MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 8/29/25

16:24Jordy Meiselas:I almost feel like after COVID, something happened and people just like lost their freaking minds. And now there's just no semblance of truth in the Trump world, in the MAGA world, in the Republican world. And they all get right behind Donald Trump, no matter what the heck he says.

16:40Brett Meiselas:Let's be real. COVID broke people's brains. Like that era just broke people's brains in a really negative way. And I don't even mean that sarcastically. I know I say that to the brothers all the time. You look around and you're just like, wow, there's a lot of damaged folks out there. Part of the issue as well is quite frankly, our media landscape, corporate media, just parroting what Donald Trump and chief propagandist Caroline Levitt says. They put up that headline, oh,$10 trillion to the US. That's how people believe it. It just gets so ingrained in people's minds. It's hard for corporate media, Brett, to do exactly what you did in 30 seconds there, which is dive into the facts and the data and don't just take what they say and plaster it on a headline.

17:26Brett Meiselas:I've heard that number 10 before as well. Oh yeah, that's the other lie that Donald Trump continues to say now. It's not seven wars he ended, it's 10 wars he's ended. Why? Because that's the headline grabbing title that corporate media is going to take and run with without doing any proper due diligence or fact checking. And that's why I'm glad that here at the Midas Touch Network and the Midas Touch Podcast, we dig into these facts with data and receipts, Ben.

17:52Ben Meiselas:Well, you know, when he goes 10 wars, the two that he promised that he would stop, he said he would bring peace to Ukraine in 24 hours after the election, before he even took office. And now he says he was being sarcastic and that he obviously didn't really mean it. And he also said he would bring peace to Gaza. And obviously things are significantly worse there. So he goes with the outlandish lie of I've stopped seven wars. No, it's actually 10. I stopped a nuclear war between India and Pakistan. And if it wasn't for me, there would have been World War Three. Give me a Nobel Peace Prize. And a lot of this is sculpted this way so that people don't ask, wait a minute, why are things getting far worse in Ukraine right now when you said you would stop it?

18:43Ben Meiselas:ah, well, I stopped a nuclear war. You would have wanted nukes everywhere. I stopped that from happening. We'll talk about it in a little bit. Things are far worse in Ukraine. You have the European Union building being targeted by Russia. You have a United Kingdom government building being targeted by Russia in deadly attacks that ended up killing 20 other people in Ukraine, including four or five children yesterday, one of the worst nights of attacks as well. You also have Russian drones kind of swarming in this like East Germany area as well, kind of provoking or just showing that the U.S. isn't going to do anything about them.

19:30Ben Meiselas:And then, of course, what was it, a week and a half ago, they hit the United States factory and the U.S. did nothing. We'll talk more about Ukraine in a moment. But yeah, that's why Trump says I solved seven or 10 wars. And it should be noted that when Trump tries to take credit for ending the war between India and Pakistan, that is one of the things that if you cared about diplomacy, you would know. Don't say that because this is a major issue of pride in India. This war after the terrorist attacks in Kashmir, that Prime Minister Modi said that it was because of India's military that they negotiated the ceasefire on a bilateral basis and the United States had nothing to do with it.

20:14Ben Meiselas:The United States had nothing to do with it. The true story is J.D. Vance tried to call Prime Minister Modi because Pakistan back-channeled through J.D. Vance that they were going to have a massive strike against India. Modi didn't return J.D. Vance's phone call, but then sent a message to Vance saying, we don't care. If Pakistan does that, we're going to hit them harder. And then India negotiated with Pakistan on their own through mediation outside of the US. And then Trump's like, look, I did it, everybody. Look what I did. I did it. And the way Trump does it too, also is very offensive to India.

20:54Ben Meiselas:I dangled trade in front of them. I told them, we're not going to trade with you unless you do this, India. You like our American money, India, don't you? You want those American dollars, India, huh? And India's like, what are you talking about? We're one of the largest economies in the world right now. We're very proud of our economy. We have a productive trade relationship and interconnectivity between India. We did between India and the United States. And there's no trade deal with India. So what can you be possibly dangling? If anything, Trump has made things far worse by targeting India with 50 % tariffs under the pretext that it's because they buy oil from Russia, while at the same time the United States lessens the sanctions against Russia and does not impose those same sanctions against China, who buys more oil from Russia than any, there's no rationale between what's taking place here, and Prime Minister Modi of India is not taking Donald Trump's phone calls anymore.

21:59Ben Meiselas:I also saw a list of all of these post offices, the most recent one being Mexico, that are no longer sending packages to the United States because of tariff uncertainty. Everyone from the United Kingdom to Australia to Germany to Singapore, now Mexico, you name it, France, their post offices are not sending mail packages to the United States right now. I just want you to think about that. I mean, it's like literally dozens and dozens of countries.

22:34Jordy Meiselas:And by the way, this list that I'm showing right now isn't even all the countries. This is just like how many could fit on the screen at one time. And Mexico announced today that it's doing the same thing. And this part is all because Donald Trump decided to strip away the de minimis tariff exemption, which allowed basically items of a value of up to$800. Obama actually increased the value to$800 in 2016. It allowed those items to come into the United States were tariff-free. And so this has been something that Americans rely upon. If you've ever used Amazon or Timu or bought anything on the internet ever, you're relying on these de minimis tariff exemptions.

23:08Jordy Meiselas:And what Donald Trump has done is he's rescinded that tariff exemption, which is now basically making it so that Americans are not going to be able to afford to buy any of these products. Suppliers are not going to be able to afford any of these products. And there's all this uncertainty now. These countries don't know what to do if it's even worth shipping this stuff out here. So they've just stopped. Like the United States right now is quickly looking more like, I would say Russia, but it's even, it's looking like more like North Korea at this point, the way we're so isolated by Donald Trump.

