In short
The episode alleges security threats and reclusive behavior around Barron Trump, and renewed scrutiny of Melania Trump tied to Amanda Angaro and alleged Epstein/UN passport corruption schemes involving Paulo Zampoli.
Guest backgrounds
Amanda Angaro is described as an ex-Brazilian model and former diplomat with a 20-year relationship with Paulo Zampoli; the transcript also references reporter Julie K. Brown and other journalists, plus claims about Jean-Luc Brunel and Ghislaine Maxwell.
Key claims
Barron is portrayed as a hermit amid purported Iranian assassination videos; Iran’s secretary Motion Reze is quoted denying a plot and blaming Netanyahu for misinformation. Democrats are said to plan subpoenaing Barron. For Melania, Angaro is said to have resurfaced with “dirt,” including claims Zampoli trafficked her at 17, helped obtain a diplomatic passport, and ran a UN vote/passport corruption scheme.
Notable examples
Angaro’s claims about UN General Assembly president John W. Ash’s death (ruled an accident) and her contact with House Oversight Committee Democrats; references to Zampoli introducing Melania to Donald Trump at the Kit Kat Club; and mentions of crypto links and “shady deals” that Democrats would question Barron about.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBarron Trump's Reclusive Life
0:00 to 1:32
Explore Barron Trump's reclusive lifestyle amidst security fears.
“Did you hear Barron Trump has become a hermit, a complete and total recluse, fearing for his life that Iranian assassins are coming to kill him?”
Melania Trump's Connections and Controversies
1:32 to 5:46
Discuss Melania Trump's ties to controversial figures and recent events.
“the way Midas Touch Network always does.”
Melania Trump's Connections and Controversies
10:06 to 11:06
Discuss Melania Trump's ties to controversial figures and recent events.
“scammers, and hackers, but you're not sure what?”
Allegations Against Paulo Zampoli
11:33 to 14:03
Examine allegations surrounding Paulo Zampoli and his connections.
“nations passport selling scheme that led to the death of a former un general assembly president according to amanda angaro an ex-brazilian model and former un diplomat who had a 20-year relationship with Zampoli.”
Melania and Zampoli's Relationship
14:03 to 16:50
Explore the complex friendship between Melania Trump and Zampoli, including allegations of corruption.
“She became the UN ambassador representing Granada during Trump's first term.”
Barron Trump's Influence in Politics
16:50 to 18:52
Discuss Barron Trump's role and influence within the Trump administration and his involvement in various activities.
“He is a full-blown adult and he is very influential in the Trump White House orbit.”
Andrew Tate and Barron's Connection
18:52 to 19:47
Examine Andrew Tate's claims about his connection to Barron Trump and their potential influence on each other.
“And let's not forget what Andrew Tate said about his friendship with Barron.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Ben Meiselas:Did you hear Barron Trump has become a hermit, a complete and total recluse, fearing for his life that Iranian assassins are coming to kill him? Did you hear Melania Trump panicking as Amanda Ungaro has surfaced? Yep. Melania Amanda is back. She was one of Melania's closest friends. She was brought here, trafficked by the Epstein crew back when she was only 17 years old. Jean-Luc Brunel, when she was only 17 years old, she knew Melania. She knows a lot about you, Melania, she said. Remember when Melania said, I have nothing to do with Epstein and nothing to do with Ghislaine Maxwell? Well, she was saying that because that was when in a few months back, Amanda Angaro took to social media to say she's got some dirt on Melania and Donald.
1:02Ben Meiselas:And of course, Pablo Zampoli, who was the person who brought Melania here into the United States and introduced Melania to Donald Trump at the Kit Kat Club in the late 1990s. And Pablo Zampoli was with Angaro for like two decades and was with her when she was very young and she was brought here into the United States. Let's break it all down, folks, the way Midas Touch Network always does. Where do you want me to start? Barron Trump, the hermit? Deal, let's do it. Barron Trump lives a very reclusive life, according to the latest New York Post poll, amid these threats from Iran and purported assassination attempts against Donald, which I think a lot of those have red flags, by the way, and the murder of Charlie Kirk.
