In short
White House press conference where Caroline Leavitt defends a Sept. 2 U.S. strike off Venezuela, including a follow-up strike, arguing it was lawful under the law of armed conflict despite claims of survivors and “war crimes.” She also attacks media “fake news,” defends Trump’s MRI release, discusses refugee/asylum policy, and justifies Trump’s pardons/commutations.
Guests
Caroline Leavitt (White House spokesperson/Trump’s chief propagandist). Other “guests” are reporters asking questions; no other named interview guests appear.
Key claims
Hegseth authorized the Sept. 2 strike; Admiral Bradley ordered the second strike and acted within authority; the strikes were in international waters and self-defense. Leavitt claims Trump’s MRI was “perfectly normal” (cardiovascular and abdominal). She calls a DO-osteopath note “BS” and says NYT claims about Biden’s fitness are false.
Notable examples
Juan Orlando Hernandez pardon (drug trafficker convicted in U.S.); Trump commuted David Gentile’s sentence (private equity fraud case); allegations about “firing on survivors” per Navy manual; refugee admissions “essentially at zero” except Afrikaners.
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Chapters
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0:35 to 1:00
Discussion on the White House's admission of war crimes and the related press conference.
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White House Press Conference on War Crimes
1:31 to 2:13
Discussion on the White House's admission of war crimes and the related press conference.
“Oh, and he's gone for a can of Pepsi, too.”
White House Press Conference on War Crimes
2:16 to 7:58
Discussion on the White House's admission of war crimes and the related press conference.
“admitting to war crimes off the coast of Venezuela, throwing its admirals and SEAL Team Six under the bus to try to protect Pete Hegseth.”
Discussion on Trump's MRI and Health
7:58 to 12:25
Examination of the details shared about Trump's health and MRI results.
“Following up on Gabe's question, you said that the follow up strike was lawful.”
Caroline Levitt's Defense Against Fake News
13:18 to 14:00
Caroline Levitt addresses accusations of fake news and critiques Biden's leadership.
“There's just so much fake news being pumped out of this building on a daily basis.”
Defending Biden Against Fake News
14:00 to 15:26
Learn how Biden's accessibility is contrasted with media narratives questioning his fitness for office.
“now who clearly is unfit, who's clearly cognitively declining.”
Critique of Immigration Policies
15:26 to 16:44
Explore criticisms of past American presidents' immigration policies and their consequences.
“self-destructive immigration policies that allowed foreigners who outright hate our country and have no interest in assimilating into our culture.”
Questioning Military Strikes Legality
16:44 to 20:09
Examine the legality of military strikes and the implications of related government actions.
“Let's talk about that second strike again, the war crime for a second.”
The Dynamics of Political Commutations
20:09 to 20:52
Understand the reasoning behind recent presidential commutations and their political context.
“So say that these people were just brought in.”
Republicans Resigning: Implications
20:52 to 21:56
Discuss the potential implications of Republican resignations on party dynamics and leadership.
“Caroline Leavitt is then asked this question about Republicans resigning en masse.”
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Republicans Resigning: Implications
23:25 to 24:15
Discuss the potential implications of Republican resignations on party dynamics and leadership.
“The chairs are held together by optimism.”
Transcript
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2:41Ben Meiselas:Watch what Caroline Levitt says. Here, play this clip. Does the administration deny that that second strike happened or did it happen and the administration denies that Secretary Hegseth gave the order? The latter is true, Abe, and I have a statement to read for you here. President Trump and Secretary Hegseth have made it clear that presidentially designated narco-terrorist groups are subject to lethal targeting in accordance with the laws of war. With respect to the strikes in question on September 2nd, Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes. Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law, directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated.
3:26Ben Meiselas:So she's admitting that the war crime took place. She's just blaming the admiral in charge, as well as SEAL Team 6 for carrying out the order. Another reporter follows up and says, so are you saying that it was Admiral Bradley who was the only one who gave the order, not Hegseth and not Trump. Watch as they throw this Admiral and seal Team Six under the bus again for the war crimes. Here play this clip. So that's why you've seen a drastic difference in this administration's policy with respect to the last. And it's one of the many reasons the American public reelected this president and support this secretary of war in conducting these strikes.