23:35Ben Meiselas:And to that point, you have Donald Trump plastering his face on DC buildings. And I saw these headlines too. It was like, there was a New York times headline. Donald Trump is there. It is. I wasn't sure if I said you that before the show, Trump takes power quest to new level. A power quest? What is this, Zelda? Like the Ocarina of Time? You know, just the Hobbit? I mean, this Lord of the Rings? Hey, everybody, I'm going on a power quest. Sounds like a Peloton workout or something. He's behaving like a dictator. 30 minute power quest ride. There was the other one that was called Dictator Chic, and they're saying Donald Trump tries to remake, yeah, from AFP.

24:17Ben Meiselas:And they often, I always thought they did some decent reporting, but their headline here is Trump stamps dictator chic on Washington. Brett, the example that I gave on our videos this morning, and I keep repeating it is I feel like one of the last survivors sometimes in a zombie movie that the zombie hasn't been me yet. And I look around and I see all these zombies and I'm like, I got to avoid the zombies. I got to avoid these zombies. And I just think about it like when I turn on CNBC, which I rarely do, and I'm expecting a financial network to talk about the things that we're talking about. And they don't even think it's problematic on this network that's supposed to go on to the intricacies and nuances of proxy fights and stock buyouts and CEO compensation and all of these things.

25:06Ben Meiselas:and it's like Trump doesn't have a written deal anywhere with any country and they're just like well actually uh the Donald Trump deal with uh Japan calls like there's no deal why you keep on saying this stop saying it's zombies go away zombies what are you talking about what world are you living in like there are all of these issues taking place everyone is not everybody But, you know, corporate media normalizes this behavior. And I'm just like, stop it, stop it, stop it. I mean, there's this image by Matthew Gertz right here at Media Matters. This is the sort of image, if you predicted it would come to pass last October, people would have accused you of having Trump deranged mensagement.

25:49Ben Meiselas:And for our audio listeners, it's the National Guard marching in D.C. in front of a government building with Donald Trump's face plastered over it, Handmaid's Tale style. And when we were saying these things, when we were screaming from the top of the rooftops, guys, fascism, he's saying the same things that Hitler's saying. He's saying the same things that Mussolini's saying. Stop it. This is serious. He's saying, you know, we've got to rid the vermin and get rid of the in the blood of our people. He's saying all this stuff. Guys, listen to what he's saying. Mass deportations. Everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

26:27Ben Meiselas:You crazy people. You how dare you? I would get those fact checkers. I'd get those emails from whichever fact check group that they would send you. They're like, we are preparing a story about Midas Touch Network that you've said this and this. Please provide your proof and evidence of this. And then they write like a bad story. And then it actually like kind of hurts you there because it makes you seem like some people believe these fact checkers are like legit people. And people be like, well, you were fact checked. And they said that you're a far leftist organization. I'm like, I'm just calling out what it is, Brett.

27:01Ben Meiselas:I know you have strong thoughts. Hold the thoughts. We have to take our first quick break of the show. A reminder, one of the ways we grow this network is through memberships on our YouTube page. So click the join button. If you're not a member, you can gift as many memberships to people that you know. And there are some people who can't afford memberships. So you can gift it. YouTube disperses the memberships. It helps our network. It gives people access to some of the exclusive content we have here. Let's take our first quick break of the show. Then, Brett, it goes right to you and we're back.

27:35Ben Meiselas:Let's take our first quick break.

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30:53Ben Meiselas:I've got the conch. I passed the conch to Lord of the Flies. I've got the conch. Wow. Impressive.

31:01Brett Meiselas:Awful references today. Speaking of impressive Ben, by the way. I'm glad you're going to say. I have to bring it up because Ben just does

31:10Jordy Meiselas:the show and doesn't even mention it. No mention at all. Just powers through it. But Ben today got four wisdom teeth pulled and then immediately went and started recording videos right after. So if you notice, been talking a little different or looking a little different he got four wisdom teeth pulled and then didn't skip a beat i don't even know how it's humanly possible very impressive i'm never gonna take a sick day again i guess i guess that's what he went from yeah next time you think you can

31:34Brett Meiselas:take a sick day ben went from getting four wisdom teeth taken out to boom live stream back-to-back

31:40Jordy Meiselas:shows let's do it i mean this is michael jordan flu game stuff we're witnessing here folks there's respect.

31:47Ben Meiselas:I appreciate it, but I think it would actually hurt me more to avoid watching what's taking place and not speaking out on it. I think that would actually cause a more significant pain. But Brett, let me pass it over to you. Before the break, you were going to say something.

32:04Jordy Meiselas:Yeah, well, you know, I totally agree with your analogy that we all live in a zombie movie. You know, I think as I reflect on it, I think there were really two moments in American history from me growing up that really changed the course of our history and really sent this country into a spiral. I think the first, and like I said, this is for me, I'm 35. The first big thing for me was 9-11. 9-11 for me was a moment that I think changed the country's trajectory in a way that we've never recovered from. Everything that came from that, the surveillance state, everything that developed from that, the paranoia that we developed, the conspiracy theories that arose from that, I think you connect that to the next thing that I'm going to bring up that everybody knows I'm going to bring up right now, which is COVID.

32:48Jordy Meiselas:And 2020, COVID, everything that happened, the disinformation machine that was turned on then, the eschewing of experts who were just trying to help and weren't always right because it was a novel disease and there was information that was rapidly changing. And then these bad actors, Donald Trump and his minions, used that changing information in order to sow more disinformation and more distrust and efforts. It's really led us to where we are today. And honestly, I have to say we have to be one of the most propagandized nations in the world right now, bar none. And a lot of it has to do with social media, with algorithms.