1:57Ben Meiselas:There were videos circulating on social media that were purportedly linked to Iran saying where to kill Barron Trump and the video shows different locations where Barron Trump is. I think the biggest red flag though that these videos may be an op is that there are actually other people around Barron Trump. I don't really think that Barron Trump has friends other than perhaps the Tate brothers. And those Tate brothers are very angry now. They feel betrayed, Barron. Barron, they feel betrayed by you and Donald, they thought that you were with them, but now they got arrested when they were here last in the United States.
2:36Ben Meiselas:And of course, there's the extradition proceedings in the UK for their sexual assault and for their other horrific allegations. But upper floor student dormitories from these purported Iranian videos. This is where you find Barron. Again, Barron doesn't have friends. Barron ain't hanging out with people. Barron goes right into his room. He follows daddy. You know, the way daddy Trump hid in the catering container with Natalie. Barron does that except no Natalie, just hiding right now. Now, it is true that in Iran, they have all of these billboards though, that do say, hey, terrorists, get ready to die.
3:18Ben Meiselas:Yeah, and Barron is featured on a lot of these billboards. So that aspect is true. But according to Iran's secretary of the Supreme National Security Council, Motion Reze, he said, Barron, I got a message for you, big guy, tall guy, Barron. The claim that there was a plot against Trump's son, Barron, is nothing but a major lie devised by Netanyahu to deceive and frighten the U.S. president, is what Iran's secretary of the Supreme National Security Council says. Netanyahu, by spreading false reports about an Iranian plot to assassinate Trump and Barron Trump, has terrified him and disrupted his decision making.
4:04Ben Meiselas:Tough guy, Donald. If we make a decision, nothing will prevent us from carrying it out. But these reports are simply Netanyahu's nonsense. So Motion Reze saying, if we wanted to do it, we'll do it. But I think their broader point is, why would we do it? Donald Trump is a WMD. He's killing the United States. He's killed the U.S. alliances. He's the best asset we basically have. Why would we go after him? Let him keep on causing all of these issues. So you've got Barron hiding, Barron the recluse. We'll talk a little bit more about how Democrats, I reported on this before, are planning to subpoena Barron right away, They put him under oath, ask Barron questions about the Tate brothers, about Barron's purported crypto links, and if there were any shady deals involving Barron and what Barron may be up to while he's hiding away.
5:04Ben Meiselas:But this New York Post article says he's reclusive. He doesn't leave. He basically shows up. I mean, he's been staying right now at the Bedminster location in New Jersey. he kind of just everyone's there like the kids are really reclusive he just like shows up runs to his bed locks the door and then just hides in there and he doesn't come out he doesn't come out ever stays in his room hides from people and he does that when he's back in new york he just turned 20 um apparently he goes to nyu um but uh he goes right into his apartment locks the door doesn't speak to anybody and just kind of uh hides there all alone so that's baron let's talk about Melania now, shall we?
5:47Ben Meiselas:I'll get back to you, Barron, in a second. Let's talk about Melania. So she was at the weird Grand Prix event. She's seen yelling at Donald Trump last weekend. She keeps showing this Melania B-Best helmet at the IndyCar race, rather, the IndyCar race event. And she just keeps posting photos of herself, fostering the future education, fostering the future education. Hey, Melania, the regime that you are part of has destroyed education. You do realize that, right? You've destroyed public education. You have forced children in the United States to starve by saying that they're involved in waste, fraud, and abuse who were on certain programs to help them access free lunches and free food, but you kick them off of those roles.
6:42Ben Meiselas:And so you want to be fostering the future. Nah, the regime that you're part of is anti-kid. The regime that you're a part of, in my opinion, hates children, but that's my opinion protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. And this video is protected opinion speech. So I'll give you and your lawyers that disclaimer, Melania. It's opinion speech. Okay, we're all entitled to opinions. I know you're very, very sensitive though over there. And I know you've got your fixer who goes on and says, the whole world is so excited to see Melania's latest documentary. There's a new one with new chapters that are going to be unlocked.
7:23Ben Meiselas:No, nobody cares. Okay, like literally nobody cares. But what I do care about is ex-Brazilian model who was trafficked into the United States by the Epstein trafficking ring, Jean-Luc Brunel, where she then met Paolo Zampoli, who happened to be the same person who brought Melania into the United States. Paolo brought Melania into the United States, and he would help lots of young European girls and women come into the United States. And in this interview that Angaro just gave, and Julie K. Brown, the legendary Julie K. Brown, right? I mean, Julie K. Brown's the reporter who broke the Epstein stories.
