In short
The episode centers on Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Texas speech claiming “MAGA is dead” and that Donald Trump “killed” the movement. She says Trump resisted releasing the Epstein files: she alleges Trump told Mike Johnson and the Rules Committee not to advance a release resolution, and she claims Pam Bondi and others also blocked it. She describes signing a discharge petition with Democrats to force action, then says Trump called and threatened her, warning her “friends” would be hurt. She claims she received death threats, including threats against her son, and says she got little response from Susie Wiles and others. Notable examples include references to Epstein/Maxwell victims and the “front row” view of Congress.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMarjorie Taylor Greene's Revenge on Trump
2:01 to 3:00
Explore Marjorie Taylor Greene's critique of Trump and MAGA.
“She just gave a speech at the Ron Paul Institute in Texas, speaking before Republicans and libertarians and people who have left the MAGA movement.”
Greene's Disappointment with Trump
3:03 to 4:14
Hear Greene's views on Trump's response to the Epstein files.
“Here's where Marjorie Taylor Greene declares in front of a packed house of Republicans and Libertarians that MAGA has died.”
The Fallout from the Epstein Files
4:19 to 6:18
Understand the political implications of the Epstein controversy.
“because she said, we were told that this was a Bill Clinton thing and a Hillary Clinton thing by Donald Trump.”
Greene's Conflict with Trump
6:21 to 8:40
Listen to the details of Greene's confrontation with Trump over the discharge petition.
“So it got to be such a gigantic amount of resistance coming from the president and the speaker and everyone, the DOJ.”
MAGA's Downfall Explained
10:01 to 13:08
Examine Greene's claims about the decline of MAGA under Trump.
“And then Marjorie Taylor Greene in the speech says, look, I'm not just like any MAGA person.”
Criticism of Trump's Iran Strategy
14:03 to 15:10
Discussion on the backlash faced for opposing Trump's military actions in Iran.
“I openly and spoke publicly against it, and that's when strike two happened for me.”
Congressional Actions and Accountability
15:14 to 15:39
Reflection on ineffective Congressional resolutions and accountability in politics.
“Well, as this was going on, I was watching spending bill and CR and all this disgusting things that happen in the House of Representatives.”
Marjorie Taylor Greene's Loyalty and Threats
15:40 to 16:56
Marjorie Taylor Greene discusses her perceived disloyalty to Trump and ensuing threats.
“Well, talking about another resolution that got blocked more than any other resolution I've ever seen, it was to release the Epstein files.”
Responses to Death Threats
16:57 to 18:29
Greene shares her experiences with death threats and the lack of support from colleagues.
“It's really about people, about fighting for the people first and foremost.”
Trump's Reaction to Death Threats
18:30 to 21:02
Revelation of Trump's dismissive response to Greene's death threats involving her son.
“many of them, and donated money to them, and helped them get re-elected.”
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MAGA Cult Dynamics
21:03 to 21:55
Discussion on the emergence of an anti-MAGA movement and Greene's stance.
“That's the man that says MAGA is whatever he wants it to be.”
Transcript
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2:00Ben Meiselas:Marjorie Taylor Greene is getting her revenge on Donald Trump. She just gave a speech at the Ron Paul Institute in Texas, speaking before Republicans and libertarians and people who have left the MAGA movement. Marjorie Taylor Greene's message is MAGA is dead. And Donald Trump, the founder of MAGA, has killed the MAGA movement. Marjorie Taylor Greene has also been making social media posts to others who still may be trapped in the MAGA base to get out of the cult. And she's posting the signs that you're probably in a cult and here's how to get out of the cult. I want to show you what went down as Marjorie Taylor Greene got a standing ovation in front of Republicans and Libertarians in Texas declaring MAGA is dead and that Donald Trump killed it.
3:00Ben Meiselas:Let me show you what went down in this speech. Here's where Marjorie Taylor Greene declares in front of a packed house of Republicans and Libertarians that MAGA has died. Here play this clip. Because this crosses party lines. It crosses, as a matter of fact, it crosses all the lines. When it comes down to victimizing some of the most innocent people in America, these were young girls that were teenagers that desperately wanted to be models one day. They wanted to be seen as beautiful. They wanted to be rich. They wanted to be famous. And of course, every teenager wants things like that. And they were victimized by Ghislaine Maxwell and others.