33:26Jordy Meiselas:A lot has to do with, you know, obviously the Trump regime who is in office, with stations like Fox News, with a legacy media that is ill-equipped to fight back. And you just see, even after the most unimaginable tragedies out there, the propaganda that gets pumped out there to hide the real issues. I mean, of course, by now, Ben's done reports on this, and you all know about the horrific shooting in Minneapolis, just absolutely tragic, heart-wrenching at a Catholic school. and people want action when it comes to these things. And we've seen this going back, speaking about kind of those inflection point moments, going back to like Columbine and Sandy Hook and all of these moments that have just taken the country down this horrific path.

34:10Jordy Meiselas:And after every time, at least in the beginning, you think after this, we'll do something. Like these politicians will stop bullshitting us and they will do something and they don't ever do anything. and the Republicans always try to make it about something else or it's always too soon to talk about something. And so the new thing that we've seen in the past 24 hours is we had a lot of politicians yesterday and people like Jen Psaki and a lot of folks saying, I get your thoughts and prayers. That's great. We could do thoughts and prayers. This happened in a church. Okay. Thoughts and prayers are not enough to stop shootings.

34:45Jordy Meiselas:We need to do stuff to root out the root causes of these shootings. We need to do something about guns and mental health and all of it because all the things that you blame this on exist in every other country. They don't exist in the, all these other things exist in every other country, but they're not having the same murders that occur in schools, the same mass shootings that occur in the United States. And then you see the propaganda machine go full force to shame anybody who says, we want action, not just thoughts and prayers, including the department of Homeland security, who tweets things like this, who says, pray without ceasing.

35:19Jordy Meiselas:Like that's their message. pray. Nobody cares if you pray. I'm all for praying. I'm all for thoughts and prayers. I think it's a wonderful thing, but we want you to act. And you're the Department of Homeland Security. You're supposed to be the people who are monitoring threats like this. You're supposed to be the people who are able to stop threats like this. And you're making a mockery of it by posting things like pray without ceasing so that you could wipe yourself clean of the actual underlying issues as kids get killed in schools. This whole thing right now is just absolutely appalling. And we're just seeing it everywhere.

35:53Jordy Meiselas:And it's like the zombies out there who are just being Donald Trump's minions, the people who think that they're smart because they just listen to whatever Donald Trump says and they're getting likes on Twitter. Wake the hell up. There are kids dying. There are going to be people dying with this new CDC policy, which we'll talk about. This whole thing is crazy and it's dangerous and it's staring us right in the face. It's not even a good con. It's so obvious.

36:17Brett Meiselas:So well put, Brett. I want to build on that, actually. And then I want to talk about the normalization of fascism that we're seeing at large here. But to the shooting point exactly, for the magas out there who get outraged about people's pronouns and they go, well, how am I supposed to explain to my child that they want to go by he, him, or they? How do I explain that? How do you plan on explaining to your child that little Timmy was gunned down in mad class and he can't come to your birthday party anymore? I just don't get how you could actually think in those terms. So when you see these MAGA politicians, these Republican politicians specifically, that have just allowed this culture to metastasize because of their dying need to line themselves with NRA money, it's just beyond me that they care more about their own personal purse than the well-being of children.

37:11Brett Meiselas:You know, they're not the party of pro-life. Absolutely not. They're the party of pro-force birth. They're not the party of pro-life because they don't give a damn about kids. It's August. There's already been a school shooting. It's still August. Like, it just gets me so worked up. Our schools didn't even open in August. Like, back home, New York. It's really just truly unbelievable because at the highest levels of government, like politicians are failing children adults are failing kids and literally leading to their lives being lost because they'd rather pocket money and then separately the normalization of fascism that we've been seeing ben building on what you were talking about right like like it's like a creep creep creep i think i called the the the thought the the fascist yeah the leaky fascist faucet just you know look we'll do a little military parade for dear leader's birthday here a little gerrymandering over there.

38:10Brett Meiselas:Hey, let me just deploy the National Guard to these blue states over here. I'm just going to fire these people in the government that I don't necessarily agree with right there. And then what does corporate media do? Dictator chic. This is so cute. This is crazy. What we're witnessing right now is absolutely crazy. And everybody needs to be shouting it from the mountaintops that none of this is normal. And the second you allow yourself to bit by bit normalize this behavior, you've lost the plot. You have lost the plot.

38:40Ben Meiselas:You know, it goes even far beyond just the NRA's money. It's the NRA's in complete disarray also. They run things the way Trump runs things, and they've gotten busted doing a lot of things. But it almost seems that the outcome that Republicans want, or this MAGA movement, which is now the Republicans, is whatever like the worst possible outcome could possibly be. More disease, more death, more murders, horrible economy. And like, let's literally pick the worst people for each possible position at every level. And if you are qualified at all, and you speak up and try to present facts, you're gone right away in this regime.

39:28Ben Meiselas:That's also not unique to the Trump regime. That's a quality of fascism and authoritarianism that they purge the competent people or in other countries at other times kill the competent people first. But you take a look at who was the person, Brett, you mentioned the Department of Homeland Security. We obviously know that Kristi Noem is the head of the Department of Homeland Security, and she's got a structure underneath it. But who's the person that's responsible for monitoring domestic terrorism and trying to stop it with all of the assets that exist in our federal government before these attacks take place?

