Panicked Republicans Freeze as Dems Finally Go on Offense

13 Jul 2025 · 20 min · 7 chapters

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In short

The episode argues Democrats are “going on offense” against Republicans over the alleged Jeffrey Epstein client list and related cover-up claims, and links this to broader claims of GOP incompetence and blocked disaster-preparedness legislation in Texas.

Guests (named)

No podcast guests are clearly identified as regular interviewees. The host says he interviewed Democratic Rep. Adam Moskowitz (Epstein-list discussion). Other quoted speakers are Democratic Reps. Jamie Raskin, Jimmy Gomez, and Gene Wu (Texas), plus Democratic Rep. Torres; and GOP figures Jim Jordan, Anna Paulina Luna, Tim Burchett, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, and Pam Bondi.

Key claims

The Epstein list was promised but not released; officials allegedly lied (e.g., Pam Bondi saying it was “on her desk”); White House frustration is growing; GOP blocks flood-preparedness bills despite repeated extreme storms.

Notable examples

Raskin calling for hearings/subpoenas; Moskowitz saying there’s “no list”; references to missing tape; Texas flash-flood legislation killed by Republicans; Abbott calling questioning parents “losers.”

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Democrats Go on the Offensive

2:59 to 10:53

Discussion on Democrats becoming aggressive against Republican strategies.

“You weren't expecting Democrats to get aggressive and to go on the offense.”

Democrats Go on the Offensive

11:00 to 11:13

Discussion on Democrats becoming aggressive against Republican strategies.

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Texas Flood Management Issues

11:20 to 14:02

Discussion on Texas flood management and the political response to disasters.

“hot tip also to the Democratic minority leader in Texas.”

Governor's Response to Tragedy

14:02 to 15:18

Discussing the painful reaction of families to a tragedy and government negligence.

“What was your reaction when you heard that?”

MAGA Republicans' Legislative Failures

15:18 to 16:40

Examining the inaction of MAGA Republicans in addressing legislative issues.

“And then when tragedy strikes, they're like, ah, you can't talk about it no more.”

Congressional Silence on Epstein

16:40 to 18:34

Highlighting the shift in stance of Congress members regarding the Epstein case.

“That's what you ran against was everything that he did.”

Laura Ingraham's Conference Reception

18:34 to 19:10

Analyzing the audience's reaction to Laura Ingraham at a MAGA conference.

“Look how she was greeted at the MAGA conference.”
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2:58Ben Meiselas:Oh, Maga Mike and Jim Jordan, you weren't expecting this. You weren't expecting Democrats to get aggressive and to go on the offense. Well, that's what we're seeing. You just thought you were going to pass your disastrous budget bill and what? Just hang out in Mar-a-Lago and party. Not the way it's going to go down. Americans hate y 'all. And finally, Democrats are channeling that hatred and calling you idiots out. Let me first show you Democratic Congress member Jamie Raskin here. Raskin says, let's talk about the Epstein list. Why would Trump not release it at this point? Maga Mike, huh? Real me that Maga Mike here.

3:42Ben Meiselas:Play this clip. Look, why would Trump not want to release it at this point when he's been demanding an open, complete, comprehensive accounting and release. Either one, he's implicated and they don't want to doctor the tapes or at least doctor them any further because there is that mysterious one minute missing of the tape in the prison. But so either he's implicated or there are other high ranking Republicans he's covering up for, or there are people on there that he wants to use this as leverage against, which we know is also a big, you know, M.O. for Donald Trump. He would like to have the coercive leverage of possessing this arsenal of information around them.

4:25Ben Meiselas:And so then Jamie Raskin says, we want hearings on this. I'll ask Jim Jordan of the Judiciary Committee or MAGA Mike or whoever. Let's have a hearing. Let's subpoena Kash Patel and Dan Bongino. Let's bring him right here and let's talk Epstein. Here play this clip. It'd be much better for everybody to come clean and And let's vindicate the public interest here. I'm going to be asking Chairman Jordan to call for a hearing where we subpoena the Attorney General and Dan Bongino and Kash Patel to come in and tell us everything that we know. Because this thing is really spinning out of control at this point.

5:02And there's one way to put it to rest, which is to come clean as President Trump promised he would during the campaign.

5:08Ben Meiselas:And did you notice that the White House just they're playing defense finally for once? This is what you got to do, Dems. You got to be aggressive like this. So the White House then shows this photo of Democratic Congress member Jimmy Gomez, like an AI version of him. They go, ICE raids marijuana farms filled with illegal aliens. They're just strawberry pickers. And then you know what Congress member Gomez does? Boom. He goes, here's a photo of you and Jeffrey Epstein. You're covering up for Epstein. You're covering up the Epstein files because you're likely all over them, Donald Trump. At White House, if you're now concerned about child exploitation, release the Epstein files.