3:44and they were victimized by the richest, most powerful men, not only in our country, but in the world. And they were used by Jeffrey Epstein as sexual tools for his own satisfaction and his friend's satisfaction. To actually be asked by the President of the United States to back off and not help these women, that's when MAGA died. That's when the entire thing shattered for me.
4:13Ben Meiselas:Then Marjorie Taylor Greene talks about how when the Epstein files became a major issue in Congress, she expected that Donald Trump was going to be her biggest supporter, that Donald Trump would actually be the one to wheel out the files. because she said, we were told that this was a Bill Clinton thing and a Hillary Clinton thing by Donald Trump. Then it became very clear that Donald Trump was complicit, that the Trump regime, that Pam Bondi and Howard Lutnick and J.D. Vance and all of these individuals were actually the Epstein class and they were in the files. They were protecting themselves and their friends.
4:57Ben Meiselas:Watch what Marjorie Taylor Greene says here. Play this clip. So, wow, when we started talking about releasing the Epstein files, I'm like, this is a no-brainer. President Trump will just roll them out on a big cart himself. Stacks and stacks and stacks of the Epstein files because obviously Bill Clinton is all in there. And Hillary Clinton. That's what I had been told all along, right? Well, it was the most shocking thing when I sat in a conference meeting and I learned that the president didn't want to release the EPSIN files. I was like, what? Yeah, come to find out he was very much against it.
5:40So we kept on trying and kept on talking about it. And then the president told Mike Johnson, no, do not bring that resolution to the floor for a vote. He told the Rules Committee, and Johnson told the Rules Committee, no, you will not mark up any bill in the Rules Committee that will allow the Epstein files to be released. And the resistance built and built and built. He told Pam Bondi, don't release the Epstein files. He told everybody, don't release the Epstein files. So we persisted because that's what we promised. That's what we campaigned on, transparency and accountability, especially to pedophiles.
6:17How is that complicated? So it got to be such a gigantic amount of resistance coming from the president and the speaker and everyone, the DOJ. I said, fine, I'll do the unthinkable. I'll go over there and I'll sign my name on a discharge petition that all the Democrats are signing their name on. Talk about crossing the aisle, me, a general in the MAGA army, crossing over to sign my name with a bunch of Democrats? Yeah, I did. Because women were raped when they were 16 and 14 years old. And he was a convicted pedophile, and we knew there were many with him. So I signed my name on the discharge petition.
7:06Oh, did I get my name on the naughty list then? Let me tell you. That became a real issue at the White House. Right.
7:14Ben Meiselas:I mean, pretty stunning. I mean, she's speaking in front of a Republican and Libertarian crowd who all agree with this right now, that MAGA is dead and that Donald Trump is absolutely complicit in covering up the Epstein files. And so is Bondi and Kash Patel and this entire despicable regime. Here, Marjorie Taylor Greene talks about when Donald Trump gave her a phone call and started to threaten her and say, hey, Marjorie, you signed that discharge petition. You better take your name off because you're going to hurt my friends. You're hurting the type of people who we hang out with at Mar-a-Lago.
7:53Ben Meiselas:And Marjorie Taylor Greene's like, what are you talking about? The people in the Epstein files who are the pedos? You're saying that that's the Mar-a-Lago buds of yours who you want me to? I don't want to protect those people. Watch as Marjorie Taylor Greene gets a standing ovation here again in front of this crowd that doesn't have Democrats in it. Here, play this clip. Well, I'll never forget it. I was in my office in the Rayburn building and I got a phone call from the president and he was at the White House and he wanted to talk to me about the discharge petition that I'd signed my name on.
8:29And he said, Marjorie, you're going to have to take your name off that discharge petition. We can't let this is a hoax. We can't care Gary, this is a hoax. It's a Democrat hoax. And we've got to just put this away and stop doing this. And he said, my friends are going to get hurt. He said his friends would get hurt if we released the Epstein files. He said, Marjorie, these are good people. These are people you know at Mar-a-Lago. People in Palm Beach, they're going to get hurt by this. And I said, Mr. President, people have been hurt. These women have been hurt. I said, have you talked to them?