4:03Ben Meiselas:To clarify, Admiral Bradley was the one who gave that order for a second strike. And he was well within his authority to do so. And a separate question. The president several days ago said it was his intention. And another reporter asks again, so did Admiral Bradley order it? Was that what happened? That second strike that killed the survivors? By the way, my own view, this whole thing was unlawful. But did Admiral Bradley, he was the one who made the order for the second strike? Here, play this clip. I was going to get a great moment at yours. Thank you, Caroline. So just to be clear, to clarify on Jackie and Gabe, did Admiral Bradley order that second strike because there were still survivors after the initial strike?
4:46Again, as I read for you, Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority in the law. He directed the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat of narco-terrorists to the United States was completely eliminated. So was the initial order from Secretary Hague said, everyone be killed? And did that come from President Trump? I saw that quoted in a Washington Post story. I would reject that the secretary of war ever said that. However, the president has made it quite clear that if narco terrorists, again, are trafficking illegal drugs towards the United States, he has the authority to kill them.
5:21And that's what this administration is doing.
5:23Ben Meiselas:And then Caroline Levitt talks about Trump's MRI, and she produces some fabricated report by an osteopath, by a DO, not actually the MRI report itself. One of these other like doctor notes, again, not from someone who can actually review and analyze the MRIs. And she says, she like reads this thing and she's like, well, it wasn't an MRI of the brain. It was an MRI of the abdomen and it was part of general preventative care. That's not the way MRIs are done. They're not done of general preventative care. And if it was just done then of the abdomen and not other areas, well, then that raises more serious questions here.
6:04Ben Meiselas:Play this clip. Danny from the MRI, because President Trump yesterday said that he would release the results of his MRI. Is that happening right now? It is happening right now. As part of, and this is a summary from the president's physician and we will release it right now. I think my team has it teed up for all of you. I'll read it for you and then you'll get it physically as well. As part of President Trump's comprehensive executive physical, advanced imaging was performed because men in his age group benefit from a thorough evaluation of cardiovascular and abdominal health. The purpose of this imaging is preventative, to identify any issues early, confirm overall health, and ensure the president maintains long-term vitality and function.
6:48President Trump's cardiovascular imaging was perfectly normal. No evidence of arterial narrowing impairing blood flow or abnormalities in the heart or major vessels. The heart chambers are normal in size, the vessel walls appear smooth and healthy, and there are no signs of inflammation or clotting. Overall, his cardiovascular system shows excellent health. His abdominal imaging is also perfectly normal. All major organs appear very healthy and well profused. Everything evaluated is functioning within normal limits with no acute or chronic concerns. In summary, this level of detailed assessment is standard for an executive physical at President Trump's age and confirms that he remains in excellent overall health.
7:32Again, we will provide that to you. I think that's quite a bit of detail. And in the effort of transparency, the president promised it last night and we have delivered today. So there you go. Danny.
7:40Ben Meiselas:I'll do a whole other video on the note from the osteopath, but you see it right here. Just note that it's entirely BS. Then a reporter says, you know, by the way, a Fox reporter then says, let's just get back to the war crimes here. So you said that the follow up strike was lawful. What law allows you to do this to people who survive the first strike? Here, play this clip. Jack. Thank you, Caroline. Following up on Gabe's question, you said that the follow up strike was lawful. What law is it that allows no survivors? The strike conducted on September 2nd was conducted in self-defense to protect Americans in vital United States interests.
8:22The strike was conducted in international waters and in accordance with the law of armed conflict. On this pardon for the Honduran president.
8:30Ben Meiselas:And then the same Fox reporter says, I also want to ask you this. So you now have Republicans who are defending the strikes on narco terrorists, but then Donald Trump pardons the former leader of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernandez, who is one of the biggest drug traffickers who worked with the Sinaloa cartel and who was convicted in federal court in the United States and sentenced to 45 years along with his brother, who was also a massive drug trafficker. There's testimony out there that Juan Hernandez said, let's get these drugs up the gringo's nose. There was overwhelming evidence. So watch what this Fox reporter asks.
9:10Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. On this pardon for the Honduran president, does it at all undercut the administration's messaging while you have these congressional Republicans defending the strikes on the narco-terrorists and then a pardon for a convicted drug trafficker? Does that make it more difficult for your members to defend your administration's policy? I don't think so, Jackie. I think that President Trump has been quite clear in his defense of the United States homeland to stop these illegal narcotics from coming to our borders, whether that's by land or by sea. And he's also made it quite clear that he wants to correct the wrongs of the weaponized justice department under the previous administration.