5:46Ben Meiselas:Your base wants to know. And by the way, as I said before, folks, Epstein used Mar-a-Lago as one of the main places that he got the girls who he sex trafficked. It's out there. It's already in the files that are out there. How do you think Epstein found Virginia Giuffre? She was an underage girl. She was homeless. She got a job at Mar-a-Lago. Ghislaine Maxwell, who would do the sex trafficking for Epstein, went to Mar-a-Lago, found Jufre, brought her to Epstein, and then the rest is history. That's what went down at Mar-a-Lago. And then Donald Trump said Epstein's a great guy. He likes girls on the younger side.

6:23Ben Meiselas:Donald Trump was all over Epstein's flight log. Donald Trump's all over the depositions on the things that are already released. All right. And then I had the opportunity to interview Congress member Moskowitz. And here's what he told me here. Play this clip. I mean, I'm sure we're moments away from her coming out and saying, who's Jeffrey Epstein? Never existed. Never was a guy. I mean, look, you don't don't listen to me. Go look at what's going on on the right. I mean, MAGA is losing their shit over this. OK, it's on my desk. The list is on my desk. It's imminent. It's coming. Boom. No list.

6:56I mean, they got I mean, Jelaine is in, Maxwell's in prison, okay, because of Jeffrey Epstein, because of the list, okay? There's, you know, a thousand victims, but there's no list. I mean, look, this is unfortunately one more of the lies. This one, the attorney general is caught up in, but this is one more of the lies that people were sold during the election, okay? But it was one of those lies that the right MAGA really wanted the information on. And I will tell you that you can extrapolate the lie here to other things we were told that are also not true and not going to be true into the future.

7:38So yeah, I mean, did you get one of those white binders, Ben? The list wasn't in there. Remember the whole white binder thing?

7:46Ben Meiselas:I stopped getting the invites to the White House a little bit ago. So they don't really want us there. I'll make you a white binder. I have bad news. There won't be anything in it because apparently there's no list. I mean, maybe she has no desk. Maybe when she said like, it's on my desk and we're like, okay, maybe it turns out there's no desk. I mean, who knows what's going on over there? And by the way, you can see that these MAGA Republicans are feeling heat. And by the way, the reporting from CNN and Caitlin Collins, who's got contacts inside the White House. She goes, the White House is getting very frustrated about what's taken place.

8:22Ben Meiselas:Here play this clip. Officials inside the White House are very frustrated because they feel like this news cycle is only getting worse for them. It is not from people that they can easily dismiss or say it's the media or Democrats. It is their own base that is so furious and so angry over how they've handled this. And the question is how they get out of it. And it could result in the departure of the deputy FBI director over this. Now, here's Democratic Congress member Torres. Here's what he had to say. He goes, a wise person once said, when a clown enters the palace, the clown does not become a king.

8:53Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. You know, a wise person once said, when a clown enters the palace, the clown does not become a king. The palace becomes a circus. And so we're seeing a confirmation that the Trump presidency is nothing more than a glorified circus, staffed not by actual government professionals, but by clowns, by television personalities. and Donald Trump and his acolytes have spent their political career fanning the flames of conspiratorial politics and now it's coming back to haunt them. You know, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino falsely accused the Biden administration of quote-unquote a cover-up of the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy.

9:28But for me, the worst offender is Pam Bondi, who as attorney general said that the Epstein client list was on her desk waiting for review and that turned out to be a lie. and so the Trump administration has no one and nothing to blame but itself for fanning the flames of conspiratorial politics. I can't even begin to imagine all of the money that I've spent on skincare and beauty products over the years to battle issues like acne and damaged hair and eczema, change in hair color, rashes, etc. But I recently realized that I was completely overlooking the most fundamental step, the water I shower in.

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11:18Ben Meiselas:Get yours now. And by the way, I got to give a hot tip also to the Democratic minority leader in Texas. Do you all know this guy? Because he's a superstar out there in Texas and he deserves more attention. You have a representative Wu. And here's what he has to say. He's like, I know that Governor Abbott and Trump, they want to keep saying it's a once in 500 year storm. It's a once in 1000 year storm. OK, well, those shouldn't be happening every six months or every year. Then it doesn't make it a once in 500. Here, play this clip. The New York Times reported this year the Texas legislature funded only a very small portion of this backlog of flood management projects totaling some$54 billion.

12:04$54 billion because as you note these floods are not new. This is the worst of them but the idea of flooding in this area and other parts of Texas is a constant constant threat to lives. So this$54 billion went largely unfunded, but the legislature did pass$51 billion of property tax cuts. What was your take on that? So this was one of the things that we've been railing against. Democrats in this House, whether this session or previous session, continuously offer bills to help prepare for disasters. Rep. Martinez had a bill this time that would help us locate victims faster. Rep. Anchia had a bill to say, let's have preparedness studies for these extreme storms.