40:09Ben Meiselas:It's this guy. He's 22 years old, Thomas Fugate or Fugate, Fugate. He was an intern for Donald Trump. This guy is 22 years old, former intern. I think that before he was an intern, he was like a summer gardener. But come on, if you don't want the outcome to be killing people or harming people, why would you choose this guy to run the department unless you actually want negative consequences. And if you're that guy, how could you, unless you're just the most deranged human being, take that job? Like if someone were to say to me, hey, Ben, we'd love for you to be a pilot. You don't have to go to pilot school.

41:00Ben Meiselas:I want you to fly the airplane and we're going to pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and you're going to get great benefits, but we need you to fly the plane. We'll give you a PowerPoint, Just watch the PowerPoint. And then I would be, no, what are you talking about? Similarly, if you did that for me as a doctor, if you did that for me as one of these government positions that I know nothing about, if you were to say, hey, Ben, we want you to run the Federal Reserve. I go, okay. I mean, I may have taken macroeconomics in undergrad, but that doesn't qualify me to be on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.

41:35Ben Meiselas:But this 22-year-old kid takes the job. They gut 75 to 80 percent of their staff. We know that our federal resources are now being spent either finding Donald Trump's name on the Epstein files to redact and remove it or rounding up migrants and citizens to throw them into concentration camps. That's where people who are like hardworking people, not the criminals. We all want the criminals to be arrested and go and go away, provided they're given process that's allowed in the United States of America. But they're so focused on Home Depot and all these things. At what point are we able to say? And I think it's now.

42:16Ben Meiselas:I think it was weeks ago and months ago that this that these actions have consequences. This shooter was posting on many a message board. in the most obvious and brazen ways. And in the past, the FBI would have picked something like that up. But the FBI has been gutted. The Homeland Security Department that deals with domestic terrorist threats have been gutted because they don't like that people call the January 6th insurrectionists domestic terrorists. Instead, what are they doing today? They're giving the insurrectionist who was shot and killed when she was going into that room with where the senators were and she was in the Air Force.

43:01Ben Meiselas:Not only did they settle with her, but they're giving her like a honorable funeral with the Air Force, you know, honorary, you know, all the all the tapestries that are surrounding that. That's why they got the domestic terrorism. And then this thing falls through the, you know, this falls through the cracks. I mean, what we shouldn't continue to talk about the fact that like hundreds of children got killed in Texas from the Guadalupe River flash floods when it would have taken them four minutes to get on top of the mountain had they'd gotten the right alerts. Maybe if urban search and rescue, which was ready to go, but Kristi Noem didn't approve them, was ready to actually search.

43:42Ben Meiselas:Maybe if call centers weren't shut down because Kristi Noem didn't want to pay those bills. We don't talk about that. And then you go to the issues. Brett, you mentioned it. Even right now, one thing, FEMA, 180 FEMA staff open letter saying we're screwed. Our leadership doesn't know what they're doing. We're screwed right now. What does the Trump regime do? Put all these people who wrote their name on the open letter on administrative leave. These people are saying, we're going to have an event far worse than Katrina because no one at FEMA knows what they're doing at a leadership level. Help, they get put on administrative leave.

44:22Ben Meiselas:Then you go to the CDC. The CDC's headquarters is on the Emory campus in Atlanta. It was the subject of a terrorist attack, a domestic terrorist attack. Again, another domestic terrorist act by an anti-vaxxer who espouses all these MAGA views, shot hundreds of times at the CDC building. Donald Trump doesn't mention it once. Not once that there was a domestic terrorist act at the CDC building. So that obviously harmed morale at the CDC, number one. And then you have RFK Jr. saying that, you know what, we are no longer going to have the same emergency use authorization regarding COVID. RFK Jr. announces new limits on who can get COVID vaccines.

45:10Ben Meiselas:Even as new variants are surging, patients must now see a doctor before getting vaccinated instead of booking directly at a pharmacy. The emergency use authorization for COVID vaccines are now rescinded. this follows him disbanding the vaccine advisory board, which he promised multiple Republican senators who said that they wouldn't vote for him unless he promised that he would not destroy this vaccine advisory board. It's one of the first things he did. And so the head of the CDC was outspoken and saying, that's the wrong thing to do. What do you, I can't support this. They said, resign if you can't support this.

45:48Ben Meiselas:I'm not resigning. You're fired. You can't fire me. Yes, I can. You are fired, head of the CDC. You speak positively about vaccines. You're fired. Well, now she hires lawyers. She's getting ready to file lawsuits the same way Lisa Cook, who was fired as a governor unlawfully from the Federal Reserve, hired a lawyer, filed an emergency lawsuit today. And just sorry, going back to the CDC, you know, have mass resignations, a mass walkout taking place. These were talking just about diseases. In what world has all of a sudden, except in this zombified apocalyptic MAGA world, are they pro-disease? That RFK Jr., I saw someone describe him as, he looks like a 100-year-old baseball glove.

46:38Ben Meiselas:That's what his face looks like. Not to mention how he sounds. I won't even get into that. But he's the guy with no clinical experience. Remember during his testimony a few months back, he goes, do not trust me on medical things. You should not trust me on medical. Okay. Well, perhaps you were being honest, but why shouldn't we? You're the head of the health and human services department. Normally that would be person we can trust. But now not only can we not trust you? But all of this wacky stuff, this quackery is now becoming what is dogma. They create fake reports that justify this stuff. And people die, die because of this stuff.

47:19Jordy Meiselas:And now RFK Jr.'s top deputy is going to be the acting CDC director, somebody who's anti-vax, somebody who refused to really answer any questions during his appointment at HHS. And we're just seeing now like the CDC used to be like a beacon of light for the entire world. It used to be what the entire world looked to for advice on medical issues. And now it's just a freaking joke. I mean, I never thought that there would be a day. I mean, I didn't think of the CDC as a agency, as an agency that is a democratic agency or a Republican agency or an independent. Like this is, it's just an agency. It's people, hard workers doing their work, going by the data, going by the science.