9:11I said, you should talk to them. You should have them in the Oval Office, Mr. President. You have everybody in the Oval Office. You have sports teams. You have world leaders. You have Al-Qaeda terrorists that are now leading Syria. You have Mom Donnie. I mean, you have everybody in the Oval Office. Surely you can have these women who were raped as teenagers talk to them. I talk to them all the time. As a matter of fact, many of them voted for you. That's what I told them. They voted for you. Epstein victims voted for Donald Trump. And he wouldn't have anything to do with them. And he told me his friends would get hurt.
9:50And I said, not taking my name off the discharge petition. Thank you.
10:01Ben Meiselas:And then Marjorie Taylor Greene in the speech says, look, I'm not just like any MAGA person. She goes, I was like the lead MAGA general. She goes, I'd be the person who would go around with Donald Trump talking about all of these policies. I was the person. Here, play this clip. When you talk about someone that fought on the front lines of MAGA, I wasn't just a fighter. I was a general. I was. I spoke all over the country for President Trump. I stood on rally stage after rally stage. As a matter of fact, I spoke at Lindsey Graham's home county. I spoke just before Lindsey Graham. Then she talks about how there's this whole industry that developed around Donald Trump, this MAGA cottage industry of grifters who follow Trump around and sell the Trump Bibles and the Trump shirts.
10:54Ben Meiselas:And then she goes, you know who killed though all of that? Donald Trump. He's the one who killed it. Here, play this clip. Make America Great Again was such a dream for so many Americans. And it was sold for years and years. And an industry was created around it, an entire political industry and an economic. It's an entire economy. At rallies, there's companies that sell t-shirts and hats. These little businesses, these small business owners follow Donald Trump all over the country and sell their goods to all the MAGA faithful that go to the rallies. There's also companies online that sell all types of Trump gear, MAGA, you name it, coffee mugs, hats, t-shirts, pajamas.
11:40I mean, maybe some of you in this room have some of that stuff. You've probably thrown it out by now if you did, but it was available to buy in every way. There's Trump Bibles or Trump watches. I don't know. There's Trump everything. But think about that. An entire industry created on MAGA, but I watched it die because when you're a member of Congress, we have a unique view that the American people don't have. It's like riding a roller coaster. You know when you ride a roller coaster and if you're in the front car, you are strapped in and you have the front row seat of everything that's coming on the roller coaster ride.
12:19When you're climbing up the hill and you're climbing slowly up the hill, you can see when you're getting to the top. But the people behind you, they can't see it yet. Well, that's how I felt being a member of Congress, being such an integral piece of MAGA being personal friends with the president, personal friends with the administration, and personal friends with all of the people that got us there. So as a member of Congress, I had a front row view of the bills and the president's support of the bills and the policies that actually destroyed MAGA.
13:01Ben Meiselas:And then she goes on and says it again. Trump was the one who destroyed you. Trump killed it. Play this clip. You see, MAGA went from being words, words and promises. But when it came time to put it into real action, the actions is what killed it. And do you want to know who took the actions to kill MAGA? It was the creator and the founder himself, Donald Trump. How did it happen? It started with the backdoor to a central bank digital currency. And then when we campaigned on lowering inflation and reducing gas prices and caring about domestic issues that matter to Americans, the White House front door became a revolving door to foreign leaders, not to Americans and not to industry leaders and those involved in working on the domestic solutions that Americans needed.
13:58No, it became a place of foreign policy. The next thing that happened was bombing Iran. I openly and spoke publicly against it, and that's when strike two happened for me. The president was mad at me. How dare I criticize him? After all, he wants the Nobel Peace Prize, and he wants it by bombing Iran. How can I point out that hypocrisy, Marjorie? No, no, no. Don't criticize the president. Don't be a panicking. Trust Trump, right? Well, I spoke out, but there were others that spoke out. Charlie Kirk spoke out, and he spoke out quite bravely. Tucker Carlson spoke out, and spoke out bravely, and others, a few others, not many of us, but a few.
14:52Well, then the 12-day war was finished and they got to come out and do their victory rounds on Fox News and say how, oh, see, it didn't turn into a forever war. Oh, look, we bombed them and we wiped out their entire nuclear capabilities. We wiped out all their military capabilities. It's over. And that's why Donald Trump should have the Nobel Peace Prize. My goodness, it was so silly. Well, as this was going on, I was watching spending bill and CR and all this disgusting things that happen in the House of Representatives. No real change. In Congress, I would co-sponsor the balanced budget resolution and I would co-sponsor all the conservative bills.
