OMG! Trump Lets It Slip at Final WH Presser on Shutdown!!

1 Oct 2025 · 21 min · 5 chapters

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Episode topic: A commentary on Donald Trump’s final White House press remarks as a government shutdown nears, arguing he celebrates the shutdown, dodges questions about layoffs and legality, and makes claims about immigration, health care, and the economy that the host says are misleading or authoritarian.

Guest backgrounds

No guests are clearly identified in the transcript. The episode includes quoted/played interview clips from public figures: Don Beyer (Democratic congressmember), Brooke Rollins (Agriculture Secretary), and Howard Lutnick (Commerce Secretary). It also references Pete Hegseth (military policy comments).

Key claims

Shutdowns are portrayed as harmful; Trump is said to be rooting for it and threatening to cut programs/people, while avoiding answers on health-care subsidies for undocumented immigrants and on “$17 trillion” figures.

Notable examples

Trump’s “a lot of good can come down from shutdowns” line; questions about DOGE layoffs; “bigger heart than you” response on health care; “blue tent” removal; Linda McMahon education push; farmers’ economic uncertainty amid China tariffs; Lutnick denying reports of 80,000 manufacturing job losses.

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Trump on Government Shutdown

0:47 to 2:40

Discussion on Trump's comments regarding the government shutdown and layoffs.

“So a reporter asked Donald Trump, but if you said Doge has been getting rid of all of the waste, fraud, and abuse.”

Trump's Absurd Claims

2:40 to 5:10

Analyzing Trump's bizarre statements during the press conference.

“So the last thing we want to do is shut it down.”

Critique of Trump's Economy

8:06 to 12:20

Discussion on Trump's economic statements and their implications.

“Say goodbye to sweat stains and hello to long lasting freshness.”

Manufacturing Jobs Debate

12:20 to 14:00

Examination of the claims around manufacturing job losses under Trump.

“Farmers are getting a little angry, a little antsy here.”

Trump's Manufacturing Claims and Military Standards

14:00 to 16:58

The hosts discuss contradictions in Trump's claims about manufacturing jobs and military grooming standards.

“The president has committed to supporting our farmers.”
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0:00And we're live on Match Day as Doug reaches for a Buffalo wing.

0:04Ben Meiselas:He's got it. Oh, and he's gone for a can of Pepsi, too. What a finish. There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better. Match Days deserve Pepsi. I wrote a little song to remind you. Choice Hotels gets you more of the experiences you value. The Cambria Hotel's got it all. A rooftop bar, have a ball. Bring a date, your squad, or even your mom. Book direct at choiceovertails.com. Yikes, Donald Trump was massively fumbling the questions he was being asked about the government shutdown, which he appears to be giddy about and rooting for and saying a lot of good things can come out of this shutdown.

0:43Ben Meiselas:We can fire everybody and we can have our way with the American people. It's really despicable. So a reporter asked Donald Trump, but if you said Doge has been getting rid of all of the waste, fraud, and abuse. Why are you going to use the shutdown as a way to lay off people? Why are you going to use it as a pretext to fire hundreds of thousands of people in the government? Again, Donald Trump just gives a absurd word salad response. Watch this. Here, play this clip. I'm just kidding, President, as we inch closer to the government shutdown this morning, you said you might do a lot of layoffs. If Doge is already reducing the federal workforce?

1:23Ben Meiselas:Why is it necessary to link more federal jobs cut to a shutdown? Well, the Democrats want to shut it down. So when you shut it down, you have to do layoffs. So we'd be laying off a lot of people that are going to be very affected. And the Democrats, they're going to be Democrats. As you know, we, this country, no country can afford to pay for illegal immigration, health care for everybody that comes into the country. That's what they're insisting. and obviously have an obligation to not accept that. That would affect everybody. You know, when I see what we're doing with AI and all the plants that are opening up in the country, $17 trillion is coming.

1:58And if you compare that to Biden, Biden had in four years less than a trillion. We have 17 trillion, more than that. I think it's going to be much more than that, David. By the end of this year, I think it's going to be far over. It's a record. It's already a record in eight months.

2:14Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump brags that a lot of good can come from the shutdown. And he says, what we'll be able to do is kind of go after Democrats. We'll be able to go, you know, see, you heard him say that before. We'll go after the Democrats in the shutdown and make Democrats feel pain, especially those Democrat employees. Here play this clip. I think it's going to be far over. That's a record. It's already a record in eight months. It's a record by a lot. And so we're doing well as a country. So the last thing we want to do is shut it down. But a lot of good can come down from shutdowns. We can get rid of a lot of things that we didn't want.

2:50And they'd be Democrat things, but they want open borders. They want men playing in women's sports. They want transgender for everybody. They never stop. And they don't learn. We won an election in a landslide. They just don't learn. So we have no choice. I have to do that for the country.