48:03Jordy Meiselas:And yes, sometimes science evolves. Sometimes data evolves. That's the nature of science. It's a constant process of learning. That doesn't necessarily mean they were, doesn't mean they were lying to you during COVID when they said one thing about masks and then learned other things about masks. I mean, they learned, it means they learned new information, but Trump, this MAGA world is these propagandists have spread so many lies about this agency, and now they are gutting it. And now they are spreading truly harmful information. They're taking away vaccines. So if you're under 65, you're not able to access vaccines unless you fit into a narrow kind of list of ailments that makes you eligible for the vaccine.

48:40Jordy Meiselas:You got to see your doctor. You know, we do the show here at the Midas Touch Network called Midas Health with Dr. Vin Gupta, where he brings on experts. He brings on former heads of the CDC and the FDA and other organizations in the country who to kind of fight back as like a shadow agency against the lies of the Trump regime. We have that here on this Midas Touch podcast feed. It's an audio podcast. You could check it out, you know, by subscribing to the Midas Touch podcast on Apple and Spotify. We also put it on our on our sub stack at MidasPlus.com. You should check it out because you'll hear from real experts about what is actually going on.

49:13Jordy Meiselas:And, you know, we started the show off with Susan Collins saying she's concerned, you know, Senator Bill Cassidy, Republican. He was one of those guys who RFK said, I'm not going to touch anything. And he's like, oh, I think we'll just try it out. He promised me. He promised me. So you know what? I don't think anything's going to happen here. Well, where are you now? Because right now everything's being gutted. You already see RFK Jr. He's going out there. He's saying like, oh yeah, in September, I'm going to deliver my report on how vaccines cause autism. I got the idea. He's going to spread more harmful information that is going to get people hurt because we have a guy who's basically straight out of a Facebook comment section now in charge of our health system.

49:54Jordy Meiselas:It's absolutely crazy.

49:57Brett Meiselas:It is one of the scariest things. I mean, there's a lot of things to be scared of. The Trump regime and MAGA in general, the attack on experts, real experts that have the education, that have the knowledge, that actually do the work to just get to the data, right? Data shouldn't be a red or blue thing. Data is just a fact. Hey, here are our conclusions. Here's what we learned from the evidence. That's how you figure things out. But for Donald Trump and the Trump regime and MAGA, they don't want to live in reality. No. They want to live in this MAGAverse where if you don't agree 100 % with what Donald Trump says, and he has the ability to do so, he will fire you, literally replace you and put you in with a stooge who's going to then do exactly what Donald Trump wants.

50:50Brett Meiselas:And you know who suffers? The American people, the American people at large, because we're no longer getting the actual facts. But yet, what do they then do? They try and distract you. Oh, cracker barrel. They just changed their logo. Y 'all get outraged about that. Don't look at your 401ks. Don't look at your wallets when you go to the supermarket about inflation. Don't care about that. Because what they're trying to do is constantly distract you with this nonsense as they continue to put in these MAGA stooges. And that's the scariest part because it has real world impacts on people's families, on people's lives.

51:22Brett Meiselas:And it's going to continue just to get freaking worse unless you call it out. Because that's the best thing you could do in this moment. Because where corporate media is failing is they're not accurately calling it out. So every step of the way, you have to scream it from the rooftops, Ben.

51:38Ben Meiselas:Let's take our last quick break of the show. A reminder, if you can become a member of our YouTube channel, that is hugely helpful for our growth. You may have heard about our expansion into Canada, which is just the beginning. We want to reach out to pro-democracy groups and leaders across the world, in Australia, in the UK, throughout Europe, throughout Africa, throughout Central and South America, in Mexico, in Asia. and we want to build Midas Touch networks there so we can fight back against the international fascism movement. I bring that up now because you've been a major part of our growth and one of the best ways to help us grow is by becoming a member on this YouTube channel.

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53:05Ben Meiselas:Thanks to you. Last quick break of the show, home stretch. We've got a lot to discuss. I want to talk about what's happening in Ukraine. I want to talk about Governor Newsom's press conference earlier today. We'll talk a little bit more about Midas Canada and some other topics. Last quick break of the show. We'll be right back.

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56:35Brett Meiselas:Let's go. Shout out to our sponsors. Links in description of both the YouTube and the audio. Use the links. Use the codes. If there's an exit survey, let them know we sent you. Benji, I'm still just so impressed that you are doing this show today. Two, two and a half hours removed from getting all four wisdom teeth taken out. And I got not to be like the little brother here, but like, so my son just started daycare and he definitely brought home like, he's got like the sniffles now, just cost, that's what happens when you bring kids to daycare. I got this. I'm not feeling great right now, but you're motivating me, Ben, to just power through this episode.

57:08Brett Meiselas:So my sniffles, that's equal to your four wisdom teeth being taken out. Yeah. Benji, where to next?

57:17Ben Meiselas:Thank you for the praise. Let's talk about, you know what that reminds me of? What? Brett, you know what I'm talking about. We need more of this at the Midas. Yeah, we like you. What are you getting into here? Jordi, were you inspired by this? Let's play it. You know what I'm talking about. I don't have to call it.

57:35Brett Meiselas:If you all haven't stopped by the Department of Labor, Mr. President, I invite you to see your big, beautiful face on a banner in front of the Department of Labor, because you are really the transformational president of the American worker, along with the American flag and President Roosevelt.

