariffs, but he means secondary sanctions. And mind you, we already don't do trade with Russia. There's already a ban that Trump is allowing Russia to evade because Trump has removed the sanctions on all of the key Russian banks. Okay. So that's already happened. So now Trump is saying, I'm going to impose secondary sanctions, but we've got to wait 50 days. Now, as I said at the outset, Why 50 days? Because it's already been reported. And Putin said this in other speeches, that it will take Putin 60 days, Putin has said, in order to take over more areas of Ukraine based on the summer offensive.

1:17:13Ben Meiselas:So Putin's put the marker out for 60 days. So if you want to know why was it 50 days versus two weeks, it's because Putin said he needed 60 days. So this is how Trump negotiates, right? Okay, you said 60 days, I'll do it in 50, Vladimir. Watch this here.

1:17:27Brett Meiselas:And one of the reasons that you're here today is to hear that we are very unhappy. I am with Russia. But we'll discuss that maybe a different day. But we're very, very unhappy with them. And we're going to be doing very severe tariffs if we don't have a deal in 50 days. Tariffs at about 100 percent. You call them secondary tariffs. You know what that means. But today we're going to talk about something else. And as you know, we've spent$350 billion approximately on this war with Russia and Ukraine. I would like to see it end. It wasn't my war. It was Biden's war. It's not my war. I'm trying to get you out of it.

1:18:13Brett Meiselas:And we want to see it end. And I'm disappointed in President Putin because I thought we would have had a deal two months ago. But it doesn't seem to get there. So based on that, we're going to be doing secondary tariffs. If we don't have a deal in 50 days, it's very simple. And they'll be at 100%. And that's the way it is. It can be more simple. It's just the way it is. I hope we don't have to do it.

1:18:36Ben Meiselas:You promised there would be peace in Ukraine in 24 hours. Now you're saying you need 50 more days. By the way, that's when Putin's summer offensive would end. You start getting into winter time in Ukraine, although winter's a little further thereafter. But that's usually when there's a lull in the fighting. So what, give Putin cover for the next 50 days? You promised peace in Ukraine in 24 hours. You promised peace in Gaza in 24 hours. You promised all of these things that are now just utter lies. And the fact that even some corporate news acted like this announcement was something like groundbreaking.

1:19:13Ben Meiselas:Oh my God, he did what? What did he do? I mean, what was that? I'm very upset. I'm very upset. You're very upset. What a weird thing. What a weird thing to say. Anyway, that's where I'll leave it right there. Brett and Jordi, Brett, I'll give you the final word too.

1:19:29Jordy Meiselas:Yeah, I'll just say like, it's so frustrating to me when people buy Donald Trump's bullshit, because he quite literally lies about everything. I mean, I literally got a push alert notification on my phone the other day from CNN that there was a ceasefire happening between Israel and Hamas. Ceasefire, imminent ceasefire, Trump ceasefire. This is what they were pushing, right? And guess what? No ceasefire. We've seen some of the biggest violence that we have seen in Gaza of the entire last few years. We've seen over the weekend. We've seen kids get killed at water distribution plants. We've seen multiple people killed in airstrikes.

1:20:06Jordy Meiselas:And then Israel says, oh, we actually just bombed it by mistake. Sorry. Oops. What are we going to do? Oopsies. But I was told two weeks ago from the legacy media that there was a ceasefire and it was about to be done. Do not believe Donald Trump's bullshit. Remember, trust and verify. You need to verify before you trust anything that comes out of Donald Trump's mouth because he quite literally lies about everything. You could see, as we showed you in this episode, everybody around him lies about anything. He's built up these propaganda networks. They existed during his first term, but now it's different.

1:20:41Jordy Meiselas:It's a lot different right now because he's built up these propaganda networks and these people who do not say no to him. So he wants to put somebody in the Fed who doesn't actually believe in the economic data, right? So he wants to put somebody in there who's going to do things not based on reality, but based on vibes. The data that's coming out of the government right now, I don't think we could trust. I don't think we could trust any of the data that's coming out of the US government. You have Fox regurgitating his lies, New York Post saying that he got a loud applause when he got loudly booed.

1:21:09Jordy Meiselas:We're living in the upside down right now. So we all need to be the vanguards of truth. And I think that's what we are here at the Midas Touch Network. That's what we strive for. That's what we try to be. It doesn't mean we get it right 100 % of the time, but we strive for that, that I know all of you out there strive for that too. So thank you for calling out the BS. Thank you for staying strong. And thank you for pushing back against this regime.

1:21:29Brett Meiselas:Amazing. And before I send it off, please download the Midas Touch podcast on audio, wherever you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify, wherever. Download that audio. Leave a five-star review. Y 'all the best. Thank you so much. Shout out to the Midas Mighty!

1:21:43Jordy Meiselas:Midas, Midas, standing strong.

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