9:51And Ouija, I'll call on you because I think we're wearing matching blazers today.
9:55Ben Meiselas:And then another reporter asks Caroline Levitt. So let's stick with this issue. So Donald Trump said if someone sells drugs in the country, if drugs are sold in a country the way drugs were sold in Honduras under Juan Orlando Hernandez, that the president's not responsible for it. But now you're saying that Maduro should be toppled and we should go to war with Maduro while Trump's pardoning a convicted drug trafficker in Honduras. Do you see where this doesn't make sense? Here, play this clip. Question. The president several days ago said it was his intention to pardon the former president of Honduras, who was a convicted drug trafficker.
10:36Ben Meiselas:And yesterday on Air Force One, the president said that if someone sells drugs in that country, that doesn't mean you arrest the president and put him in jail for the rest of his life. How is that different than what the administration is accusing Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro of? You're cherry picking the president's statement a little bit yesterday. As he also said yesterday, the people of Honduras have highlighted to him how the former president, Hernandez, was set up. This was a clear Biden over prosecution. He was the president of this country. He was in the opposition party. He was opposed to the values of the previous administration, and they charged him because he was president of Honduras.
11:14There were some other egregious facts that came out during this trial, and I would encourage you to report on them. His court-appointed lawyer was only given three weeks to prepare for trial. He shared that his conviction was lawfare by the leftist party who, quote, struck a deal with the Biden-Harris administration. Hernandez has highlighted there was virtually no independent evidence presented, and many of his conviction was based on testimony from many admitted criminals who hoped that cooperating would reduce their own penalties. So the president heard the concerns from many people, as he does, and he's, of course, within his constitutional authority to sign clemency for whomever he deems worthy of that.
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13:17Ben Meiselas:Caroline Levitt continues to say, but look, all of your reporting is fake news. There's just so much fake news being pumped out of this building on a daily basis. Here, play this clip. This room who do reach out for comment, who try to get things right. And there are some that remain. But overwhelmingly, the fake news that we see pumped out of this building on a day-to-day basis, it's honestly overwhelming to keep up with it all and to constantly have to defend against these fake news and these attacks. And I will point out. She then starts to like hold up a piece of paper and she's like, let me show you all of the fake news stories that you are doing.
13:53Ben Meiselas:You're saying that Donald Trump isn't fit. Can we talk about former President Biden? Talk about Donald Trump, the person in office right now who clearly is unfit, who's clearly cognitively declining. Here, play this clip. And to constantly have to defend against these fake news and these attacks. And I will point out one fake news story over the weekend before I let you all go from The New York Times that took about one third of the president's daily calendar and his daily schedule and said that he's doing less than he did in his first term or he might not be fit for the job. That is unequivocally false.
14:29And it's deeply unfortunate that this story was written by the same outlet and the same reporter who wrote this. Biden is doing 100 % fine after tripping while boarding Air Force One. Oh, same outlet, same reporter who wrote that President Trump is not fit for the job. Are you kidding me? You all see him almost every single day. He is the most accessible president in history. He is taking meetings around the clock.
14:53Ben Meiselas:And then Caroline Levitt starts to just attack former President Biden. Play this clip. We continue to live with the deadly consequences of Joe Biden's horrific leadership. Nearly 100 ,000 Afghans were recklessly released into the United States with little to no vetting. There was no regard for the disorder and violence that this would unleash on American communities and American culture. And then she attacks former president. She goes, former presidents. They're the reason for all of the self-destruction taking place right now. Here, play this clip. For too long, past American presidents supported self-destruction, self-destructive immigration policies that allowed foreigners who outright hate our country and have no interest in assimilating into our culture.
15:39They've allowed these individuals to flood peaceful American communities.
15:43Ben Meiselas:And she says, and we're shutting down the United States from all refugees. We're taking in zero refugees unless you're white. And from South Africa, white, South African, Afrikaners, the regime has made up that there's a fake genocide taking place against them. The whites can come in, but everybody else can come in. This is what she says, just so you can hear for yourself here, play this clip. Refugee admissions were suspended for Afghans from this administration on day one. And refugee admissions into the country right now are essentially at zero, with the exception of Afrikaners fleeing persecution in South Africa.