57:51Ben Meiselas:Working for this government, for you, is the greatest honor of my life. I tell it to everybody, and I really do feel that way, and I thank you.

57:58Brett Meiselas:You have breathed life back into the profession of law enforcement. Your respect for law enforcement is so incredible. It's making a difference.

58:06Jordy Meiselas:This is just such a great opportunity really to recognize your leadership as a true champion for working people.

58:12Brett Meiselas:Well, everyone knows there's no stronger advocate for hardworking American families than you. Mr. President, first of all, thank you for the opportunity to work for you. Our country has never been so secure thanks to you. You have brought us back from the edge.

58:27Ben Meiselas:And there's only one thing I wish for, that that noble committee finally gets its act together and realizes that you are the single finest candidate since the noble piece, this noble award was ever talked about to receive that reward.

58:42Brett Meiselas:It's pretty great to celebrate Labor Day with a builder who loves labor. The great Trump projects have come from the very men and women we're going into this weekend to celebrate. Thank you for saving college football, by the way. We're all very grateful.

58:59Ben Meiselas:That was put together by Brett and our team here at the Midas Touch Network. Brett.

59:04Brett Meiselas:It was actually the first time I was able to get through that whole video just because I get such like secondhand embarrassment watching that. And that's the thing that we're never going to be able to really overcome no matter what happens next. It's like we're always going to have to live with whatever the heck that was that happened here in the United States of America. You know, I think I said this on Blue Sky or so like what in the in the Krispy Kreme glazed donut is that it's just so pathetic.

59:31Ben Meiselas:And ultimately not America. So not what our country was like. We used to mock that. Like when we would see Saddam Hussein do stuff like that or Kim Jong Un or whoever, we'd be like, look at that. And then people would look to us as this like democracy that was working on good faith. And it's like, wait a minute, we're worse than those countries now. Like, that's far more embarrassing than all that. But Brett and Jordy, you've got Governor Newsom fighting back. He held a press conference today. And his team has been really, you know, on social media, they've been firing back, going on the offense, mocking Donald Trump.

1:00:08Ben Meiselas:Here they are talking about, though, at this press conference, how these MAGA states have far more crime than Democratic states, like Alabama's the top three. Let's play this one.

1:00:18Brett Meiselas:But facts are stubborn things. And the fact is Mississippi. I didn't mention. I mentioned Arkansas. How about Tennessee? Alabama. Alabama's top three murder states in America. Where's the president of the United States? I thought he cared. These are the folks that, these are his states that voted for him. His state of mind doesn't seem to be focused on the issue of crime and violence. It's about an expression of authoritarianism. He reflects and waxes. I think two of the last three days talking about being a dictator.

1:00:52Ben Meiselas:I hope people pay attention. I hope people pay attention. And one of the ways he's making people pay attention, how this cannot be normalized, is by highlighting some of the blatant hypocrisy by putting a mirror up to the lunacy. And that's exactly what Newsom says. Here, play this clip. But also acknowledge that this country needs to wake up to what's going on. and not just the authoritarian tendencies, but the authoritarian actions by this president.

1:01:16Brett Meiselas:This cannot be normalized. And yes, so I'm highlighting some just blatant hypocrisy. Yes, we're putting a mirror up to the lunacy that is Trump's tweets and his grift. The madness that is someone that would dress up as the pope and tweet that out. I'll put his face up there on Mount Rushmore

1:01:42Ben Meiselas:in a Superman costume, President of the United States. So I do think it's important to put that mirror, that lens back and have everyone reflect on it and say, well, is this, have we accepted this as normal? Why aren't we calling this out more clearly? So extension of what we're doing, but also yes, highlighting some of that. Thank you. That's what I've been looking for for so long, that answer right there. and it's not beneath us or a politician to highlight these things that are being said. I mean, that's why I go through Donald Trump's messages that he sends his supporters on a daily basis, like this one from this morning.

1:02:21Ben Meiselas:Do you want a doze check? Tell me here. Rebate check poll. I only need you to answer one question, and it's a very important one. I'm only sending this poll to my most trusted Trump 1%. I'm even providing you with a two-hour extension to answer question should bonus revenue from tariffs go back to the american people via check signed by trump in addition to it just being like not like in like broken like wire fraud yeah the subject line of do you want a doze check doesn't even match what like they got their frauds confused they mixed up the doze check and the tariff rebate fraud and kind of merged them into one.

1:03:03Ben Meiselas:Like you're still talking about a Doge dividend check. Like, OK, that was a fraud. Doge costs the government more money. Government spending is much higher right now. Objectively, that's the data than it was under former President Biden. And Brett, as you mentioned, the debt is soaring and our deficit is increasing significantly than what it was last year.

1:03:25Jordy Meiselas:Otherwise, did you see when like Besant, it was either Besant or Lutnik was asked about the tax rebate checks or the Doge, one of the checks, you know, that they keep throwing out. This is what they do. They scam their people, right? They get these emails. Oh, I'm going to get a check. Yes, I want money. Give me money, Donald Trump. He says he's going to make me very, very rich. Give me money. Scott, either Besant or Lutnik was asked about this. And they were like, oh yeah, they'll get the checks after we, once we pay down the debt. So you might as well say, yeah, never. You're never going to see a penny, okay?

1:03:55But one of the things that they seem to be doing is either intentionally or recklessly,

1:04:01Ben Meiselas:You tell me which is worse, destroying the economy to then justify lowering the interest rates. Right. Like if you look at the moves they're making, it is affirmatively harming the economy. And then it was the speech that Chairman Powell of the Federal Reserve gave last week. And he gave a speech where he's like, basically, I'm paraphrasing. The economy is doing terrible. We're heading towards stagflation, meaning GDP is decreasing, unemployment is rising, and inflation is rising. This is more than what we previously expected. So we may have to look differently at interest rates. The stock market surged on that like that was a good announcement.