15:33Then magically, guess what? No matter who is Speaker of the House, those bills never come to the floor for a vote. Well, talking about another resolution that got blocked more than any other resolution I've ever seen, it was to release the Epstein files.
15:52Ben Meiselas:And then she talked about how because Donald Trump said that she was disloyal to him, even though she said, I think I'm being loyal to the country and I'm being loyal to victims of child rape, victims of a child sex trafficking ring. But because me being loyal and protecting people who are victims of child rape, that now makes me not loyal to you. So therefore, I'm a traitor. And then Donald Trump would call her Marjorie Traitor, Marjorie Traitor. And then she would get all of these death threats and her kids would get these death threats. Then she said, so I went to Donald and I said, hey, can you tone it down?
16:34Ben Meiselas:My son's getting death threats. And she goes, Donald Trump told me, yeah, I know. He deserves it. He deserves it. So folks, if there are any Republicans, libertarians, people who are not interested in politics at all, I know there's a lot of you who watch this network. And of course, we have a big progressive audience as well and a big liberal audience. But we have lots of people because this network isn't about politics. It's really about people, about fighting for the people first and foremost. That's where we center our network and our movement above everything else. And so you can hear it from the words.
17:12Ben Meiselas:If you're like, well, Ben, hear it from the words of Marjorie Taylor Greene, the lead MAGA general. Here, play this clip. I got a truth social dropped on my head like a nuclear bomb where the president called me a traitor. And I read that and I thought, a traitor? Oh, my gosh. I looked up the definition of traitor. I looked it up. I was like, I have to wrap my head around this. And so a traitor is a traitor to the United States of America. And I swore an oath to defend our constitution. And I really thought about it. I said, he's not talking about what we think of the definition of traitor. He's saying I was a traitor to him, to him.
17:59And that's why I was a traitor to him, and that's why he was going to support a primary against me, just like he's doing to Thomas Massey, which is horrific. And I looked at that, and I thought to myself, this is a badge of honor. It truly is. And I thought, I can't, this is so unbelievable to me. But here's what happened after that. Not a single Republican defended me. Not one that I served with. By the way, I had paid all my dues to the NRCC, every Congress, and supported all of them, and endorsed many of them, and donated money to them, and helped them get re-elected. And I had spent millions of my own dollars campaigning all over the country for President Trump.
18:46Think about that. But I was a traitor doing what we promised to do. I was the traitor. But no one defended me, not one person. And I said, oh, my goodness, how can I continue to serve under this president and serve in a body of Congress where not a single person is willing to say, Mr. President, Marjorie's not a traitor. She helped you get elected. But then guess what happened? I started getting death threats. And it was about me being called a traitor. It was, you're a traitor. You deserve to die. You're a traitor. We're going to kill you. You're a traitor. But it was the one that came in and they kept coming on my son, my youngest, my baby boy.
19:31We're going to snuff out his life. We're going to put a bullet in his head. Marjorie Trader Green. So I sent those to the president, texted him directly. I also sent them to Susie Wiles and James Blair. and I also sent them to the Vice President, J.D. Vance, Kash Patel. I sent them to all these people. I got no response from Susie Wiles. None. And she's a mother and a grandmother and a woman. I got no response from James Blair because he only cares about making money on campaigns. I did hear from Kash Patel. He said on it, but I haven't heard from him since. I don't know what he's on.
20:27J.D. Vance was very nice to me, compassionate and kind, and reassured me that he would do everything we could to find out what's going on. And then I heard back from Donald Trump. And I've saved these text messages. I'd probably get put in jail if I released them publicly, but I saved him. Where Donald Trump proceeded to tell me that it was my fault and that I deserve it. If my son gets killed, I deserve it because I was a traitor to him. That is our president of the United States. That's the man that says MAGA is whatever he wants it to be. Wow.
21:10Ben Meiselas:And as I mentioned at the outset of the video, some of those Marjorie Taylor Greene posts where she calls out people being brainwashed by a MAGA cult. Here's what she writes. She goes, facts don't care about your feelings. Open your eyes and leave the cult. And then she shows, here are the ways you know you're stuck in a MAGA cult. And then she reposted this from another very far right wing aligned account, the zero hedge account. Exiled MAGA dissidents consult with Ron Paul on the Iran war. In other words, you have all of these former MAGA people. They're really growing their own anti-MAGA movement right now.
21:55And it's happening in Texas.
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