8:09Ben Meiselas:And Grethel Aguia, they talk about something that's raising a lot of red flags right here. Ex-Brazilian model with ties to Melania links Trump envoy to corruption scheme involving passports. It's fascinating. And I just think it's fascinating generally, but I've always just had questions, questions about everything, about everything. I just lots of, I have lots of questions because Donald Trump did say when he was running the first time that in two weeks he was going to do a major press conference about Melania's immigration status. I was interested. I was intrigued. I wanted to know how'd she get the Einstein visa?
8:57Ben Meiselas:How'd she get here? What's the real story? I don't really know what the, I don't know one way or another. I know what Melania says, but I also know that Donald Trump and his stories are oftentimes, you know, stories, eh? So reminder, here's what Donald Trump said during the first campaign. Two weeks, two weeks, everybody, we're gonna do a major press conference. Let's play. Wait, they said my wife Melania might've come in illegally. Can you believe that one? no no no they said headlines maybe she came in illegally maybe let me tell you one thing she has got it so documented so she's going to have a little news conference over the next couple of weeks that's good that's good i love it i love it they said melania trump may have come into our country illegally and how would that be for donald trump to be talking here's the only problem she came in totally legally.
9:50I mean, you know, so it's one of those. All right, but you'll see it in a little while. I said to her, no, no, let it simmer for a little while. Let them go wild, let it simmer. And then let's have a little news conference and have some fun. Have you ever thought I should really be doing something to protect myself from stalkers, scammers, and hackers, but you're not sure what? Well, here's what you could do. Go to www.joindeleteme.com slash Midas and enter code Midas and you'll get 20 % off Delete Me. That's M-E-I-D-A-S. Delete Me removes your personal information that's being sold online. As someone with an active online presence, privacy is really important to me.
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11:32Ben Meiselas:all right paulo zampoli a special envoy for president donald trump was part of a united nations passport selling scheme that led to the death of a former un general assembly president according to amanda angaro an ex-brazilian model and former un diplomat who had a 20-year relationship with Zampoli. In an interview that she gave to a Brazilian journalist live-streamed on YouTube this past week, Angaro41 did not implicate Zampoli in the official death, but she claimed she presented documents and other evidence about the scheme to members of Congress whom she did not identify. She said in the interview that the former UN General Assembly president John W.
12:23Ben Meiselas:Ash was murdered by Chinese nationals who were also involved in the scheme. Ash's 2016 death was ruled an accident after the medical examiner said a barbell fell on his neck as he was lifting weights at his New York home. He was 61 years old. The Herald has not been able to corroborate Angaro's allegations, but the Herald, Julie K. Brown, did confirm she has been in contact with the House Oversight Committee Democrats, which is investigating Epstein. Uh-oh, Melania. Angaro set off a firestorm in April when she claimed on social media she had damaging information about Zampoli, Donald Trump, Melania Trump, and Epstein.
13:05Ben Meiselas:Melania then had the press conference. Angaro was previously deported from the United States in October following her arrest in South Florida. She lives in Brazil. She gave this interview in Portuguese to a prominent Brazilian journalist, Hildegard Angel. And you will recall that she has accused Paulo Zampoli of using his access to Donald Trump to get her deported and to expedite her being deported after a custody battle over their child together. Zampoli denies it. The New York Times did a report on all of it. So let's talk a little bit more about this. We talked about it in 2002 when Angaro was 16.
13:52Ben Meiselas:She flew with Jean-Luc Brunel and Ghislaine Maxwell into the United States. She recalled there were 30 girls on the plane who she was trafficked with into the United States. She became involved with Zampoli when she was only 17 years old. She became the UN ambassador representing Granada during Trump's first term. Zampoli was an ambassador representing Dominica. She was very close. She says she's like best friends, she claims, or very close friends with Melania. After their first birth, she said Melania was the first person who called every year on his birthday. They were very close. And then this article talks about the alleged UN passport scheme.
14:33Ben Meiselas:She explained that Zampoli helped her obtain a diplomatic passport, which gave her tax exemptions that she said he exploited for his own benefit. She claimed he made purchases on her account so that he would not have to pay taxes on those items. At the same time, she said he was running another scam selling passports. They ran diplomatic passport schemes selling them, countries paying one another for votes on the Security Council. It's all corrupt there. It's like a game, Ngaro said. Zampoli started selling diplomatic passports for$250 ,000 with this group. John Ash, who was president of the General Assembly, he was killed.