12:52Rep. Reynolds had a bill to say, let's push money into damaged communities faster. Every single one of these bills and a dozen other bills were all killed by Republicans and for no reason at all. Every single time Democrats try to bring up that it's not just 100 year storms. It's the 200-year storms. It's the 500-year storms that keep hitting every single year. And we're saying there's something wrong with that. You're not supposed to have 500-year events every single year. And every time Democrats offer up legislation, amendments to say, let's do something about this, let's save lives, let's prepare, it's uniformly rejected on party lines by Republicans.

13:38Ben Meiselas:Here's another clip right here of Democrat Texas House Minority Leader Gene Wu. And he says, look, he says the fact that the Trump regime keeps calling people who are asking for accountability losers. He goes, I can't even imagine the pain that must cause. Here play this clip. At the same news conference, Governor Abbott called questions about blame. The quote word choice of losers. What was your reaction when you heard that? Well, I mean, this is even as a parent is watching this from the outside, like I it's painful to watch this. And I can not imagine what it's like for those families who are going through this.

14:22And I know it's early. I know it's still time to grieve. It's time to to to bury our loved ones. But to tell parents who are asking tough questions, why did this happen? This was known as Flash Flood Alley. There's been numerous flash floods here. Other campers have died before. They knew that this was a problem. This local area had asked for warning systems for eight years from the state. I know there is a future time to have questions answered. But to call parents who are asking these tough questions losers, it just compounds the pain that the governor is causing.

15:01Ben Meiselas:But it's not a both sides issue. Did you hear what he said? Right. Representative Wu, minority leader Wu is he's just like, look, we keep entering legislation that tries to solve these problems year after year after year. We know the problem and the MAGA Republicans block it. And then when tragedy strikes, they're like, ah, you can't talk about it no more. Everybody just needs to pray. Just pray. We did a great job. Pray, everybody. We need prayers. No, just do your job in government or then just don't be in government, MAGA Republicans. I mean, what the hell are you doing? Speaking of what the hell are you doing?

15:36Ben Meiselas:Everybody remember MAGA Republican Congresswoman, Anna Paulina Luna, right? She was the one who led the Epstein committee. Remember the subcommittee and she was going to get to the bottom of it. This was her big issue. Well, now that Donald Trump is saying that there's no Epstein list and Trump is covering it up, Anna Paulina has now changed her tune. She goes, I don't think Trump's on the list. Here, play this clip. We'll continue to push for that release call forth, but it's been deafening how many members of Congress have been silent on this. And to be clear, also, I want to clear something up.

16:06I do not think, and I've told this to multiple media outlets because I've been getting questions on this, is Trump on the Epstein client list? No. And I'm very positive of that because if he was, they would have released it during the election cycle. But what I do know and what I'm seeing right now across every aspect, whether it's rich, poor, famous, not famous people have actual concerns. Are people basically paying off, paying off people to be quiet? And that's not okay.

16:34Ben Meiselas:Don't again, this is what, this is why you got to get aggressive because they look weak. Here's MAGA Republican Congress member, Tim Burchett. Here's what he's got to say. Here, play it. That's what you ran against was everything that he did. And so if he did the exact opposite, I mean, it just doesn't figure. Yeah. Everybody's upset about this X-team thing. I'm sure Trump is too, but I don't think Trump's on that list because I think if he was, if there is in fact a list, but you know, I've studied criminal and criminal behavior for a very long time and they rarely keep a list of, of the criminals that they do business with.

17:08Um, but I suspect what, what you'll find eventually is going to be those, those flight logs and the flight logs don't show anything other than people flew with him.

17:17Ben Meiselas:And here's Burchett again. Let's play it. Congressman Britchett, can I ask you, because you defended Dan Bongino, you said he's a friend of yours, and you talked about his time in the Secret Service. The deputy director of the FBI is an incredibly serious job, and they do a lot of the work running that department, as we've spoken to past FBI, deputy FBI directors about this. Is it okay with you if he just doesn't go to work because he and Pam Bondi are in a fight about the Epstein files? I can remember during the Biden administration, you had the man who was over our military didn't show up. Yeah, but this is about right now what's happening with the president you voted for.

17:52And I don't remember CNN raising a ruckus or the Democrats. Oh, we did cover Secretary Alston's hospitalization. He's never away from his phone. He's never away from his computer. And just because he's not in the office does not mean he's working. Honestly, I do more work when I'm out of Washington, D.C. than I do when I'm in Washington, D.C. and I don't see any real correlation that it's symbolic at best, but it just shows his frustration. I think the frustration the rest of the country right now.

18:23Ben Meiselas:Weak, right? I mean, truly, truly weak. You know, and then I'll just share with you here, this was on Friday when Laura Ingraham was in Tampa before the Turning Points USA MAGA conference. Look how she was greeted at the MAGA conference. Watch this. How many of you are satisfied you can clap? satisfied with the results of the Epstein investigation? Clap.

18:51Okay, I told you to clap. You guys aren't listening. I'm not going to grade you on a curve. So I was going to get to that. How many of you are not satisfied with the results of the investigation?

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