16:20The State Department has also heightened their scrutiny and vetting of all visas and have revoked visas, as you know, for those who do not align with our country's national interests. The Secretary of State has the right to do that, and we've taken unprecedented action to do just that. We are also now pausing all asylum adjudications for additional vetting as well. And so -
16:42Ben Meiselas:And then a reporter gets back to the questioning and says, let me, I just, cool, cool. Let's talk about that second strike again, the war crime for a second. So you're saying that the second strike was in full accordance with the law of armed conflict, but the Navy's own manual says that it's murder and a war crime. Can you answer this, Levitt? Here, play this clip. You said that that second strike was in full accordance with the law of armed conflict, but the Navy's own manual of law of war says that specifically firing on survivors from a wrecked vessel is an example of a war crime that's forbidden under U.S.
17:26Ben Meiselas:law and the law of armed conflict. So how was that second strike following law of armed conflict and then second operation? Again, Andrew, I would reiterate to you, the strike was conducted in international waters and in accordance with the law of armed conflict. And since somebody asked about Congress and it's sort of related to Venezuela, I also want to add that Secretary Hegseth spoke with members of Congress who may have expressed some concerns over the weekend. And there have also been 13 bipartisan briefings to Congress on the Venezuelan strikes. And then Caroline Levitt is asked by a reporter, you know, can you please, well, she's asked by the reporter, one, are you going to release the footage so we can see what happened with those survivors off the coast of Venezuela?
18:13Ben Meiselas:And then the reporter says, why did Donald Trump commute the sentence of a private equity executive who served only 12 days out of a seven year sentence, which prosecution said he defrauded$1.6 billion, a convicted felon who defrauded people of$1.6 billion, but he's private equity. So he's Trump's buds. So you just commuted that sentence and took this guy out of prison. That makes sense to you. Watch what Caroline Levitt says. Here, play this clip. Go ahead. Sure. And then in the interest of transparency, does the White House support releasing the Department of Defense's video of those September 2nd strikes on his military votes?
18:56And also separate topic on presidential pardon power. Why did the president commute the sentence of David Gentile recently. He's a private equity executive. He served 12 days out of a seven-year sentence.
19:07Ben Meiselas:The prosecutor said he defrauded$1.6 billion with thousands of victims, including veterans, farmers, teachers. Why was he important? To your first question, that's definitely not a decision for me to make. I would defer you to the Department of War. It's also probably a decision for the president himself to make. As for your second question,
19:30Mr. Gentile, who's the former CEO and co-founder of GBP Capital Holdings. Unlike similar companies, GBP paid regular annualized distributions to its investors. In 2015, GBP disclosed to investors the possibility of using investor capital to pay some of these distributions rather than funding them from current operations. Even though this was disclosed to investors, the Biden Department of Justice claimed it was a Ponzi scheme. This claim was profoundly undercut by the fact that GBP had explicitly told investors what would happen. At trial, the government was unable to tie any supposedly fraudulent representations to Mr.
20:08Gentile. In short, again, this is another example that has been brought to the president's attention of a weaponization of justice from the previous administration, and therefore he signed this commutation.
20:17Ben Meiselas:So say that these people were just brought in. I just read you a very detailed summary of why the commutation was made. Sure. In the middle with the red tie. No, it's just oligarchs helping the oligarchs. It's criminals helping the criminals. I mean, what do you expect when you have a literal felon, when you have a sexual abuser, when you have a fraud in the Oval Office? He's helping his fraud friends. He's helping bad people. Shouldn't even be a Democrat or a Republican or independent things. These are evil people helping evil people. They're bad guys. They're bad people. Like that's what they do.
20:53Ben Meiselas:Caroline Leavitt is then asked this question about Republicans resigning en masse. Here, play this clip. Put the red tie. Thank you, Caroline. Okay, Andrew, go ahead. In wake of Thompson and Marjorie Taylor's early resignation, reports last week indicated that other House Republicans might consider doing the same. Does the president have any concerns in light of those reports about other House Republicans potentially leaving early as well as the other announced retirements that we saw in the last couple of days? Look, I think the president maintains very good relationships with the vast majority, maybe with the exception of one or two.
21:30I think many in this room know who I'm referring to. Very good relationships with members of Capitol Hill within the Republican Party. And the president clearly is the unequivocal leader of the Republican Party. I think it was a recent CNN poll that actually showed that more than 90 percent of Republicans continue to support President Trump as the leader. So he maintains very good relations, as does his entire team here at the White House. And of course, we have a very slim margin in the House, and the president wants that to continue. Andrew, go ahead.
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