15:10Ben Meiselas:She said he died because of the scheme. A former UN ambassador from Antigua and Barbuda, Ash served as the president of the General Assembly from 2013 to 2014. At the time of his death, he was under indictment for taking bribes from Chinese businessmen. Seven others were charged in the scheme. Angaro said she was told that Ash was killed by the Chinese, but she provided no other specifics. and Zampoli denies all this stuff. The UN did not really comment. She goes, I came forward publicly after I was arrested because this guy wouldn't let me live my life. That's why I came forward with this is what she's saying.
15:55Ben Meiselas:She goes on to say in April, she said, I will tear down your corrupt system. Even if it's the last thing I do, I will go all the way. I'm not afraid. Maybe you should be afraid. This is what she said to Melania. Maybe you should be afraid of what I know of who you are and who your husband is, she said in a post that was dated April 8th and tagged Melania's account. She threatened legal action against the first lady and quote, your pedophile husband, Melania has threatened to sue Angaro for defamation, but has not followed through and filed that suit. At this stage, Melania also threatened she would sue Hunter Biden for a billion dollars and hasn't followed through with that suit.
16:35and she claimed that she was going to sue Michael Wolfe for a billion dollars and didn't file that
16:44Ben Meiselas:suit at this stage. I'll remind you, I interviewed Congresswoman Ansari and here's what she told me about the deposition of Barron. Play this clip. Absolutely. I could not agree more. Barron Trump is an adult. He is a full-blown adult and he is very influential in the Trump White House orbit. I mean, we know from, you know, from the first administration and from this administration that the Trump children play a very big role in the administration and policies that are passed. They benefit financially from the way the Trump administration operates and the self-dealing and the corruption that takes place.
17:24We know, you know, very famously Ivanka Trump, also who I think even as a, you know, as a grown woman gets the same kind of treatment, right, because of her relationship with her father and the way Donald Trump talks about her. I think there are a lot of parallels to be drawn with the, you know, Donald Trump-Ivanka relationship and the way he tries to, you know, let her get away with her actions. It's the same with Barron and Melania. But Ivanka had a very big role in the first administration. Jared Kushner is still conducting foreign policy on behalf of the United States. Barron Trump has not only been influential in the campaign and connecting the campaign to the manosphere, which of course, Andrew Tate is a major influencer in that space.
18:13But he also has, you know, is similar to his brothers undertaking in corruption, undertaking in investments and prediction markets and stock trading um that that is to his own benefit while um the administration takes away health care for millions of americans so we need to stop looking at them as though they're these like innocent naive kids who you know aren't part of any of this they also choose the limelight they choose to want to be involved with the campaigns they choose to be involved with the administration and therefore if they are committing crimes or if they are engaging in activity that is against the law in any way, shape or form, then they ultimately.
18:54Ben Meiselas:And let's not forget what Andrew Tate said about his friendship with Barron. Let's play this clip. And I'm very close to the Trump family. I know them well. And I spoke to Barron after the incident. And I look forward to, once I am free, being with Donald Trump in person and reminding him that he's a bulletproof badass. And if you think about it, Barron does kind of fit that demo that the Tates would go after, right? I mean, he is lonely, reclusive, hermit. And he looked up to, apparently he looked up to these guys, according to them, at least. That's what they were saying. Who knows? No one's even heard Baron's voice other than the video, that stupid suitcase video, where he apparently has an accent from Slovenia.
19:41Ben Meiselas:him. That's apparently, and he doesn't talk. Okay, everybody. We'll keep you posted. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million. Thanks for watching. Breaking news right now. My brothers and I wrote a book. It's called WTF America. And well, doesn't that just say it all? It comes out officially this October, but you can pre-order your copy today. Just scan the QR code or click the link in the description below.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Melania Trump and Barron Trump facing what may be their worst nightmare as Barron reportedly keeps an extremely low profile amid security fears involving Iran, while Melania faces damaging new scrutiny as a figure from her past, Amanda Ungaro, gives new interviews about her. Meiselas breaks down the growing problems surrounding the Trump family and why Melania and Barron appear increasingly determined to stay out of the public eye.
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