3:05Ben Meiselas:Yes. As Democratic Congress member Don Beyer writes, as he did during his first term, Trump again goes on TV to say government shutdowns are good. No, they are not good. Republicans and this president should go back to work and make a deal to stop a shutdown and prevent price increases for the American people. He's actually rooting for the shutdown. And then Donald Trump is starts talking about some blue tent that was outside of the White House, like that they removed a blue tent. Like that's what's on your mind right now as the government is just a mere hours away from shutting down? You're talking about a blue tent that you removed?

3:46Ben Meiselas:What the hell is going on here? Here, play this clip. We've had a home run in DC. You can walk out. Brian, you got mugged here a long time ago. Yes, sir. And the mugger must have felt some pain because you're a tough cookie. Well, he had a gun. I know, well then. If he had a gun, what you can do is say thank you very much. Yeah, no, but it's, everybody here, I mean, you were here in the room when I said to the reporters, who got mugged in the last year? And like half of the people raised their hand. Now if you said, who got mugged over the last 60 days? Nobody. Nobody. No killing. No nothing. And the restaurants are booming.

4:27The town is booming. It's clean. You know, the National Guard actually went out and started cleaning all the crap out of the parks. The tents are knocked down. We had one that you said it was a blue tent and you said it was a communist tent right see we're gonna have a communist mayor of new york so you know let's see how that works out and i've gotten a lot of feedback on that everyone's very appreciative yeah you told me about a blue tent and i said it's not i can't be there because we knocked him down but this was a very highly sophisticated group of people that had permits and all the other things well their permit expired we knocked it down it took what 24 hours less maybe so i appreciate you telling me that no we have We have a great thing.

5:07The country is doing incredible. We are a hot country. The hottest. We're the hottest country in the world.

5:12Ben Meiselas:And then Donald Trump also brags that Linda McMahon, the W-W, the wife of the WWE founder, that she's making sure that she goes after education in democratic states. We're taking it over from California. We're going to help them out. No, stay the hell out, Donald. Stay the hell out. Here, play this clip. I get 97 % bad press and I won in Atlanta, so I would tell you the press has no credibility. But I will say that what we've done has been a great tribute to the people that's standing behind me in different forms. Linda in education, different, but what she's doing in education, she's sending education back to the states.

5:57That's a big move. The states, you know, you go back to Indiana, Iowa, Well, you know, I would say 40 states will be great. 45 will be, you know, the 5 % of them will be pretty good. And then you're going to have a Gavin Newsom and some other people that aren't going to do a good job. But, you know, we'll help them out. I want to help them out.

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8:27Ben Meiselas:I want to see Democrats ask, if he brought in$17 trillion, where is it? Where's the account? Did you steal$17 trillion? Because it ain't showing up in the treasury. So where the hell is your$17 trillion? And then Donald Trump says that the good thing that they can do during a shutdown is that they'll be able to do things medically to harm people. They will be able to do medical things that harm people. This is a sick authoritarian regime, medically to harm people? You're boasting about killing people and saying that shutdowns are good? Watch for yourself what went down here. Play this clip. Tell you we have 17 trillion dollars being invested.

9:06So the last person that wants to shut down is us now. With that being said, we can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible by them, like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like cutting programs that they like and you know all you all know russell vote he's become very popular recently because he can trim the budget to a level that you couldn't do any other way so they're taking a risk by having a shutdown because because of the shutdown we can do things medically and other ways including benefits we can cut large numbers of people.

9:44We don't want to do that, but we don't want fraud, waste, and abuse. And we're cutting that.

9:51Ben Meiselas:And then you had another reporter, that same reporter from the AP, who asked a great question that you saw there, also said to Donald Trump, but you are aware, Donald, that it would be illegal, unlawful, to have the federal government fund health care for undocumented immigrants. That's not even allowed in the law. So how are you saying that Democrats want to fund$1.5 trillion for undocumented immigrants if it's not in the law, Donald? And then this response to me is almost most telling of all because he just responds with words out. I have a bigger heart than you. Everybody knows my heart is bigger than your heart.

10:34Ben Meiselas:Just watch. Again, this shouldn't be a Democrat or Republican or independent issue. He's not answering the question because this is all a lie. Here, play this clip. Time for that. They're not eligible for the health care subsidies that Democrats are demanding. So can you clarify, what are you talking about when you say Democrats want to protect their health care? So when an illegal person comes in, a person who came into our country illegally, therefore breaking the law. And look, we all have big hearts. I have a bigger heart than you do. They're all breaking the law and they're coming into our country.

11:08and we just as a country cannot afford to take care of millions of people who have broken the law coming in we want them to come into our country but we want them to come in legally now we have a strong border very strong border thanks to christy and tom holman and the whole group they've done an amazing job at the border i mean we had a border that was reckless we had a border that was a disaster they were coming in by the millions i say 25 million people you're saying less, but I say 25 million people came in illegally and no system can take care of the healthcare of all of those people that came in.