1:04:44Ben Meiselas:And I'm sitting here going, what the hell are we doing? What do you mean? You think that's good news because we've broken the economy to lower interest rates? but who does that benefit? The 1%, the billionaires. They can borrow freely and do whatever they want and recklessly. One of the things they loved about the PPP program is that their connections to the banks gave them billions of dollars collectively that they got their debt forgiven afterwards. They just got free money if you want to talk about it. So they got free money from the government. The richest people in the world were getting free money from the government.

1:05:23Ben Meiselas:Then they got their debt forgiven. Meanwhile, right now, one of the very, very scary stats is there are 6 million student loan borrowers who are about to be in default or who are in default. What that means is their credit is tarnished. What that means is they can't rent on their name. They can't get cars under their name. They can't get future homes under their name until maybe the credit gets fixed in seven years. But there's no help of them getting their credit fixed in seven years based on how bad things are going now. So for the next seven to 10 years, you're removing millions of Americans out of the economy because they can't unless there's a cosigner or someone like that.

1:06:05Ben Meiselas:Credit card debt right now, verge of defaults right there. Mortgage applications, highest rejection rates, unemployment, like all of this data is really, is just really, really concerning right now. We'll hit on some of the news internationally that I said we would as well, which is the strikes by Russia against Ukraine, basically over the past 24 hours, 48 hours, have increased, you know, really, you know, at a level never seen before during this war. But since Trump's taken office, the strikes have increased substantially, especially on civilian areas, residential areas like occurred last night.

1:06:56Ben Meiselas:And what was struck? European, go back to that last graphic right there. European Union mission was hit. The British Council building was an official government buildings were intentionally targeted by Russia. And this followed an American factory being targeted in Russia and destroyed. last week, the flex factory. And Donald Trump does nothing about it. Donald Trump said if Russia didn't agree to a ceasefire, there would be serious sanctions. Well, there's no sanctions. There's no ceasefire. Russia has not agreed to a bilateral or trilateral meeting. There's no security guarantees. Remember all that stuff that they were saying last week and the week before?

1:07:36Ben Meiselas:Look what Trump did. Again, just like his fake trade deals, we were saying it at the outset But wrong. This is not what Russia never agreed to these things. That's all. Stop reporting that these are actual things. Donald Trump's leadership has got Russia to agree to NATO like security guarantees. First up, what the hell is a NATO like security guarantee? I guess from Donald Trump's view, that means no security guarantee because Trump has said before that he really wouldn't honor Article five. And if anything, Trump's triggering Article five by engaging in espionage against Greenland. Denmark had to summon our top diplomat in the area saying, are you sending spies in Greenland?

1:08:18Ben Meiselas:That's an act of war. What the hell are you doing? And it is an attempt to invade the sovereignty of Greenland. The Trump regime was caught doing that. You have the president of Portugal, Portugal, president of Portugal right now saying the top leader of the world's foremost superpower is objectively a Soviet or Russian asset. He operates as an asset. Think about that. That's what he's saying right now. Think what he's saying right now. But I want to show you, okay, Ben, what's the solution to this? Well, what we're going to try to do here at the Midas Touch Network is build out the network in other countries because we know that there is a hunger and a thirst or truth and facts and speaking plainly evidence-based that transcends political parties.

1:09:09Ben Meiselas:It's about the facts. Like when I was a trial lawyer, I didn't go, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I am a Democrat. And let me present to you the Democratic view right here. And I want you to find in favor of my clients. When I was marching the streets of Bakersfield with my clients. I didn't say, are you a Democrat or are you a Republican? When my clients had family members killed by the Bakersfield Police Department or the Kern County Sheriff's Department, they just wanted answers. That's why they hired me. And so I've tried to bring that fact-based evidence approach and say, here are the facts.

1:09:46Ben Meiselas:There's no trade deal. There's no trade deals at all. There's no written agreements. Now, you may like that or don't like that. I don't know, but let's agree to the objective fact there. Donald Trump's not being tough with Putin. Trump is acting like an asset, either knowingly or unknowingly of Putin. Why do I say that? Because there's no ceasefire. Trump invited Putin to Alaska and like celebrated the guy. Putin got the biggest propaganda opportunity ever. Trump was in the Oval Office holding a photo of himself and Vladimir Putin together. Look at us together. Look how lovely we look. Like it's the honeymoon phase of like a relationship that they were having together.

1:10:24Ben Meiselas:It was really weird stuff. And no security guarantees. Trump constantly berates our NATO allies. He attacks Ukraine. There was that Guardian report that Donald Trump was basically trying to do a coup of Zelensky back in February or March after that meeting in the White House, but that the main general who Trump wanted to replace Zelensky didn't take Trump's phone calls or advance his phone calls. sound like a familiar theme in this episode. But here's Charlie Angus speaking at an international summit. Here he was speaking in Mexico. But at this meeting, there were leaders from across the world, Mexico, Central America, South America, Caribbean, and they were there.

1:11:06Ben Meiselas:And Charlie Angus, a former member of parliament in Canada, was talking about starting Midas Canada and the importance of creating international pro-democracy media. This was a major topic of this summit of world leaders together in Mexico. Here, watch this.

1:11:25Jordy Meiselas:And we were so careful in our language that nobody could understand what we were saying.