11:40Ben Meiselas:So while that was taking place, you have Brooke Rollins, the agriculture secretary, saying that Donald Trump's the most pro-farm president in history, but she goes that the situation with farmers is getting really bad and it's going to get worse. As we wrote on the Midas Touch account, why is the farm economy not in a good place, Brooke? Why is it going bad, Brooke? Didn't Donald Trump promise on day one the farmers were going to get rich and it was going to be a golden age? The only person who's gotten rich is Donald Trump. Make billions of dollars more and he's screwing over farmers, screwing over workers, screwing over the American people.

12:19Ben Meiselas:That's what's going down. Here, play this clip. Farmers are getting a little angry, a little antsy here. It's pretty clear they support the administration. They understand what's going on, but they're sort of caught in the middle. China is specifically trying to hurt them in this tariff war. So what should they expect from the White House? Well, thanks so much for having me on, Charles. And I loved your introduction. I think it told the story perfectly. For so long, this country has been basically built on the backs of our farmers and our ranchers. The president, President Trump, has been the most pro-farmer president, perhaps in our lifetimes, perhaps in history.

12:53Ben Meiselas:But this moment of uncertainty in the farm economy is real. And there are many reasons for that. Obviously, the ongoing trade negotiations with China and others, but it goes way before that. Under Joe Biden, the cost of inputs went up 30 percent. No new trade deals, which you showed in that chart, which was actually a great chart. It's pretty remarkable that in four years under Joe Biden, there was not one new trade deal. And we went from an ag trade surplus under Trump one to a 50 billion dollar ag deficit under Joe Biden. And we're now just beginning to crawl our way back out of that. But the times are changing.

13:28Ben Meiselas:Listen, it is a golden age. It's around the corner. But this president on Liberation Day at the White House, when we were all watching, when he announced this new tariff and trade world realignment, that it was going to take a little bit of time. But in that time, we've already struck seven or eight deals. Japan, the UK, the EU, Indonesia, the Philippines. I mean, it is I was in the UK two weeks ago selling ethanol, supposed to be in Japan tomorrow, talking rice and other row crops. We'll see what the government shut down if that happens. But it is going to be gangbusters. But right now, the farm economy is not in a good place.

14:02Ben Meiselas:We're working around the clock. The president has committed to supporting our farmers. And we'll have an announcement on that very soon, likely next week. Okay. Then again, while that was taking place as well, you had Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, giving an interview with News Nation. And Howard Lutnick is asked, well, if you claim there's a manufacturing boom right now, why have we lost 80 ,000 manufacturing jobs? And he goes, oh, that's not true. Donald Trump's just so great. Here, watch this. So you've already alluded to the national security interest in a lot of the reshoring of manufacturing that the president's tariff regime is designed to do.

14:41Ben Meiselas:But some reports suggest that we've lost up to 80 ,000 manufacturing jobs since the president took office. Walk me through that tension there, that contradiction. Well, it can't be true. I mean, sure, the first day, you walk in from the Biden administration and what happens on the next Friday, you know, they blame Donald Trump, which is silly, right? The tariff world is going to bring in the greatest building of advanced manufacturing. It's not the country's ever seen. It's not even possible to scale. And then finally, you had Pete Hegseth lecturing the military generals about no no more beards or long hair.

15:28Ben Meiselas:We're not having Nordic pagans in the military. Nordic pagans? What are you all talking about? Here, play this clip. This also means grooming standards. No more beards, long hair, superficial individual expression. We're going to cut our hair, shave our beards and adhere to standards. Because it's like the broken windows theory of policing. It's like when you let the small stuff go, the big stuff eventually goes. So you have to address the small stuff. This is on duty, in the field, and in the rear. If you want a beard, you can join special forces. If not, then shave. We don't have a military full of Nordic pagans.

16:10Ben Meiselas:But unfortunately, we have had leaders who either refused to call BS and enforce standards, or leaders who felt like they were not allowed to enforce standards. Both are unacceptable. And that's why today at My Direction, the era of unprofessional appearance is over. No more beardos. The era of rampant and ridiculous shaving profiles is done. Simply put, if you do not meet the male level physical standards for combat positions, cannot pass a PT test or don't want to shave and look professional, it's time for a new position or a new profession. So no wonder Donald Trump's approval is deeply underwater in the swing states.

16:52Ben Meiselas:And no wonder Donald Trump's approval rating is in the tank in general. And no wonder by about a 15 point margin on average and all the major polling, Americans are blaming Republicans and Donald Trump for this shutdown because they're giddy about it. They're giddy. You see them giddy. Hit subscribe. Let's get to six million. Thanks for watching.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s final presser on the government shutdown where he revealed that he is actually celebrating a shutdown.

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