1:11:31Brett Meiselas:And the right came in and they lied again and again with simple language. And we didn't take it seriously. That's what happened in the United States. That's what happened in Canada. The other failure is our mainstream media. You know, we still have in Canada a sense of fairness in media, but what they cannot address fascism, because in the world of fascism, all their talking heads sound like they've seen it all, they've heard it all. And so they'll present what Trump says and say, well, you know, he's just being Trump.

1:12:08Jordy Meiselas:In Canada, it's like he's not really serious. Like the day that Trump threatened our

1:12:14Brett Meiselas:country, suddenly a separatist group appeared in Western Canada. A separatist group made up of fringe losers. And the media, to be fair, gives them multiple opportunities. And does anyone think

1:12:28Jordy Meiselas:that Trump is not going to try and break our country apart by creating a Donbass in the West

1:12:33Brett Meiselas:by feeding this. I'm not attacking the media here. I'm saying we need to create alternative media. We need to start creating a progressive media that people listen to. I'll give you an example, the Midas Touch from Los Angeles. Wherever I go in Canada, working class people listen to Midas Touch because they talk about what's happening in a practical way. They don't talk highfalutin. They don't say he said, she said. They give facts. We need on the left to create an alternate stream because we gave online disinformation to the right. We let them dominate it with their podcasters and their influencers.

1:13:10Brett Meiselas:And it seeped into every part of our social fabric to the point of crazy conspiracy. We need to find ways of talking practically and bringing our people straightforward talk through our means that we can control. Thank you. Love that.

1:13:26Jordy Meiselas:That's great. Yeah, I mean, we need these messages out all across the world. I'm super excited to be launching Midas Canada with Charlie and to bring this platform that we built into countries all over the entire world. And we're going to need your help with this. So get ready. If you're in Canada, if you're in Australia, if you're in Europe, start building the buzz about this. I know the buzz is going on in Canada right now. And I'm so honored to have this platform where we can reach people and can speak about these topics. Because what we see right now in our country, in the United States is a guy who thrives on chaos.

1:14:01Jordy Meiselas:And he just wants to divide and he wants to use that chaos in order to continue to sow division and then consolidate power. And so Ben, you asked something like, I don't know if they're doing this on purpose or what. I think Donald Trump, I think the chaos is the point. I think Donald Trump is doing everything he's doing on purpose. I think he likes when there's chaos, when there's chaos in the streets, he doesn't even necessarily need it as we've seen. But when there's chaos in the streets, when there's pandemonium in different departments. People look for somebody to help them. They get desperate.

1:14:29Jordy Meiselas:And then they go, okay, well, I'll send to the military to help you, right? Well, if only I had more power, I'd be able to do X, Y, and Z. Oh, that problem that you see, that shooting, that this, that, that, that storm, that's because of the Democrats. That logo that changed, that you were nostalgic over, that people are now upset about, oh, that's because of those wokesters. I'm going to stop that. And you see all of these things used as propaganda mechanisms to hide what's actually going on, as you see Donald Trump continue to consolidate power, despite the fact that his approval continues to decline.

1:15:00Jordy Meiselas:And we see these kind of tactics work all over the world. That's what Russia does. That's what North Korea does. And we're even seeing this right now. We're speaking about what's happening in Ukraine. I want to talk about what's happening in Gaza as well right now. Over the past few days, we've seen Israel start to conduct a full-on assault of Gaza City. We've seen in the past 24 hours alone, at least 61 people killed in Israeli attacks today alone, probably more by the time we've been since we've been alive on this show hundreds in the past few days um honestly you don't even see it that much like in our media here but international media uh is reporting on this there was that horrific video of that hospital being bombed five journalists killed 20 people in total from that hospital they're probably hospitals there have been 62 966 people killed by the israeli government since this started 159 266 wounded it's like the population of Salem, Oregon injured in this, whatever you want to call it.

1:15:53Jordy Meiselas:War is not really the term. I mean, it's like a genocidal thing that's happening right now in Gaza at the hands of Netanyahu. And it's hard for me to even fathom this as like a Jewish person to see what's going on. And I think it's important that people speak out on this and not be afraid to speak out on this, right? I mean, I think a lot of people get shamed into thinking that they can't. And you see all the same propaganda here right now, propping up these same heinous actions that's happening right now in Gaza. I saw this Twitter ad that came across my feed the other day, and it was from the Israeli government, and it was an ad that was like, the cuisine in Gaza is amazing.

1:16:32Jordy Meiselas:Nobody's hungry here. Everybody's doing great. Everybody loves their food. Look at all these people eating. Look at all these fresh veggies. Look, it's a farmer's market. It's appalling when you know how many people are starving every day. It's appalling when you know that there's actually a famine there. It's appalling when you see the helicopters, the planes flying over, and you see the area completely leveled. You see it completely decimated, just absolutely wiped out by this constant assault. And I'm supposed to be okay with that? It's insane. The level of propaganda that could get people to say, oh, but don't believe the numbers.

1:17:08Jordy Meiselas:Don't believe the numbers. That's not the acronym. You can get propaganda to make people believe anything and hide the most insane atrocities imaginable. And that's what we're seeing there. We're seeing that with our government in the United States. You see that in Russia. You see that in North Korea. You see that with what Russia is doing to Ukraine. It's all bad. And we should be speaking about all of it. And we should not fall victim to the propaganda. That's all I want to say. Jordy take us out before doing so sorry if my voice and my puffy face was in any way a

1:17:44Ben Meiselas:distraction today I tried to power through it I think we powered through it all right I'm still impressed by it you know our fans in Portugal may be a little upset that I forgot the name of Portugal so I'm going to give myself a deduction I'm going to give you a pass

1:18:01Brett Meiselas:You get a pass today, B.

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